HHO Engine Running on Hydrogen and Oxygen Gas 5-31-2008

[@ryanadams711]

At least you have the guts to experiment and actually share your results. Great start, and eventually you'll get your fuel ratios and timing figured out :) Thanks for sharing.

[@bloodsweatandtearsforeverl9833]

Look up the fire triangle

[@rdlineberry]

Gasoline vapor does not "pop" when ignited, it makes a "whoosh" sound but HHO will pop loud enough to make your ears ring. This is because the gases expand faster than the speed of sound. This means the flame inside the combustion chamber moves faster than the speed of sound, igniting more of the gasoline droplets quicker and allowing more of the gasoline to burn completely. The gasses will hit the top of the piston near the speed of sound, converting more mechanical energy to the piston.

[@MattBlytheTheOne]

what's impressive is that he is squirting the HHO straight into the carbs intake, which is also sucking in oxygen from the atmosphere, into a engine designed and tuned to run on gasoline...and it still runs!!

[@sdkenclosures2892]

You are on the compression release thats why it is back fireing it never spun fast enough to sling the compression release weight out

[@bloodsweatandtearsforeverl9833]

If you hook it directly to the fuel source it will blow up, you have to make a percolator like how a bong has and it will reduce the chances of the flame going back up the line and exploding your reaction chamber

[@grombleguy3730]

you can run those engines off of almost anything. yesterday i started and ran one off of a can of deodorant when the carburetor of the cement mixer clogged up. have you tried to up the flow rate of the incoming gas? you will most probably get it to run similarly to what it would on gasoline, as for the timing on those there is most probably a pick up on the flywheel that can be welded up and grinded away to move the time of spark forwards or backwards. You could also remove the the carb completely and use a 1" metal tube for intake with a 3/8" copper tube into that for the gas. put some pressure behind it and control the speed of the motor with a flow meter on the 3/8" tube similar to those used on mig welders. check out cody's lab(youtube channel, good lad) where he builds an electrolyser that seperates the o2 and h2 to use for cutting and brazing. that can be modified to use as a stored fuel source running the motor out of a gas reserve. I'm just speculating here but with a little fine tuning you could make something quite viable and off grid if you take the time to do the homework.

[@eatyourveggies2167]

I was thinking "Hmm When's it gonna backfire? And goes BOOM!

[@danyala.1659]

VanityTheMaster Hydrogen isn't that dangerous fool! Three quarters of the universe is hydrogen. You may have even breathed some hydrogen in before. If you put hydrogen on fire it will just pop.

[@dezzier]

+Danyal Ahmad i believe some of our atmosphere is hydrogen so we are breathing it right now :p

[@danyala.1659]

N00bular Dayz Me Rollin' That's what I meant to say.

[@dezzier]

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[@AndreaGanora]

Hi I've noticed you' ve been filling the baloon for approx 1 minute and whit the collected hho you' ve been able to run the engine idling for approx 1 minut 20 seconds. That should mean that your welder produces enough hho to run that engine continuosly. Just for the sake of curiosity, I't b great to compare the cost of the used electricity to the cost of the fuel for the same running time period : ) Nice video, Thanks

[@briankuhn7396]

I know this was posted 12 years ago, but do we have any idea how many LPM a balloon flows through that hose/nozzle? Great idea using the ballon for a nearly constant flow rate at the beginning. I guess I’ll be doing some testing of my own.

[@eastkyphotos]

good job!!! You put alot of work into this and other videos don't let the children bring you down they are full of ego and pride with no interest of helping others only bringing them down!!!!

[@Leftwings22]

Great job guys. I also very much appreciate your open source mentality on the FBA, as well as other things. As long as we keep working TOGETHER sharing information, we will crack the code and make things different in the world for everyone. Onve again, great job! Lefty

[@shawnndixon5254]

big company's will never invest into this because there's no money in it. its our job to change the future i guess and it starts with HHO cars.

[@Tinkerdamit]

Guys, cool demo, its great that you are exploring this subject. I know you can run an engine with HHO as you have demonstrated, but I believe the holy grail of all this would be effeicent production of the gas. You may have already adressed this and if so , I appologize. I can make a cell to produce any amount of HHO that one would need, however it may also dim the lights on a big city. Effeicent production is the key. I'm still learning, and I thank you for your dedication.

[@MHLivestreams]

The quest for over unity continues! It's possible to run a 4stroke generator (creating enough energy to make it's own gas) to at least gather the heat from the process. What I've gleaned is that any real external load attempt stops the engine.

[@erikkristjansen8631]

The intake valve doesn't have a chance to close before ignition takes place because HHO ignites and expands much faster than an air fuel mixture.Thats why your engine is backfiring.

[@mspenrice]

And I'm still marvelling at how you can take something that's a pure compound of H + O, split it to just those, and somehow then have a molecule with H23 in it ... that will readily burn in a normal automotive engine just with a tweak to the timing. You can't even burn decane in one, usually, without tons of smoke and a marked loss of power and efficiency, even with radically altered timing.

[@mspenrice]

Be sure to call us when your astounding breakthrough makes the international headlines, Kassim. Good luck. (think we'll ever hear from him again?)

[@electronicsand3dprintingfu49]

They've even been requiring new cars to be more and more fuel efficient every year and have already planned to ban gasoline powered cars pretty soon, every cars manufacturer dreams to make their caar the most efficient and cheap to operate so if you think there's a conspiracy to make cars gasoline powered or inefficient you're just beyond being capable of grasping reality.

[@juggernautxtr]

@enschum problem is stan was not running on just HHO he was injecting water into the engine. HHO was just a fuel to heat the water to steam in the cylinder. if steam becomes hot enough it also will separate into it's components of hydrogen and oxygen and ignite causing more ignition.

[@koncertLive]

you know what else works for flashback? 3 different grades of steel wool from fine to coarse in a pvc tube, cheap and easy to make in all different sizes

[@Jacob-vn1qi]

I wonder if you could hook up an alternator to the hydrogen powered engine and possibly power the hydrogen electrolysis process

[@iamawesome69]

same Idea

[@mspenrice]

For example, if you're in Europe, a pre-1996 VW Polo will do you just fine, as all their engines used mechanical timing advance (even the ones with a solid state coil used mechanically adjusted triggering). I suspect Golfs of a similar vintage, or maybe slightly older, had a matching setup. I should know, I owned one, and had to reset the timing after overhauling it by rotating the distributor back and forth. And any half decent chip-tuner can alter your ignition mapping for you quite cheaply.

[@johnpalmer3273]

the back fire is the timing because hho burns very quickly you need to light it at tdc this is basic hho stuff , unless you mix the hho with non combustible gasses to change the burn rate you have to change the timing pull the flywheel take the key out and figure out where tdc is basically its like 10 degrees opposite of normal rotation . the engine is fighting itself

[@SamMonkulas]

I was really impressed as to your guts of filling a Ballon and trying to make it safe trial. I was really trying to find if someone has ran a small 4-stroke engine like you have shown solely on HHO gas and here you are showing the video. One question is that how many Liters per Min of Output would you need from a HHO generator in order to run that Engine of that size (probably 100cc Engine). Your comments will be very helpful.

[@beyondhelp00]

Agree it was a lean back fire, helped also by cam overlap period. The engine was idling very low indeed.

[@bassbone1785]

It's because the hydrogen burns at a FASTER rate rather than instantaneous as you said. And the reason it's back firing is because the engine has too advanced ignition timing and because it's running too slowly. If you were to have the engine throttled up a fair amount via bypassing the governor and having the throttle held more open, you'd have much less issues with it. You may not even have to adjust the ignition if you can get it running faster.

[@justsaying2000]

Part of my background is as an Automotive technician, and have worked on all manner of vehicles/engines for years. I also hold an MSc in Oil and Gas Engineering, so know a thing or two about this subject. The "pop" you talk about, needed for the combustion stroke in an engine - the amount of Hydrogen that is produced from these "HHO generators", the force/energy required from the explosion created, is next to nothing from the Hydrogen produced. No effect on an engine whatsoever.

[@einsteindrieu]

It's amazing how simple the hho device can be to convert water to hho .U need to metal plate and 2 wires and a battery source and water . That is it . I will try just wires spread in water and a battery source to get hho . Do we need the plates ?

[@mrmike1271]

just a fyi I think your engine would run a little better if you get just a little more rpm going....there is a cintrifical decompression arm connected to the cam shaft to prematurly releave head pressure...the reason for the pressure relief is to make the engine easier to start by reducing the compression...so what im getting at is dont judge how the engine runs just by the way it is idling...I hope this makes since...I know I can't spell

[@jonmatcor]

Both of you are right. The mixture is too lean because the perfect HHO ratio is offset by outside air. when outside air is inhaled, other molecules like nitrogen make it backfire and idle roughly. secondly the timing plays an important role, Rpm is essential. the timing between explosion and implosion has to be just right. otherwise the implosion of the H2O after the explosion stroke will dim the engine. and finally cylinder temperature must also be right. Overall a Great demonstration!

[@laveniashaw5604]

I was doing this in the 90's, running a 5 hp petrol engine on Brown 's Gas made by solar panels. The gas was fed through a water column and taken off the top to prevent burn back. I had my engine running at full throttle as smooth as silk. Not timing adjustment being necessary.. was very sad at the passing of professor Brown.

[@m3sca1]

if you pay attention to the concepts described by Stan Meyers for adjusting the burn rate to match the engine,then its a short leap of thought to mixing welding gas with the HHO to reduce the burn rate. you would want to seal the intake also,to stop mixing air at unmetered doses. great job5 stars and favoured

[@villeturjanmaa373]

Thank you for a very practical demo.

[@mspenrice]

(A Nissan Leaf also uses just over 15.5kW to cruise at 60mph - seems high considering the slippery shape, but its consumption is measured at the battery and so includes various system losses that raises it vs the actual motor output. If you measured the chemical energy being transferred from an ICE's tank, it'd be much, much higher - 40kW or more. At that rate, it'll burn through its battery pack's entire "recommended" charge range in about an hour also...But 18 charges only cost £36 / $55!)

[@mspenrice]

Just because you've changed the method of energy conversion and transfer doesn't mean you're not converting and transferring energy, and thus have somehow become immune to entropy. Even a direct shaft connection with no bearings along the way has some losses - a tiny bit of air drag, some vibration that ends up transmuting to heat... in fact even in a vacuum, the latter remains. And chemical reactions are often way more lossy than mechanical connections, and very variable in that to boot.

[@eng.chandanawimaladasa2517]

It s a good demonstration. Thank you for your effort. Eng.Chandana

[@kdknitro]

this works, only thing is that gas actually helps cool and lubricate the cylinder walls on the motor, but this will work with advancements. but we will still need oil to lubricate all the bearing in motor

[@wernerempire]

Very interesting. Thanks for the vid. Any progress on getting rid of the backfiring yet?

[@jameslargen284]

4 years later and no reply... Big oil, um, "oiled him"...

[@gtirpulsardan]

the back firing is the decompressor lifting the inlet valve on the compression stroke all you need to be is go above the rpm that switchs the decompressor off

[@saintron60]

Rust is not a problem. Recombination does not happen until the gases are cooled by the exhaust pipes as it leaves the car. Most people are not aware of the fact that because the speed the gases explode. A vacume is created by it. That is why engines run cooler than when using slow burning petro-products.

[@mspenrice]

No, you use Gasoline along with it so the user doesn't see how quickly the paltry amount of HHO these generators produce is used up. Most people don't bother checking their actual economy. How much hydrogen did you use to run that engine, how long did it take to produce, at what electrical load? How big a tank did you use to store it? What power was measured as coming off the crank, if any? And where on the exhaust was the temperature measured? HC exhaust isn't at 200 when it finally vents.

[@Tom_Goss]

@EpicHeroSandwich The carb wouldn't be useless... it is still regulating airflow. Without it, rpm's would just rev till the motor blew as long as there was "fuel" to burn.

[@justsaying2000]

HHO generators consume electricity to create HHO gas. The car’s electrical system is drained significantly by an electrolyzer system. That means the battery or the alternator is drained. Alternators and generators convert mechanical energy to electrical energy, which is required to run an HHO generator, but the problem is that they resist their mechanical power source more as the current demand on them is increased.

[@carlpitman8920]

I have changed gas engines to Propane many times. This is what i found. The Air mix has to be mixed with propane at a balance. Your Carb has a butterfly to regulate the air and at idle speed, it is mostly closed. It will not backfire with the right amount of HHO . I have run engines with no carb. and just get the Air and gas to the desired amount. For instance if the butterfly in the carb was wide open, you would need much more gas and the RPM would be very high.

[@warren52nz]

Trying to think back to my University Chemistry days so many decades ago. I think the energy comes from the difference in energy between the covalent bonds of H2 and O2 and those present in H2O. Is that right? I guess I could Google it.

[@markusgarvey]

It seems lean the mixture would be lean due to the intake. The browns gas has oxygen in it already so you could restrict the air coming in from the carb?

[@HHOGAS]

You are absolutely correct you do not need all the ambient air when you run oxyhydrogen. In the video, the copper tube went in as deep as possible through the carburetor to deliver the gas to get it as close to the intake valve as possible reducing the travel time and dilution of ambient air.

[@navneetpandit7299]

Excellent work👍👍👌👌💪💪☝️☝️🙏🙏Keep up the spirit of the truth high☝️🙏💪👌👍

[@ivicacrncec]

@mccunecp this kind mixture of gases is called stoichiometric mixture, and it is very dangerous. actually, they it can burn without a spark. or any other source of heat. it is very cool you can drive your vehicle around on HHO, but remember, it is a bomb. unless you have them separrated in different tanks. if you produce HHO gas, you can't get them separrated.

[@osamahalfaris3186]

good job, really nice, ill try this out, on a grass cutter^^ I hope that nothing explode will you one day try to compress the hho into a airtank and try it as a working and more usable fuel? that will be great

[@MrTHEORIGINALICEMAN]

Why was the balloon out of frame while the engine was running? It would be more informational to see the size/consumption.

[@justsaying2000]

What's more, since the average car's alternator can only deliver about 80A of current, this means the battery would have to deliver the other 520A and (in the case of even a good 80AH unit) would be flat in under 10 minutes. Of course these simple calculations ignore the fact that electrolysis cells are not 100% efficient and the even more important fact that the average internal combustion engine is only around 30% efficient.

[@brenohighland1168]

its all about cost at the pump not efficientcy

[@russbilzing5348]

I was wondering how a cdi equipped engine might be taught to differentiate between gasoline or Brown's gas feed. I know that computerized vehicles can vary themselves in all sorts of ways, from the timing, # of cylinders working and the timing of the valves as well. I was thinking that the temperature of the power stroke might be a determining factor but I'm not that electronically savvy

[@Hardwick0ne]

nicemw3moments you still have oil lubricating the rings and bearings in the engine. You have an explosion here in the engine cylinder which is dispersed through the egaust. You have steam here in a very small amount which is super heated and in turn cleans your valves and spark plugs. It would be hard on your egaust if you ran it constantly and did not allow the heat of the egaust the chance to dry it out. Before shutting off your engine. Other than that, you are not harming your engine at all.

[@justsaying2000]

If we assume that the electrolysis cell which converts electricity into HHO gas is 100% efficient (which it certainly isn't) then that means we'll need a massive 6000W/12V or 500 amps of current to make that much gas. Suddenly those 30A wires are looking rather inadequate aren't they?

[@mspenrice]

How much power are you getting out of that $30 panel? Last time I looked at PVs in that price range they produced a literal handful of watts. As in enough to run a cellphone charger, or maybe a camping lantern or handheld fan. The idea that you could use the output of that to power a home or a motor vehicle is barmy in the extreme. Cells that make enough power to actually be useful usually cost well into 4 figures, which is why there's still only a small percentage of homes that feature them.

[@electro1622]

you are right...valve overlap is very important in engine efficiency at certain rpm. Performance camshafts have different degrees of overlap for different performance characteristics....Waste spark is a characteristic of even modern engines...GM Holden advertise they have waste spark..!!..don't take your car to mspenrice to get fixed...lol..but you knew that..

[@37rainman]

Basicly all fuels (even including wood, newspapers,etc,etc)produce water when combusted, because they are all hydrogen fuels.

[@itsthorondil7608]

Should probably figure the electrical energy input versus comparable engine output to figure overall effective efficiency. It will most likely be far more efficient to just use an electric motor.

[@carlosandleon]

yeah but if you get the energy from the dynamo and use that to power the elextrolysis then perhaps it's not efficient but still practical because filling up a tank of water is better than charging for 8 hours

[@rdlineberry]

HHO improves combustion, but it also increases the conversion of fuel combustion to mechanical force. It does this by greatly increasing the speed of the expansion of the gasses, which hit the top of the piston at a higher speed, which moves the piston with greater force. An analogy would be a hammer hitting a nail at full swing versus trying to push the nail into the wood with the hammer without swinging it. You can use use all your strength, but the nail will not go into the wood.

[@MattBlytheTheOne]

it can be done, an engine can run on any fast burning fuel if it is tuned to that effect! it is just more economical to make a HHO/gas conversion on most car engines, for the average guy on the street.

[@mspenrice]

(Never mind that a molecule that heavy is unlikely to be a gas, or even a particularly runny liquid, at room temperature. Decane (C10H22) is already noticably thicker/heavier than water and requires use of some kind of injector or other atomiser to vaporise into a combustible air-fuel mixture... Even the much lighter Pentane (C5H12) doesn't boil off until about 37 celcius...)

[@HHOhybridBuilder]

Good job Pete.So that was a 5.5 HP Honda engine and there was no mods done on the engine? Thanks for posting.

[@trailgaze]

good experiment. I understand that the spark needs to be arrested on the exhaust cycle in order to prevent backfire.

[@Prometheus203]

@logtothebase2 I was agreeing with you that its easier to just use gasoline in a more efficient manner, my comment about the chemical generation of hydrogen was only to say that it is much more effective than electrolysis. In reality there is only one "source of energy", the gravitational effect caused by the temporal distortion of space time by matter... Everything else contains energy generated from that source and releasing it just transfers energy contained to reach a state of equilibrium.

[@EpicHeroSandwich]

yes, but there's simpler devices to limit/regulate airflow. namely, torch regulators do a pretty good job of it.

[@warren52nz]

You're right. I made some "HHO" (I don't like the name as it's misleading) and did something stupid (put a match where it was coming out of the pipe!) and it blew the funnel which was collecting the gases from on top of a stainless steel tube and glues on right off quite spectacularly. And that wasn't contained, I mean the whole assembly was just sitting in water. That's when I realised that you couldn't treat it like H2 gas which doesn't get O2 until it gets out of the tube so you CAN do this.

[@CapeComorinStudios]

What is the ratio of the H2&O2 combustion process?? Pls tell me the answer quickly......

[@randypratt2887]

You should build your own fuel cell using carbon rods or graphite plates way more efficient and look into the TEG thermal electric generator attached to exhaust and cooled by AC lines and solar in combination with the alternator and battery

[@masmagalingako]

We knw that internal comb engine will run on hydrogen/oxygen ryt? It'll be nice to see if the mech power produced by the engine can turn an electric generator that can produce enough to sustain production of hho and power up an appliance, then we can say that we have a system fueled by water...

[@mspenrice]

*high pressure steam boiler, sorry. Not steam generator. They're what you use for stripping wallpaper :) Consider an AC unit connected to the crankshaft of a car engine via a belt. That's using some of the energy produced by burning hexane/octane/decane (making a lot of heat in the process) to drive an air cooling and dehumidifying system. And when you do, your fuel efficiency goes down - it doesn't "work" for "free". Converting water to/from HHO requires a very inefficient energy transfer...

[@slikdarelic]

very good demonstration.. thk u for this

[@mspenrice]

In fact, a quick google and a click on the first link that actually featured a purchaseable solar panel (rather than a "$30m solar scheme" or whatever) saw me looking at a 30 watt one ... ok, close enough, we can work with that. RRP £80, which is approx $120. Divide both by 4, ignoring that larger/higher output panels are usually cheaper per-watt... That's 7.5 watts for $30. Wow, so amazing. I could very nearly run a netbook on that. But not quite.

[@mspenrice]

The first practical ICEs were themselves hydrogen powered - FACT. However, we soon switched over to powering them from benzine for some reason, even though it was then not particularly easy to get hold of in large quantities as it was used mainly as a low-volume detergent. Could be because, even though the H2 ones were already a bit more efficient/safer than a small steam engine for low-powered uses, it was found to be much more efficient to produce and burn benzine (aka gasoline)

[@beyondhelp00]

A double rotor wankle engine displaces 2.6 litres of air (assuming 100% vme) per crank rotation. This means at 4000 rpm it would consume approximately 1040 litres per minute... at 60% vme that gives 624 litres. Basically your welder doesn't put out enough a an hour to run the engine at full load for a minute... (btw there are minor errors/omissions with the above example to simplify it, as it purely aims to show just how much you would need)

[@AG-nn2ul]

Its common understanding that any ICE will run on HHO of course its flammable. The question is if its going to be more efficient or atleast be able to generate enough power to produce HHO gas to run itself and not from a welding machine that is Using up more energy than what can be produced out of the running engine...

[@jesuscristmysaviour]

pjackt well i congratulate you for your videos i saw al your videos but i just wonder how much presure you need to run a car with hho i saw another video with a HHO DRY CELL and they explained that we need about 55 amps and it will produce about 60 psi of presure but i also wonder how we compres the hho gas

[@jerw9797]

The backfiring is also from too lean a fuel mixture. The engines governor is holding the throttle butterfly wide open waiting for engine speed to reach governed speed. Try covering the choke plate more or completely...after all the fuel is already mixed with oxygen...it shouldnt really need any extra air

[@111alien111]

agreed, but you would just skip out the engine and the HHo part and just have the solar panels provide power for an electric motor.

[@ohnoitsaninja]

The reason really is not enough fuel. Instead of a using a 5.5 engine(which uses more gas than you think) you should try a 2hp model, and I know that you will see much better results, and I would love to see a video of it.

[@someoldguy0]

well heres what ya do, you have solar panels charge the batteries, then the batteries produce all the gas you can use, the engine should be running a generator, which can power whatever is needed, it may be a bit complicated but I have the above setup and it does work, so it matters little how much energy it takes to split the HHo out since the sun is endless and does not send me a bill, the startup cost is high though but you can build solar panels yourself, and you can make batteries too..

[@mspenrice]

...nor the relationship of the camshaft to the crankshaft, which is something you should NEVER mess with unless it's already slipped out of true, OR you know EXACTLY what you're doing.

[@mspenrice]

(because, as I pointed out before, small Honda engines - same as the Renault one - are non-interference. Only one valve is open at a time, they're always closed at TDC and before the spark fires, and even if it DOES use a wasted spark ignition system, it makes no difference as the plug would fire a little before TDC on the exhaust stroke ... where exactly do you suggest the gout of flame is coming from, with the spark firing into dead air long before the next load of fuel-air mix is introduced?)

[@WizzleThump]

I love your velcro shoes.

[@kenzieface101]

Do those small Nylon rally work with just the pressure from a balloon... because lots have to have like 50lb. pressure to work... so are they low pressure arresters...

[@highwaltage]

imagine if roads were built with copper rods or wires in them and these branched off into houses and such creating a 'grid' then the excess power from your hho car's turbine would then be discharged onto the road and used by everyone :D eliminating the need for powerstations as driving your car would effectively power your home. just an idea that popped into my head just now.

[@p0k7lm]

Tnx 4 video !👍☺🔧🔩🔨📐🔬📚

[@robbedoes1985]

hahaha pull girl pull!! but the clue was to generate HHO, we already knew engines will run on HHO. the second clue was to make usable power(5hp) from an HHO powered engine.but still don't take it as negative comment, keep up the good work!

[@karszniczaninkarsznicki5753]

Proszę przestawić zapłon lekko do przodu tak, aby następował chwilę po przejściu tłoka po punkcie sprężania. Wodór szybciej się spala od benzyny. Pozdrawiam z Polski. Please shift the ignition slightly forward so that it is just a moment after the piston passes the compression point. Hydrogen burns up faster than gasoline. Greetings from Poland.

[@111alien111]

i was just about to post the same question how weird, i dont think so though i think it takes more energy to split the molecules than you can produce by the engine, otherwise it would make a self sustaining motor.

[@vinmorin]

What if we were converting water into hydrogen using renewable energy? From what I gather over the years, the sun, wind and water currents have been producing lots of energy on a daily basis. Gotta think outside the box sometimes...

[@erikkristjansen8631]

Yeah! set the ignition timing so that combustion and expansion happens after or during the piston at top dead center.That will push the piston on the down stroke , instead of out the carburetor. pass the word. Good luck.

[@mspenrice]

"Valve overlap", mate. Where in the cycle do you suggest this is happening, such that the flamefront is able to escape out of the intake valve? The only possible scenario I can think for this is a non-interference engine design (that or one with a REALLY weird multi-lobe cam), such as an old Hemi or other pushrod gas-guzzler, where the exhaust port may remain open for a short while at the same time as the inlet port, as the piston crosses through TDC between the exhaust and intake strokes.

[@einsteindrieu]

HHO WORKS -i BUILT 4 DEVICES-THANK U !

[@dslynx]

Well, the benefit of HHO production over full electric would be availability of the fuel source. Of course, we are talking theory here, but the main drawback of an EV is distance. Until there are just as many charging stations as there are gas stations, people will still be reluctant to go with an EV. On the other hand, if you can greatly increase your MPG just by adding an HHO generator and modding the computer to work with it (if laws would allow it), it would get us one step away from oil.

[@brenohighland1168]

less emissions as well

[@Ponlets]

so if i wanted to add an HHO generator to my car but make it run as a petrol HHO hybrid ... do i just put the out put of the HHO generator cell in front of the air intake of the car?

[@rafaelfelix4227]

I like to lern more abaut hydrogen cell olso like to bilt one for my use

[@mspenrice]

And just because you're "sure" in your convictions doesn't necessarily make you right. How long did you run the generator for (the power means nothing without a duration - stating only that is as pointless as crowing about an engine's torque without also stating rev range, gearing and kerb weight), how long did the engine run for - with no fuel input AT ALL other than the HHO - and how much useful work did it do during that run?

[@htcooley04]

so cool I love the concept

[@highwaltage]

nice work. in a car application, we've all seen the hho cells powered by the alternator and battery of a car. thats all well and good but! its still inefficient as the wasted steam goes out the exhaust. now what if you placed a steam turbine in the car and ran the exhaust into that to create DC current. that would be an over efficient engine :D this could power electric motors for an electric car using only a small twin or single cylinder engine to create the steam needed for the turbine.

[@mspenrice]

Basically what you're doing there is using the gas cell and ICE as a very inefficient (but fairly similar overall capacity) supercapacitor connected to a battery with a low overall output power. All the same, with no input from some other energy source - which includes connecting the battery to a charger - you'll soon find it's run down and stranded. Even if you have a Tesla's worth of batteries. If a regular car battery, you might make it, ooh, 2 whole miles? (vs 4~5 connecting it to a motor)

[@mspenrice]

Even that's giving them too much credit. Remember that when you put a load on the alternator (so that it produces usable electricity instead of just being a pretty piece of spinning metal*), that creates drag. To overcome that you have to burn more fuel in the engine... using more net energy than the alternator makes. Overall, it's a loss. *for the purposes of this demo we assume the alt is connected ONLY to the HHO genny, & all the normal electrical systems are running entirely off the battery

[@mspenrice]

Otherwise, if you try and have both valves open... the piston reaches TDC at the end of the exhaust stroke / start of the intake stroke, and ... BANG. You've bent both valves, probably caused some damage to the cam and piston, and ruined your engine. Were you maybe thinking of a 2-stroke?

[@mccunecp]

cool only if I could aford one of those HHO generators in all its cool just need to build a presure tank to hold the gas so you can send more to the tank at once but its all cool. thanks for the video.