How to Escape Lorelei's Game Ending Softlock

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Pikasprey Yellow

Pikasprey Yellow

7 жыл бұрын

In the Gen 1 Pokemon games, it's possible to set up a cruel softlock. But could there perhaps be a way to get out of it...?
Crystal's video: • Pokemon R/B/Y - How to...
Gen 1 Accuracy and 1/256 Glitch explanation: bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wi...
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Thanks to my friend Trevor for helping go over all of the math in this video with me :3 (Even though he doesn't even like Pokemon...)
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Пікірлер: 5 400
@Pikasprey
@Pikasprey 7 жыл бұрын
This was supposed to come out weeks ago, and was meant to hold you all over until the next big video. So much for that. (◕ ‿ ◕✿ )
@LezzaD
@LezzaD 7 жыл бұрын
Pikasprey Yellow Couldn't you use a TAS program to get the right frame for the moves to miss 20 times in a row? Therefore successfully pulling this off and being able to record it.
@Reoko77
@Reoko77 7 жыл бұрын
Pikasprey Yellow omfg, your humor is fucking on spot! i love you!
@Generalizedfeelings
@Generalizedfeelings 7 жыл бұрын
Pikasprey Yellow Oh and it's not only moves, but items too. The master ball has a 100% catch rate. But it's programmed the same way a 100% accuracy move is. So your master ball can fail 1/256 times.
@mjc0961
@mjc0961 7 жыл бұрын
That depends on if there is a "right frame" for it to miss.
@MariahGeri
@MariahGeri 7 жыл бұрын
Pikasprey Yel5bmnknmnbmnmmbnnbnmbnbmbnmb m. pop99th 98 99th 99999low
@SephirothClone
@SephirothClone 5 жыл бұрын
1 in 68 quindecellion chance. SO YOU'RE SAYING THERE'S A CHANCE.
@fqidz
@fqidz 5 жыл бұрын
a very small chance, smaller than a Planck in meters length. Planck is the smallest thing in the universe by the way
@applesauce4748
@applesauce4748 5 жыл бұрын
Why is this me when I ask a girl out
@dELTA13579111315
@dELTA13579111315 5 жыл бұрын
@@applesauce4748 why did you have to preemptively steal my joke :(
@karlcorrz
@karlcorrz 5 жыл бұрын
whats a quindecillion
@Max-mx5yc
@Max-mx5yc 5 жыл бұрын
multiply the average time per rage used with 68 quindecillion and you get how much time you'd need on average to get 20 misses
@CalCrimson
@CalCrimson 4 жыл бұрын
Imagine getting Rage to miss 19 times in a row and then it hits the 20th time
@thomasbumgardner2128
@thomasbumgardner2128 4 жыл бұрын
sounds like a major oof.
@remig0ld_641
@remig0ld_641 4 жыл бұрын
Mc *F*
@limagine3265
@limagine3265 4 жыл бұрын
I would literally start crying
@tunace3503
@tunace3503 4 жыл бұрын
FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK
@archerking2784
@archerking2784 4 жыл бұрын
F
@oppositeofitself8444
@oppositeofitself8444 3 жыл бұрын
Pokemon Red and Blue came out on September 28, 1998, and data suggests that a total of 31.38 million copies have been sold. If every copy of the game ever sold were put in this loop, and attempted to get out every five seconds since the games came out 22.5 years ago, odds are none of them would've missed more than six times by now.
@ale-xsantos1078
@ale-xsantos1078 3 жыл бұрын
So if the Red from all the gen 1 timelines were all sinultaneously put in the Rage-Sleep void with Lorelei, it would take about 90 years for maybe one of them to accidentaly break them free? By this point our old man would have already spent a lifetime with, and likely married, the Elite 4 member just to out of nowhere wake up in a Pokémon Center with only him and her knowing what the hell happened That's wild
@Codricmon
@Codricmon 2 жыл бұрын
What's really shocking about this comment is that Pokémon Red and Blue came out nearly 23 years ago. *cries in old*
@markattaka1540
@markattaka1540 2 жыл бұрын
@@ale-xsantos1078 Thats not how math works. You can't just multiply 22.5 by 4.
@ale-xsantos1078
@ale-xsantos1078 2 жыл бұрын
This is why I said "about 90" Its a estimative, not a precise result My main point was that eventually one Red would have broken free but it would have taken a lifetime with Lorelei there and afterwards he'd be a 10 years old boy again, talk about akward
@markattaka1540
@markattaka1540 2 жыл бұрын
@@ale-xsantos1078 90 isn't even close to the right answer. That's like saying the Sun is about 5 miles away.
@EvilApple567
@EvilApple567 5 жыл бұрын
Just to add to his statement about Rage only having 20 PP, if you used a PP Max to bring Rage's PP up to the max of 32, you would have roughly the same odds of encountering 20 shiny Pokemon in a row.
@Potatomaster1005
@Potatomaster1005 2 жыл бұрын
sounds pretty do able tbh
@funkymachine
@funkymachine Жыл бұрын
@@Potatomaster1005 I could probably do it by the end of the night people are just pussies fr
@Arbron
@Arbron Ай бұрын
Why stop there? Why not go in with Rage at 32 PP on *a full team of six*? Forget 32 times in a row. Try 192.
@OhSayWhatIsTruth
@OhSayWhatIsTruth Ай бұрын
​@@ArbronStill not a true softlock, funny enough.
@espada8077
@espada8077 6 жыл бұрын
Dewgong! I've come to bargain!
@joshharman7084
@joshharman7084 6 жыл бұрын
lol, I did not know that primape was the sorcerer supreme.
@kvatore
@kvatore 5 жыл бұрын
Up you go.
@qwertyuiopoiuytrewp
@qwertyuiopoiuytrewp 5 жыл бұрын
this comment is fucking gold.
@aaronrodriguez2588
@aaronrodriguez2588 5 жыл бұрын
oh my fucking god. I laughed so hard from this.
@kamoroso94
@kamoroso94 5 жыл бұрын
This should be pinned lmfao 🤣🤣
@Neville133
@Neville133 7 жыл бұрын
"..The point is that I proved someone wrong on the Internet.." I'm subscribing just because this is the most honest statement I've ever seen on KZbin.
@Fantas1ze_
@Fantas1ze_ 6 жыл бұрын
this is my favourite comment In history
@yetiornot5726
@yetiornot5726 6 жыл бұрын
Ditto
@sydneynmalachimason248
@sydneynmalachimason248 6 жыл бұрын
I must prove him false I must beat the softlock 50 seconds later yes I beat the game
@SPITZtheGOD
@SPITZtheGOD 6 жыл бұрын
same for me, lol
@bleadder
@bleadder 6 жыл бұрын
same here, most perfect way to say it
@sillykyle17
@sillykyle17 2 жыл бұрын
Fun fact: you're more likely to win the Powerball jackpot 5 times in a row than miss 20 Rages in a row.
@vaddix9980
@vaddix9980 9 ай бұрын
Absolute nonsense.
@Pixiuchu
@Pixiuchu 4 ай бұрын
@@vaddix9980 ~1 in 10^42 Powerball 5 times in a row ~1 in 10^49 Miss rage 20 times in a row Do your math, hun
@HjonkYT
@HjonkYT 2 ай бұрын
hun is wild😭 the math is crazy tho
@likepolice5769
@likepolice5769 5 жыл бұрын
I've looked into 68 quindecellion futures How many do we escape from? 1
@Bro-cx2jc
@Bro-cx2jc 5 жыл бұрын
"But why did you count them all" "Um"
@completelyoriginalname2701
@completelyoriginalname2701 5 жыл бұрын
But there is one way we can escape them all. The sweet release of death.
@Bro-cx2jc
@Bro-cx2jc 5 жыл бұрын
@@completelyoriginalname2701 NOOO!!!
@morgankasper5227
@morgankasper5227 5 жыл бұрын
wait we can grind exp with fish!
@Ollurim
@Ollurim 5 жыл бұрын
@@morgankasper5227 old rod is an optional item
@friizing
@friizing 5 жыл бұрын
The second you said “If the move hits” I knew it was going to be the 256 glitch
@billw.5397
@billw.5397 5 жыл бұрын
Krystal Army yeah I wasn’t sure but then he said “if it hits” and it was like fireworks went off in my head
@visoth7791
@visoth7791 5 жыл бұрын
The 256 glitch is actually noticeable. Speedrunners occasionally run into the glitch (I mean, they spend thousands of hours practicing) and it can often kill a run, by missing a single hit on a 100% accuracy move. So imagine being a speedrunner. Let's say you're making INSANE pace, and you are all but guaranteed to surpass the WR by minutes... You run into the 256 glitch... No worries! It just happened once. I am still alive and far ahead. You run into it again... What are the odds? Extremely rare. Probably nobody has had it occurred twice in a row...No matter, you can still beat the world record... 18 times later... Newspaper: Speedrunner found dead in apartment after an apparent "rage quit".
@shanemccausland958
@shanemccausland958 5 жыл бұрын
I dont think it was a glitch. 100% accuracy moves should have an extremely small chance to miss, to represent miracles in an active battle. I think it was intentional regardless if it was changed in later gens.
@SPZ-gv2on
@SPZ-gv2on 5 жыл бұрын
@@shanemccausland958 It was confirmed as unintentional
@shanemccausland958
@shanemccausland958 5 жыл бұрын
@@SPZ-gv2on It would fit with the game if it was intentional and I think they should add it to future games. Think about it. 100% accuracy means there is no hope or chance for your pokemon to dodge it. In a battle I would imagine even the most heat seeking and accurate moves would have some miracle of a chance to avoid. Feats of great will and effort on your pokemon or the opponents. 1/256 "glitch" its perfect for this.
@gengarzilla1685
@gengarzilla1685 6 жыл бұрын
*Someone's voice: Don't run away!* Obviously that voice is inside Red's head as his sanity slowly crumbles. It's all he has now.
@TheMentisGroup
@TheMentisGroup 4 жыл бұрын
Eventually, Red stopped thinking.
@sevathe
@sevathe 4 жыл бұрын
@@TheMentisGroup holy moly is that a mf jojo refrence?
@darrellwillis4871
@darrellwillis4871 4 жыл бұрын
Despite all my rage, I'm still just primeape on a stage.
@truejake3354
@truejake3354 4 жыл бұрын
underrated
@endigolikesarson
@endigolikesarson 3 жыл бұрын
Underrated
@eagletgriff
@eagletgriff 2 жыл бұрын
UNderrated
@Divine__.
@Divine__. 2 жыл бұрын
UNDerrated
@vectorthehop3945
@vectorthehop3945 2 жыл бұрын
UNDErrated
@baphnie
@baphnie 5 жыл бұрын
The hardest part of becoming a programmer is looking back on childhood games like this and learning the abysmal AI behind what had been your greatest achievements.
@Mewtwo_150
@Mewtwo_150 11 ай бұрын
Seems like GameFreak never learned a thing from Gen 1 lmao
@ianfinrir8724
@ianfinrir8724 11 ай бұрын
Most games from this era are bug/glitch ridden nightmares. Pokemon just happens to be more obvious about it.
@absoultethings4213
@absoultethings4213 8 ай бұрын
@@ianfinrir8724paper mario 64 comes to mind, being somewhat stable on the surface only to get drop kicked by glitch hunters who found an ungodly number of sequence breaks
@joaoassumpcao3347
@joaoassumpcao3347 8 ай бұрын
@@Mewtwo_150 You can (and should) criticize GameFreak, but their programming is LEAGUES better now. I mean, it should be, considering they aren't a company near bankruptcy like they were while making Gen 1, but still. I'd argue Gen 1 is infamous for being a coding mess BECAUSE all the other games have good programming for the most part.
@MightyJake
@MightyJake 7 жыл бұрын
I live for insane calculations like these. That fact that there's even the most minuscule of chances to escape this fascinates me.
@xzs432
@xzs432 7 жыл бұрын
Me too!
@OnEiNsAnEmOtHeRfUcKa
@OnEiNsAnEmOtHeRfUcKa 6 жыл бұрын
I was gonna thumb this up, but it's at the max value of 255, so I need it to stay there so that Rage will miss. :^)
@neilburgin8893
@neilburgin8893 6 жыл бұрын
The calculation is based on the assumption of truly random numbers, though. Exploiting flaws in the RNG (which, admittedly, is quite hard to do when running the game on an unmodified physical game boy) would allow you to get out of this with nowhere near a quindecillion attempts.
@beta511ee4
@beta511ee4 5 жыл бұрын
@@neilburgin8893 How would you do that?
@-espeon
@-espeon 5 жыл бұрын
“When am I ever going to use this math outside of school?” they said.
@kylerothery2606
@kylerothery2606 3 жыл бұрын
That One Pikachu Girl video games teaching maths they said it could never be done p.s I really like your pfp
@-espeon
@-espeon 3 жыл бұрын
Kyle Rothery Haha yeah, and thanks! I’ve had it forever, it’s custom made!💓
@kylerothery2606
@kylerothery2606 3 жыл бұрын
That One Pikachu Girl that’s awesome I love it so much it’s so cute I’d love to know who made it for you
@tulsatrash
@tulsatrash 2 жыл бұрын
I'm imagining Lorelei and Red trying to make conversation while this endless battle is going on.
@thorgidogofthunder
@thorgidogofthunder Жыл бұрын
"so... who's the toughest challenger you've faced so far?" "actually, this kid Blue just came by and swept my team with a Venusaur-“ "WHAT"
@ohhellwhereami2574
@ohhellwhereami2574 3 ай бұрын
​@@thorgidogofthunderRed :but i picked the frog one
@TeeTaan
@TeeTaan 5 жыл бұрын
having a pretty much impossibly small chance is definitely worse than it being actually impossible. it's like a shimmer of dream and hope being crushed by the terrible reality of probability.
@ImaginaryHuman072889
@ImaginaryHuman072889 7 жыл бұрын
guy A: "i'm so lucky! i just encountered 12 shiny pokemon in a row!" guy B: "yea... my primeape is still stuck raging against lorelei"
@Lovuschka
@Lovuschka 7 жыл бұрын
guy A: "Hey, this Eiffel Tower just popped up from nothing!" guy B: "still stuck raging..." www.exitmundi.nl/exitmundi.htm
@doubledio3061
@doubledio3061 7 жыл бұрын
ImaginaryHuman072889 OBJECTION , SHINIES DONT EXIST YET
@antoniovlassa5886
@antoniovlassa5886 7 жыл бұрын
ImaginaryHuman072889 those mons will be magikrap and rattatta
@zackhorker210
@zackhorker210 7 жыл бұрын
conchudo12345 You will break down, the immeasurable pain that will be unforgettable. Haunts you forever and ever.....
@xPimpChickenGamingx
@xPimpChickenGamingx 7 жыл бұрын
Zack Horker you start to struggle get down to one hp then your opponent hyper potions your Pokémon you break the game
@TWDividence
@TWDividence 6 жыл бұрын
I'd take the 12 shinies rather than miss 20 rage
@iraloS
@iraloS 5 жыл бұрын
Not me lol. Gimme those 20 misses.
@RandomAccount-pr5uq
@RandomAccount-pr5uq 5 жыл бұрын
@Pixel *SHINY*
@Kiki-gs6ml
@Kiki-gs6ml 5 жыл бұрын
I want to get that shiny girafarig that I found once
@mynameismmandimheretosay7979
@mynameismmandimheretosay7979 4 жыл бұрын
I’d like some shiny Groudons. Preferably in a pickle jar.
@zedrikcayne
@zedrikcayne 4 жыл бұрын
CringeFire9 same. Same. 😅
@jamesdinius7769
@jamesdinius7769 5 жыл бұрын
Tries to escape the trap Rage lands on the last PP point Congratulations, you've learned Rage!
@Potatomaster1005
@Potatomaster1005 2 жыл бұрын
id just break the system
@dollartwentychickentendies
@dollartwentychickentendies Жыл бұрын
*learns Rage; this move has 100% accuracy with no Gen1 miss chance*
@Arbron
@Arbron 2 жыл бұрын
I remember lying in bed one night thinking about escaping the Lorelei loop, and realizing you could go back to the Big Bang and attempt it (in real time) all the way up to the present day and probably still not get it. It genuinely gave me an anxiety attack.
@wolfetteplays8894
@wolfetteplays8894 Жыл бұрын
Holy shit
@__8120
@__8120 Жыл бұрын
If you went all the way back to the beginning of the universe and tried it every 40 seconds, you likely would have only gotten about 7 misses in a row
@Arbron
@Arbron Жыл бұрын
@@__8120 *heart rate intensifies* Can you imagine this being Purgatory? God: "You are not deserving of Hell, but to enter Heaven, you must earn it." (Gameboy + cartridge with appropriate save file + infinite battery appears) Everyone: "THIS is Purgatory? Then what could Hell possibly be?"
@MollyPowerslide
@MollyPowerslide 6 ай бұрын
It is genuinely scary, but it also feels very funny that in this scenario one of the first things to exist in the universe was a copy of RBY with this specific save file ready to go.
@Arbron
@Arbron Ай бұрын
​@@MollyPowerslide Maybe that's what the whole "original sin" thing was really about.
@timaeus22222
@timaeus22222 6 жыл бұрын
"The point is, I proved someone wrong on the internet." LOL! That cracked me up!
@dapokatuber1548
@dapokatuber1548 5 жыл бұрын
Isn't that all that matters?
@timaeus22222
@timaeus22222 5 жыл бұрын
For Pikasprey, I couldn't imagine any less. :-)
@sabertooth160
@sabertooth160 5 жыл бұрын
Yeah that had me laughing too
@paxgallery6646
@paxgallery6646 5 жыл бұрын
Why did 690 people like your comment, and why am I one of them?
@ame-chan579
@ame-chan579 5 жыл бұрын
That phrase win me as a subscriber xD
@operationmeh
@operationmeh 6 жыл бұрын
I have never seen such determination and logic put into figuring out how to LOSE a battle. Kudos to you sir.
@MuchWhittering
@MuchWhittering 5 жыл бұрын
Losing the battle wouldn't be so bad. But here, even losing is impossible...
@sabertooth160
@sabertooth160 5 жыл бұрын
Losing the battle was only half the battle... Wait?
@thebestworst8002
@thebestworst8002 5 жыл бұрын
it is really impossible to win as it will just go on until someone quits and computers will never quit
@GippyHappy
@GippyHappy 2 жыл бұрын
I want to see a 24 hour stream of an AI attempting to miss rage 20 times in a row.
@owoberon4947
@owoberon4947 2 жыл бұрын
i bet it couldn't do it even in 24 million years
@KaoruMzk
@KaoruMzk 2 жыл бұрын
RNG manipulation is a thing, the computer would probably just figure out the right input buffers required to force all those misses.
@MrDemonsushiGuy
@MrDemonsushiGuy 2 жыл бұрын
Underrated comment
@undefined6512
@undefined6512 2 жыл бұрын
With Miss the Rage playing in the background throughout.
@GippyHappy
@GippyHappy 2 жыл бұрын
@@undefined6512 Or Despite all my rage I'm still just a mankey in a cage
@daledocker7131
@daledocker7131 5 жыл бұрын
I can confirm this I have been stuck battling the dewgong since 1996 :/
@ciboria1
@ciboria1 3 жыл бұрын
It's been 25 years. How far gave you gotten?
@prudenciomangaoangiii403
@prudenciomangaoangiii403 3 жыл бұрын
@@ciboria1 lorelei womb
@athan13590
@athan13590 2 жыл бұрын
@@prudenciomangaoangiii403 shut up
@Jackpkmn
@Jackpkmn 7 жыл бұрын
pointless old video game topics are my favorite videos though
@Jackpkmn
@Jackpkmn 7 жыл бұрын
I loved psu. I miss it dearly.
@Koppu1doragon
@Koppu1doragon 7 жыл бұрын
It's actually playable right now.
@Jackpkmn
@Jackpkmn 7 жыл бұрын
i stopped keeping up with it a while ago because they still didn't have anything really public or playable after a number of years. I guess i should go check it out.
@Koppu1doragon
@Koppu1doragon 7 жыл бұрын
Last time I checked they have a lot of things working, things I know that are not working mostly boil down to rooms and everything that goes with them, I think there's some kind of storage thing but I don't know how to use it.
@pedrojose9135
@pedrojose9135 7 жыл бұрын
At least I am not alone, now to mario world dying saw by sliding
@simoncarlile5190
@simoncarlile5190 7 жыл бұрын
To anyone who still doesn't understand how unlikely it is to miss Rage 20 times in a row: The odds of winning the Powerball lottery are about 1 in 292 million. That's about 0.0000003%. The odds of winning the Powerball lottery 5 times in a row is about 0.0000000000000000000000000000000000000000469%. The odds of winning the Powerball lottery 5 times in a row are still about a million times greater than missing Rage 20 times in a row.
@sylenzos6869
@sylenzos6869 7 жыл бұрын
and a lot more beneficial
@virtal7348
@virtal7348 7 жыл бұрын
I wonder what the actual percentage is.
@simoncarlile5190
@simoncarlile5190 7 жыл бұрын
Actually, that "Rage misses every time" quirk only activates if the following conditions are met: 1. Rage has already been activated (and you can't change moves or use items, etc) 2. An evasion buff/debuff is in effect (like Double Team) 3. Rage misses due to the modified evasion check Otherwise, if Rage misses, it has no effect on the accuracy of subsequent Rage moves. Seeing as how Dewgong will never use an evasion move in this battle, this quirk has no effect on the scenario.
@renatoramos8834
@renatoramos8834 7 жыл бұрын
An orgy of 0s
@virtal7348
@virtal7348 7 жыл бұрын
Sounds accurate.
@redvanderbilt289
@redvanderbilt289 5 жыл бұрын
Trapped in a room with Lorelei? Thats seems not bad.
@cat-nx7sv
@cat-nx7sv 5 жыл бұрын
I GET It-
@aetherheart1954
@aetherheart1954 5 жыл бұрын
Red Vanderbilt Dont do this to the internet
@winstonignatiusrenraw4588
@winstonignatiusrenraw4588 5 жыл бұрын
Hello, Nurse!
@imaginaryboy2000
@imaginaryboy2000 4 жыл бұрын
I mean if you're character waits there for 8 years...
@huntermitchell6335
@huntermitchell6335 4 жыл бұрын
@@imaginaryboy2000 Christ
@TheTauntalus
@TheTauntalus 3 жыл бұрын
The absolute best twist of the knife is something you almost mentioned when going over scientific notation - that the difference in E-notation is 2 orders of magnitude. You're not just more likely to get 12 shinies in a row than escape. You are **100 times more likely to.** EDIT: Thank God for comment chains. The actual factor is 16, not 100, but still - crazy odds.
@pogchimp793
@pogchimp793 2 жыл бұрын
actually 600 times, because the number at the beginning for the rage is 6, while the shiny one is 1
@lolreach1627
@lolreach1627 2 жыл бұрын
Not really. It would approximately be 100/6 = 16.67 times more likely (I went with 6 here since the original comment and you both used it rather than 6.8). You shouldn't mutiply there. Instead you should divide (probability of shiny-case over probability of rage-case) since 6 is the most significant figure for the probability of the rage-case.
@pogchimp793
@pogchimp793 2 жыл бұрын
@@lolreach1627 ah ok I don't do math
@TheTauntalus
@TheTauntalus 2 жыл бұрын
@@lolreach1627 yeah that tracks. Apologies then - I skimmed the actual numbers. Still though - a factor of 16 is nothing to scoff at.
@darkwiz428
@darkwiz428 7 жыл бұрын
In Yellow Version back when I was a kid my haunter was frozen from Lorelei I beat Bruno but only had two pokemon left had no healing items and when I went to Agitha I got her down to her last pokemon (gengar) with my non-frozen pokemon. Gengar took that one out leaving me with my frozen haunter. Gengar kept spamming hypnosis but because my haunter was frozen it would never work (in gen 1 frozen pokemon would not thaw out naturally) so I was stuck in an endless loop.
@mikewebsters4119
@mikewebsters4119 7 жыл бұрын
Riperoo younger you
@darkwiz428
@darkwiz428 7 жыл бұрын
riperoo?
@xMasterSparku
@xMasterSparku 7 жыл бұрын
darkwiz428 he's saying RIP
@TakoyakiDonuts
@TakoyakiDonuts 7 жыл бұрын
Speaking of haunters, I actually caught a shiny Gastly in Pokemon Platinum a few weeks ago. It was the first shiny I encountered in one of the Gen 4 games (not including the Gyarados from G/S/C/HG/SS). I still haven't beat Pokemon Red yet though....
@darkwiz428
@darkwiz428 7 жыл бұрын
Nobody counts the Lake of Rage Red Gyarados. But my first one was a rattata in Crystal
@XmodxgodX
@XmodxgodX 7 жыл бұрын
I guess you could say that method would be quite *rage* inducing.
@user-fy1nq3nf1q
@user-fy1nq3nf1q 7 жыл бұрын
XmodxgodX please stop.
@Swordkiller55623
@Swordkiller55623 7 жыл бұрын
Talk about needing anger management...
@stoopidapples1596
@stoopidapples1596 7 жыл бұрын
i think i'll give you guys a rest on the puns.
@nostalgicumbry3279
@nostalgicumbry3279 7 жыл бұрын
*gets on drums* Baton pass~
@bulbies3010
@bulbies3010 7 жыл бұрын
NO
@mesprittheemotionpokemon620
@mesprittheemotionpokemon620 5 жыл бұрын
"I'm a cool guy. I've got a girlfriend!" Probably my favorite pre-battle trainer speech of all time.
@Bro-cx2jc
@Bro-cx2jc 5 жыл бұрын
And for some reason he and his "girl friend" are standing several meters apart acting like they don't know the other one is there XD and she says "I wish my boyfriend was as tough as you!" when he's standing right the f*ck there lmao
@ZenoDovahkiin
@ZenoDovahkiin 5 жыл бұрын
@@Bro-cx2jc F to our fallen brother.
@plant7371
@plant7371 5 жыл бұрын
shorts are comfortable and easy to wear. your argument is invalid
@BohepansTheThird
@BohepansTheThird 5 жыл бұрын
"Hi! I like shorts! They're comfy and easy to wear!" *The laws of the universe mean nothing.* Bow to the Shorts Youngster! Ahem...but yes, that's my favorite intro personally, has been since the first time I played this silly and fun game. Coincidentally/incidentally, my favorite (or at least one of, anyway, if not the) defeated quote happens to come from a Youngster as well, as I recall. (Or was it a Bug Catcher? Damn...) "Done like dinner!" It's the stupidest joke. Why do I laugh at it? I just can't help it.
@HellHathNoFuryAtAll8
@HellHathNoFuryAtAll8 4 жыл бұрын
@@plant7371 You're just Shellos, if I say so myself.
@winksquad6585
@winksquad6585 5 жыл бұрын
Hit or miss? I guess they Miss 0.3891% of the time.
@DJTileTurnip
@DJTileTurnip 5 жыл бұрын
Huh
@ZenoDovahkiin
@ZenoDovahkiin 5 жыл бұрын
You are a horrible person.
@dpsgeo542
@dpsgeo542 5 жыл бұрын
You got a boyfriend? I bet he doesn't make a foolproof softlock! Edit: *_immediate regret_*
@pixelpudding3914
@pixelpudding3914 4 жыл бұрын
You got a-
@sledgehammer_floatzel
@sledgehammer_floatzel 4 жыл бұрын
HAH
@1lifeleftmusic680
@1lifeleftmusic680 5 жыл бұрын
I have a soft lock. Remove the game cartridge and discard it. You will be unable to progress or go backward.
@randyrandalman8234
@randyrandalman8234 5 жыл бұрын
Retrieve the game cartridge from the trash. Problem solved
@AX-xi2pw
@AX-xi2pw 5 жыл бұрын
Softlock proposal #2 Take a sledge hammer and hit the cartridge for 20 minutes, then throw it in the trash.
@farmerwithshotgun5166
@farmerwithshotgun5166 5 жыл бұрын
@@AX-xi2pw Buy a new game.
@AX-xi2pw
@AX-xi2pw 5 жыл бұрын
@@farmerwithshotgun5166 aww man you put me in a bad situation here. So if buying a new game is a viable way out of a soft lock, the only way to truly soft lock the game is by making yourself incapable of every finishing any pokemon game. And since you can interface with the game in various different ways, (breathing or whatever) and since even with the lowest mental ability (RNG input) can finish the game after a certain amount of time. The only way to truly soft lock is for the player to die. But don't try this at home kids for the love of god
@MrGeorgeFlorcus
@MrGeorgeFlorcus 5 жыл бұрын
I think that's called a hard lock
@PANZERFAUST90
@PANZERFAUST90 6 жыл бұрын
I love how this guy just sounds like he hates his life in all these videos by torturing himself with pointless traps and grinding XD
@dondreyoung7143
@dondreyoung7143 5 жыл бұрын
I watched my friend run into a shiny Pidgey in gen 2, kill it, and then he ran into another shiny pidgey directly afterwards. Their were no cheats used. It was the luckiest thing I’ve ever seen in my life. The odds of that happening are sooooooo low.
@vaddix9980
@vaddix9980 9 ай бұрын
It's 1 in 4096 so 2 in 8192 not low at all.
@Adirbal
@Adirbal 8 ай бұрын
​​​​@@vaddix9980That's not how probabilty works... A 1 in X chance event happening twice in a row has a 1 in X^2 chance, not 2 in X. This means that the chance for two shinies in a row is about 1/67108868, or about a 0.0000015% chance.
@vaddix9980
@vaddix9980 8 ай бұрын
@@Adirbal Woosh
@Adirbal
@Adirbal 8 ай бұрын
@@vaddix9980 You simply stated a wrong probability, there is literally no joke there.
@vaddix9980
@vaddix9980 8 ай бұрын
@@Adirbal The joke is you thought O was serious. Again. Wooosh.
@cubicbanban
@cubicbanban 2 жыл бұрын
I love how you are trapped by a combination of three glitches, but you *could* escape by the existence of a fourth glitch Gen 1 games are so broken…
@jacquespaught
@jacquespaught Жыл бұрын
None of the three things keeping the player trapped are glitches.
@IneptRat
@IneptRat 11 ай бұрын
@@jacquespaughtwell the awful trainer AI is
@jacquespaught
@jacquespaught 11 ай бұрын
@@IneptRat No, it isn't. The AI is working exactly as intended. Programming oversights are not the same as glitches.
@nintendomhour
@nintendomhour 5 ай бұрын
@@jacquespaught what? glitches...are programming oversights lmao
@jacquespaught
@jacquespaught 5 ай бұрын
@@nintendomhour Yes but not all oversights are glitches
@aurum3747
@aurum3747 5 жыл бұрын
I wanna see someone create a room filled with computers all soft resetting at max speed, programmed to do this stunt That would be a world record "The most useless luck achievement on history"
@naphackDT
@naphackDT 5 жыл бұрын
Depending on how it's set up, it might either be impossible or exceedingly easy to make it happen. The pokemon games aren't truly random, rather the numbers are generated based on the game clock. So if the setup will always load and perform the same actions, it will NEVER get through the fight. On the other hand, given enough time, you could probably calculate a frame perfect manip that will generate 20 misses in a row. It would be funny to watch the computer bonk into walls, turn around and walk in silly patterns before talking to Lorelei at the exactly right moment and missing 20 straight rages, but it could possibly happen.
@felixroux
@felixroux 5 жыл бұрын
TAS
@kliop00023
@kliop00023 4 жыл бұрын
@ooOmegAaa u can run then parallelly with few computers and enough RAM. To sum up, u just need to cheat to miss lol
@TimeSpaceMage
@TimeSpaceMage 4 жыл бұрын
Computers (or operators of course) could use luck manipulation by finding the exact frames to input for the 20 misses. By yourself though you may as well just savestate each time.
@charmedrools1
@charmedrools1 4 жыл бұрын
@ooOmegAaa not computers, but programs. you forget a compyuter can have more than one process running at a time. if each of those computers run 100 emulators then the result would happen on average within 1 year
@sk4434
@sk4434 5 жыл бұрын
What you do when you have to return a rented copy of the game
@defunctaccount181
@defunctaccount181 5 жыл бұрын
that is just plain evil
@JordanNGA
@JordanNGA 5 жыл бұрын
Srihari krishna gonna do it
@MezzoForte4
@MezzoForte4 5 жыл бұрын
@Oh yeah yeah Imagine doing this in the 90s, without internet.
@rockk9753
@rockk9753 4 жыл бұрын
Just keep it instead
@rockk9753
@rockk9753 4 жыл бұрын
Open the cartridge and change the circuit board thing from another game, that's how we did it when we wanted to keep rented n64 games
@piotrkruczynski3311
@piotrkruczynski3311 5 жыл бұрын
New drinking game: Take a shot every time Pikasprey says "pp" or any number
@Bro-cx2jc
@Bro-cx2jc 5 жыл бұрын
Better drinking game: Take 1 shot every time Rage fails to miss 20 times in a row. If someone dies of alcohol poisoning, another person must take up the challenge. This would deplete the entire population of the Earth before missing Rage 20 times in a row would reach its chance of success. Hell, the sun would become a red giant and kill us all on its own before that would theoretically happen.
@Twisted_Code
@Twisted_Code 5 жыл бұрын
"but little did you know, I had nothing better to do today than find the most useless piece of Pokémon trivia ever" that line made my day. Thanks for finding useless things to make jokes about XD
@tabbender1232
@tabbender1232 6 жыл бұрын
I absolutely love how broken Gen 1 is
@glenngriffon8032
@glenngriffon8032 5 жыл бұрын
well yeah I mean its engine is basically held together with scotch tape and hope.
@JoeTheHuman
@JoeTheHuman 5 жыл бұрын
Eric Lee I don’t think they expected people to break it like that. They were like, “okay, here’s the path, and the rules. Now go!” Not knowing people would be like, “Alright I’ll break every single thing.”
@sleepngdemon
@sleepngdemon 5 жыл бұрын
It's not that broke *looks at focus rage and sweats*
@thorgidogofthunder
@thorgidogofthunder Жыл бұрын
@@JoeTheHuman compared to x&y, which had an entire city you couldn't save in because it would ruin your save file. or ruby&sapphire, where calendar-based events would just stop after a certain amount of time. but yeah, no, let's keep pretending red&blue are the buggiest pokémon games.
@lithobreak3812
@lithobreak3812 8 ай бұрын
​@thorgidogofthunder had no idea about the X and Y thing, that sounds pretty damn bad, thank god for online patches i suppose, but the ruby and saphire thing is not a bug, rather a hardware limitation, and on an aspect of the game that a whole lot of people including myself never touched
@seraaron
@seraaron 6 жыл бұрын
Assuming that it takes 30 seconds to reload, start the battle, use rage, play out the animations, and check whether you hit or miss (n.b. it doesn't, but I'm being generous) the expected time it would take to reach that many trials before one of them gave you the desired result would be ~1.3E42 years (and this is just the average!). To put that into perspective, the universe is only ~1.4E10 years old. So while it is theoretically possible to escape this scenario (and this is also assuming perfect RNG, which the game boy most certainly doesn't have), it is for all practical purposes still impossible. Realistically the hardware would fry, or the player would die of old age before escaping.
@flower-qd2gm
@flower-qd2gm 6 жыл бұрын
Seraaron Legend
@superhuegetto6512
@superhuegetto6512 6 жыл бұрын
But what if they get it first go
@AX-xi2pw
@AX-xi2pw 5 жыл бұрын
lmfao
@AX-xi2pw
@AX-xi2pw 5 жыл бұрын
Yes, and even if you dedicate a whole family heritage to completing this task / maintaining the electronics so that they stay operative. Sadly, if the expansion of the universe keeps accelerating at this rate, space and time will rip apart within another 2.2E10 years. That would mean that the total age of the universe from start to finish, is still less than half the time it would take to get Primeape out of the elite 4.
@jeppel1972
@jeppel1972 5 жыл бұрын
"That would mean that the total age of the universe from start to finish, is still less than half the time it would take to get Primeape out of the elite 4." That's the understatement of the year, it's roughly one 3E31th of the time it would take.
@awesomelink2347
@awesomelink2347 2 жыл бұрын
Ooh, I have an idea for a better softlock like this, that works against some other trainers as well. Just save in Lorelei's chamber with a frozen Pokémon as the only Pokémon in your party, and make sure to toss out any Full Restores, Full Heals, or Ice Heals before you do. Lorelei's Dewgong will indefinitely spam Rest per usual, and in Gen 1 you'll never unthaw without getting hit by a Fire-type move besides Fire Spin (which it doesn't have any), the opponent using Haze (which it also doesn't have), or using one of the aforementioned items. This also works for instance against Lance's Dragonite (though in that case since it isn't his first Pokémon, you need to bring another Pokémon and have it faint after using the move that takes out the Pokémon right before his Dragonite via recoil damage (burn and poison wouldn't work, since in Gen 1 if a burned or poison Pokémon faints a Pokémon it won't take damage from the status condition)) or even against Pokémon that don't know any damaging moves at all, such as Blue's Abra in the battle with him in Cerulean, or Sabrina's Abra in Yellow.
@Pyxis10
@Pyxis10 8 ай бұрын
Sure but you actually can't escape those. So there is no point trying. This could take till all the stars burn out but theoretically there is a glimmer of hope.
@wallisbudge4022
@wallisbudge4022 5 ай бұрын
Ah yes, getting help from Gen 1's most evil mechanic to inflict further despair, I like your plan!
@Bro-cx2jc
@Bro-cx2jc 5 жыл бұрын
All this talk of softlocks reminds me of Chrono Trigger's beginning softlock where you remove Marle from the accessible areas of the game, thus freezing the story and preventing any progress. FIVE MINUTES INTO A NEW GAME. Man, I love retro games.
@jaredwhite7285
@jaredwhite7285 7 жыл бұрын
I feel like with these tricks, and a bit of Rom hacking the first gen games could be great puzzle games. You start with like 4 items and a pokemon and have to "un-softlock" yourself.
@dundee6402
@dundee6402 7 жыл бұрын
Jared White Well theres already a bunch of puzzles in-game, but i see what u did there
@dylan7919
@dylan7919 6 жыл бұрын
It's not even a pokemon game anymore just an escape-room challenge lol
@mayevie
@mayevie 2 жыл бұрын
i know this is an old comment but "pokemon firered vr missions" is similar to your premise :)
@Tahngarthor
@Tahngarthor 5 жыл бұрын
"The important thing is, I PROVED SOMEONE WRONG ON THE INTERNET!"
@NightKev
@NightKev 5 жыл бұрын
It might still be impossible depending on how the game's RNG works. If the RNG can't be manipulated into ever producing 20 misses in a row, then it's still impossible.
@GODDAMNLETMEJOIN
@GODDAMNLETMEJOIN 3 жыл бұрын
Yah. It seems unlikely the game's RNG has a recurrence time long enough to contain 20 256s in a row.
@aedd3307
@aedd3307 3 жыл бұрын
nah, it's possible, the rng of the game factors many things, pressing random buttons on the gameboy probably the change the outcome of some things since an interrupt routine is caused because of it, possibly changing the "randomness".
@KaoruMzk
@KaoruMzk 2 жыл бұрын
You can manipulate accuracy, with the correct inputs, you can make moves like Horn Dill hit 100% of the time so I assume doing the opposite is also possible.
@awesomelink2347
@awesomelink2347 2 жыл бұрын
Well, technically, since you can wait as long as you need for because of the "regained health", "fast asleep" and "woke up" textboxes, you could theoretically get infinite RNG rolls each time and thus eventually get one where it misses.
@Danikah23
@Danikah23 5 жыл бұрын
Before another goddamn guy says "old rod": 1:42
@swimone26
@swimone26 7 жыл бұрын
If my math holds up, assuming 5 second turns and ignoring the time between a failed attempt and starting a new one, the average person would need in excess of 10^31 years to escape this softlock. Now, the problem with that is that this is about 1000 times longer than the time required for every star in every galaxy in the universe to fall into their central supermassive black holes. Indeed, the only stars left in the universe at that point would be stray brown dwarves. The variance here is insane as well, so even the smallest stroke of "bad" luck could have even the black holes begin to decay while you await your escape. Protons themselves will be falling apart, and yet that Dewgong will remain staring, taunting your soul through the eons with the promise of eventual escape. I think I'd rather just get stuck on Cinnabar Island thanks
@Mernom
@Mernom 6 жыл бұрын
Actualy, nothing much is happening at the cetner of the galaxy atm. All the stars in the region are in mostly stable orbits, and exept of the occesional 'snack', the central black hole is not up to anything. This might change when we collide with Andromeda though.
@Mernom
@Mernom 6 жыл бұрын
I'm not actualy sure that this amount of time is enough for supermassive black holes to evaporate though... that amount if time is truely stupidly long.
@justanotheraltaccount7821
@justanotheraltaccount7821 6 жыл бұрын
Marik Zilberman Actually, when Andromeda inevitably collides with our milky way, the chances of any celestial object (including earth) essential to our lives colliding with something in Andromeda is... _astronomically_ low. (I'm so sorry for that terrible pun)
@bobveltman
@bobveltman 6 жыл бұрын
lol!
@urfork1
@urfork1 6 жыл бұрын
Omar Hegazy that’s not the point. The point is, that statistically you will need that much time.
@RaccoonRevolution
@RaccoonRevolution 7 жыл бұрын
And then we get into to argument of whether or not functional impossibility is equivalent to literal impossibility.
@Gabriel64468
@Gabriel64468 6 жыл бұрын
With safestates and or RNG manipulation it becomes trivial to TAS though. And I think it should be functionally impossible even with TAS to call it trully impossible
@drewbryk
@drewbryk 6 жыл бұрын
If the sun will go out before you can finish a strat i think it counts as locked
@Akivafyi
@Akivafyi 6 жыл бұрын
This comment wins the internet
@Dubickimus
@Dubickimus 6 жыл бұрын
Literally, it's not, but functionally, it is.
@sheriffaboubakar9720
@sheriffaboubakar9720 5 жыл бұрын
Dubickimus but first we need to talk about *drumroll* *drumroll* *drumroll* *P* *A* *R* *A* *L* *L* *E* *L* *U* *N* *I* *V* *E* *R* *S* *E* *S* *!!!*
@SebastianTheSaiyan
@SebastianTheSaiyan 8 ай бұрын
A fifth glitch actually makes this escape much more likely. According to the list of gen 1 glitches, if rage does miss in battle, its accuracy goes from 255/256 to 1/256 for the rest of the battle, meaning the chance of being able to lose is actually (1/256)((255/256)^19) which is much more likely then the original (1/256)^20
@chinchilla_fandoms9500
@chinchilla_fandoms9500 Жыл бұрын
This man looked in the face of God, bit the fruit of knowledge, and moonwalked backward into hell
@omelette4604
@omelette4604 5 жыл бұрын
pikasprey noun 1) a person who derives sexual gratification from their own pain or humiliation. "the roles of pikasprey and mistress" 2) (in general use) a person who enjoys an activity that appears to be painful or tedious. "what kind of pikasprey would take part in such an experiment?"
@mushroomhead3619
@mushroomhead3619 5 жыл бұрын
3) A spray for pikachus
@ZenoDovahkiin
@ZenoDovahkiin 5 жыл бұрын
I'm like number 255, so I'm sorry to say that in my case, your joke kinda missed the mark.
@awesomespurr3606
@awesomespurr3606 5 жыл бұрын
lol
@femmemachete
@femmemachete 5 жыл бұрын
Kinda sadistic?
@ugn154
@ugn154 5 жыл бұрын
@@mushroomhead3619 So, in conclusion, a Pikachu that likes to hurt itself because it simply likes too feel a potion burn his skin at it heals
@Dionicio3
@Dionicio3 7 жыл бұрын
"some person" shows Crystal_ That's not just "some person"
@PikaPerfect
@PikaPerfect 7 жыл бұрын
exactly
@SeGa32xXx1
@SeGa32xXx1 7 жыл бұрын
Dionicio3 King_Of_Skiddos Maybe not "some person" from YOUR perspective, but to me and the VAST majority of people, it's just some absolutely worthless nobody who could literally die and an extreme few people would give a damn at all.
@user-rg4wl4ex3h
@user-rg4wl4ex3h 7 жыл бұрын
Everyone is technically just "some person".
@jeff4118
@jeff4118 7 жыл бұрын
More people know who he is than this guy.
@Schwarzorn
@Schwarzorn 7 жыл бұрын
Shouldn't it be either "a person" or "some people"?
@coolkaneecw67
@coolkaneecw67 5 жыл бұрын
The pettiness of this is why I’m subscribed
@Savariable
@Savariable 3 жыл бұрын
A softlock from a design oversight... saved by another design oversight.
@Karukami1
@Karukami1 6 жыл бұрын
The PeePee will not go down.
@zackfairthepuppy
@zackfairthepuppy 6 жыл бұрын
Karukami rolling man
@LostOnceLefthanded
@LostOnceLefthanded 6 жыл бұрын
THANK YOU!!!!
@roberettecoperette7836
@roberettecoperette7836 6 жыл бұрын
I scrolled down and read this just as he said that.
@jennytalia6724
@jennytalia6724 6 жыл бұрын
Now THAT would be a terrifying scenario. Oh wait, that's called Viagra.
@CelluloidRacer2
@CelluloidRacer2 6 жыл бұрын
peppy points (lol nobody's gonna get the joke)
@2009kirby
@2009kirby 5 жыл бұрын
This happened to me once by accident when I was little. I went to challenge the Elite Four with a Poliwrath that knew Rage and it freaked me out when the game was stuck. 😂 (Thankfully I saved before entering, though!)
@Palkia8-Bit
@Palkia8-Bit 2 жыл бұрын
Bruh.
@antyrrama
@antyrrama 5 жыл бұрын
"USELESS ANSWERS TO USELESS QUESTIONS!" this got you new subscriber hahaha
@PegbordFegs
@PegbordFegs 6 жыл бұрын
there has to be one kid on this earth who got their first pokemon game, and missed tackle the first 10 times they used it
@Asako_Gaming
@Asako_Gaming 6 жыл бұрын
There was some speed runner who got 2 Gen 1 Misses [1/256 chance each] with Thrash into 3 Hit Confuse [1/2 chance] and hurt itself in confusion [1/2 chance]. Unlucky or what. Must have been some odds on that happenning at the same time.
@Gryxll
@Gryxll 6 жыл бұрын
Into the trash it would go.
@Eddyhartz
@Eddyhartz 6 жыл бұрын
I was that older kid who challenged them to battle with a level 100 Gengar and said "Stop hitting yourself" over and over again as they struggled to death.
@Asako_Gaming
@Asako_Gaming 6 жыл бұрын
That's why most teams ran a Dugtrio endgame. Dig was just too broken against ghosts with his speed.
@jennytalia6724
@jennytalia6724 6 жыл бұрын
I think you mean earthquake
@enderboy2459
@enderboy2459 5 жыл бұрын
20 years later: Finally rage missed 20 times! It took me forever! *Gameboy crashes*
@vielvladimirvaldez6917
@vielvladimirvaldez6917 3 жыл бұрын
even though this hasnt happened i can feel the anger from another universe.
@botterminator
@botterminator 3 жыл бұрын
Not likely, the internal battery would had to be replaced way before then, so you would've had to start a new game anyway. Unless you have soldering knowledge and keep the memory powered during the battery swap or use some expensive flash memory device which not many people know how or have the funds to do.
@meganacho8965
@meganacho8965 3 жыл бұрын
@@botterminator vbucks :)
@__-nu9zi
@__-nu9zi 3 жыл бұрын
@POO POOS r/woooosh
@hambonejones462
@hambonejones462 10 ай бұрын
The video that started an entire genre. Good for you, Pikasprey.
@Otonio_Bruno
@Otonio_Bruno 5 жыл бұрын
I feel sorry for the character in this video...imagine this: You're trapped in a room with a woman whom won't let you pass unless you win against her in a seemingly unwinnable pokémon battle. You can't go back the way you came since someone is barring the door and saying "Don't run away." at the same time he maniacally laugh. Your options are either bargain with Lorelei so she can actually use another pokémon instead of dewgong or outright let him pass or look at your Primeape and ask him to use Rage on yourself or itself to the point either you or Primeape itself faints and someone takes a pit on you and escort you out of this hellish-nightmare room. Or the 3rd option, just stare at Lorelei's ass until you pass out because you hadn't eaten for weeks. Nice stuff.
@danielwright873
@danielwright873 4 жыл бұрын
@Shares 4ever The rules state to deposit key items. Why the game lets you do that is beyond me
@scumbagproductions1431
@scumbagproductions1431 3 жыл бұрын
At that point I'd probably just drown myself in the water
@robocatssj3theofficial
@robocatssj3theofficial 2 жыл бұрын
You could also attempt to force Primeape to miss if this was realistic.
@Geffro
@Geffro 2 жыл бұрын
@@danielwright873 I believe key items took part of your inventory space. So if you don't deposit some key items, you won't be able to hold as many other things
@JinlongTheGoldenDragon
@JinlongTheGoldenDragon 2 жыл бұрын
It doesn't matter if she uses another pokemon first lol you'll still have to fight dewgong eventually, the battle remains unwinnable no matter what
@Gamechamp3000
@Gamechamp3000 6 жыл бұрын
One important question: does the game's RNG actually function in such a way that it can miss 20 times in a row? Depending on how RNG was implemented, it may not be possible due to the game running through a preset list of "random" results, with no possible method of manipulating the RNG to allow for 20 misses in a row. On the flip hand, if the RNG is manipulated by player input, a player aware of this could intentionally incur a miss every time in a TAS environment. I feel like you'd still need to prove the RNG allows for 20 misses in a row in the first place before you can definitively say this escape is possible.
@monkeyboosness6781
@monkeyboosness6781 6 жыл бұрын
I don't know about the RNG of it, but i recall fairly often playing my copy of Red, that I would encounter situations where if i kept using the same move, it would miss consecutively til i used another. Don't know if it can be replicated, or if i'm just unlucky, But i recall getting a game over vs an oddish because all i had left on my charmeleon was rage, and when i kept using it, it kept missing, until i used struggle, and I recall it being the first time i'd ever seen the move myself.
@jonahlouque9621
@jonahlouque9621 6 жыл бұрын
Hello there GameChamp!
@philhuntsman7588
@philhuntsman7588 6 жыл бұрын
Notice me gamechamp senpai!!!!!!
@ryanprower4246
@ryanprower4246 6 жыл бұрын
Gen 1, being Gen 1, runs it's RNG based on a global timer that, as far as I can tell, starts when you boot up the game.
@piplupglaceon3868
@piplupglaceon3868 6 жыл бұрын
Or just have rage with 1 pp and then miss then you struggle till you die
@marcomartinez856
@marcomartinez856 5 жыл бұрын
Maybe it's because im watching this at 5 am and sleep deprevation is getting to me, but this video not only made me anxious, but also completely horrified me. The thought of being stuck In some sort of infinite loop with seemingly no way to escape completely messed with my mind.
@LuNa_097
@LuNa_097 2 жыл бұрын
Atleast you're stuck with Lorelei
@stevencruz9336
@stevencruz9336 5 жыл бұрын
When I was a kid I thought the guy in front of cerulean cave had a tall Afro.
@aaroncallahan119
@aaroncallahan119 4 жыл бұрын
Hah so did I.
@ShamrockFreddyGamer
@ShamrockFreddyGamer 4 жыл бұрын
Wait. HE DOESNT HAVE AN AFRO
@trollshamanpwnage
@trollshamanpwnage 2 жыл бұрын
Nice work bro, this is very comprehensive and deep.
@endeavorrattata7839
@endeavorrattata7839 6 жыл бұрын
Anyone who missed rage 20 times Buy a lottery ticket.
@eVill420
@eVill420 5 жыл бұрын
they will probably accidentally buy two tickets, accidentally eat the other one, scratch the other one, win the jackpot and while they're returning it have a violent fit of diarea crapping out the other ticket, looking at it and noticing that it's another jackpot that was printed accidentally, returning it and the lottery accepting both of them
@someone2427
@someone2427 5 жыл бұрын
Just use savestates bruh
@QuinGracia
@QuinGracia 5 жыл бұрын
?** or twenty
@kamoroso94
@kamoroso94 5 жыл бұрын
Being lucky once has no affect on being lucky again.
@MrBigbrownies
@MrBigbrownies 5 жыл бұрын
its easy to miss rage 20 times in an emulator.
@kiffe22
@kiffe22 7 жыл бұрын
why is this so interesting??
@red.d0430
@red.d0430 7 жыл бұрын
kiffe22 it's something we like and his voice is so intresting? Or I don't know
@xzs432
@xzs432 7 жыл бұрын
It's because his voice and you also like math in the case of this video!
@danielfelipesanchezvargas4108
@danielfelipesanchezvargas4108 7 жыл бұрын
I know I hate the math clases about the odds, but then I CAME to watch a weird guy talking about the possibility to miss 20 attacks to scape from a ridicolous situation you put yourself into xD
@jeremyjosh5910
@jeremyjosh5910 5 жыл бұрын
07:41 Just like me every morning
@DJTileTurnip
@DJTileTurnip 5 жыл бұрын
Wow I read this comment as he said it
@MarcD627
@MarcD627 5 жыл бұрын
you should see a doctor about that
@professionalfangster1510
@professionalfangster1510 3 жыл бұрын
@@MarcD627 I'm pretty sure that's a normal human occurance.
@patrykboduch9458
@patrykboduch9458 5 жыл бұрын
The way you summed this all up was hilarious xD
@infernodeity
@infernodeity 6 жыл бұрын
I can actually make it alot easier. Gen 1 RNG is time based, so it would simply be a matter of Waiting the correct number of frames. A TAS could get out of it.
@LiEnby
@LiEnby 6 жыл бұрын
Isnt there also some shit with button inputs
@islilyyagirl
@islilyyagirl 6 жыл бұрын
there is some random ****** with button inputs that influences RNG, so you're right.
@Pigmoneythe3rd
@Pigmoneythe3rd 6 жыл бұрын
Hesusio TAS also stands for tool assisted superplay, in situations like that. But then that moves the question to if it's really superplay if you're losing on purpose
@DougSalad
@DougSalad 6 жыл бұрын
Tool Assisted Soft-Lockpicking There. Happy?
@diablo.the.cheater
@diablo.the.cheater 6 жыл бұрын
tool asisted stupidity.
@williamrees9928
@williamrees9928 7 жыл бұрын
I feel like the odds of somebody entering Lorelei's room under those conditions on accident are just as impossible as getting out. L
@Jim.E.Rustler
@Jim.E.Rustler 6 жыл бұрын
William Rees That's why this video is a *Tutorial*
@an_annoying_cat
@an_annoying_cat 6 жыл бұрын
William Rees yeah
@glowstonelovepad9294
@glowstonelovepad9294 3 жыл бұрын
With emulator savestates, you can save every time it hits, and reset whenever it misses. So the chance becomes 1/5120 (5120 is 20*256.)
@LuNa_097
@LuNa_097 2 жыл бұрын
It will always be the same if you use a savestate
@manologamerss5801
@manologamerss5801 2 жыл бұрын
Even then it's only a second or so more to just wait for it to attack again.
@dudono1744
@dudono1744 2 жыл бұрын
i already toyed with savestates when i had a few pokeballs left, always same result no matter the inputd
@owoberon4947
@owoberon4947 2 жыл бұрын
​@@dudono1744 actually it's not always the same, at least not on generation 3. i captured all legendaries using only one pokeball for each
@lancapolida3792
@lancapolida3792 2 жыл бұрын
@@dudono1744 the thing that remains is the move the enemy will use Ive used that 1 hit ko move that I think lapras learns and you can totally get it to hit 100% of the time instead of the 25% I think it originally had. I think the enemy's next attack is decided before the player gets to make a decision, cause you can manipulate the next-next move your enemy chooses, but not the next. Sorry for the confusing explanation, it's late and I'm dumb
@matteo-ciaramitaro
@matteo-ciaramitaro 5 жыл бұрын
This series is great. this is my 4th video so im subscribing. Great job!
@smokesparkdragonfly1368
@smokesparkdragonfly1368 6 жыл бұрын
This video wasnt pointless because i heard you say "pee pee depleted"
@dylanharding5720
@dylanharding5720 6 жыл бұрын
Wow. What has this world become??
@NateTDOM
@NateTDOM 6 жыл бұрын
I'm 16 and i'm laughing at this. So mature i am.
@Gryxll
@Gryxll 6 жыл бұрын
mfw
@doomslayerobama
@doomslayerobama 6 жыл бұрын
...HAHAHHAHAAHHAHAHAHAHA
@queryneo
@queryneo 6 жыл бұрын
That's not funn-HAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHHH@AHAHAHAHAHNSSOCKLWKDBHUWQKDHSJAMQBSHFHJSKQMQ #KGIVKKSK2
@ryugetsuuu
@ryugetsuuu 7 жыл бұрын
oh wow this video was amazing XD the time lost was 100% worth it
@King_Luigi
@King_Luigi 7 жыл бұрын
I'd say it was closer to 99.6109% worth it myself.
@BlackDragon41sbm
@BlackDragon41sbm 2 жыл бұрын
I've encountered 2 shinies back to back on the old Emerald where shiny odds are always 8000+. It was Smergal, I thought red tail was the common color at the time because I encountered 2 in a row, but then every Smergal after that was green. I was still new to shiny at that point as I had only ever caught a shiny Wurmple.
@wioetuw912
@wioetuw912 2 жыл бұрын
I'm pretty sure there are other ways to get out of that situation if you consider probabilities like that to fit within the definition of "possible". Something like a cosmic ray hitting the electronics and changing the game state in an appropriate way is probably vastly more likely than rage missing 20 times in a row.
@Korncakes1
@Korncakes1 6 жыл бұрын
Two things: 1. You could set Cinnabar Island as your respawn point, fly to the Indigo Plateau, release flying Pokemon, and once rage eventually misses 20 times in a row and KO’s itself, you’re stuck on Cinnabar. Bet you can’t escape that one. 2. “But the point is, I proved someone wrong on the internet.” Made me laugh out loud.
@theirritator5809
@theirritator5809 6 жыл бұрын
Can't you just use Tackle for that, or some other weak move? Since the goal is to get stuck on Cinnabar, you don't need to go and use Rage.
@smileyjones1742
@smileyjones1742 6 жыл бұрын
You didn’t say to release Pokemon that swim
@xcarnage8632
@xcarnage8632 6 жыл бұрын
Actually i think you may be able to fish water Pokemon that could learn the hm surf
@andersonortega1456
@andersonortega1456 6 жыл бұрын
But part of the rules are to throw all items away. Plus, rods are optional.
@teetoew
@teetoew 6 жыл бұрын
you're overlooking the fact he gets pp back once he dies
@lanceuppercut6168
@lanceuppercut6168 6 жыл бұрын
On the plus side, you'll have a looooong time to get to know Lorelei :D
@LerneanSteve
@LerneanSteve 6 жыл бұрын
Lance Uppercut ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
@clydie
@clydie 5 жыл бұрын
"yes so what inspired you to become a pokémon trainer"
@jakegordon4204
@jakegordon4204 5 жыл бұрын
As your Primeape mercilessly pounds her sleeping Dugong. That is the best time to hit on a girl.
@ultimateblade4127
@ultimateblade4127 5 жыл бұрын
@@jakegordon4204 That sounds like one hell of a euphemism.
@TheRationalRegiShow
@TheRationalRegiShow 5 жыл бұрын
Suprisingly this was a very interesting video. I really wanna see more 😂
@DJTileTurnip
@DJTileTurnip 4 жыл бұрын
"The PP will not go down"
@N0xN0ctis
@N0xN0ctis 6 жыл бұрын
By the way if every attempt at missing an attack (including reloading the game every time you missed) took only 1 second to accomplish, this feat would take on average 1.6*10^(55) times longer than the age of the Universe. So if you started at the instant of the Big Bang, you would, on average escape this softlock between once and twice before the heat death of the Universe occurred. AND that's IF the whole reloading thing took 1 second, which it doesn't.
@Ildskalli
@Ildskalli 6 жыл бұрын
I was thinking the same thing. I would consider it inescapable, because of the outright sidereal amount of time that this endeavor could take. Sure, you might get lucky and witness it during a human lifespan, but it's so ridiculously unlikely to happen...
@nahhhhhhhhhhhh
@nahhhhhhhhhhhh 6 жыл бұрын
This is assuming that every attempt that didn't work failed on the first try, isn't it? It could actually take far, far longer.
@FamusJamus
@FamusJamus 6 жыл бұрын
_bill lamook_ Bad news: They all got hit by lightning, floods and/or supernovae. What are the odds?
@Whoami691
@Whoami691 6 жыл бұрын
Imagine setting up 1 billion emulators only for the first fucking one to succeed.... Everything we know and understand would come crashing down.
@diablo.the.cheater
@diablo.the.cheater 6 жыл бұрын
and that considering that the rng permit that posibilty sience the rng are not truly randome, they do not have all posibility and such a remote posibility is most likely to be completly imposible even whit rng manipulation
@brng1755
@brng1755 6 жыл бұрын
I escaped three times in a row while jumping through burning rings on a unicycle with blindfolded eyes.
@inflatablemattress2
@inflatablemattress2 6 жыл бұрын
Bitch please. I did all that while eating a burrito
@Kyle-xk5nc
@Kyle-xk5nc 6 жыл бұрын
Ah bitches, all tree of yall are weak af, i did all this whilest getting struck by lightning infinitely without dieing after each lightning strike.
@mrorcadood
@mrorcadood 6 жыл бұрын
I did ALL of that while counting to 1 million while speedrunning the game on another Gameboy. While taking a nap.
@blakethesnake6686
@blakethesnake6686 6 жыл бұрын
mate i did that while playing minecwaft and woblox at the same time
@lebbum-5985
@lebbum-5985 6 жыл бұрын
All six of you are weak, i did all that while making 5 new atomic bombs under 10 seconds.
@dagalsevidxela1
@dagalsevidxela1 5 жыл бұрын
Hey, one problem I noticed about getting out of this soft lock: you assume the number generator in the first generation Pokémon games are truly random. Or most games for that matter. Most number generators are pseudo-random meaning they just call a function to generate a new random number, meanings there is a set order to the random numbers. To specifically prove you could get 20 misses in a row, you would also have to prove that either 1) the there is another RNG call between each attempt at attacking, or 2) there is a sequence in the RNG list of numbers that all would result in a missed attack 20 times in a row. I enjoyed the video as always, have a great day!
@dylanftwmc335
@dylanftwmc335 3 жыл бұрын
Looks like some dream level luck. Aka impossible
@camilocuadrado3454
@camilocuadrado3454 3 жыл бұрын
The first part of the comment was already understandable enough, the "aka, impossible" only ruins the joke
@threepeater_gaming7710
@threepeater_gaming7710 3 жыл бұрын
I thought it was funny
@nasekiller
@nasekiller 3 жыл бұрын
actually, the dream situation would be much more likely than this.
@Icosalord
@Icosalord 2 жыл бұрын
@@nasekiller Getting dream luck 4 times in a row is more likely. So...yeah
@themineralsaint3096
@themineralsaint3096 7 жыл бұрын
I haven't seen this comment yet so I'll say it. "1 in 68 quindecillion". So you're saying there's a chance!?
@chayse2556
@chayse2556 6 жыл бұрын
TheMineralSaint So you're saying he already said that and you didn't watch the video till the end?
@josephdouglas5242
@josephdouglas5242 6 жыл бұрын
Whoosh
@persimmon93
@persimmon93 6 жыл бұрын
I did this more than 17 years ago and still remember it. Someone tricked me by saying I had to beat the 4 league members with pokemon that are less than level 15 in order to get a Mew but ended up being stuck in an endless loop where the Dewgong kept healing itself. I remember spending alot of time but eventually found a way to get the Dewgong to attack me by continuously switching between pokemon. I spent >3 hours to try to save my game but I guess if you only have 1 pokemon, thats not a plausible way to get out of the loop.
@flashkick540
@flashkick540 5 жыл бұрын
These videos are so good
@nwahnerevar9398
@nwahnerevar9398 5 жыл бұрын
You are the most epic gamer I've ever seen
@LtheOriginal
@LtheOriginal 7 жыл бұрын
3:35 So basically, the AI "could" spam their Super Powerful "should only have 5 or 8 depending on PP Ups used" Moves as many times as they like? Cheating assholes...
@TheMetastasia
@TheMetastasia 6 жыл бұрын
Yeah so you couldn´t just tank Legendaries that posses selfHeal attacks like in the new Generations lol
@deoxysandmew2162
@deoxysandmew2162 6 жыл бұрын
Hah! You better have Burn Heal!
@ilovemathandswimming
@ilovemathandswimming 6 жыл бұрын
Not as bad as the Battle .
@meccevil321
@meccevil321 5 жыл бұрын
Getting trapped by Lorelei is kind of fitting since she is named after a siren of german folklore who, sitting on the cliff above the Rhine and combing her golden hair, unwittingly distracted shipmen with her beauty and song, causing them to crash on the rocks. =)
@j.l5463
@j.l5463 5 жыл бұрын
very poetic
@willlllllllb
@willlllllllb 3 жыл бұрын
Certified iconic video
@veyselonair6948
@veyselonair6948 4 жыл бұрын
The Video is great, I love the sentence at the end 😂
@exantiuse497
@exantiuse497 5 жыл бұрын
I think the shiny example used in the video doesn't fully grasp how unlikely it is to miss 20 times in a row. Here's a better illustration: if there were a thousand universes like ours, and every star of every galaxy in each one of them was like Earth, and every human in every one of those Earths had been playing this scene on a thousand Gameboys for the entire existence of the universe there would be 0.1% chance that one of those tries resulted in Rage missing 20 times in a row. Yeah
@beta511ee4
@beta511ee4 5 жыл бұрын
Exantius E Show your process.
@fulgenzio89
@fulgenzio89 5 жыл бұрын
That was intense...
@drafura
@drafura 5 жыл бұрын
So, there's a chance !
@NickMK
@NickMK 5 жыл бұрын
Since the universe is infinite, there is actually a 100% chance of it happening, not only that but an infinite amount of players would successfully pull it off. As infinity simply put just keeps going. Therefore any possible scenario will eventually occur and it keeps going after that making each possible scenario occur an infinite amount of times. Infinity doesn´t fuck around
@Bayesic
@Bayesic 5 жыл бұрын
@@NickMK Even if the universe is infinite, there's only a finite amount of matter with which to make stars and planets... assuming we're not talking about Boltzmann brains... fuck
@fastpace101
@fastpace101 5 жыл бұрын
So you're saying there is a chance?
@tunace3503
@tunace3503 4 жыл бұрын
you can deposit fising rods in gen 1
@jacobw1780
@jacobw1780 4 жыл бұрын
100th like!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
@abhituran6789
@abhituran6789 2 жыл бұрын
I came here to learn about Pokemon And the dude taught me some advanced level probability equations
@NOCTURNALARROW
@NOCTURNALARROW 3 жыл бұрын
IDK how I'm just now discovering ur videos!
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