Hidden Door Bookshelf | Outswing | Full Build Video

Plans for sale here: onfirefamily.com/plans/
After so many people have reached out in response to this video, I finally created measured drawings you can purchase to help you with your project. Let me know what you think!
This was my second one of these. It's a great DIY built-in secret door hidden by an outswing bookcase with invisible hinges and a concealed latch! Open the bookcase to reveal a secret room in our attic. Check it out!
You'll need Hidden Door Hardware:
Hinge: amzn.to/3nFNpBR
Latch: amzn.to/37AUpua
Note: This is not Murphy Door or InvisiDoor hardware that folks use (they're much cheaper)!
My Saw: (many questions about this): amzn.to/3y8ntVn
My previous build video:
• Secret Hidden Door Boo...
Measured drawings of this are for sale here: onfirefamily.com/plans/
Music: Bensound
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[@njkay0033]

Only thing I would like to have explained was how you located/ plumbed the upper and lower hinges that were attached to the upper and lower jamb.

[@MrBatesHistory]

Exactly the walkthrough I've been looking for to make my under-the-stairs hidden bookshelf door. Thank you for sharing.

[@onFIREouttakes]

I’m glad it helped! Good luck with your project!

[@vogelaccount5902]

I wish we could post videos of completed projects! I finished our hidden bookshelf/door several months ago, and it is fantastic and simply blows people away when they see it! Thank you so very much for this video and advice!

[@onFIREouttakes]

That is awesome! I’m so glad it worked out and you are happy with the results! I’d love to see a pic. Email onFIREfamily @ hotmail.com

[@vintage1994]

Thanks so much for this update on the previous video! I'm starting my build and bought the same hinges you used. I was worried about accessing the screw, but your solution with drilling the small hole will be perfect!

[@onFIREouttakes]

Thanks! Good luck with your project!

[@andresbanda7542]

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[@onFIREouttakes]

I know it was a long time coming but I now have measured drawings available for this project. Sorry it took so long! You can find them here: onfirefamily.com/plans/ or at the link in the description of this video. I hope they help you with your project! Let me know what you think!

[@onFIREouttakes]

I know it was a long time coming but I now have measured drawings available for this project. Sorry it took so long! You can find them here: onfirefamily.com/plans/ or at the link in the description of this video. I hope they help you with your project! Let me know what you think!

[@misterx8592]

Thanks for the hinge mounting details. It certainly helped me install a hidden door. Very cool video!

[@onFIREouttakes]

Glad it helped with your project!

[@bryanchristensen5097]

@@onFIREouttakes how do you determine the placement of the pivots?

[@onFIREouttakes]

I know it was a long time coming but I now have measured drawings available for this project. Sorry it took so long! You can find them here: onfirefamily.com/plans/ or at the link in the description of this video. I hope they help you with your project! Let me know what you think!

[@jackietomkins5085]

These are great plans and they're very detailed. We're making a hidden cold pantry door 6 foot tall but otherwise the same dimensions. Our bottom hinge will go into ceramic tile so we may put a piece of 1x over the tile... rewatching this video for that reason ;)

[@onFIREouttakes]

Glad it helped! Good luck with your project!

[@jackietomkins5085]

Thank you 😁

[@georgegreer3843]

Fantastic step by step review on how to do this. Your perfection to detail matches mine. Thank you!

[@onFIREouttakes]

Glad it helped!

[@jeffz1terry]

Great video. I was looking for ideas on how the hinges work and glad I stumbled across this. I believe I will be using small magnets on the trim stop to hold the door shut though.

[@onFIREouttakes]

Thanks! I’m glad it helped with your project!

[@marcelmeilleur2796]

Just finished a closet door/bookcase. The small cabinet magnets didn't work for me. Had to upgrade to a larger 4" magnet to keep the door closed. Had a little bit of spring in the bookcase and needed extra contact power

[@rkhaira0170]

Excellent work, I'm starting a similar project and your tips provide a great starting point. I purchased the same pivot hinge and looking forward to making a hidden shelf.

[@onFIREouttakes]

Glad it was helpful!

[@TheSockMonkeyGuy]

One of the best how-to videos I've seen on this subject. Also the best hinge choice that I've seen. Well done! 🤗

[@onFIREouttakes]

Thank you! Really appreciate the comment!

[@TheSockMonkeyGuy]

@@onFIREouttakes It just occurred to me that a more reliable method of actuating the latch would be to use two solid steel rods with a bell crank to change the direction of motion from vertical to horizontal. This would eliminate the potential failure of wire or rope. Hope that's helpful! 🙂

[@onFIREouttakes]

I know it was a long time coming but I now have measured drawings available for this project. Sorry it took so long! You can find them here: onfirefamily.com/plans/ or at the link in the description of this video. I hope they help you with your project! Let me know what you think!

[@TheSockMonkeyGuy]

@@onFIREouttakes Just purchased and downloaded my copy! Thanks so much!

[@TheSockMonkeyGuy]

@@onFIREouttakes One suggestion for future editions: Consider including the links to the hardware in the PDF. Thanks again!

[@coolguydemon]

I have a client that's wanting a hidden door/bookcase leading into a wine cellar. Been browsing KZbin and other places for ideas. He's wanting to incorporate an antique Oriental mahogany door that the bookcase will swing out to reveal (The Oriental door will then swing in.. ). So I still have plenty of design and brainstorming to do, but your video helped me well on my way! Also, those hinges are absolutely amazing!

[@onFIREouttakes]

Thanks! Glad it helped!

[@user-fy4om6yv3b]

Thanks ! You did a great job!

[@onFIREouttakes]

Glad it was helpful!

[@sabinablessington664]

Fantastic!! Exactly what I was planning on doing, a little larger.........but you have given me the hinge solution!

[@onFIREouttakes]

Awesome! Glad I could help! Good luck with your project!

[@onFIREouttakes]

I know it was a long time coming but I now have measured drawings available for this project. Sorry it took so long! You can find them here: onfirefamily.com/plans/ or at the link in the description of this video. I hope they help you with your project! Let me know what you think!

[@CourteneyRice]

This is so impressive. Excellent work.

[@onFIREouttakes]

Thank you! Much appreciated!

[@jaimieee4321]

You are AMAZING!!! You make it look too easy! Going to ask Hubby for a table saw for Christmas!

[@stephandevriesere3667]

This was excactly the kind of door i was looking for to make in my attic. I have my office in the attic and have a flimsy door to enter it. My wife would like to have a closet on the attic for the soap and other things for the washer and dryer. This would do the trick. Great tutorial. I've got some work to do lol.

[@onFIREouttakes]

I’m glad it helped! Best of luck with your project!

[@casabenavidez7757]

Dude! ANY chance on getting a build/spec video for that table saw set up you have! that looks AWESOME.

[@onFIREouttakes]

Search around here for the plans I copied: www.lumberjocks.com/threads/table-saw-router-station-for-sawstop-contractor-saw.344045/?post_id=2280575&nested_view=1&sortby=oldest#post-2280575

[@jasonsnow4165]

Thank you for doing this video. I've been looking for a tutorial on this, other videos were full size doors not access panel like you had. And they weren't as descriptive.

[@onFIREouttakes]

You are very welcome! Good luck with your project!

[@connieromanishan6780]

I’ve watched a few videos on making this type door. Your construction is by far the best. I want my bookcase to look like a permanent bookcase - not an IKEA hack. So, I will definitely be following your guidelines. Thank you for making this video.

[@onFIREouttakes]

Thank you so much for the kind comment! I’m glad this video helped!

[@jonoswellii9708]

Wow, great job. Very impressive. I'm looking forward to more videos from you.👍

[@onFIREouttakes]

Thanks!

[@giannismarkidis9546]

Perfect. Just... perfect. John from Greece!!

[@onFIREouttakes]

Thanks! I’m glad it helped!

[@justinsimmons722]

Thanks for the video, just used it to create a hidden bookcase with these hinges.

[@onFIREouttakes]

That’s awesome! Glad it helped!

[@garrethyoung3603]

Very informative video. This answered many questions that I had. Thanks 🙏

[@onFIREouttakes]

You are welcome! I’m glad it helped!

[@shektracy9151]

Thank you for sharing, that’s the great idea and easy way to make what I want. ❤

[@onFIREouttakes]

I’m glad it helped!

[@nkybeekeeper3365]

Very helpful! Clever ideas. Thank you

[@onFIREouttakes]

Thanks!

[@iansullivan9590]

Excellent walkthrough video. Thankyou.

[@onFIREouttakes]

Glad it was helpful!

[@jdubya54]

Thanks for sharing. Exactly what i need

[@onFIREouttakes]

Glad it helped!

[@df7838]

I think thus fella has a bit of a love obsession with that top hinge 😂

[@onFIREouttakes]

❤️

[@jarrodstroh9986]

Outstanding!

[@onFIREouttakes]

Thank you kindly!

[@sfnole8207]

Awesome video. Detailed with everything you need to know to do the job. One suggestion…instead of a latch to secure the door closed, have you considered using an embedded magnet and a piece of metal to hold it closed?

[@onFIREouttakes]

Thanks! Yes, I think a magnet would work well. It just takes away a bit of the magic but should be totally effective.

[@orbepa]

Really enjoyed that - thank you

[@onFIREouttakes]

You are welcome! Thanks for watching!

[@mikedziak2759]

Very nice build out!

[@onFIREouttakes]

Thanks!

[@awizardalso]

My real name is Michael McCluskey. What I watched you do was amazing. The house we live in was built in 1913. I did tear out most of the walls in the bathroom. I put fiberglass insulation in before I installed the drywall. I also replaced all the plumbing with CPVC pipes and the drain pipes with white PVC pipes from the roof to the basement

[@onFIREouttakes]

Wow. Lots of work. Well done!

[@onFIREouttakes]

I know it was a long time coming but I now have measured drawings available for this project. Sorry it took so long! You can find them here: onfirefamily.com/plans/ or at the link in the description of this video. I hope they help you with your project! Let me know what you think!

[@herminioamuniz]

Great video. Thanks for taking the time.

[@onFIREouttakes]

You bet! Thanks for watching! Glad it helped!

[@mutigers88]

Super Great Job!!! I think you just sold a hinge for my project. Thank you.

[@onFIREouttakes]

Awesome! Glad it helped! Good luck with your project!

[@onFIREouttakes]

I know it was a long time coming but I now have measured drawings available for this project. Sorry it took so long! You can find them here: onfirefamily.com/plans/ or at the link in the description of this video. I hope they help you with your project! Let me know what you think!

[@daddypapi3842]

Great work, thank you!!

[@onFIREouttakes]

You bet! Thanks for watching!

[@tjrichardson2011]

that was really cool, thank you for taking the time to video that, was really helpful.

[@onFIREouttakes]

Thanks for the comment!

[@ChipyRose]

Brilliant!

[@onFIREouttakes]

Thanks!

[@cristianomascena5663]

Thank you for your great how to install a hidden door course.🇧🇷🇺🇸

[@onFIREouttakes]

You are welcome! I’m glad it helped!

[@Remodelaholic]

Nice work and great video!

[@onFIREouttakes]

Thank you very much!

[@mr-vet]

Awesome!

[@onFIREouttakes]

Thanks!

[@Asidebar]

VERY NICE!

[@onFIREouttakes]

Thanks!

[@MJ-wz6jo]

Good idea for a hidden room door.

[@onFIREouttakes]

Glad you like it!

[@JP.Collections]

Amazing! Thanks for the video!

[@onFIREouttakes]

Glad you liked it!

[@andrewcartinger2455]

great job 👍

[@onFIREouttakes]

Thank you! I appreciate the comment!

[@hajimeangel8517]

Thank you

[@onFIREouttakes]

You're welcome!

[@Pete.Ty1]

👍👍👍 well thought out

[@onFIREouttakes]

Thanks! I appreciate the feedback!

[@FloridaBikeVlogger]

is it me or does anyone else want of tour of that lil nook he made.

[@onFIREouttakes]

It's a pretty unimpressive attic storage space but I did add some LED light strips to spruce it up! Thanks for watching, David!

[@scottslotterbeck3796]

Clever!

[@oscargrouch71]

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[@kenmorales7995]

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[@GregoryGuay]

Very Clever!

[@onFIREouttakes]

Thank you! Cheers!

[@Akhazmat907]

That is awesome.

[@onFIREouttakes]

Thanks Mr. Chris! Glad you liked it!

[@onFIREouttakes]

I know it was a long time coming but I now have measured drawings available for this project. Sorry it took so long! You can find them here: onfirefamily.com/plans/ or at the link in the description of this video. I hope they help you with your project! Let me know what you think!

[@M5tworude]

Good video, thanks. Good use of PPE!

[@onFIREouttakes]

Thanks!

[@onFIREouttakes]

I know it was a long time coming but I now have measured drawings available for this project. Sorry it took so long! You can find them here: onfirefamily.com/plans/ or at the link in the description of this video. I hope they help you with your project! Let me know what you think!

[@theurbanartist775]

Great video 🫡

[@onFIREouttakes]

Thanks! Glad it helped!

[@TransferFlowInc]

Quick suggestion... You can make your dados in a fraction of the time with a router. Thanks for figuring out everything else!

[@onFIREouttakes]

Thanks! Good tip!

[@paulwhitehead3002]

Could use two or three neodymium magnets heavy duty strength with about a one pound pull on each to keep the book case door shut

[@onFIREouttakes]

Great idea. Thanks, Paul!

[@sthomas7211]

They do make large version of magnetic door latches like the old cabinets had. Worked great for my door. Got them at home Depot.

[@onFIREouttakes]

I know it was a long time coming but I now have measured drawings available for this project. Sorry it took so long! You can find them here: onfirefamily.com/plans/ or at the link in the description of this video. I hope they help you with your project! Let me know what you think!

[@harryedwards9318]

Superb 😊

[@onFIREouttakes]

Thanks! Glad it was helpful!

[@jwnuke]

Nice Job.

[@onFIREouttakes]

Thanks!

[@onFIREouttakes]

Hi everyone! I know it was a long time coming but I now have measured drawings available for this project. Sorry it took so long! You can find them here: onfirefamily.com/plans/ or at the link in the description of this video. I hope they help you with your project! Let me know what you think!

[@user-df9ep1xz8n]

I'm using 1" boards for the jam

[@onFIREouttakes]

Should work if well supported.

[@KLJ284]

Great video

[@onFIREouttakes]

Glad you enjoyed it

[@kranson8514]

Nice good job 👏

[@onFIREouttakes]

Thank you! Cheers!

[@make.believe.woodworking]

I'm curious how you decided where to place the hinge point? how far back from the front edge, how far from the side face.... and does it really matter as long as you are consistent between the positioning of the top and bottom hinge?

[@onFIREouttakes]

Placement for me was trial and error by creating a template and adjusting the hinge point until I got the swing and clearances right. For the bookcase to not hit the frame when swinging, you do have to place them right (and top and bottom need to match, of course).

[@billybob-zg4bx]

Wish there was more info on the template and spacing sizes of the rough opening compared to the O.D. Of the shelving unit, but all in all a great video and a good place to start.

[@onFIREouttakes]

Thanks! Yeah, I’ll get around to more template details eventually.

[@onFIREouttakes]

I know it was a long time coming but I now have measured drawings available for this project. Sorry it took so long! You can find them here: onfirefamily.com/plans/ or at the link in the description of this video. I hope they help you with your project! Let me know what you think!

[@calmac06]

Could you flip hinges top to bottom to make mortising out easier for the bigger hinge? Fill "access hole" for pin lever screw in with a wooden dowel afterwards? Thoughts?

[@onFIREouttakes]

These hinges will not flip. The adjustable pin one will not support vertical weight. The bottom one has a ball bearing inside to make the opening smooth. You could fill the upper hole with a dowel though.

[@kitchenandwardrobe]

Good work 💪👷

[@onFIREouttakes]

Thanks!

[@onFIREouttakes]

I know it was a long time coming but I now have measured drawings available for this project. Sorry it took so long! You can find them here: onfirefamily.com/plans/ or at the link in the description of this video. I hope they help you with your project! Let me know what you think!

[@NastasiaMikulishna]

Круто! Спасибо.🌻

[@onFIREouttakes]

Thanks, I think.

[@pabloramos236]

Hey great work! Could you post what the measurements for the hinge placement that you used were? from the edge of the shelf to the pivot point. Thanks in advanced.

[@onFIREouttakes]

Thanks! The measurements are a little complicated so I made measured drawings to download. Check out the link in the description of the video below to download them.

[@blakecramsie7059]

@@onFIREouttakes hello, I don’t see links below for the measurements?

[@onFIREfamily]

@@blakecramsie7059 you have to buy the drawings. Link in the description of the video.

[@elizabethj238]

Great video! As a relative novice, I’m concerned about the top and bottom pivot points not being totally aligned / plumb…what’s the easiest way to ensure they are aligned?

[@onFIREouttakes]

Make sure the opening is square and plumb and that the wall is vertical. If it is, measure the same spot top and bottom from the frame (or make a template and use it to mark both hinge locations. That’s what I did anyway.

[@joshlowe850]

Nice project. You mentioned caulking the bottom to conceal the gap, but wouldn't that interfere with the door opening? Or were you just talking about a gap line between the trim and the wall? I am thinking of doing a similar install on an attic opening, but thinking of how to keep a seal to limit drafts/air gaps. The sides are easy enough, but the pivot hinge complicates the top and bottom. Did you add any type of weather stripping?

[@onFIREouttakes]

Just caulking between the trim and wall. I added garage door trim seal to the top and bottom and it helps to seal that gap.

[@ToddRichards-Omaha]

Great video! I ordered these hinges a few weeks ago for a similar project but have been scratching my head ever since! Your video was super helpful. I love the idea of using a template for the pin position. How much smaller than the opening did you make your bookcase? And how did you determine the placement of the hinges? Their instructions are horrible!

[@onFIREouttakes]

Thanks, Todd! Yes, the instructions are terrible. I left half an inch gap on the hinge side and 1 inch on the latch side. The hinge point (trial and error for me) on my template is 3 in from the edge of the cabinet and 1 7/8” from the front of the shelf. I hope that helps!

[@davidhughes1201]

@@onFIREouttakes yeah i WOULD HAVE LIKE MORE TIME SPENT ON MAKING THE TEMPLATE RATHER THAN WATCHING YOU RIP WOOD

[@onFIREouttakes]

Yeah, good feedback. So many folks have been interested in building this project, I may do another video and create a pdf drawing to help people. Best of luck.

[@jeremycarragher4614]

@@onFIREouttakes amazing videos, very helpful. Count me in as one extremely interested in a pdf and material list. Can't wait to give it a try.

[@sais9221]

@@onFIREouttakes great video 👍. I am thinking of doing exactly this in one of our bedrooms corner space but have no idea where to start. A follow up video with a pdf details would be super awesome. Thanks so much for sharing!

[@davidbracetty]

Thanks for the in depth video! Would you still use the same hinge if the bottom floor of the door was concrete basement floor?

[@onFIREouttakes]

Yes, although it would be much harder to drill for that cup to be recessed. I’m not sure how it would work and you’d have to modify the bottom of the cabinet but you much think about mounting that bottom hinge upside down?

[@kylewoodward7078]

Awesome! New sub

[@onFIREouttakes]

Thanks for the sub!

[@tara9319]

Excellent video! Thank you! What was your clearance - top and bottom?

[@onFIREouttakes]

I shot for 1/4in gap at the bottom and then my half inch plywood trim plus 1/8" gap for the top.

[@onFIREouttakes]

I know it was a long time coming but I now have measured drawings available for this project. Sorry it took so long! You can find them here: onfirefamily.com/plans/ or at the link in the description of this video. I hope they help you with your project! Let me know what you think!

[@onetechyguy1]

Great tutorial! I’m going to be building one in an attic location just like yours. What size smaller did you build the bookcase to fit inside your inside opening dimension so that it will fit without being too tight? 1/8” smaller? Thanks

[@dragade101]

Can you overload this style of hinge? It seems like they might bind if you have enough weight away from the axis the door rotates about.

[@onFIREouttakes]

I haven’t had an issue when fully loaded with books. Because it rides on a ball bearing, I think it would be just fine.

[@hanssenjones]

Wonder if some fairly strong magnets recessed in the trim that is attached to the shelf would hold up and keep it closed?

[@onFIREouttakes]

Yes, that should work!

[@ogcardscammer4921]

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[@onFIREouttakes]

Thanks!

[@onFIREouttakes]

I know it was a long time coming but I now have measured drawings available for this project. Sorry it took so long! You can find them here: onfirefamily.com/plans/ or at the link in the description of this video. I hope they help you with your project! Let me know what you think!

[@ogcardscammer4921]

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[@arthurperrea3714]

Nice build I'm building a pantry door with shevles on the inside and been trying to find a good way to hid hinges and hold weight .where and what hinges did you use I couldn't find your link .thank you and again nice video explain a lot

[@onFIREouttakes]

It's in the video description: Hinge: amzn.to/3nFNpBR, Latch: amzn.to/37AUpua Good luck with your project!

[@arthurperrea3714]

@@onFIREouttakes thank you

[@mugens]

Can you access that hinge pin from the top since you had to cut out for the whole top hinge? Saving drilling that pin hole on top of shelve.

[@onFIREouttakes]

Unfortunately, no. When you install it this way you have to have that hold to access the screw that adjusts the pin.

[@onFIREouttakes]

I know it was a long time coming but I now have measured drawings available for this project. Sorry it took so long! You can find them here: onfirefamily.com/plans/ or at the link in the description of this video. I hope they help you with your project! Let me know what you think!

[@bendova3440]

Great video! Been meaning to do this.. Can this be done with a pre-made book shelf? Just add the hinges?

[@onFIREouttakes]

Probably with modifications. Most shelves are not strong enough on their own to support weight without sitting on the ground. If you strengthened it, and then framed the opening to fit the size of the shelf, it might work.

[@extremelocura]

Thank you very much for this video. I’m in the process of doing a full size shelf that is 47”W x 67”H x 15”D and even though I already ordered the same hinges, I don’t think it’s going to hold the weight. Any ideas as to the max dimensions or weight you can do without it sagging? Thanks for any

[@onFIREouttakes]

Sorry, I’ve never pushed it. They are very robust hinges. The bottom hinge holds all the weight. The top just keeps it from tipping and holds no weight. If you plan to fully load it with books it may give you trouble. If it’s just the bookcase with some decorations, you may be okay.

[@onFIREouttakes]

Good luck with your project!

[@tylerstark7131]

This is great. I’m building an out swing door currently. My trim on the hinge side is numbing the door only allowing me to open about 1/2 way the door OR have a huge gap. Do I need to make an adjustment to my hinge positioning?

[@onFIREouttakes]

Yes, move the hinge point closer to the center and it should allow the door to swing clear of that trim.

[@clarkkent4991]

That’s is really nice. I like it. I wonder why you wouldn’t use another braided metal rope as the backup? You used 550. Thanks

[@onFIREouttakes]

Thanks! Yeah, I could have used a second metal one as a backup but the 550 was flexible, handy, and easy to use.

[@clarkkent4991]

@@onFIREouttakes Makes sense too. Thanks for the vid. I hope to start my door project in a few wks when I get some time to concentrate on it.

[@diybuildandlife207]

A couple of things are unclear to me. Good project. 1. I tried doing this with a small sample but I had difficulty pivoting the top into the hinge after fixing the bottom. I needed to increase the gap. What is the clearance you left between top of door and frame as well as left, right and bottom? 2. How did such a large gap at the bottom get caulked and filled?

[@robertszostak1953]

How much clearance from the top do you need to position the door past the set screw and hinge bolt that sits proud of the top horizontal jamb? I would like to maximize the height of the shelf. I guess they’re variables in play here. Ie depth of shelf…width of jamb rough opening etc. but do you remember yours?

[@johnbearjunkyard]

How do you think a smart deadbolt would work? One that detects when you're close and automatically unlocks?

[@onFIREouttakes]

I have no experience with them and how they mount but if it’s accessible from the outside to manually actuate (or change batteries) it should work. Maybe a magnet to hold it closed too so it doesn’t just pop open every time you walk by.

[@dan180y7]

Hi i want to do something similar to this in my ensuite bathroom, there was a standard depth bathroom cabinet but behind it there is a 0.5m deep void space above the stairs, i want to have a standard opening bathroom cabinet but then press a latch or something which will then swing the whole cabinet open to reveal the much bigger storage concealed behind it. any ideas ?

[@onFIREouttakes]

That's a tough one. These hinges might work for that application. You'd just swing the entire cabinet with a door on the front. Clearance on that hinge side will be an issue though.

[@kolobkolobkolobkolob]

QUESTION. Door Hinges! Hello. I may be just missing it but could you post the link to the door hinges you are using. Thanks . Super video. I've actually wanted do this for some time using the attic door space for a door type shelving and guess the hidden part is an extra.The again

[@onFIREouttakes]

Yeah, the link is in the description of the video. Some mobile devices or TV's don't show the descriptions so you may need a desktop.

[@onFIREouttakes]

I know it was a long time coming but I now have measured drawings available for this project. Sorry it took so long! You can find them here: onfirefamily.com/plans/ or at the link in the description of this video. I hope they help you with your project! Let me know what you think!

[@chicoespertoensina5317]

Thank you so much for your video and explanation. I am going to do something similar to my daughter's. A hidden room. I am going to use the same techniques as you have used here. The only difference is that the gap is in brick and concrete. I will for sure have several doubts while constructing it. Can I ask them here to you or do you have other way. Thank you so much again

[@onFIREouttakes]

Thanks! Good luck with your project! Ask here. I try to respond to every question (and it might help someone else with their build). Best of luck!

[@onFIREouttakes]

I know it was a long time coming but I now have measured drawings available for this project. Sorry it took so long! You can find them here: onfirefamily.com/plans/ or at the link in the description of this video. I hope they help you with your project! Let me know what you think!

[@chicoespertoensina5317]

@@onFIREouttakes thank you so much!!! Your drawings came just at the perfect time!!! The work rgd the insulation is now done and I am about to start building the door!

[@onFIREouttakes]

@@chicoespertoensina5317 Excellent! I’m so glad it’s helpful to you! Good luck with your project and let me know if anything is unclear in the plans!

[@chicoespertoensina5317]

@@onFIREouttakes Hey Seth. Nice to approach you again. So I am now building the structure that allows access to the Hideout. I made 2 book shelves out of 3. The one that is in the center (the one I didn't make yet) matches the dimensions of the opening to the Hideout. Above the book shelves I have plasterboard so the wall made of plaster will have the same continuity as the bookshelf. In the opening in the place where I am going to attach the hinge mechanism I have a brick full of cement inside (this brick is hidden behind the plaster wall) I have two questions: 1) At the backside of the bookshelves should I put a wood or do you think a thin plywood will work? I am asking this because it would be much easier with the last option. Plywood I need the one that we can bend it. 2) Can I set the hinge mechanism in the door frame- in this case inside the brick (it was the reason I put it)? Or should I install a wood just below to attach the hinge? Thank you so much again

[@Hello_I_am_Jeff]

How big of a gap did you have to leave on each side for the door to swing properly?

[@onFIREouttakes]

The gap is different on each side (for mine). Details are in the plans (link in description). If you still have questions, shoot me an email and I’m happy to help!

[@jarelyj.1172]

Did you get the I shape bookshelf hardware? They have a ton of options

[@onFIREouttakes]

There’s a link to the exact one I used in the video description.

[@mattc6173]

What's the depth of the bookcase? Working on plans for a similar murphy door, but am having trouble figuring out how deep I can make the unit without catching on the outswing

[@onFIREouttakes]

Mine is 7inches deep. I hope that helps. Good luck with your project!

[@mattc6173]

@@onFIREouttakes Is that including the 1/2 ply on the back?

[@onFIREouttakes]

I just measured and it’s 6.75in for shelf depth. 7.25in with the back on it.

[@onFIREouttakes]

I left a 1in gap between the door and the frame on the non-hinge side for clearance.

[@onFIREouttakes]

I know it was a long time coming but I now have measured drawings available for this project. Sorry it took so long! You can find them here: onfirefamily.com/plans/ or at the link in the description of this video. I hope they help you with your project! Let me know what you think!

[@tomkulic5159]

As I'm scrolling thru my feed I see the pic and thought for sure the title was going to be "Ernest builds a bookshelf door!". To me that dude looks the same as Jim Varney aka Ernest (RIP).

[@onFIREouttakes]

This might be my favorite comment. Thanks, Tom!

[@tomkulic5159]

@@onFIREouttakes with all respect of course!

[@onFIREouttakes]

Of course! 🙂

[@brianvannorman1465]

Nifty

[@onFIREouttakes]

Thanks!

[@bigsmudge2014]

Did you mortise all 4 hinge areas or just some. I spent way too long today trying to get spacing correct and get everything to fit.

[@onFIREouttakes]

Sorry for the delayed response! I bet you’ve got it fixed by now. I just mortised some of the plates (the top). The bottom I left proud of the frame (and shelf).

[@chubbieminami3274]

Great video! Hello from Japan. I have a question. I want change a door to a room to be hidden but I am afraid the other side would look odd. I wanted to make a narrow shelf for small souvenirs on both sides. Since I am not sure how the hinge works, I assume there could be some issues for making the door look hidden from the other side due to some gaps between the door and frame you won't be able to fill. Am I correct in thinking so? It is okay for the other side to look odd but I just want to know if there would be gaps. I cannot find a video of how the door would look from the opposite side.

[@onFIREouttakes]

I don’t think it’s possible to trim out both sides to make it look good with these hinges from both sides. One side will always lack the trim necessary to hide that it’s a door.

[@chubbieminami3274]

@@onFIREouttakes Thank you for your response. I am now a subscriber!!

[@thef14d]

can you place the hinges down the floor, or the door has to be above the ground?

[@onFIREouttakes]

You would just need to recess the hinge cup in the floor but otherwise that would work just fine.

[@davidditman8206]

So to do a out swing would you just move the hinges to the opposite side of the frame you did? Great video FYI

[@onFIREouttakes]

This is an out swing as it comes out from the hidden attic into the room. There are easier designs/hinges if you want the bookshelf to swing into the wall. If you just want to change which side the hinge is on, yes, you can just put it on the other side of the frame. I hope that helps, David! Thanks for watching!

[@davidditman8206]

@@onFIREouttakes I switched that didnt I?! I meant in LOL

[@onFIREouttakes]

Yes, I think you could move the hinges to the other side of the frame and more toward the corner. Honestly, there are cheaper hinges to accomplish an inswing.

[@onFIREouttakes]

I know it was a long time coming but I now have measured drawings available for this project. Sorry it took so long! You can find them here: onfirefamily.com/plans/ or at the link in the description of this video. I hope they help you with your project! Let me know what you think!

[@lindsirae1]

I’m stuck…I have it all built, but when I go to test fit the bookcase with the hinges, I can’t fit the bookcase in the frame because of the hinges. I left gaps on the top and bottom of the frame for clearance…maybe I didn’t leave enough of a gap? Could I make each of the hinges flush with the bookcase and frame to create more of a gap?

[@onFIREouttakes]

Oh no! Sorry, Lindsi! Yes, that's exactly what I would do. Recess the face plate of the hinges where you need to to provide that clearance. Hit me up if you have more trouble and I can try to help you out.

[@nikigoltermann5898]

Where did you buy that latch you are using, i cant find it anywhere, and the ones i do find has opposite closing direction. Can you send a link to it?

[@onFIREouttakes]

It is linked in the description of the video. Good luck with your project!

[@aunicorninwv]

I have to say, I admire your shop. Those battery powered Ryobi power tools you use? How well are they lasting? Also...I'd suggest a magnetic latch inside to keep the shelf door closed. Got a question. We have a mobile home and I'd like a French door style hidden door to lead into the middle bedroom we are redoing to make into a laundry and storage room. Cause we need one more than a second bedroom. Any ideas how to do that? My domestic partner is the crafty one with power tools. I just do the blueprints and come up with the ideas... And hold the flashlight. Yes, you can laugh at that.

[@onFIREouttakes]

Thanks, Becky! I like Ryobi and they have been great tools. Lasting well. I've tossed a couple of my older batteries, 5 years old or so, because they stopped holding a charge for long but other than that I've been very happy. Magnet latch is a good idea, thanks! If it's an outswing style of french door you seek, maybe this design will work (just add a mirror image of it on the opposite side). There are many more videos out there for inswing doors if that's what you're looking for.

[@aunicorninwv]

@@onFIREouttakes thanks for the suggestion. I'll see what we can figure out. Could one use a piano hinge instead of the hinges you use, or would that be ill advised?

[@onFIREouttakes]

I think long ones that would cover most of the length of the door would work.

[@onFIREouttakes]

I know it was a long time coming but I now have measured drawings available for this project. Sorry it took so long! You can find them here: onfirefamily.com/plans/ or at the link in the description of this video. I hope they help you with your project! Let me know what you think!