Hey Apple... Eat your heart out - Threadripper 2970WX + InWin Dubili

[@CraftComputing]

Shout out to Kevin for sending over the MSI X399 Creation motherboard and Threadripper 2970WX! Go check out his store at www.pcpartsandservices.com/

[@rmcdudmk212]

It's good to know good people. 👍

[@KamotzII]

Man, I live about 2 minutes from this place. I'm gonna have to check them out!

[@jttech44]

Heh, what a fantastic build. Also the plastic feet hurt my soul too Jeff, you're not the only one.

[@bluesquadron593]

Dang son, just checked my volumes :)

[@corombb]

Being a flatpack case I thought it'd be slightly cheaper, but $230 is similarly priced to many other high end non-flatpack EATX cases (including the preassembled version at $250). A comparably sized Phanteks Eclipse P600S costs $120-$150 depending on version and vendor. Wish it was slightly better priced, but maybe they'll come down over time.

[@AndrewWells527]

The case does look great and $320 (shipping and taxes) is a premium but acceptable price. What I can't get past though is the lack of 5 1/4" bays. I have an internal drive for ripping media and also multiple card readers for ingesting from cameras. I don't know why someone would have a giant tower and then go though the trouble of having port replicators, card readers, and other external drives cluttering up their workspace. If I were to build a non-rack server though, it would likely be this case.

[@Blustride]

Think you answered your own question. You get a big case with no 5.25” drive bays because you have big components or otherwise need a lot of space but don’t need that expansion, or need it so rarely that an external solution is fine.

[@Darkk6969]

I still use Blu-Ray drives in my main PC so if I were gonna get another case without the drive bays I may have to get an external enclosure and make use of e-sata. It's not ideal but really good cases with drive bays are getting harder to find. It's a trend these days about not having any optical drives.

[@massgrave8x]

@@Darkk6969 external enclosures work just fine over USB. no need for eSATA headaches.

[@DavidSiebert]

Well being a flat pack case it would seem to me that modding community could address a lot of this. Swap out the front panels for ones that have a few optical drive bays for people that want them, maybe print a drive cage that covers the entire front for hot swap bays for a server, or just add a bunch of drive pays that mounts to the front fan mount and the bottom fan mount for a server. I would love to see a cheaper version of this case or at least some optional parts made available for it. For example a solid panel to replace the glass. I am looking forward to see what people do with this.

[@SimisearOfficial]

11:33 YOU ARE SO REAL FOR THAT CRAFT COMPUTING, LET THEM ALL KNOW THE TRUTH

[@pyroslev]

Gorgeous case. Inwin can make some of the wackiest, mundane or prettiest cases.

[@reLi70]

As an ex-owner of several Mac Pros, I can agree with you about their build construction and aestetics: they look fantastic, and feel extremely solid to work on (also, the ~22kg weight of those machines helps with the feeling of quality). Honestly, I wouldn't compare the looks of this case to the Mac Pros: I don't find the bolts on the front and on the side visually pleasant, and the internals are just an empty space to fill in (which of course is to be expected, since this case is for standard PC components while the Mac Pros had completely custom motherboards, PSU etc, thus they could engineer the internals to optimize airflow and maintenance). I ended up selling those beautiful machines, as the ~220W idle power they required would not justify the computing power they provide (it's 12 year old stuff, after all), and built myself a pc with a Fractal Design North case, since Apple is not interested in making professional stuff that is actually usable by professionals anymore

[@fourthplanet]

the amazon link shows pictures of the case with the metal arks as feet. Always enjoy watching a good build

[@Gonzoplays]

You can build this case with the handles as the feet with no handles (upside down) or as jeff has with the plastic feet and handles on top

[@GoetheNorris]

Love the venture into cocktails!

[@SavageScientist]

I just built a custom loop in this case its on my youtube channel. I had to modify the case quite a bit and paint it. Modifying the Dubili case is easy.

[@fierce134]

As a lover of the color orange, I'm drooling over this build's colorway

[@makouille495]

i wish second hand market in France for Threadripper was as good as in the US or China ! been a while im looking for a cheapo workstation combo for 3D rendering so i can slap in my old Pascal GPUs in it and enjoy the full x16 lanes of PCIe per cards !

[@CraftComputing]

Ugh... our TR secondhand market is still pretty terrible. Motherboards especially are outrageous. $400 USD for most used TR4 boards still.

[@LtdJorge]

@@CraftComputingBro, you don’t even wanna know about the used DC hardware situation in Europe. A server + $800 USD shipping is sometimes cheaper than same server + 20€ shipping, although I’d never do that due to import problems + having to pay taxes on it at import.

[@danw1955]

Nice case, but white/silver is going to show any dust and dirt immediately. I'm still rocking my Lian Li PC-A76 (Black Monolith) full tower case from 2012, for a custom home for my gutted HP Z420 motherboard and peripherals. Personal preference I guess, but the Lian Li has loads of internal space and support for up to 12 full-size hard drives, so it works nicely for an easily expandable NAS setup.😉

[@MikeHowles]

ETH did not go “ASIC mining” as you said around the 3:15 mark. It went Proof of Stake. Still love you though Jeff.

[@BlackC5Z06]

Came to say this.

[@johngaltline9933]

well, both are true. ETH went to proof of stake, yes, but proof of stake depends on always on systems that can handle the throughput. an ASIC is the best way to handle the workload and the method employed by large stake holders that keep the chain valid.

[@ziozzot]

​@@johngaltline9933 no validators run on standard systems. you can even run them on SBCs like the rock 5b

[@LuxioTheMan]

​@@johngaltline9933 No ASICs exist for ethereum 2.0 as ASICs are specifically made to be fast at computing a certain hashing algorithm for the sake of mining. The system requirements for running an ethereum validator are quite low - you could get away with running it on a raspberry pi. We've come far ! 🤩

[@LtdJorge]

@@johngaltline9933Not only thay, but PoW is the system that kept (not in the end) the algorithm from being implemented on ASICs

[@DavidSiebert]

To fix the feet issue with that case just get some steel strips bend them into a loop. You would also have to weld and grind it flat. Aluminum would work as well. Color matching might be an issue but it could work.

[@xgansterplayz]

could you not turn the metal handles around (up-side-down) and us them as feet?

[@titaniummechanism3214]

We have eight 6900XT lying around in our warehouse. They came out of a mining rig, that, as far as I could tell, never turned a profit. Sadly, they won't sell one to me since selling it would mean getting 400€ back for what used to be a 1000€ card not too long ago. And someone higher up doesn't like the sound of that and seems to think that they will gain value again or something.

[@michaelmcpeters8098]

The InWin case is pretty, but at $250 I should not be assembling it myself.. 😛

[@Sandmansa]

I've not been a real big fan of the mac pro cheese grater case design. But I have to say, this InWin Dubili case could grow on me. It has a nice industrial look to it. And it is begging for a custom loop to fill the space.

[@Technocrat.]

Nice case easy to work in, especially if you forget something on mobo like I had issue.last night. Forgot to put CMOS battery lol and in tight corner. Arhhggg had to take mobo out. Hey turn that case top handles on bottom and add rubber feet. Keep top flat.

[@eldibs]

Sailor Jerry rum is fantastic, it used to be my go-to. Try Flor de Cana sometime if you get the chance, it's a little easier on you the next day and it's delightful.

[@alexanderr6106]

ETH went to Proof of stake. No mining at all

[@CraftComputing]

All I know is I'm happy we can buy parts again.

[@alexanderr6106]

@@CraftComputing tell that to anyone who wants to buy the big cards. Ai crypto killing the a100/h100 availability

[@GeekProdigyGuy]

​@@alexanderr6106 .... You know those are data center cards right

[@tspawn35]

@@alexanderr6106Right because people are going to spend $7k - $15k a gpu for mining... They aren't readily available because Nvidia primarily makes them for their enterprise customers. IE Microsoft is gobbling up h100s like a monster to power their chatgpt servers. Microsoft has also been gobbling up a100s for years as well.

[@Fractal_32]

@@alexanderr6106 are you sure that’s not everyone buying them for the AI bubble?

[@jdancouga]

I see inwin, I upvote. inwin deserves more love.

[@sourcilavise3788]

You make me wanting to build a good old standard ATX build instead of my current MATX one :o (with a 3 slots 3090 and a 10GbE card, there's no more space). As I progress in my projects, I understand the need to have many many PCIE lanes and extension slots available.

[@lexluthermiester]

@CraftComputing I am 100% with you on the change of fans, especially for this build. The fans chosen are very nice! I personally would have gone with a custom Radeon card that had a matching white aesthetic, or maybe an RTX card of some flavor with a matching white theme, but that is personal preference. Overall, very nice build! EDIT: Jeff, if you revisit this built for a custom loop(highly recommend, people love those kinds of video's), make sure you address the PSU color theme as well. CoolerMaster makes a white theme PSU, maybe ask them to sponsor you one and show it off! A white theme PSU with matching cables would be a great touch up to a nearly perfect build! EDIT2: I make my Swizzles at little differently. Not a fan of honey so I use 2 teaspoons of cherry syrup(good cheery syrup not the cough syrup type crap) with an ounce of reasonable quality grenadine and an ounce of lime juice. I also prefer Captain Morgan Spiced Rum, but yours is great too!

[@MarkHyde]

I love computer cases that require you to have 'trained' Meccano in your formative years lol :) Great build and another awesome video.

[@hudsonreynolds4349]

I upgraded my 2070 super to a 6900xt and it was a bigggg upgrade! Now I am hoping for a 4080 super in the next 6 months

[@experimental0000]

Would be really neat... if it offered a metal panel as an alternative for the TG side panels that are on everything these days. I mean if you like TG, you do you. However not all of us want this and have less and less choices when we want a new/current chassis rather than resorting to a much older chassis that are sometimes more expensive now than when new.

[@bdhaliwal24]

Case looks great, I love the industrial look with the bolts on the outside.

[@nuuukethewhales]

Beautiful build, I want to see the custom loop! The 6900XT is also supported in macOS... an OpenCore install is just begging for you to do it

[@greenprotag]

Build is looking GOOD!

[@j_ferguson]

Cool build. You are way nicer than me for thinking it was a miscommunication with your rep rather than "This person doesn't know shit". Also, there is a bug with Nvidia 3000 series that is NEVER getting fixed where the sound shuts off until I change my speaker setting; I thought that happened until I saw your on screen text.

[@curiousurick]

I think this case almost looks good, but I don’t like all the external bolts on the front and side. It makes sense on the back but the bolts are almost a statement and I just think it doesn’t work for me. Happy for anyone who likes it though.

[@HalyconDayz620]

Looks really good Jeff! Totally agree with the feet on the case though. Why spoil the rest of the aesthetics.

[@MasonzeroDigitalWorks]

The fact that this case is most certainly gorgeous but then doesn't have a PSU shroud really kills me inside. Especially considering the clear side panel and the price.

[@eljefe7070yt]

Asiahorse has stepped up their fan line a bit recently. Nice build. The color scheme is great.

[@kevinpitts3548]

I'd like to take it to the chop shop and make it into an itx build!

[@markdjdeenix6846]

The case looks nice .would have been nice to see counter sunk fixings or spot welded hidden studs .with nuts on the inside "not much space and might interfear with the rads .but extra processes raise the price .it looks mac ish

[@psully311]

Interesting case, Amazon has it pictured with the handles you mentioned under the chassis as support feet. Optional build maybe? Great job on the video! Oh yeah I agree full on water cooling case for sure

[@CraftComputing]

Yes, you can swap the handles around and 86 the feet. But I like a case with top handles :-)

[@Fractal_32]

3:21 it was not ASICs, Ethereum went from Proof of Work (mining) to Proof of Stake. (Validating)

[@montecorbit8280]

The "Heavy Metal" build that you promised a link to in the description is not there....was disappointed in that. That sounded like fun to watch!!

[@CraftComputing]

OOPS! kzbin.info/www/bejne/bKrTm3-bq9dpi68

[@montecorbit8280]

@@CraftComputing I did find it, and it was fun!! It didn't sound like fun to build, though.... Maybe it's the copper tubing, put a cave off a steampunk vibe to me.... Have an excellent day!!

[@ToucheFarming]

don't worry, I've had to rerecord a 20 minute video because my audio settings were messed with and the audio wasn't worth trying to save

[@Arachnoid_of_the_underverse]

What no white ram lol.......... Super looking system ,I hope hes happy with it.

[@CraftComputing]

The RAM matches the orange case accent :-)

[@TheSasquatchjones]

Awesome build

[@photon92]

I clicked like within the first 10 seconds because of the silence! haha

[@cassiorichiniti]

14:10 some Thermaltake fans used to have stupid long cables dunno if they still do that.

[@T313COmun1s7]

"I don't have a swizzle stick." Jeff, you have a 3D printer. You have infinite swizzle sticks.

[@Thewickedjon]

LoL great intro :D PS: (Edit) YES, DO THE CUSTOM WATERCOOLED SETUP, YES

[@jfkastner]

Fans that don't have a Shroud or soild Covers around them are a lot less effective - some of the Air just circulates around their Frame. Nice Build anyways!

[@ScottJohnson-v1r]

Can we do a poll if it is going to be hard lined or soft tubing for the build?

[@VeritronX]

hmm.. it's mt performance in r23 is about what I got with my old 5900x with a 190w PPT cap iirc

[@DarioEspina]

Try to get one of these Venezuelan rums: Diplomatico Mantuano or Santa Teresa 1796, those are the best Venezuelan rum

[@perfectloser]

The "handles" at the top can be used as the feet can't they? Think that was featured in the amazon listing picture, but if you hate the ABS as much, might be a worthwhile change.

[@CraftComputing]

Yeah, but I wanted the top handles as well.

[@1leggeddog]

That drink man i'd love to try it

[@korbidede]

not me turning my volume to max only to get a heartattack

[@LarsBerntropBos]

I tried sourcing the parts to build it. Same problem: no parts available... 😭

[@lemagreengreen]

That's one hell of a donation

[@haxwithaxe]

Part of me likes the flat pack cases and part of me is paranoid about racking from lateral bumps. How stable is it when it's put together?

[@CraftComputing]

I'd stand on it without worrying.

[@thadoggma]

Apple wouldn't put RGB in their computers. If they did, they would charge you $1000 dollars just to add it, and a monthly subscription fee...

[@makouille495]

mwehehe i thought my sound system died on me at first...

[@cardude1957]

No LTT screwdriver for assembly?

[@Technocrat.]

Hey have you b Done a build with Huanazhi B660M board from Ali Express? Did one last night, really nice 8 layer PCB board built like a tank.

[@elikirkwood4580]

The fact that nobody makes a giant dual tower air cooler for threadripper/epyc systems is a crime. I know they have fairly low power density but aesthetically I need something like that

[@johngaltline9933]

Be Quiet, Cooler Master, Noctua, Ice Giant...and plenty more just typing 'threadripper air cooler' in a search engine.

[@andrewr7820]

Yeah, it's a pity that AMD didn't do a Zen3 Threadripper for the socket SP3 (TRX40). I'll just have to muddle along with my 3960X and ASrock Taichi motherboard as best I can. Totally NOT interested in a forklift upgrade to the WRX series. Way to spendy.

[@csdwu13]

Wait, didn’t watch the whole vid but you did a threadripper build with a 5 heat pipe air cooler?!?

[@andrewr7820]

Because air coolers never spring leaks all over your $3-5K worth of components trapped inside the case. That's why.

[@Yuriel1981]

When I drink rum, its always Sailor Jerry's. And Rum Drinks are dangerous because its the spirit of the pirates! Lol

[@CraftComputing]

Yarrrrr

[@Jack32X]

I neeeeeeed this case holy cow

[@MatthewHill]

Holy crap... are you absolutely certain that case was sent to you by Inwin and not Ikea?

[@shephusted2714]

at least some of the top end amd gpu are supporting rocm now - the aesthetics mean almost nothing and just forego the water cooling - will only add extra time and money and maintenance to the build

[@explqicot3293]

What should one use a 2970wx for like what I need someone to tell me with details I’ve heard vms and dbs and extra pcie lanes but what else !? What special tasks that you wouldn’t go for a 5950x

[@CraftComputing]

PCIe connectivity. Multiple cards like 10Gb, HDMI capture, audio interfaces, etc. Most consumer platform motherboards support a GPU and a single x4 expansion card.

[@rmcdudmk212]

Getting big G5 mac vibes from that case. 👍

[@blackpietto]

I have 2 g5 cases modded to ATX (Laserhive parts) . But the front in the G5 is not big to store drives. I think this pc is bigger

[@rmcdudmk212]

@@blackpietto that's awesome you converted those cases. I'm not a big apple fan but those are some of the best looking machines they ever made. The case in this vid is definitely bigger I agree with you there.

[@charleskrueger5523]

I’ve got a bunch of G5 Mac Pro cases and this case looks nothing like them. Nice case but no one is going to think it was built by Apple.

[@vollhorst140]

Where are the sidepanels?

[@LAZZRIS]

Fan-tastic!

[@spx2327]

How can you not love this guy! 😂

[@johngaltline9933]

Working with a 3,1 on my desk every day, this case kinda, sorta, has the same vibe... but if the look matters to you, it looks like a cheap, alliexpress knockoff from someone that heard about what an old pro looks like, then used spare parts they had laying around to build it. I'm sure it is a great case, looks nice to build in, but for the aesthetic, ridges and bolts sticking out, flat bars bolted on to the sides, etc, does not at all feel like an old Pro. To me, it would look far better without the straps on the top, just being it's own thing, instead of using big bolts sticking out all over the place while trying for the look of a seamless case design... This coming from someone that has no care for what a case looks like, using strips of vinyl window blinds to build little shelves for the HDDs in my server and having cables tangled everywhere.

[@andrewr7820]

You'd have to get me rummed up to want to assemble that thing. It looks fun in an "erector set" kind of way, but I'm old enough that I actually *owned* and Erector Set... I'm happy with my big Fractal Torrent E-ATX, thanks.

[@Blustride]

That case isn’t _that_ big. You should see some of the behemoths that can hold 480 or 560mm rads

[@davelamont]

It's pretty, but a case that big is dying to be stuffed with hard drives and turned into a NAS

[@Dutch-linux]

looks cool but it screams for a custom loop water cooling and not just straight loops more like crazy looptoloops and curves like a rolercoaster you got the room use it make it a crazy custom loop

[@hakdaman]

NICE!

[@haxwithaxe]

I'm just at the intro. Getting the fail out of the way early I see. I'm sure I won't have to edit this

[@christopherjames9843]

People use Macs for the OS and quality of the professional applications. Not the hardware.

[@yoghurrt1]

hey algorithm, take *this*

[@CraftComputing]

No, YOU TAKE IT!

[@novellahub]

Your good friend Jon is going to be jealous.

[@knghtbrd]

InWin … if you're reading the comments on these things … This is a BIG motherboard in a BIG case. But the criticism of cable lengths… Pls make shorter, wider workstation/small server version of this. PSU behind motherboard, place to slot in a couple of drives for storing video not used in current projects, etc. That's gonna be on its way out even for creatives in 4-5 years but right now it's getting hard to find a case that will accommodate drives and cool them well. Pls keep the cheesegrater front across the width. Pls replace the plastic feet. Caster option? Maybe. My "workspace" (read: a couple meters from my kitchen and bedroom) is prone to high levels of dust. Computer. Off. Floor. But consider the idea at least, because computers on wheels are really handy when they start getting heavy.

[@jonathan.sullivan]

360 AIO on a Threadripper.... Ok first time for everything....I see the air cooler being installed....yup didn't think so. Also this build is Jason BMB horrible. Yellow? Use orange to hide the hideous Ram heatsinks and theme it a little for Threadripper.

[@vamwolf]

OLOy shout . nice

[@irgendna]

..but where's dust filters.

[@CraftComputing]

In the trash where they belong.

[@sons726]

Ethereum went to stakes based mining not asic

[@janezverbic2093]

Love the case, but a psu shroud is a must, they shoud include a foldable or modular one... No one want to see another mans junk.😁

[@danieldiaz9948]

Hi Kevin, it’s me, your other friend, would love a donation

[@DarrylAdams]

You can tell Jeff does not have a drink as he lied about water cooling.

[@rett.isawesome]

Since your a youtuber and get EVERYTHING for FREE, why don't you just give this build to me?

[@rmcdudmk212]

😂 I was thinking the same thing

[@CraftComputing]

@rettweissenfels184 Sorry, this is going to someone who deserves it.

[@blablagal94]

​@@CraftComputing Did you just say giveaway? 👀

[@markdeckard7651]

​@@CraftComputingperfect answer to a dumb, entitled question

[@CraftComputing]

LOL, I literally built this PC for this guy. This is Rett.

[@FaithyJo]

We cant stop here. This is ant country 🐜🐜🐜🐜🐜

[@CraftComputing]

x79? Do you want ants? Because that's how you get ants!

[@Dragonheng]

But this time with out a Cat on Top.

[@jakobfindlay4136]

As a crypto bro, the comments on Eth hurt my brain

[@CraftComputing]

As a ponzi scheme believer, I don't care.

[@TheChadXperience909]

The vent holes in the front go nowhere since there's a shroud behind it. That shroud covers the tips of the fan blades where most of their airflow would've been. So, it completely restricts the airflow, destroying the function of the holes. It's just for design, and they went with cheese grater chic. What a show stopper! Get a real job, Jeff.

[@banks3388]

As much as I love AMD why are you using their card when CUDA cores would be much more useful for editing...

[@niewazneniewazne1890]

They're not as bad. Might as well grab intel ARC for quicksync.

[@chainsaw2010]

Sexy looking build