High guardian spice characters are OP

[@guardianHQ]

Just to be clear i don’t actually think rose could beat goku. She would get blitzed and oneshot the link to parsleys calc in the description isn't working for some reason so i'll link it here vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:Nullflowerblush/Parsley_shatters_a_boulder_(High_Guardian_Spice)

[@IronKore]

I can accept her beating Goku, coz even in a reality Goku would exist she wouldn’t be logically quantifiable like her show

[@lampy1801]

​@@IronKore tbf the writers could just ignore everything and make her beat goku anyway LOL

[@maxmercurythemm827]

@@lampy1801 If the writers of this shitshow would write the fight, Goku would conveniently forget anything he can do outside of shooting puffballs (and even then they probably wouldn't even have him do that) and Rosemary would beat him handy because sword, like he's Olive. If anyone competent would write this fight, Goku beats her; the only real question is how hard he has to push himself.

[@Eldoofus]

she would beat teen goku tho

[@meias.]

In an actual fight, I'm sure she couldn't but Goku is a really kind person so he'd probably not even try to fight her unless really necessary (but that's not really how this works lol)

[@ohohothisrocks]

not only were the dragons able to create stars like that, they're very hyper-intelligent. The healing water is only a reactive agent that accelerates cell growth. In this short period of time, the dragon is able to learn how to fly, speak, comprehend language, understand empathy, learn a new language, even create the stars...all by himself in a matter of minutes

[@guardianHQ]

Insane levels of learning speed for sure

[@undeadsomulo776]

I’m standing by the fact they ripped that off from Dragon Heart. They took and otherwise emotional moment and ending and made it fucking stupid.

[@coolirew_x5375]

so, if thats the standard for all dragons in this universe, then what about the one sage fucking murdered with New Magic?

[@saphirawinters7028]

@@undeadsomulo776 That's one of my favorite movies and where I got the idea to name my future son Draco from. Yeah I know the effects are out dated and bad by today's standard but it's still one of my favorite movies.

[@agnesleuenberger3713]

@@coolirew_x5375 I suppose it might be because it wasn't a dragon but a sea serpent or something. That or it was indeed a dragon but it became a star later because... er... lag, maybe?

[@BehuraStudio]

Oh yeah I forgot to mention how stupidly durable Rose is, like she literally jumped off a building (that was on top of a hill) and was completely OK, which I'm pretty sure most people would have their legs brokenbfrom that. Plus when Olive literally stabbed Rose's face with a spear it just gave her a bruise. Although Rose is still susceptible to stabbings and slicing like that one time she got injured in the cave. Which further proves the fact that Rose is the most dangerous hazard to herself given her unbreakable sword and her massive stupidity

[@azzburgersaf1973]

And the fact that she took a magic blast from Mandrake when he was disguised as Caraway right to her chest, but a crab monster cut her. Does she and the other characters all have magic resistance, or its simply the Plot Armor protecting them?

[@SweetOrangeGirl]

Thyme was also hit in the torso by Olive’s staff (the bottom point), but somehow made it out alive. What makes it even worse is that she had nothing to cover it (it was exposed). That plot armor must be REALLY tough.

[@jordanhansen5934]

@@SweetOrangeGirl Or at least thick enough to sink a battleship

[@SweetOrangeGirl]

@@jordanhansen5934 Most definitely.

[@hackidreemurr]

She did water MLG

[@schwarzerritter5724]

9:54 I know this is a joke episode, but I believe Sage just agreed with Rosemary, because explaining science to her is impossible.

[@zjungta]

Rosemary: Is science a food?

[@schwarzerritter5724]

Sage: No Rosemary, science is not a food... engineering is not a food either.

[@Cat.skskssk]

She sounds so monotone its like shes thinking "Maybe if I just agree she'll stop talking to me"

[@ckinggaming5bucketmadness766]

I have to agree with that

[@KeitaroHirochi]

Yeah, this clearly sounds like Sage joking, or any way, not meaning it, she sounds like a parent telling a tall tale to a child because explaining the real thing would be too long and fall on deaf ears.

[@d.j.mulcahy1657]

This is why most writers plan out their stories and are aware of how strong or weak their characters are. Unfortunately, the writers of HGS aren’t most writers.

[@yez9475]

Yes exactly, its like the writers of HGS rushed to make it then called it a day

[@LargeAmoeba]

But they had no budget! We have to be fair. All the writing problems are simply because they couldn't afford some pens and a pad of paper.

[@clorgborg]

A web series got less budget, but is still better than HGS will ever be *cough* Epithet Erased

[@sylbiee]

@@LargeAmoeba budget and competence are two very different things actually

[@LargeAmoeba]

@@sylbiee I'm aware. Hence my sarcasm. The the fact the they blamed the poor writing on a low budget is completely nonsensical. Anyone with basic writing skill and a bar napkin can do better.

[@PlanetZoidstar]

The strongest thing in HGS....Is the rock that cracked the pommel of Flowering Thorn. The immutable, solar system level sword..Got its immutable pommel cracked by that rock.

[@guardianHQ]

Rocks solo fiction no difficulty

[@PlanetZoidstar]

@@guardianHQ The only contender is the training dummy that no-sold Flowering Thorn's slashes. Sure Aster is pathetic, but he was hitting it hard enough to make it wobble. Anything struck by Flowering Thorn hard enough to disturb its equilibrium is GOING to get cut, no matter whose swinging it...Unless you're that training dummy.

[@guardianHQ]

@@PlanetZoidstar perhaps aster being a jobber negated the power of the sword

[@kylmiii]

Dwayne Johnson is too powerful

[@LordIsrafel]

@@PlanetZoidstar Don't forget that very same sword would, a few episodes later, slay a dragon. One severely weakened by Sage's spell (when her terrasphere goes out of control, meaning she fatally wounded a dragon BY ACCIDENT), but nonetheless the sword was able to pierce a dragon's hide while in the hands and strength of a child.

[@amirahmed7230]

As a big, Powerscaling fan, this has been very fun to watch through all the videos you’ve made.

[@BehuraStudio]

Lmao! I snorted a lot at how you pointed out how OP the old ladies and dragons are and how some one off remarks about them from character's dialogues just casually reveal them as having such immense cosmic powers that make the entire macrocosm shake in fear is hilarious. Also the part where they say how the Trio Ladies literally tore a hole in reality is kinda unnecessary but it also reduces any potential tension too, like if they ever discover the bad guy trio there's no need to be worried because they can easily warp space and time and erase them from existence. And if the bad guys are just as powerful then it's literally just going to be a back and forth abstract fight beyond human imagination (which sounds cool, but I doubt this show could ever really make it work that well). And when these reality warping characters play such major physical roles in the story it might also undermine the main characters and the scaling cuz it goes from Building Buster to potentially an Inter-universal Powerhouse, which I think can work, but you gotta have.... CONTROL! I feel like the writers mentioned how the Trio tore a hole in reality simply to get some attention and be like "look guys, these old ladies are REALLY powerful! They literally tore a hole in the fabric of reality!" But that carries it's problems if they're super mega ultra powerful with zero effort. Any writer can literally make their characters be SuperNova level, Universe busting Demi Gods, but a really powerful character who has Limits is usually the better move. Look at Gandalf, he's literally an immensely potent angelic being but in LOTR and the Hobbit he's limited to a mortal body. Not only does it help keep Some tension (cuz he can still die and all that) but when he fights off the Balrog it makes sense because he's still pretty damn powerful regardless of his body (even then, the battle still took it's toll on him). But it's that perfect balance. Also the fact that Sauron IS stronger than Gandalf does show again, that Gandalf has his limits, he isn't objectively the most powerful and he can actually lose a fight. As far as we know the Trio has no weaknesses because they're immortal beings who can casually mess with Space-Time. Going back to the "Tearing a hole in reality stuff" it's not so much the fact they did it, but more on how it's executed and used. They made it sound like it was a piece of cake to do. :Holy crap what a random HGS related rant I just made lmao. Also man I got a good laugh when you pointed out how the star's light instantly appeared from whatever region of deep space and how fast that Light is

[@azzburgersaf1973]

I agree. That's the issue when you make a character too OP. The OP characters will have to be conveniently away from the problems, or they fight other OP characters.

[@rashan141]

I mean, despite not believing in powerscaling with common sense, what's stopping the Triumvirate from also being that OP? Like, to say only these three women can command such power seems like such a weird thing to do when the bad guys need to be as much of if not MORE of a threat.

[@pigeonleader]

Holy shit either the light from the stars reached earth super fast or the stars are still within the atmosphere and are obviously smaller, either way it's still stupid

[@cheyenne6600]

I'm pretty sure you spent more time on these characters than the writers

[@guardianHQ]

At this point that might be true

[@JaxontheOkay]

the worst part of all this is that so many of these oddities from the show like this could be played off as really cool were it intentional. like, something with the power to travel thousands of light years in mere milliseconds being mentioned and brushed off so casually could be awesome. like that type of power is just so accepted in their universe. again if it was intentional

[@jonsku6662]

I know this is a weird counter argument on the dragon part, but.. are we sure stars in the HGS universe are actually stars? Like for reference, in The Elder Scrolls universe (you know, Skyrim and all that), stars in the sky are not the same celestial bodies like the sun, but holes to a different realm, from which magic comes from Unless there is dialogue in HGS to state it, stars in that universe may not be suns light-years away, but mere dots on a canvas that makes up the sky (Then again, hard to excuse space not working the same in the show unless it's specified, by that point we can't even tell if their world is a planet or flat)

[@guardianHQ]

Thats an excellent point actually, personally i believe its fine to use real life as a basis for things so long as the show itself doesn’t actively contradict the real world in that way. Most shows take things from real life but it really depends on the media

[@jonsku6662]

@@guardianHQ Well, real world logic would be the baseline for a reason, any vastly notable differences would be brought up in some way as part of worldbuilding ... But, this is HGS tho, they forgot to explain the world besides a few things about magic (& even those things rather vaguely)

[@MrAuthor3DS]

Xenoblade has something similar to this, too. All the stars above Bionis and Mechonis? They're actually just balls of ether hanging close by in the sky. That world is literally just an isolated chunk of Earth with no real outer space around it.

[@princelamar1735]

Here's the thing. When power scaling fiction, our conclusions are based on what we currently know about what the story is conveying. For example, if we assume that what a character destroyed is a rock, than we would assume that the fictional rock is as durable what are real life knowledge knows about a rock's durability in order to scale that character. So the fictional object doesn't have to be stated to be similar to it's real life counterpart to scale it, because we are going by what we know of the real life version of that object (so unless stated otherwise, we assume those stars are real life stars, it doesn't have to be stated to be like stars, because scaling is based on using real life knowledge to understand fiction).

[@hessexm8065]

their world ain't flat lyngarth is built on a hill right? then again the scenes in the town don't look their built on a hill. the can't even get the fucking geometry of the main lovation right WOW

[@PauloJrchannel]

"I wanted you to remember, Goku... in all the years to come... in your most private moments... I want you to remember what it means to be human... I want you to remember my hand at your throat... I want you to remember the one man who beat you."-Professor Caraway.

[@jomalabanan5266]

Knowing the writers. They write this show without even considering any science application. Because “Magic” and “PLOT”

[@ishvalda_]

Something I really hate about this show is that despite it being called high gaurdian spice all of the main characters are named after HERBS

[@greywolf4852]

On God they're named after herbs I even saw a herb named Sage in my cabinet.........

[@greywolf4852]

It's literally has Spice in the name but then all the characters are herbs

[@flamethrowerfireteam]

...are spices not just dried herbs?

[@MeemahSN]

@@flamethrowerfireteam They're different parts of the plant.

[@flamethrowerfireteam]

@@MeemahSN so like. once they're in a cupboard, herbs are leaves..and spices everything else from a plant??

[@darkfrost-star6317]

Also tbh the fact that even the students are already *this* OP is such a missed opportunity for any kind of power creep going on in their arcs...

[@jk2782]

The infinite hallway could be a looping hallway of so far, that way you only need x distance and portal magic. It's not a rare magical trap, that's for sure.

[@ferrishthefish]

The dragon just made portals into deep space and pooped the stars into the portals. No massive acceleration required, just a pterosphere and a wrist-flick.

[@schuylergeery-zink1923]

:0

[@noogieboyskullbustah7799]

I think that universe is like the Elder Scrolls in the matter of stars. Because there the universe is really small, at least the material part. And the stars there are literally holes in the veil that separates the supernatural realm where magic comes from, even the sun is like that. That makes the stars not that far away, a firmament like those you can find in mythologies. But I think now I'm giving to much credit to the writters of High Guardian Spice for this.

[@djcreepypastaclown6555]

Can I say these ties are pretty super or something to be fear but to be honest I'm not worried they may be strong but they have low intelligence

[@guardianHQ]

Considering how dumb they are with their magic use I’d have to agree with you there

[@djcreepypastaclown6555]

@@guardianHQ hey thanks

[@thoroughlucidstream5146]

@@guardianHQ Put down. The stick.

[@guardianHQ]

@@thoroughlucidstream5146 you want the talking stick? *ninja pose* Come and get it

[@jm7781]

The power level is high but the QI level is low. I think the only explanation to how these people can build houses is "magic".

[@realdragon]

It could be argued that light have infinite speed but creating *5 stars* that will be there for few billion years at least, each generating so much energy 1 second of total energy could give power on whole Earth for probably like 1000 years is something else. And the dragon can be even stronger since it didn't have much time to live

[@GeorgeMonet]

But those are not stars. They were just satellites. Light does not have infinite speed. If it had infinite speed it would have infinite energy. If it had infinite energy we would all have be destroyed instantly.

[@yamiakko4257]

This show has no idea how logic works.

[@zjungta]

Rosemary: Is logic a food?

[@yamiakko4257]

If you mean Nature’s Logic, then yes.

[@radicalpollution4270]

If logic was a food, Rosemary should eat it to get some intelligence to make a better plot.

[@alicianelson1252]

Overpowered characters is already a tightrope accidental OP characters is a kiss of death for a story

[@PhantomAce999]

They are still dumber than a wall, i mean you can easily break a diamon with a hammer, the "hardness" is just the scratch resistance.

[@ExtremeWreck]

ChaCha from Akazukin ChaCha: *Am I a joke to you girls?* Seriously though, we never see ChaCha get truly angry in the manga nor anime, so if the Beware the Nice Ones trope is to be followed here, then ChaCha would certainly obliterate these characters from existence easily.

[@darkfrost-star6317]

TBH akazukin chacha in general is just a better alternative to HGS as a magical girl school show let's be real-

[@ExtremeWreck]

@@darkfrost-star6317 Yeah, it truly is. Thank humanity the owners of that classic anime haven't taken down any of the uploads yet. We gotta keep the episodes & uploads circulating!

[@dragowolfraven3806]

What is there a school at all if the students are this OP already? I think the writers just made crap up as they went along. It would explain a lot.😂

[@JaftenLKA]

Okay so first off, I enjoyed the hell out of this video, very entertaining. Second off, as a VSBW user... hell no 4-A would not be accepted on the wiki based on such weak stand-alone evidence, lmfao. Especially since outside of that one sus feat the best they have is some tier 9 and MYABE tier 8 stuff. The tier 8 stuff is itself iffy already-making a shield the size of a large building doesn't necessarily mean that it can withstand tier 8 attacks. EDIT: Also, the infinite hallway would only get High 3-A if there was an _explicit_ mention of it containing literally infinite space, more than simply saying it's an "infinite hallway". As such, all we have is the name, which isn't enough to justify such a high rating, especially when it could just be some clever spatial-looping hax instead (which is _quite literally_ infinitely more reasonable an assumption than claiming it contains infinite space without evidence). Still, very entertaining video.

[@iamnotuta2658]

dragons in high guardian spice was the origin of the dragon balls.

[@Miksy51]

I love this calculation you made!

[@NapaCat]

9:10 Also those stars are visible to the eye without a telescope, not red dwarfs, LARGER STARS. Red dwarfs are the most common type of star, and already 0.6/0.8 stellar masses. Visible ones are _much_ more massive.

[@guardianHQ]

That’s a good point

[@Bopperann]

I don't care if the gem on the sword broke in the same place as it did before. It was repaired by magic. There is no excuse as to why there would be any evidence it broke before except cheap magic- which makes no sense as New Magic is limitless. Random rocks should not be able to break gems- gems are not glass. I hate it so much.

[@MrAuthor3DS]

Honestly, with everything the show has demonstrated, I hesitate to believe that New Magic is truly as limitless as Sage claims. After all, we saw a terrasphere - one of Redbud's - run out of energy while in use. Sounds like that "juice" is a COST. Actions speak louder than words, after all. But of course, what can we expect from a girl who claims she and Rosemary were friends "for, like, ever" when she had spent some portion of her life in Witch Country? And that's likely not the only exaggeration she's made.

[@siblingstrytoplaynice-comm9029]

The infinite hallway could also just be a large looping hallway, where you reach a certain point and get teleported to another section of the hallway unknowingly, and by placing another point in the hallway past the entrance, then escape is impossible by practical means.

[@tinycrimester]

....wait. i just realized the core group is called "parsley, sage, rosemary and thyme"???? .....................sacrilege.

[@astro_infinite8285]

you deserve so many more followers this is an outrage

[@hhgff778]

Bruh, that dragon could probably solo the OPM vesrse, the Monsterverse, The Boys verse, and all how bunch of others, Holy shit that's insane.

[@mauricioisai1851]

OHH MY GOD thank you dude Seriously I know that high garden spice gets a bad reputation (cuz it’s bad) but like it’s been killing me not knowing how powerful they are so thank you man seriously you just saved me from getting more hours on my sleep dude 😅😅

[@nicholasmartin534]

I was not expecting such an in depth analysis, nor was I expecting things in the HGS Universe to be so powerful, but DANG! This video was amazing.

[@noelcrist7109]

Dragon ball powerscaler here. Taking the dragon scaling at face value it wouldn’t do much to Cell. At face value it would be able to equal Cell in power. That all it has. Cell out classes in every category besides that. From hax, experience, and technique. Now the reality The dragon pretty much exploded and created 5 star far out in space. We have zero idea if this can be concentrated or even directed at a enemy close to the dragon. If it could just spawned 5 stars right on top of Cell then Cell would live. 5 stars by itself is not a feat. First form frezia when he was introduced would most likely survive. Stars produce a lot of heat but that’s pretty much it. No where near the same as the power to destroy a star. It would need to produce power to destroy and not create. We’ve not been shown that nor has it been implied.

[@PauloJrchannel]

To be fair, if we were to scale the HGS characters to the speed of the dragon's magic (which is fair, since they could react to the magic as it moved through the sky, and they can also dodge magic blasts from Sage, who scales to the dragons since she killed a dragon in the mermaid episode), they would be billions of times faster than light, so they'd kind of blitz the shit out of Cell. Although even then, Rosemary with her sword alone wouldn't be able to stop Cell from regenerating, so she'd just keep swinging her sword like an idiot until she runs out of stamina, then she'd be too tired to dodge and Cell could wreck her. I think a better HGS character to beat Cell would be a Terrasphere user, so they could turn Cell into a Groag or something like that.

[@mauricioisai1851]

Easily subscribed hope this makes your day man or night idk

[@Kyuushi94]

This is my favorite power-scaling video.

[@Mothlord03]

TIL about the Versus Wiki. I may use it to see how powerful my characters are, or use it for something valuable

[@guardianHQ]

Its got some good info. They do have some weird scaling on there sometimes though and they tend to downplay characters so remember to fact check when using their site

[@PauloJrchannel]

A bunch of people hate on that website, but I honestly don't think they're that bad as a starting basis for research, as long as you also do you own research on top of it to fact check.

[@idkwhatimdoing8995]

TO SHOW YOU THE STRENGTH OF FLEX TAPE I SAWED THIS GIRL IN HALF!

[@pedronunesmoreira5279]

considering that the stars that this dragon created are 2 light years from Earth, which in this case is the distance from the solar system to the nearest star, and considering that this was all done in 1 second, the speed of this dragon's magic should be approximately 18 trillion km/s

[@ShadowWolfRising]

"Sword's Durability is Solar System Level." That's more powerful than a Force-Imbued Blade, one of which if I recall correctly (Which Isn't always, have I bad memory.) Was able to survive a Supernova.

[@darkfrost-star6317]

If this show got any kind of professional rewrite the characters would also need to be severely nerfed just to make the story and world function properly. 😑

[@guardianHQ]

To be fair you can make shows with op characters work so long as you know how to write around that factor. This show doesn’t have very good unfortunately

[@darkfrost-star6317]

@@guardianHQ I suppose I feel like it’s kind of unrealistic that even the first year students are already this OP as well tho. I guess I can kinda forgive the mentors for being OP since they’re supposed to be well trained professionals, the students however are JUST getting into professional combat and sorcery. IMO this is also a missed opportunity to have some sort of power creep going on in the students’ arcs as well. Where they would start off as not really impressive in terms of power but through vigorous training, we get to see them rise to higher and higher levels in terms of strength and capability. It would’ve been more satisfying to see, rather than them already being Goku levels of OP even though they’re literally first years! HGS has a bad sense of set up and pay off in general tho, so I’m not surprised that they missed the opportunity for a significant power creep arc involving their student characters...

[@realdragon]

I've been watching Overlord where protagonist is OP. The difference is not everybody in the world is OP, in fact even the strongest humans stand no chance. But he can't do everything, casting time and resources are a thing as well as cooldown

[@MrAuthor3DS]

I've already got a rewrite idea where the Cave of Vinca episode isn't a test on whether or not students get to stay, but a survey of the healing water springs with Dretch and Hakone directly supervising. (The girls still get separated and trapped, but the teachers are the ones to free them from the cave-in.)

[@hannahwishon9958]

@@realdragon This! Syndrome said it best, "when everyone's super, no one will be."

[@TuesdaysArt]

Damn it, now I have to do calculations on my own characters to make sure they aren't too overpowered but I don't know anything about physics.

[@KikiCatMeow]

You should be fine with a bit of common sense tbh. Like, unless you want your characters to be subsonic, don’t have them dodging machine gun fire with ease, yk? Most of it doesn’t need a lot of calculations or anything

[@TuesdaysArt]

@@KikiCatMeow Luckily, my main magical setting doesn't have firearms. They have certain wands that are regulated like firearms, but there's no need for bullets there.

[@PauloJrchannel]

As long as you don't make it too obvious, nobody would really care that much.

[@TuesdaysArt]

@@PauloJrchannel I'm not 100% sure if I have a good mental gage of what is obvious? My magic system works in a way that spell-casting takes physical energy and it takes a lot of power + skill to pull off the more impactful/impressive spells. I'm mainly concerned about my characters not taking enough damage relative to how bad they've been hit. This particular society is heavily centered around dueling, with some children undergoing intensive training at a young age to build skill/endurance (it used to be much harsher in the older generations, but parents stop pushing their children as hard because child abuse is bad-they still try to give them rigorous training but they would stop before they beat their children into exhaustion). Still, I'm not sure if intensive training would be enough to allow someone to crash through walls without severe damage. I'm also walking a tight line between cartoon logic and realism-it's a world of magical ducks so it's already not that realistic, but it isn't completely silly and whimsical either. Lots of generational trauma and a horribly backwards society.

[@PauloJrchannel]

@@TuesdaysArt By "obvious" I mean the characters straight up saying "I can blow up two billion three hundred and twenty seven million two hundred thousand universes with my pinky finger", or ridiculous shit like that. If it is just something like a really big explosion, or creating a storm, or moving a heavy object at high speeds, or having a pocket dimension, and the result happens to be really high, nobody really cares, as long as it makes sense in the story.

[@Bopperann]

Grats on your 1k subs. You deserve more.

[@loke6664]

I am not convinced the Triad made the infinite hallway though, it could have been there before and the reason for them building the academy there or it could honestly just be an illusion to scare students (they seems like people who would do something like that). Sure, they could have built it but it could also be some remnant from the creation of the world by the Gods or whatever, we don't really have much of a backstory in the show. In whatever case, the characters certainly are powerful but I think One punch man could take them all out if he tried to.

[@sollumi3014]

actually ill bet on illussion tbh. you know how the mirror labirynth feels like youre walking infinitely and how fully mirrored room feels much bigger than it is? infinite hallway definitely sound more like an illussion or simple teleports (which also are confirmed to be in the universe)

[@loke6664]

@@sollumi3014 That is certainly a possibility. Another is that Raye (or whoever wrote it in) just stole thing from Roger Zelazny's Amber books. In either case I am pretty sure they just inserted the whole thing to make the world seem more mysterious, not to actually be an important part of the world building. It isn't the only thing in the show that seemed to have been inserted without much thought either, the entire magic system is like that, what kind of magic school would leave a spell book with an immortality spell so a first year student could find it her first week? So I think instead of putting the time in to make the world make sense, they just inserted things and we can try to analyze it and find order in the chaos but I don't think there really is any order in there. Why do a school that have first year students that easily can take out a fire need to call the fire department? Heck, why does a world where magic is so common in even need a none magical fire department in the first place? 3 water mages (old magic or new magic) could have done the same work as a large bunch firemen. That also makes me wonder about the upper classes... We don't really see any 2nd or 3rd year students at all, does it just take a single year to be a guardian, do they only start a new class after the last have graduated or what? Or is there other schools you move to after the first year? I don't think they have considered that either, a few students ready for graduation would have totally stopped the main cast from being the ones saving everyone in the last episode, there is no way that last year students wouldn't be a lot better and even if they are all hopeless we would at least seen them, the villains should have been forced to use some smart plan to keep them away if they existed. Nah, the entire show kinda feel like only the main characters matters and the rest of the people are just npcs that doesn't even exist when the main characters aren't on screen. World building seem replaced with random cool things inserted without rhyme or reason.

[@Set666Abominae]

I love how when Rosemary tanks Mandrake’s attack, then falls from quite some altitude onto the roof, the show is then concerned with her falling off the much smaller school building. Like, that should be absolutely *nothing* compared to what she just took? Yeah, I guess you could say it would be a straw that breaks the camel’s back, but she’s not even scratched from the first attack!

[@enderkahn1018]

As far as I know about the sword, the pommel of it did break at some point due to Rose falling. Not sure if the immutability is just for the blade but if that be the case then sure.

[@adamtuah721]

the dragon can legit explode into stars wh- who came up with this idea?

[@hackidreemurr]

I love your HGS videos so much!! I haven't watched the series yet, but I don't mind spoiler honestly, bc the show is so messed up anyways. However, I'm considering watching it after exam phase bc I'm working on an swap AU ✨✨ And yeah, for that I need to know what's going on in the show

[@corypowercat7277]

I think they took inspiration from Dragonheart when it came to the dragon.

[@cyberdemonic260]

Virgin Flowering Thorn: can theoretically cut down solar system powered dragons Chad Galaxy sword from Regular Show: As large as a whole galaxy and is powerful enough to break the most powerful and unbreakable item ever known, a legally binding contract

[@DatAlien]

Its a very short bow and she barely pulls those arrows back at at all, so the speed would be probably far lower. Also are stars even like ours or maybe just holes in some sphere?

[@3_LollipopOfTheMoldiKind]

3:22 You cannot convince me that Sage didn't get decapitated or at bare minimum suffer from constant severe black outs with a side order of amnesia and/or dementia until she died within the next few months. That shit landed directly onto her freaking face. Sage is clearly dead.

[@yurazah]

the whole immutable sword thing is a no limits fallacy, the classic example being: in zelda characters say only the master sword can hurt ganon, but we all know if he were to fight someone like goku, he would take damage...

[@guardianHQ]

How is it a no limits fallacy if i said it would only be “immutable” to the strongest thing we’ve seen in verse? (Aka the dragons)

[@yurazah]

@@guardianHQ well, I would say you cant believe everything the characters say, if its that tough why is it getting repelled by other weapons. we don't actually see the dragons get cut by it, not to mention we dont know if the dragons themselves can output star level power or if they just generate it when they die, it makes as much sense as superman getting his power from the sun but somehow he has far greater power output then the sun itself. its also assumed a mage from the show enchanted it, i assume the enchantment is only as good as the caster. (ether way I'm putting far to much thought into this, way more then the creators did anyway)

[@guardianHQ]

@@yurazah if you think the statement from thyme is inaccurate thats fine but I don’t see how its a NLF

[@yurazah]

@@guardianHQ I said that causes you implied goku couldn't break it, upon review you said cell saga goku, (but i still think its debatable)

[@PauloJrchannel]

Didn't they kill an underwater dragon in the other episode? Assuming it is as strong as the dragon who made the stars (which is not too far fetched, since they're both dragons), the main group would scale to Solar System level regardless, since they wrecked that thing and left it to bleed to death.

[@stevefilms1997]

The dragons would not have solar system level durability Let’s imagine for half a second even though it’s not true this wasn’t just idiocy by the writers If we look at the healing water it accelerates healing not aging this is why rosemary is not elderly This means the dragon egg must have been permanently dormant a condition from which the well cured it, so we can move the accountability for the dragons disintegration and rapid aging to that’s just how dragons are meaning their massive levels of energy cannot be contained by their own bodies

[@hackidreemurr]

Seriously, the characters are so overpowered. Why didn't the Avengers open a portal and call THEM to defeat Thanos in Endgame? 🤔 I'm sure Thanos will be gone, reduced to atoms when fighting against characters THAT powerful. Also the characters defy the laws of physics so much that I don't feel bad for not studying enough for physics anymore

[@redclover8387]

i hope someone on the creative team is watching this and realizing how crazy they made this world. im sure u heard about season 2?

[@guardianHQ]

Its not getting a season 2 that was a meme

[@redclover8387]

@@guardianHQ oh thank god xD

[@skootmeister3994]

*Reads the thumbnail* That’s not the right question. You should be asking “can she beat Bobobo?”

[@schuylergeery-zink1923]

Can she beat One Punch Man?

[@skootmeister3994]

@@schuylergeery-zink1923Maybe… *sniff* maybe.

[@udontneedtoremember4840]

What episode did Snapdragon and Amaryllis paint each other's nails?

[@guardianHQ]

Episode 11

[@sarahfarnsworth1019]

I don't hate high guardian spice because I don't intend to watch it, and I didn't know what was going on until after everyone else watched it, and now I get to be entertained by the videos and critiques people make. I imagine either watching two episodes and then turning it off without knowing why, or bandwagoning and being like "omg I watched all of it," then just forgetting about it. For some reason though, even when shows are supposed to be good, and not bad like high guardian spice, I have a hard time appreciating them. Maybe 2d animation seems so time consuming and wild to me that I can appreciate it even when it's bad, but if it's praised on being really good, it goes over my head which is frustrating.

[@IanHamby]

My thought on your stars analysis. It's a fantasy world. Have there ever been any space scenes? How do we know stars are some sort of fixed lights on some shell encircling the world? I haven't actually seen the show, just listened to people like you talk about it.

[@IanHamby]

But, I might be putting more thought into worldbuilding than the actual creators did.

[@eclipsewaves]

@@IanHamby You are putting more thoughts than the actual show writers. I'm telling you that.

[@rosemary2363]

Is my sword a food

[@theuncalledfor]

Alternative possibility: High Guardian Spice takes place on a flat world with a firmament, or a geocentric world with a spherical sky-wall (basically just a firmament but spherical). EDIT: It occurs to me that you are joking.

[@Lorens4444]

10:00 That's only "confirmed" stars that we can observe individually. We estimate about 1-2 trillion galaxies in the Observable Universe. XD

[@Worn_Guide]

9:54 I honestly thought she was being sarcastic here.

[@jeromefournier9667]

Ok sorry but assuming that stars in a fantasy universe are like IRL stars is a bit silly, it's like saying Luna is more powerful than Celestia because she controles billions of suns when it's obvious Stars and Suns are not the same thing as IRL. but then at the same time something as badly made as HGS, I have my doubt about the writters ability to set up/think about/comprehend such a distinction. I would still give them the benefice of the doubt and assume this is a celestial sphere or the stars are just small energy constructs that are close to the planet unless they contradict that.

[@_vlpin]

Hm, isn't dragons dying = producing stars part of the mythos???

[@stevefilms1997]

The dragons would not have solar system level durability allow me to explain Let’s imagine for half a second ,even though it’s not true that this wasn’t just idiocy by the writers If we look at the healing water it accelerates healing not aging this is why rosemary is not elderly This means the dragon egg must have been permanently dormant a condition from which the well cured it, so we can move the accountability for the dragons disintegration and rapid aging to that’s just how dragons are meaning their massive levels of energy cannot be contained by their own bodies

[@deepseastonecore3017]

If you believe in yourself and with a tiny pinch of magic, all your dreams can come true

[@lunaitor-uq9hz]

Even WITHOUT the inmutable statement, didn't Rosemary literally KILL a dragon once? It was weakened, iirc, but still, the fact she killed it at all is crazy And since a lot of characters are cut with that sword and don't instantly die, doesn't that technically mean they're ALL Solar System? This is the fun of powerscaling, everyone, the goofier it is, the better

[@pokeballblaze9835]

Perfect cell is solar system level plus but you forgot super perfect cell which is even stronger

[@Oznerock]

5 stars is much beyond solar system level - a star is already 99% of it's solar system anyways.

[@pancakiy7531]

I'm so happy u stumbled across this account

[@Jw87563]

This was a fun shitpost episode.

[@theadministrator.6632]

It’s strange to look at a video talking about characters that are solar system to universal being powerful after seeing high level dc, marvel, mythological, lovecraften and scp characters. Also the verses battle wiki isn’t the greatest site for anything vs related

[@matsurichan6471]

Not going to lie I was really hoping for a scene where rose n her mom actually do link up again on different ends and have to fight. Almost on some Sasuke v itachi type energy . Although we all know which is best, it'd still be interesting 🤔

[@kurbis0729]

I’m pretty sure Sage is lying about the dragon star thing. Or, like, at minimum doesn’t know. To me it sounds like she’s just trying to get the main character to shut up lol

[@badoomching]

YESSSS SPILLINGTHEMILK

[@atomwolf6774]

if every one dragon can make up to 5 stars that means that there were at least sixteen million eight hundred thousand dragons in this universe

[@sollumi3014]

so i know this video is just for fun and a joke but sage was clearly joking and probably sarcastic in that last scene, it was like "Yeah rosemary dragons definiteeely create stars" the tone and use of word definitely in that context just points to it not really being truth

[@cartooncritique6625]

So basically this is your typical "Mary Sue" fantasy where the characters are just absurdly powerful to nonsensical degrees? 10:32 A similar question could be asked of the Pokemon universe...seriously how are there any humans at all with the creatures they have in that world? :/

[@atomwolf6774]

i may hate to say this... but i like the "infinite" hallway idea hear my out... because im going to tell you MY version of it like... maybe this version of the hallway isnt really infinite... it just seems that way but its just a very long portal... maybe on the inside you are actually going super slow... but on the outside it looks and feels infinite... maybe they did it so worshippers can visit the gods for sacrifices... idk i just wanted to take this idea and actually use it... unlike what HGS did...

[@blainetate743]

I subscribed. Give me my sword.

[@vandalsavage6743]

What's up with the pink one's hair though

[@MrAuthor3DS]

Oh! Don't forget how the queen traber was able to deal a mortal gash to Rosemary while desperately flailing - yet when Mandrake launches his magic knives right at Rosemary, they don't scratch her, so much as they smack her back (as if it was a blunt hit). Now the show never mentioned any protective force that anyone can project around their bodies. Therefore, we have to assume that Mandrake's attacks are far weaker than a mutated trabWHAT STOPPED THEM FROM TRAINING SUCH A THEORETICAL BODILY FORCE FIELD BEFOREHAND? Seriously, this is a very basic ki-based power in these battle animes!

[@dingus6466]

subbed

[@milestrombley1466]

But can they defeat Goku?

[@guardianHQ]

No lol

[@yellowpig1026]

Only If speed is equalized and it's not post-cell saga

[@GeorgeMonet]

8:50 The dragon VERY CLEARLY DOES NOT TURN INTO STARS. He turns into SHOOTING STARS or SATELLITES. For a star to appear that small and be an actual star it would have to be hundreds of light years away but that energy was not traveling at millions of times the speed of light so clearly it only reached the atmosphere and not hundreds of light years away. And even if it did (which it didn't) that light would need to travel for hundreds of years to reach the planet. Since the light appeared INSTANTLY then it was only traveling about 100 miles. This means we know for sure that the dragon just created light sources IN ORBIT. Not real stars. Sorry but the characters in this show just are not strong at all.

[@Lordmaster135]

soooo main cast can beef with RWBY cast?

[@PlusOneGamer]

I don't want to be 'that guy' or anything, but Goku has dealt with "unbreakable" swords before. The Z sword was supposedly unbreakable and look what happened with that. I do realize that unbreakable and immutable mean two different things, so I do see the flaws in my argument here. I don't think you can logically scale magical abilities with scientific measurements, though. If you did than Pegasus blowing the skirt up on a constellation in Disney's Hercule's during the Zero to Hero song would imply that Pegasus's wings flap with enough force to blow stars around. It's inherently flawed this way to measure power when it comes to mysticism. There's plenty of examples in mythology and other fantasy settings where things become constellations or stars and I don't think it's ever literally implied that they are making actual suns trillions of light years away in any of those. It's usually done more tactfully though, and implied so that there's some mystery and wonder to the process. I'm just saying that all of the issues you're having with power scaling in this video I think would have been written around if they had put more thought into it and it probably wouldn't have bothered anyone if the story was actually good. As it stands, everyone is looking for every little detail to criticize, and I get it, it's fun to do that, but I do think these are things that are forgivable in other stories just because in those stories they actually spent the time to build them into the world. Everything in this show is just a hodgepodge of what they think is cool at the time from what I've seen and heard without any thought into how it would make a cohesive world.

[@maxtracker2904]

I doubt the hallway is actually infinite. Probably more like an extended pocket dimension that no one has reached the end of. Similar to the bags/suitcases in Harry Potter. Edit - it’s also seems implied by tone that Sage is just agreeing with Rosemary about dragons forming stars (“Yeah, sure”) Also also, the fact the characters know virtually nothing about guardian-ing or magic makes them pretty unreliable narrators 😅

[@AtticusKarpenter]

Considering how idiotically staged the battles in this cartoon, they actually look pretty good and dynamic. Even without rotating camera and all that stuff that a self-respecting action anime should have

[@George_Gogo01]

Abouth the infinite hallway thing...just because someone is able to create that thing doesnt mean they can use or that they know how to use that power in combat.Also,am not too sure why people assume shit like this or "if x can beat y then its automaticaly just as strong as the character they have beaten",thats just not how it work.Then there is using real life science to figure out the power of a character...that defy science or doesnt use it properly in the first place...yep,i hate vsbattles. Oh yeah...please tell me its meant to all be a big joke...right...RIGHT???

[@ehhhhhh1885]

oof brand matpat

[@RunningOnAutopilot]

Why are these people laughing at jokes that they haven’t made Oh I forgot don’t question the reason for anything nothing has any reason it’s all ad lib.

[@TTG-37]

You know who does beat Goku????? INFINITE CAUSE HE’S NOT WEAK

[@AtesSu2006.]

Creation is not a attack

[@Lordmaster135]

ehhh energy to create can equal energy to destroy.not necessarily but still

[@atomwolf6774]

whats with the cats... i swear every single thing made by these types of people need to involve some sort of cat...