Why you shouldn't do valves on a VFR800 VTEC

[@HeroRR]

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[@dhowser2008]

Since the manufacture are the gods of their engines, knowing from testing when its best change things or adjust them, they are right! But in your case I would wait until you get to your high miles and adjust them. So you plan to own the bike until 100k Miles then at 50K adjust them, then sell the bike at 100K miles. :)

[@ErichRankin]

What's the song name at end

[@OCLandspeeder]

To adjust or not to adjust. That's the conundrum. The big difference in the VTEC valve adjustment is that in order to inspect the VTEC valves, you must FIRST remove the camshafts and fit the VTEC lifter stoppers, then put the camshafts back on. Then you check valve lash. It's not hard to do but definitely time consuming. However, you can check the non-VTEC valves without removing the camshafts first. Also, the valve clearances for the VTEC valves are twice as wide as on the non-VTEC valves. So VTEC valves will normally stay within specs because of that wider range. Finally, if you do have to adjust the valves, EACH shim is $34! Because the lifter IS the shim. Should one adjust the valves on a VTEC VFR? If one is asking that question, then the answer is yes. Because you never know until you check if the valves are out of spec. I think if you want to occupy the middle ground, then check the non-VTEC valves (that's easy to do). If they are within spec then you can have some confidence that the VTEC valves will also be in spec (since they have a much wider clearance range).

[@URBANENGINEER]

I am thinking of picking one up, and tbh I think I would only do the non-VTEC valves too!

[@enlightenedidiot9552]

OCLandspeeder thats a great comment with REAL insight. Thanks :)

[@enlightenedidiot9552]

i'm_crusty_ Two i like that approach :)

[@yootoob78]

This comment has more info than the dude rambling in the video about whatever.

[@richfjr1300]

interesting, yes, so inspect just the non VTEC valves, i'd say that would be sufficient. I have a fifth gen so no Vtec, have to inspect the valves soon just wondering how big of a job that can be, hoping not too bad

[@cpuuk]

I think it's a Stag... en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Triumph_Stag . You are essentially correct, if you ride thrashing the engine you will need that 16K valve check. I remember dropping my FZ750 in for its regular 20K valve check, the mechanic said it was fine, no adjustment needed, I rode that fast, but never thrashed it. My old pushrods engines i.e. CX500, Guzzi v500 defo needed adjustment at the allotted time regardless of riding style.

[@DJ10ROCS]

CPU UK Looked like a Stag to me too! Beautiful cars! Especially in British Racing Green!

[@KevsShed]

As a Brit I nearly spat out my Cup 'O' Tea when you said that you didn't even know that Triumph made cars! :) Cool video as always dude! ;)

[@PC-uh6hk]

I was thinking the same thing. One of my first cars was a Spitfire 4 mk2.

[@marcpeters4599]

Dude's probably a zoomer - no clue about "old" foreign cars😉

[@surferdudemi]

I checked the price of the gaskets and o-rings online in the US, per your video. It's about $250 just for those consumables when you checke the valves!

[@Morelia300]

"A Triumph... I didn't know they made cars." When I got into bikes I was like, "Triumph makes motorcycles?"

[@udovandenheuvel9920]

From a technical point of view, it always makes sense to keep the valve clearance on an internal combustion engine within the target range. If it cost 100€ on the VFR 800, no one here would question it. The fact that it is much more complex and therefore more expensive is insignificant from a technical point of view. For the engine to breathe well, the intake valves must open to a certain extent and the exhaust valves must be able to blow out the hot gases. Imagine if I were to continuously hit a piece of very hard metal with a hammer; on average 1500 times a minute and that for years. Inevitably, material is removed; and that's what happens here. At some point, the shim is too narrow and must be replaced by a wider one to restore the nominal dimension. HeroRR's thesis is purely monetary; technically, it must read: Maintain your motorcycles properly, then you will enjoy them longer.

[@bigpapa8152]

Or you could spend the 750 bucks and make it to 150000 miles. Imo it's the one service not to skip on, but to each there own. Your point on mechanics is valid Trust none of em.. I've only owned inline 4s and you can tell by sound and feel when the valves are getting tight. Once they set in they rarely need adjusting.

[@dpen325]

My honda vfr 800 have 188 000 km I don't know in miles ,You do the count. But the engine was never opened! It's still running normaly.

[@fornicateu2]

114,000 miles.

[@goingwildagain]

V Tec on non v tec

[@marcinbera1842]

Hi there, It's already 2020 and are you still owner of your VFR800 silver one? If yes, no valves adjustment so far? :)

[@5891jonathan]

I have modded the hell out of my VFR so it works like Honda SHOULD HAVE made it (suspension, fueling, and more) and I intend to keep it. I maintain it on Honda’s recommended schedule because I am that kind of guy. I am also a Ducati owner. Ducati’s run great if maintained, but if poorly maintained they are a nightmare! IMO every motorcycle should be maintained according to the manufacturer’s specification. That said, I know a guy who never checked his VTEC VFR’s valves in the first 100,000 MILES. That’s strikes me as crazy.

[@eric62backstrom]

Mine's st 63k miles and hasn't been done.

[@udovandenheuvel9920]

@@eric62backstrom Would you abolish the fire department in your town just because there hasn't been a fire in 6 months? In other words, your statement may be true, but one should beware of generalizations.

[@eric62backstrom]

@@udovandenheuvel9920 one should also be aware of assuming to know things that they don't. I've only owned my bike for a few months. So generally if it was mine from new it would have been done at periodic maintenance interval as per manufacturer's recommendation. How's that for a generalization?

[@udovandenheuvel9920]

@@eric62backstrom Who should know by reading your (above shown) comment? When somebody states "mine has 63.000 and never got a valve maintenance" it seems like you wanted to say.. "and so you don't need either".

[@daddywaddy8781]

Hi Hero! Saw one today 2007 interceptor with 9k miles for $5000. Paint is flawless at honda dealer. Should i pull the trigger and buy it? It will be my first bike

[@TheSeaRoach]

Dude the valves need to be checked coz "IT DOES NOT GO WRONG AT THE END" as you stated, rather they gradually go wrong and by the time something is noticeable with such factory tuned engines it is too late and a you are looking at more costs.

[@paulchurchill9269]

I'm a mechanic been riding since I was six I've got a 2005 vfr 800 I agree with what this bloke says 100 percent all that will happen is the bike will miss if they are too tight or rattle if to lose if you don't have these symptoms the bike is fine getting valves adjusted is a waist of money unless you are racing your bike vfr has shims in buckets nothing can stuff up

[@HORNET6]

MG made the Midget. Triumph cars were a different company to Triumph motorcycles and that looked like a TR6...cool car for sure 👍

[@tescofood]

It is a good debate this one. I've owned a VFR. It cost me £550 at a Honda dealer to check valves, which didn't need adjusting at 16000 miles. I bought the bike at 9000 miles for £2500. For £550 I could have got a new shock, or exhaust, etc. Absolutely not worth doing the valves. Maybe at every 32k, or 48k miles. But the cost is not worth it. Annnd @George Wallace, not everyone owns loads of tools and a garage to store a bike in pieces in. Some people use these bikes are their only way to commute to work.

[@wallycustard1340]

0:24 This makes me so glad to be living in England. Filtering is perfectly legal here and it makes travelling by motorbike brisk and enjoyable. Why on earth would your authorities make you wait behind cars when you can simply filter past? Do you actively encourage congestion?

[@GoRIDERSnet]

I’ve got VFR 800 V-Tec for about 5 year. It was 38000 miles when I’ve checked valves and there was nothing to adjust. In UK you can get a second hand engine with 25000 miles on the clock for the half price of the valve clearance. I’ve been told by Honda technician that there is nothin to look for at 32k miles and don’t even think about it at 16k because it’s a total waste of money.

[@hasselnutz]

I have a 2002 with around 110k (km) on her. I've checked the valves twice: around 48k and 96k. During the first check only one valve needed adjustment and it was the smallest adjustment shim so basically that didn't matter at all. During the 2nd check no valve needed adjustment. So yes, basically I'd say you can easily check them around 100k for the first time.

[@mickeymouse4897]

Bull

[@milodoe]

Is it not easier to open KZbin, find a tutorial how to adjust valves in VFR V-tec + read the Honda's manual and do valves adjustment on your own? You save mony and lear something new. It is kind of Win - Win situation :)

[@HeroRR]

+MOTOManiek I've read into the process and it is quite advanced actually and although I'm not stranger to rebuilding engines I would be very worried working on my daily driver. If you mess up the cams while doing the valves then you can ruin the engine so it's too risky for the very tiny reward.

[@milodoe]

I had exactly the same feeling when I started taking care for my own bike. When you combine youtube, manual and friends knowledge about e.g. valves adjustment it will become suddenly easy job to do. At least I did so. Take couple of beers, a friend who knows how to do it and spend some time in a workshop to fix it or at least check it if then actually need any adjustement:) Anyway, good luck :)

[@Szlejer]

The first valve check is at 30k miles, the rest is at every 15k miles on a 6th gen.... And it does make a difference. First valve adjustment was just done on my bike by a VFR specialist and there were parts worn enough to be replaced. It COMPLETELY eliminated the VTEC jolt of the bike, reduced the typical jerky VFR throttle response at low rpms and increased fuel efficiency...

[@ismaelzapater5316]

I concur, the valve adjustment almost eliminated the VTEC jolt and the bike is so much smoother now.

[@forceddiversity3737]

The flapper mod and elimination of the pair valve will sort the low rpm issues,nothing to do with the valves 😃

[@fordy112420]

​@@forceddiversity3737 what's the flapper? My vtech has just started making a ticking sound and a mechanic says it's the air filter.

[@Holydiver7019]

Just check the valves and you know the clearance, here in europe they check it at 40000 kms, i have had a fzr1000 and after 38000 km the intake valves had almost no clearance so i've had to buy a few shims, it is a lot of work.

[@badenwatson3653]

Just be aware that you dont know the history. you may just cruising but the previous owners may have flogged it every day man :) Love yo shit. keep doing what your doing man!

[@upsidedowndog1256]

Didn't know Triumph made cars!!! I will give you 750 bucks for it when the valves go out of adjustment.

[@GTARockman]

haha. Almost none of the bikes really need valve adjustment.

[@bigpapa8152]

Robert Fraley Almost all, so some do then?

[@antoineastruc239]

Almost non of us used their helmet, di you think we shouln't wear one? (ok, bad exemple, sometime I wish I wouln't…).

[@captvertigo]

I agree on two things: 1. The valve clearance check and adjustment on this bike is very complex and expensive. 2. Yes you are an idiot (that allows you into my club). Seriousness aside, had my 2002 15 years, 34k miles with no issues other than known electrical, fixed myself by running extra ground wires and lately getting a almost hollow metal knock from engine. Removed both cct's and added tension to the springs, no change in sound so hoping its the clutch. Did flap and pair mod as in your video, but not the snorkel since the flap removal seems enough, and has made a slight improvement in low end throttle response. Also just installed Delkevic exhaust, can't believe I waiting 15 years before doing this, the sound is incredible. Have great drone video of bikes on "Tail of the Dragon by Drone" by vVertigo on KZbin, keep up the good work.

[@HeroRR]

Awesome video! I enjoyed it! Thanks for sharing :)

[@vn3801]

Picking up an 05 tomorrow morning. Its like when I was 5yrs old night before xmas. He let me test ride it and it hides its weight crazy well. The 6800 Vtec that some complain about well for me it's just adds character - loads of it !!

[@eric62backstrom]

Do you still have it?

[@vn3801]

@@eric62backstrom sold

[@eric62backstrom]

@@vn3801 might I ask why? Not trying to get into your financial situation, did you find it undesirable to own?

[@vn3801]

@@eric62backstrom I had a budget to buy something newer so got an S1000R. The VFR is a great bike, if I didnt have the extra budget would have easily kept it. They are a bit heavy but the semi sports bike rider position opens them up to decent back road ability. I nearly put in fork cartridges AUD1000 and custom rear shock AUD1400 brands like Penske etc… which would truely transform its handling to a new level, but got the BMW instead. The VFR is full of character with the V4 engine so a well looked after example is an excellent choice of bike.

[@eric62backstrom]

@@vn3801 can't blame you there! I'd kick a puppy for one of them!

[@burgersquid]

I had a VF500 sink a valve while I was riding. I was on my way home from my parents house, everything was fine until the engine suddenly seized and my back wheel was skidding. Reflexively, I pulled the clutch and rolled to a stop. It was on a city street in a residential area so I was doing 25, maybe 30 tops. But imagine if that had happened on the freeway? Or on a backroad, leaned over at 70mph? If you want to accept the risk of serious injury or death because someone on reddit says "it'll probably be fine" that's disappointing, but it's on you. But to make a video proclaiming that people shouldn't get their valves checked? Come on, man. You can do better. Sure you put a disclaimer in the video but let's face it, the only people worse than sportbikers at reading disclaimers and warning labels is probably Jackass cast members. People who think this is a good way to save money: it probably won't cost $700 if you strip the bike down before taking it to the shop. Remove the fairings, seat, tank, and radiators, then trailer it/get a friend to trailer it in. It's still a time consuming job since it's a V-4, but pulling off the tupperware will probably mitigate that cost. Better yet, a shop manual, the required tools, and even a couple months of mini storage rental (if you don't have a garage, but need a dry/secure place to work) would be wayy cheaper, and you would learn a lot about your bike.

[@Gonzy1122]

I like this guy. I like him more with every video.

[@HeroRR]

Hey, I like you too!

[@Dave.S.TT600]

I'm falling in love with this Guy too (but in a manly way)

[@phdtobe]

Gonzy1122 He reps New England very well.

[@Daschickenify]

I adjusted the valves on my VFR 400 a few days ago. The engine had allegedly been rebuilt before. FIFTEEN of the sixteen valves were tight. Didn't make any abnormal sounds. Haven't started it since, but it should start easier. Thankfully it has screw type adjusters. EDIT: Pro tip: It helps to measure the clearance at the right spot. The spot I used wasn't the correct one and the clearances measured different. When it started it rattled like nothing else, took another plunge back into the valve covers to do it properly to fix it. I have done several shim under bucket valve adjustments, all were a pain in the ass, but all of them I would do again. The gear driven cam vfr 800 isn't too horrible, but adding a chain into that mix would just make it suck. The vfr 800 had 2 or 3 valves out of spec at 40000 miles, probably had never been adjusted before.

[@animealpha4795]

Lol, I'm watching 144p with buffering because the internet suck where I'm right now.

[@matmuffin1]

You could check to see if there inspec. All motorcycles require removal of the cams to adjust the valves since the shims are under the bucket

[@HeroRR]

Not true, I've never had to remove cams to check valves before.

[@matmuffin1]

HEROrr wait you have to take the cam out to check the clearnce?

[@HeroRR]

Nevermind you're right, you don't have to remove them to check but you do to adjust.

[@bigpapa8152]

Alan Same with my Concours, plus reusable rubber cover gasket. Super easy job and quick.

[@BigBadLoneWolf]

@@HeroRR you have to remove the cams,remove the outer vtec valve spring, insert the slider stop pins, then re-install the cams to check the vtec valve clearances, which means the cams have to come out twice , just to check the vtec valves

[@ruikazane5123]

It is already a pain to adjust valve clearance on current sportbikes, then this...?

[@convex7456]

Wonder what percent of people pay to get valve Maintinence. And the shop never does it at all.

[@mikecronis]

Ask them to write down the values.

[@ruikazane5123]

True. They change the fluids but not even touched the valvetrain...whoo...money gone to their pockets...But Honda, being a huge company cannot do that!(except if $tealer$hips does it)

[@MemduhErdogar]

My bike is 2004 and i checked the valves during winter, at 26700 miles and 5 valves were out of spec, i did the job myself but parts cost me around £350, and yes the job is pain in the butt, not sure i would ever do that again aldo on a £2500 bike is it worth spending that much money where you can buy a se ond hamd engine for around £500. I dont know, but whilst doing that job i have painted the valve covers removed the throttle body and clean inside v and replace any worn parts. I know my bike is good for a many more thousands of miles.

[@marvays]

Hi. Is it a good bike when I'm 193 cm tall? I had no motorcycle for 15 years :(

[@R0BL0W]

I had one of these and I have to say I got bored of the VTEC thing pretty fast. I swapped it for a mint 99 FireBlade. 60kg lighter, 20bhp more powerful and no VTEC. Horses for courses though

[@aaronchadwick2682]

I ride a 1998 VFR800 and it's got almost 100k (99,200 ish) and I don't think the valves were ever adjusted. The bike runs great and the VFR is known for taking a massive amount of miles

[@exmon007]

The 98 VFR does not have a VTEC engine so you do not need the valve adjustment service. The 98 VFR has the stator and harness issue.

[@jamesrindley6215]

Yet more misinformation on the internet. Perhaps the valves need adjusting, perhaps they don't, but if you fail to adjust them when they need it you'll have the gaps tighten and burn out valves and maybe ruin the cylinder heads. That'll cost you more than 750 dollars right? Just because a few noobs on facebook say something doesn't mean they know more than the engineers who built the bike.

[@mickeymouse4897]

You state what Honda recommend as a service interval, then you state " You don't really need to do it" then state that you're not telling people what to do ... listen to what u say in the edit ... One word " Contradiction" ... Yes VFR V-tec is shit, we all know that, yes it's a gimic, yes it doesn't provide anymore BHP (Fact) ... Yes the system needs a regular inspection ... Yes it's a pain in the arse ... Yes it's easy to do ... Yes its expensive if a shop does the work & the V-tec valves are out of spec ... simple answer is sell the crappy 6th Gen & buy a proper VFR a 5th Gen.

[@Fee.1]

Never buy a junk motor off eBay with questionable mileage and history. They all claim low mileage. Reality is nobody has a clue usually. Always fix a well cared for motor if possible

[@SatansSpatula]

I adjusted the valves and synched the carburetors on my old VFR-750 at around 28k miles. It went from being a peppy bike to pulling surprise wheelies in second gear.You don't HAVE to adjust the valves, but if you want the best performance, mileage, and engine longevity, you should do it. On the 750, it's a PITA mostly because you have to pull the entire exhaust. Still worth it. Find a reputable, independent shop instead of calling dealerships.

[@heirpin]

I did 95k on my 2002 vtec and the valves weren't checked, in the end I reckoned the camchains were shot so I changed the engine for a 1200 miler that only cost £350

[@PC-uh6hk]

I'd never buy a bike from you since you admit to running the machine into the ground without proper maintenance. The benefits to adjusting valve clearance is a better breathing and more powerful and economical engine.

[@SuperSneakySteve]

This is why I don't buy used bikes with a lot of miles. Noobs don't take care of them.

[@robsonenduro3316]

unfortunately you're a noob obviously....

[@enlightenedidiot9552]

Theres an exception to every rule. Honda is that exception...

[@bigpapa8152]

SNAKE'S aNIGER Yeah, ok. The exception to the rule is Yamaha. They have the longest valve clearance check interval of all bike makers, by a lot.

[@roundingcorners]

$700 a year or 1.5 years is peanuts. I have 75k miles on my '08 FZ1. Valves done at every mfr recommended inspection.

[@lonnieleyden8527]

I have a 2008 VFR with 90k miles. Didnt even check my valves till 55k miles when they started to make a little noise. Ordered the pucks to engage the vtec valves and did the job myself. Almost all vtec valves were out of spec on the tight side and had to order new shimmed buckets. But still runs great at 90k and I truly think 6th gen VFR is one of the best bikes ever made for all around sport touring. Super comfy to get you the twistys where it will hang with most sport bikes. Oh yeah and thank you to whoever made this video but staying in low RPM outside of VTEC? Man this bike seriously comes alive over 6400RPM. I live there.

[@ryanhack5]

I'm just here for that Dyno sheet. That is absolutely wrong. They didn't do something correct on the settings

[@NamesRjayz]

Was there a time where he said vtec without following it up with y’all, so cringe

[@Jaden-up3bg]

He said 'yo'👍

[@andrewmckenna2748]

my thinking exactly,that many dodgy mechanics i couldnt tell if the valves were done or not.

[@demetricklouis5710]

The VFR800 is one of my dream bikes. I have I CBR600rr which is cool but for the long rides I can get painful.

[@willh.2510]

72K on my gen 5 before getting hit, but never had one issue, and it was a commuter M-F and a 600 killer on Saturdays only!!!

[@NickMasseyRideon]

I found you because I am looking at a VFR800 as a replacement bike for a Nuda I wrote off. Great Video. I grew up in mass and its nice to see the footage of home as I live overseas now. Subscribed!

[@fasthandsz]

I’d go crazy if I wouldn’t be able to lane split

[@Desmodromic916]

Dragon Nea i know that fella cool guy

[@Josieman543]

I just bought this gen. The vtec is kind of annoying

[@Hugovmonteiro]

It seems to me that it is more cheap, and fun too, for you to learn how to do it. It doesn't seem too much complicated from the videos I've seen, if you are a DIY inclined kind of person. P.S. New subscriber by the way! Keep the videos coming! Cheers!

[@V4Rider]

One of the best engines ever.. I don´t worry about valves either. VFRs run for life with just the normal maintenance ;)

[@alex-thangnguyen2746]

Once you ride a V4, there is no going back; if inline 4s are more powerful. If you are like me and use 87 cheap gas, then you run the risk of fouling up your valves. But if the bike starts up and idles properly, then don't mess with the engine. Don't quote me on it, but 60,000 miles without a valve check is no problem. I would recommend an upper head rebuild to change your oil seals and maybe put fresh valves in if you use cheap gas. Btw, even the 500cc V4s were pure enjoyment; nearly perfect on reliability even if I changed the oil every 11,000 miles when I was a teen. Worry about the valve clearance when you rebuild the engine or when you get the upper head rebuilt; which will turn the VFR into a brand new bike again.

[@spinnanz]

My 88 vfr400, which lives in the higher rev range compared to the 800, has never had the valves done. It's done 100,000km now.

[@fyaworx]

Yup, had one of those 100k kms no 8issues

[@Blue-moon12]

Looked like a Triumph TR6. Triumph made cars back in the day. TR7, TR8, Stag, TR6, Dolomite

[@PartialS]

I'd say TR6 too :) My dad had a Dolomite Sprint back in the day. One of the first production cars with a 16 valve head. Lovely thing. Pity it wasn't made very well and terminally blew head gaskets...

[@PicosPaul1979]

"its a triumph, i didn't know they made cars" lolololololol

[@eliasun6641]

I love the song

[@illeodavinci]

Hey there, i have been suscribed a while now and i also own a VFR 800. 2003, it has 59000 km (i live in Italy), i have done the mods ecc and at low rpm it has gotten a lot better. How many miles do you recomend oil and oil filter changing? Because recently i am hearing a tocking in the motor when its warm, and i am scared that it could be the CAM chain! IFF you have any advice it would be apreciated ..great vids thanx

[@HeroRR]

That's definitely the cam chain tensioner. It's a normal issue in our bikes around the mileage you have. There are a lot of guides on how to do it and it's not too expensive. So no worries ;)

[@joeysimunds6352]

Thats a TR6, hella cool.

[@teokastelan2930]

I would check the valves on 50.000km it is a time consuming but the valves are not the problem. First Honda VTEC vfr 800 has an issue with the tensioners. So you should check that. If you want to keep the bike for a long time or If you see any cracks or something suspicious my advice is to change them. Once you do that, you have no worries.

[@shnarklevonbarkle110]

Years ago I had a Honda 750F super sport which ran perfectly until it needed a valve job. Afterwards, I would meticulously measure the valve clearance, and order replacement valve shims until I had a paper grocery bag full of them just in case I could use one of them again. I seriously doubt there are any Honda dealers who will do a valve inspection or adjustment today for less than $1,500.00. I also suspect that if there's any VFR that can do 150k miles without a valve adjustment it is going to be one with a gear driven cam. Then again, if the bike is only using half of the valves most of the time, perhaps only half of the valves will need to be replaced. Even at $1,500.00, I'd probably have them inspected and/or adjusted after 50k miles, THEN I'd see if I could get another 100k I've been wanting to get a 98-01 VFR800 for a while, but after watching this video I might opt for something newer.

[@YNTGUNS]

This video is grrrrreat quality. Now as for the valves you dont have to get them done but when u do hit around 20k miles and u get the valves adjusted u will feel a difference in power, cold startups and just the overall idle of the engine. Great vid brro!!!

[@shaneweightman]

That Triumph spitfire was made yrs ago at a factory , 5 miles away from were I live , different company to Triumph motorcycle s , standard Triumph the company was called cheers Shane uk

[@exoneratefate4734]

Well, technically, if youre not using the roads for commercial purposes, or operating a means of conveyance, you can. Regardless of what the law says. Merica

[@mikecronis]

Your "ah'gument" is valid, but to maintain proper engineering specs and great gas mileage, have the valves checked and adjusted. A Honda Civic from the '90s might survive 500k miles with no maintenance except oil changes but you beat it to hell and back. If you love her, you'll take care of her. Just like any North Boston girl, she's trashy, but she's got your back in a fight. Get your valves checked and drink a Moxie.

[@theinsanityunleashed]

It really sounds like you're making excuses. For every guy you read about that didn't need his valves adjusted until 90k miles, there are probably hundreds of others that did need their valves adjusted at 30k that you never heard of. Sure, if you get to 100k without having to do it you'll be happy with your purchase. But what if they are already out of spec and you burn a valve next month? I don't see the problem. Just learn to do the job properly and you'll have no worries or problems. It's not even that hard of a job to do.

[@wightwalker2453]

Crap that bikes can't filter there - that's one of the joys of biking. I say just do it and everyone will expect it. In the UK you get the occasional driver who will block you or worse ( sometimes their mirrors just fall off) but generally if you got at a reasonable speed no more than 20 mph no one more mind regardless of the law. Very unlikely that the valves will need adjusting on the vfr800 unless its ragged constantly. Honda won't even bother unless it sounds rough which yours doesn't. It's about making dealers money. Triumph tr6, great British (karmen designed) car of the 70s. If your vfr800 is misfiring or running rough change the regulator rectifier, battery and stator and hey presto fixed.

[@sugarrfree]

Talk rubbish. Av done valve adjustment just be4 hitting 30,000 miles. Paid £250 And 3 of them needed adjustment. So sayin that theres no need for it its talking pish. Are u going to change the timming ever? Did u remove the db killers from yer exhaust?

[@HeroRR]

Nope, not going to do anything besides oil changes, chain cleanings and other regular maintenance items. Valve cover will stay on until the cam chain tensioner eventually goes, other than that no timing or valve adjustments for me. We'll see how far I get but I have a funny feeling everything will be okay.

[@sugarrfree]

With yer style of riding this bike am pretty sure its going to b all good with it. when i hit 30k miles i could hear my chain tensioner. Bought 2 manuals on ebay for 55quid. They need to b adjusted every 10k kilometers. When i bought mine vfr i changed spark plugs, dot 4 in clutch and brakes, coolant, new filter and oil. Vfr its ma first bike and i absolutely love it. Like yer channel as well. Keep u good work mate.

[@veightrwd8828]

How do you remove the dB killers?

[@sugarrfree]

Veight Rwd88 2 bolts/screws on the top of the cans

[@deyaxkrma]

@@HeroRR how much did you get out of that motor afterall??

[@azn_1050]

I don't know a lot about bike engines. Let's say I rode this bike for about 80.000 miles. Then had the valves checked, how many miles would that buy me? Another 80k? 50k? Or doesn't it actually improve it like that.

[@HRIDigital]

100k miles on an 02. Valve check? What's that? Never done it. It's a honda engine for heaven's sake. It's like buying a tiffany diamond and then visiting your local jewelry shop to check that it still refracts light.

[@cccenturion4480]

If the valves aren't ticking they are good to go. If it costs $750 to have them checked and adjusted every 16k, why not consider running it til it dies. You can then buy a low mileage salvage engine for less than $1500. But each to their own. If the bike lasts til 100k then that's 6X valve checks at $750=$4500. How much is a replacement bike?

[@chuckb337]

Who we need to hear from is Honda mechanics..how many times does the VFR actually need adjustment when they have to do it.? And if they owned it, what would they do? No one here says there bike actually had it done. Tight valves is the only danger. Valves don't get looser,and is preferred.They are set loose in anticipation of tightening w/ mileage.

[@pauloshea3741]

Proper throttle body synchronization ( A quiet and smooth idle) is only possible when all valves are correctly adjusted. Incorrect valve clearances also affect valve timing, which in turn affects engine performance. With a tighter clearance the valve opens "Earlier" and closes "later" affecting the cylinder charge, the opposite happens when the clearances are too big, the valve opens too "late" and closes too "early". Honda Europe recommends checking valves at 24tkm, If your bike has been well serviced with regular fresh oil changes 3-5tkm, and you don't drive the nuts out of it when cold, then 50tkm shouldn't be a problem. In the workshop we use a Souriau Indiana 2440 Digital Inlet Analyser, which shows vacuum depression curves of each cylinder. By interpreting these curves it is possible to identify induction leaks, faults with inlet and exhaust valves, or related faults such as camshaft lobe wear etc. Find a good bike shop which has a digital vacuum inlet analyser have your throttle bodies syncronised and any other faults will show up. That's about the cheapest and quickest way to have piece of mind without paying for 8 workshop hours to find out the valve clearances were fine and you didn't need to go to the expense. Greetings from a qualified Honda mechanic.

[@vtecshepherd]

I did my 02 last year at 42000 miles. I had one VTEC valve at the bottom of spec at .005" none of the other valves were out of spec. Threw it back together and it runs great and will probably continue to do so. Also changed the CCT's and synced my starter valves. It was a pain in the ass but piece of mind is nice.

[@paladin44]

i watched another video and my consensus- if you can do shim under bucket valve adjustments, you can do a vtec vfr valve adjustment. its just a pain in the ass.

[@Lancaster604]

The thing about large displacement VFR800 bikes is you are cruising around town at 4000rpm. Meanwhile smaller displacement 300 bikes are shifting like a spas at 7000rpm just to keep up with traffic. For those bikes that just tach up and down, you really do need valve adjustments.

[@ekitching]

I wouldn't adjust valves on any bike unless they make noise. When I brought my 2002 VFR in for an oil change the shop wanted to adjust the valves, I said no way. BTW, never use a K&N oil filter, I had one fail on me. I got lucky, it happened when I parked the bike after getting off the freeway!

[@kenpinchak9913]

Looking at a 2006 VFR with 25K miles but the valve clearance has not been checked. Should this be a concern? Asking price is $3400. Add has a photo of the bike in Alaska.

[@themotorcyclecoach]

Valves occasionally need checking. Some people do 100k without a check but that doesn’t mean that their bike is running well. I think 16,000 is too low, I’d generally wait until around 40,000 miles before checking. I bought a vfr (pre-vtec) with 42k on the clock. Checked the clearances and quite a few were out of spec. Oh, and just because you don’t thrash your bike, doesn’t mean it’s any less likely to need shins adjusting. If anything, it’s the other way round. www.shiny-side-up.net/2016/01/31/how2-vfr-valve-clearance-check-and-adjustment/

[@sleeper.simulant7327]

Of all places CA filtering is completely legal, but somehow isn’t here in the northeast? Makes no sense lol

[@Agislife1960]

In California where it's legal, they call it lane splitting or splitting lanes, plus you can find numerous VFR's owners with 20K to 30K miles on them and the valves have never been touched, try that with a Ducati.

[@skyeric875]

Got a 2002, Thought about doing it and I had the same exact thoughts as you. Bought the bike for 3k with 6.5k miles. Now have 12k in a year and thought why would I spend that money when I can just put it towards my new(er) bike fund. Some people aren't logical or economical...

[@weedtastic]

Too bad you don't have Tappet adjusters like my NT650, takes me 45 minutes to check and adjust, and the Hawk is a 100,000 mile engine. I just crossed 75,000 and still have high compression.

[@malteygo84]

Fuck i want a vfr so bad

[@HeroRR]

GET ONE!

[@malteygo84]

HEROrr cant cz my current license only allows for 125cc haha. still got a few years to go until ill have my unrestricted one :D my Duke will do in the meantime..

[@HeroRR]

That stinks, Oh well, as long as you're able to ride that's the important thing.

[@malteygo84]

HEROrr Sure is :D

[@throwaway3893]

I bought a vfr 400 nc21 not too long ago cause they're fairly cheap to buy right now. That'll change soon though...

[@petequinones3454]

Chances are the valves won't ever be a problem. But if you know how to turn some wrenches and know how to use a set of feeler gauges it's absolutely can be done by yourself. If you follow the right procedure from the service manual and are confident in your abilities it's really not that complicated. Nobody should attempt if you don't have the money to have some clean up your mess if you accidentally screw things up. The only reason to do them in the first place is to have peace of mind, chances are they're fine to begin with. Of course you can't tell until pull the valve cover and start checking your clearances. It's a Honda so it's most likely fine. 🏍️

[@pawelaffek]

Rok temu robiłem zawory w tym motocyklu. Procedura jest dosyć złożona i skomplikowana w porównaniu do innych motocykli. Jednak da się to zrobić, niestety dużo czasu serwis pochłania. Jest dużo rozbieranka i rozkręcania, gdyż wszystkiego jest razy dwa, czyli cylindry, głowice, walki, łańcuszki itp

[@peterflannery3592]

i had vfr 750 1995 model in 37 years I've riding out of 24 bikes it is best i have ever owned

[@izatizatruachhakodesh3069]

I like your video but VTEC doesn't make sense. Because if I want to go fast I twist the throttle more and if I want to go slow less. VTEC is more weight on the valve train . Additional maintenance , complications. HONDA should have added an additional 10hp - 15hp to the tour . Too make up for it's weight, that would have brought out the sport characteristics of the bike. But it's still a great bike. I love the 6th generation. I'm trying to buy the anniversary edition model right now.

[@kester135]

My 06 varadero 125 is at 200k, this is a 125 thats been ragged to shit and when I checked the valve clearance before selling it they were perfect, my uncle has it now and it still runs :) Always been tempted to get another one

[@propellerhead9197]

The factory recommends a valve check every 12k on my Triumph. I don't ride very hard. The dealer told me it was ok to ride the machine past the recommended 12k if it isn't ticking. I keep the oil clean and all the fluids flushed like brake fluid. I had a Kawasaki 1000. Same deal, it ran forever no problems.So I agree , If your not ringing it's neck everyday then your fine. If you start to hear a valve tick, usually after a cold start then you should check the valve clearances. The dealer makes a lot of money on people bringing their bikes in for maintenance and I'll bet they don't even do the work half the time. If it ain't broke don't fix it.

[@seamusodublin966]

Maybe first you should learn how to drive in the left side of the lane before you try thinking of trying anything as advanced as lane filtering.

[@kodypagel9167]

I have a 99 VFR without VTEC and the valves are starting to make some noise. Around 64,000 miles so my bike almost got there before a noise haha.

[@GrantSBrown]

lol you can pick up an engine for like 500=800 so just put an engine in every 100,000 haha the Vtec is sick always time it to come in mid way through an overtake lol

[@jakemuntja]

Hey I got a full Delkevic system for my Er6-f, aka ninja 650 in us. Can't wait to get it on but they missed two parts out the box so can't put it on yet😂😂😂😫😫😫😫😫

[@corombb]

"Who ever reaches 100k miles?" I bought my '09 F650GS with 23k miles in Nov '17 and right now I'm at 70k :)

[@dazsyvo8499]

Why do the valves mines done 60000miles still good on a gen 5 you can get a engine for peanuts full power and all valves on the gen 5 all the time 😁

[@jevs8188]

I guess this is the kind of things you get into consideration for really long trips. otherwise fuck it

[@ДэвидБлейн-к5п]

vtec unnecessary shit, vfr800 98-01 easier and more reliable

[@enlightenedidiot9552]

My 91 has nearly 50k. Got serviced at 12k at dealership, was told valves within spec. Never checked again :) My 05 has under 13k...so maybe i wait until 24k+ at minimum, and thanks for the vfrness video :)

[@harychi3817]

Yea u re right..just ride it til it die..if it run good,just go!dont mess with the valves...