When Should We Forgive? || P4G Analysis - Yumi Ozawa

[@Christian-gr3gu]

"I HATE MY DAD" "Then drama practice got really akward"

[@statesminds]

I really related to Yumi's story. My dad left me and my mom's life then only tried coming back when I was older and while I was still angry at him then he died before I forgave him and gave him a chance. By the time I learned that he cared and was proud of me, it was too late. I've had to live with that regret.

[@HidinginPrivate]

Wow. When you said you related I never imagined it would hit that close to home, even with the details like so. Losing a parent is always tragic, even a distant one, even one you may not have been on good terms with. Hope you're doing alright now

[@statesminds]

@@HidinginPrivate thank you. I have come to terms with it and have visited his grave since. I played persona 4 golden recently actually and picked Yumi’s link first and was super shocked how similar it was to my situation. I found your channel shortly afterward completing the game and really enjoy your videos. Thanks for making such good analysis videos. The game truly means a lot to me and glad I finally got a PC to be able to play it because it never seemed it was coming to consoles.

[@SkyeRwby]

I really liked Yumi's social link from beginning to the end. People tend to say its not all that good as a social link cause your not interacting with her. It's just "She talks, and you listen" like some how social links mean you literally have to Socialize with them. But when it comes to situations like hers, sometimes it's a millions times better just to listen and be there for someone.

[@rayvenkman2087]

I like that Yumi carries the SL progression herself rather than the player doing it and Yu is more or less an observer of her Social Link.

[@kingkilla777]

Same i bought golden 4 days ago been playing nonstop I'm at naotos dungeom right now. But i really liked yumis socal social link alot it was hurt my heart to see her sad but it was really good imo

[@AdisonTeixeira]

Feels really sad the way that you have to reject her confession, because feels like you are abandoning her too. The saving grace is the confession came in rank 10, so you had maxed out anyways and get to talk to her before the end of the game.

[@TonyRedgrave]

I know, right? I liked Yumi, but not enough to romance her, so having her confess to me was heartbreaking.

[@3rdvessel199]

It's good to see that both of you still remained friends afterwards though, I really like how Yumi is even able to joke about it when you're about to leave Inaba

[@schuetz600]

Although I find Ayane’s struggle more relatable, Yumi’s link hit me much harder emotionally. I don’t think her father deserved forgiveness, but seeing her give him the peace of mind he desired in the end made me respect her so damn much. I haven’t done this s link in a while so it’s definitely gonna be the one i pick for my next playthrough.

[@HidinginPrivate]

I agree with basically all of that. I like Ayane more, Yumi's was more emotional generally. I didn't think the forgiveness was deserved, but her willingness to be mature and offer that grace is respectable.

[@rouxsauced]

There's a lot of people's moms collapsing in this game

[@HidinginPrivate]

Kanji and Yumi ig, but neither of them actually collapsed

[@yosuvarley415]

@@HidinginPrivateIsnt it stated that Yukiko's mother collasped at some point in the early game? (Iirc that's what jumpstarts Yukiko's complex about taking ownership of the inn)

[@Whatsuppbuddies]

Yumi always reminded me of one of those poor bastards you knew in highschool who got their shit kicked in by life somewhat tragically during their studies. You could tell they were in a lot of pain but you weren't close enough for them to share with you, nor mature enough to go about it properly. Also man I wish you would upload these more frequently! But seriously these videos are phenomenal.

[@gravethestampede3454]

The fact that going with either the Drama or Music club means having to leave Ayane or Yumi alone is a sad thought.

[@isapu1948]

I don't think her mom had any right to lie. He should've faced the consequences of his actions

[@sonicplays8740]

There are many feelings that go in this situation.

[@cryguy0000]

I actually kind of feel what Yumi goes through. My dad didn't abandon us, but simply indulged himself in alcohol. It was horrible living with him, watching him succumb to his vices, tear my family apart and make all of our lives miserable. By the time we left I despised him, and didn't want to see him again. The few times I did visit him he seemed to genuinely miss and care about me, he wanted me to keep seeing him but I just couldn't bring myself to. During my senior year of high school he got sick and died in a hospital, I saw his body inflated with chemicals holding him together, he was hardly able to stay conscious. That day way horrible, returning to his room where he layed cold and lifeless, I never wanted him to pass away and in the back of my head I knew I played a part in it. But not long before he died he wanted to let me know he loved me even if I didn't believe it, but how could he? I was so quiet, so reclusive, a failure who never showed him that same love, and now took his life away. It's apalling that I can still live with myself knowing this, and unlike Yumi I'm at a loss as to what to do now, stuck in stagnation.

[@RogerTears]

I'm really sorry for you i hope you're doing good now. I liked yumi cuz i could relate to her not because my dad left me or didn't care about me, but he died when i was too young i was twelve when he died which left me a feeling of abandonment like her and this feeling really affects the way you see relationships of any kind you don't want to feel that feeling of being abandoned again so when someone start getting to intimate/close to you you push the person back and raise up your walls like yumi does with the MC yelling at him and then apologizing. I can think the times that i did that myself irl and i felt guilty and blame myself to do that to the other person and i end up apologizing but its juat a matter of time for me to do that again the best way to deal with this is going to the psychologist

[@HidinginPrivate]

I'm late to my own video! This was scheduled while I was driving to my new apartment in Austin! I need help paying rent so if you enjoyed this I wanna shamelessly plug my patreon 🙇‍♂️- Hope you had a great day!

[@wadosk_NB]

I remember when I played Persona 4 for the first time, I did Drama Club and Yumi really struck me as an emotionally understandable character. Looking back through the social link while watching a friend's playthrough of the game, it really got me to appreciate Yumi more. Albeit I still can't unhear the giant 4head jokes we kept making

[@demonkiller8000]

Truly the best Code Lyoko cameo

[@LadyGrayce]

commenting to appease the algorithm, and also because this series is amazing

[@HidinginPrivate]

I appreciate that! Thank you!!

[@Distant_Dubstep]

Yumi's S Link is the one I picked first and I prefer hers over Ayane. Her S Link legitimately made me have to stop playing for a moment to stop myself from crying.

[@FeltonDood]

This series never ceases to amaze me. Your analysis is so good. Thank you for always putting in atleast 110% into this series. Every video fits into my weekly schedule too.

[@HidinginPrivate]

Thank you! Glad to have you coming in weekly as well!

[@samadactyl8724]

This was such a bittersweet kind of link. One of my favorites of a non party member. Putting the tender feelings song from p3p in the background was such a good choice really amplified the emotions

[@Nodegama]

once again a good analysis! Stories about actors are often feeling a bit "meta". Everyone is playing roles, fitting into archetypes. and the actor's talent consists of changing their role to suit the situation. A rare situation where a lack of personal connection to one's character is actually advantageous. As is seen when Yumi's later character growth goes alongside her diminishing commitment to her role in the drama club.

[@0axis771]

Yumi honestly became my favorite girl in Persona 4. It's weird because I normally feel like I connect better with characters from the main party as a love interest, who are in the story itself over the others. But none of the others really got me interested. But Yumi made me adore her and want to be there with her. Hence why she's my best girl in Persona 4. And I can understand wanting to just not be yourself and be this other fantasy person that you don't have to be. I related to her so much.

[@nathanlabrador7664]

A person of culture, I see. I consider Yumi my best girl too. She's just so fantastic.

[@yamig0d]

Every video you create makes me cry so much. Because i know I won't be able to experience p4g world again as i experienced it first time. It changed my life. It was the time when covid hit us all. And I got bored and decided to buy Persona on Steam..... My view on life changed so much i don't even know, how could i exist without it. Thank you for all the materials you make. I am not smart person. Just wanted to thank you for all the content I have to cry to. To feel the journey once again. And to be the better person myself. Your videos are like light i missed since i finished Persona 4 and 3.

[@manimifire8563]

Never done this side of the arcana before in P4G. Just beautiful, thank you.

[@HidinginPrivate]

Thanks for watching it!

[@Flaris]

I like going through a video like this. Because I only really went through Yumi's route once (and I think only on the original P4). Mostly since I just have good nostalgia for school bands so I tend to just head that way each time I've replayed P4: Golden. Yumi's arc is good. There's some great layers to it and those moments of immaturity keep her feeling believable. Since it's understandable why she's upset and it also makes sense why turning her down at the end of her social link hits so hard.

[@statz3697]

I love Yumi’s character but when I had to reject her it hurt bad.

[@HidinginPrivate]

Yeah I almost feel like she would have been easier to reject irl with how she did it than in game

[@Fenriswolfer77]

I don't usually cry over stories, but damn Yumis link hit way to close to home. It's by far my favourite Social Link in the entire Franchise and I doubt anything will ever get close to it.

[@philiphunt-bull5817]

Yumi is who I romanced on my first playthrough, so it was a shock to me when I discovered how unpopular she is.

[@HidinginPrivate]

I romance a bunch of people my first playthrough lol but yeah I was surprised, everything from roasting her looks, to the topic of her link, to her personality. Weirdly negative towards her in particular

[@nothanks7263]

@@HidinginPrivate That's sad af, I was dating Yuki on my first play through and wanted to be faithful. It fucking gutted me having to say no to Yumi.

[@ginorincon9183]

Thanks for this vid, it hit home a bit. My dad also left us since I was little, and it's been complicated to deal with the situation since. He cares about my brother and I a lot, even if he's made mistakes in the past, and like Yumi I sometimes find myself wishing to protect myself by not letting him back in, even though I know he cares a great deal. Sometimes life is really complicated, eh? I'm glad to see such situations depicted in fiction and analyzed by wonderful, understanding people like you 😊

[@Bluebatstar]

I picked the Music club over the Drama club when I played this game for the first time, and I'm gonna do that again because I never finished Ayane's link and want to see it completed in-game. However, Yumi seems to have an incredible link too, it's a shame I can't do both...

[@HidinginPrivate]

Yeah, while I love p4's forced choice in strength and sun I do hate feeling I may be missing out. Ayane is an angel, hope you finish her link this time!

[@bluskitt9025]

I honestly relate to Yumi so much and I didn't realize until this video, I never really paid attention to her social link, but I realize now that she's a really interesting and relatable character. (Also commenting to get more reach for this series, I really love it and you've done really good with scriptwriting and editing!)

[@chrismaeleon]

As per usual, absolutely fantastic analysis!☆

[@HidinginPrivate]

Thank you!

[@VXMasterson]

Thanks for this! Yumi was one of my favorite characters and now I can appreciate her more

[@HidinginPrivate]

Glad to hear that sort of thing!

[@davidbonhote2660]

Yumi Ozawa, I enjoyed her social link nevertheless in regards of her background. Hers was one of 18 social links I had fully maxed out in my 3rd playthrough of Persona 4 of 687 hours total! The other links were my entire party, Margaret, Fox, Young Mother, Nurse, Old Lady, Nanako, Dojima, and Shu in addition to the automatic social links.

[@zenronez1158]

This was an interesting video. It's almost criminal that characters like this gets buried into forgetness. Glad I got to hear this

[@stanchen6726]

When we were in the classroom, I chose to leave her. ..... JUST LIKE HER FATHER.

[@nathanlabrador7664]

Neat, a video on my favorite P4 girl! Yumi is amazing, and I love her so much. This was an amazing video, and I thank you for making it. Yumi's social link hit me really hard emotionally, her story was fantastically written and her character is really well done. Such a shame she's incredibly underrated (at least from what I've seen).

[@isakjarlestedt2001]

great analysis, and the parts with the Japanese were absolutely amazing!

[@HidinginPrivate]

Thanks! I try to give more than just a summary or my opinion. I want to bring something substantial to the table when I can find it

[@isakjarlestedt2001]

@@HidinginPrivate well you definitely did a great job doing that :-)

[@illuminoeye_gaming]

i played through yumis story twice, maxing it both times but never fully understood the depth of her arc grief and loss is something else

[@edgyone2273]

I never really knew anything about yumi. But I'm glad i watched this video man, i really like this social link a lot. I'll definitely max it out when i replay p4 again.

[@jadebayoba7073]

She could have EASLY gotten a Persona either in 3 or 5

[@statz3697]

9:12 I love the use of the ost alone here great job.

[@HidinginPrivate]

Thanks

[@kisaLuver]

I know this whole series is 2 years old, but I've been watching it for days now and I've really enjoyed it. This Social Link always resonated with me, but especially now. My own terrible bio-dad passed just a few months ago as of writing this. Unlike Yumi, I never really forgave him, and couldn't find it in me to cry when he passed, but I can empathize with her nonetheless. It's unfair for children to be expected to love and be loyal to their parents even if those aprents have abandoned or neglected them. That we're supposed to forgive and move on just because they happened to contribute 50% of your DNA. In my case, my mom's bio dad had walked out on her family when she was 14, so when my dad became negligent and cruel, she made sure to tell my brother and I that no matter what anyone else in the family said, we did not owe him forgiveness or love. Dying doesn't absolve all the bad a person did in life. It's the choice of the people they hurt whether or not to forgive them - but it's never owed.

[@horoxf8831]

Been watching most of your p4 analysis videos these past few days and it's really made me appreciate the game so much more, even though it's been at the top of my favorite games list for quite some time. I also started replaying it for the first time in years as well! Really love this video series, youve done a great job and im excited for whats to come!

[@BigSmiggles]

I honestly quite liked the storyline of Yumi for a side character it proper delved into the emotions of anger and forgiveness. Compared to so many other side characters in the game it was an excellent side social link

[@rayvenkman2087]

The Sun is consistently excellent as a Social Link in the Modern Persona series. 3’s an iconic one, 4’s underrated but well-written and 5’s fantastically written with it tying into the player’s own struggle to shake off an unfair label.

[@ItsShaz1]

Loved the video my friend! Yumi’s story is interesting.

[@HidinginPrivate]

Thanks! Yumi cool

[@serenepastel]

I didn’t get a chance to see Yumi’s link (not out of lack of interest in her story, I just liked the idea of being in a band better). It has such a fascinating look at the grieving process that you don’t see a lot of in media. I’ll need to take a deeper look at the link in the future

[@paladinpaine2066]

Thanks for doing this. I always enjoyed Yumis' path.

[@HidinginPrivate]

Ofc! I plan to give every character their due respect

[@yuki5619]

honestly, before this video i knew nothing about yumi because i was always ayane team! but great video best boy~~

[@HidinginPrivate]

Team Ayane!

[@raymondtrabulsy7294]

I finished this social link on my first playthrough. It was a real gut punch.

[@somasora7]

Yumi herself is fine, but her Social Link rubs me the wrong way a bit. I always got the feeling that she was sort of railroaded into forgiving her father. Especially the way it starts with her mother lying to her to make her see him. That’s pretty blatantly putting his wishes before Yumi’s very reasonable desire to avoid the father who abandoned her for most of her life but still wants the loving daughter treatment, and her parents are basically rewarded for that when Yumi’s mother starts suffering taking care of him, and Yumi doesn’t really have much choice but to start taking care of him herself. You as the player are even encouraged to push her towards that later on in the link, since you get more points for calling him a “kind father”, which is kinda…. Ehh, for a dude that peaced out from his family for a decade. I wish the player could’ve actually validated her initial feelings, because it is a bullshit situation. Idk, it feels like it’s very clear where the game stood on the matter and didn’t really leave much room for Yumi to ultimately feel anything other than forgiveness and do anything other than be the good, faithful daughter to a father that highkey didn’t deserve it

[@disneymaniaish]

my first love in my fisrt evere run in the game of persona 4!! i love her so much

[@sebastianbarrios7288]

I didnt hate her at all... until the very last phrases of her Rank 10, I understand how she feels, but holy crap that felt like the worst emotional manipulation one could conceive, here I am trying to be here for you in the worst day of your life and she (feeks like) she tried to guilt trip me into becoming her boyfriend? Worst than that is that you dont get to talk to her after that until you say your goodbyes, in which she passive-agressively gives me crap for "abandoning her at her worst moment". It really didnt feel like an "unbreakable bond" was formed at all, Yu couldnt be there for her during her griveing period nor try to console her, this doesnt feel at all like a relationship in which we love each other, romantically or not.

[@gregorywiederecht]

I've always had mixed feelings about this one. On the one hand, I absolutely understand her pain and her feelings of betrayal (I don't think I would have let the dad back in if I were in her place). But as an actor, it always rankled that her social link necessitated her giving up acting🤣🤣

[@HidinginPrivate]

I'm also very mixes on her forgiveness. I feel I probably wouldn't have, but at the same time grace is a large part of forgiveness, sometimes it's given, not deserved and the finality and closure of being apart of his passing might help them move on too. The actor thing I really like though. For Yumi, she got into acting and obsessed over her roles to escape from the roles she had in real life. Once she had come to terms with herself, atleast for the time, she had her most important role to finally understand, herself.

[@USChoudhari]

Thanks for the video!

[@HidinginPrivate]

Thanks for engaging!

[@erikohman2294]

I found it so hard to walk away from her in link 10, I almost skipped it. The choice to go through with it became one of the more important choices in my playthrough.

[@erikohman2294]

"Yomi" is the land of the dead, according to Mr Edogawa. I feel like there is a hint here.

[@rileyninja9733]

I have an aunt that won't forgive my grampa for the childhood he gave her. Its probably been 30 years and her response to "will you ever forgive me" is "maybe some day" I hope she doesn't wait until he's on his death bed

[@rileyninja9733]

All this even though all 5 of my aunt's siblings have already forgiven

[@cyncynshop]

....sounds tough. But it's ultimately her choice to make. Other siblings forgiving is also their choice. These two decisions are separate

[@artoriapendragonidilfitri7414]

Her Social Link was hard for me. Really good writing there. Good video, mate.

[@HidinginPrivate]

Thanks! I'm glad you liked her link

[@malyarfeyzullah749]

In all 5 of my p4 playthroughs I did yumi's s.link only onec and that was on my first playthrough . It's just so hard and sad to reject her in that way . Just say nothing get out of the room and that's it , you say absolutely nothing to her , just left her standing there . First her dad died and now we are abandoning her . I never want to go through that again .

[@robertchapman7451]

Ok no slam on the poor girl but the dad was trash it was all for his fill good not any one else his last words were a selfish man tring to look good for hell and saying HE broght something great to the world. Remembering the good times is very important but he was trash. A pious man would say " i faild you and im sorry hate me you have the right to. I was wrong you were woth my time." Truely this will mess with the girl forever.

[@ogregflamenguista4313]

"Yumi, your mom collapsed"

[@erikohman2294]

This game series is called "persona". While most links connect to this theme, Yumis does it more then most.

[@senflyer-]

Damn this one hit hard. It's interesting to me how several of the side social links have fake outs about what they are about. It reminds me of the red herrings in the main plot and how everyone is dealing with different ways of finding the truth and accepting reality as it is. Thanks for giving them a fair shot after many have brushed them off.

[@emon6490]

Hey Hiding! Hope you're doing well! Just suggesting on some P4 Arena content since they could be interesting 🤗

[@1084dreamer]

I didn't like Yumi at first, and the reason was stupid: she's not as cute as other Sun Arcana in the character drawing, and P4A did not give her an introduction. But after I finished her S Link, I walked out from her confession...The smile she had when she said goodbye was really beautiful.

[@floridianliau35]

I actually prefer this social link rather than Ayane. To me, this social link developed well.

[@isamekailmahmud9302]

feed the algorithmn

[@diegovicencio6323]

Nice

[@HidinginPrivate]

Thanks

[@VainerCactus0]

COMMENT FOR THE COMMENT GOD!

[@HidinginPrivate]

Prayers to the reply God

[@DKzCoolD2]

Oh? Oh! Hi! Great video. What song is it at 13 minutes?

[@insertjokeh3r3]

I despise this social link. 5 to 6 links of essentially trauma dumping then she guilt trip confesses when shes at a low point in her life. The romance option for this link should just be outright removed or the entire link needs changed because a relationship from this just isn't healthy at all.

[@channel45853]

I disagree, not all relationships in gaming have to be healthy, that is just limiting art.

[@jarjared3522]

I commented

[@juliawidobravely]

I never really played the Sun social links, but could you tell me: is Yumi Ozawa a first or second year?

[@SantaFeSuperChief1]

As someone who is staunchly against forgiving abusers, I really hated this social link.

[@channel45853]

The dad sucks, but would he really count as an abuser. He literally wasn't there.

[@SantaFeSuperChief1]

@@channel45853 neglect is abuse

[@heater1237]

Hey, i know the outro song is from innocent psp, but what is called, exactly?

[@gregorywiederecht]

Maya's Theme

[@HidinginPrivate]

Like the other reply said, Maya's Theme. There's a few versions but this one is the standard one you'll find if you search it up

[@_b0neman_70]

Yooooooo

[@HidinginPrivate]

Yoooooo

[@Apollo_VonAlmen]

Yumi would have been one of my favorite characters in P4, but her hair like... Weirds me out idk how to describe it

[@basedchimera5859]

Where did you get that version of heartbeat heartbreak from?

[@HidinginPrivate]

I believe it's the p4 reincarnation album version

[@johanandersson8252]

Who wants to help me with my self-esteem issues 🥹.