I have been wanting someone to have Ben on a recent show so bad, especially lately, since Kody’s family fell apart etc. Would love to hear his take on it. He seems like he’s trying so hard to work on his mental health, from the way he grew up. I wish Kody’s & his family would see him & take notes! So proud of how far he’s come & wishing Ben continued happiness! Best wishes , Ben!
@pollyannaburnette92772 ай бұрын
Ben has done an excellent job of explaining Mormonism. And I am so glad she just let him talk because so many of us are interested in the religion and TLC won’t go too deep into it. He gives an accurate account of the history and shows how effing weird Mormonism is!
@juicie25bt2 ай бұрын
I loved the way he broke it all down, very fascinating.
@thesarahfrasershow2 ай бұрын
Right? I had no idea!
@AprilFrresh2 ай бұрын
Ben is so well spoken and 100% accurate. I grew up in the mainstream LDS group in SLC. The way he describes the history, the separations, and the attitudes is spot on. I'm impressed.
@katiehensley290Ай бұрын
Wow! He did an excellent job of breaking down mormonism and discussing how to identify cults. I didn't realize that Kody was a new convert to the AUB and that Jenelle also grew up LDS. That's fascinating.
@jandavis32592 ай бұрын
Kudos to Ben for escaping the cult with dignity and a great sense of humor. Obviously a very intelligent guy. I hope he has a wonderful life. He deserves it.
@KimberlyCook-po9xh2 ай бұрын
This interview was needed for myself. I need healing from childhood problems. I'm 58. Yes, it's never too late. I've been in tears the entire interview. Mr brown has come so far. I'm excited for his new life. I agree with him about christen mary and Janelle. Tlc needs to showcase their healing. I'm convince that kody has lost it. Thank you again for this interview.
@laneneal35102 ай бұрын
Yes. I’d watch the healing process
@kimb79622 ай бұрын
Ben I'm with you on the "real story" ...I'm so interested to see where the "sisterwives " are as they heal from a lifetime in this cult. Also interested to see what happens when they are no longer contractually bound. I'm hoping for healing journeys more than anything. Great interview!
@nanasdesigndepot2 ай бұрын
Great interview! Thanks Sarah and Ben!
@thesarahfrasershow2 ай бұрын
Love ya, thank you
@uticaphoenix96242 ай бұрын
This is the third time watching this. Ben is great and I believe every question I have had he was able to answer and Sarah, you asked! Blown away at how interesting. If there is an award category for best podcast interview, this by far is a number one pick for me. I also love that you are different from reporting on all the Bravo news. No disrespect to those podcasters but there are too many doing the same thing. You Sarah have cornered a market! Thumbs up for sure!
@celticmoon1112 ай бұрын
Ben's amazing ❤
@thesarahfrasershow2 ай бұрын
I agree, I really enjoyed this interview
@karendillon26542 ай бұрын
I love learning different religions, glad he explained it.
@thesarahfrasershow2 ай бұрын
me too! so interesting
@IWantToRideMyBike2 ай бұрын
The burning man story was so important. You definitely needed both sets of advice and I’m so glad she gave you both options
@demetraferrant95432 ай бұрын
Ben you are so on point and thank you for your candor and saying it how it is. Keep speaking up!!!
@CoffeeBuzzzz2 ай бұрын
Yes Ben 👏 👏 👏 speaking the truth about this cult!!!
@susanrupright47932 ай бұрын
Sarah, I love your show. You are not only talented, beautiful and funny. I admire that you are so willing to help others coming up in the business. In my day everyone acted like all new people were trying to steal their job. I always disliked this atmosphere in the world. Keep up the good work and I'll keep watching your videos ♥️♥️♥️
@thesarahfrasershow2 ай бұрын
LOVE you and thank you! Yes, I know that mentality too - coming up in radio a lot of people wanted to see me fail and wouldn't help others coming into the business. That is so nuts to me, room for everyone and those people coming up maybe my boss someday so why wouldn't you help? love ya
@laurenl720Ай бұрын
Great interview.
@andiestewart74232 ай бұрын
Wow! Thanks for that history, very informative 👍
@pineappleyates1962 ай бұрын
Is it me or does he sound like Kody? This was very eye opening and I'm so glad he's speaking his truth, unapologetically
@MrsRMBaker2 ай бұрын
This is soooo good.
@thesarahfrasershow2 ай бұрын
@@MrsRMBaker thank you! Means a lot
@Nightbird19142 ай бұрын
“Polyg Rig” Putting two trailers together!
@mads5972 ай бұрын
“Polyglets” 😂
@ShowgirlMBrucknerАй бұрын
Best episode. Thank you
@waboosje2 ай бұрын
Where can I follow Ben? I like to hear/see more of him. Great video, great explanation.
@amyraspatello3721Күн бұрын
Wow, just catching this. What Ben said at around 1:36? Totally agree. I believe there is a God out there, that umbrellas all beliefs
@cathywithac2 ай бұрын
I can't shake the thought that Janelle's mom Cheryl was the Robyn of Kody's parents' relationship. As Kody's mom said, "I got the kids and Cheryl got Winn." Winn and Cheryl were a love match. She hated Cheryl for years. Someone found the legal divorce of Kody's marriage and the legal marriage of Winn to either Bobbi or Cheryl.
@dbprice1002 ай бұрын
What I read was that Winn divorced his first wife in 1989 and got remarried the same year. If that date is correct, then Bobbie was the legal wife.
@wallaceshotwell81682 ай бұрын
Ben,keep talking and keep making people laugh with you,you’re excellent at this whole thing. Maybe you can get certain people in your family to believe in your way of thinking. Ben Brown style.
@alipennells8002 ай бұрын
Very interesting discussion , great questions asked and Ben given time to explain his experience, really enjoyed this interview.
@mads5972 ай бұрын
It’s a little disorienting, hearing such honesty and wisdom coming from a voice that sounds quite similar to Kody Brown’s vocal profile- not to imply that’s a bad thing! Just familial resemblance. Ben’s got a great voice.
@WrittenWildlife2 ай бұрын
I wish he had addressed one of Kody’s most awful statements “I’m only afraid of being poor” The poverty they lived with sounds pretty scary.
@alixalain452 ай бұрын
What a Lovely human being.
@AussieKool2 ай бұрын
Listening to Ben talk i realise he is a lot smarter than Kody Brown, I think them books he read when he was young gave him a more broader view of the world and he has a more open mind to all possibilities.
@Saramarie2022 ай бұрын
How did I miss you at the burn, Ben omg
@Proudmary72 ай бұрын
Great interview!!
@joycemeyer52292 ай бұрын
Wonderful guest ! Great show ! 😊
@thesarahfrasershow2 ай бұрын
Appreciate you!
@uticaphoenix96242 ай бұрын
Wow, incredibly interesting. Another fantastic show
@thesarahfrasershow2 ай бұрын
Thank you! that means so much
@JazmineRomero-ff7ls2 ай бұрын
I love that Ben is tainted!! You go Ben 🤣🥰❤
@laneneal35102 ай бұрын
You go Ben! So true!
@MickiW-n7f2 күн бұрын
Christine talked about this too
@elizabethbaig53822 ай бұрын
Hey Sarah big fan from Sydney love your channel I have watched Ben during several interviews and he is so different to kodex lol god bless
@thesarahfrasershow2 ай бұрын
Hi!! love you, I can't wait to visit AUSTRALIA! love you and thank you for listening and watching
@laurieerickson72052 ай бұрын
I just want to add to Benjamin’s story, that in terms of men having served time for the crime of polygamy when Utah turned from territory to statehood, a lot of the men had many wives - the presiding judges ordered they be released and legally wed to the woman with the youngest child.
@jmc-xp6ml2 ай бұрын
great analogy of many ways of pointing at the moon
@Black-be1db2 ай бұрын
Love You Ben
@marinagallant1847Ай бұрын
OMGoodness, he looks exactly like Kody
@laurieerickson72052 ай бұрын
Also, my problem w the church and some of the long gone and older members even now - was regarding the role of black people in the church and within SLC. I attended the U of U in 78 - 79 and the religious and racial tensions (to me) were palpable. I took a course “African American History”, the prof was black, several athletes enrolled were and there were a handful of nevermos from other states who were learning that only about 12 black professionals were successful and living within SLC city limits at that time. I saw the racism, experienced it bc of some of the church members in my family. I’ve never believed that the older generations ever completely accepted this change in church policy. Some have gone as far to accuse the splinter groups to have seceded because of racism. I wouldn’t know, my family was a melting pot of everything and I still saw extreme reactions to black culture.
@kimdodd80552 ай бұрын
I wonder why he quit reviewing the show
@pollyannaburnette92772 ай бұрын
I think it was traumatic for him
@Darawara2 ай бұрын
Bravery = real life truths
@staceyfloyd40092 ай бұрын
Ben, you are absolutely wonderful and it is so amazing to hear about your journey of healing. I’ve been on a similar path and am so encouraged by you. I hope you are proud of what you’ve accomplished so far. Mad respect for cycle breakers ❤️🩹
@El-lq4bv2 ай бұрын
I got a morman ad before this lmao
@kellythomason61192 ай бұрын
Parts of this were difficult to hear. There are very painful similarities between Mormonism and being an independent fundamental Baptist.
@laneneal35102 ай бұрын
Religion was designed to control. Seek your own information.
@dsssmom77522 ай бұрын
I had thought the reason the parents did not like Tony was race related. Just my first impression when I saw how they resisted engagement
@ifeyinwaokolo12462 ай бұрын
Nah. I would resist that engagement harder than Christine. Tony has always been and is still a walking red flag.
@dbprice1002 ай бұрын
Nah, there are numerous Hispanics in LDS and AUB. The parents didn't know him.
@laneneal35102 ай бұрын
It was. And I believe Mykelti persued it to be the radical child she was.
@-pinkbutterfly-69722 ай бұрын
You can tell he's Kody blood relative. Kody's mom is handsome, and her boys look like her.
@heidiheidi2 ай бұрын
The earth and humans are called science and evolution imo . I understand not all religions act “culty” but I believe organized “normal” religions are nice versions of a cult 😂😂 I like this guy thanks for sharing, great video! All is my opinion
@Nightbird19142 ай бұрын
I heard once that the definition of a cult is “the church down the street.”
@laneneal35102 ай бұрын
It’s all cultish.
@heidiheidi2 ай бұрын
@ agreed
@heidiheidi2 ай бұрын
@@Nightbird1914 that’s a good sayin!
@valerienelson32962 ай бұрын
No coffee no sex? What's the point of being an adult?
@thesarahfrasershow2 ай бұрын
Right? no thank you
@wallaceshotwell81682 ай бұрын
Aside from being Norman, I think no matter what religion Kody is, he’s got an innate streak of asshole. Then again, he’s reacting to his environment like we all do but not everyone would react in such a negative way to having the veil lifted. He confuses me and make me have so many angry feelings. He should talk to you.
@wallaceshotwell81682 ай бұрын
lol Maybe Norman would’ve been better. MORMON
@laneneal35102 ай бұрын
Narcissistic behavior and the cult allowed him to get his supply and be King.
@scmonaghan12 ай бұрын
Ben looks like he's lost quite a bit of weight. I hope his health is ok.
@terrylkumpf38942 ай бұрын
Will you interview the kids of the Brown
@thesarahfrasershow2 ай бұрын
HECK YES! please tell them all to come on my show, I can't wait
@China-Clay2 ай бұрын
LDS aka “mainstream“ church, if that helps
@lindas.37912 ай бұрын
Loved listening to Ben Brown. But I thought it was so Disrespectful at the end. The music was too loud while he was trying to give out his info. Please do better.
@md-s72212 ай бұрын
Sorry off topic...but have you done a video on your decision to use a donor egg? I have only seen your video on ending IVF, but would love to hear your thoughts on using a donor egg.
@thesarahfrasershow2 ай бұрын
No, but I will! Coming soon
@WiscoKidd2 ай бұрын
There was a bunch of new things that came out about Ben. He’s really no better than Kody at the end of the day.
@powderandpaint142 ай бұрын
Like what?
@djalmy59512 ай бұрын
On another interview a while ago. Ben said, 'Kody did the best he could do as a father.' Playing both sides ???
@powderandpaint142 ай бұрын
@djalmy5951 it depends on the context of that comment. If he's saying that he did the best he could within the religion and culture he was in and with the amount of kids he had then maybe. But overall no-one would think he did well being a parent.
@cathyspyrie9072 ай бұрын
I think that whole Janelle and her mother saying is all about the pheromones
@wallaceshotwell81682 ай бұрын
Seems to me the grown men listened to their bodies a lot a lot.
@powderandpaint142 ай бұрын
Being impulsive isn't the same as listening to your body.
@wallaceshotwell81682 ай бұрын
@@powderandpaint14 I agree! I was being sarcastic.
@wallaceshotwell81682 ай бұрын
I’ve always had soooo many questions about the things religion teaches you that are so damn contradictory. Like what god would be so arrogant to make people WORSHIP them? That’s just so abusive and absurd.
@laneneal35102 ай бұрын
It makes no sense. When you “get” that you choose to embody your avatar here, it becomes so much easier
@waboosje2 ай бұрын
So that loud music at the end made it impossible to hear where to find And connect with Ben. It was not very respectful to put it there this loud either! Specially a pitty because I liked the information in the video, normally I would have subscribed at this point.
@Nightbird19142 ай бұрын
The Trad Catholic movement has hit a segment of my family. It’s not my thing.
@kimzaremba50252 ай бұрын
Sacred suffering
@mollycgoodrichАй бұрын
He looks like Kody
@laneneal35102 ай бұрын
All bc a religious/cult says this is the only way thru this life is to please a vengeful God who says he loves you. What makes one to believe this crap?! Is it only bc we have a worship gene. Or are most people just sheep? Are most people weak and need a leader? Is it control? I do not get it.
@MasonCamden2 ай бұрын
Gurl, your trying to upstage David. This channel is a major conflict of interest.
@Nightbird19142 ай бұрын
I don’t understand?
@sarajanerocks2 ай бұрын
That boy got so much of the history... incorrect by not telling the truth of it. Bummer.
@kandykaye99812 ай бұрын
The MAGA comparison is ridiculous. Don’t try to mix us in with your horrible cult.