Honestly, I wouldn’t worry about getting rid of the Troopy. This thing will look tough as heck with some off-road accessories, a paint job/ wrap and some different wheels/ tyres. Tired of seeing 70 series content all over KZbin (you were one of the originals and did it justice so you are forgiven) but I feel like this build, if done tastefully, will bring a far bigger and more enthusiastic audience than what you already have from Landcruiser content. A 4x4 bus is so refreshing to see and will undoubtedly be the envy on many 4x4 and travel enthusiasts. This WILL be the car you turn around and admire at your camp sites. Imaging the Ronny Dahl episode in the future on it too!
@jaygatsby27908 ай бұрын
AGREE!
@davidmilledge2218 ай бұрын
If done correctly it's a massive game changer
@cryptidhunter99018 ай бұрын
Real overlanders on a tight budget, often use old 4WD vans. This brand new troopy build thing is mostly done by wealthy secret society youtubers with lots of corporate connections.
@drew57638 ай бұрын
Vans have always been noisy but kitted out should fix that
@Alan.livingston8 ай бұрын
And it’s not like he won’t get bored of this in a week once it’s done and sell it to start another troopy.
@heathwellsNZ8 ай бұрын
Wow, this ongoing project will be undoubtedly the best offroading/overlanding content on KZbin this year! Very very excited to follow along your journey!
@erhardt14778 ай бұрын
So … to sum things up… Andrew : „I’m not doing a direct comparison, driving first the van and then the troopy“ Heiner : „Andrew is driving the same piece of road to do a direct comparison, between the van and the troopy“ Thx guys for clearing that up 😂😂😂 The van looks amazing, can’t wait to see the progress sir 👍
@johnvaneeden14558 ай бұрын
This will change the Taxi industry in South Africa for ever !
@StuFrodsham8 ай бұрын
Nah SA taxi's go anywhere already !
@NathanDuP8 ай бұрын
You won't be able to keep it in SA, will be stolen as soon as it's in your driveway and the insurance on it will be grossly over priced because of its steal-ability and use of parts in the taxi industry.
@lazy-rabbitz8 ай бұрын
Previous generation of hiace came in 4wd, though
@robvanzyl50178 ай бұрын
Lesotho have a lot of 4x4 taxi's for many years. Just getting on with the job and putting overlanders to shame.
@samartz6 ай бұрын
Yoohoo
@johnlee46818 ай бұрын
Screw all the negative comments, I was excited for this when you announced it, just the same now!
@MrCheh8 ай бұрын
Once you throw some gear in it and give it some weight in the rear it will be substantially better and have less rear wheel spin on the simple stuff. Articulation will also feel better.
@Jacobtheunwise8 ай бұрын
My thought to considering the 2wds are way better with weight in them in every aspect I can imagine this would be the same case
@oggyoggy12998 ай бұрын
@@Jacobtheunwise In every aspect….besides acceleration, braking, cornering, fuel efficiency.
@okaadventures34468 ай бұрын
Our OKA motorhome is running a 48v system, combined with a Victron RS 6000 Multi with 12Kw of stored energy & all electrical appliances are 240v. Cost savings in cable size & weight plus the cost savings of appliances over 12v. Very excited to see this project proceeding, great work guys.
@derJackistweg8 ай бұрын
but you will still loose roughly 15% by DC>AC, all day long. And again a part of that when charging AC>DC, like Phones, Cam, PC ect.
@kopeducati8 ай бұрын
@@derJackistweg 12Kw battery bank will take you a loooong way ... ( depending on solar array )
@derJackistweg8 ай бұрын
@@kopeducati ?
@kopeducati8 ай бұрын
@@derJackistweg yep .. ?
@derJackistweg8 ай бұрын
What are you talking about? I am talking about the bad efficiency of transforming AC into DC. Looks like you do nothing about that, go ahead and learn. Has nothing to do with the size of the battery as 15% is 15%, weather on 12KW or 3KW, or or or or
@mildew44498 ай бұрын
Full salivation mode ON!!! As more of a van guy myself (vanlifer for over 15 years), this is gonna rock! This will totally do it out in the bush, no doubt about it. A pity we can't get anything similar in my side of the woods. Can't wait to see this epic build! Send it guys!!!
@cch2019928 ай бұрын
I'm new to van life and bruh what has the overland community been doing a van is the perfect overlander🤷🏼♂️lol Change my mind😅
@2UZFE8 ай бұрын
Love a new unknown Andrew, so many questions and trials to do. I look forward to watching this build with much interest.👍🍻
@Wanderhirsch8 ай бұрын
4 person 4 sleeper is what i am looking forward to see 😃 love the collab!
@stephenfox89228 ай бұрын
The camaraderie between you two is a joy to watch it’s going to be a epic build.
@AlxLaw14122 сағат бұрын
Love this project. New benchmark for the overlanding.
@TheWrongBrother8 ай бұрын
In East Africa, hiaces do bus taxi services ferrying 12 passengers ... this is a load of at least 600kg - 800kg constant doing 300km daily. Its normal to see them hit 800,000 km on the odo. This is a great choice and is basically bullet proof stock ... and with those powertrain updates should last decades.
@АлексейФадеев-у2д8 ай бұрын
В России , в Якутии очень популярны Hiace , предыдущего поколения(200) .И там они перевозят много груза и пассажиров , даже без 4 ВД....круглый год и в морозы -60C
@christopherkimbell34978 ай бұрын
It reminds me of my Sprinter 4x4. Momentum is important, each obstacle and dynamic demands a specific amount with specific timing as you cross the obstacle. It’s actually a fun drive, especially for a seasoned offroad driver. You will go to many wonderful remote places in that van.
@DavidLeane-cp2lz8 ай бұрын
So refreshing to see a driver that lifts there foot when it spins instead of flooring it digging great big holes and wrecking the track for everyone else. I have the extra long high roof version of the hiace. Been living in it for 3 years. I believe it's a better option than towing a caravan. 48 volts sounds interesting and to see how it's done.
@iamgeoffandthisismystory8 ай бұрын
Most exciting build in a looong time! Having Heiner involved brings a fresh dynamic to the channel too😆 Well done! Can't wait to see it on a trip💪🏻
@myvideoguy8 ай бұрын
16:40 this is why I'm considering these. 4 person travel, potential 4 person internal sleeping if required per location, still off-road going, not locked in to pulling a trailer. That's what I'm after. You have a new subscriber based on this.
@oliverstyant-browne86808 ай бұрын
Very excited to see how the van evolves. This is the most interested I have been in a series for some time. Can’t wait!
@taurota15548 ай бұрын
Like the variety of content on the channel.Thanks for sharing and taking us along
@petermcguinness82228 ай бұрын
I can't wait. Hurry up and build it immediately please.
@andrewhall45538 ай бұрын
Power line track and Pea gravel the perfect testing combo and all in your back yard!!!
@JasonWh7 ай бұрын
As I posted before, you taught me to drive in sand over the years. I know I mentioned I bought a fully configured PowerWagon and replaced the suspension with all King racing suspension, a goFastCamper and a TON more. I just bought another project, a '24 Subaru Outback Wilderness where I'll be lifting it 3 inches, installing coilovers with reservoirs, rear locker, 33's, full underbody protection and more! I will say the outback is really capable in sand from factory. Looking forward to the fun of a Subaru with lockers!
@salahuddinkhan76948 ай бұрын
This VAN 4x4 has the ability to overcome almost all aspects of an actual overlanding vehicle,,,very good experiment and keep it up 🎉🎉🎉
@tiakontikiadventures15368 ай бұрын
Genuinely Impressed with the ground clearance seen on the Hiace. I have a 4motion VW Transporter SWB camper conversion for x4 (Pop top), and even with the 35mm lift, I still find cautious driving is the way to go. Looking foward to the future vlogs!
@johndunn57678 ай бұрын
I’m so excited for this new build. I think it’s going to be a game changer for the overland community in Australia. Great job fellas 👍
@djevlhelvete8 ай бұрын
I am just so happy I found this channel right at this moment in time...That's a fantastic project!
@alastairsedgwick93337 ай бұрын
As someone who lived in a Hiace Commuter (100 series) full time, now full time in a Pajero with a James Baroud RTT. The comfort and convenience levels are not the same, especially in the rain. This project I'll be following with great interest
@peterofnewcastle66028 ай бұрын
Why did you not have BUS4x4 install their underbody protection kit? It provides great shielding both under the engine and under the running gear. I have taken my Hiace 4x4 to the top of Cape York as well as Fraser Island and many other offroad adventures. The van performs better off road once it is loaded with a camper fitout. As usual, running the tallest tyres possible and adjusting tyre pressures assist greatly when offroad. Sadly the wheel travel is about the same as a commodore.
@Ben1988098 ай бұрын
Super excited for this build - please keep the updates coming Andrew, no matter how small. Especially keen for Heiner's 48V plans, so awesome seeing new ideas come to life
@Belldin_Ordi8 ай бұрын
I am looking forward to see the outcome of this project as I have been thinking of a van to tour around Oz with the Mrs in a few years time.
@jurgenkrebbekx43298 ай бұрын
Epic already,you two are so much fun to watch,I’m so looking forward to this build with you both, so much knowledge and the willingness to experiment and seeing no limits,fantastic ‼️
@matthewlewis-zw3tf8 ай бұрын
I like your new van! Love the 2.8L Turbo Diesel. Just bought a 2.8L Turbo Diesel for a project Nissan 4 door Frontier 4x4, with 5spd manual gearbox and 2 spd transfer case. Will put 35 inch tires on it and a 4 inch lift. I'm very excited.
@fvandeventer8 ай бұрын
rear wheels spinning even with differential locked - could this be due to the lack of weight in the rear? I think when you guys have added your accessories to the vehicle that there will be far more grip in the rear.
@4xoverland8 ай бұрын
Actually. it was because the front axle cage had hit a huge rock.
@jetnavigator8 ай бұрын
@@4xoverlandwhy not mention that in the video? It made the van look incapable...
@LockyourHubs4WDing8 ай бұрын
That's what I thought as well, it badly needs more weight up front and a front locker.
@rolandsharp8 ай бұрын
@@jetnavigator it was incapable. It hit the rock because of low clearance
@MacSaxe8 ай бұрын
You've basically built a forward control troopy - love it
@angusmurray65788 ай бұрын
As a new dad those 4X4 adventures and long term travel options do really change! You can't really do it in a wagon anymore for longer trips. Looking forward to this series. I am hoping this type of vehicle goes relatively remote...super interesting!
@eliwgreen8 ай бұрын
Have known about the 4x4 bus conversion for some time. There are a few driving around Karratha where I live and I have always wondered what the possibility’s would be making one into a touring vehicle, I have many of the same questions. Can’t wait to follow this build. This project will be incredibly interesting. Hopefully in the future Toyota could do this from factory 🤷♂️ without sacrificing the troopy of course.
@motoface59848 ай бұрын
So excited to watch the rest of this series as I’m really leaning towards a HiAce conversion
@QLDPATTERSON8 ай бұрын
I am so very keen to see how you do the 48v setup
@andrewjones-productions8 ай бұрын
Yes. Me too. I am not electrically minded AT ALL, but I am very interested in seeing what solutions and challenges 48v brings.
@equestrianalways61328 ай бұрын
My delica 4x4 would struggle for traction when empty. But when weight is added over the rear axle it becomes 4 x more capable
@АлексейФадеев-у2д8 ай бұрын
Нету лучше велика (велосипед) , чем Митсубиси Делика😂
@chrisbainrot57318 ай бұрын
Hi Andrew, just watching now, have you queried with Bus 4x4 about front difflock yet?.
@CoolTechUS8 ай бұрын
Can't wait to see it after repainting with adventure/safari colours and offroad bullbar.
@davidhammond52648 ай бұрын
I have been considering a Hiace 4x4 for myself so it is great to see Andrew testing it out for me. Sliding doors on a van are so practical in town.
@roy_geebz8 ай бұрын
Cant wait to see how it goes with 2 tonnes of 48volt wizardry in the back 👌 very cool project team.
@ahmetsokullu18668 ай бұрын
This is the most exciting project after the Range Rover. Please don't hold back with the van. Here in the UK that van needs no improvement to off roading but huge innovation to sleep 4. You may have just answered the question for a family traveller. I am excited. Thank you.
@adolfnkuna6827 ай бұрын
Andrew, now this projects highlights your expertise in overlanding and challenges, I would be delighted to be the first in SADC to rent out this vehicles when you finally conclude this project.woww
@petrilabuschagne8 ай бұрын
Looking forward to this build. Will definitely follow this.
@kromey1118 ай бұрын
I’m sure you said it didn’t have traction control yet Heiner said it did ? As he turned it off when he jumped in
@ulrichkristensen40878 ай бұрын
Looking forward to the build, interesting choice. When you presented the Iveco 4x4 i thought maybe that would be a future choice, but i understand your quarrels with getting in and out , this is going to be fun watching.
@AccFinEco8 ай бұрын
Best 4WD review l have seen in years. Well done. Wish there were more reviews like this.
@BenardDavisKАй бұрын
Awesome stuff...I saw the 4x4 bus van and thought that it would make an excellent van for doing a 4x4 road trip with a family of 6....they even had a Granvia
@enricio8 ай бұрын
It's joyful to watch, not just the Troopy compared to the Hiace, but also the two of you. You guys could be father and son. 😁. Of course it's no honest compare but who cares. You guys will have a blast with the Hiace. 😎👏🏻👌🤸
@Denankempy8 ай бұрын
I will comment on every hiace build video! And say the same thing Andrew is the leading the overlanding and 4x4 KZbin scene other channels need to realise getting a bunch of sponsors to give you free gear to bolt is not a build series! Andrew is the expert/goat when it comes actual purpose built 4 wheel driving! 🔥🙌🏽
@Cous1nJack8 ай бұрын
He got these chassis and drivetrain upgrades given to ‘bolt on’. The videos are interesting but he’s not making anything beyond adding existing market products.
@robynetracy14403 ай бұрын
@@Cous1nJack you are wrong about Andrew’s builds not adding to the existing market. Even with the Troopy conversions Andrew has been at the forefront of so many modifications that now seem commonplace when so many have copied his ideas. With his venture into the HiAce he will once again have to initiate so many modifications and inspire the market to provide them to us all…obviously you haven’t followed his builds over the years as so many of us have. Strongly recommend you stay the course for some surprises this time.
@andrewsharman44198 ай бұрын
Loving the content and the collaboration between you two. This will be epic!
@seanchristie71508 ай бұрын
Fantastic to see something new, can't wait to see the fit out
@MrC1N38 ай бұрын
Front Swaybar disconects for trails. Weight will help the flex as well. Nice project.
@robertjohnston30998 ай бұрын
Totally agree! Front sway bar disconnect, estimate touring weight, tune shocks and springs to suit.
@outdooraussie63558 ай бұрын
I'm keen. Been talking for years about the lack of 4x4 van options in Oz... might be my next upgrade. Can't wait to see it come together... 👍👏
@chappie1438 ай бұрын
I'm very keen to see it with a wrap and a bull bar! That will make a break the look of this Kombi.
@steverichardson74628 ай бұрын
Hi Andrew... I couldn't help think that when you were chatting with Heiner there was a very strong resemblance to Ernie Wise 😂... No disrespect intended.
@rajeshramkawal82668 ай бұрын
Rear diff lock is an absolute must , front unit a nice to have . Especially in this configuration to give you best of breed tractability
@JoshSinnott978 ай бұрын
I'm not sure if the demand is there for it, but a gap in the interior for a dirt bike would be unreal
@petrbenda34068 ай бұрын
Definitely. I would like to see not only dirt bikes, but also normal bikes, e-bikes and other large things that are too impractical for pickup trucks and SUVs. The need to carry an e-bike (and charge it while on the move) made me to even consider vans for overlanding in the first place.
@sumsija798 ай бұрын
Agree. Have been looking for something that will carry me, my 2 sons and our toys for a while now!
@rawnature81488 ай бұрын
Heaps of people use vans as touring vehicles/houses.
@stephanematis8 ай бұрын
Dead on comment.
@Nick-im3sm8 ай бұрын
I'm very interested in seeing where you go with the 48v stuff. I think you'll find it's 100% amazing. I went 48v on my nomad trailer and you couldn't convince me 12v would do anything like this. I run the trailer no different than you'd run stuff in your own home. It's that good. You get to a point where you just don't even think about overloading anything since the limit is ridiculously high. As was stated, 4x the volts, means instead of my 4Kw+ inverter running at well over 300a and needing massive cables the thickness of my wrist plus the fuses needed for such a thing, I instead have the same cabling you'd use with a 1Kw inverter in a conventional 12v setup and I can run any normal appliance you'd find in a typical home. I went pretty light too inverter wise. I sized appropriate for the need of build and it's perfect. Plus! I can run a 48v DC heat pump/AC while in camp that is very efficient. Can't easily do that on 12v!
@grannieannie13718 ай бұрын
This has always been my dream. I came across the ibus conversions and thought yes this could be supercool for a proper off road camper. It will be cool to see how their version of the dream compares to mine.
@garethbaker64057 ай бұрын
Awesome project,….nice to see something diff’ than a standard 4x4 conversation. looking at a camper van build of our own, hope to get some new ideas and innovations,👍🏼
@principal78198 ай бұрын
I’m more excited about this build than anything else since I saw your first Australia troops build. If this ends up being what we expect it to be, that’s what I’m going to buy.
@ianmoore43278 ай бұрын
Can you get a front locker for it? Would larger tyres fit with some minor body trimming or would you need to undertake major operation?
@ianweal30818 ай бұрын
If you watched the build, previous video, they front diff is from a 200, so obviously a front locker is available but obviously aftermarket, Toyota haven't caught up to GWM Technology yet where dual lockers are a standard feature. Imagine that, Chinese manufacturer of minimal experience out smarting the Toyota manufacturer with years of experience.
@almostthere20248 ай бұрын
How about getting the rock sliders on quick to save the panel work with that long break over angle? Just a thought..
@MarkRose13378 ай бұрын
This is an exciting project!
@djjames65768 ай бұрын
I like the innovation instead of just doing the same as everyone else
@lukem47287 ай бұрын
Really cool vehicle & concept, looking forward to seeing more 😎
@rperron34397 ай бұрын
ASPW, I love the channel. I’m catching up on some older series. I do like what you currently have going on for builds currently. Looking forward to the finished products. However, I do have a question: in reference to the hi ace build (4 seat tourer) have ever considered, is it even possible and does anyone is aus do the following: take for instance your 2.8 auto troopy; does anyone in aus do a conversion of a troopy to add a 4 door cab to the front of the troopy? Frame extensions, driveline modifications, chassis extension? That would give you a 4 door troopy, do the rooftop tent as you usually do and possibly have the 4 passenger seats fold flat and with some planning that area could sleep the other two travelers? Two up in rooftop tent, two down in the seat area turned into a bed? This would lengthen the troopy yes. My question is: is this conversion even an option? Best to you on all upcoming adventures. 🤙🏻🇺🇸🫡
@Harleyglide038 ай бұрын
This is going to be an interesting build. Can’t wait to see it.
@32laurens8 ай бұрын
Looking at it off road I just got a vision of you guys delivering packages to the most outrageous places! I think you should name this build 'Postman Pat' as a bit of a tongue in cheek reference to the humble origins of what I have no doubt is going to be an awesome build! I remember you briefly testing out an Iveco a few years ago, I would be interested why you haven't even mentioned Iveco in this van story so far. You probably considered and rejected the idea but I would appreciate some reasoning behind it. All the best!
@adamhaslehurst8 ай бұрын
Gotta remember the van is just an empty box, the troopy is much heavier so that will actually assist in traction on these bits, I’m sure both cars have 40psi in them straight off the road too. Think of it like taking an old Sierra with nothing in it compared to a 200 series, Sierra will bounce everywhere and scrabble around, the 200s weight will assist it in maintaining traction. Interesting to see how it’ll go when it’s fitted out and 25psi in these sections. Very promising start though! Maybe a few bright leds in the cluster surround to indicate 4x4 and the locks rather than the switches?
@martintokau73268 ай бұрын
Great video guys was talking about this a hiace camper that was also off road capable also very well interested to see how this project turns out. Keep up the good work.
@finchtoob8 ай бұрын
The Hiace is pretty cool, and definitely worth doing for your purposes as a bit of an experiment. The thing that I just can't get past though is that you're looking at around $15-20k more than a troopy, for a less capable vehicle. I have to say I would choose the troopy, hands down
@jayd39318 ай бұрын
Less capable off road but much more comfortable on road. Plus, as he said, the Troopy is only good for 1-2 people.
@steinmargunnarsson37098 ай бұрын
Very intersting vehicle and the conversion to an overlander will be exciting to watch. I belive the suspension, if kept as is, will articulate more as the van gets heavier.
@paulwatson25698 ай бұрын
I always loved the idea of a van as a overland vehicle Once you add some accessories and sort a few things out it will be a great vehicle I am seriously thinking about this for myself Love it
@lexsalvador23377 ай бұрын
good job from the Philippines 🇵🇭 lots of potential and fun 😉
@hoodyr67997 ай бұрын
Loving that 48V direction Heiner...! 👌
@aussievaliant49498 ай бұрын
Very exciting for sure! I look forward to each episode, but you have upped the ante in my anticipation.
@gladicus_8 ай бұрын
I would love to see this thing vs an older 4x4 Delica. They're very popular with backpackers
@yokumato7 ай бұрын
Looking forward to the next episodes
@sizzlnm38 ай бұрын
I can't wait to see what you're going to do with the roof of the Hiace. I have a 1993 4x4 Mitsubishi Delica van with the rare Reimo pop top - this Hiace should be a pretty solid modern 4x4 van platform! I wish we got the newer Hiace in the USA. I guess I'll have to wait another 25 years with the 25 year import rule we have in the US!
@cunawarit8 ай бұрын
Not having indicators for the 4 wheel drive system is something that I hadn't thought about. That will take some getting used to. I'm just so used to seeing them on the dash and getting reasurance from that. Looks wise it is amazing! I really like it looks wise, I can't wait to see it in a different colour. And in some ways this is cooler than the Troopy, don't get me wrong the Troopy is legendary and hugely capable, but we have seen them before. A 4x4r HiAce is unusual!
@nigelmorgan34498 ай бұрын
I recon this will make a great 4x4 plenty of room in the back for a bed and comfy chair to sit back and watch TV The spare wheel underneath that’s out build a carrier on the back yes it looks fantastic
@rubiconned8 ай бұрын
I like this. This is an exciting project
@Torrox48 ай бұрын
Looking forward to this build 👍At least with a van you can add captains swivel seats in the front maximising your useable space inside 😎👌
@AussieBlueDog878 ай бұрын
I’ve seen models of this done for mines for years. Quite a few kicking around in qld, even the older snubbed nose ones.
@CampfireCruising8 ай бұрын
Great video, that vantage point as a driver has to be spectacular, more like a UTV than most road vehicles.
@autoglassmike8 ай бұрын
Great series guys looking forward to the build. I have an eseries ford van 4x4 here in USA and love it. I think the hiace is going to be awesome.
@sasquatchfoote82358 ай бұрын
The Van will be a lot better with more weight in it. Can wait to see👍🏻
@rcfp20068 ай бұрын
I love 4x4 vans! I'll miss my L400 Delica until my last breath.
@aaronhowe82498 ай бұрын
Imagine if you disconnected the front sway bar end links, gave it some proper rear springs and shocks, and a longer stroke front strut. The front spindles are beautiful pieces and the package in its entirety as far as running gear is awesome. Nice that it uses Toyota parts wherever possible.
@philipstrydomstrydom18218 ай бұрын
Great , thinking out the box.
@mikewesty28648 ай бұрын
Will be interesting to see how the van goes with some weight onboard and lower tire pressures.... loving the build
@akar27558 ай бұрын
Even if it won't be the main intention, I think it would be nice to see how much additional interest a 4x4 van build will get in your channel, noting how popular van-life content can be.
@matthewfinnigan38628 ай бұрын
I was looking at one of these in Esperance last year. I would def consider building one over a Troopy for travelling Australia.
@Ed-wy2di8 ай бұрын
Looking forward to this build. Something different for a change.
@davidlilja91807 ай бұрын
I'm loving your willingness to explore new territories. 45yrs ago I was dreaming of a CFL Holden-Bedford project as a teen. Great for my 6'2" self. The used CFL I ended up buying was not in good enough condition to proceed, and my project stalled. In the last HiAce series I discovered the Commuter virtually matched the CFL's size but more efficiently & with Toyota know how. HiAces are also available ex-Japan as 4wds, but obviously not at the level to meet true off-roading needs. As you've seen the US market focus on even longer/larger 4wd van based projects (of course), why did you select a HiAce LWB and not a SLWB version van as your base, all those seats come out easily enough?
@4xoverland7 ай бұрын
shorter wheelbase will be less of a compromise off road. If its not good off-road, this van project will fail in its objectives.
@itslev44048 ай бұрын
I bloody love this idea. I look forward to the journey!!