Hidden Changes Have Made Everything Garbage...

[@Onepeg]

(insert bait comment about playing Dungeonborne instead)

[@399-CY]

With all three other people XD

[@slorpeey7582]

GRRR

[@mikekedian1221]

Yeah go play that chivalry mod and have a coke.

[@BLaCkKsHeEp]

wow really? Dungeonborne?! im unsubbing.

[@Mustacheoro]

Graysun was in The Midnight Walkers discord asking how long it takes to get a key for the game. I have a screenshot lolol

[@sawritall4292]

Of course pdr and health got nerfed, how else is barb and ranger supposed to one shot everyone?

[@Halo-vh9ku]

even as a barb main myself this patch sucks dog cheeks quit choking on the nerf barb craze cuz you dont know how to play the game

[@JamaRift]

@@Halo-vh9ku U main barb bro, u dont know how to play the game other than W key ppl, the patch is trash because the barb buff when everyone health/survavility got super nerfed, why would the devs give Barbs even more burst dmg, when they already have the most 1 hit dmg of the game, while nering every class health/survavility? no sense, and u delete movs speed rolls from boots, but give barbs 5% more buffspeed on rage? thats crazy, u know nothing about how this game works if u think barb didnt get over buffed for no reasson... just check skynipete killing geared players with squire gear the whole day...

[@vinny6562]

@@JamaRifti love drinking the tears of non barbs yummy

[@nyrxowns]

@@Halo-vh9kuas a barb main you should uninstall yourself from earth for flaming anyone. You literally one tap 99% of the lobby regardless of how geared they are

[@Nhire]

@@Halo-vh9ku delu

[@danielskoglund6529]

The unique drop chance is such a good change… Too bad it doesnt matter too much anymore

[@reconbob2806]

pulled a unique armet with 0 good stats yesterday. its quite literally worth nothing.

[@graystone2802]

@@reconbob2806people keep saying this like it makes the game unplayable or something. A lot of "high end" items have been worthless in previous patches, either from bad balancing or oversaturation from quest rewards or whatever. "high end" items are now just roll based instead of rarity based, which honestly doesn't change much

[@FishAesthetic]

​@@graystone2802 well actually it changes a lot because they still used to have the highest base stats and now the base stats are no different.

[@gmask9990]

⁠@@graystone2802yeah bro a squire weapon doing the same damage as a legendary weapon I get as a reward for killing a boss in hell definitely “doesn’t change much”

[@gmask9990]

What’s crazy is the legendary in some cases does LESS DAMAGE than a squire weapon

[@RoninRoshi420]

I paid all this money and all I got was a test server they don't test stuff on

[@Metawraith]

That's why you don't spend money on Early Access.

[@dylancrosby2451]

Because literally no one used the test server when they did test stuff there.

[@goynus6815]

Worst patch in a while, which is funny because the patch before imo was the best patch they've ever released. The game was so fun prior to this update. Just unsure why they dropped this patch when they said its a step towards the goal and that they will add on top of it. They should have just waited and made this change with whatever they are coming up with next, whether that be socketing or something else. Instead they just dropped a patch that makes looting not fun in the slightest with no alternative.

[@viktor1master]

The loot buff was great for mě atleast but this patch ? The health pools was bullshit

[@GMcottv3]

Fun? Hell nah the only thing sdf finds fun for him and only himself - is sniffing few good lines.

[@MrGodPowered]

yeah i agree. I am still having fun with the game and the loot but man they really shoulda cooked more lol

[@dayronm5304]

" the patch before imo was the best patch they've ever released" hard copium las patch was only bug fixes :v love seeing fighters mains crying without their pdr and struggling like any other class getting 2-3hit by pve instead of only losing 5%hp each hit and complaining of why warlocks don't fight melee xD now you know why, life suck with no pdr/hpt stacking xD you don't see any warlock complaining only fighters

[@peanut_1375]

This game just was whacky after wipe. Early wipe i farmed so much troll pelt I got around 35, then somehow died so many times even gearing up really hard most of the time I lost all the profit I made from it lmao it's either asia server is bad or I suck balls even though I played 1400 hours of this god damn game.

[@darkdazOG]

The new treasure and loot changes would’ve been so so amazing if it weren’t for the gear changes. It’s actually so disappointing

[@SamuraiHonor]

I've said this for a long time. But I just wished I could be around the places where some of these decisions are made and listen in. Read a design document, be at meetings, etc. Cause the yoyo-ing on philosophy and direction gives me mental whiplash. Yet it's fascinating how they just bounce back and forth from stable to extreme game states and decisions, never seeming to retain the lessons the last outlier taught. Truly one of the most unique back and forth trainwreck / stable rides i've ever seen in game development xD

[@Krunchtastic727]

For sure. It's cool watching the direction(s) it has taken. I'm not so bent out of shape with the new patch. It's not great but I don't understand why everyone is upset. I'm sure things will get reverted. In the mean time buy legendary while they are cheap and watch them triple in price when things go back

[@if-not-now]

why not just include the Chain Lightning nerf in the patch notes? I don't understand why they do this all the time

[@magnesjberg24]

Koreans

[@DamienCloud]

They forgor

[@BenDovered1]

Nerf??? I just got taken to half health yesterday because of a guy that chain lightninged another player and it chained on to me

[@TheShizzlemop]

@@magnesjberg24 casual bigotry on youtube, who wouldve thought.

[@pronegravy1389]

sdf off the nitrous

[@Sreeeeets]

These changes, kind of as onepeg said in the last video, have been a huge boon for getting my friends who never played to play the game. The lack of required gear to destroy people makes dying mostly inconsequential. However, for me (with 1200 hours) it feels like im a disney tour guide whos been on space mountain a million times and this last patch they decided to turn on the lights in the ride lmao...

[@slorpeey7582]

based

[@Sreeeeets]

Lol thanks ​@@slorpeey7582

[@Sreeeeets]

Thanks lmao ​@slorpeey7582

[@gustavnilsson6597]

thats is a beautiful analogy goddamn

[@Sreeeeets]

​@@gustavnilsson6597 lol thanks

[@Dominossek]

There is one change you didn't mention, the Silver weapons now have increased Undead damage with higher tiers. Divine blade (blue one) gives 25% Bonus damage against undeads.

[@lemons708]

they were always like that.

[@xruyst4676]

@@lemons708no they were 15%

[@Jackleman962]

Stupid question but based on that, does demon form Warlock count as undead?

[@xruyst4676]

@@Jackleman962 undead mobs people use them for bossing usually because bosses are undead

[@Dominossek]

@@lemons708 It's okay to be wrong:)

[@lemonboi1609]

Sdf's cooking is poison

[@azurethefox]

this update killed progression love the game just i dont know what to do now

[@jokester5130]

Babe wake up, your favorite New World streamer just dropped a new video.

[@Onepeg]

LOL

[@gladlawson61]

Same comment on every streamer. Like wtf

[@morderln3082]

Is new world any good, i am curious?

[@tragc]

@@morderln3082 it's great. Highly recommend if you've never played it.

[@jojosdream]

Its actuallt so depressing takes the drive to go boss away the patch before this was so good like even if i had something i could express im going down again to get to inferno to loot now its like who cares why even loot this is horrible and so many horrible players saying "oh you cant gear check anymore?" I only take fights im forced to take i dont gear check i liked to loot hunt almost like a collection of cool gear its all gone now i had 11 unique castillion daggers i had saved for going and dieing last wipe week or whatever now they all have less dmg than the squire lol this sucks man i appreciate you actually telling the truth and not just towing the line on this one

[@DesperatePotato]

All I want is the previous patch ttk, I had so much fun in

[@dayronm5304]

love seeing fighters mains crying without their pdr and struggling like any other class getting 2-3hit by pve instead of only losing 5%hp each hit and complaining of why warlocks don't fight melee xD now you know why, life suck with no pdr/hpt stacking xD you don't see any warlock complaining only fighters about this patch bc that is the every day of non fighters classes

[@ripperfisher182250]

​@@dayronm5304 bro fighters weren't even s tier this season. Now they are only like d tier. I had no problems with fighters straight up

[@dayronm5304]

@@ripperfisher182250 you can't argue "fighters weren't even s tier" meaning that pdr is not that impactful and then cry about them being d tier... they received 0 nerfs, they can use all weapons same sprint same second wind etc.... only armor rating was nerfed and that is for every one... if you feel that they are d tier it's because you got to use to receive 5%hp-hits from every thing but that is not normal my dude

[@ripperfisher182250]

@@dayronm5304 brother. Fighters got a crazy nerf now that any armor is just objectively bad now. Effective HP is about a 40-60% drop from last patch. Second wind is weaker now (scales with HP). Overall time to kill with no protection means they are easy picking for mages, bows etc. I'm not even playing fighters this season..but now they are so easy sauce to kill. And I didn't struggle with them all season prior. All the tools the fighter had is gone. It's a ranged meta season now. The worst it's been. No body is having fun

[@dayronm5304]

@@ripperfisher182250 fighter has better stats than ranger and can use same weapons... so.... i fail to see how they are d tier... you only feel it like that because you got to use of not ever dying using fighter and forgot how to dodge or retreat or play xD most skill players complains about how unrewarding the game feels but not about fighter

[@mrperson1324]

I also uninstalled the game. Never done that before. I dont know if I'm ever coming back with SDF in charge

[@sethlaurie8726]

🤣🤣

[@CosmekPC]

same here already unistall game got 25% review bomb and lost 15% of player now lobbies feel dead in some server and there are like 8k active players in dungeon from 20k

[@dizzy4614]

At this point, Id rather play EFT/Tarkov again because looting on here is not even worth and Barbarians are mega meta now an just so overwhelming.

[@gooba9645]

I’m playing when the game comes out of early access in like 10 yesrs

[@Shapola1]

You guys are toxic and overreacting

[@ShirakuUkashi]

I am getting really tired of these hidden patches, like when its one change that didnt get added to the notes fine but this is too much

[@justly3943]

Was finally having fun with multiple different classes and grinding laughing it up and thats just not allowed per the devs i guess. Always come in when things are good and royally screw it up

[@gabrielvilaca4325]

Everything in this patch is just weird. Basically, every player now has lower HP/armor rating in general. However, the “buff” on base level gear, for example, 4/5 strenght per item, makes your damage way higher at the beginning of round. This way, you will DEAL more damage and TANK less damage.

[@BirdBobbyG]

Biggest disappointment is the fact I realllllyyyyy liked the balance of the game pre wipe, with the loot boost it made it easier to go into HR. That is what hurts it’s like everything I started to just really learn about is done. Like that I can’t keep re learning everything I only have a little bit of time to game now I feel like I gotta watch 7 KZbin videos to know what changed so I can atleast prepare for the 5 barbs spawn rushing me lol

[@Odyssey636]

the hotfix before this one was the 2nd worst one behind this one to ever hit the game. the loot boost was terrible. you were getting 4 or 5 legendaries per normal match. that equally makes gear as useless as this hotfix does. A healthy balance is what we need.

[@justinparker6117]

I don't think this patch is particularly bad. I have 2000 hours and it is still fun Good gear is still good, bad gear is now playable and not feeling like molasses. I would imagine new players really like the feeling of new gear vs old gear. Better players typically win fights even when getting vigor checked

[@ink_wtf]

well, you have a right to your awful opinion. lol.

[@dylanwysocki4406]

They need to revert this patch.

[@lemonadegalaxy4909]

It's gotta be a nightmare to try and balance this game with all the abilities and gear

[@itherealykb1317]

the PDR is honestly the best thing for the game... 190hp with over 70% PDR should not be a thing... best hidden nerf they ever made... but the patch is horrible... RIP

[@donnyboi1990]

That is with end game gear though and under 285 MS fist out, with shield + weapon it is much slower.

[@dayronm5304]

@@donnyboi1990 kzbin.info/www/bejne/fKXSqJxnibyAq9U

[@kostadinbodurov7430]

its time to take a brake and play something else for a while until someone slaps SDF vision out his head.

[@grimmy7937]

Sdf is like link from tloz throwing a bunch of food ina pot thinking he's about to make something bomb asf but just ends up making dubious food

[@MidevalGaming]

another ninja change was that any items that you had crafted on the marketplace now no longer say crafted by you. i just realized that when looking at the grimsmile rings i reposted yesterday

[@jennifermacpherson6166]

They should put all of their ideas into a poll and let the community choose what they want added or removed from the game.

[@Surxe]

This doesn’t work

[@ink_wtf]

@@Surxe it can and does. Better than implementing shit we don't want and having to go back and fix it when everyone quits playing.

[@CovertSin]

Im back again after making comments defending the patch on previous videos... playing for the day yesterday you're correct game is cooked if they don't fix it fast.

[@BroDLoki]

In a game like Tarkov, it’s not even common to die in just one or two hits; you at least have a chance to regroup, heal, or do something else. In D&D, there’s none of that because movespeed has been the ULTRA META since the beginning. Fights that are over in a second aren’t fun at all; it has nothing to do with skill but rather who gets lucky and lands the first hit. I’ve spent thousands of hours in Tarkov and hundreds in various hardcore games like DayZ, Rust, and Souls titles-I love hardcore gaming. But it has nothing to do with hardcore or skill when players can one or two-hit others in a medieval game. Why is there even gear in the game? Just give everyone base kits for all classes and we’ll have a nice battle royale title. Looting feels pointless when killing players becomes so quick. At first, getting kills feels good and you feel accomplished, but after a week, it just feels stupid and lacks any real tension when players are always taken down in two seconds. We’ve all experienced the thrill of rushing through dungeons to regroup and heal, and I don’t see that anymore. Yes, I want a hardcore game, but please one that makes sense and allows me to fully utilize my tactical skills, rather than just mindlessly slaughtering everything. Well, I’m uninstalling D&D for now; I don’t want to play a game that ultimately doesn’t appeal to me. I hope that in the future you find good competition that gives us what we truly want! Good luck with D&D; I sincerely hope you realize your mistakes after all these years and approach things differently. Best regards, Loki. my last word i just uninstall

[@itstenebro]

You get headeyed by cheaters on tarkov more than half the time lmfao

[@iimasheriiol222]

@@itstenebrofor real man has not played since the customs expansion

[@paxconsciente3352]

Yea....no The reason I don't play tarkov is because of the one tapping cheaters every game

[@BroDLoki]

@@itstenebro Yeah in dnd we dont even check when peaople are cheating if you die always in 1-2 hits see the problem? dnd have also cheaters so who is the point ? i played tarkov over 2k hours and meet a handfull cheaters so stop crying noobs

[@itstenebro]

@BroDLoki you seem a bit emotional, learn to control that lol

[@pulledpork9778]

I didn’t see any mention about necklaces, but I noticed my Ox Pendant with +10 armor rating got stealth downgraded to +6 armor rating. I wish they could be more transparent with these changes

[@nahuelmonzon3765]

Peace too, only give you 5hp now

[@woodland7218]

64.7% is not the cap, since your using defense mastery a fighter perk in calculation that means you should also account for barricade's +50 pdr and mdr when blocking. as well as taunt's +10% pdr flat. which in turn would allow you to hit the 75% pdr cap.

[@Onepeg]

Literally no one runs barricade or taunt bro.

[@joshuatinker6759]

​@@Onepeg they didn't before, at least

[@emilianomilano2460]

@@Onepeg huh? what do you mean, every competent fighter uses barricade + taunt for better pdr and mdr.

[@ham-mer-man2332]

@@Onepeg taunt sure but i always run barricade when i play shield fighter

[@saiko1271]

@@Onepegif your running a cleric comp you run taunt if your running a mag res build you run barricade aswell it’s rare but some people don’t run it definitely shouldn’t consider it into the total pdr that fighters get tho

[@Mitril47]

"you see the magical damage reduction gear less, because the game is more physical damage centric". This is only partially true. The other half (and really I'd argue 80%) of the reason nobody stacked MDR was because of the way the magic resistance curved into magic damage resistance. You needed a *full set* of magic damage resistance (or will) gear to get to meaningful magic resistance numbers. Outside of the barbuta helmet and the occultist tunic, substantial magic resistance gear brought nothing to the table in terms of primary attributes - so you would end up being slower/less vigorous/less DPSy if you chose to actually build significant quantities of MDR. There is a specific carve-out for templar armour (popular on clerics, and the very rare platelock) and the visored barbuta helm (only platelock). But beyond that, going magic resistance made you able to tank a bit more magic damage at the expense of speed, damage output and survivability against everything else (ironically, including magic itself, since you're giving up vigour, and well-equipped spellcasters WILL have true magic damage).

[@beltboxgamers7651]

Im playing alot of Warlock this season and ive noticed that when I hit with BOC the icon stays on them for much much more longer, like a whole arena round .

[@slorpeey7582]

my f2p friends have been having the best time of their lives tho

[@alexandreiss0agr276]

yes, and they will leave after 1 week or 2.

[@ossi4476]

Yeah and they will not continue to play after getting bored in a week

[@CosmekPC]

i mean no sht the game just turn into a everyone has same sht gamemode but after a week it will get boring im free to play and i was saving items to go above 124gs and they not only remove it but everyone is naked cuz of squired gear i already unistall but ill come back when the game gets good

[@saiko1271]

Who gives af their free to play

[@slorpeey7582]

@@saiko1271 they are people too! 🤣 they got market access 🥸

[@ink_wtf]

This loot/gear change absolutely murdered the game imo. That, among other, smaller annoyances, has turned me and my 1.6k hours away. I didn't get into this game because it was a participation trophy game. I got into it because it was challenging and fun working towards better gear/AP rank. Now it's just AP rank, and it's much easier. I can't get behind this. I don't understand why they insist on fixing things that weren't broken, vs things that were/are. They claim it's about making the casual player's experience better, but they already get to enjoy the game in normals. You can pvp, loot, build gear just like everyone else. Why make HR assimilate to casual players? Is that all that's left maybe? Maybe they ran everyone off and need to bring the base up. Idk. Seems to be having an opposite effect.

[@AmericaFirst-1]

Make Game Testing A Career Again! Stop with this Charging consumers to be testers.

[@zachintheb0x818]

Just got a unique emerald. Was surprised and didnt think unique treasure existed

[@MrSupedoSpade]

I legitimately uninstalled. I was looking forward to another games DLC this Thursday anyways and was hoping DaD would carry me over. After getting one shot 3 times today (one of which felt like they were cheating with wall hacks or something), i'm done. Why are the devs like this Edit: I had 780 hours fwiw

[@subjectdelta5348]

1.5k, playing since playtest 2. This is the worst I've seen the game, complete 180 from what I loved in the playtests.

[@Blank-en2wv]

What dlc?

[@NaderinZim]

@@Blank-en2wv Probably Factorio.

[@Blank-en2wv]

@@NaderinZim THAT SHIT GOT A DLC DUDE IMMA HOP ON THAT ITS ADDICTING

[@Aperson28_]

ive been farming troll instead of pvp. Made a good 20k in a few games. Hate the changes but haven't uninstalled... yet

[@Knutzi1]

they havent done anything entire wipe and now suddenly they decide to rebalance everything lol. i hope they know what they are doing and it will make sense when we get the other half of whatever this patch is supposed to be

[@n0dnarb581]

@Onepeg Idea to validate the item changes. Say they keep the fixed white stats on items (after adjusting them of course) but adjust the way the rolled values work based on item rarity. Like, a green item would cap at +1 or up to +1% and blue would be +2/2% and so on. That would solve many problems imo. Loot rarity could actually matter again once they fix the absurd base item stats. Maybe include armor/MR values in rarity as well to save PDR fighter.

[@n0dnarb581]

Example a green rapier would cap at 1% phys power but a purple would be up to 3%

[@lilx4647]

Man I’m pushing 4k hours in this game, and before this patch I liked where they were going with a lot of the changes it was refreshing and made me want to play the game more, only thing I think they should’ve changed and I’ve been saying this for awhile is the hp you can get on gear. Imo that was the main thing separating the super geared players from the lower geared players was having triple hp rolls on every piece of gear, I think that stat is the main deciding factor of being able to win a fight doesn’t matter how much damage you deal or how fast your action speed is if you die in 1-2 hits so I like that they dumbed down the hp rolls on gear but I don’t like everything else they’ve done if they would’ve just changed the hp rolls and nerfed rage and increased the move speed penalty on barbarians 2 handed weapons the game would’ve been in a great spot where it was at imo and then they could’ve focused more on adding actual content.

[@interwebspirate]

They essentially gave reddit everything they asked for, which is why the complaints confuse me. I don't necessarily like the changes, but they're what reddit has begged for daily.

[@Everliving69]

I love how they made legendary items available to everyone then made legendaries basically useless

[@tomatootamot]

There's also a hidden change that the gs requirement for HR is dropped. You can q up for HR in squire gear and nothing else

[@gdolan9]

It feels so strange that they have so many of these hidden changes. I understand them not revealing some stuff in the patch like when they released the Forgotten Castle bosses secretly as it was kinda fun to learn about it through the grapevine but having so many changes like in this video or in the patch a few ago where they changed the duration of the bard songs feels so strange. I don't understand why they hide these changes and show some. I really have no faith in this dev team anymore

[@Devildog0491]

Lower TTK = Less skill expression = more noob friendly. Nobody asked for this shit.

[@SerusKellen]

I dont hate the stat crunch, and the better loot. Its fun to me that the gear score matchmaking isnt getting minmaxed by job applicationphobic people looking for easy wins. But the survivability nerf, hp nerf, pdr nerf, plus all the other chsnges PUT TOGETHER is miserable. If i could ask for anything it would be to revert the change, keep the gear drop buff, and rethink the idea and come at it at a different angle

[@VALNARXXX]

On the one hand I like you explaining to us this changes in a good video. On the other hand i dislike this not being expressed in detail in the patchnotes or in the wiki at all.

[@vonflare4709]

i dont understand why they dont want people to be tanky in this game. it's a medieval game. if i want to wear full plate and be slow and tanky, why can't I?

[@OstrichBanana]

This can be fixed if they allowed more sub stats on gear (gloves/ boots can have max health or pdr) & higher grade gear offered a higher cap. Say +3 health in green, 6 for legendary.

[@shacklock01]

Games been boring since they removed the circle and made portals appear on the map LOL. No pressure, no movement and people just camp a portal till it opens. Bring back the old style game. When this first came out in early access on steam like two years ago, my god it was something...

[@trime1015]

I don't really care about the doom posting, game feels better to play atm. You can still kite barbs and Ranger apparently will always be stupid. I understand the appeal of stat checking, but reducing the health meta and time to kill just feels better to me. Also giving Timmy a better chance in squire gear will encourage him not to immediately uninstall the game.

[@ericmorneau8819]

SDF should've seen an optomometrist before pushing his vision. I would love to very politely ask what his ideas were and why.. Because I'm curious. Personally, I feel like I'm a good player, I have over 1100 hours and I know the game in an out. I learned to do HR version of every boss except Wyvern, I'm currently exemplar 2, maining fighter and I think I could push to Demi god without too much effort even with the current patch. There's 2 things I mainly loved in the game, that really made me stick to it. The potential Depth of pvp, The progression, which is loot base in 95% of the cases. In on patch they killed both. Now they might patch and re-buff TTK without reverted gear and at least the pvp would remain interesting. But knowing ironmace, they'll wait 1-2 week if they decide to finally revert, and it's going to be too late for this wipe. I would've been more forgiving if it was AFTER the wipe.

[@arturschneberger4465]

Pdr and health was never the problem the problem was a pdr fighter running faster than a rogue or a ranger

[@K-Aquatic]

my take as 1500 hour casual. I am still being patient and see where SDF is taking us. This Patch has reveales just how many toxic people are on Discord 😂 however because of my job i have played one round since the update as solo cleric HR. I ran into a barb, popped my divine protection and he one tapped me....then i saw he was in common gear and he was already full of loot, he didn't even loot my grimsmiles.... and i didnt get them back from the goblin merchant, that did feel bad😂

[@slimgrady6732]

The problem is it just doesn’t feel rewarding finding new items at all

[@GravyBoat1]

@onepeg please use all of your power to get them to revert the change, DaD's done for :(

[@leocrow1919]

Finally, they came out with a good patch to fix the gear gap! First good patch I've seen.

[@Metawraith]

Your pain alleviates my own. My apologies. The dungeon changes us all.

[@Quackforlife]

Theres a new animation for the zombie mob where he goes on all four im not joking i found it in goblin caves

[@troyrogers4992]

Not mentioned: Shoes of Darkness lost 3 MS to gain the 3 vigor/3 dex.

[@dilbopillobobip7528]

I have never ever said it. I never said it once, I always believed. But I've gotta say it.. I'm gonna say it.. IF THEY KEEP MAKING CHANGES LIKE THIS.. THE GAME WILL 100% DIE..

[@WholesomeCureShow]

0 incentives to play expect holding w key and 1-2 shooting people, have fun with this battle royale, keep killing in the four arenas, surely it won't get boring

[@bigtom4279]

I genuinely don’t care about Dark and Darker anymore, I wanted a hardcore gear based game where you have to be wise with what fights you take. But now it’s just midevil Call of Duty. I’m just going into high roller with 4 to 5 grey windless crossbows on Ranger and ruining someones day and that’s all ill do because gear is worthless. To everyone looking for a alternative go check out midnight walkers, they’re having a playtest right now.

[@DarkBulllet99]

Cope. spending 12 hours a day to get trash gear is boring glad they finally let people will skill shit on these kids who spend all day playing to gear check lol. Enjoy your legendaries and being bad at the game still

[@wa2k360]

imagine if they squished the bottom and the top by making the base stats just matter less. You still would have the placebo of getting way better but it would be closer.

[@semonome123]

I like the way sdf is moving things, the fact that EVEN with the best possible gear you should be afraid of dying to mobs or to others players instead of just steamroll everyone. Makes the pvp always meaningful and makes possible a player with worse gear outplay and win fights agains the sweaty boys

[@Dominossek]

Lol yea u pvp for 2 days and then what? There is no reason to play after the initial few fights. Not to mention the PvP sucks ass cuz the fights last 2 seconds, 1 if you fight barbarian or longbow

[@freezymays]

I think the way they could make uniques worth getting again if they made some additional totally new rolls for uniques. Like they add 6 totally new rolls that only uniques can have and they will always contain at least one of them or have them rolls that normally they couldn't have, like action speed for weapons or something like that

[@DeejayTwentyTwo]

They removed the instant cheese spot in ice abyss at death pit.

[@poisonddogpoisonddog6212]

I honestly knew sdf either had to add a different fighting mechanic like parrying or he’d have to majorly rework the gear system, I called it in the past.

[@alikaansimsek2034]

If this is a step towards their goal im scared to think about what their dream is…

[@indublick8568]

I really hope they back off from these changes

[@0rphros]

I am enjoying the equal playing field as someone who can only play a few games a night. But I don't think the buffs/nerfs are beneficial for the game as a whole. Gear aside, each character should more or less be equal. I like gear being equal, with nuanced benefits.

[@AkumosBDF]

I agree with the general idea that everyone you run into should be a threat if they play well. I don't agree that top end gear needs to be just very slightly more useful than base kit gear, at the end of the day it removes a lot of incentive to actually learn the PvE. If they remove that, just change the game to a BR or arena only game, goofy.

[@TenorLovey]

They better make some more big changes soon or at least revert the update until they have this figured out

[@DC_driftK]

Killed a barbarian before the update and felt normal, killed a barbarian after the update and I started sht talking and celebrating 😂

[@sethrusso45]

I’m not hating the new patch but barbs seem a bit overturned. They should lose easily another 25 health. Also the fact that common weps are basically legendary grade damage is extremely bizarre.

[@ag0nii]

Honestly the barbarian one-shotting everyone is so broken. This patch made the game not fun anymore. There is no point of playing atm

[@KingIngramII]

I’m lucky and have 2 friends that have grinded the game with me for 1300 hours since PT3. We decided to try out 7 Days to Die last week and we probably won’t be returning to DaD for a while especially after this gear change. The game was in a great state with the loot buff. No gear fear, and PVP is very fun. We’ve killed plenty in arena, we’ve killed the bosses for over a year now, and we’ve killed plenty of players in the dungeon. It’s getting stale. SDF gave me hope when he said he wants every class to have countermeasures and more combat mechanics. THAT would spice up the game.. having a melee combat system with a little more depth. Guilds would’ve also been incredible for randoms and friends alike, it would foster a social aspect to the game. They could’ve been working on a way to FILL the levels on your way down to inferno with matchmaking so players aren’t bored for 66% of content or at least implemented the “portals always open” idea way sooner. They could’ve worked on a more robust tutorial and intro for new players to actually retain them. I had several friends try the game and never pick it back up. You can only handhold and teach so much. But no. Instead of thinking ahead and working on any of these things, we get a new direction, vision, and what feels like an entirely different scope to the game. I have never felt that Ironmace is capable of taking two steps forward. It’s always 1 step forward, 2 steps back. Now they’ve taken 5 on purpose, and I’m supposed to trust it’ll be great with no communication? Nah. We’ll find other games. We held the line, Ironmace just hasn’t stepped up. P.S. stop shadow nerfing shit like chain lightning. We’ll find out eventually, just include it in the notes ffs

[@partingofways]

Why would they do all that hard stuff when they can just put a negative sign in front of all the numbers and call it steering ths ship together!

[@Prime_Logos]

I know my opinion is in the minority, but I still enjoy the game and don't care about the changes all to much. Before anyone ask, I have been playing since the start, and have used the blacksmith launcher and torrented the game.

[@BananaMeat]

Every single patch has hidden information. Ive been saying this for the past year. its the worst thing they have ever done imo. If they dont post all changes why do a changelog or patch notes?

[@Hansdaddyslim]

It’s not hidden they said they rebalanced stat rolls

[@BananaMeat]

@@Hansdaddyslim, there were hidden changes, if you watch the video it goes over more. Also "lol we did changes" isnt a change log. If they go into such details about % changes on barb and mage etc but for big stat balance changes on items go "various equipment stat changes" that isnt much of a patch log wouldnt you agree?

[@botep5529]

Looting is so unexciting now

[@399-CY]

Been playing since playtest 2. Still not tired of PvE, and never really cared too much for PvP. Game has been unbalanced for a while with WILD nerfs and buffs swinging things every patch. I freaked out after seeing the patch. I'll give it a week or two and see. Honestly been having fun with barb and ranger in the meantime.

[@chadpunte1731]

lower Time to kill is good for the health of the game. seems like positive changes.

[@JustFishBait]

of course, yall cant enjoy the game without minmaxing every single aspect of it.

[@edgardsimon983]

every single problem about the current gameplay is a derivative of the introduction of slow on hit and movespeed nerf litteraly everything, if u retrace the chain of event since p4 and u see it throught the prism of those change u understand everything about the current problem of this game i actualy want to make a video about it explaining everything and with footage gameplay comparison but im not a content creator even if i can edit and do art stuff Onepeg maybe im delusional and completely wrong but i realy doubt about it u should a video comparativ of playtest gameplay and right now cause thats what they need

[@0rphros]

I am glad the fighter bs is gone. Shouldn't have this nonsense of taking 9 damage

[@MrMaxim3]

How’s it going playing the new Mordhau clone, you ask? Well, it’s fun, just gotta wait longer to respawn XD

[@Eirenband]

Mordhau has a higher ttk than this game prepatch

[@MrMaxim3]

@@Eirenband Yea thats right :D

[@d4nnydoux]

Play test server until they revert

[@lemons708]

game feels better then it ever has tbh. gear mattered way too much.

[@VulturousStuff]

this update bricked alot of my gear and made gear i sold off last week BIS. normals feels like it had the loot stealth nerfed 20 hours farming in a luck set nothing worth using.

[@parawizard]

The patch is an obvious starting point for further refining stuff. It's hard to make this kind of change over time and it's also terrible to try and make X additional passes by yourself in development before releasing. The equipment in this game is not really interesting to me. It's completely overshadowed by non pvp rpg games like PoE, Last Epoch, Diablo 2, etc. The problem with this game is everyone I know likes normals and low gear score matches the best because it's the best pvp gameplay. Unfortunately this hampers possible builds on classes that require additional capacity to use certain skills, makes loot absolutely worthless, you aren't on the ladder, etc. The gear needed to matter less. I am not interested in getting stat checked. I am not interested in having to out trade by 2-4x the landed attacks to take someone down or just getting run over by a team that has twice my health, twice my damage and way faster than me. They could add more equipment diversity, mechanics, other loot, things to do and have better combat all the time. This game should be more akin to Tarkov where you stand a chance if you can outplay them. It's tiring to grind shit just to compete against gear check. I am also not very interested in stomping timmies. I think SDF is heading in the right direction finally. Everyone competing at the very top needs to take a step back. Lots of people I know aren't interested in such unfair PVP. They need to add stuff to satisfy the upper end of their player base to fight over.

[@Mypic-isnot-what-it-looks-like]

The game didn't need change just content,bug fixes and more balancing

[@sea3267]

so instead of playing for better gear we are playing for better rolls, now instead of looting gear I just prioritize ore's, bosses and monster drops.

[@partingofways]

Man i love getting the best ore in the game from the super badass final boss...the goblin. Feels super rewarding and encourages me to do move thrilling pve content!!1!11

[@sea3267]

@@partingofways FR FR everyone knows the goblins are the strongest Monsters in the game cave troll and cyclops are just glorified guard dogs

[@Mopuit]

PDR fighter is now dead from this change.

[@ryansoden6808]

Not sure why this is "garbage". Go with the flow. Let em cook.

[@ryansoden6808]

Correction Barb buffs is garbage lol

[@vhcxhbvg]

They need to somehow bring the vast type of builds you could make before this patch back.

[@beckermatthew28]

The game was literally perfectly fine after the last patch. All they had to do was just release new content. That's it. New maps. New animations. New skins. New modes. Thats all the game ever needed. Whoever made the decision to do this patch needs to be terminated effective immediately because hundreds if not thousands have un-installed the game and left 1 star reviews on steam - effectively costing the dev team tens of thousands of dollars in revenue. Literally the worst decision possible was made. It almost makes you wonder if this was intentional 🤔 No need to win a court case if the game kills itself right?

[@mikekedian1221]

I think it would be fair to give more pdt to fighter if it made them swing slower, move slower, and not hit as hard. Fighters have had it all for to long imho.

[@xBrotherMike]

Since the update I’ve been running around on my barb killing everyone. Literally one tapping most classes. It’s not even fun. The only thing that counters me sometimes is other barbs. I actually tried to run one of my good fighter kits that I still had and got two shotted by a barb. This game is actually fucked now lol.