Hello from Naples, Florida. Love, love the Castle! The torture artifacts were interesting, LOL. Love, love the moat. We enjoyed the tour. Thank you for sharing with us, have a great weekend. 👍💯
@MagentaOtterTravels9 ай бұрын
Thanks so much for coming along! Hever really is a remarkable castle. Lovely moat, beautiful gardens, and incredible history!! Cheers from Texas! Dara
@britainonabudget9 ай бұрын
We had a trip planned to visit Hever back in 2018 because my friend loves Anne Boleyn. Unfortunately it was closed at the time we were able to go. Your excellent video has got me excited to try to get over there!
@MagentaOtterTravels9 ай бұрын
Why was it closed? Private event? Yes, you would love Hever, Leeds, and Penshurst! All are previous homes of three different wives of Henry the eighth. I decided to do each of them on a Friday in a row... this Friday is the last one.
@britainonabudget9 ай бұрын
@@MagentaOtterTravels It was the off season (of course haha!) and they were closed except for the weekend and of course the days I had scheduled to be there were mid week. I’m thinking I might have to include a castle tour of the southeast in my 2025 trip!!!
@MagentaOtterTravels9 ай бұрын
@@britainonabudget oh yeah! You are the reason we went to Arundel. It would not be fair for you to not get to see it as well!
@ItsArtByDonna9 ай бұрын
WOWOW Dara and Ian...I love the stories of Anne Boleyn and Catherine of Aragon and have watched and read numerous movies, books and documentaries on them...and Henry the Eighth...the history has always fascinated me...this was a wonderful video, well done and so much fun at the end with all the mazes and beautiful flower garden...the fountain could have used a tissue for his runny nose🤣 and maybe an umbrella for Ian in the maze! Lots of fun...beautiful Castle owned by the Astors...I couldn't imagine hosting all those people who worked for him...what an undertaking!
@MagentaOtterTravels9 ай бұрын
Thanks so much for watching, Donna! Since you are interested in Henry the eighth and his wives, I'm glad you saw this video 😉. Cheers! Dara
@da90sReAlvloc9 ай бұрын
We've got some amazing history in our country, Romans, vikings, normans , Tudors, Boudicca, nelson , air Francis Drake, Churchill, Queen victoria, .great to see wonderful people enjoying our history. Usually we're told. By news. And government that we shouldn't be proud of our history , Great video Dara Some of the scenery you film and how you get the shots , you have a artistic side you can appreciate how wonderful our country is, Great video. You and Ian stay safe 👍
@MagentaOtterTravels9 ай бұрын
Thanks so much, Dave! That is very kind of you to say. History is complicated... always different perspectives at play. But it is interesting to learn from the mistakes of the past, so important that we remember the successes and failures of prior generations.
@rhondafoy80099 ай бұрын
Oh I loved Hever Castle, can t wait to go back there
@MagentaOtterTravels9 ай бұрын
It is such an interesting place to visit! We may be returning this summer with our American friends who we are bringing to Kent ;-)
@theresabigwideworld26329 ай бұрын
That a fabulous castle and terrific that the Astors were wealthy enough to spend money on making it very liveable 😃 The gardens are a great example of why I love visiting the UK during the early summer months, they were gorgeous!
@MagentaOtterTravels9 ай бұрын
Yes, I was so impressed with those gardens! The castle was fascinating, and had such interesting history. It was icing on the cake to have such well laid out and maintained gardens as well!
@DaveCollierCamping9 ай бұрын
If the walls could talk. Awesome video
@MagentaOtterTravels9 ай бұрын
Thanks Dave! Yes, LOTS of interesting stories have happened in those walls of Hever!
@lisahammond12089 ай бұрын
I was there in the Fall of 2022 and it was lovely to watch the video to bring it all back! I took the woodland trail for a while before getting soaked through and heading back. Almost my favorite part was the mile walk from the quaint train station! Ahhh, thank you for the memories. :)
@MagentaOtterTravels9 ай бұрын
That sounds like a lovely (and memorable!) visit... I'm glad I could help you revisit it 🥰
@WITYTRAVELS9 ай бұрын
That is a magical walkway! IAN be careful on the water maze lol.
@MagentaOtterTravels9 ай бұрын
It was fun watching Ian attempt the water maze! I was glad I didn't try it 🤣
@TravelingTramps9 ай бұрын
We enjoyed seeing Hever Castle and hearing about it's history. It's great that it was brought back to life and preserved for future generations, by Mr. Astor a man with the means to be able to do it. Also enjoyed the history about the Boleyn family. I didn't know much of it other than the general sad story of Anne and Catherine, Henry's first wife. The castle was stunning and the gardens lovely. I enjoyed seeing the torture and execution devices. Again perhaps in poor taste, but that is history.Thanks for bringing us along, Dara and Ian.
@TravelingTramps9 ай бұрын
"do something good in the World today." I'm looking at a bag hanging up that says that very thing that! It just arrived yesterday. Curious. 😁😁 It will come in handy for Kathy's personal care items when we travel. So much has to be brought along and our old one was pretty small. This one is much bigger and will carry it better. Thanks! The other package or packages haven't yet arrived, but I'm sure will soon.
@MagentaOtterTravels9 ай бұрын
I find it SO interesting that last week's Leeds Castle (Henry the 8th's first wife lived there) as well as this castle (of his 2nd wife) were both saved and preserved thanks to wealthy Americans!! Thanks for joining us on this visit again, Dave and Kathy!
@WITYTRAVELS9 ай бұрын
Fascinating history lesson!
@AlphaTraveler19 ай бұрын
That is so beautiful. I am surprised they are able to keep it up. Amazing. 👍👍👍
@MagentaOtterTravels9 ай бұрын
Thank goodness for a wealthy American who left a rather large trust to keep the castle preserved. Also, of course, everyone who buys tickets to go visit helps preserve it as well 😉
@TravelingTramps9 ай бұрын
The magenta flowers may have been a perfect welcome. But the pubs name may be in poor taste with it location! Watching now, Dara and Ian.
@MagentaOtterTravels9 ай бұрын
Thanks so much, Dave! I don't know how you do it watching so many videos for all your friends! You are the bestest most supportive friend! Sending love to you and Kathy! XX Dara (and Ian)
@nafex37409 ай бұрын
Success always, all the BEST❤
@gerrymccartney35619 ай бұрын
Great guided tour. I especially liked your tongue in cheek remark about the Long Gallery being used on the rare occasions when the weather outside was inclement.
@MagentaOtterTravels9 ай бұрын
Hee hee, I was wondering if anyone would notice that! And a few of you have. Well done! Do you think that sarcastic British humour is rubbing off on me? 🤣
@gerrymccartney35619 ай бұрын
@@MagentaOtterTravels Yes, I do.
@lizbignell78139 ай бұрын
What glorious gardens.
@MagentaOtterTravels9 ай бұрын
They exceeded my expectations! So well done! 🪻🌸🌼
@lizbignell78139 ай бұрын
I am not a gardener myself but can appreciate others skill and dedication to create such beauty.
@johnadey36969 ай бұрын
Thanks for another Great video!
@MagentaOtterTravels9 ай бұрын
Thank YOU! This was a devil to edit... but I loved all the history in the castle and the beauty of the gardens!! Cheers! Dara
@wencireone9 ай бұрын
Our weather is always perfect, it's just our timing forgoing out 😉
@MagentaOtterTravels9 ай бұрын
That must be why "not going out" is such a popular TV programme!
@ruthgoebel7239 ай бұрын
What a fantastic tour of Hever! Those gardens were spectacular and so unique. Definitely on my ever-growing bucket list.
@MagentaOtterTravels9 ай бұрын
Kent and Sussex is packed with historic heavy hitters... definitely a great place to spend time when you next cross the pond! 🩷🏴
@andrewdoubtfire47009 ай бұрын
Well done - I think you did Hever fair justice with this vlog.
@MagentaOtterTravels9 ай бұрын
Thanks! That's high praise 🤗
@IamaDutch-Kiwi9 ай бұрын
Oh seeing those ducklings- it's almost duckling time again Dara. This reminds me how close to spring we are. 👌🦆🦆🦆
@MagentaOtterTravels9 ай бұрын
Yay! 🐣🌼
@wencireone9 ай бұрын
You know those walking guides you can listen too as you walk around historic places, I'm taken you with me next time 🎧
@MagentaOtterTravels9 ай бұрын
Lol, that's hilarious! If they charge you for a headset, then using my video for free could be a good deal 🤣
@wencireone9 ай бұрын
@@MagentaOtterTravels I'll just look up the appropriate video on KZbin and listen as I walk around. Literally taking you with me
@jeanlongsden16969 ай бұрын
beautiful gardens, they must employ a large number of staff there for that alone.
@MagentaOtterTravels9 ай бұрын
Indeed! They won a "best garden" award several years ago. It is very well laid out and maintained! The architectural features around it are a great frame.
@GENerationXplorers9 ай бұрын
Magenta flowers laid out for your arrival. Some very tame ducklings and massive fish! Interesting connections to the Waldorf. Lovely interiors and interesting artefacts. Wow do they still have Hever Days? Interesting historic details and fascinating how things have changed over the centuries. Very well put together tour and narration. Particularly liked the tour of the gardens in full bloom. I wonder how the Hever Rose is different from some others? Lovely Lilly pond in your colours! Wow that is some lake. Can imagine St Peter’s being very popular back in the day.👍
@MagentaOtterTravels9 ай бұрын
I did well finding lots of magenta on that garden visit 💖🌸! The ducks 🦆 were adorable! Fun to feed them from our hands. I don't think they have the Hever days as they did traditionally, but there are certainly lots of special events at Hever these days. It's a great place to visit! Thanks for coming along! I'm currently on a road trip to Austin Texas... but I'm looking forward to catching up with your stormy goths later! ⛈️☠️🖤
@GENerationXplorers9 ай бұрын
@@MagentaOtterTravelsthanks Dara, have a wonderful road trip
@f3aok9 ай бұрын
You surpassed yourself with this video. So interesting. As good as anything on msm imo.
@MagentaOtterTravels9 ай бұрын
Wow, thank you so much! Very kind of you to say. Hever was a fascinating place to visit. Loved it!
@mattb67043 ай бұрын
As an English person, I’m really enjoying your videos :-) X
@MagentaOtterTravels3 ай бұрын
@@mattb6704 oh, I'm so glad! Thank you so much for your support!🙏 I appreciate you watching my videos and taking the time to leave a comment. Cheers! Dara
@PostcardAndAPint9 ай бұрын
Kent is duckling central!! They were so tame. We need to visit this castle. It's beautiful. The recent history is as fascinating as the older stuff. What a brilliant exhibition of Anne and Catherine. The gardens are beautiful. What a lovely visit. Oo we've never seen a water maze! Cool. 🍻
@MagentaOtterTravels9 ай бұрын
The water maze would be brill on a hot day! I can see the footage Rach would film whilst Wills was having a go navigating it ;-) Feeding the ducks was very fun. Glad we had our healthy seeds for them! Yes, I'm so thankful that some wealthy Americans saved both Hever and Leeds castles... they have fascinating history from medieval times as well as last century! Thanks for watching! XX Dara
@IamaDutch-Kiwi9 ай бұрын
The British historical events, intrigue, injustice and righteousness are legendary. The books and films about the lives and times of yesteryear are riveting and horrific as they are interesting. Your road trip contains lots of valuable lesson material bringing the past in a most easy to watch and learn to understand more about the English history.and about those who lived it. Loved this venture into history with you Dara and Ian. 🌺🇳🇱🙋♀🇳🇿 🩷
@MagentaOtterTravels9 ай бұрын
Thanks so much Anita! We are currently on a wee road trip in Texas 😉🤘
@davidcoan48999 ай бұрын
We have stayed at Hever and eaten at the King Henry pub , great video
@MagentaOtterTravels9 ай бұрын
Hopefully you ordered better than I did... and your food was tastier! How was it? It is certainly very convenient!!
@davidcoan48999 ай бұрын
@@MagentaOtterTravels the pub food was excellent , but it was 7-8 years ago. Your video makes me want to go back to Hever castle asap. 👍
@MagentaOtterTravels9 ай бұрын
@@davidcoan4899 i'm glad! It really is such an interesting and beautiful place to visit.
@The_Brit_Girls9 ай бұрын
Hi Dara & Ian, this is another castle that I desperately want to visit! You did a wonderful job of relaying the story of Anne Boleyn. I also enjoyed learning about the more recent history of the castle. I loved the glorious gardens and it was very cool that they had their own Hever Castle Rose ❤🌹The water maze was very unique - what a fun idea! Great vlog, as always 💕
@MagentaOtterTravels9 ай бұрын
When your granddaughter is a few years older, that would be a fun place to take her! Leeds castle as well. I really think it's great to be able to visit both of them, since they touch on different parts of Henry the eighth's history and two different wives. But they were both saved by wealthy Americans! Isn't that fascinating?
@The_Brit_Girls9 ай бұрын
Hooray for wealthy Americans is what I say! ❤👍😁@@MagentaOtterTravels
@MagentaOtterTravels9 ай бұрын
@@The_Brit_Girls Amen, sister! 🤑🇺🇸🇬🇧
@iankelly53879 ай бұрын
Dara, this is a brilliant video telling me, a Brit, things I actually didn't really know. The Royals....are not my favourite family IMHO😐 We will find out why sometime soon! All your videos are just brilliant. Honestly, you're the best KZbin channel I follow
@MagentaOtterTravels9 ай бұрын
Thanks so much! That's so lovely to read a comment like that 🥰! As for the royals... there's always so much drama. I don't follow their updates closely, and I don't take sides. I was very interested to learn about Queen Victoria's life... she was fascinating to me.
@Nick_r9 ай бұрын
Another good one guys, well done. You’re doing a grand job of showing what Sussex and Kent have to offer. We don’t get the volume of USA tourists the Cotswolds get but it’s equally as attractive with a different style. Still gets pretty busy in the summer though as it’s so close to London.
@MagentaOtterTravels9 ай бұрын
Yes, The Weald is lucky to not be overrun with tourists. But between the proximity to London and the enormously rich history of the area, I highly recommend people visit Sussex and Kent!
@Nick_r9 ай бұрын
@@MagentaOtterTravels We do get a lot of tourists in the summer but mostly Brits after the coast and Beaches but not the Weald. Also get a reasonable number of tourists from Europe but not massive amount. Oddly we get large amount of tourists from the far east to the Seven Sisters cliffs. Mainly Japanese and South Korean, the cliffs seem to have some major significance for the but blowed if I know what it is.
@MagentaOtterTravels9 ай бұрын
@@Nick_r it's always interesting when some guidebook or some celebrity or prominent person raves about a certain place to visit. Then everyone from that country shows up to visit there! Lol
@theresabigwideworld26329 ай бұрын
I'm probably the only person that would notice but the picture at 3.57 isn't the future King George VI but his younger brother Prince George. When Edward VIII abdicated his brother Albert decided to go with one of his other names (royals tend to have a string of them) and to try and bring stability to as he put it 'a rocking throne' he decided to be known as George VI, following his father George V who had been king for 25 years. Prince George (Duke of Kent) married Princess Marina of Greece, she was a bit of a snob and referred to her sisters in law Elizabeth Bowes Lyon and Lady Alice Scott 'those common scotch girls'. Marina was a princess, a poor one though, Lady Alice's father the Duke of Buccleuch was one of the richest men in the UK!
@MagentaOtterTravels9 ай бұрын
I'm sorry, I tried really hard to get all the photos correct! Thanks for setting the record straight 🥹
@IamaDutch-Kiwi9 ай бұрын
Loving the castles Dara. I know you love castles with a moat best- but which castle 'tugged' at your heartstrings the most? Asking for a friend ☺!
@MagentaOtterTravels9 ай бұрын
I do think Arundel was our favourite... but it was a tough contest!!
@WITYTRAVELS9 ай бұрын
Ducks are cute until they bite you!! 🦆
@MagentaOtterTravels9 ай бұрын
Thankfully, they don't have teeth! It was just a wee peck 😉
@ShaneNixonFamily9 ай бұрын
For the record Cate Blanchett is the best Elizabeth. And she should've won the Oscar over Gwyneth. 😂 Speaking of tele, I should watch The Tudors and see how much it deviates from this already fascinating history. Love a good historical drama. We're halfway through The Last Kingdom at the moment - Saxons vs the Vikings. Another fascinating period. But this castle and its history is amazing. I was hoping the water maze meant you had wade waist deep through some marshes, but alas, it was not to be. Although I was tickled to see Ian trying to avoid being squirted.
@MagentaOtterTravels9 ай бұрын
Yes, it made me giggle watching and trying to dodge all the squirting water jets as well! I agree with you about Cate Blanchett playing Elizabeth. She was amazing!🏆
@jillybrooke299 ай бұрын
I'm related to Mary Boleyn, Anne's sister and the Careys, love Hever ....visited a few times 😊
@MagentaOtterTravels9 ай бұрын
Oh wow! I love hearing from folks with personal connections to the places we visit!! Mary looked like a beauty... from the painting I saw anyway. Too bad she didn't drive a hard bargain like her sister Anne did ;-) Hever is a lovely place to visit! Cheers! XX Dara
@jillybrooke299 ай бұрын
We loved the Italian gardens and the lake
@MagentaOtterTravels9 ай бұрын
@@jillybrooke29 yes, they took my breath away!
@Poliss959 ай бұрын
The place looks stunning. Excellent videography and narration.👍 Well, until the snot fountain that is. 😂 For someone who doesn't like history you seem to like history. 😁 From 'foul water' to 'water fowl' you might say. 🤣🤣 A maze that ambushes you! 😲 Never seen anything like that before. Not impressed by the King VIII pub food? Was it the type of place where if you ordered a Waldorf Salad they'd say they were out of Waldorf's? 😁😁 I was watching a 1963 documentary on the National Trust. One of the places they showed was Knole in Kent. It looks like just the kind of place you would love. You didn't happen to pop in there when you were in Kent did you?
@MagentaOtterTravels9 ай бұрын
Sorry for my sophomoric sense of humour... I couldn't resist commenting on the spitting fountain and the snot fountain! Yes, I noticed that water "foul" pun when I was editing... but not when I was babbling extemporaneously in the castle ;-) No we didn't visit Knole. But we might be going back this summer... maybe we try again? I actually had an AMAZING Waldorf salad at the Queens Hotel in Cheltenham. They SHOULD have Waldorf salad at this pub given the Astor connection to Hever. LOL ... No, the food was just not that yummy. I knew the video would be long so I just skipped the whole lunch part of the vlog. I only want to recommend yummy places!
@wencireone9 ай бұрын
I just wanted to shout "Stop Coughing" to who ever was following you around 🤨 you're ruining a master history lesson
@chrisward83239 ай бұрын
On the rare occasion the weather isn't perfect in England 😂 turning into quite a comedian these days.
@MagentaOtterTravels9 ай бұрын
Hee hee you noticed my subtle sarcastic British sense of humour ;-)
@theresabigwideworld26329 ай бұрын
A fun movie about the Boleyn sisters is 'The Other Boleyn Girl' a fictionalised version of Mary's story. Apparently not exactly historically accurate but great locations and costumes.
@MagentaOtterTravels9 ай бұрын
Sounds interesting! Such drama in the court back then 😳
@MagentaOtterTravels9 ай бұрын
Anna, I just had to come back and comment again on your comment because I'm editing my video for this coming Friday and it is in a filming location for The Other Boleyn Girl. And they show costumes from the production! So you will have to watch my video of Penshurst place 😉👍
@FloridaFlipFlops9 ай бұрын
Like 164 👍 💯 ❤
@jennycarter11496 ай бұрын
Thanks for the tour. Some of the photos of royalty didnt coincide with the names you were quoting, but thats ok😊 enjoyed it all anyway.
@MagentaOtterTravels6 ай бұрын
Sorry about that! I try my best 😉
@ceeeemdeedees74962 ай бұрын
The picture you chose of “the future George VI” was his bother Prince George.Duke of Kent. And the pick of the future Elizabeth Ii is her sister, Princess Margaret. When Lady Elizabeth and Prince Albert married in 1923, no one foresaw him becoming King as his older brother was first in line.
@MagentaOtterTravels2 ай бұрын
@@ceeeemdeedees7496 I am very sorry if I mislabeled pictures! I'm a perfectionist, and hate it when something in my video isn't accurate! But rest assured I'm doing my level best to avoid such errors 😩. Thanks for watching the video and noting the discrepancies. Cheers! Dara
@ceeeemdeedees74962 ай бұрын
No worries! I was just sharing info. Enjoyed the video very much. Very interesting to learn about the Astor connection. Apologies if the “tone” read otherwise. ❤️
@griswald71569 ай бұрын
They all wear Maid Marion frocks.. The hushed tones of the library employee is very suitable…i approve..
@MagentaOtterTravels9 ай бұрын
I don't feel like I'm whispering when I do my vlogging, but then when I get home and edit it I do sound like I'm whispering! Drives me crazy 😝
@griswald71569 ай бұрын
@@MagentaOtterTravels you dont normally….i just think you held complete reverence for the subject matter this time around… We have a music afficionado called Bob Harris…who was and is very successful,he built his career to the point of ecstasy and known to the world as “Whispering Bob Harris”…..check him out on ‘the old grey whistle test”
@wencireone9 ай бұрын
I noticed you sneaked in an editing effect in the garden
@MagentaOtterTravels9 ай бұрын
Yes I try not to overuse that... but that particular transition was a bumpy one, so I needed some flower petals to distract 🌸
@wencireone9 ай бұрын
@@MagentaOtterTravels yes, had to replay it as it's definitely not you !
@davidjones3329 ай бұрын
It's worth pointing out that when Lady Elizabeth Bowes-Lyon agreed to marry the Duke of York, she had no idea that he might become King. It is said that she never forgave his elder brother Edward VIII for, as she saw it, deserting the throne for his American floozie, and forcing her Bertie to shoulder the burden of kingship through the war years, which, for a naturally nervous character, probably shortened his life by many years.
@MagentaOtterTravels9 ай бұрын
Yes, absolutely! They did not expect him to be king!
@wencireone9 ай бұрын
That water maze is so Disney 😂
@MagentaOtterTravels9 ай бұрын
💦
@neuralwarp9 ай бұрын
3:50 Correction: Bertie wasn't born to be king, and he never became the future George VI. He succeeded upon the abdication of his brother Edward VIII.
@MagentaOtterTravels9 ай бұрын
Thanks for clarifying! Sorry if my narration was misleading
@wencireone9 ай бұрын
I guess Henry never visited the long gallery 😂
@MagentaOtterTravels9 ай бұрын
I know you're joking, but I'm actually fascinated by this topic. American, we just grow up hearing about Henry the eighth who was this big obese mean king who executed his wives. When I learned that he was actually a very athletic and handsome teenager I was astonished! It's interesting to Visit Hampton Court, Palace and see the raquet ball court (I forgot the name of the sport exactly! ) where he played so avidly before his injury that caused him to be lame the rest of his life. With that disability, plus The fact that he was king and could have whatever he wanted and eat whatever he wanted, obesity set in later in life. I read somewhere that his waist size went from 32 inches to 52 inches...
@wencireone9 ай бұрын
@@MagentaOtterTravels I was an athletic-ish teenager too, I must be related 🤣
@MagentaOtterTravels9 ай бұрын
@@wencireone I think quite a few men follow that general trajectory 😉.... i'm the opposite. Never did anything sporty as a teenager, and now that I'm pushing 60 I work out all the time! Lol
@wencireone9 ай бұрын
@@MagentaOtterTravels see ! PPIEW 🧘♀️😉🤣
@wencireone9 ай бұрын
I'd li,e to see someone play with those chess pieces ♟
@MagentaOtterTravels9 ай бұрын
Yeah! How does that work?!🤔
@wencireone9 ай бұрын
@@MagentaOtterTravels bring out the axe, " off with those roots " 🪓
@wencireone9 ай бұрын
I just wanted to shout "Stop Coughing" to whoever was following you around 🤨 you're ruining a master history class
@MagentaOtterTravels9 ай бұрын
I know! It's a wonder I didn't get Covid during that tour! I was debating recording everything over again in voiceover, but this video was already an utter nightmare to edit, and I couldn't be bothered! 🙄
@wencireone9 ай бұрын
@@MagentaOtterTravels it turned out PPIEW 👏
@MagentaOtterTravels9 ай бұрын
@@wencireone you are too kind
@wencireone9 ай бұрын
So the moat was to keep people out 🚽😬
@MagentaOtterTravels9 ай бұрын
Yes it would have kept me out! 💩
@brigidsingleton15969 ай бұрын
I thought John Joseph Astor travelled upon the RMS Titanic with his young pregnant bride...🇺🇸 (Perhaps I've mixed him up with another Astor?) 😮🏴🖖
@davidjones3329 ай бұрын
Yes, it was a different John Jacob Astor who went down in the Titanic. This was a younger relative.
@brigidsingleton15969 ай бұрын
@@davidjones332 Ah... John Jacob Astor... (R.I.P) My mistake. Thank you for the correction.