HeroQuest: Mythic Review

[@TheSerasi80]

START KELLAR'S KEEP AFTER YOU FINISH THE BASE GAME After the base game, there really isn't an order. Though most people play Kellar's Keep next. This gives the Witchlord a break and makes his return more dramatic. In the base game Prince Magnus is preparing for war against Zargon's forces. In Kellar's Keep Prince Magnus has lost the first battle and is trapped in Kellar's Keep. Return of the Witchlord deals mostly with the Witchlord's revenge on the Heroes. CARRY OVER YOUR HEROES UPGRADES Your Heroes upgrades, weapons, gold and potions carry over from quest book to quest book campaign. The expansions will throw larger parties of monsters at you. So you would most likely die on the first quest of an expansion campaign if you made new heroes with no upgrades. YE OLDE INN HEROQUEST is a Heroquest Community. Any questions you have can be answered here. Plus there are fan made quest book campaigns here. You also have resources here to make your own quest book and special cards too. Enjoy.

[@DriveThruReview]

Awesome. Appreciate it! I will sticky this comment so others can see as well. Thank you.

[@jezz2k]

I believe Return of the Witch Lord was the first expansion to the original version. It was the only expansion released for the 8-bit and 16-bit computer adaptation by Gremlin Graphics.

[@TinyDiodes]

It aint HeroQuest till the corners of the box are duct taped together.

[@joshfrench5858]

Lol

[@danieldenmon5006]

Well, you're in luck, because quite a few people are receiving theirs with damage to the boxes.

[@MattSH06]

The best thing about Hero Quest are the reviews.

[@DriveThruReview]

Not this one. When the Bard does his review... then yes :)

[@LeeroyPorkins]

THE BWOADSWOAD!

[@geerstyresoil3136]

got this for my son for christmas, can't wait to play it with him.

[@BadAndy3]

The game that started it all for me. I still have my original copy all painted up. Don't really play it anymore because it's too simplistic but I'll never get rid of it.

[@Flowerz__]

@@Necropantz I’m wondering what’s a good game like this too

[@jaesistich3218]

Heroquest is the best Game ever made! And everyone who says otherweise is wrong!

[@Le_Petomane]

Heroquest is to Warhammer and D&D as Pop Up Pirate is to Merchant & Marauders.

[@TokuAndAnimationNewsNetwork]

I loved this game as a kid and was saddened when it was canned and I never managed to get the Barbarian quest pack. We stopped playing it aftr several years and then my brother sold it on me for drug money. I'm so glad it's back and can play it with my wife and friends once again as they can now see why I loved this game so much. It is still to me the best RPG board game ever made and the moment Hasbro announced it I backed the Mythic Tier without hesistation despite having just supported 3 Sentinels. What makes it even better is now actually have an actual Witch Lord game piece. I always hated having to use the Chaos Sorcerer for him since he looked nothing like the Witch Lord.

[@andrewbakescakes9684]

Great rundown of a classic! I still have my original version from 30 years ago with all the parts, but never got the expansions.

[@stephenkane304]

For movement, we use a 6 + 1 red dice rule. It ensures party members aren't left behind and preserves the random element.

[@garethholman1050]

I'll be using 6+D6 movement to help mitigate the excesses for movement discrepancies whilst also allowing for some randomness. This way it shouldn't leave party members lagging too far behind with other members passing on their movements to enable them to catch up too.

[@Caratacus1]

Obligatory reference to The Bard's legendary Heroquest review. However Joel does a fine job as ever here.

[@gaminggeek241]

I had no idea an app was coming out for this game--looking forward to it! Painting up my minis right now...

[@aherosquest4536]

Hell yeah. Nothing like my favorite reviewer to make me feel like $#!t for missing out on the crowdfunding greatness that it HEROQUEST!!!!

[@DriveThruReview]

Haha :(

[@GroundingPlatitudes]

My flgs got a few copies of HQ in stock this week. I’ve never played as a kid so I gotta give it a try. Thanks Joel for another great review.

[@Windowlesswhitevan]

Between this and Diablo 2 coming back out. I have pretty much reverted back into being a child

[@Perchpole]

I'm glad you mentioned Warhammer Quest and Shadows of Brimstone. It's a very clear lineage - with each game building on the framework of the predecessor. I've never played HQ but judging by your review it looks a bit too light - especially compared to the others.

[@TokuAndAnimationNewsNetwork]

It might be light, but it also doesn't get overly complicated to the point where you are looking up the rules every time you go to play it because you forgot a third of them.

[@MutantGuppyFromHell]

used to love playing this. I had bought the old Advanced HeroQuest and had some of the character packs for that. I think that was released by GW if I remember correctly

[@VaultBoy13]

Yes, you carry over with the existing characters. Because nothing in the new quests give you the magical equipment from the first adventure. The newer quests didn't have a lot of special equipment that the heroes got.

[@DriveThruReview]

Ok. Good to know. Appreciate it!

[@danielwilliamson6180]

I've owned the 1989 HeroQuest since 2007 and I've played the 1991 Atari version online.

[@frankndice]

I was obsessed with the original way back in the day and when I saw they were reprinting it I was ecstatic. I backed it on the first day and pledged $200 for everything. Some time after that I became really disappointed with the art as I thought the OG looked so much better and wasn’t feeling the cartoony look they were going with this one. After years of looking and searching for the OG game I was excited about backing this but then after much consideration I cancelled my pledge. Now I think I’m starting to regret it.

[@LeeroyPorkins]

I actually have Altar Quest, Pre-ordered it February last year and got it in November last year. Still waiting for Hour of Need.

[@CosmicTavern]

Looking forward to more expansions coming out for this.

[@DriveThruReview]

Likewise, but that might break your re-boxing strategy ;)

[@CosmicTavern]

@@DriveThruReview Haha! Back to the drawing board!

[@jonathonfreeman9233]

Quick Q = does this have either a scannable quest template map or a pdf that you can download to make new quests? That was my favorite memory of the game was our half-baked scenarios that we'd throw at each other.

[@DriveThruReview]

It does not. But a quick perusal of the internet should yield several templates and "quest maker" style sites and apps etc :)

[@Cavalier92]

There is a blank quest map I. The back of the quest book.

[@rachelandryan]

A bit of a deep cut, but I felt The Others gave me a Heroquest vibe. Heroquest was my favourite board game as a kid.

[@DriveThruReview]

It's been several years since I played that. I remember enjoying it as well. I'd have to think back regarding the mechanics etc...

[@lincolnwillis3345]

Do all those miniatures come in the one that's for sale through like GameStop?

[@DriveThruReview]

Most of them yes. I have all the current expansions and such and some extra minis from the Haslab exclusive, but you get a good chunk with just the base game.

[@goodjessehobbies]

It's been 30 years and I still don't know if characters are supposed to carry over or reset between expansions. And bonus, I wonder if they got rid of the US 1st quest, which was shoehorned in, used every piece in the box and was the hardest quest. Didn't learn to skip that quest until about 2016.

[@plazma2891]

its definitely coming to retail

[@itsallfunandgames723]

I got mine today! I created a system for solo play, so I don't have to worry about anybody else not wanting to play it because its simple and potentially boring. Though all my hard work may be upended when the app comes out.

[@itsallfunandgames723]

@@timmyotoole7312 : Well my system randomly generates the dungeon, very similar to how Warhammer Quest works. And I figure if the app supports solo play, I can play through the three new quest books, which I haven't experienced before.

[@iamtheoneyouknowbest]

Just got mine. I'm still looking to get the original again. First thing I noticed. the gargoyle is a bit underwhelming compared to the OG one. Still, can't wait to get this played with my son. :)

[@mikolajwitkowski8093]

You can also get Claustrophobia used instead of 1643,it's going to be 25% of the price but have more content, look better.

[@DriveThruReview]

That's a good point. I disagree about it looking better though. :) And, it only has SLIGHTLY more content than 1643 if you include all the expansions for the original. 1643 has some of the expansions baked into it. But, ya you can definitely find the original on the cheap.

[@-RTC-]

Oh I’m excited for this review!

[@-RTC-]

I’ll reply to my comment after watching, I’m glad the game has been reprinted for those who never had the chance to play or for anyone who might’ve lost it to time but it is a little disappointing that they didn’t revamp the game a little bit. I have an original copy that my cousin gave me years and years ago but the stipulation was that when he had kids I’d give it back and his kids are now 10 and 13 so I’m sending it back this year! I’m tempted to pick up a copy of it, but I don’t know if it’s the nostalgia nagging at me or if we’ll actually play it. Thanks for the review as always!

[@jjg1067]

Random question, but are the extra heroes backer exclusive? I missed the campaign so just curious

[@DriveThruReview]

Yes they are.

[@jjg1067]

@@DriveThruReview Thanks

[@talljohnsparky]

The app is available now! Can play it solo if you want!

[@farqyclassicgamer8936]

App launched today !!!

[@DriveThruReview]

Yep. Just downloaded it. It's up for retail as well :)

[@TokuAndAnimationNewsNetwork]

It did? I never got an email about it.

[@limitbreak84]

Great review, love the vid, watched a few others. Subscribed!

[@invictarussuzerain]

I was watching this while I unpacked my copy - thanks!

[@danieldenmon5006]

The app is already available.

[@karlmurphy4167]

Retail was announced by Hasbro the other day

[@jonathanmedrano1027]

Which quest from the base quest book has the line of sight issue. I am going to be Zargon in an upcoming session. You could comment or send me a useful link to read about it. Also what is the line of sight error or problem that is not fixed or explained?

[@DriveThruReview]

Nothing in the quest book with LOS. The example in the rules is… weird. The orc in the upper right corner seems like it may or may not have LOS. It’s really a corner case. I think it would just be a house call at the time. I don’t remember the exact quest that has an icon in the wrong spot. It was mentioned in a Facebook group. I know I’ve seen it before on BoardGameGeek.com as well.

[@paulbaker5256]

Some of the models have bent weapons. This is easily fixed. Immerse the bent part in hot water for a few seconds (hot tap water is fine), carefully bend the part straight with your fingers. Careful, the plastic is very soft at this point. Then when the part is straight dip the model into icy water to set. All done. Kids are advised to get an adult to help with this. Then don’t store the models in the plastic inserts supplied. These are poorly designed and what bent them in the first place.

[@DriveThruReview]

Ya. I had three models that were SLIGHTLY bent, and one skeleton that was bent pretty bad. But, the hot water trick fixed them extremely quickly. I also ended up throwing out the inserts and just put everything into the main big box, with plenty of room for future expansions.

[@thomasaworboys8146]

The best thing about HeroQuest is that it DOESN'T REALLY SAY! It's more of a guideline. And the possibilities are endless.

[@eusantis]

Can all these expansions be bought in stores?

[@DriveThruReview]

Not at the moment.

[@eusantis]

@@DriveThruReview Will be? The truth is that as long as they do not assure me that there are expansions, I will not go for the base game (which can already be bought in Europe), because the game seems, today, too little without the expansions. By the way, I was a happy owner of the original Heroquest, when I was 13 years old.

[@DriveThruReview]

@@eusantis Ya I'm not positive. My gut feeling says they will do another Haslab project (or I guess "Zavvi" in your case).

[@TheHalflingRogue]

Is that a game topper i see 👀 Ps. Do you happen to know the dimensions for the heroquest board? We have a Lestrade and was wondering if this would fit. Thanks, great video! ⚔️

[@DriveThruReview]

It is a Game Topper. It's the Watson. If you have room enough for 100cm x 75 cm that should be plenty.

[@ignitedxblaze]

that whole restart portion sounds like a roguelike, wonder if that was in the orginal rules

[@DriveThruReview]

It was afaik

[@VaultBoy13]

It was. Also, if a character died, their magical equipment was made available early in the next question they played as a catch-up mechanism.

[@DriveThruReview]

@@VaultBoy13 Ah that’s right. Should have mentioned that. That rule is still around.

[@kyled9203]

How can we buy this???

[@DriveThruReview]

Avalon Hill direct, Gamestop, Bestbuy, etc... Just went up for pre-order yesterday.

[@polishprince47]

ZARGON OPEN THE DOOR!!

[@Kallistosprom]

Shame it wasn’t available in the UK

[@ElTsunamiDiablo]

It was through Zavvi

[@DriveThruReview]

It was through another party.

[@gergotothmihaly2307]

No more bunny dice? :(

[@potatosurfing6779]

now they need to make warhammer quest

[@TheGreatDazod]

Oh man I also pledged for this and mine is still unfulfilled and here is someone already got theirs :(

[@DriveThruReview]

Ya they’ve been trickling out. I know a few peeps that still haven’t got theirs.

[@TheGreatDazod]

@@DriveThruReview yeah and I assume since I am in Canada that will slow it down too, just really excited for the nostalgia bomb to hit me

[@chrisleonard2908]

Just got mine on 11/11. Can't wait to dig in to it and play again.

[@DieNische]

Thanks for the review. But I really do not see any need to play this in 2021. ;) So many much better games out there. :)

[@TokuAndAnimationNewsNetwork]

I disagree. Don't get me wrong, games like Gloomhaven are cool, but they don't compare to Hero Quest.

[@DieNische]

@@TokuAndAnimationNewsNetwork Gloomhaven is not a favourite for me, but games like Machina Arcana, Secrets of the lost tomb, Drunagor, Sword & Sorcery, Brimstone or the new Descent are so much better in every single aspect (monster profile, tactics, depth of player turns, scenario design, time pressure, item combinations or RPG feeling etc.).

[@TokuAndAnimationNewsNetwork]

You lost me at time pressure. :-) I don't like games that have time limits as it ruins my strategizing.

[@DieNische]

@@TokuAndAnimationNewsNetwork To me without time limits there is no strategy at all because resources do not matter with unlimited time. ;)

[@RAWxxx07]

Would love to get your review including the Hero Quest App :) Really enjoy your reviews

[@DriveThruReview]

Thank you. I should give it another shot now that it's been updated a bit. When it first came out, the AI was really "dumb" and very easy to cheese the combat. Other than that (which is kind of game breaking), it performed really well. The other thing I think it should do is randomize the quest locations like a real player would... but I realize that's a lot to ask of it.