High-End Headphone Comparison! E3 vs Liric 2!

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Joshua Valour

Күн бұрын

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@jamesfiorucci5774 8 ай бұрын

Was that a burp at the end 😂

@ninja_boy 8 ай бұрын

Good to know there are decent closed-backs out there. I probably won't be spending this much on a headphone any time soon, but I'm glad they're out there. I have the ZMF Bokeh, which costs half the amount and is probably more in line with my preference for a less bright sound signature. I'd still consider these though. And I know it's popular to put down closed backs, but some of us don't live in quiet environments where open backs are practical, and some of us don't like IEMs either (I find them uncomfortable and can rarely get a decent fit). That leaves closed backs as the best option for passive isolation.

@soulfulfool 8 ай бұрын

me also dislike IEM's they are not healthy for ears, personally own ZMF VC so either of those could not replace it just because I like Zach tuning its my thing, Caldera closed is the only closed planar that I could trust blindly

@DefeatPete 8 ай бұрын

I'm seeing the first Empyrean drop to prices closer to what these go for! I wonder how it compares? Considering it started out quite a bit more expensive

@HiLoMusic 8 ай бұрын

The E3's are better than the first empyreans, I've owned both, spent 3 years with the Empys and moved to the E3, much much better.

@jordangriffin9458 8 ай бұрын

Now how do these compare to the Z1R? 😂

@Pictus_Invictus 6 ай бұрын

Thank you for the review! Younger people can hear higher frequencies that older people cannot. The younger have a tendency to prefer the the Dan Clark D3 to the Meze Liric II. But for the older guys is the other way around, they have a tendency to prefer the Meze Liric II.

@QuestForTacos 8 ай бұрын

Is it wrong to want both?

@yourtubisfilled7164 8 ай бұрын

Yes. As in: it is probably more virtuous to desire neither and get an equally or even better sounding and constructed headphone around the 300 ~ 500 price point because in this range you pay A LOT of premium on materials, detailing, packaging and most of all: bs marketing claims by a company simply positioning them as being 'top of the line' with a corresponding price. Also in this particular case I would steer clear of either one: Soundstage seems to be lacking on both, according to this review. I wouldn't ever want to settle for a compromise on sound stage. Let alone for $2000. And c'mon, glued ear cups for that price?

@prinzexisalowqualityytber 8 ай бұрын

@@yourtubisfilled7164damn alr man thanks

@high-captain-BaLrog 8 ай бұрын

@@yourtubisfilled7164 you criticize soundstage or "lack" thereof as a deal breaker whilst being ignorant that closed-backs lack in that department for a valid reason

@yourtubisfilled7164 8 ай бұрын

@@high-captain-BaLrog Why would you even settle for anything less than a top audio experience at this price level? If sound stage is inherently compromised due to the closed back design one wonders why these headphones even exist. To listen to a subpar sound quality in private I assume.

@QuestForTacos 8 ай бұрын

Damn, my comment was more of a joke than anything... lol. You like what you like, and everyone has a different budget. So long as your purchase feels worth it for you, who cares. For me, my edition xs are lovely and worth every penny.

@starforgedape 11 күн бұрын

Will E3 work well with the Kann Ultra?

@Nolexyn 8 ай бұрын

What’s that song at 4:10 🤯🤯

@Agent4054 8 ай бұрын

If you have an E3, do yourself a favor and pair it with a decent amp and a toner like the Schiit Loki (I'm using the Loki Mini). That will give you plenty of bass or just control in general. The E3's work REALLY well with EQ.

@DaSixSixOne 8 ай бұрын

I totally agree. Using my E3 with Schiit Loki, Mjolnir 3 as preamp and Ragnarok 2 for power and the E3 scales up wonderfully, especially in the bass region.

@Innocence44 8 ай бұрын

I dont think E3 needs more bass, it has just the right amount to me ears.

@Agent4054 8 ай бұрын

@@Innocence44 Yeah bass amount is always going to be subjective and is a historically wider variable than most other frequency ranges. I like to give it more oomf than the factory tuning, but someone like my dad (in his 70's) thought it had too much bass.

@DaSixSixOne 8 ай бұрын

@@Innocence44I can understand why some would say that. It’s not lacking but at times, I prefer a bit more and they respond well to EQ.

@themastroiannis 3 ай бұрын

fantastic thorough review! just got a pair of these E3 and feel my modest Topping headphone amp is not doing the trick of making them sing... do you (or any of your viewers) have a suggestion for an affordable powerful transparent amp (don't want the E3 presentation to be changed by the amp). my budget for the amp can't go beyond $500. thanks to anyone for the input...

@Tssukiii 3 ай бұрын

Maybe grab an used A90 if you like Topping Should be less than 350$ and definitely has enough power

@themastroiannis 3 ай бұрын

@@Tssukiii hey thanks!. had one and sold it months ago...tiny bit 'round'/smooth on the top which i thought was not neutral enough for mixing and mastering...

@Tssukiii 3 ай бұрын

@@themastroiannis I see I see I like it a lot, but it’s always preference in the end :)

@twaters3282 2 ай бұрын

take a look at schiit's stuff. I use bifrost and lyr now, but also have an asgard that I bought bundled with a different set of DCA headphones. I still use the asgard with my E3's sometimes, and it's still good. 279 no DAC, 379 ES9028 DAC card or 479 with schiit's multibit DAC card. Could also build a stack (midgard, modi, loki mini+) with some of their individual options - including eq - and still be under $500 by $1 before tax and shipping

@Tssukiii 2 ай бұрын

@@twaters3282 stupid question, but I’m from the EU: if you see online US-prices, f.e. 199$ for the HD6XX, does that mean you still pay additional taxes, so in the end it’s like 220$ or something? That would explain a lot of the price differences to me 😂

@neilsnyder7915 8 ай бұрын

I tried them both. Much preferred the E3. A much better headphone. I had the Liric1 and the cups were so small it was so annoying to have the pads and the inner portion of them constantly touching my ears. I found myself adjusting them for like 20 minutes before I found a position that didn't annoy me as much. Love the fit and comfort of the E3 andd the glass backs are just to tech cool. The Lirics are well built but the design, imho, is just blah......Oh, and they have no bleed as I use them mostly for watching TV at night and don't want to disturb my husband.

@Innocence44 8 ай бұрын

the E3's are extremely comfortable

@zzezzobike 8 ай бұрын

thank you so much , as if I was saying it, by the way I just hate Meze, heard them all and I lough at people who do public marketing via KZbin

@kevin-zd4po 3 ай бұрын

Glued pads what were they thinking?

@TheTurbanatore 8 ай бұрын

What is the name of the microphone you used to record this video?

@LucasOe 8 ай бұрын

Shure SM7B

@TheTurbanatore 8 ай бұрын

@@LucasOe does the SM7B require a amp or anything to connect to the PC?

@BoWasHere2 8 ай бұрын

Yes it requires an amp. However, Shure recently put out the SM7db which is basically the same microphone but with an onboard preamp.

@TheTurbanatore 8 ай бұрын

@@BoWasHere2 I’m thinking of getting the new SM7DB with built in pre amp, in that case, would I still need some sort of audio interface or do I just plug it into my computer?

@danieldavis3565 6 ай бұрын

Every reviewer: for a closed-back the soundstage of the E3 is great. It is one of the most open-sounding closed-backs out there. Josh: "I would prefer an open-back, if you are looking for soundstage [...] or any other closed-back for that matter". I know why I don't buy headphones based on his recommendations 🤦‍♂

@wescx Ай бұрын

I listened to the E3s at can jam Dallas yesterday - I was shocked how open they sounded. These were my biggest surprise of the show, and I’ll be buying a pair soon. Stupid me forgot to go in the Meze room and listen to the liric 2, but I loved the E3 so much I’m confident in the decision anyway.

@goldenstasgs 8 ай бұрын

This headphones serve for different segment ans was developed for different purposes. Lyric 2 is portable headphones for traveling. It’s easy to drive with dap like ibasso dx320, sp2000/3000, cayin n8. Superior passive noise isolation(I easy use it during flights). Light and comfortable for long term use. Liric 2 has warmer sound signature with distance from music stage. It created for relaxed listening outdoors. DCA E3 are headphones for home using. Low sensitivity makes it impossible to use it with daps with good dynamic. It’s heavier. Passive noice isolation even worse than with lcd xc. But it sounds more neutral wit a lot of details for home listening. Personally I never use Liric 2 at home because of Susvara but after one week of testing I refused e3 for same reason for home listening and there are no sense for outdoors. But when I’m in a hotel I never use liric2. In silent room I need portable easy to drive Susvara daughter - HE1000SE. With warm tube amp, dekoni leather pads and internal foam in cups it has reduces treble and enhanced bass without eq. With these three changes it was turned in superior sounding headphones. Josh try these three options together with He1000se and you will bless it😊

@Spliffstar5582 2 ай бұрын

Which tube amp and which dekoni pads do you prefer for the he1kse.

@squarepusher645 8 ай бұрын

No, its not wrong to own both. :) pretty much nailed it *JV*

@soulfulfool 8 ай бұрын

one must be stupid to own those 2 instead of one caldera closed that would dominate both at one go

@takuan650 8 ай бұрын

I think I'll get both sets and clamp them on together, The E3 for sound The Meze for looks.

@markaprill6501 3 ай бұрын

If you are thinking about buying expensive headphones and no amp you are making a mistake. My Meze empyrean 1 right driver went dead with little fanfare last night after 6 months….so that is something to think about…was not expecting that.edit: Meze repaired headphones for free in about a week including time for dbl pick up and return from Romania 🇷🇴 great service.

@twaters3282 2 ай бұрын

F. Hope they make it right

@markaprill6501 2 ай бұрын

@@twaters3282 I will update and tell outcome.

@markaprill6501 Ай бұрын

@ they fixed for free and quick too.

@coardtech 7 ай бұрын

I tried E3 and it was superior to any open back i tried that day :)

@gratefulot360 8 ай бұрын

Thank you, Joshua. I always enjoy your reviews. I generally buy closed-back headphones because I don't want to disturb folks around me. Can you address sound leakage on closed-back reviews?

@PCcardboard1354 5 ай бұрын

Open backs leak COMPETLEY!!! ther eis ZERO isolation, and full leakage.

@RX-rd4sc 8 ай бұрын

Compare these with sony mdr z1r

@BoWasHere2 8 ай бұрын

Completely different in concept and execution. Not only are you attempting to compare planar to dynamic, which have differing characteristics on that fact alone, but the goals of the headphones in question are very different as well. The Sony makes no attempt to be neutral and instead aims for a more pleasing tuning across genres regardless of correctness, but you have to appreciate their colored tuning to enjoy them. Both the Liric and E3 prioritize correctness from a technical standpoint with a bit of character to keep things interesting. All of them are great but it really comes down to personal preference.

@UndeaKnight 8 ай бұрын

Lovin the rock eyebrow! 😂

@soulfulfool 8 ай бұрын

Just wait for Caldera closed that will put in shame both of this and all the rest, mark my words it will be the best closed planar on the planet

@timothycrummitt3078 8 ай бұрын

Does anyone else hear something weird with the audio in this video?

@ImreImbrium 8 ай бұрын

Returned my E3 today. It was not what I thought it was sonically. VERY power hungry. Did not sound like a headphone of that price point. It was very shouty to me. I did really like the build. They felt fantastic. Just disappointed by the sound.

@WSmith-lp8jd 7 ай бұрын

I’m glad you shared this. I’m returning my Audeze LCD XC because it weighs a TON. I’m debating between the Liric 2 and E3, but fear I won’t be able to power them with A&K Kann Ultra. Thanks…..

@Spliffstar5582 2 ай бұрын

On which Chain?

@4nanke129 3 ай бұрын

Budget is subjective. So I am always make categories for myself based on 1 month salary(netto gain): -up to 10% salary it's budget friendly - 10%-25% low range - 25%-50% mid range -50%-100% high range -100-200%top range -200% + don't buy it, it's overpriced for you.

@OblivionIce 7 ай бұрын

E3 looks terrible. Liric looks and feels amazing. I own the Liric and love the looks. My only issue with the Liric is the treble over 12k is too much. EQd down it sounds really good.

@aceofspades6667 8 ай бұрын

ZMF caldera closed or bust! A open back caldera went on headfi last night for 2.2k.

@WildfireX 8 ай бұрын

Can you try get your hands on the Sierras & do a review for us with a few different amps? I personally have Modi/Asgard setup, but I was looking at trying to buy those new Sierras as the guy said he could potentially do shipping to UK The Auribus Accoustics Sierra I think is the proper name I'm basically looking at those or th Meze 109 pros

@aaronfriedman8201 8 ай бұрын

Sorry taste is personal. the DCA is much better looking than the Lyric 2. It is more modern looking.

@4nanke129 3 ай бұрын

I agree with taste is subjective. DCA are ugly AF for me. :)

@corrrect 8 ай бұрын

Iem's > closed back's.

@fooglefuss 8 ай бұрын

thanks

@datdudeinred 8 ай бұрын

100% agree & you get far superior price to performance ratio. Especially the chifi iems are just out of this world audio nirvana.

@nicholaslawley4252 8 ай бұрын

@@datdudeinredinteresting, any particular suggestions

@corrrect 8 ай бұрын

@@datdudeinred the crazy part is I just (today) returned a pair of hifiman arya organics because they're inferior to my monarch mk3. Imo iem's are only 2nd to speakers.

@datdudeinred 8 ай бұрын

@@nicholaslawley4252 depends on budget i have tried only 5 yet & definitely yanyin canon 2 is the best all rounder(not because it's most expensive i ever bought).