JUSTICE FOR SOFIA!!! THE PENGUIN EPISODE 4 REACTION | The Batman • Colin Farrell • Cristin Milioti

[@HeroesReforged]

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[@GoldMegamind]

3:54 sheeesh hector 😂 anything else

[@curtismurphy6206]

Justice for Alberto with thse bad takes too at this point

[@ForeverBrooklynNYC]

24:03 Alberto deserves a LOT more credit for genuinely loving his sister. How exactly is Alberto supposed to get Sofia released from Arkham when the man who framed her to put her there then kept her there - HIS FATHER - is still controlling EVERYONE involved? By Sofia’s own account, Alberto visited her every week (after those 1st 6 months of isolation without visitors). And Sofia got released the same week that Carmine was killed - that is NOT a coincidence.

[@Kevster921]

Yeah, Julian and Alberto worked together to get her out the moment Carmine wasn't there to stop them. They are/were both ride or die for her, but you can only do so much when your opponent controls the mayor, the chief of police, the judges, the DA, and the doctors. Even in a less corrupt shithole of a city it would be nearly impossible - once you're committed to a mental hospital and judged a danger to the public, it's actually quite difficult to get out again. Julian clearly has feelings for Sofia, but I am glad that they're stating a large part of the reason he's so loyal to her is because he feels guilt over his part in her trauma. Carmine basically took a spoiled high society girl - his own daughter - and threw her into a torture pit filled with murderous lunatics, had everyone she loved (minus Alberto) betray her, and then left her there for 10 years. And when she's finally released, her brother - the one loyal member of her family - is killed, and she's the one who finds the body. Honestly, whatever she does from this point on, I can't blame her...

[@lecomingbegend497]

@Kevster921 @DelusionalNYC Plus Alberto probably only went to drugs and alcohol after Sofia was locked up. Remember that Sofia had no idea Alberto had been on such things, she was shook by this info. Alberto looked fine in the past so I assume the cause of his plunder was Sofia being stuck in that hellhole ran by a puppet. The writing on this show is amazing, so many layers, even with the hair and makeup. The yellow dress was representative of her being reborn after realizing everything. Reborn and willing to do whatever it took to get back at those who harmed her, first she used to voice, but when that didn't work as intended she resorted to other means. She still has morals of course, she's no monster, in fact she only harmed those who played a part in her unjustified incarnation. She did however save , sleep next to, and defend the one who was innocent in that scenario, the girl that had nothing to do with things and was just there. The girl might thematically be a reflection of Sofia in her youth or a way for Sofia to relive the innocence she lost.

[@InimitableAde]

Yes she said that, and apparently Hector missed it when she said Alberto visited her every week, but Hector thinks that first visit was performative. I don't know why I still watch when I'm so annoyed by how little he pays attention because he's too busy talking over key moments.

[@lecomingbegend497]

@@InimitableAde i haven't watched the video yet. I come to videos to comment with other people who watched the show. I loved the points you addressed, interesting getting other viewpoints

[@InimitableAde]

@@lecomingbegend497 I'm loving the show, and it's so well written that I feel like it deserves a viewer's full attention. I still enjoy Adam and Augustin 2 out of 3 ain't bad. 😆

[@dreambrother82]

Alberto definitely cared for Sofia. That's why she's so set on vengeance for his murder.

[@gchicago9]

hector is king of bad takes so im not surprised

[@CarlyUTube]

All you guys do is try to predict the show😂 and did you forget that her brother was the ONLY ONE in the family that showed any attention? His drinking and drug problem was because he couldn’t deal with not being able to help her.

[@DJHolte]

They do that with pretty much everything they react to -- lots of predictions, half of which are way off, half of which turn out to be true. But I wish they wouldn't.

[@quicksandbuddy]

You're never supposed to doubt that Alberto and Sofia genuinely care for each other and he was trying to help her.

[@GodKnowsWhatIsInHere]

Yeah, nothing in the show implies otherwise. In fact, I'm now wondering if Alberto's alcohol and drug problems have to do with what happened to Sofia, since he looked fine back then and Sofia from Episode 1 didn't seem to know that he had issues at all.

[@LouisLitt369]

​@@GodKnowsWhatIsInHere this is why the writing team needs awards. There's plenty of other stuff like that strewn about the show without attention given to it. Brilliant show.

[@DakotaWalton-s9c]

Yeah but he was just too stupid to help her out lol

[@LouisLitt369]

@@DakotaWalton-s9c what could he have done?

[@DakotaWalton-s9c]

@@LouisLitt369 finish it with the reporters

[@mitchmatt6002]

Don't understand where the doubt over Alberto's devotion to his sister comes from, tbh - he was her only visitor, he just wasn't smart, brave or powerful enough to be able to help her until Carmine died. But I'm glad everyone's in agreement that Cristin deserves an Emmy for this role!

[@penguin50279]

i disagree about alberto. sofia even said that he visited her multiple times and was always there for her. and it seemed they were close before her imprisonment. i don’t think he was being fake.

[@brandonwalton443]

@@penguin50279 hmm it’s interesting that’s certainly how Sofia saw things but I’m not sure..this episode made me feel like Alberto was obviously a monster like the rest..but his father would not include him. I do feel as if he’s on her side cos he was never asked to not be

[@iittss_nathan9398]

Cristin militoti stole the show for me this episode, penguin didn’t cross my mind at all even when he showed up. The mannerisms, the subtle expressions, eyes that can pierce you. She’s amazing

[@mari_iscariot]

falcones gaslit sofia so hard she had to gas em all, wild. 🤣🤣

[@benfrankiii]

Summer Gleason is dead. She was the first victim Kenzie said when she was arrested

[@DJHolte]

They were all talking over that part so they of course missed it.

[@Gdubizwatchen]

Agree, at times there is too much insignificant talking, and not paying enough attention to what’s happening.

[@jake4174]

This show is masterfully written

[@NerdsEngage]

For this show to make me not want Batman to show up, to brake up the amazing storytelling is a huge testament to the show. Also Mark Strong should have been Carmine the whole time. Give Cristin Milioti her Emmy.

[@FeliciaWilliams1908]

I think y’all are being a bit too hard on Alberto. Carmine was not about to let him get his sister out and with all his power, Alberto would have ended up in Arkham, prison or dead. He did after the 6 months visit her every week. He was the only one that cared about her to visit. Yes he had problems but I think he cared for Sophia.

[@mistajay885]

Mark Strong is consistently getting type cast, and that type is DC villain. Like Stan Lee have cameos in every Marvel movie, if James Gunn has the guts, he should make Mark Strong play a villain in every DC movie 😂

[@thomasbaker2067]

My moment from the episode has to be when Sofia stands her ground in front of the family and tells them that she`s going to start a new life all on her own.

[@MillenniumEarl014]

My boy Johnny Vitti is alive

[@Xionize]

Looking forward to this show every week, they are cooking!

[@HeroesReforged]

Believe it or not, it gets crazier and crazier!

[@curtismurphy6206]

@@HeroesReforged Has Hector realised he was wrong about the brother yet?

[@duckman2709]

THIS was the episode to submit for Cristin Milioti to earn an EMMY nod. My God, she is just magnetic. It's been a long time since I've been able to say that of any TV actor/actress.

[@FortheLoveofMonsters]

The scenes of her peeling the wallpaper reminds me of the short story “The Yellow Wallpaper” about a woman losing her mind.

[@KendraShadow]

I was thinking about that, too! Very fitting with the themes of the story with this episode

[@randallmurrain1425]

For me, this episode was not just an Emmy-securing performance for Cristin Milioti, not just a harrowing episode of television, but a subtle indictment of the mental health system and how abysmal it can be for those who are looking for help and are instead thrown away and forgotten. A lot can be taken away from this.

[@parsman9914]

For those who don’t remember, Kenzie is the “mustache with a broken nose” from The Batman.

[@InimitableAde]

32:18 Carbon monoxide, which is odorless, unlike gas, which is not. She connected the plastic duct to the furnace exhaust, which is sometimes how people die accidentally or on purpose by sitting in a garage with the engine running.

[@MillenniumEarl014]

I read a news about that. Whole family dead in their sleep.

[@InimitableAde]

@@MillenniumEarl014 yes, seems almost every winter at least one family dies of carbon monoxide poisoning and unfortunately it happens when homes don't have carbon monoxide detectors too. What isn't widely known is that those combo smoke+CO detectors that go on the ceiling aren't that helpful because CO is heavier than air and doesn't rise like smoke does. The better place for those detectors is near the floor, no higher than the bed.

[@bigodeproduction]

She was gaslighted her entire life. Fitting she gassed them. When I was watching this episode it was giving me the feeling / tone / look of Boardwalk Empire. Turns out the cinematographer worked on that show. Great episode. Emmy worthy performance

[@cjjones3090]

I usually never comment but that's a wild take to say Alberto was being performative with Sofia. Just watching the actors you could tell he actually cared for his sister. That I actually threw me for a loop to hear that

[@TheatreJG25]

In the Media the villains are: the Arkham Inmates Reality: Carmine, the GCPD, and the Arkham Doctors

[@williamdaviddiazcuchimaque7511]

Si es la peor prisión del mundo

[@ajstyles5143]

It seems to me Oz told Carmine she was taking to the reporter because if he didn’t and he found out on his own Oz prolly would have been in Arkham with her or just straight killed. He did what he always does: look out for himself

[@blackmanwithcomputer]

He had no choice. He's her driver. He's the expendable one. He didn't even know why she was talking to the reporter. Look at what Carmine did to his own child. Oz was definitely in self-preservation. Especially after she told Oz that he doesn't matter, showing that even the nice Falcone still views him as nothing at the end of the day.

[@MillenniumEarl014]

Oz would be skinned alive if he didn't rat Sofia out. Carmine is evil as fuck.

[@zaynrivers7433]

How would he find out on his own? Sofia & Oz were the only ppl who knew about the meeting with the reporter?

[@blackmanwithcomputer]

@@zaynrivers7433 because if she published a story, and Carmine decided to confront her ....she would definitely bring up talking to his daughter to spite him before he kills her.

[@superkoopatrooper4879]

Im so greatful for HBO. Sopranos x Gotham is a fantastic mashup.

[@LouisLitt369]

With bits of Succession weaved in.

[@Panacamanana]

Nah. Alberto was legit caring about his sister.

[@ronnieh7925]

This is such a good show.. we hated alberto because he was a jerk to THE PENGUIN. He was still a jerk, but he was the only one in Sofias corner. Remember how bad we felt for Vic? Now they made us feel like jerks for ever believing that Sofia was crazy. BRILLIANCE.

[@thelaughingstormbornagain1297]

When Sofia's brother tells her she isn't getting a trial and you can clearly see him breaking down thinking about his sister in such a place is hard to watch. It adds so much complexity to his character in just a few moment. No wonder he became a drop head after he still had to live with his killer father knowing he couldn't do anything to save his sister. My god this show hits so hard. I got a bit emotional at a few points.

[@tylerbrown5526]

Damn, y'all really be shitting on Alberto lol

[@josephdepina6191]

I am Floored. This show is operating on the highest level possible. It is so damn good. I don't know what to say but THIS is how you do a tv show!

[@brettbaumler754]

The head of Arkham is named Ventris, which I assume is in reference to Floyd Ventris, a very minor Batman villain named Mirror Man

[@silentknight.95]

“You either die a hero, or you live long enough to see yourself become the villain”

[@ronnieh7925]

Expect Sofia was going to die the villain or survive to be.. a Gotham civilian.

[@thedarkknight2221]

Director Helen Shaver needs to be given not only an Emmy but give her her choice of ANY future movie or tv show she wants to direct. It was such a brilliant move to have Sofia’s story start off in this bright and colorful charity event, then get darker and drained of color as they’re inside Arkham Asylum, and then have this gorgeous warm sunlight follow Sofia as she’s walking through the mansion past the bodies of all of her treacherous family.

[@redsands1001]

The behind the scenes clip with the director and costumer is pretty nice.

[@Henchman-cv8np]

There is a famous short story called The Yellow Wallpaper. It’s about a woman that was committed to an insane asylum against her will by her husband under false pretenses. However sane she was, which seems like completely, the reader is left to try make sense of the story she is telling after all the mistreatment and isolation has hollowed out whoever she was.

[@diegoluna2549]

As Sophia's path has been shown more in the series, it has been shown that she was sane because she simply tried to trust Falcone. But still, knowing that he wouldn't care so that no one would betray him. He sent his own daughter to Arkham asylum. And even that treatment that was unfairly left to him by his father, his own family, is a joy. Not because of the injustice she received, but... that she was prepared to kill her own family and that it is... and showing that there is now no one capable of hurting her!!!

[@jasonmarbach]

The absolute 🤌🏻chutzpah🤌🏻 to take a show called The Penguin and devote an entire episode to another character’s backstory. There aren’t enough Emmys in the world for this show. (Also, man did I nail it cold on the Hangman/Carmine stuff)

[@icywinterof88]

I really want to start seeing the writers get more credit by Hollywood for things like this and Andor because these writers deserve so much credit.

[@tylerbrown5526]

I'm guessing Sofia needs Johnny Viti alive to get the remaining Falcone muscle to line up behind her.

[@Blue_Chee5e]

I thought it was because she wants to personally kill him, because he has always been the one that has been outright insulting and against her.

[@tylerbrown5526]

@@Blue_Chee5e Fair! He's just last one left and the Underboss. Has some swing left with the soldiers, I'm sure.

[@sbob.]

she might still need him for the triads

[@GoB1996]

I think they could ground clay face as a serial killer who does prosthetic makeup like Colin has on for the Penguin. That would be a cool movie to see Batman trying to uncover all these murders that thematically are linked but come off different because clayface is making things to frame certain people within Gotham. That’d be cool as hell

[@ladrac198]

This. Show. Is. Brilliant! Brilliant writing, editing, direction, cinematography, and give Colin Ferrell and Cristin Milioti their Emmys YESTERDAY!

[@WARdROBEPlaysWWII]

2:43 Sophia is moving her hands in an awkward way like people do when they’re nervous. Good direction and acting.

[@InimitableAde]

15:13 Sophia Falcone, you're under arrest for the murder of Summer Gleeson. She's certainly most definitely dead.

[@chris5632]

They couldn't hear it because sometimes they don't shut the F### up and just try to predict the show the whole time. I love these guys but they miss so much because they go 1000 mph. Yes we don't want them to sit there and not do anything but watch it and see where it goes

[@DJHolte]

They were all talking over that part, so I knew they missed the dialogue completely. That tends to happen fairly frequently.

[@donetajful]

Do they really listening , Summer's murder was the first name they said she's being arrested for, strange though as she is mentioned as a reporter in the comics....and Alberto she did say visits her regularly only one who had her back, what do you guys think he could've done , that why he turned to heavy drugs. The betrayal of penguin was just that her reported her to her father, which when u think of it was his job

[@elijahdrake9113]

Man it’s nice to see dudes reacting who actually know what’s going on lmao. Somehow most people haven’t figured out falcone is CLEARLY the hangman.

[@ryank4955]

I think they're off about Alberto though

[@elijahdrake9113]

@@ryank4955 yeah he clearly cared for Sofia

[@jamesliggins891]

after this episode? how could you not know? they literally spell it out for you lol

[@zaynrivers7433]

Yeah bc it’s supposed to be a twist that gets revealed in this episode lol.

[@MillenniumEarl014]

They should send the Emmy to the cast right now.

[@markkostecki4558]

Alberto is a good brother. And Summer is dead they said it.

[@AntonioBaker-zk8zu]

And Lauren Frank, the writer for this show in the show-runner James Gunn better keep her in house . WB better keep her in house. She deserves a lot of credit she created this show along with Matt Reese but this is hers.

[@josephdepina6191]

Incredible, masterclass

[@AntonioBaker-zk8zu]

* Matt Reeves *

[@NerdsEngage]

Hope im wrong, but i can see Sophia taking out Vick. Penguin doesn't usually have a right hand man, that would explain why also really messing him up.

[@ForeverBrooklynNYC]

As much as I’d hate to see Victor go out like that, it would be fitting.

[@NerdsEngage]

@@ForeverBrooklynNYC 100%

[@blackmanwithcomputer]

Wouldn't be the first kid she killed.

[@jonathanpowell7256]

She could go after his mom as payback for him taking her family away from her.

[@NerdsEngage]

@@jonathanpowell7256 I definitely think that will be apart of it. She's not gonna kill him, but make him wish she had.

[@AntonioBaker-zk8zu]

Her father broke her spirit. This event changed who she was.

[@Ultimate0ne]

"I expected it to be good, but I didn't expect it to be this good" My thought's exactly!!!

[@KristenYolanda]

i'm going to have nightmares about ol' girl that attacked Sofia.She is CUH-REEPY!!!!!

[@DJHolte]

The way she let her arms dangle almost lifelessly at her sides was for some reason extra creepy.

[@memorian8472]

This whole episode should just be called "I SUPPORT WOMEN's WRONGS!"

[@zaynrivers7433]

Love the channel but I don’t see the logic in saying “we saw in previous episodes that Alberto just parties, I don’t think he really cares about getting her out.” The previous episodes also portrayed Sofia as the cold blooded hangman killer. The whole point of this ep was flipping our pre conceived notions on our head. Also Sofia stated previously that he was the only one who came to visit her. Nobody else visited bc nobody cared about getting her out, except for him.

[@holgerpetersen9918]

"Strange little Girl" by The Stranglers at the End was the icing on the Cake!

[@Aguni20]

They are doing a great job of integrating plot points from The Batman. I just rewatched the movie and offricer Kenzie who was in the movie was mentioned in the flashback by Carmine

[@WARdROBEPlaysWWII]

9:07 that pause between good and man - amazing

[@LovesteinJr]

Rewatching the show through y’all’s reaction vids, getting ready for the final episode tonight, this show is great

[@AntonioBaker-zk8zu]

Helen shaver is veteran actress now, Director

[@bookkwyrm]

For the record, if you look closely at the afadavits, they say sofia was born in 85. Maria Kyle's headstone says she died in 2004. I think they probably didn't think they could pin her murder on a 19 year old.

[@extracheddar]

This show rocks

[@joaolucasgomes3033]

Didn't Alberto really care about Sofia? He visited her every week after the first 6 months when she couldn't have visitors. He did nothing to try to get her out of Arkham? What could he do when his own father, a powerful mobster, controlled everything? It's no coincidence that Sofia got out of Arkham right after Carmine died. Alberto is not a saint, no one in the series is, but to say he did nothing and didn't really care is to not pay attention to what you are watching.

[@kristjanz6696]

Now you know why batman don't kill his villains , he makes them wish they were dead

[@FortheLoveofMonsters]

I really want to see Selina Kyle and Sofia meet SOOOO BAAAADDD! I know I won’t get it but it would be amazing to have these half sisters team up/go against each other.

[@salmamouflih2572]

Sophia owns her freedom to the Riddle. I doubt Alberto would have been able to get Sofia out if their father wasn't already Dead

[@CReelProductions]

Sundays episode of #ThePenguin reminded of the time in Smallville were Lionel Luthor tried to have Lex committed to Belle Reve because he discovered the truth behind his grandparents death. Lionel Luthor and Carmine Falcone have there similarities.

[@grkpektis]

Her brother didn't seem like a drug addict before Sofia went to Arkham I think that's what pushed him over the edge. So Oz ruined his life by rating out Sifia even before he shot him

[@AkronRain69]

Are you guys watching the same show?!? Her brother was her only ally. 🤨🤔

[@curtismurphy6206]

I don;t know how they could be so wrong

[@izzyworld8068]

They're too busy talking over it and each other

[@TheatreJG25]

No Hyperbole, this is the greatest written comic book show since Batman: TAS.

[@stevenaguirre9326]

Now I’m wondering how Gotham PD was going to be like

[@insertname5028]

You guys have the worst assumptions cause you can’t wait 10 seconds

[@Deepthoughtsabound]

Oz tries to talk to sofia after the meeting, and she tells him hes just the driver. This, after her question to Oz "why are you inside?"

[@marcusmcgill4423]

They said they wanted Tuturro to return, but his filming schedule wouldn't allow it. As much as I love Tuturro and love him as Carmine, I actually liked Mark Strong more in this episode.

[@richardjohnson9543]

We already know from The Batman that Carmine is into strangling. He killed Selina's friend and nearly killed her the same way. Carmine was both a mob boss and a prolific serial killer

[@lisajohnson1528]

End credits was awesome as this ep was the stranglers strange little girl very on point

[@thaIllYankee]

If this show sticks the landing, I think it'll be better than Shogun because it doesn't need Batman but strengthens its Lore at the same time 🤯🤯🤯 I don't know how Gunn & Safran will be able to establish a DCU Batman: Matt Reeves' Gothamverse is becoming so successful in its groundedness, that's what casual fans will come to expect😱

[@EzeAfc]

They gaslighted her, she just gassed them.

[@dlweiss]

I think you hit the nail on the head re: Batman's non-involvement - so long as the criminals are just squabbling with and hurting each other, I doubt Batman much cares. It's only when their criminal activities start affecting the general population of Gotham that Batman would feel any need to intervene.

[@VADallasCowboysFan]

Yep very wrong on the brother analysis there guys. And quite a few misses in predictions for this episode

[@je4895]

The show is fkn great. No problems with it thus far! Hope the last 4 keep up the same pace

[@auntvesuvi3872]

Thanks to Adam, Hector and Agustin! 🐧

[@vegasviking86]

This gave me Requiem for a Dream vibes when she was in Arkham

[@CleansHaven]

The end theme for these videos is catchy but really silly

[@chris5632]

Sophia- Oz you should of talked to me. Oz shut up you're just the driver. Kenzie said you're arrested for the murder of Summer Gleason, etc In the past episodes Sophia said Alberto was the only one to visit me every week.

[@JeffHudsonTV]

At 10:23 Hector's impression is amazing lol

[@cmoney2400able]

what happened to Sofia was horrible, but I don't fault Oz at all. He did do what he was sposed to in that situation and given how Sofia would treat and speak to him I'd say it was a lil payback

[@namor2x2x]

im so sorry for vic we all know whats coming for him penguin is going to use him as leverage

[@mannybruce8950]

I think vic will evolve into a professional hit man for the Penguin . The scene of him at the bus stop was a symbol of his old life of innocence dying . A decision similar to Anakin Skywalker making the fateful choice to turn to the Dark Side .

[@lucianoaraujo9652]

Eu tenho um cunhado esquizofrênico e ele passou muitos anos em um manicômio público, hoje ele mora com minha sogra e eu ajudo a cuidar dele, de vez enquanto ele fala dos choques que ele levava!! É insano como a medicina era antigamente. Ele já tem uns 55 anos de idade!!!

[@NoShiiitSherlock]

They GASLIT her. So she GASSED them.

[@ZachDickson]

Is Sophia transforming into Poison Ivy? I would love it because she is such a good actress

[@davidfieldsend]

I agree with Hector, at this point, with this show being SO good, id rather have a Penguin s2 than The Batman sequel. I really hope Sofia survives this season

[@carlosrvra]

Have to say that I find it hard to buy that Carmine Falcone would put his own flesh & blood in Arkham for TEN YEARS, especially for as little as she knew!!! Maybe if he was her step dad, or an uncle who wanted to take over the family instead. Maybe if she wouldn’t let it go & kept bringing her theory up. Maybe if he just shipped her off to a harsh boarding school in Italy. But in addition to being so cruel for your own child, just really bad press. Also, looks like she ONLY got out once Alberto (briefly) took over the family, so, good brother, if not garbage human.

[@christophernguyen8083]

I was just thinking the same thing. If Sofia survives this season I hope that she meets her half sister Selena and they can team up. The Falcone Sisters.

[@jonathanmarks1794]

adam, 1st charge the cop cited was murder of the reporter

[@gradea2635]

I’m calling it right mf now THE BLISS IS IVY! Look at magpie neck after she takes the pill. Her veins turn green and makes the shape of vines on her face

[@ChrisHaar]

Sofia needs Johnny Viti to back her as the new head of the family.

[@KenFromchicago]

Carla Vitti's little girl moves to California with Hector and Adam and she gets hired by DC / WB and they tell her life story.

[@VADallasCowboysFan]

This show man 👌🏾🤌🏽👏🏽

[@AngelPhoenixR83]

THAT’S RIGHT GIRL!!! GET YOUR REVENGE!!! 🤭😁… but then why does Johnny Vitti always get spared?!?! 😅

[@Henchman-cv8np]

They wouldn’t have to pay everyone off…at a certain point you are just part of the system. To the non bribed people in the hospital, Sophia would just be a patient with little rights and zero credibility. Her medical history and criminal record/sentence, albeit falsified, would carry much more weight than any thing she said.