Examination of the locking systems of the Heym SR30 which is now adapted by Savage to bring the Savage Impulse - have a look www.savagearms... and the Blaser R8. / usog www.paypal.com...
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@paulsimmons57266 жыл бұрын
Leave it to the Germans to come up with something that far out of the box, brilliant. The SR30 certainly has good lines. The Europeans have completely mastered crossing the bridge between form and function; their ability to make their hunting rifles look so gorgeous, even at the bottom end, and work so precisely... well, I just compare them to our entry levels - no comparison. Yeah, that bolt design was a stroke of genius. Take care!
@UnitedStatesOfGuns6 жыл бұрын
Wise and accurate words...something about those Germans...which would include me (at least partly). All the best.
@YaoiMastah6 жыл бұрын
Slight difference is that European entry-level hunting rifles are slightly different priced than US entry-level rifles. The Mauser M18, in it's barest form is marketed as a cheap entry-level rifle for a mere 800 - 900 euros (tax included). Haenel Jaeger 10 is a similar entry-level rifle with a wooden stock for a meager 1100 euros. (they have a "Jungjaeger-set" or beginner-hunter set, that includes a scope and a quick detachable scope mount for a modest 1400 euros). Go below the 800 euro mark, and you'll only find cheap Russian and Chinese rifles.
@paulsimmons57266 жыл бұрын
@@YaoiMastah Sounds logical. What's the conversion at this point for a 1,000 Euros to dollars?
@YaoiMastah6 жыл бұрын
According to Google, 1,000 euros currently buys you 1,174.40 US dollars
@ragnar3386 жыл бұрын
And the crown for making the most value for the money available to the working man goes to the US... not counting current labour cost or tariffs - maybe we should trade to fulfill every customers' need? ;) What some USAmericans don't realize is that the BRD, northern middle Germany, was and is an elitist society - generalizing there are no rights only priviledges so who can afford to spend the time and money to get a hunting priviledge will be abled to spend money on nice gear and has his father's 98 already in his safe.
@olivierrouviere80403 жыл бұрын
Very good video, thank you! Heym last release is the SR30 Ultra Light Carbone model, 6.1 lbs only!
@WestfaelischerJung6 жыл бұрын
These are actually quite common in germany! I have been to the Heym factory half a year ago and they still sell quite a lot of the SR30s. What i have heard they dont plan to discontinue these rifles.
@YaoiMastah6 жыл бұрын
Indeed. I think their SR30's takes the largest part of their revenue, as it is often marketed as "cheaper than a Blaser" (even though the majority of the hunters I know own a Blaser, I also know a lot of hunters with Heyms). They wouldn't dare to eat the chicken that lays golden eggs.
@UnitedStatesOfGuns6 жыл бұрын
That is good news - I had no idea. I'm going to order another barrel set. Thanks for letting me know.
@zeraldasriese5 жыл бұрын
Heym SR30 is the best straight-pull rifle you can buy today! Works in Siberia and Afrika. No probs with any temperatures, dust or humidity. Just be careful putting ammunition in to the magazine! It must be done very accurately to prevent stoppage.
@russellmiller2123 жыл бұрын
What an intriguing straight pull rifle; one which I had the privilege of an offer years ago to supplement the Sauer 202 Highland recently obtain in Waldorf, just outside of the Heidelberg area.
@ragnar3386 жыл бұрын
The Heym SR30 is a really good construction, the difference is the conventional, easy to swap out magazine and conventional receiver. The R8 has the magazine above the trigger - that shortens the overall lengh but also makes You buy additional trigger and bottom metals should You want to be able to quickchange mags and it locks directly in the barrel which should make it more accurate and consistent when shot hot. Also enables fast and easy barrel or bolt changes eg. left to right hand. I would grade the SR30 to be sturdier, the R93 - previous model with the magazine in front of the trigger assembly - with more slented locking angles has rumours of potential danger with overpressure loads in magnum cardridges floating around. The R8 has solid test results.
@UnitedStatesOfGuns6 жыл бұрын
The R8 is faster to operate - at least for me; but the SR30 has so much going for it. I prefer the SR30.
@rickbattle57066 жыл бұрын
Patreon video is ultra cool. Be there or be square!
@UnitedStatesOfGuns6 жыл бұрын
Thanks Rick : )
@lobster80093 жыл бұрын
Funny the R8 is considered the Porsche of the hunting rifles internationally when here in Germany they are more like the VW Golf of hunting rifles. Feels like everyone has one. Same with ammo and scopes, everyone shoots RWS and has a Zeiss, Swarovski, S&B, Leica, Kahles you name it. Good gear is considered a standard, luxury comes into play with custom rifles with stunning wood and hand engraving. 6 digit rifles some guys carry around here. Germans have a special appreciation for beautyful craftsmanship and love to pay some more to get a outstandig tool even if for some that means years of saving up. Im just a carpenter and i own rifles that work perfectly fine for hunting yet im saving up for my own R8 even if it takes me years of putting aside every spare penny because its just worth it hunting with a great tool like that.
@UnitedStatesOfGuns3 жыл бұрын
Greetings to you! Great hunting country : Germany; actually just a great country all around. I know what you mean about the R8 - but over here it is not so common yet. I still like the Mauser M96 sfacebook.com/redmoosehunting/videos/new-straight-pullsteel-action-show-their-straight-pull-riflewhat-do-you-think/1524734414292095/traight pulls. I hope you buy an R8 soon - or maybe a Steel Straight Pull. All the best to you.
@lobster80093 жыл бұрын
@@UnitedStatesOfGuns I must say im a bit jealous of american hunters. You guys have nearly endless woods of untouched pure nature you can stalk for days if you want and even sleep in the woods. In germany you have a real hard time finding a piece of land that is not either artificial plantation forest or agricultural fields. 99% of hunts you just sit in a comfy high seat at a field you know is frequently visited by deer to feed. Pull the trigger, the cars parked right around the corner, we perfected hunting so much it has become boring. Only in the late fall we get some much needed variation when the driven hunts are held. Some are fortunate enough to get to hunt waterfowl and bigger deer like Red Deer but for most like me its just Roe Deer and Wild Boar.
@chrischiampo76476 жыл бұрын
Really Cool Locking System 😀😎👍🏼
@emilsvensson90515 жыл бұрын
It would be fun to see a video about the "new" straight pull gun Steel Action. It seems to be a well build rifle.
@UnitedStatesOfGuns5 жыл бұрын
Hi Emil - you're right and I have one on order - but apparently it is crossing the Atlantic to me in a canoe - very slow. Aside from that, I'm being told it is a total winner. I'm still liking my Strasser 14 - excellent rifle.
@emilsvensson90515 жыл бұрын
@@UnitedStatesOfGuns Great! I'm looking forward to hear your opinions and thoughts. I've tried it on a game fair once and from there on i flushed my plans for saving up for a Blaser R8 success..
@John19116 жыл бұрын
Armory staff know I have a weakness for straight-pull rifles. -Marky
@BloodiedYetUnbowed3 жыл бұрын
I was looking for this video that I watched a couple years ago since I saw that Savage copied this design, but it seems you, USOG, beat me to the punch and had already updated the video.
@UnitedStatesOfGuns3 жыл бұрын
Hi MP - Savage did a good job adapting the design for mass production. Hopefully I'll have one in hand soon. All the best.
@BloodiedYetUnbowed3 жыл бұрын
@@UnitedStatesOfGuns Looking forward to it!
@dimitarhadjov37486 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this video. Very interesting, as is the whole channel. Subscribed already :)
@UnitedStatesOfGuns6 жыл бұрын
Thank you Dimitar!
@frufru00715 жыл бұрын
Hello from Victoria, BC...(Canada!). What a fantastic rifle that Heym SR30 is! I’m the quadriplegic guy who has messaged you before, about straight pull actions and since you wrote me, I have acquired two. I recently acquired a 1943 K-31, (I love the recoil, but it’s quite difficult for me to cycle the action on this beauty. I can do it, but I’m just about exhausted after emptying a magazine. It’s such a nice rifle, too. I also have an 'ISSC SPA' (Straight Pull Action...you likely had that figured without my explanation!). I love that Heym! Thanks for sharing your videos with us, I really enjoy them. Why is it that you don’t get to the range to shoot? With such a beautiful collection, and the passion you-obviously-have for many rifles, I’m curious as to why you’d not make time to shoot them. Sorry for asking-it’s not my intention to be rude, (I do hope that you’re in good health!). Be well!
@UnitedStatesOfGuns5 жыл бұрын
I love hearing from you. Maybe I can answer your questions. In the studio I can cover a lot of ground and look at several rifles or shotguns or what have you in a fairly short period of time. At the range, the assistants or crew have to get set up, then there are the people who become interested in what I am up to; then comes the shooting and more filming - but there are other people shooting...so one has to wait for a pause in shooting for audio - then someone comes over to talk and someone else comes over to socialize or for an autograph....it is all good but for sharing knowledge...the studio wins. Seeing me shoot means I can pull a trigger - for sure - other than that - my boring table and guns all over is better - at least for now. One last comment - shooting for me is so great - when I finally get to the range - I soooo enjoy just shooting - and making videos complicates these scarce times. I hope this makes sense and I hope I don"t come across as a bad person. I have zero time. I sometimes run to filming and have a half hour to get everything done and not me panting. I am so humbled that you watch my videos. So grateful that you find something in them and that you are shooting the SR30. I hope to meet you one day. Sorry for the long message but I hoped to find a way for you to understand me. You are a very special person - we need more people like you.
@frufru00715 жыл бұрын
I WISH I could afford the SR30, my friend! One day...🤷🏻♂️. And I thought you were at your dining room table! I’m quite sorry, at’s got
@bobgarr62464 жыл бұрын
One can see the path that was taken when the design for lockup was being formulated. In principle this ball bearing method of lockup is very similar to the H & K roller lock system. The difference being that the roller lock system of delayed blowback is similar to this in that the ball bearings are manually operated rather than delayed blowback as in the previous H&K design mentioned. I do find it amusing however that the suggestion that we should go out and find and buy one of these Hyem's. Due to their price of well over $3,000 usually much higher it typically takes it out of the range of what most gun owners can afford. It is certainly a very high-end specialized firearm. I don't see the Hyem or the Blaser becoming a part of my collection anytime in the near future, the price that they would cost is prohibitive and I could buy multiple firearms and get much more value for the same amount of money spent. That being said they are beautiful and wonderful firearms and if one could afford them they would be more than a welcome addition to a gun collection.
@UnitedStatesOfGuns4 жыл бұрын
Excellent post Bob.
@bobgarr62464 жыл бұрын
@@UnitedStatesOfGuns thank you sir. At any level of gunsmithing an understanding of design, function, and repair is essential. One does not so much "learn the model " of gun to work on. But rather learns the system that a type or family of guns operates and functions on. If that level can be attained, then it is much easier to tackle any job. Case in point, if one truly understands how a boxlock, exposed hammer and side lock pivot barrel shotgun works. Then any side by side or over under shotgun will be clear in its operation and in being to diagnose it's problems. Your a lucky guy to have so many interesting firearms come across your table. Any chance there may be some Rigbys, Holland & Hollands, Wesley Richards, Styers, Parkers, Coppers, Anshutz, Kimber Super America's or Sharps passing by?
@SuburbanBushwacker4 жыл бұрын
Here in the Uk most of us have much smaller collections than shooters in the USofA. Weirdly we actually pay less for our rifles than guys in the Nordic region. Here an older SR30 can be had for less than a grand unless it has that nice Bavarian stock which is a 500ish extra when buying new. SR21's are crazy cheap S/H considering the quality
@erichuntter24374 жыл бұрын
My mate got a SR30 in 7x57 awesome rifle 👍
@UnitedStatesOfGuns4 жыл бұрын
Hey Eric!!!! Your mate is one of the very few! I can hardly find anyone who has an SR30! I like his 7x57 better than my .270 too! All the best to you in the Lucky Country! Wish I was in Sydney today - sort of cranky weather here today. I like walking around Circular Quay and Darling Harbour - more or less doind nothing and then wandering over to the gardens for the bats and the late afternoon lift. Such a fantastic place. Cheers!
@erichuntter24374 жыл бұрын
@@UnitedStatesOfGuns I haven't had a chance to try the 7x57 SR30 yet but am hoping he will👍 He's all so got another heym SR 21 in 243 , I shoot my very 1st Munjac Buck way it 😁👍
@roeng13686 жыл бұрын
Excellent video. I would really love an sr30, there were a few for sale near me, but none in a calibre i would want.
@SuburbanBushwacker4 жыл бұрын
that problem has recently been solved. Heym are now selling Pre Fit barrels I'm about to turn my 243 into a 6.5 so I can shoot lead-Free ammo
@Monasucks3 жыл бұрын
Can you do a compression of all straight pulls? With the new savage included as well?
@portugal5698 Жыл бұрын
Beautiful spec as usual! What kind of scope mounts are those? Always see them on Mausers.
@FunkyDebob3 жыл бұрын
The bolt is a masterpiece of engineering. They tested the rifle with 8000 joule. In a hunting school they fire 44 000 rounds per annum through three of them . This rifle is made for a lifetime.
@SUPERDUCO3 жыл бұрын
The blaser r8 is tested with 14.500bar Heym just 8000bar
@Manticore493 Жыл бұрын
@@SUPERDUCO Where did you find this information?
@SUPERDUCO Жыл бұрын
@@Manticore493 just google 14.500 bar blaser r8
@ilovethatkatielovesclassic87715 жыл бұрын
would love to take a look at the locking element inside that bolt! another video, perhaps?
@UnitedStatesOfGuns5 жыл бұрын
Roger that - will do : )
@ilovethatkatielovesclassic87715 жыл бұрын
@@UnitedStatesOfGuns Wew!
@yuriys.63526 жыл бұрын
it would be very interesting to see the merkel helix locking mechanism 😉
@UnitedStatesOfGuns6 жыл бұрын
I'll do that - thank you!
@partisano714 жыл бұрын
I have sr30 in 30-06 and looking for a 270 barrel i had an blaser r93 a few years ago to, is reposicition is a anchultz 30-06 😉
@mohammadmehdi87116 жыл бұрын
Hi there mate just wanted to say very nice video as always remember I told you couple months ago that I ordered my R8 based on your recommendation and I'm really sorry to tell you that's the guy who gets them in AU he is not really honest person so I had to cancel my order and get a new rifel with switch barrel system so on that bomar what is you recommend I have my eays on the Muser M03 and friend of mine have one it's really nice and very accurate rifel if you have any recommendation please let me know know Thanks and best regards Romeo
@UnitedStatesOfGuns6 жыл бұрын
Hi Romeo! Too bad about the fellow who deals in Blasers. The Mauser 03 is a great rifle and a turn bolt - as you know so it is familiar ground. I had one in 30-06 and then sold it for no good reason. Best to you in the Lucky Country : )
@ragnar3386 жыл бұрын
Notice Blaser directly. Apart from the R 8 any used bolt action you test shoot, fits, you like and is accurate is as good as any. New the M3 should be a nice rifle for a straight pull there are the Heym or the steel action don't know about the availability.
@mohammadmehdi87116 жыл бұрын
@@ragnar338 thanks very much for the advice much appreciated and I'll keep your advice in my mind Thanks again and best regards Romeo
@19429195 жыл бұрын
Try sauer 404, you can change barels
@yuriys.63526 жыл бұрын
👏
@TheSprinklator5 жыл бұрын
In regards to the Heym SR30; do the forward ball bearings seat into individual pockets milled into the receiver wall when in battery, or do they share a common recessed "groove" when bolt is locked? Thanks, Eric.
@UnitedStatesOfGuns5 жыл бұрын
Hi Eric - I'll have to check - good question - and get back to you.
@SUPERDUCO3 жыл бұрын
Hi Eric. Here a late answer. The sr30 lockes info one single grove. Do note that the contact surface of the ball bearings with the housing is far les due to the shape of the housing because it is a chamfer and not a fillet.
@misomalu5 жыл бұрын
I definitely agree that the SR-30 has a stronger lockup than the R8. As far as I know, some R93s have blown up due to people loading ammo above the pressure limit of the caliber, which is why the R8 has a significantly stronger lockup than the R93.
@SUPERDUCO3 жыл бұрын
R8 14.500bar tested. Heym 8000 bar
@haagy132 жыл бұрын
@@SUPERDUCO Where are you getting 8,000 bar? He provides a link above which seems to show a test showing the Heym handling 10,700 bar without failure.
@SUPERDUCO2 жыл бұрын
@@haagy13 Yes and tested by Heym themeselves. No Independed C.I.P. accredited Suhl proofhouse. The question is why don’t they do this test with the higher pressers at a independed test facility. Please note that i have owner 4 Heyms. And if the shape of the stock woud be more ergonomical i would concider bying a new one. But for now blaser fits me better.
@SUPERDUCO2 жыл бұрын
Please note that Heym uses round ballbaerings. This means high preak presures at a small contact area because of the radious. locking into the housing and not the barrel.
@user-rm6pg9jy6u3 жыл бұрын
👍😁👍!!!
@blub646 Жыл бұрын
What do you say about the security of the Locking system of the Blaser R8? Many say it's a security problem. But I don't know if these are correct or only haters....
@UnitedStatesOfGuns Жыл бұрын
Hi Roman - Both the R93 and R8 are extremely strong actions. The locking surface of the collet and the radial aspect of locking make for remarkable pressure resistance. I've seen some actions of just about every kind fail - from Mausers to Krags to single shot shotguns - and the Blasers are hard to find in failed condition. With enough pressure every action fails - but the R8 and R93 are near the top for strength. I own an R8 in .500 Jeffery - and other high pressure cartridges - the action runs without a glitch. Factory ammo is pretty reliable these days.
@blub646 Жыл бұрын
@@UnitedStatesOfGuns thank you for your answer!!! Iam at the decision what I should buy as my first weapon and i don't know what to buy ... But the r8 is one of my favorites if I can spend so much money. As cartridge I would like the 30-06.
@darkazion6 жыл бұрын
Great video, as always, thank you! Just brainstorming: can Blaser system be seen as more reliable to withstand high pressure since the calibers of Blaser go up to 500 Jeffery and SR 30 till 375 Ruger?
@UnitedStatesOfGuns6 жыл бұрын
Thank you. It is only the action and magazine that limits cartridge size. The SR 30 can take any pressure.
@UnitedStatesOfGuns6 жыл бұрын
The Blaser R8 is larger and can accommodate the big cases. As far as strength goes, the SR30 and the Blaser can easily handle the pressures involved. I have a hunch the SR30 is stronger though.
@darkazion6 жыл бұрын
@@UnitedStatesOfGuns Thank you for the clarification!
@SUPERDUCO3 жыл бұрын
@@UnitedStatesOfGuns no blaser is 14.500 bar
@lddtyrone5 жыл бұрын
Which is the most accurate? Heym vs Sauer 404 vs Blaser R8?
@UnitedStatesOfGuns5 жыл бұрын
Good question - I can only speak for the rifles I've owned and fired. The Heym SR21/SR30/Safari provided the smallest groups by far. The SR30 action harmonics must be especially favorable as that rifle produces benchrest - like accuracy.
@maximilianfranz21586 жыл бұрын
makes me proud be german! Excelent quality rifles, just like Korth pistols.
@UnitedStatesOfGuns6 жыл бұрын
Yes, you have a lot to be proud of.
@maximilianfranz21586 жыл бұрын
USOG yeah, did you know that the pistol was a german invention? Back in the 15. century when the first crude ones appeared in italy, it was a part of germany.
@ragnar3386 жыл бұрын
I don't know if the Italians would agree :D and i would guess the Holy Roman Empire of German nation saw them as governed by and allied to their federal aristocracy like the czechs not as part of the German nation.
@maximilianfranz21586 жыл бұрын
Ragnar 33 its all about perspektive :)
@johnkendall69626 жыл бұрын
That Heym is a beautiful rifle I'm not familiar with it . Where is it made.
@matlagningsnytt26456 жыл бұрын
They are made in Germany.
@johnkendall69626 жыл бұрын
Thank you
@MVarminter6 жыл бұрын
I am just queries, what is your profession, what you do for a living ?
@UnitedStatesOfGuns6 жыл бұрын
Investment banking and consulting.
@frufru00715 жыл бұрын
I guess that $3000 (Canadian) is a good price for an SR30?
@SuburbanBushwacker4 жыл бұрын
Worth noting the the rifle shown has one of the spendy option stocks, IIRC 500 E on top of the list price.
@PrimetimeNut6 жыл бұрын
Anyone in WA state selling a nice pre-64 Winchester Model 70? Looking for my first and lifetime hunting rifle... thanks
@maverickpaladin41553 жыл бұрын
Did Savage buy Heym?
@UnitedStatesOfGuns3 жыл бұрын
Hi - I don't think so; although the new Savage straight pull has some strong Heym features.
@SUPERDUCO3 жыл бұрын
@@UnitedStatesOfGuns booth the Stavage and Heym are baard on an Anschütz system
@none-ya-dam8216 жыл бұрын
What's with the random picture of watermelon on your wall?
@UnitedStatesOfGuns6 жыл бұрын
Hi Paul, I couldn't bring myself to shoot those watermelons (which seems to be quite popular on the web) so my set design person put a picture up to offer people that warm and fuzzy watermelon feeling. Maybe I should take it down?
@none-ya-dam8216 жыл бұрын
@@UnitedStatesOfGuns Lol... Now that I know the story it's funny. Nah... Leave it, it's a conversation piece. Thanks Have a great day.
@jesusoftheapes3 жыл бұрын
I see all your rifles and i do not see any signs you are using them for anything .
@UnitedStatesOfGuns3 жыл бұрын
The fate of the collector : ( It is true I don't get out shooting as much as I'd like to.
@jesusoftheapes3 жыл бұрын
@@UnitedStatesOfGuns The only reason to own a firearm is to shoot them . I collect some myself and I make sure to take as many animals as possible with the treasures because after I can no longer roam the woods I would regret not seeing what the rifles I collect do in use . I mean how much can you know about a rifle if you have not used to to shoot game ? Targets are fun but they do not show you what the rifle was built for . Collecting is great but not if its at the cost of using these treasures . Guns get sad when they are not fired . They are made to be shot and should be without fear even if they hold value . You know what you are doing enough to keep a nice rifle in shape even if you use it . The best thing about a collection is that you can rotate and keep them at a very little use level and still get to use them . Why own if you do not shoot um? the reason they are significant firearms in the first place is because they make shooting a joy . It would be an injustice to you not to use them from time to time . Good content . You have one hell of a nice rifle collection . Most of the versions you own are extremely functional hunting rifles that deserve a little blood on the stock . I hope to see you afield .