Hidden Content: Making Pokemon Red/Blue/Yellow Almost Impossible

[@Pikasprey]

"You shouldn't spend all your money on drinks."

[@BigCleverName]

I wouldn't really call this "Hidden Content"

[@Pikasprey]

I will refer you to what I said in the first 30 seconds of the video.

[@BigCleverName]

You got me there

[@mcrancher4587]

Pikasprey Yellow oh baby

[@pyrrehraus6571]

"I'll spend half my money on drinks and the other half on games."

[@digitalhare4516]

“A common mistake that people make when trying to design something completely foolproof is to underestimate the ingenuity of complete fools.”

[@Dranzer_Panzer]

"Whenever they create something 100% foolproof, the universe creates a better fool."

[@pruittboy3]

That's too funny

[@Froakieninja.]

by Franziska von Karma

[@TheMadCroctor]

Froakieninja Exactly what I thought

[@kevinsanthosh3537]

@@Dranzer_Panzer good one

[@Champiness]

“...was it worried about you?” is a great line that I’m happy to know about, both because it’s genuinely kind of heartwarming and also because it’s a not-so-subtle dig at any player unintuitive enough to find themselves in the situation of releasing all their HM users

[@BloodThirstyAvengers]

I first saw that message in a randomised Nuzlocke, the first Nuzlocke I ever saw to be honest (it was awful, can't remember the content creator's name). He had a Vulpix named Naruto and tried to release it but it came back despite not knowing any HM moves (a side effect of the randomiser I think) and he kept it... then he died again and stayed dead.

[@Levicopter]

@@BloodThirstyAvengers im pretty sure the same message came up in gen 3 if your friendship was high enough as well!

[@syllogism5843]

I've never seen this! This and the safari 'pity' mode blew my mind!

[@ZaCloud-Animations___she-her]

​@@BloodThirstyAvengers Aww, that's actually sad... 🥺

[@Charles_Anthony]

You made a kid homeless on Cinnabar Island. Achievement unlocked.

[@cyanthestickman9933]

Charles Anthony you’ve just killed my brain cells

[@IceyX54]

Haha

[@kylealex1616]

LOL =_(

[@infinityguyyt]

666th like Im glad I'm a part of this

[@Bro-cx2jc]

He won't have to worry for long, the volcano eruption will kill him

[@growingoaks]

The fact that The Horde literally eats your save data on purpose goes along too well with the cover art 😂

[@nickvang7]

9:55 They changed it to the Key Item tea because Held Items had become a thing, which means if it was still Fresh Water, Lemonade or Soda Pop you could progress prematurely by trading for a Pokémon holding one of these items.

[@Staruo356]

Pokémon can't hold items in gen 1

[@nickvang7]

@@Staruo356 Exactly, but they CAN in FireRed and Leafgreen, who are Gen 3, hence why it was changed into a Key Item in those games.

[@jadethenidoran]

It could have been both

[@Fsilone]

In Red and Blue, you can lock yourself from progress early on in the game by evolving your starter before delivering Oak's Parcel. Instead of accepting the parcel, he'll rate a non-existent PokéDex, and since you haven't received a PokéDex and triggered the event, the Old Man in Viridian won't let you pass.

[@ellab114]

I guess they didn't expect you to grind that much

[@airtempest8945]

Lamarck Leland I think it's because the number of seen pokemon you have is > 1, so it thinks you have the Pokedex.

[@amzyoshio5990]

How the hell do you grind all the way to Charizard only on Route 1 and forget you didn't deliver the parcel?

[@ezrat4248]

Cadeboy 13 riiiiiiiiight..

[@jooonnnaaahhh2674]

Cadeboy 13 but you still wasted your time grinding level 2s until you get level 36? That would literally take days of nonstop playing. Shut the fuck up lol

[@GruesomeBoy]

I like that the only Pokemon in his party is called "No Hope"

[@JuanAlvarez-pc7ws]

Your comment has 666 likes 👹

[@ananttiwari1337]

@Liam Arnold you little

[@thatcrimsongamer1674]

669 😳

[@SuperNuclearBoss]

"I put a child in harms way for the sake of a KZbin video and I am okay with that." Top 10 Merciless Anime Characters

[@esans5407]

Demonitized

[@LapisCyborg]

Chaotic evil

[@brandoncubell7362]

Lowkey facts

[@amurderofdrunkcrows2587]

BUT STILL AN ADORABLE BEAN

[@jacersaygo7341]

Kid: Buy products and sell them for a lower price to the same market Pokemart: *STONKS*

[@Kod1ak777]

"Buy and sell over and over and over again to get rid of all of your money" ... Or just toss the items you bought.

[@markusruizthegodofallsupre286]

But then you can still buy more

[@Kod1ak777]

@@markusruizthegodofallsupre286 buy 10 pokeballs, sell, then buy 5, sell, then buy 2, sell, then buy one. OR buy 10 pokeballs, toss, done

[@tofuuuuuuuuuuuuu]

@@markusruizthegodofallsupre286 Step 5: Get rid of all your money

[@quinn7427]

@@markusruizthegodofallsupre286 how

[@Valtharr]

@@tofuuuuuuuuuuuuu ...buy. and toss. buy. and toss. buy. and toss.

[@Chernobog2]

The other reason the Tea was added to the remakes was to keep you from getting to Saffron early by having a friend give a drink to a Pokémon to hild and trade it to you

[@TheShinyFeraligatr]

Note that you can sort of do that in Gen 1 through Stadium shenanigans as well, and this was a known quantity before the remakes came out.

[@ВіталійЧумаченко-о4ъ]

Have a 100th like

[@Chernobog2]

@John Marston I'm talking about FRLG. If you could get into Saffron with a vending machine drink in those games, you could have a friend give one to a Pokémon and trade it to you, allowing you to get to Saffron before you even beat Misty. That's why they changed it so you have to give them tea you can only get in Celadon instead

[@thetreyceratops]

I assume that was the only reason actually

[@gergo6595]

@@Chernobog2 And because there is an another method to get in Saffron city the drink trading method why doesn't works?

[@Nmber1Fan]

On the TEA key item - while it does make it impossible to trap yourself by running out of money, the reason it was introduced was that you could give items to pokemon in the 3rd generation games. You could thus get the drink you would buy in the original games much earlier in the remakes through trading. The TEA item was introduced to prevent sequence breaking this way.

[@brandoncubell7362]

Surf is hidden behind a paywall. Thanks EA!

[@Vgamer311]

If a video game started deleting my saved data for OTHER games I would start a riot.

[@BloodThirstyAvengers]

I'm still perplexed why it does that intentionally.

[@StrabbyStrabby]

@@BloodThirstyAvengers I've been scouring the comments for someone asking this exact question! I was confused aswell, and I was even MORE confused that nothing on KZbin, or on wikepedia, or even review websites mentioned it. So I went to the saving grace that is reddit. The game, basically, wants you to be able to use as much space as possible! It doesn't want you to *not* be able to save the game and lose all your progress just because you didn't have enough disk space. So, on the FIRST save of your game, it simply deletes every other saved game on your NVRAM. Everything. It doesn't just 'start' to delete it, or have a chance to delete it, it just deletes it all. This is only with first editions of the game, though. The publishers actually let people exchange their copies for the newest ones if they, I don't know, had a problem with the rest of their game's save files getting deleted. On the new ones, you can save the game up to four times (I'm not sure if it's that number exactly, or if it's just the average time you start running out of space), which then the game will prompt you if you want to delete other save game datas. I don't know if I'm allowed to send links in youtube comments, but this is the title of the Reddit post I got this information from. It's just a copy-paste of an old archived games forum. This is the post, [[From a very old archived ClassicGaming.com FAQ: "Q: Hey! I played The Horde, saved a game, and now all of my other non-Horde saved games in NVRAM are gone! What happened? A: The first version of The Horde deleted all other non-horde saved games in NVRAM when you saved a game. Amazingly, this was not a bug.. the game was designed to do this to give players the maximum amount of ram for Horde saved games! Crystal Dynamics is aware that this is a problem for most people and will allow you to exchange your NVRAM devouring copy of the horde, should you happen to get one, for the latest one (with less of an appetite). The new version will only allow you to save four games, and will allow you to delete NVRAM files when it is full."]] And somebody in the comments says how to tell if your version of the game is patched. If it says "61030-C RCB" on the game disk, it's good to play.

[@joshroco297]

You missed the simplest method that actually got a few people by accident. On the route to Bills house there is an area that you can cut to reach to get an item (I'm certain its a TM). An alternate method is to make the trainer blocking the area move to battle you, walk around him and hey presto, no CUT pokemon required. If you then save your game, the trainer is back in their original position meaning the only way out is to use CUT. If you have no CUT pokemon to escape (bearing in mind it is too early in the game to FLY) and you haven't caught an Abra in the same route, then when you load your game up, you are trapped with no means of escape.

[@joshroco297]

bear in mind you can't even trade your way out of this one

[@teali7084]

I forgot.. Don't you need a pokemon center to trade pokemon? If so. You have fucked the game up 100% legitamately. You're quite damn smart. I remember that was an odd scenario, Which shouldn't have occured. Truth be told; I didn't fully realize that was a death trap Good job sir. That's very smart of you. -What about the glitch to hop over a single wall though...?-

[@donaldmaroschek3120]

Escape rope

[@MissusAnon]

Oh my god, I actually remember having this happen to me once as a kid. I completely forgot. I was so mad hahah

[@thetechconspiracy2]

Donald Maroschek Escape Ropes only work in dungeons, not in the overworld

[@Bluecho4]

Honestly, I think the inability to re-fight trainers was always a problem, if those trainer fights were also the only way to earn money. Aside from Meowth/Persian, that is. Hell, even if money wasn't an issue, Game Freak should have implemented something like that from the beginning, for people who wanted to re-try enjoyable fights. This is a game, after all. But it was a ground-breaking set of games, that were experimental (and built on stringent hardware limitations). So we can't blame Game Freak too much. Especially since all subsequent games experimented with ways around these earlier problems.

[@AmyraCarter]

Actually, re-battling was always an intended feature from Red/Green/Blue onward.

[@Wanderingwalker-ke6mg]

I liked the phone number system I believe came with gold/silver? Was an awesome and innovative mechanic which added more of a realistic feel along with re beatable trainers.

[@pkmnTrainerGold0]

The lack of refighting trainers became even more obnoxious in X and Y and Sun and Moon (and soon Sword and Shield) since you need to buy clothes if you want to customize your trainer and all the clothing options are quite pricey compared to actual items that help you play the game. You even need to pay every time you want to change your hair! I mean, sure, you don't *need* to customize your trainer, but adding a mechanic like this just highlights how broken and limited the money system is in these games. Paying to buy clothes or get haircuts isn't a problem in Animal Crossing because you always have a means to get more money, but in Pokemon you can blow all your money on fashion and be unable to buy any potions to help you beat the gym leaders.

[@molotera8789]

Let me re-fight the trainers in Lets Go i need money and grind my team ffs

[@Merahki3863]

@@pkmnTrainerGold0 sword and shield is by far the easiest to earn money even without gigantamax meowth you pick up so many items that are sellable.

[@WolfestoneManor]

As a kid my guess with the guards at Saffron was a workers' strike. The player brings drinks that the guards misinterpret as a olive branch from Saffron City officials and end the strike, or they're cool with Red coming and going as he pleases and there's no break in the strike. I was a strange child.

[@gamersinacontainer]

Good guess but I assumed that Team Rocket was forcing them to do it but giving them water makes them willing to make an exception? (This theory has more holes than swiss cheese.)

[@craigyeah1052]

@@gamersinacontainer Or... the signal for the guards to let someone through that Team Rocket gave them is delivering a drink!

[@gamersinacontainer]

@@craigyeah1052 I like that!

[@KootenaiKing]

Classic case of kid with an overactive imagination.

[@sandyr5407]

That’s pretty smart, actually.

[@PangolinMontanari]

9:15 - "We can't progress if we happen to be dirt poor" 2 real 4 me

[@mrpinguimninja]

Actually the reason why the drink was changed to tea on the remake was to avoid players getting to Saffron earlier by trading a pokémon holding a drink to their FR/LG games.

[@Crystal_2]

Here's an easier way of also getting stuck forever. Enter the League with a single Poison or Fighting-type Pokemon in your team that is not weak to Ice-type moves, that knows Rage as its only move, and that cannot possibly 3-hit KO Lorelei's Dewgong with it. Preferably, enter also without any item usable in battle. When you fight against Lorerei's Dewgong (her first Pokemon), she will keep selecting Rest forever (due to the AI), and you will be stuck using Rage forever as soon as you select it. Neither enemy Pokemon nor the Rage's lock keep track of PP. You also cannot leave Lorelei's room without winning or losing the battle, so your only option is to start a new game.

[@sagecarbonell.]

Just amazing, Crystal_. This is actually an astonishing way to finish off your Pokémon adventure!

[@Coteup]

Pikasprey exposed you

[@grisoul2509]

Exposssssssssssed as of today, and despite the crazy slim chances

[@siege4336]

Heh

[@kamrynfarfsing8903]

does rage not have a pp count of its own ? eventually you can't use rage anymore and will default to frustration.. which will hurt oneself

[@yaegrismcruskate1743]

So Red gave up on his Pokemon journey just because he didn't have $5? Wow.

[@ender64yeahthatguy]

5¥ actually

[@TheVermilliaFamily]

5¥ would be $0.05. I think you mean 500¥ ($5.00)

[@Wooperplus]

I wonder... where do TOSSED items go?

[@youinanalternateuniverse]

Prince of Turtles I always figured they just go on the ground.

[@lightning3602]

You in an alternate universe Why can't you pick them up again?

[@kittykat5483]

"I just put a child in harm's way for the sake of a KZbin video, and I'm okay with that" ~Pikasprey

[@redgerran]

"Tell me your thoughts down below." Why would you sell items back at a lower price when you can just toss them?

[@pokespicie1699]

He was getting rid of his money when he did that, not his items

[@uamdbro]

@@pokespicie1699 he was already at 0 money at 7:04.

[@sleazymeezy]

@@pokespicie1699 spend all your money on items. Toss items. No more money, no items to get money by selling. Follow your thoughts to conclusion my friend

[@rosesapling72]

@@sleazymeezy yeah but if he just tossed the items he bought, it would be faster and easier?? also the items in his bag can be TOSSED if they can be sold?? so theres no point!

[@FartingSpider12]

Not really important by this point but at 6:57 why wouldn't you just buy the items and then just toss them? It would save a little more time than buying them then selling them over and over again. End result is still the same though. Great video!

[@MrCheesyBaconBits]

Yeah I thought that was strange

[@ulysses5439]

_Red tossed all his items in a nervous breakdown, once calmed down he realized the magnitude of what he's done - thus depended on gambling in the game corner to prevent himself from soft-locking his life_ coming this winter Pokémon kids-be-careful-with-your-stuff-don't-let-emotions-cloud-your-judgement - the movie

[@human_bing]

U Turn lol

[@D.Dragon]

Roses are red The coins are yellow After he ruined his life He was surprisingly mellow

[@sdgdhpmbp]

Spoilers - he dies from a volcano eruption. ... Dark.

[@mitts5365]

U Turn 11/10

[@funnychic7]

U Turn I'd watch it.

[@CoffeePotato]

I've been watching softlock videos like this for a while, but it just occurred to me that this could be why so many of the rodents can learn Surf and Strength.

[@glitchedoom]

The real "How the heck did they let that happen" for Bubble Bobble Revolution was approving that box art.

[@arieltimeshrine8137]

"I put it there so people wouldn't yell at me, but this is the Internet, so they will anyway."

[@donniemorrow]

On Route 25, north of Cerulean City on your way to Bill's House, it is possible to battle the JR. Trainer (Male) in front of the enclosed section where there is a Cut tree and TM 19 Seismic Toss. If you're at the bottom of his sight range when you trigger his battle, this will walk him away from the entrance of the section, allowing you to enter and pick up the TM before you gain access to Cut. However, if you then save your game inside this square and turn it off, when you reload the game he will have returned to his original standing position, blocking the entrance of the square and making it impossible to leave without the use of teleport.

[@darkdragonsoul99]

I actually did this when I was a kid the first time I played the game I also did the saffron one wasting that kind of money was easy when you didn't know you needed it for anything.

[@beta511ee4]

Think of how alarmingly easy that is to trigger. Imagine a kid being forced by their parent to turn off their game, and they happened to go for that Seismic Toss TM without Cut. Thanks to that parent, the kid's game is ruined. Great going, Game Freak!

[@kirasaji]

(Stuck in Cinnabar Island, with only an Voltorb) (Floats away toward the sea) “WILSON!!!”

[@ZTenski]

The safari zone trap actually only works in red. In blue, you can fight a wild meowth, and if it uses payday, you get the coins on winning. Since in gen 1 it didn't matter which side used it, the winner gets the pot.

[@NullWes10]

If your only Pokemon is a ghost type coins don't scatter, thus no money attained

[@bigmclargehuge8219]

I feel like you should do an episode about the “This one was actually done on purpose.”

[@FinalLuigi]

6:52 "This is very simple to do: Just got into any shop in the game, buy a bunch of items, and immediately sell them back for less than what you paid." Or you could just buy the items and then toss them.

[@MediocritysMuse]

So basically the poor don't get anywhere in life in Pokemon. To real man.

[@visethreachsothy6952]

This is why communism is superior.

[@strydorman]

@@visethreachsothy6952 Not even close.

[@Wulfenburg]

@@visethreachsothy6952 lmao that just makes everyone poor.

[@ddp9381]

Mathias Von Wulf ok boomer

[@PANZERFAUST90]

too*

[@troy35]

Mom: you can go explore the world now, honey. Youre old enough, and prof oak has an important job for you to do! *7 gym badges later* Red: Umm... mom? Im stranded on an island just south of our town. Mom: oh, thats horrible. (YES, HES GONE FOREVER!)

[@Alex-yy5wo]

Ha!

[@mr.whimsic6902]

I think if you made a series on *making* various games impossible, it would blow up your channel for originality. (I haven't seen anything like this before)

[@sevret313]

Exactly, the player needs to go out of their way to soft lock their game to make this interesting. Not do something that the developer planned themselves or shouldn't have predicted.

[@CrimsonTakesFlight]

Tv Tropes has a page for this phenomenon called Unwinnable By Insanity.

[@JohnSmith-xf1zu]

Another word for what he is doing is "soft locking" the game. These soft locking has been covered on other youtube channels. I do like this anyway and hope he continues.

[@TeraunceFoaloke]

Also the failed prophecy message does not mean the game is unwinnable in Morrowind...It's just now Dark Souls hard to win. Notable things you have to do include killing Vivec for a plot item.

[@spacetrenton]

There is another person who's already done this their channel name is whoisthisgit and they've done at least one of these for every generation before I think 5.

[@bradenborman4396]

I accidentally did the last one when i was young! haaha. I fell for the, "if you release your pokemon and then follow these steps and then save it real quick, you'll clone the pokemon"...Nope. instead stranded myself when Blastoise was let go

[@krystallinekris]

Oh, for a second I thought you were going to talk about the 'move pokemon' glitch where you CAN clone pokemon by moving a pokemon (from your party, I think) to a box, and if you turn off the game at the right point during the 'SAVING... DO NOT TURN OFF THE POWER" screen, you'll have the pokemon in your party and in your box. Too early, and it's still in your party, not in the box. Too late and it's either in your box or it's gone forever.

[@DexTag]

​@@krystallinekrispretty sure in the method you couldn't lose a pokemon. I only did it in Gen 2 and there either nothing happened or you got the clone. Did it over a hundred of times and never lost a pkmn

[@krystallinekris]

@@DexTag I only said that because I was almost certain I've seen a friend lose a pokemon before, but it's old memory.

[@grendelkhan3082]

As a kid, I played the remakes first and was stuck for days, getting mad "Why won't he take the lemonade!" And the tea thing confused me. I wish they made both work.

[@greatduck5297]

I never played the originals so I was just really confused why this guard took tea and there wasn't a story event or something.

[@cherryb0ng]

as a kid whose brother played the remake of what I was playing, I did the exact opposite and complained that there was nobody at the corner of celadon giving tea for free

[@xdeathcon]

I actually had the issue of playing the original and not knowing about the drinks being a thing... Of course I was 5 or something.

[@---oq5kb]

They added the one in the remakes specifically to remove the one from the originals.

[@benjaminbrady2385]

1. Go to cinnabar 2. Wait for the volcano to erupt 3. Profit?

[@blaze4109]

That's impossible because the volcano is hardcoded to not erupt while Red is on the island. (TIME PARADOX)

[@oliverhees4076]

stay inside the center for three years, and wait for someone to get you out once the volcano's erupted

[@teelo12000]

The pokemon center moved, so I guess it got rebuilt?

[@SakuraPhoenix153]

Clicked so fast. Great content. Definitely an underrated KZbinr.

[@BandedMetagrossMeteorMash]

Alden Flores i agree

[@frisk7951]

Alden Flores agreed

[@beinyourguard]

TRUE, YO.

[@nine6269]

So gamefreak started the pay2win games.

[@gerboog]

NO! completing the pokedex is optional and not required for "winning" therefore, no pay 2 win.

[@mattfahringer148]

@@gerboog''ahem ahem'' WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOSH!!!

[@animeguy10000000]

@@gerboog Says you.

[@gerboog]

@@animeguy10000000 yes and i am god.

[@menacingspoon9079]

@@gerboog god of obnoxiousness?

[@saturnine.]

This series explains why the escape rope is a permanent key item in sword/shield, why the fishing rod is locked in your inventory from the beginning, and a whole lot of other changes that probably were made to prevent you from softlocking

[@purplecosmonaut]

The first and second situation presented aren't actually impossible, even without trading with another game. You see, you don't actually need to catch a Meowth to use Pay Day. You can just battle wild ones next to Celadon city and have them use Pay Day on you for you to actually start getting money, thus getting out of the money-less situation. Cool tricks though!

[@francovenica1531]

About the entry fee in the safari zone. I dont think they thought about the player "not having any form of getting money" but more something like "the guy has no money, he has to go and sell stuff that he probably needs or go to other side of the world to fight a random NPC so you know what? lets allow him getting through to get the HM's, but now safari balls, we dont like exploits around here"

[@Pez7373737]

I've got the solution for the drink for the guard to enter Saffron problem in Yellow version. You see, you can still enter the safari zone so we can take advantage of that, this means that you can catch any Pokemon that is catch-able in the safari zone, it just might take a while since you only have one pokeball (Or, Safari ball rather). Now for this trick to work you need a fishing rod, You can get an Old from from a fisherman in a house in Vermillion City. Thankfully the Old Rod is a key item, so you can't accidentally toss it like you did all your other items earlier. Now that you have your fishing rod, head over to the Safari Zone as mentioned earlier and fish with your old rod. If you're *lucky* you'll encounter the legendary Pokemon Magikarp. Now because it's so legendary it might be difficult to catch with your Safari ball but keep at and you'll eventually catch it. If you have more than six pokemon in your party it will be transported to your PC (or technically Bills PC, your PC holds items silly) So it's recommended you catch the Magikarp with less than 6 pokemon in your party, that way you won't miss a single moment with this majestic Pokemon. Now that you have Magikarp on your party you're almost done. All you have to do is go to the nearest Pokemon Center and talk to everyone who comes in, tell them you have a very rare Pokemon for sale, Magikarp might be a legendary Pokemon but this is an emergency situation and we're low on cash so we only have one solution... sell it for 500.

[@kikuchu.]

Pez7373737 I don't know...I feel like that would only work if you came up with a solid marketing scam, put them in gold plated pokéballs, and sold it to unsuspecting anti-villains.

[@AverageJoeTwoPoint0]

Pez7373737 you're not supposed to grab ANY fishing rods

[@septicbile2901]

missed a perfect opportunity to end that little ramble with the fresh prince theme song...........

[@Evilriku13]

the lore about the salesman near Mt Moon, he just wants to see his dad(?) again in the safari zone :O

[@jfb-]

AverageJoePoint0 1. That only matters for the cinnabar island trap, since if you're not trapped there then you can get the rods at any time. 2. This is a joke, you can't actually sell pokemon but theres an NPC who does sell a magikarp, this post is just explaining his backstory

[@Slash0mega]

i think the tea that you give to guards was made a key item instead of a real item to fix another issue. hold items are now a thing, so a friend could pass you a pokemon holding a drink, so you could sequence break.

[@whiz8569]

Hell, I think that was a problem back in the original games too (I think). I remember hearing something about using Pokemon Stadium to get fresh water and sequence breaking the game that way.

[@UltimateUmbrey]

Indeed. In Pokémon Stadium 2 there's a feature called the Color Case where you can store any item that isn't a key item in a box. You simply get fresh water with another copy of Red, Blue or Yellow and put it in the Color Case. Then you simply open the case with your new save file and transfer it back into the game. You can use this same method (albeit with the normal boxes) to store a pokémon that knows surf, after which you can surf past the tree in Vermilion city and skip getting the cut HM.

[@lifetake3103]

don't you need a badge to use surf

[@iss2075]

I agree. That's the real reason they changed it to Tea, because in FRLG it's easy to get Fresh Water when you're at Cerulean by trading. And yes, you need Koga's badge to use Surf. Although you can actually beat Koga before Surge if you want to and Surf around to his gym later on. You can go to almost the end of the game without battling Lt. Surge! In RBY you can even get the 7th badge before getting the 3rd.

[@memine118]

I Ss same for hgss and gsc

[@tabbender1232]

I have a Japanese Green version and the previous owner had somehow managed to throw Fly away, and had no pokemon knowing it. I tried to get the move, but he apparently already had gotten it, so he probably exploited a glitch or something to erase it. I really thought using Fly on his game was definitely impossible, but then i screwed around with the Japanese-only Select glitches and his Hypno somehow learned Fly. Lol

[@lovaniagengar7941]

Fly is a completely optional HM, as it is out of the way and walking and surfing can take you around just fine. That's how he did it.

[@kengyouseng8426]

@Jenny Shull Yes, using its nose

[@AgsmaJustAgsma]

@@Somerandomperson-hl1kt Hypno inflates its nose like a balloon and its trainer has to grab him on its back. On the subject of Pokémon Green, I remeber playing a translated version of it on a reproduction cartridge, back in the day, where you could skip Pewter City entirely. Despite existing glitches that makes you skip Brock's Gym, I recall heading straight to Mt. Moon without doing any glitches or beating the gym. I don't own the cartridge, anymore, so I can't confirm if that's even possible.

[@tabbender1232]

@Smashie The guy actually had his save in Lavender Town when i got the game lmao

[@dudono1744]

@@tabbender1232 this is something to do with green version, just to make it funny

[@aceclover758]

Around 10:00 with your reasoning for the tea I want to add that they, imo, mainly changed it not due to you not having enough money but since gen 2, Pokemon can hold items. GF definitely saw people able to “skip” an otherwise, mandatory part of the game by trading a Pokemon holding one of the drink items to a new game or friend. Imagine form Cearulean, you can reach Saffron and by extension, Lavender and Celadon before even reaching Vermillion?

[@jaredwhite7285]

I have a confession. I intentionally go out of my way to softlock games without hacks or anything, just so I can s3nd a valid bug report and feel noticed

[@TDRR_Gamez]

I hate softlocking games because i keep doing it on accident and then i wonder "what the heck did i do wrong here"

[@craftergamers4997]

Jared White have you ever heard of the 8F glitch

[@pickles3128]

You know there's whole careers dedicated to doing exactly that? Think it's called QA; you don't need much coding experience just cohesive writing ability to type up bug reports and lots and lots of patience._ Most people would go nuts doing dumb stuff repetitively like in Zelda pulling out a bomb every five feet and making sure you don't clip through the walls or floors and get stuck. Happened to me once in OoT while riding Epona onto thin ledges or corners Poe hunting in the 3DS version. No room to dismount and Epona can't move backwards.

[@Bro-cx2jc]

Chrono Trigger: Start a new game. Go to the fair. Use the menu glitch to remove Marle from the middle of Leene Square. She becomes inaccessible and you cannot complete the game. Right at the very start. LESS THAN FIVE MINUTES IN.

[@lovaniagengar7941]

Lawful evil

[@shepardpower]

Pay to win.

[@MrStarguy]

MrWafflesNBacon you win the internet today

[@shepardpower]

Alex Russell yay

[@GD-ep5fl]

pay to play. can't win if you don't have the game

[@shepardpower]

Gianmarco Da Molin or you can steal it from the internet... Don't listen to my reply kids!

[@renzoaramirez]

MrWafflesNBacon no

[@michaelfreeman3189]

I think the drink was changed in the remake was because the item could be given to a Pokemon and traded, allowing you to reach the city long before they intended originally.

[@Pikasprey]

That's another interesting idea. I had never thought of doing something like that when I was younger,

[@applebeemcfirdays9977]

Michael Freeman You except you couldn't give your pokemon items

[@Pikasprey]

He's talking about the remakes.

[@dragonwithafez]

I believe in the original games you could transfer items through Stadium or something, I definitely remember doing "Get to Saffron City early" glitches at some point.

[@michaelfreeman3189]

You can still get drinks you need long before intended in the original as well. It might be considered an external device but Pokemon Stadium allowed you to store Pokemon and Items on the N64 cart which in turn allowed you to freely trade any item or pokemon from one game to another. Pokemon with HMs were even allowed to be traded this way. I did this to completely skip the S.S. Anne. With the drinks you get this way you can get full access to Saffron City just after you get your 2nd badge.

[@wesleyoldham4222]

9:55 That's not why they changed it to Tea. They made it a key item so you couldn't have a Pokemon hold the item and trade it to another game. They wanted to stop people like me, who use Pokemon Stadium 2 to bypass Rock Tunnel in Gen 1. Step 1: Put Fresh Water, Lemonade, or Soda Pop in the Color Case Step 2: Put the drink on a game that you barely started Step 3: Give it to the guard south of Cerulean City.

[@orlandofurioso7329]

They really want us to go through freaking rock tunnel huh

[@MisterGoose]

Man, I can’t believe annotations were removed 7 years ago. KZbin truly hasn’t been the same since and it’s been downhill from then on.

[@MsSwitch]

Can this be a Speedrun category? Like Impossible%?

[@Whole_Cogan]

SinkableGiant18 challenge accepted

[@BandedMetagrossMeteorMash]

SinkableGiant18 that sounds really fun

[@coolbugfacts3953]

SinkableGiant18 Useless%

[@adynmichael]

nothing important%

[@sevret313]

Given the steps required, it's probably too tedious without any way to make the run interesting.

[@ElizaGalaxia]

Isn't there a glitch at the beginning of the game where if you evolve your starter before getting Oak's parcel, you soft lock the game into thinking you have a Dex when you don't?

[@AlbertFingernoodle959]

Pikasprey stated that he didn’t want to use glitches

[@tammytheranger7645]

Plus, it only happens in the Japanese versions.

[@LancerloverLL]

Why are you bothering to resell the items you bought for half the price? Just toss them like you did with the ones you already had. This is a great concept by the way and I'd love to see this for lots of other games. Unfortunately I'm too lazy to do that myself, so I guess my only chance is to subscribe to your channel and hope for the best.

[@caritohoyos1752]

Lancer So that the player ends up broke after gaining less money than they spend until they don’t have enough money to afford anything.

[@GhalidiusTrident]

And the child is killed in a volcanic eruption

[@erick999dx6]

THE END

[@michaelmeade4767]

Hey, just wanted to say thanks for putting these vids together, it's really a lot of fun to take a look at some of these completely nonsensical situations that most people would never even consider in any normal play-through of the game. Great job describing the situations, and keep up the good work!

[@chilidoghamsalad9952]

1. Snap cartridge in half. Done

[@bluemycool]

"ALMOST Impossible" Seems legit.

[@pruittboy3]

Laughed way harder than I should have

[@jc8t]

I would snap the gameboy

[@castor9907]

The Mario Quadruo *THATS ALLOTA DAMAGE!*

[@Dysll]

The Mario Quadruo *_now that’s a lotta damage_*

[@jo-jq5uw]

this is a very underrated youtuber

[@Craglicious]

hello, i love this type of content, i discovered your channel and realized it was right up my alley, you are becoming my favorite youtuber, thanks for making great videos

[@ineverlikedtorfanyways1358]

Pokémon Red/Blue/Yellow: now it’s impossible to get yourself stuck Pikasprey: *hold my beer*

[@ribunny123]

I'd watch a whole series about 'how the hell did they let this happen.' As well as a compilation of softlocks.

[@Virtualmess32]

Ah yes, bankruptcy is the best

[@SendFoodz]

fighting a wild meowth who uses payday, and you pick up the coins after defeating them

[@Pikasprey]

That's something I didn't think of. Although, Meowth can only be found in the wild in Blue version, so Red and Yellow are still doomed.

[@NonstopRam]

I am glad there is at least a video on this safari lockout topic. I kinda wondered this myself months ago when I was playing the games on the 3DS. The information on this topic is pretty scattered and this is the first video to almost comprehensively covered it. Now, even with the encountering of Meowth, it will take a while since the wild Meowth has to actually use the move. Another thing, you can trade pokemon with the games being on the 3DS but if all of them are on one, I do not think the games can be traded in between.

[@Pikasprey]

Just thought of something. If you can't buy pokeballs and make your only Pokemon a ghost type, then the Meowth's pay day won't even be able to hit you, which means, you shouldn't be able to get any money from it.

[@devent10n]

Pikasprey Yellow if it doesn't hit, do coins not scatter? I'm curious, but too lazy to check right now

[@Dunsparsley]

you could also make the pokemon super high level and only have attacking moves so that it will one shot the meowth regardless

[@cielsensei6015]

one thing I accidentally did when I was kid playing sapphire is use abra's (from dewford) teleport and go back to petalburg's Pokemon center then save. when I went to mr. briney's hut he was not there so I couldn't go back to dewford where i still haven't finished looking for steven

[@human_bing]

ciel sensei lol

[@human_bing]

ciel sensei then what did you do?

[@rxquestgordo]

this happened to me too!!

[@lazyhippie6139]

Is there a way out of that?

[@abitofsupport601]

ciel sensei i remember doing this T_T.....restarted over

[@day5209]

Welp, found the perfect channel to waste my day on. Subscribed.

[@deadchannel7797]

"I just put a child in harm's way for the sake of a KZbin video and I am OK with that." -Pikasprey Yellow

[@ClampEEGEE]

The change with the Tea in FRLG likely wasn't done to prevent a player from getting stuck, but rather to prevent sequence breaking that's possible by trading a drink over as a held item. You can actually do this in Gen I by utilizing Stadium 2, and storing one in the color case,

[@curseofbinding]

6:57 This is what it's like when your parents buy 12 one month memberships instead of a 12 month membership

[@PikaLink91]

Thank you for yet another very informative video Pika :-) 1. I had no idea there was hidden play coins on the floor at the Game Corner 2. I had no idea that if you release your last Pokémon in Gen 3, it will return "being worried about you" (as I never release any of my Pokémon)

[@whiz8569]

You can't release your last pokemon on any games (I believe); that only happens when you try to release a pokemon that already knows an HM move.

[@WarriorMC]

whiz 85 is correct

[@shieldlesscap6124]

Warrior I thought that only happened if they had an HM that you needed in order to get onto the main roads. Like, if you're on an island and try to release the only Pokemon you had with surf

[@joeymormango8614]

I like the trap in gen 4 on the Magikarp trade Island. Make sure the pokemon you have can't escape (with the execption of the fineon that gets traded) and also make sure to not have any rods or any rare candies (so you can't evolve the magikarp). If you have done all of that, you are permanently stuck.

[@human_bing]

Harold Saxon I have another way:Bring a wobbofeut (I'm sure I spelt that wrong) without any other Pokémon and poke Ball and go find a ditto.

[@human_bing]

the wobbofeut must not have any attack moves.

[@joeymormango8614]

Wouldn't you eventually run out of PP though?

[@human_bing]

Harold Saxon then what will happen (that never happened to me)

[@joeymormango8614]

there is this move called struggle, that is fairly weak, that does damage to yourself but also damages the other person. I know because I had pretty much the same situation with a Wynaut and a Raltz, and the Raltz had trace so I couldn't escape, and no one could attack. But if you wait long enough the battle would eventually end.

[@stardust2360]

"I just put a child in harm's way for a youtube video and I am ok with that"

[@nick-playercharacter8583]

Thus, Pikasprey's journey into becoming the Jigsaw Killer of Pokémon began.

[@MexiPika123]

I know in the dpp pokemon games you can break the game by going to rt 226 and do the trade for the German magikarp by trading him the Finneon knowing surf and in the party with a pokemon that can't learn surf AND never to pick up any of the rods (And saving after the trade so you can't soft reset yourself out)

[@nekomilocat]

you know i actually think i did that to myself back when i was a kid. i had to turn it off without saving and do the trade again.

[@MrFifa2112]

not really considering you most likely have an other pokemon to switch rain the magikarp to a gyarados

[@thesunisdark13]

You can only get Finneon through fishing, and you're only trapped if you don't have fishing rods, so you'd have to trade with another game for the Finneon.

[@nekomilocat]

actually, i think it would be possible to get trapped there by having six pokemon? so long as finneon was the one knowing surf, and none of your other pokemon could learn fly, surf, teleport, or dig, you trade for the magikarp and then no matter what you fish, you can't catch it to surf away? but then i suppose you could train the magikarp to gyarados that way...hmm.

[@oznerich]

Ari Silver you dont have any rod or rare candies that's why you will get stuck with your magikarp

[@EDskate97]

"...But this is the internet, so they will anyway..." - Haha I love you

[@BasZz2119]

You forgot to mention the; save your game after getting an item behind a player in the top of Cerulean city whilst heading towards BILL. That one actually got one of my buddies back in 1999~

[@BasZz2119]

No trading pokemon to get you out of that.

[@WeedIsHealthyForYou]

I don't get it. How does that make you stuck?

[@wheremybike]

WeedIsHealthyForYou There's an item above Cerulean City which can be accessed by either cutting down a tree, or getting a trainer to move closer to you for a battle. If you use the latter option, don't have a Pokemon with Cut, Teleport, Fly, or Dig, and have no items, you can save and reset afterwards to reset the trainer's position, leaving you with no way to get out. The trainer won't move, and you can't cut the tree down. Plus since you need a Pokemon Center to trade, and you can't access that, you can't trade your way out either.

[@greatduck5297]

But the trainer would stay moved after saving?

[@kingblackwaffle]

@@greatduck5297 not if u save restart

[@brettrogers4208]

You could in theory battle a wild Meowth. If it uses payday, you are no longer stuck

[@HybridAngelZero]

These are always fascinating. As a note for the change from Fresh Water to the Tea key item in FRLG may also be because Pokémon can hold items (which they couldn't in Gen 1) and be traded, you could have sequence broken by having a friend trade you a Pokémon holding the item. You actually CAN sequence break like this with Pokémon Stadium, as it lets you transfer items between RBY games.

[@WindowshadeCure]

I think the reason why they were trying to keep people out of Saffron City probably had something to do with Team Rocket taking over the Silph building

[@casuallavaring]

Actually, Wild meowth can still use Pay Day, and by encountering and defeating them enough you can obtain money that way. As such, it's impossible to get stuck in that particular way, *unless wild meowth somehow don't have pay day at the level you encounter them or something*

[@Nightcaat]

Make your Pokémon a ghost type.

[@тнєєє27]

LavaringX It would not work unless your meowth use payday... godamn f**k

[@ddranimestyle]

Opposing Pokemon using pay day still makes you pick up scattered coins at the end of the battle...

[@GrayLanternPPA]

I was going to post about this as well. In theory, this should work for Blue version. Red didn't have wild Meowth in it, so couldn't use this exploit for that one.

[@caffeine1605]

Gray Lantern What about encountering a wild Pokémon that knows metronome, then that Pokémon gets payday through metronome?

[@nekomilocat]

here's an idea. do the cinnabar island one, release all pokemon except a level 100 mewtwo(i checked, mewtwo can't learn surf or fly) give the game to a friend, say they can keep it, watch them scream in damnation forever that is, if they don't have stadium or another game and a link cable

[@KyanbuXM]

Ari Silver My God that's evil. XD

[@nekomilocat]

UmbreonBro but then they forfeit the mewtwo

[@timothygilbert5241]

For the Cinnabar Island one, you also have to make sure the one Pokemon you keep is not a Ponyta. One of the old men in the lab offers to trade you a Seel for your Ponyta. Because Seel can learn Surf, this is a workaround to the predicament.

[@TirzaBoi]

Actually, if you beat a wild meowth and it has pay day, you get the coins. Howerer meowth is only found wild in pokemon blue.

[@LordEmpyreal]

Isn't their also a very simple soft lock on the way to Bill's house when you first reach Cerulean City? If you make a trainer walk out of his initial position by locking eyes with him, you can slip into a space he was blocking off, where it is possible to find a TM. Then if you save and restart, he appears back where he was originally, blocking the way out. The only way to escape would be CUT, which you wouldnt have the HM OR Badge for, as well as no badge for Fly, making Teleport the only way to escape. If you don't have Abra, you are stuck forever. This is a true soft lock because there is no way to trade or access the box to retrieve pokemon from Stadium. Also in Cinnabar Mansion there is a trainer you can battle that will block off the only exit if fought at a certain angle. If you dont have Dig, Teleport, or an Escape Rope you are also out of luck.

[@greatduck5297]

i thought trainers stay where they are at when you saved when you reload?

[@samrushin2476]

I thought I was such a baller sneaking in to grab that TM19(?) and teaching it to my Drowzee before I could use cut

[@Bro-cx2jc]

@@greatduck5297 They only do this if you save in the spot they originally stood in. This way, you won't load a save standing right inside one of them. This wasn't considered for trees, though, so you can save and reload a game inside a tree.

[@SnipeMD]

12:19 The fossil Pokemon were specifically made to keep you from getting stuck somehow on Cinnabar Island. There is no way that you can't eventually figure out a way to revive the fossil, and its a key item that can't be thrown away and is not optional. Both know Surf and can be used to escape the island. Clever forward thinking if you ask me.

[@Professor_Gamble]

So was this actually a glimpse of Rusty's life?

[@human_bing]

Damian P lol

[@blastermaster2285]

Damian P wrong

[@an_annoying_cat]

Damian P yes

[@sonicmastersword8080]

No. There would have been more collateral damage if it were Rusty. If it were Rusty, this ending would be a blessing compared to what he would normally have caused.

[@dorygeronimo4133]

Ye

[@BroadswordMedia]

I got introduced to your Channel via the completing the entire game with just one ditto video. And now after seeing this video and see what Great Lengths you went to make the game completely incompletable, I am subscribing!

[@mugg1991]

where can I find this list of "how the heck did they let this happen?" I'm interested to learn more cases

[@thorgidogofthunder]

if you’re still curious, i have a couple i could share. like… the Japanese release of Blue Rescue Team would wipe the save data of any GBA game in the DS’s second slot, other than Red Rescue Team. it was so bad that Ninendo actually had to recall copies of Blue Rescue Team so they could fix them. or if you received the 2004 holiday demo disc, which contained a demo for Viewtiful Joe 2. for some reason, hitting the 20-minute mark would cause it to lock up… and format your memory cards in slots A _and_ B behind the scenes.

[@JoseFlores-xh5cj]

I feel like this video should've been released 18 years ago

[@tommybomby4122]

in 1999???

[@Goldlack65]

@@tommybomby4122 well yea

[@tommybomby4122]

wow, i'm bad at counting lol

[@amandac326]

Yeah he should have made it before KZbin existed

[@fukkthisnewupdate8882]

@@amandac326 you seem to have missed the joke

[@possstain8156]

Nice video - one thing you should've added (unless I am mistaken) in the first and second scenarios, is to not own a Ditto, as you'd be able to transform vs a Meowth and copy Payday to use in battle

[@dougfancy101290]

You forgot about getting trapped on Route 25

[@jernejfric4810]

Do you mean the trainer that allows you to go get the item, that's behind the tree, you would otherwise cut? Does he return to his original position if you get the item, save and reset the game?

[@dougfancy101290]

Jernej Fric Yes. That's exactly what happens.

[@wolfsream]

I got stuck like that knowing profissional pokemon gameplay xD how noob am i?

[@Lelouchxzero1]

As I have learned from your newer videos, metronome payday.

[@DogDogGodFog]

If you're too broke for Pokeballs, then you can't catch a metronome Pokemon.

[@SeraphOC]

@@DogDogGodFog Its still possible to get a pokemon with metronome and forget this soft lock exists until it occurs

[@CrisperPoet]

"I just put a child in harms way for a youtube video, and I am okay with that." Is the best quote I've heard in a long time.

[@elfmonster1476]

Stuck before Mt. Moon: Step 1. Buy the Magikarp for sale at Mt. Moon Pokemon Center. Step 2. Toss all items you can get at that point. Step 3: Get rid of all your money. Step 4: Release all other Pokemon than that Magikarp. Now all you got is a Magikarp that only knows Splash. You can't catch a new Pokemon. You can't win a battle via Struggle, due to Splash having 40 PP, guarranteeing that you'll be knocked out before you can use Splash (unless you're fighting Kakunas and Metapods, which end up with so high defense you'll knock yourself out with Recoil before you knock them out). And trying to move forward until you can fix the situation requires you to battle non-optional trainers.

[@wdinan]

irrelevant comment, but GO TO THE ELF'S WORLD WELCOME! EVERYONE CALL ME ELF MONSTER

[@groszak1]

Use splash PP on Kakunas and Metapods, RUN, then battle with pokemon with regular defense.

[@GraveGraffiti25]

@@wdinan MONATERS!!! (and my favorite) VOLCANO BAKEMEAT!!!

[@cherryb0ng]

Struggle

[@Nickolai117]

What you could do is waste all your PP against a Kakuna or Metapod, run, then fight against a weaker pokemon with struggle. It would take ages, but wouldn't that be a workaround?

[@IcedFire89]

People probably did get locked out of the Safari Zone which is probably why Yellow fixed it. It's possible, without dropping items, to have spent all your money on consumable items and used them all, or at least enough of them to not afford the Safari Zone. And this is something that can be done on accident if you don't know you need to get in there.

[@honeyblaze6177]

I wonder if you can do this in real life

[@80WooR]

Honeyblaze yes, you can get stuck in life if you waste your money and only have 1 partner. It's called marriage, don't try.

[@butteredsalmonella]

You can, beat up every single person and ask them for money, sell your spare items in the most cheap way. But spare money to get the legendary item, bleach. Use the item and game over... saldy you cannot restart the game. There is only one load save for every game of "Real Life"

[@80WooR]

AleksSDF it's worse. It's always worse. I'm just waiting for death to save me from this miserable excuse for an existence.

[@Red_wine]

No, Death is always an escape.

[@TDRR_Gamez]

@@Red_wine I really hope you are kidding

[@stardust2360]

A much faster way to get rid of all your money is to not sell them at all, just trash them in your inventory and you only have to buy them once

[@timothymclean]

Hey, while you're stranded on Cinnabar Island, could you maybe tell them about the volcanic eruption thing? They probably won't believe a kid dumb enough to strand themselves on a little island, but the "I told you so" would be epic.