Glitchtale is Objectively Terrible

[@StreamlineWorkshop]

Edit 2: For all you people coming here to tell me it’s not fair to go this hard on an indie creator, your innocent little Camila was tearing down and laughing other people’s work for as long as she was writing this series. And no I am not going to go easy on the child predator enabler. Edit: I keep seeing comments about this so I’m putting it here. I’m not misgendering Chara/Frisk on purpose. Camila wrote them as males instead of non binary and that’s the only reason why I refer to them as he/him. Every time you guys think I've finally died for good I'll come back to prove you wrong

[@sigmameal648]

Welcome back 😈

[@EdinamNutsugah]

Awesome, and I like your oc character

[@Funky-dude681]

how many times are you ganna die and come back

[@Nox.x_ART]

I’m intimidated

[@duskmuzzlethesassy]

Reserection

[@WinterAyars]

"Undyne decides that she can just un-die now..." This is the most canonical thing i have heard up to this point.

[@danaa-]

Minus the piano, or drama.

[@Acoustic_Shinji]

I mean, I don't think I ever watched to that point but I'm pretty sure she can revive with help of alphys or in her undying stage?

[@panpan3303]

@@danaa- Battle against a true hero starts with piano and it was pretty dramatic for her to save monster kid.

[@danaa-]

@@panpan3303 no, i was talkung about how glitchtale's undyne un-dying was a lot less dramatic than og undertale's.

[@danaa-]

@@Acoustic_Shinji alphys is dead because camila wanted undyne to be straight. Also because cam likes gaster more-

[@klavtism]

it makes me sad how many people in the comments are calling themselves stupid for liking glitchtale. 90% of you were, like, 7. and even if you weren't, _you're still allowed to like objectively bad things._ let yourselves have fun! that's what fiction is for!

[@Al_Marie]

SOMEONE FINALLY SAID IT

[@charlesjohnson-qc6hj]

I still like glitchtale even after watching this video, I even read a fanfic once that centers around Alina, and I think it could have been a bit better looking back at it, but I think it's still good.

[@inafrenzy1348]

You’re allowed to like bad, just don’t pretend they’re good, be obnoxious when proven otherwise, and have complete bias towards it

[@hunterculpepper1973]

Honestly I'm a person who likes Betty noire and was the only character I liked besides chara and frisk was borning I wanted frisk to full on be chara for a bit and not going full out at the start

[@hanaheaven9058]

Your right! Now I know how what to do and what not to do when it comes with forms of art, rather is writing or have full creative control.

[@linkcorriere846]

Hello, leader of the fandom wiki here. If I were to told you I understood the lore myself, I'd be lying. It's really hard to keep up with Camila to be honest with the amount of plot holes and stuff.

[@DrawciaGleam02]

Hello there! What's it's like running a fan wiki?

[@linkcorriere846]

@@DrawciaGleam02 Right now, it's more of a hibernation since I have big exams approaching but it's really nothing too much to be worried about :p If GT was as popular as it was a few years ago, it would be a nightmare but right now it really is just a laidback kind of thing.

[@TheKoopaKingBowser]

Just out of pure morbid curosity, elaborate on the "plot holes & stuff".

[@Sin-Nombre04]

Maybe im the only one but I like plotholes in all lores to make my own thoeries, the only exceptions are when the plotholes does not make fucking sense

[@ilhandaanish2381]

It’s an honour to meet a legend

[@tuskgauss2143]

Hey, lay off on Camila's background design, that's ME you're insulting. Camila hired me to give her access to all of the cities I built in Xbox 360 minecraft superflat worlds when I was 12.

[@iliasbee]

IM CRYINGHG

[@theholyketchup6445]

You have mastered comedy.

[@miscreantwithinternetacces7370]

😭

[@rabbittiger]

GOODNIGHT😭😭😭

[@parcanshy73]

Peak Comedy. Here's my like.

[@ThatGreenMach1ne]

"Why are all the female characters wearing long dresses?" It's so that Cami doesn't have to animate their legs lol.

[@Ebh55.]

I mean, is it really bad that all the female characters wear long dresses?

[@MarukaiX]

​@@Ebh55.Kinda it gives a lack of variety and makes them more generic

[@theviewer6889]

@@Ebh55. Yes, as it's really poor character design. In a modern setting, most women aren't going to be wearing ankle length dresses. In, say, a medieval style setting you can definitely get away with it, but the dresses would need to look medieval style otherwise it's bad character design. I understand that in a one person animation you'll want to simplify your work load as much as possible, but you can still keep it fairly simple by just making 3-4 'base outfits' that you stick on characters at random (eg. long dress, trousers plus t-shirt, trousers plus hoodie, and t-shirt plus mid length skirt (for the guys switch out dress with trousers plu shirt, and the skirt one with t-shirt plus shorts)). There, a simple way to give a much needed boost of variety to your background characters without notably increasing your workload. Like, as an animator myself I find the lack of effort to be really bad.

[@AlphaHaze]

@@Ebh55. it's not a bad thing but the real problem is the lack of diverse designs for each characters. Some characters look recolored too.

[@eestifan4ever]

​@@Ebh55.From character designs standpoint it's bad. For example, even in winx club, where most of the characters wear only short skirts and tops and it's kind of a "style" of the show, there still are characters who wear pants, long skirts, shorts, sweathers, etc. It gives a variety in designs and helps to make them distinct and unique despite literally being the same copypasted model. In camila's case.. it's kinda plain. Colored sweather+pants or skirt describes almost every characters in this show. It's plain and boring..

[@ri0tgodz645]

I feel like Betty should've kept up the manipulative schemer thing she had at the start, turning humanity against the monsters by amplifying their fear of them. Personally, not a fan of the giant pink blob

[@animated_finn]

This would’ve been way more fun and cool. Maybe she could still have her killing or whatever, with her kind of killing off characters as the series goes on (especially with her little spear thing which makes it easier) So like having mystery whilst still keeping suspense

[@hunterculpepper1973]

​@@animated_finn this is why the character is more popular than frisk and Chris and almost as much as chara

[@hunterculpepper1973]

​@@animated_finn great unique character just a bad writing b bad art c bad uses of her powers d chara vs Betty should of been the final fight not chara and asiera vs betty Noriega death animosity f she does mechaimed chara and asireal vs charas hate or Betty death move that kills her target

[@guyferrari8124]

I always assumed the plot was more of just a framework to have undertale characters fight a marysue in anime battles

[@ri0tgodz645]

@@guyferrari8124 Probably was, still sucks such a cool idea was abandoned almost immediately

[@Haruya-u3r]

It will never not be funny to me that literally every single thing Camila made fun of her audience for wanting ended up actually happening in the show

[@hunterculpepper1973]

Well one the one thing was chara vs Betty norie ecect they didn't technically kill eachother but Betty noire death wasn't her death her death move spawex that creature out of jojos bizarre adventure part 5 golden wind

[@luciusstohl4836]

Right? I remember when Sans first died and people were discussing how he might come back in the story later, Camila pretty triumphantly said how death is death and you can only move forward. Guess what happens.

[@DeltaBlazin]

​@@luciusstohl4836she brings him back for a stupid fucking fight scene that he doesn't even win, then he DIES again, mitigating Papyrus' efforts to save him COMPLETELY. Yeah, Cami's a bitch for that, if you didn't want him to come back then don't fucking use him after he dies then, he shouldn't have even died in the first place, it was just done for stupid shock value.

[@The_Average_Enjoyer]

@@luciusstohl4836tbf as soon as he’s brought back he’s almost immediately killed again which is fucking hilarious

[@notmariolevi2863]

@@The_Average_Enjoyer Not even killed, he just fucking melts in the summer heat and dies in the least dramatic way possible.

[@LilyGrace1990]

So I'm actually the VA for Alphys and Isabelle in Glitchtale and yeah, I can't really argue with you. I got the part through Strelok and worked exclusively with him. I tried watching it but I kind of just... didn't really get it. I mean it was really cool seeing my voice in a project this big and it'll always be an amazing experience but I've been out of the hellscape that is the Undertale fandom (and haven't spoken to/heard from anyone involved in the inner Glitchtale crew) for about 5 years now so I'm only just hearing about all the insanity that's going on with Camila. The sound/VA parts of it were kept very separate and I only spoke to Camila maybe once or twice in total around the time the first Alphys episode aired. Kind of an amazing experience and I'll always be glad I got to be part of a project this big, but I'd be lying if I said I actually liked it or kept up with it. And with everything that's been going down, I'm more glad than ever that I kept my distance. If you're still in the Undertale fandom after all this time, you are far braver than I will ever be.

[@likefrim]

I don't remember much about the show but I'm pretty sure that means you'd just make random caveman grunts?

[@mahlawn2808]

Glitchtale started out as some fun anime fights between undertale characters and it should've just stayed that way

[@zachbatsford]

I mean yea but when you strike oil or Strike gold do you just stop or do you start digging for more

[@llewelynshingler2173]

@@zachbatsford If you strike gold, you don't branch out into Basket Weaving

[@zachbatsford]

your right but how am I ment to carry the gold?@@llewelynshingler2173

[@1ne_24]

I'm glad the only thing i saw about this was that control animation about it, 6y me loved it with all my heart

[@thiccthighssavelives5866]

Why the fuck does this sound familiar- **Remembers RWBY** oh right-

[@jamesapplesword7846]

“Glitchtale is the golden standard” The disrespect to underverse is insane

[@TryingMyName]

The virgin Glitchtale: -Shitty story -Deviant art pink chara ripoff with no personality other than IM EVIL =) -Bad Lore -Person who made it is shit -shitty art style The Chad Underverse: -Good story -Balanced characters -Good animation -Character designs arent overly edgy -Xtale has good ocs -Creator is a chill and good person -Not cringe -Good lore without being convoluted

[@colorweaver5070]

Yeah that’s fair that is crazy disrespectful

[@AlphaHaze]

Underverse > Glitchtale fr

[@starmaker75]

There is also dog of future past.

[@solsoups]

like darn, at least underverse isn't violently transphobic!

[@bowtie235]

i love how the show just straight up has a ceo of racism

[@solaris4022]

You mean the RACEO-

[@jasperjazzie]

plus she randomly is just like "hey maybe racism is bad" and decides to switch sides with zero buildup and zero prompting

[@Pyracyntrix]

LMAO

[@ChxrryBxtchBoye]

It's Camila's Undertale sona guys!!!

[@bowtie235]

Moral nuance is challenging to write for, but like- if you can't think of a way to authentically make a character who's a bad person become a better person over the course of the story, then either keep them as a bad person or don't include them at all. It's honestly that simple and she couldn't even do that.@@jasperjazzie

[@jojofox4566]

I love how when first meeting Betty, Frisk just obliterates the car about to hit her and it's never really mentioned or acknowledged. Like, I know that it was a fake scenario and Kumu was the car, but Frisk didn't know that. They were just fully prepared to fucking murder a human in a crash

[@userojwhdbs]

It could also been a while family

[@smt64productions40]

Based Frisk?

[@sebastiaosousa5730]

Definetly😂​@@smt64productions40

[@Magma-Idiot-2001]

But that wasn't Akumu, that was an illusion, hence, why the camera didn't see the car. It's a bad series, but I will clarify incorrect info (I spent several years of my life with it as one of my autistic focuses, the only thing I will claim is that I can't notice plot holes most of the time).

[@icehorse2007]

Frisk: I love demochracy

[@ellieramune]

The fact that characters’ mistakes constantly get them sent to the shadow realm is some ominous foreshadowing for the hopeless peaches drama

[@ChxrryBxtchBoye]

I'm glad I stopped supporting her after her true colors began to show in the hopeless peaches drama

[@iaminsideyourwalls2021]

I'm out of the loop here. What the hell happened?

[@uneterostardust8233]

​@@iaminsideyourwalls2021Same, no idea wtf is going on

[@Gwynhyvr]

also curious; a quick search didn't turn up anything more recent than two years ago, which she replied to edit: unless OP is referring to Camila, in which case, godspeed

[@ellieramune]

@@iaminsideyourwalls2021 It’s a LONG LONG story but lemme summarize as best as I can. So basically Camilla has beef with Hopeless Peaches because during an art collab there was a misunderstanding and Camilla sold the collab art without Peaches’ permission. Hopeless Peaches confronted Camilla about this (both publicly and privately), and they seemed to forgive each other in private at the time. But Camilla constantly used it against her, like when Peaches was being dogpiled on a couple years ago. Whenever Peaches got into drama, Camilla always brought it up as a negative against Hopeless Peaches. There are entire videos documenting this and the peaches drama connects to multiple other dramas so I recommend watching those for the full breakdown. Edit: I did get the roles switched up at first, this is the correct version of events.

[@70Lu07]

The fact even Nyx called Glitchtale Bad and Boring tells you everything about this series, when someone who worked on it dislikes it, you know it's really that bad

[@kataveonevans6224]

Wait he actually said that?

[@DrawciaGleam02]

He made great music for it though....

[@70Lu07]

@@kataveonevans6224 he replied to a tweet saying that

[@kataveonevans6224]

@@70Lu07 I need to see it to believe it

[@Ebh55.]

@@70Lu07 Do you have a link to it maybe?

[@MyUsernameIsGoofy]

Something about the fact that Frisk increased his LV by just insulting everyone is funny, Like if you just drop a diss track you suddenly get 20 LV?

[@terminal8531]

EMINEM BE REACHING LV 20 WITH THIS ONE 🗣️🗣️🗣️🗣️🗣️🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥

[@SomeRobIoxDude]

⁠@@terminal8531nah, eminem is LV 100000000

[@potatopotato3284]

This. This is the best comment on this video

[@somedudethatripsplanetinha4221]

The key to power was racism all along

[@Tyranid_Hive_Mind]

​@@SomeRobIoxDudeconsidering the fact that he dissed mgk so hard thet he switched genres, i would agree

[@Caxkj0]

"Hmm, I haven't seen Glitchtale in a while. I wonder how it's-" *Creator is a victimizing abuser who harasses anyone who disagrees with her, mocks anything she doesn't agree with, and is a child predator enabler* We can't have nice things.

[@pillow_man111]

Yeah and in my situation, i remembered putting glitchtale ep1 on my playlist and as i was about to check and watch the video i then saw this video,and like i have no word😶.

[@bluemooncorps2923]

@@pillow_man111 I remember when I first discovered Glitchtale. I was so hyped for the series (up until she assassinated Frisks character) Then once I found out all this stuff, and also realized that the series didn't really live up to its potential anyway I gave up on it.

[@Ontopofyourmom]

I mean i don't really know but I think xtale is not bad I'm not sure tho I just remember I used to love it and it doesn't look bad rn

[@mousi9736]

Wth man, i look away for 2 years and shii hit the fan once again?? I mean this video being another one of those big drama+hate videos is a separate issue I am tired of trying to avoid (idk about contents i have not watched a min of this yet just commenting) but bruh this just keeps happening, last i remember the story was gonna go into the souls backstory or smth

[@RealAyoTark]

She uploaded a video around 4 weeks ago yapping about something completely boring idk. I'm glad she fell ofd

[@nobody7204]

As a kid, I kinda was blind to bad writing, bad plot, bad animation because I had no standards. But the thing you said about Betty is way too true, she is supposed to represent fear and use it against who she faces, but every time she supposedly uses this trait to manipulate and defeat her opponents, it's not fear she makes them feel but something closer to guilt or grief. Even a child like me could see this massive inconsistency.

[@beywheelzhater8930]

Bete. The character who represents fear. Power set includes: using everything but fear

[@RoundusMongus]

@@beywheelzhater8930Ah yes, needles, scythes, and sentient goo, my favorite aspects of fear.

[@beywheelzhater8930]

@@RoundusMongus to be fair played right and needles and scythes can be GREAT representations of fear. It just isn't because Bete has not once in the series tried to inspire fear

[@coralinelima5946]

I thought the grief was more a representation of fearing yourself. Like Frisk fearing that he will do something like the genocide again but it's been a long time since i've ever watched glitchtale so i don't remember correctly

[@nerdydebaterjj]

​@@beywheelzhater8930She can cause illusions, put people into nightmares, uses people mental symptoms against them through will, has a fearful intimidating design and true form and literally has a move called "Rhabdophobia." Yeah definitely not Fear resemblance...

[@thelastcrow5660]

Sans: Has telekinesis. Also Sans: Teleports IN FRONT of targets and tries to block hits with his 1 DF

[@TheSolarShadows]

Unless he pulled an Underverse and only got hit in the Bottle of Ketchup he had that is one STUPID idea

[@DisplayUsernameHere]

No hes using the blue heart mode to do that but if the object doesn't have a soul he cant use it

[@elmiklosyt652]

smart@@DisplayUsernameHere

[@TheSolarShadows]

@@DisplayUsernameHere …Everything in Glitchtale has a soul, except the weird thing that served as the final boss. Pretty sure Betty has a Pink soul.

[@TheSolarShadows]

@@DisplayUsernameHere The SOUL is the culmination of something’s being. It cannot live without a soul.

[@Tealflvrry]

Hi, former glitchtale fan here I actually got to ask Camila on her instagram story Q&A about her character designs to see if she had any old drafts, and her response was that she usually uses the first design she makes

[@namkia205]

That explains a LOT

[@Eggcalledsimon]

Dude sometimes i use the first draft i have but at least keeping a theme/references/character from another media in mind 💀

[@AlphaHaze]

Sounds like she really needs to hire someone to make the character designs for her 😭 That's why I started to redesign some of her ocs. I'm not sure if I'll be showing them on my channel though.

[@Eggcalledsimon]

@@AlphaHaze tbh i want to see the redesigns. Rn im struggling to make one for Betty since my objective is to make something cute while also feeling that something is REALLY wrong

[@defytony5594]

Her character design is all-around outrageous. Her oc's look like it was designed by a 12-year-old who uses Devianart. Heck, It's even an offense to those poor 12-year-old kids: they might be able to come up with something so much better. Other people can come up with way better designs on their first drafts.

[@Zedkah1]

Skeleton wrickles could have been easily portrayed by making cracks in the skulls instead, it couldv been a creative wayu to remind of wrinckles while showing ageing and experience

[@Max_The_Cats]

"How they got bodied from a 12 year old with a frying pan" I am starting to think how was it possible for the genocide route to be possible.

[@elgalbis7117]

Save and load ability

[@ilikepotatos5891]

​@@elgalbis7117plus the soul of a human is equal to The whole monster race souls

[@isimyok960]

It's seriously weird. Like Undyne can literally suplex rocks and survive 150 ft falls in her base form + has a metal armor but Frisk defeated her 20× stronger version with ballet shoes. Plot armor i guess

[@Chameleonred5]

Monsters are weak to malice. If you attack them with sadness or anger, they die more easily than if you attack them with apathy. If you attack them with genuine desire for them to die, they die more easily than if you attack them with sadness or anger. Combine this with save/load, and Frisk has a huge offensive capability combined with the power to never truly lose.

[@Chameleonred5]

@@isimyok960 Save/Load. Most people die to her first time. Most Frisks die to her first time. But eventually you learn all the steps to the dance and can execute them perfectly.

[@Cupdev]

blud really killed alphys just so undyne could be straight

[@quinn_fritz5262]

Oh my god I forgot Cam did that 💀💀💀💀

[@paingel_]

WAIT FR?? OH NAH BRO

[@insxmniacraven8184]

I killed Alphys cuz i just cant stand her (make undyne a wife so she stay a lesbian)

[@sou.4970]

I WAS SO SHOCKED WHEN SHE DIED

[@StrawberryCocoaPowder]

At least Alphys dodged being in this trash show 💀

[@bluekozmox]

I kinda love how Camila made Betty, her super overpowered and not at all generic OC, into the face of the show and channel as a whole, and then Camila herself ended up a villain

[@2-bit567]

Is this why Guilded Guy beat her up?

[@Sploknits]

Betty is generic wtf do you mean 0% creativity

[@buzalt]

​@@Sploknitssarcasm

[@remyrichardson8614]

@@2-bit567 wait is that real? i wanna see guildedguy beat the fuck out of that pink prick

[@PetBrickProductions]

My grand theory is that Betty was just a self-insert

[@lhumyaki]

let's be honest, I think one of the main reason glitchtale was so popular is because of the cool fights. I watched all that was out back when I was a teen, and I couldn't remember anything about the plot

[@spectrum3961]

Real

[@guycrew3973]

As a teen I don’t know shit about the series but I like the fights especially the gaster vs the pink girl one

[@Kirayoshiikage]

All i know about this is faster vs pink lady and that’s IT

[@flames9350]

Fr. My fave part was undyne's (last) battle scene. It was amazing.

[@uncleshrek3614]

So basically Super Mario Bros. Z but an undertale AU?

[@arin_102]

god, 13 year old me was having a brain aneurysm trying to put the whole “plot” together

[@MorningCoffie]

THE EXPLANATION OF THE SERIES GOT ME DEAD BRO "Bete doesn't want Jessica being top on the leaderboard and gets mad"💀

[@peebeeosc]

funny how I could keep up with the nutshell explanation more than the actual lore

[@MB18476]

Asgore reveals that he is the man" behind the slaughter" 💀

[@Marcuskwok-hn5yi]

@@MB18476since everyone is cheating frisk also decides to cheat by raising their level to 19

[@pogggaming4470]

@@Marcuskwok-hn5yi It doesn't work *Insert Frisk ragdolling around*

[@Marcuskwok-hn5yi]

@@pogggaming4470 insert *plot armor*

[@ishzabelle4460]

Undyne being insecure with her abilities is valid but seeing her turning into THAT was so weird. Undyne would 100% go rabid and train to be better after what happened. She's literally the one monster who persevered through death just to stop a tiny child in the geno route despite said child whooping her multiple times

[@Adul11100]

In one of the neutral endings if you befriend Undyne and later kill Metaton, which will cause Alphys to "disappear" Undyne will be depressed and unable to do anything

[@cremmy_crem621]

@@Adul11100that's really sad to think about

[@animated_finn]

@@Adul11100This is only if you befriend Undyne though, as she feels betrayed by the player. Betty is NOT undynes friend. If anything, she wouldve been the FIRST person out in the field. Also one thing that irks me about glitchtale undyne is that Canonically, Undyne is a lesbian, no? So tell me why as soon as Alphys dies, a random justice guy enters the picture. It's kinda weird how Cami was trying to set up a lesbian with a guy (and before you say she wasn't, literally look at all of their scenes together and tell me how its not obviously interpreted as one party falling for the other). Not to mention, this isn't a one time thing. She erased Frisk and Chara's identity of being non-binary, for what?? "So they dont get sexualised". SO many things wrong with that statement. For one, it erases Frisk and Charas identities of being part of the LGBTQ+ community (being non binary) which is already off to a bad start, but she goes on about the sexualisation of children as if boys cannot be sexualised? I'm just saying it doesnt feel like a coincidence when the "in your face" lgbt is at the wayside or just erased Alphys and Undyne - Lesbians | Alphys dies and Undyne is set up with a guy Alphys is only used twice, and thats to die and be undynes plot armour Frisk and Chara - Nonbinary | Sudden retcon to having he/him pronouns Frisk literally got replaced/ erased because Cami doesnt know how to write good character arcs, and Chara was relegated to "Asriels Brother" Mettaton - Trans | (Surprisingly, she didnt erase anything about his identity which is like the only good thing she did) Mettaton appears around 3 times in the series, once as a VERY minor cameo in early season 2, another in the battle against betty (which was admittedly very underwhelming) and lastly in the epilogue. Sorry for the rant but it irks me how Cami clearly doesnt know how to write good characters AT ALL

[@SteveCrafts2k]

@@animated_finn Mettaton's trans?

[@chocomelo454]

​@@SteveCrafts2kiirc at the very least he fits as an allegory for one. from what I remember it was that he used to be a ghost like the lil funky crying ghost guy, but he never felt right with ghost body or something? but then when he got mettaton'd ge didn't feel that way.

[@so_what_i]

WHY DID PAPYRUS' CHIN KEEP EXPANDING LMAO-

[@pogggaming4470]

He’s handsome sure but that’s taking it too far, why it keeps expanding?

[@maneater_mela]

He's been mewing /j

[@rosemary3029]

He's the crimson chin

[@7drag0n]

the skelechin

[@KyoryuKing]

Looksmaxing

[@ajgameguy3674]

Honestly, I think Glitchtale would've worked better as a chill, slice of life type of show with the earlier style. I dunno, the chibi designs of the characters back then were kinda adorable, so it clashed with when stuff got dark or gorey. If the series was a comedy that focused more on the characters themselves and their dynamics with each other, rather than an action packed series that constantly needed to up the stakes and kill off characters, it probably wouldn't have been so meh after the start of season 2. After that point, it felt like Glitchtale constantly tripped over itself whenever it tried to bring in more character drama and fight scenes after each Episode.

[@sonicfanboy3375]

So basically RWBY Chibi

[@fanimation617]

Or start second season as slice of life and then go for action, Animated kid shows do thi kind of things, they use a season the stablish and the next one for plot

[@Deflamed_Sphere]

YO its you!

[@Ledecral]

Long story short: She had success in creating a fanfiction with no OC's, that MOSTLY stuck to the series lore, and gave an ending that literally everybody wanted anyway.(S1 Glitchtale) When she got the confidence boost from s1 success, she though of branching out, doing something new, but it turned out she SUCKED at original ideas.

[@lalalalo5955]

Ah. A classic Butch Hartman move.

[@adishovskiy]

Becauuuseee when you specialise in fight scenes you maybe should either stick to the fight scenes, or if you want to try to add original writting into it so bad, you shouldn't bite more than you can fit in your homgry mouth, make a story that is clearly too complicated and grand for you to handle, and actually try not telling people how original and cool you are...

[@viennasavage9110]

I actually have found that more people liked season 2 than people liked season 1

[@Ledecral]

@@viennasavage9110 interesting, I wonder if someone did a poll what would come up.

[@viennasavage9110]

@raptorren806 glitchtale season 1 didn't have anywhere near the notoriety as season 2. At least, that's what I'm basing this off of. Come season 2, there were almost twice as many reactions, views, overall revenue, and a rapid increase of subscribers. Season 2 is what took it from a random flash animation to a true passion project people bought merchandise from imo.

[@hexgleph]

ARTISTS!!! GET YOUR PENCILS READY!!! WE WILL BE EATING GOOD TONIGHT!!!

[@r1ngingb3ast]

YEAHAHHAHAHAHAHAGGHHHHHH

[@Reed_Ever]

🎉

[@WorshipperOfKhone]

I already ate the eraser tip of my pencil off :(

[@hexgleph]

@@WorshipperOfKhone Aw shucks. Dw, you can improvise. I believe in you.

[@WorshipperOfKhone]

@@hexgleph but I ate the graphite to the pencils too :(.... Now I'm left with wood

[@xXSweetKillerXx]

44:23 Never in a million years would I have guessed that it was supposed to be a POLICE UNIFORM. I thought that it was a pajama

[@MVW_action]

Yeah it doesn't even have a slight indication that this was a Police Uniform!

[@weezarddd__]

it genuinely flabbergasted me, those fr look like the jammas I wear but _BLUE._ also nice cole pfp :3c

[@stick2sd448]

Just WTH is that "Police Outfit", I used to think it was pajamas too

[@bluemooncorps2923]

I swear I thought I was the only one who thought those were Pajamas.

[@CattleTheCat]

Good lord! A toddler could draw a better police uniform with their eyes closed! 😂

[@ellag3265]

You could literally classify all of Jessica's crimes against Sans (aggravated assault with a deadly weapon x2, accessory to murder) to be hate crimes because the reason Jessica wanted to kill Sans was because he was a monster.

[@citrusjam16]

And yet SOMEHOW we're meant to sympathize with her?? What the HELL was Camila smoking

[@mamunrashid6404]

@@citrusjam16 not defending jessica but you could say the same for every monster that attacked frisk

[@fedethegreat88]

​@@mamunrashid6404yeah but they actually had *some* reason to kill them (getting out of the underground, as well as vendetta against the humans who trapped them there). Jessica is just racist to be racist

[@CannoliSlugYT]

Jess hates the monsters bcuz of her dead daughter but it doesn't excuse her racism and it would make sense for her had hatred ONLY on Asgore cuz he was the one who killed all the children according to the Glitchtale plot.

[@DM-Oz]

​@@CannoliSlugYTGrief and hate are not rational. It dosnt "make sense". Nit making sense is what makes the most sense if anything. End result is, her daughter fell to the underground and was killed, so now she hates monsters cause their king killed her daughter. What exactly dosnt msie sense?

[@Frickll]

The fact that Camilla’s backgrounds ad perspective are so broken despite her history of tracing is wild to me. Like, tracing photos of real life objects is a very valid method of practice and study.

[@crumpscrumbs]

Wait, seriously? Man, I gotta try that. Any videos you can recommend that talk about this subject in detail?

[@Dichete]

yea i guess it works for some time but then u gotta start getting other techniques

[@Knux5577]

she was too lazy to trace for backgrounds tracing still requires a modicum of effort and time, just a lot less time, research, trial and error. besides, she didn't trace real life objects. she traced other work. there's a difference.

[@Frickll]

@@Knux5577 yeah i get that. It’s just ironic that she had a proper way of learning right there and chose to misuse it.

[@dyphonix]

@@crumpscrumbs tracing is a really good learning tool, but one that should be used sparingly. imo, it's okay if you trace real things/body parts while drawing if it helps you get better at drawing that thing. the problem comes when you trace art that isn't yours yet claim that you drew it or even worse, monetize it. tracing helped me draw some things like shoes and similar, so I would recommend.

[@thatgermandaniel]

"Gaster is a tough 'I don't feel no feelings' sigma male" I lost it lmao

[@drascia]

"Alphys is anxious"

[@kikodalaya0601]

Glitchtale has so many plotholes it gave me trypophobia.

[@OFFICIAL_I.D.I.O.T.S_DJ]

That's so real

[@sand_eater101]

That’s such a creative diss, I’m screenshotting this

[@Da_badz]

STOPP

[@kikodalaya0601]

@@sand_eater101 chat, am I showing up on r/rareinsults rn??

[@Dumbwasp]

Fuck that's a good one. Teach me your ways

[@gjkdshgkjshjkgdfg]

"Frisk gets depression after realising he's in a horribly written series" SENT ME

[@notjx113]

Asuka fans reign supreme on every, single, community, I see y'all everywhere and I was one myself, for like a month or 2 I forgot.

[@MountainMemelord]

​@@notjx113Never underestimate the power of anime women.

[@cakes9739]

camila must’ve played undertale with her eyes closed because my GOD how does someone manage to mischaracterize this badly? i’ve seen fanfics on wattpad written by children too young to even be on the internet with free access who had a better grasp of their personalities than whatever camila had going on with the character arc she tried to make undyne go through also !!PAPYRUS!! of all people not understanding kindness?? actual abysmal writing jfc

[@seekerstheshy3842]

it's like when you get so wrapped up in making fan content you stop looking at the source material so all you have to go off of is vaguely remembering what happened, or at least thats what it feels like. all the stuff from undertale feels like a half remembered blur

[@cakes9739]

@@seekerstheshy3842 while this is what most definitely happened, it’s still crazy to me that someone wouldn’t interact with the source material after awhile when the story you’re trying to tell still directly ties into it, but i guess this is what happens when you’re too focused on trying to bullshit your way through your story and making your oc (betty is more like camilas self insert tbh) OP

[@ding0dkikl_]

it's how she's interpreting her own story, don't like it don't watch but it's just plain fun

[@gamerits]

well her interpretation is fucking terrible then

[@MammalianCreature]

@@ding0dkikl_We are allowed to criticize things. Sorry if the criticism is a bit scathing, but it's something we're allowed to do.

[@CasperdaGreat]

Betty is an awful character, but one thing I can give Camila credit for is some of her visceral expressions. They’re absolutely incredible, and if only that energy was directed toward a better written series

[@DoctorBones1]

glitchtale sans was gojo before gojo was popular -blue eyes -incredibly op near the start of the story -everyone fanboyed/fangirled over him -(spoiler) died, got revived, and then died again and then fan reception got terrible afterwards

[@abrago7880]

Why is this actually accurate

[@fanimation617]

I was literally laughing my ass off because on how similar this was to JJK writing at times

[@cools-mc-fools]

that last part is also (RWBY spoilers) Penny from Rwby lol

[@SunshowerWonderlab]

​@@fanimation617 hey at least Gege can keep things SEMI-consistent.

[@gamergreg94]

"With these sacred souls, I summon The God of Hyperdeath, Asriel!" -Flowey "You can see it Asriel! You can see my soul techniques!" -Chara "Nine bones. Polarized blast. Bone and Blaster. Between the Underground and the Surface. 200% Hollow Blaster Wall!" -Sans This truly was our Jujutsutale...

[@illYT-tt2vm]

Wait what Undyne’s blue uniform was a police uniform?! I found that out just now LMAO I THOUGHT SHE WAS JUST WALKING AROUND IN PAJAMAS😂

[@seelevollerei7340]

i thought it was a hospital outfit

[@ballslover-es9gw]

I THOUGHT I WAS THE ONLY ONE

[@eldritchcupcakes3195]

I mean she absolutely would do that so not surprised

[@Hijiki_san]

​@@eldritchcupcakes3195😂lol

[@moshimeshowu747]

I 100% agree with that

[@marineconquest4942]

remember when she made a video making fun of people who said sans and chara would come back, and would help kill betty, only for that to LITERALLY HAPPEN..

[@bowtie235]

WAIT WHAT REALLY??? I REMEMBER THAT VIDEO LMFAO

[@Jdudec367]

Did that actually happen???

[@miniwhiffy3465]

well i mean neither chara nor sans kill betty

[@iaminsideyourwalls2021]

@@miniwhiffy3465 Keyword "help"

[@marineconquest4942]

@@Jdudec367 idk if the video is still up but that happened LOL

[@sergiobread1844]

I like how a show named GLITCHtale is barely about glitches, and more about complex soul magic bullshit. Edit: Key Word: barely.

[@erihtea0719]

This exactly. There is so much interesting stuff that could be done with glitches but it deviates completely from that idea. Could've called Glitchtale something dumb like Feartale or something if they wanted to relate to the topic.

[@CannoliSlugYT]

​​@@erihtea0719 or WataHeckIsGoingUp?!-tale.

[@justalex8307]

@@erihtea0719it's called glitchtale because the story couldn't of been possible without them, the story deviates from glitching when Frisk is erased because he's the reason why they're glitching. After that its up to the characters themselves to iron out the opportunities they've gotten(gaster existing outside the void, monsters gaining physical bodies because of the upper world, and fighting for their rights in almost political setting) so they can lead happy lives. Ofc Betty comes to destroy that and hate following her death but that's kinda the point; Betty in a nutshell is bug fix that's supposed to course correct the problem through the lense of the game. They make her a efficient bug parch(murder) by allowing her trait to directly change and manipulate the main power system which is emotion. Its also the reason why alphys died, she's not a monster or human, she's basically code. The black beast was a forced creation to justify her existence in a lore centric way

[@disorgan1zedchaos]

they should just call it confusiontale because that's definitely how i feel watching it

[@skell6134]

@@disorgan1zedchaos Wdym ? If you watch it through its mostly coherent,like i can count amount of too weird stuff with just my arms fingers

[@shib9780]

ah yes i love when the city is only made up of giant apartment complexes and we rarely see an actual house

[@BeelzeBubblesTheBee]

Honestly, I’ve been wanting to look back at Glitchtale with a critical lens ever since the drama with Camila came out. I wanna see for myself if the show was really all that good now the rose tinted glasses of being excited to see an animated series about my special interest are gone

[@Staarzz]

What drama?

[@BeelzeBubblesTheBee]

@@Staarzz She was friends with a p3d0 and tried to silence his victims when the spoke out. HarleyTBS, Hopeless Peaches and Definitely Bored Oranges have all made videos about it

[@adishovskiy]

Glitchtale inspired me to make my own series back in the day, and I am working on it now... But I cringe so hard when I remember where I came from lol

[@dillydraws]

@@adishovskiy SAMEEE I wanted to make a cool battle animation but wasn't skilled enough at the time to make a good one.

[@elusivo3347]

@@adishovskiy Literally same, I’m still gonna make my own series in the form of a fanfic someday. But regarding the topic of this video and etc, it makes me feel ashamed to see that most of the plot elements of the story of GlitchTale is not only flawed inherently, but just unoriginal and plagiarised ideas…

[@Cton9573]

Methods of sleeping: -Pills -Bed -Exhaustion -Glitchtale

[@benjaminfricke4791]

Methods of torture would be more accurate.

[@Pihsrosnec]

​@@benjaminfricke4791ah yes, bed, the ultimate torture

[@doritos4956]

​@@Pihsrosnecsleep on a bed with food crumbs and feel the urge to scratch every part of you and the look me in the eye while saying that it isn't torture

[@manboy4720]

@@doritos4956 i can't see your eyes.

[@doritos4956]

@@manboy4720 eye*

[@Pseudoaquanaut]

If anyone wants a refresher, here’s how souls work in canon: Red: does nothing, implied to have resurrective capabilities. Light blue: also not incredibly useful, light blue attacks don’t hurt if you stay still. Blue: gravity. Green: can’t move, the only time we use a green soul is when Undyne gives us a spear to protect ourselves. Green attacks heal. Purple: bound; can only move left or right, and switch roads. Yellow: gun. Yellow attacks can be switched on or off by a yellow soul. Orange: does nothing, orange attacks force you to move. So purple attacks should be able to bind. Blue attacks could be magnetic. But apparently, they’re just blades, because I don’t know. Blue doesn’t even make sense; why is it a long sword? Why not something bouncy, since jumping is one of blue’s big things? And hey, since purple is perseverance, maybe it could create armor? Or some kind of mobile shield? Whyyy is pink fear? Why is fear evil? Perhaps it could have to do with cowardice and prejudice, but then why is Betty always fighting things herself? And what the hell is up with HATE? That’s not even a trait, everyone hates something, like how I hate this headache I’m giving myself.

[@Pseudoaquanaut]

Also apparently the skeletons who fight with bones and have exposed ribs and pelvises and are always showing their teeth have skin and mouths. PAPYRUS OPENS HIS TEETH LIKE LIPS, REVEALING MORE FUCKING TEETH. YOU CAN HAVE A CHARACTER EMOTE WITHOUT FACIAL FEATURES, I SWEAR. And let’s not talk about how often Camilla forgets the very principles of animation. Squash and stretch? Pose to pose? EXAGGERATION? WHAT ARE THOSE? No, animation is just moving characters a bit so that they slightly resemble living people, there’s no such thing as studying other works and reading what professionals have to say.

[@pg28]

So i have the explanation for pink being fear Its because its the "opposite of bravery" which would be fear. IIRC pink is maybe(?) on the opposite side of the color wheel to orange? I dont remember. And i am not looking it up. Im to lazy To sum up. Uhhh Forbidden spell makes soul "invert". The inverse or opposite of bravery or courage is fear or cowardice. As for why fear is evil. I dont know. But it made some cool fight scenes and i got some damn cool characters out of it. Fuck yeah

[@jacksonvoet8312]

Honestly, we don’t even know what the red trait is, other than the fact that every red soul we’ve encountered is a being that is possessed by us, and the abilities it shows in Deltarune evoke freedom or control, or maybe even Hope. Honestly, people forget that determination is yellow.

[@veryangryduckpl2122]

​@@jacksonvoet8312I think that red has to do something with resets and timelines. (based on undertale yellow, so of course not canon, but....) Frisk at lv 1 was already able to take over the timeline from Flowey. Clover couldnt do that till lv 20. Frisk at lv 20 deleted the entire timeline (well Chara, but whatever)

[@veryangryduckpl2122]

​@@jacksonvoet8312Also aint justice yellow?

[@jtreview7506]

34:20 Okay this street is actually insane. 1. The curb on the left is like a foot high while on the right it’s half a foot, 2. It’s not even really a curb the concrete slabs of the sidewalk are just super thick essentially 3. The corner in the top right is like, angled downwards it seems 4. The road line markings are just crazy, it implies that this is three different one way lanes since the markings don’t allow merging or turning in anyway. 5. No matter what orientation you make the one way roads, the car driving towards Betty has to have broken the law in some way, because either they came from the right going the wrong way and are now going the correct way on the one way or vice versa, but regardless they can’t turn that way because the fucking lines don’t allow it

[@doomclasher9287]

Roads can be uneven though, this is caused by the pressure cars put on roads, how water interacts with the roads and the ground below it, earthquakes (both large ones and those too small for a human to feel), and more

[@jtreview7506]

@@doomclasher9287 This is true, and while that might explain the issue with the angled section in the top right, the idea that random erosion and other natural factors caused the two sides to evenly differ for the entire length of the road is extremely unlikely. If it was like, parts of the sidewalk were higher or raised and lowered like a wave I’d believe it to be more likely. Also no way the artist thought about natural factors changing sidewalk height and then forgot how road markings work completely

[@crossoverworlds2678]

Season 2 would've been better if there was no mary sue and we *just* focused on the conflict between humans and monsters living on the surface. Edit: Holy magikarp over halfway to 1k likes. That's some insanity.

[@crossoverworlds2678]

Seriously if i had the willpower and motivation i'd just fuckin rewrite the story myself.

[@miniwhiffy3465]

@@crossoverworlds2678well seeing you are saying you'll rewrite the story something tells me you don't know how to for if you did you'd of made your own story without planing to steal others

[@meatballmustard7658]

yea but that would be actually interesting

[@okeirany7652]

@@miniwhiffy3465 Someone's never heard of fanfiction

[@justspectator3557]

@@miniwhiffy3465why so personal? Also, what gave you that idea? You realize that some of amazing stories we have are based off of / are fanfics of older books? Also, again, why so personal?

[@accuratememin]

12 minutes in, and I'm surprised you haven't talked about how Frisk manages to now speak complete, full sentences instead of "You tell Jessica..." and "You tell Sans..."

[@laszlokaszas1003]

I mean, if Chara narrator theory is true in Glitchtale, then it makes some sense that it no longer describes in the second person.

[@exprougart.4591]

am gonna find you

[@twindrill2852]

Betty is an awful villain. She's barely built up as a "twist" villain and proceeds to become such Sue-like character to the point where I genuinely didn't know if her "death" would actually stick.

[@hunterculpepper1973]

Honestly out of every single thing Betty noire was a new character and it was just poor execution her actual character is great personality great abilities great powers being the antophis to charas void like hate so it's great unique character just the wrong writer

[@bumbabees]

she genuinely feels like a character i wouldve come up with when i was eleven. yknow, like that type of character kids come up with that cant die no matter what and is actually an "angel demon hybrid werewolf vampire"

[@Olivertheolive]

Did she die tho? I wanna know AND IM NOT WATCHING THE ENTIRETY OF GLITCHTALE FOR THE ANSWER

[@kowaipinku]

​@Olivertheolive chara and asriel killed her and everything went back to normal except sans alphys and jessica are ded lmao and also undyne who is apparently shipped with another of

[@OneOfGamers]

​@@Olivertheolivevery definitely dead trust me bro

[@Justafella523]

this series is like a sandcastle in a tsunami. Anything previously established just gets swept away and never seen again

[@Glacial11]

wow the lore is more incomprehensible then FNAF or The Evillious Chronicles. that’s kind of impressive in an awful way

[@tigercat1080]

as a fan of both, i'm feeling more sane than ever lmao

[@hurri.]

Welcome to Kingdom Hearts

[@okiokipo]

same @@tigercat1080

[@numsei-9291]

FNaF at least tries to make the lore work, but Glitchtale, simply doesn't

[@runnerupoftheoldworld]

I feel like Evillious actually makes the weird lore work pretty well, ngl. Each song feels like unearthing a story lost to time, or something like that.

[@apertureAI-jw1iz]

You know, looking back, the art for this series was WAY worse than I remember, all it had going for it was that beginning sans fight, and even then, it was leaning hard into every stereotype invented by the fandom. (Frisk being a little baby that needs sans to help them despite being fully capable of wiping out the underground, chara possessing them to do flips and shit to avoid attacks, sans remembering resets instead of just being really good at reading faces)

[@DrawciaGleam02]

Eh, I always liked the Sans remembers resets concept. Fun idea to play around with.

[@laytonjr6601]

​@@DrawciaGleam02Middle ground: he remembers them unconsciously or in dreams/nightmares

[@penntopaper9305]

@@DrawciaGleam02 he cant remember them, but is acutely aware of when they happen

[@fourthmatchflame]

@@penntopaper9305 pap can though, considering he knows when sans is pranking you across space and time.

[@angryboi595]

Legit not one mf got a SPRINKLE of shading 😭

[@Luigicat11]

"Wait, isn't Perseverance just Determination?" Can't fault Camila for those two being considered separate SOUL traits. That one's a part of actual Undertale.

[@DrawciaGleam02]

I wondered about those two souls as well. In fact, I think Perseverance would be the 2nd strongest soul trait if Determination is the strongest soul trait.

[@KaihighOG]

@@DrawciaGleam02 I actually thought about this a bit. Determination "refuses" death, Perseverance "deters" it. Perseverance Souls will shatter, but the parts won't scatter, held together by the Soul's magic. It's stuck in a catatonic state, where one shift to one end or the other means life or death.

[@avacadotoast5571]

I usually see people distinguish the two traits by saying that Perserverance is adaptive, while Determination is more one-track minded, which I think makes the most sense.

[@sheogorath6834]

Well, Determination is not a trait in canon anyways.

[@Luigicat11]

@@sheogorath6834 It _is_ a thing that's separate from Perseverance, it's just that there's no actual canon confirmation (unless you count genocide route save text, which could just be red to be ominous) that it's the red soul's trait, or what the red soul's trait is, so people tend to fit those bits of missing information together.

[@bigboispaghet5099]

"but dude, you can't just watch a feature film worth of glitchtale criticism and STILL complain about how little free time you have-" yes i can

[@ItsChevnotJeff]

It still bugged me to this day that Undyne's police "uniform" looks more like pajamas In fact, almost everyone in the second season all look like they have nothing in their wardrobes but pajamas, you'd expect the fact that Mettaton still being famous after Asgore's arrest would imply a trend wave of fashion Edit: Also, I just wanna say this, but the decision to render actual voice acting to an absolute minimum seems redundant, especially with an exposition heavy show like Season 2 Like, I can't help but be put off at the characters ah- ing and oh- ing and occasionally calling other people's names like I'm watchinga bunch of Minecraft villagers(which would explain the choice of clothing) She even showed how each character would sound with full sentences, and it was the best cast of characters yet, and a very good cast of VAs an animated series of this calibre can have yet, atleast for me

[@ilhandaanish2381]

Until I watched this video I genuienly thought it was just her home clothes I had no idea it was meant to be a police uniform

[@ItsChevnotJeff]

@@ilhandaanish2381 IKR, and another thing, the whole Dreemur family, mostly Asriel and Asgore, all look off, their hair being more like toupee than anything, and Papyrus in his shirt isn't good at all, heck not even his battle body is drawn right. The final battle between the bones and Betty I barely managed to sit through, as well as most of the fights in season two besides Undyne vs Betty(the first one)

[@IndustrialMenace]

I did think it was pajamas, to be honest. When she said that it was a police uniform, I was thinking "what?" and had to take a minute.

[@AlphaHaze]

Even back when I blindly praised Glitchtale I can't help but think Undyne looks so ugly in those clothes. Also, wasn't Deltarune Chapter 1 released at that time when Glitchtale is still in progress? Even Undyne there looks like an actual police officer despite being made up of pixels WAY FEWER than Cami's drawing. She should at least take inspiration from that or better yet, just simply search up "police uniform" on Google! 🤦‍♀️💀

[@CannoliSlugYT]

​@@ItsChevnotJeff Undyne's design could be anything but not a police uniform.

[@linz_10]

Glitchtale had been my hyperfixation for almost 5 years. 5 YEARS, and I’m still learning new things about how convoluted this series lore is. Jesus Christ.

[@isengarde9490]

Welcome to the life of a Warhammer fan.

[@miniwhiffy3465]

bro the lore ain't that complicated

[@glitchydood1558]

God bless your soul

[@pokeczarelf]

Looks like I'll have to go back to her Team Nemesis Lore of sorts.

[@ding0dkikl_]

you can keep that hyperfixation, why frame it as a bad thing

[@marineconquest4942]

anyone else thought it was funny how this series’s was consistently referred to as an alternate timeline instead of an alternate universe, like this was something that could occur within the confines of undertale canon???

[@numsei-9291]

It's just that Fan mentality of "Nah, this thing could TOTALLY happen!" Even tho It goes agains't everything taught about the game/series up to that point

[@MrGamernova]

You sound like someone who didn't unlock Bf in Super smash bros melee.

[@risurisunaa]

I once commented on Glitchtale like "ew, this Mary Sue is doing whatever she likes, and makes no sense", and Camila actually responded me with something like "nah it's not like that" I don't really remember what was it all about. I don't really remember what Glitchtale is about lol

[@jackhinkley8133]

1:09:08 admittedly, undyne DOES go through depression in undertale, during a neutral route, where you kill mettaton, alphys is implied to take their life, and undyne is depressed, and loses the will to do anything and sleeps on papyrus’s couch. I don’t think camila knew that route when doing this depression arc, but I AM saying this has precedence.

[@helton1812]

like how you can tell at exactly what point in the series Camila watched the video explaining why Chara isn't the villain of Undertale

[@StreamlineWorkshop]

That video actually came out after the finale of Glitchtale though I’m sure Camila was inspired by the community discussion at the time.

[@helton1812]

@@StreamlineWorkshop oh :(

[@DeepEye1994]

Chara apologists are delusional and cherry pick their evidence or make it up.

[@helton1812]

@@DeepEye1994 ?

[@seekerstheshy3842]

@@DeepEye1994 jesus, chill

[@HoneyButter_Biscuit]

I may not be an artist but i think a better way of showing an old skeleton would be their bones having a tinge of yellow. Mainly because bones when exposed to air (if I'm not mistaken) grow yellow over time.

[@the_second_channel]

nah its adding b o n e w r i n k l e s thats obviously the best way.

[@fangirl3323]

Wait that's a real thing?

[@GumSkyloard]

@@fangirl3323 Yep! You know how teeth go yellow? Same can happen to bones.

[@hamishstewart5324]

These could also coincide with the wrinkles being replaced with cracks.

[@nathanpierce7681]

god imagine gaster, sans and papyrus constantly having to treat themselves so that they don't look yellow as hell lmao that'd be so funny

[@Ascendens_Sleepy]

nah the "plot" totally makes sense if you follow these rules 1. the rules that are set up dont matter 2. anyone can do anything at any time for any randomly generated reason 3. past events are not canon 4. things sometimes are something else than what they are 5. hax rules 6. any particular affliction anyone has only applies if they feel like it 7.undertale has no rules when rhett con pulls up 8. every location is a step away or infinite if you think about it for an infinite amount of time and pick a random option from those infinite thoughts 9. everyone's phyisology is subjective and made of jelly 10. the rooms are jell-o and easily shift 11. colours are subjective

[@InriCoheedLoseo]

Glitchtale will make sense if you dont play the game or know its plot at all, or if Glitchtale is actually the original one instead.

[@Ascendens_Sleepy]

@@InriCoheedLoseo frfr

[@thatoneguy9582]

RHETT CON LMFAO

[@GSPScorp]

*I love how canon is spelled wrong*

[@Ascendens_Sleepy]

@@GSPScorp spelling is for things that require effort fr

[@helion_ut]

My biggest pet peeve with Glitchtale has always been the side profiles. Holy shit, why are they so incredibly ugly, some frames of the show look incredible until a character looks to the side and suddenly have the ugliest face- I'm just puzzled, obviously she is a good and experienced artist, how can she not be able to draw okay looking side profiles-

[@AlphaHaze]

Thank god I'm not the only one who notices this 😭 Most of the characters (execpt for Toriel, Asgore, Asriel, and Alphys) look like they have awkwardly long snouts with some of them barely having a gap between the nose and the mouth. It just looks so goddamn weird 💀

[@theforthspecialone8290]

> obviously she is a good and experienced artist, how can she not be able to draw okay looking side profiles She's not lol, she has no concept of anatomy, no grasp of color theory, lighting or composition, the only thing she can do is copy what she saw in anime poorly. She's basically stucked in that phase where every artists draw anime because it's cool, but it's even worse with Camila since Glitchtale is so popular I don't think she feel the need to improve on anything. She may be good in animating but she's lacking a lot in.. everything else. I used to remember quite fondly of the series, art and story wise, but now looking back I can't even understand how my dumb child brain could even look up to this

[@ding0dkikl_]

Jesus crhist you are a horrible person ripping into her. it's just not her forte, God you people are cruel.

[@AlphaHaze]

@@ding0dkikl_ bro calm down you're literally in a comment section of a video ranting about glitchtale. Of course people are gonna criticize the flaws in the show so why not read something else? And isn't Camila Cuevas also a terrible person??? She was only upset that her boyfriend cheated on her (which is understandable) but was very ignorant about the fact that he cheated on her with MINORS.

[@ding0dkikl_]

@@AlphaHaze what it got to do with her art though. you people are ripping into her art lime nothing, she's not a Saint or a professional. the "criticism" is legit just art bad which is the worst and it only justifies bullying her. if you can't separate the art from the artist don't watch at all

[@vernowietsch]

Holy heck I've been playing with the idea of making a video taking apart glitchtale at some point in the future, but I came to the conclusion that I was too scared of being hunted for sport as it seemed to be very beloved and I had never seen criticism of it before. I salute you for your boldness

[@StreamlineWorkshop]

THEY CAN COME AT ME!! RAHHHHHHH

[@kingj9664]

​@@StreamlineWorkshop Great video and glad to see you're back. You know, You would think with all the connections she had in the stickman community which are full with some pretty amazing animators she would have asked some of them to help her with character designs and backgrounds. I was honestly gonna watch the series eventually because I kept saying people talk about how cool the fights were and thanking the story was going to be good too, But the story is this plot holy are the fights even worth watching and your opinion? Anyway like I said cool video and glad you're back and if you want to find out another interesting web series to watch myself as you take out indie cross if you like indie games and at least pretty good animation imo check it out Have a nice day

[@gabrielebasa4292]

How are you 2 days earlier this video came out like 11 hours ago

[@snarkybug4]

@@gabrielebasa4292 It’s a premiere

[@gabrielebasa4292]

@@snarkybug4 thanks

[@idktbh-ih2io]

This series is making fnaf lore more easy

[@ZhingXi]

Deadass 😭

[@iaminsideyourwalls2021]

At least we generally know the plot of Fnaf. Purple man kills kids and stuffs their bodies into robot animals. Spirits of said kids come back and possess their robot coffins to kill Purple man. Purple man gets killed but still lives on as a zombiefied Trix the rabbit. Purple Trix the man rabbit survives getting burnt until he was lured into a restaurant along with other damaged robot furries owned by his oldest son who accidentally killed his little brother in a prank back in 1983 and who also "died" in an underground maintenance facility trying to save his little sister who was killed by a "kid-friendly" Joker robot. Undead man, with the help of Purple man's old friend, Old Sport (Henry), traps all the robots and burns everyone to a crisp, setting their souls free while Purple man gets tormented in his personal hell by one of his victims. And this still is easier to understand than whatever lore Glitchtale has.

[@CyberDucke]

@@iaminsideyourwalls2021you saved me hours of researching, thank you.

[@iaminsideyourwalls2021]

@@CyberDucke There may be some minor things I have missed like Purple man killing Old Sport's daughter Charlie but these are the main points. Also, anything after Pizza Simulator I don't consider is canon to the lore

[@Pihsrosnec]

​@@iaminsideyourwalls2021wym, I love the canon of the entire old burnt down pizzeria inexplicably showing up beneath the new location, it just makes so much sense!

[@Kasane_teto_pear]

It’s always strange to see when people are really good at animating, but horrible at drawing

[@AndrewtheAwful]

You know your AU is bad when 12 year olds can come up with a better AU then you

[@cecropiaglamour]

🤚I was the 12 year old

[@hybridvenom9]

I cannot say i'm literally making one i'm definitely going to have therapy after this but i'm finally done

[@miniwhiffy3465]

@@cecropiaglamour sorry but nobody knows who you are soo i doubt that

[@NoHatDashYT]

I probably can and I'm 13!

[@vickie-u5w]

​@@miniwhiffy3465ching

[@mochishiii]

You already know something is wrong with the series when you need to see the wiki to understand what is happening 😭😭 Edit: OMGG 1.5k?!!! I have never had so many likes in my life.

[@sergiomendoza251]

Inverted Fate had not issues with that luckly

[@gamercentral2417]

@@sergiomendoza251inverted fate is the best undertale au. Change my mind

[@Jdudec367]

I mean...I never needed that to understand the main plot of the series.

[@kcinrennat2606]

Really? I mean, I never looked at the wiki, and I feel like I understand almost everything we were meant to. It didn’t seem that complicated. Am I missing some big part show here or were you digging too deep into undertale’s magic logic?

[@PetBrickProductions]

@@gamercentral2417 I will not.

[@failedtimeline]

1:09:04 not defending it, it WAS poorly executed, but have you SEEN one of the neutral endings where Alphys dies/disappears? Papyrus says Undyne is absolutely soul crushed from it, not even having the energy to take revenge on the human, as she states that "revenge won't bring anyone back." This is something canon to the game (i think you get it by only killing Mettaton) Edit: Correction: You get it by only killing Mettaton AFTER befriending Undyne.

[@beywheelzhater8930]

Yeah a lot of neutral endings aren’t known to everyone because There are a lot My favorite is when Mettaton takes his ability of ignoring problems he does when you pull up with his house key to the nth degree, becomes a dictator that forces everyone to be happy and love his brand, and just makes anyone who speaks out against his forced vibe disappear via probably executing them offscreen out of the public eye proving that Mettaton is actually the worst leader possible

[@failedtimeline]

@@beywheelzhater8930 My favorite ones are the ones where Undyne becomes the empress of the undergroung, simply because there's so many cool things you could do with that premise

[@beywheelzhater8930]

@@failedtimeline Yeah, sad to see the only au that has gone post neutral that I've seen has been Horrortale

[@failedtimeline]

@@beywheelzhater8930 so it's based off the one where you kill all the bosses and most (but not all) monsters?

[@beywheelzhater8930]

@@failedtimeline No, Horrortale is a continuation of an Undyne neutral run, specifically the run where Toriel becomes Queen and Undyne overthrows her which is achieved by killing 10 monsters and sparing all the bosses. If you haven’t checked out the AU before, it explores the idea of the core itself shutting down and the underground falling to a famine that Undyne and Alphys can’t fix. Oddly, despite the canon neutral route featuring Sans and Papyrus living with Toriel, here they still live in snowdin with Sans joining with Alphys to try and fix the core… this doesn’t work. Eventually, Alphys desperation and Undyne’s determination leads them to use the only thing they can theorize would start back up the core and save their people: Sans’s eye. This works… until Sans somehow un-dies through yet un revealed means and ratios the entire core along with a good chunk of the royal guard and Alphys. It is definitely not exactly what one may want if they are just hoping for a neutral route, but you do see more of the warped, grief filled aggression Undyne showcased when she overthrew Toriel or when she militarized the entire underground in her own ending as she goes full tyrant.

[@lspellslogic877]

I remember starting a huge drama against myself and Camilla Cuevas around 3-5 years ago. I was a huge fan of Glitchtale and Underverse, and I watched all sorts of content from the series and the shorts any chance I'd get. This drama sparked around the time when creators made a reanimation for a particular song from Glitchtale (idk which one it was, the slowed megalovania one or etc) and a small creator had made a side by side comparison of both animations citing it as Original vs Other creator style. The video gained a lot of popularity and earned that small creator a lot of views. Camilla was upset by this (this is how I interpreted it at the time). She asked the creator in a nice way to "please delete this video. im going to make a video similar to this one and i would appreciate it if you deleted your video so I can post mine. thank you!" which imo was just fucking unreasonable as hell. I called her bs out and replied to her comment criticizing her for being so selfish, and this started a long online argument war against me vs camilla and her fans. Eventually, it got to the point where I criticized the season 2 of Glitchtale and how awful it was compared to Jael Paneloza's work (I still feel guilty abt this, that was very low of me) on Underverse. This eventually lead to Jael making a statement about the entire situation and me getting really embarrassed and ashamed of myself that I went quiet after. The creator deleted their video and I moved on with my life and avoided everything Undertale related cus of guilt and fear. Her fans had attacked my freshly growing channel and made fun of my Gacha videos, prompting me to delete each and every single one, changing my name, changing my dp name, and avoiding KZbin for a while. It's been years, I still feel guilty and embarrassed for doing that to a creator I once loved, but then I met a friend who was a popular creator and the topic got to Camilla Cuevas. She explained how awful Camilla was and was almost cancelled all the time. This made me remember what happened years ago and now I searched up her name to find stuff like this. I feel less guilty, and I hope that small creator gets the justice they deserved.

[@rididoundertale]

Man, I'm so sorry for you... i hope you're doing ok.

[@UrNansAFish360]

I really loved Glitchtale as a kid. Doesn’t hold up as much looking back on it but it still holds a special place with me. I will say one thing that always pissed me off was how Camilla killed off Sans, spent all this time trying to revive him, only to kill him again completely pointlessly.

[@LyanBr]

Exacly

[@sapphirestar3978]

yeah. its the only show that didnt have plot armor. It was realistic but painful how many characters died in that series.

[@freecom1917]

As much as I dislike unnecessary plot armor, bringing back Sans just to kill him off immediately was not executed well plotwise. Well, as much as Glitchtale's plot went

[@lukeseaman2994]

@@freecom1917 What is wrong with you lmao

[@szalyn8849]

@@freecom1917 my guy I don't think it's good to write spoilers for the manga in a place like this as it may spoil people that are anime-only or are looking to get into the series. I think that deleting the comment would be neat as you keep in mind all of these people that don't know yet. Cheers

[@DeltaBlazin]

Glitchtale Villains be like: The virgin Betty - Mary Sue - Inconsistent af - kills sans for only shock value and kills alphys so that undyne can be straight for an oc - Literally just "teehee cute girl that's actually evil >:3" which is fucking stupid - Had small moments of good just to still be a bitch - Not even the true antagonist - Was literally born because Agate was a petty racist bitch Vs The Chad Chara - Actually has more dimension and a good backstory - Not a mary sue while still being very powerful - An actual tragic villain when you realize that Chara was forced to watch Frisk reset and kill, taking in the hatred of everyone they knew and loved along with their own hatred until they went coo coo for cocoa puffs and almost completely lost themselves. - Redeemed themselves in the end which is actually pretty heartwarming and gives their brother a second chance at life before meeting their own end.

[@matttale7918]

A plot hole I don’t see mentioned often is how, considering Asriels soul has the determination of the the six human souls + Chara’s from season one, in addition to his own determination as Flowey, he should in theory have taken over the timeline, yet we see that’s not the case in season 2

[@dataroaming7512]

If I remember Chara just gave him the shell of his soul which was then filled with the other traits, so it's actually not so certain.

[@matttale7918]

@@dataroaming7512 I suppose so, but the traits that Chara had were given to them due to the determination of the human souls, which in and of itself is a bit strange. So what I’m getting at is, if Chara gave Asriel the traits to inhabit the soul, then that should also have given him the combined determination of the souls.

[@expertarcher8542]

@@matttale7918In the omega flowey fight, he uses the ability to save and load so, in theory, he’d have control of the timeline, yet he doesn’t. Now maybe arguements could be made about how Determination works with it but it is still a possibility.

[@interpretation_is_key]

@@expertarcher8542 The 6 human souls were used to break the barrier. The traits Chara gave Asriel were just small essences of the human souls that he extracted from the amalgamates

[@interpretation_is_key]

I don't support what Camila did, but I feel this video pokes most of it's holes from questions with answers given directly from Camila. A lot of fiction has their viewers draw their own conclusion to the mysteries surrounding their story (Witch in my opinion is what made me enjoy Undertale/Deltarune so much). But if you try to find a definitive answer to everything, it can drive you nuts (Much like what happend with FNaF)

[@antisocial_youtuber]

44:23 THAT'S A POLICE UNIFORM?! I THOUGHT THEY WERE FUCKING PAJAMAS 😭

[@-zuzur0ll712]

HOLY FUCKING SHIT... 28:45 I KNEW THAT WAS TRACED!! i called her out on her comment section once saying a certain frame looked so similar to a scene in violet evergarden because i saw it in an MV once back in 2018, and then she replied to my comment (mind you, like, half an hour later, and the comment had absolutely no likes) calling me a "brat" and that she was only "taking inspiration", AND SHE MADE A WHOLE DAMN VIDEO ABOUT IT 😭 glad she's finally called out i remember i was like a huge glitchtale fan back then so i replied to her reply like "omggg im so sorryyyy i was just saying it looked rlly similar!! soso sorry" like 12 yr old me holding back tears bc my favorite animator called me a brat 💀 now that im grown i realized girl's a huge freakazoidddd

[@danaa-]

Freakazoid? That bitch is a straight up sociopath, fuck ego trips, she goes on ego pilgrimages, shes a proven pedo, she emotionally abused her younger audience, her happiness is litterally fueled by the tears of children

[@DarkStar755]

I'm sorry you went through that

[@caniaskyoukindofaweirdques7053]

That was really shitty of her. Thankfully, she can’t hide or deflect how much of a bad person she is nowadays.

[@BelBelle468]

One of the most bittersweet things I like to read are stories about kids being hurt by other ppl (esp older ppl) and then growing up to realize they did nothing wrong and it was the other party who was. Bitter cuz the kids went through that, but happy when they grow up to realize they were mistreated and look down upon those mean ppl.

[@andy6201]

yoo, ive also been put on blast by some creators before, and its so painful seeing the person you idiolise insulting you in front of everyone. why do they even do that??? they can probably sort out the issue somewhere in private like discord or smth, but no, they want they approval of their glazer fanbase to assurre them that they are in the right. i once commented on an anime editors community post, and idk why but it looked like that person was kinda being biased about something so i called them out on it, and mf made a whole ass community post screen shotting my comment and saying "yall just like to hate on anything huh" or smth like that. childish shit like this is so infuriating my god. its like when your bantering with youre friends and you tease one guy a bit and he goes ad calls his dad and he tells your mom to beat your ass. people are legit snowflakes my god

[@srkami9608]

I think the main reason of Camila's failures on this series is the fact that she was into stick fights. You can see that the line of thought that the story should exist only in order to make the fights more interesting (and not vice versa, as most stories work) is a consequence of this era of her work. This is shown on her inconsistent plot, characters and her bad scenarios too, as most stick animations also have little to no scenario.

[@nathanpierce7681]

glitchtale's new animation is cool and all but there is literally no beating the nemesis collabs. six shooter playing while jade slaughtered her way through an entire base was so peak...

[@DoctorBones1]

Honestly i wouldnt have an issue with that if the plot was cookie cutter enough to get to the next fight since i dont think you need a deep plot to have an enjoyable show, that would have been the case if glitchtale actually *had* good fight scenes

[@German_Empire-71]

Wdym glitchtale failed it didn’t cuz the show was able to get a fanbase

[@dehydratedair]

ive seen RHG before and the most lore you got was usually a minor background (take resh’s character for example, umbrella, hes a hitman with a cool umbrella and radiation poisoning that got kidnapped, mindwiped, and got his family killed, thats it)

[@nathanpierce7681]

@@dehydratedair yes its a mnior background, however it's about how it's executed and how it IMPACTS the fights going forwards i honestly don't think we ever got a cameo of jade's parents. contrast that with umbrella's backstory affecting every animation with him

[@moontcb]

I remember during a livestream Camila got very mad at people thinking papyrus’ right eye glowed orange, and she was like “when you invert sans’ blue eye it’s red”, like she was so pissed about it I remember her talking about it on multiple occasions, even though in undertale there are blue and orange indicators…

[@trouslinabone]

To be fair, I hate it when people make his eye orange... It should be blue. He uses fucking blue magic and is the first person to use it on you.

[@SiohSix]

​@@trouslinaboneif you mean soul wise,yes he is the first,but magic wise like bones or weapons,no he is not,doggo would have been the first as you encounter him in snowdin forest and he uses blue magic on you to test if someone is there Though i could be dumb,i havent watched a playthough in a while

[@moontcb]

@@trouslinabone valid lol

[@trouslinabone]

@@SiohSix You're right, but I meant thw soul! And Papyrus is supposedly the "master" of blue magic.

[@lunarbeetl3]

@@trouslinabonePap’s could be a darker blue while sans has a more lighter blue/yellow eye. :D

[@Proxy606]

Glitchtale isn’t objectively bad, it just went off the undertale aspect and became a self written story with some undertale characters that more or less got written off with a ending that makes Disney look like a well written story … Ok, maybe it is objectively bad…

[@RommekePommeke]

Okay even if you remove the Undertale from it, it still becomes a bad story with so many plot holes.

[@anthonynixon3706]

Not objectively bad. Its just bad

[@user-re8tc1dg3b]

Can we actually talk about how Jessica was somehow made into a positive character despite how she started off 1 being racist, 2 wanted betty to commit RACIAL GENOCIDE???

[@user-re8tc1dg3b]

@Noname-mi1oo these 2 have the privilage of being able to reverse their actions

[@zachbatsford]

because villains somtiems are just FUCKING EVIL FUCK THEM HAVING A TRAGIC BACKSTORY I WANT THIS TO BE EVIL CUZ THEY ARE! jessica had reason Betty from what I could tell didnt

[@JGT-yd2wx]

It's like the reverse of Jane crocker

[@yunarukam-bae8944]

Damn that must have been some really good character development to lead to this turn of events - oh... Oh.. they had none of that.

[@reggielacey2235]

And that's a bad thing?

[@potatopotato3284]

Camila has said before that she doesn't really like Toriel or Alphys in Undertale and it's soo blatant in this series. Kills Alphys to make Undyne more angsty. Has characters like Frisk, Gaster, and Asgore be throw shade at Toriel for mistakes in her past, and she never has anything to say back, she just takes it. How most characters in this series were treated annoyed me but Toriel and Alphys in particular irked me.

[@theauditor3224]

i mean their kinda..odd...characters to say the least. I mean if we really boil it down. Toriel is no better than asgore. i mean she let the kingdom go to ruins even tho she ALONE could have stopped asgore and alphys is a liar that manipulated us just so she could feel powerful and useful. Shes every shutin weeb personified

[@jaydajuvenile2631]

all characters who have no right to diss toriel

[@potatopotato3284]

@@theauditor3224 Hey that's cool. I agree with Toriel and Alphys being morally questionable in UT too. I just didn't like how it felt like those 2 characters in particular were dumped on by the writing of GT. Not like other characters had it much better, but it felt like they were given more of a pass for their actions than these 2, so it really felt like what happened to Alphys/ how Toriel was treated was very much based on Camila's negative opinion of them. Though this is just MY opinion so feel free to disagree :)

[@thatoneguy609]

@@jaydajuvenile2631​​⁠​⁠​⁠​⁠There’s plenty of valid stuff to diss Toriel on; the characters have all made mistakes but not the exact _same_ mistakes. My issue is more about characters behaving in-character. There’s no way in hell Asgore would ever _throw shade_ at anyone, let alone at Toriel. His personality is way too meek for that.

[@anonbefallen4807]

Eh Characters standing up for Asgore and pointing out Toriel's own shit rather than just letting her wail on Asgore is one of the few things I still like about glitchtale. Granted, Toriel should've been given the opportunity to defend herself. What she did with Alphys though was just all kinds of wack

[@robertkovarna8294]

Why do I get the feeling Camilia probably only did the Chara thing because people at the time were starting to not see Chara as a murderous crazy kid and they felt the need to go "See. See. I can portray them as such too." while not fully thinking about what they were doing with it?

[@KawaiiJammy]

also because people always were asking for a betty vs chara fight, and she always said no look where it ended now

[@robertkovarna8294]

Wait? You mean she said no to bringing back Chara for it, brought back Chara anyway, hyping them up as the one who has to do it cause like Frisk, they have Determination... then don't even do so at all?@@KawaiiJammy

[@KawaiiJammy]

@@robertkovarna8294 yes...

[@robertkovarna8294]

What kind of logic even is that? What you're telling me is that Chara was forced back in, not just because the perception of them was changing, but because people wanted it, and Glitchtale couldn't even do that? It just.. had to ignore what it was saying and give the win to the void skeleman?@@KawaiiJammy

[@ihatelaptops3]

@@KawaiiJammyWym by "look how it ended now"? Im not being rude, just... confused in what you mean. I'd like some explanation on that...

[@NatalieNatNat3]

WHEN I FIRST WATCHED GLITCHTALE I SAW THE TRUCK. THE TRUCK HIT THE SIDE OF THE CAR BUT WHEN YOU ZOOM OUT THERES A MOUNTAIN THERE. WHAT HAPPENED TO THE TRUCK? WHY DIDNT THE TRUCK FALL OFF WITH THE CAR? WAS THE STREET ON TOP OF A MOUNTAIN? WHY IS THERE ZERO RAILING OR SAFETY ON THE SIDE OF A FREAKING CLIFF?

[@anezuka2464]

Camila also constantly makes fun of her fans asking if she's gonna post new episodes yet, basically when she's streaming, a fan once asked about her animation and she gets defensive.

[@erihtea0719]

Fuck Cami, but I think that's justified to a degree since she seems to work harder than someone like Yandev. Maybe things have changed but I was there back when she livestreamed her process on Glitchtale. She was relatively consistent and that's all I'll give her.

[@DeltaBlazin]

Btw she's so mean to her fans that she made a joke animation that had all the things the fans wanted in it, like sans suddenly coming back to life and chara stabbing betty, and she's all like "haha now you know why this is stupid" as if the fucking official ending is better!! How is the JOKE conflict resolve better than one that she put effort into?

[@clockworkcat8576]

Tbf that was because her fans were obnoxious as shit cause they were all kids back then. Nowadays It's not as understandable

[@DrawciaGleam02]

@@DeltaBlazin Dang! That takes some balls!!!

[@angryboi595]

@@erihtea0719 no not literally. She could literally just say “oh I’ll ye y’all’s when it’s ready” or “I’m making it rn” or “oh here’s a idea of when it’s coming out”. No need for rudenessw

[@AreesDaOG]

"Mistakes can never be forgiven in Camilla's eyes." She must hate herself

[@Ainavol_sans]

"EMOTIONAL DAMAGEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE"

[@SegaUnofficialAccount]

THAT IS ONE [amazing joke] FOR MY [poster of memes] THAT YOU CAN PURCHASE AT [hyperlink blocked]

[@scarwkat]

team fire *on*

[@somniphobic_sight]

bro.

[@firdanharbima6997]

​@@scarwkat wait that thing is a teammate? I already on my 25 killstreak!

[@allinory]

When I was a kid, Camila used to really piss me off with the fact that she had this really neat (as it looked to me at the time) and fancyass coloring style, but she put zero skill points into her anatomy, and especially hands in her drawings absolutely sucked. And I felt like I was going insane bc everyone was praising her and stuff, but to me the drawings looked so bad for that very reason

[@gentle_moonjellies3272]

THISSS!! I could never watch glitchtale because I could not STAND the shitty anatomy and ugly animations, but I'm glad to learn that I wasn't the only person who thought that way about it. Maybe this is just a me thing, but I seriously can't enjoy a show with an art style I don't really like, no matter how popular it is. (Think Dragon Ball, Naruto, Avatar, etc. - all super popular, but have an old-ass art style and bald main characters) If the art had been better, I probably wouldn't have even been aware of the awful plot until I was older, or until the evidence was dropped directly in my lap- but even looking at the THUMBNAILS for glitchtale has me full-body cringing.

[@theomegastorm798]

Come to think of it maybe it wasn't a good idea to *try* improve at art using Cami's art as a main reference

[@allinory]

​@@theomegastorm798 oh no, that definitely wouldn't have been...

[@qingqueingtime]

Glitchtale affected my art style in the worst ways possible because for a while i kept doing these snout side profiles and it was horrid. So glad i moved on from that.

[@justseffstuff3308]

@@gentle_moonjellies3272I liked some parts of it, the fights were fun to watch as a kid, but it was VERY difficult to watch.

[@chameleoncove]

Apparently, Season 2 is basically "MarySueTale."

[@Uncrea-b9h]

betty regenerating constantly was because her true form being revealed would mean coming up with a unique monster design, which would take effort

[@sekkzion]

It’s so easy to come up designs for Betty's true form, though. The Control Animation Meme displayed Betty's true form and honestly, it's a pretty solid design.

[@anonbefallen4807]

Not to play devils advocate, but I think that's a little disingenuous

[@izzlebadizzle3792]

Just adding my two cents. Jessica was the worst. She was a bad mother. She neglected her child. Then we are supposed to think she is a victim? She was poorly written and I was upset when she got a 'good' ending after dying. Idk. It all made me mad

[@EJKMuffin]

she sucked but clearly regretted it, what did you want, for her to burn in hell for all eternity over a (admittedly pretty bad) mistake? Yall are gonna hate me for this :/ Go read the Bible and get right with God. No one deserves hell except the dude that created it and his name is Satan and he ain't you.

[@drascia]

I genuinely liked Jessica, but looking back maybe I just liked her dynamic with Gaster (Def shipped them lmao). She was also literally the only OC aside from Betty who had significant screen time, so it could've partially been that too.

[@EJKMuffin]

@@drascia LOL i kinda shipped them too

[@izabela4801]

​@@drascia I shipped them too lol

[@doomclasher9287]

​@@drascia While I in the end never really liked her, I did aknowledge that she did have a revitalization, a character arc, a redemption arc, and that she did change for the better. I don't think it made up for her unjustified actions, but at least it shows that one can change from such a negative mindset

[@drascia]

In retrospect, the most absurd thing about the pink Soul is the fact that the color is supposed to be representative of the Soul's trait. Like Betty should be a cowardly lion, but instead she's able to tap into other people's fears? That doesn't add up. The Kindness Soul, for example, doesn't make others kind; the Soul itself is kind and therefore the _carrier_ is kind. So why is the Fear Soul different? (Of course the answer is obvious: Fuck me for wanting to know)

[@JacobCooper-in9tc]

A possible answer could be that the souls trait rubs off on people. Like if you hang out with people with kindness souls there kindness could make you also be kind to others if that makes sense? Though if that was the case it’d be nice to have that told

[@alves5419]

Im guessing because those inverse souls use HATE, which also empowers the user. It would be kind of odd if they just became a scaredy cat, I guess

[@eleonorepb4565]

Fear is not a normal trait, Betty is nor human nor monster and she is born as a result of Agatha's fear, her fear of monsters, litteraly xenophobia

[@Midacidguy]

I don't think it's a case of Betty not having fear, I think it's more of a case of Betty not showing it. Because if you're afraid and as arrogant as Agate likely is, you would not want to show any fear, as you wouldn't want to be seen as weak. This causes them to harm and scare others, quite a bit like a bully works. As for what she's afraid of, it could be quite a few things. If Betty is Agate, then she could be afraid of not being in control, which is pretty much the entire reason why Agate inverts her trait in the first place (She was not in control of the state of the barrier). She could also be afraid of Frisk/Chara, since they remind her of Copper, someone who was able to beat her. Also, if Betty is Amber, then she would likely be very afraid as she is traumatized when her own sister whom she trusted murdered her in cold blood. But she wouldn't show that because their fear has transformed them. This is similar to what happened to Flowey, as he couldn't feel emotions, perhaps because he was soulless, but also because he has all the trauma he experienced as Asriel, on top of the trauma of the 6 humans (that's where the determination injected into him came from). But hey, that's just a theory. I probably put more thought into that than Camila actually did. Thank you for bothering to read this, anyone that actually does.

[@drascia]

@@Midacidguy this is really well thought out and def worth the read.

[@denissoide]

Is there any characters in glitchtale that doesn't have a bowl cut?

[@smt64productions40]

Characters with no hair

[@benjaminfricke4791]

I really think (one of the many) fundamental problem(s) is as follows: Undertale is a story that really *only* works as a video game. When you take characters like Flowey and Sans (let alone Chara), who were *heavily* tied to the game’s meta-commentary and put them into a combat-centered animation series, they just don’t work. Let’s just focus on Flowey: in the game, Flowey was, in large part, a commentary on the nature of being a “player” in a video game, and how experiencing that game over and over eventually leads to a near-total loss of investment. Placed in another medium, he’s… a sadistic, time-traveling flower whose primary contribution to the story is being a convenient visual metaphor. I hope my point is clear. This was a bad premise for a story from the very beginning.

[@KaihighOG]

How to fix this: constant allusions to "someone watching", and how everything that's happening is because "someone" finds it entertaining. Wrap it back around to the "Player" and turn them into "Watcher", who's ravenous thirst for action is fueling the terrible occurrences within the universe, with the only people able to see the Watcher being Sans, Flowey, Chara, and possibly Betty because her actions are influenced by the Watcher's own emotions.

[@PolarNitaIsTired]

​@@KaihighOG and the best part, taking consideration that it all started by people asking for the animations to have a continuation, it would fit perfectly with glitchtale if it had that included

[@rodrigonogueira9375]

I mean, underverse takes that concept and adapts it to a series really well. Instead of being a game about being a game, its a show about making/manipulating alternative universes, just like the ones the fandom did. It takes the meta concept of the game and adapts it to the whole fandom that formed around it, which is pretty genius imo.

[@benjaminfricke4791]

@@rodrigonogueira9375 Yes, I would agree. Underverse also made a good decision in having a new main antagonist who was highly relevant to its new themes. So yeah, it’s not impossible to do well, but it is extremely difficult. You will notice, after all, that the main characters of Underverse are either original to the story (X-Tale), or otherwise separate from the original game (Ink & Error).

[@crumpscrumbs]

As a writer myself, I never want to believe a premise is inherently flawed, as I'd like to believe any story could work given the right care. Then again... that kind of implies Undertale could only work as a video game, since in that context "video game" could be seen as the "right care". Wow... I have to think about this a little...

[@sigmameal648]

This tale was SO bad that even Camila makes Sonic. Exe have better lore while the WHOLE plot like to sonic. Exe is just revolved around killing. 💀

[@WhirlyBeepBoops]

Why can I not escape that darned edge-hog...

[@sergiomendoza251]

Ouch and Inverted Fate was so much better then that

[@sigmameal648]

@@WhirlyBeepBoops you will never escape 😈

[@sigmameal648]

@@sergiomendoza251 yeah!!

[@hybridvenom9]

Just starts more tracing a season 6 of mha that is mid i do not care i finally drop the show right there i'm never watching it again

[@screw_a_username7491]

While you were talking about the backgrounds, I didn’t think it was gonna be that bad until you pointed out the lack of care in them. It made me believe that I could do better backgrounds, which… says a lot

[@unicorn_xxx3424]

yeah

[@QuicksilverTheElegant]

I hate doing backgrounds (mostly because I haven’t practiced enough) but even I could draw something like the ancient house where Betty hangs out with more character and personality than ‘triangle and square’ lmao

[@ryomahoshi4529]

I mean,I can't draw backgrounds either,it is as bad as Camila,but at least I don't try to make a full fledged story with tons of bg knowing I don't know how to do them

[@angryboi595]

Literally the entirety of season 1 and half of season 2 is spent in a gray box 😭

[@SelfDrivingBagel]

ryth pfp jumpscare also yeah, same lmao

[@ScuttleBugReal]

Haven’t watched the video yet but all I saw glitchtale as long ago was a series about someone’s OC single-handedly soloing the entire Undertale cast

[@marineconquest4942]

remember when she killed off alphys for NOTHING but shock value

[@cedrolenon]

Local artist kill a butch fish lizard girlfriend because it was to gay

[@D0NTHEMAN]

yeah it was just so random lmaoo

[@AlphaHaze]

​@@cedrolenon it's like Disney to The Owl House lmao 😭

[@Kalam1ty._]

It was so random and forgettable that I forgot her death even happened. And only HER death 💀

[@kozolith2121]

​@@AlphaHaze disney didn't even shorten the owl house cuz of the lgbtq+ characters (otherwise they wouldn't have greenlit the show as it is in the first place), it was only because it was a more serialized show rather than episodic (meaning the episodes are meant to be watched in order otherwise you'd have no idea what's going on, meanwhile with episodic shows the episodes are more standalone and you don't have to watch them in order because not much changes between episodes)

[@medicmist]

Glitchtale should've just stayed as just characters fighting each other. No need for plot, perfect excuse to just animate the fighting without worrying about story or stuff. The end

[@FireyDeath4]

Exactly. If your primary intention is to have epic fights, don't indignify your work with an embarrassing plot because you feel the need to justify and rationalise all the events that are going on. Just show us all the awesome things your silly OCs can do

[@Emmariscobar]

​@@FireyDeath4 You would think someone who got their start making stick figure fights would get that but apparently not...

[@AlphaHaze]

@@Emmariscobar at least Alan Becker got it right 😎

[@FireyDeath4]

@@AlphaHaze Well, at least Alan Becker's plots are sweet and simple. Still a few holes, but it's very clear with what it's trying to communicate

[@AlphaHaze]

@@FireyDeath4 fr and that's why I'm subbed to him :D

[@itibiti7459]

Love how they killed off the MAIN CHARACTER to give the role to a literal Mary sue

[@RushWheeler]

Technically the main villain because swapping Frisk and Chara did nothing but make the lore more confusing. Betty was completely random, and if Cami really wanted a surface villain, she could have just made it a remnant of Chara from the genocide route. It would have made perfect sense too, seeing as the timeline's already glitched and causing crazy things to happen.

[@nyes4596]

How is Chara a Mary Sue though? He has make mistakes in past, literally was evil, and has a personality.

[@RyangMari]

It’s more frustrating that the ending of the series doesn’t even acknowledge the swap, like what was that all for?

[@AlphaHaze]

@@nyes4596 I also thought it was Chara at first, but they're actually talking about Betty 👀

[@itibiti7459]

@@nyes4596 dog, they say everything bad Chara did was Frisks fault 💀and they have 0 character development