High Rise MTB Bars? 35/40mm Pros & Cons Explained

[@WorldwideCyclery]

What rise handlebars do you prefer?

[@meirsnyder3460]

15mm

[@felixklimm7225]

35mm

[@lirART-id1cb]

I put bmx Bars on my bike and use spacers to fit them in the stem. It's really compfortable. Everybody should do that

[@zaca3673]

40

[@toneloke7489]

-35mm

[@tommiesturkenboom3862]

Recently went to 35 mil rise from 10 in combination with a 35 mil stem instead of 50, jumping and rough downhill became much more stable!

[@isaaclopez5004]

What about your reach, my stumpjumper already has a short reach did you notice a difference?

[@dansteadman2528]

oooooo good to know. Been thinking about a handlebar upgrade from my 10mm rise al bar and i mostly ride downhill

[@tommiesturkenboom3862]

freeholeless50 tv yeah combined you do definitely notice that there is a bit less room between the seat and cockpit, and a overall more upright seating position. I’ve compensated a bit by sliding my sadle a bit more to the back!

[@akabukiman]

I think you could have saved a lot of money trying some spacers first - at least if your steerer tube isn't cut down too much.

[@darwinwagaman6576]

I have done exactly the same & popping the front wheel up is so much easier. Much less effort when obstacles are close together & as you say the stability is well improved.

[@Serial-hobbyist]

I really liked the freeze frame comparison shots to demonstrate the affect different rise bars have on a riders body position. Great video!

[@drewbarton3364]

Can I just say that from a purely OCD perspective, I was immediately VERY pleased that you were perfectly centered between the shelves

[@sumoneskid]

I got a bike fit this year, where they put me on a slammed stem. I also got some pointers from a coach, who preaches dropping your chin and chest closer to the bars when descending for better control. Both completely contradicted what I though I knew about bikes. Basically I've been told, if you are flexible enough to drop your front end, its a benefit for both climbing and descending. I don't pretend to be in tune with my bike enough to know what works best, nor do I suggest I know what I'm talking about. But I just wanted to throw a wrench into the conversation and say there are different schools of thought on this! I always appreciate the videos Jeff! If I didn't get stung with duty buying products from the States, I'd be on your site all the time.

[@catg9196]

You should experiment with spacers on bottom of the stem. You’d be surprised how much easier it is to pull up on the bars when descending.

[@mikeschneider4274]

That guy must be an XC racer or road racer. When descending, you need to get back behind your seat. It's way easier to get back when you don't start off leaning forward, not to mention how much easier it is to hop big stuff.

[@sumoneskid]

@@mikeschneider4274 I know where you're coming from. That was my exact mentality too. New age coaching preach get low, instead of get back on the steeps. You might throw your hips back for a half second through a hole or off a drop, but keeping your elbows bent & hips over the saddle is a more active position. It's taken me a summer to start to get comfortable with it. I don't have any great videos/examples to recommend, but check out some DH and enduro racing. They'll be going faster through the steeps than I ever will, and you won't see straight arms or the ass off the back wheel.

[@Ethanh734]

I never considered stem spacers affecting reach. Thanks for the insight.

[@CoreySchmick444]

Another thing that you can do, which is what I just did, is moving the position of my bars in regards to rotation. I got a Giant Trance 29 and it has Contact bars with 20mm rise which is pretty normal. The handlebars felt a little weird compared to my hardtail setup. I noticed that the bars were slanted back and down, and I was going to get riser bars, then I decided just to rotate them "forward" in the stem. I don't know how it was supposed to be stock, but everything now lines up better, even the little stickers that tell you the specs about the bars. My bars now flare up and don't feel as cramped in the cockpit. I don't know if this is "kosher" or there will be any negative effects, but it feels a lot better. This video sure does a better job than the others on KZbin as to the reasons why you would want to change your setup, kudos Jeff.

[@jamieknight326]

Super useful video. I have a spinal cord injury which has effected my core strength. Getting a levo and swapping bars and spacers has made it possible for me to ride again :)

[@raheemgahelable]

40mm Renthal FatBar carbon 35 with 3 spacers under my stem, and I'll never look back 🤘🤘

[@finkelmann]

That Renthal is so flippin stiff- easily the most painful bar i've owned (and a few of my friends feel the same). I ended up swapping mine out, was just too sore after any aggressive trail.

[@raheemgahelable]

@@finkelmann are you talking about the aluminum version?

[@finkelmann]

@@raheemgahelable nope. I get along with their aluminium bars. Its the carbon ones that broke me :) Btw, check out oneup's stiffness/compliance test chart. Renthal was indeed the least compliant, which reassured what i was feeling.

[@raheemgahelable]

@@finkelmann huh! Interesting though. I've the opposite experience with my carbon 35 Renthal. My friend got the same version aluminum, and it felt " harsh" a little on my elbow and shoulders. OneUp makes good one and it has good reviews.., also, the durability of the Renthal carbon is pretty amazing though.

[@UltimateMTB]

@@finkelmann I feel the same way, my fatbar 35 carbon bars feel extremely stiff, im definitely switching back to alloy on my next bike.

[@brianhely3910]

Love WWC videos like this so much, just got another riser bar. I also think the trend of risers is due to dropper posts being prolific, and encouraging people to actually climb at the highest optimal point, hence makes sense to bring bars up too... But yeah as you said Jeff there's a lot of factors, also you said intergalactic cycling association, total paradigm shift, then a hair cut mid video, next level

[@battistaverardi1240]

That Yeti at 2:05 is amazing! I would take that bike over any " new age " one in a heart beat!!! Somethings are never meant to change. The geometry and feel of that style of frame is second to none!! I have ridden new and older and I always go back to this design!

[@firstgatetuber]

I have that model or close to it. 92 Yeti Arc. I might sell it soon if you're interested.

[@battistaverardi1240]

@@firstgatetuber what is the frame material?

[@firstgatetuber]

@@battistaverardi1240 Aluminum.

[@battistaverardi1240]

@@firstgatetuber but which type of aluminum? 7005 or 6061?

[@firstgatetuber]

@@battistaverardi1240 not sure but it's the Easton aluminum. Shoot me a DM and I can send you photos.

[@alexlogan9279]

My wife and I are running 50mm rise Spank Spike bars and love them.

[@passionwithouttalent5894]

Got those too and they've been nice and comfy. Plus I'm childish and it's funny to me when paired with my Funn headset it reads as spank funn

[@thearoom]

I got those ready to go on... How are they around flat fast turns though? Do you guys ride fast or casual?

[@passionwithouttalent5894]

@@thearoom I'm not fast but don't notice a difference between a riser ad a flat bar except the riser is more comfortable so I ride with that little more confidence

[@speedikat6822]

Old skool cat here. That's the best explanation of bar types and what they do that I've seen to date. The only aspect that I'd differ on is riser bars being a recent trend. Folks were talking about it in the late '90s too.

[@borthwey]

If only things were as simple as you put them here... From my experience with a 29” bike with a 170mm fork, and coming from a long period with 26” bikes, I felt great with a zero rise bar and zero spacers on top of a flat headset. And this had nothing to do with how steep the terrain was. The factor that matters in that regard is stem length, and with a 31mm stem the fear of going over the bars was non-existent. I have been trying other setups more recently, including having the bar 40mm higher, and confirming that. I get no more confidence from a higher bar. Besides, the ability to pedal with a higher bar is not reduced, but increased. This is because even though the reach is reduced with more spacers, the rider area distance, that is, the distance from the bottom bracket to the grips, is increased. This is actually the true “reach”, more than the horizontal reach that only takes one dimension into consideration. Your rider area becomes more spacious whether you use a handlebar with more rise or raise the stem. Now, the thing about bar height for me is how much weight do you want your arms to support. I feel good bearing more weight on the arms and feel that I can control the front better. You’re riding more like a four legged animal, and with a higher bar you’re more “bipedal”. The “attack” ability is not influenced by this, though. So what is influenced? That is the question that I’ve been trying to answer. A more upright ride is less active, so one might become less tired, but I also miss that “action”. The mechanics are different, the way of working with the bike is different. Riding more upright is a bit “plainer” but I’ll try it a bit more to see if I get used to it because I like the increased rider area distance.

[@Rev_John_Danger]

I run a slammed 35mm stem, 80mm rise Deity bars, and a 150mm Yari on my San Quentin and it’s perfect for me. I’m 5’9.5” with a long torso and short legs. I ride trails in Texas so mostly flat/ flowy stuff with jumps and features. I love it.

[@jared_erickson]

I usually run a 20mm rise bar, but I do like the riding position of the higher rise bar... maybe I will try a 35mm rise next time!

[@rolux4853]

Go for it! I recently changed from a nearly flat Thompson Ti bar to a high rise sq labs bar. Also I got the shortest Renthal stem available for better maneuverability. The riding position got so much more comfortable and I’m way more confident on the bike! Even while ascending, but I guess that comes from the massive 16 deg backsweep of the SQ Labs bar. It gives me so much more power over the front of my bike, since my arm and shoulder position is now perfectly aligned. It almost feels like cheating! The only thing I regret, is that I haven’t discovered this earlier. From now on all my bikes will get the SQ Labs bars with the most backsweep and rise. I can’t believe I’ll say this, but the upgrades bars made more difference then getting a new fork. The level of control I gained is just insane. Someone who never tried such a „extreme“(considered by many in the bike industry) backsweep and a little higher rise won’t believe it. Now just a few more degrees of upsweep would be the next good step in the right direction.

[@joshuadoss1955]

No other KZbin channel I sub to. Makes me laugh more consistently than yours Love the humor Oh yeah and that sweet sweet free info

[@zaca3673]

I’ve been waiting for this video from any channel for so long thanks guys

[@geoffsimons1235]

Great explanation of how spacers vs rise affects reach,thanks

[@eddieeaves4390]

Just switched to a Raceface Respond with 1/2” rise, significant feel over flat bar.

[@RiddleKingOnline]

9:00 'Spacers vs high-rise' just answered all my questions and changed my life. I am 177cm, i.e. right between medium and large but larges are too big and spacers on my medium feel cramped. High rise will change everything.

[@juliog907]

That’s the reason I lifted the front end because lower back pain,170 fork and a 40 renthal bar.my rides are usually 8-10 miles and that helped lots.

[@alanhassall]

I am 5'7" with a 26" inseam. My arms are short too so I wanted a high rise bar with the desire to roll the bar back some combined with a 35mm stem. I also replaced the standard aluminum fork on my bike with the carbon fiber fork of the more expensive model. The bike is a little older so the fork was available at a discount. I cut it for a few more spacers, but was warned not to go to crazy with spacers. It turned out that my bike had come with a 40mm rise bar so the new bar only made a difference in that it was wider. I ended up going back to the original bar because I was worried about putting a bar end though one of my knees in a crash.

[@mtbrider8286]

I didn't notice the hair, but I did catch the NICA mix up. I'm a MTB coach through NICA in Oregon and it's amazing what all they do for getting kids on bikes, setting up races, and encouraging them to push themselves.

[@Shralps]

I went from a 15 to a 30. Front end wonders like crazy on the climbs now. 15mm makes a big difference...

[@69indigoblue]

In my opinion 15mm is only in your head...but just my 2c...

[@boxmtbing9390]

Nice videos! You might also want to mention "sweep" in this video (seeing how much some of these rise bar sweep back at the grips at the 10:00 min mark). I alleviated a lot of hand numbness by rotating my rise bar in the clamp and moving that sweep position to a more natural hand position for me.

[@chadrector4168]

Crazy huge help!! I'm 44 and have been out of the sport for awhile. Buying/building my first trail full sus and I have a bad lower back, this helped me decide exactly how to set it up! Thanks Jeff!

[@ibby81ae]

What rise did you go with?

[@chadrector4168]

@@ibby81ae I went with a 40mm huge help!!

[@ibby81ae]

Yeah I'm 40 now and back always kills after a days ride. Any brand recommendations?

[@chadrector4168]

@@ibby81ae I went with renthal but there are a ton of good ones

[@MrAntec300]

I feel beginners, like me, who uses their bike for commuting are more used to an upright position. Great video explaining the pros/cons!

[@dreamseelive]

I’m running the PNW range bars now on my trek x-caliber and I love them. Makes my shoulders feel more comfortable because there is more space to spread my arms out.

[@Striveon247]

What size stem are you using

[@dreamseelive]

@@Striveon247 PNW 50mm stem. This one to be exact... www.pnwcomponents.com/products/range-stem-v3

[@jokermtb]

been running a 30mm rise Spank Vibrocore since 2019 (on a gt sensor )! Just put a 60mm rise spank bar on my spesh jump bike ...... It's the way to go.....you can always bend your elbows to get the weight over the front end, but higher rise bars are so much more comfortable for plain ol' mountain biking. And if you like to play off of all those fun features on trails, being upright makes it so much more fun

[@andyginther8562]

That was helpful, great job man. Very uplifting.

[@inkrider95]

I love my 30mm rise bars they help with back fatigue as you mentioned but also they help me with less wrist fatigue, great video..

[@reallybigphilly]

I am considering high rise bars not for climbing or descending, but to better fit my overall body position. I am 6'6", and while saddle height is usually no issue, bar height is not adjustable and usually laid out for someone in the middle of the frame size's target audience (where I am on the extreme end). Meaning that I am - at least in theory - leaning forward more than would be recommended for a recreational rider like myself. Did a bikefit with my new fullsus recently with a physical therapist, and we found my handlebars were about 30-40mm lower than they should be. But as with most things, instead of focusing on a single metric the overall system must be considered, and despite the somewhat low handlebar we did conclude that my CoG was nicely above the bottom bracket, so the first order of business is to get some long-ish rides in. If I get a sore back, we need to add a riser bar.

[@gaboleo94]

i dont know why i havent seen this video before; this is like all i needed to know thank you.

[@absterama]

Super helpful, everything is falling into place now--thank you! I rented a demo, and I couldn't articulate (MTB speak :)) why it wasn't the right fit for me for the terrain I was riding on.

[@ericcosten5689]

You said intergalactic with such confidence I was gonna let it slide.

[@WorldwideCyclery]

Check 10:58 got ya 😁

[@ericcosten5689]

@@WorldwideCyclery intergalactic is all encompassing though. "Don't matter what planet you come from you go through US! We're intergalactic baby! "

[@harryls1283]

Jeff, thanks for answering questions like that because they help us riders make better decisions on what to do to improve our rides. I was actually thinking about what height of handle bar to get and know I have a much better idea. I am a subscriber and I’m glad I am. Thanks again dude!

[@seattlevkk]

What an excellent video. I just got an epic evo and was wondering why the handlebar is so low and whether this was a new type of geo in general but this explained it. I'm having to raise things up considerably.

[@shilohlane4016]

me too-i love so much about this epic evo but the bar is too low and i am maxed on spacers. i am 6'2" (with a long torso) on a size large and i am looking at the 50mm rise deity highside bar. what are you going for?

[@dzastafahrai]

@Worldwide Cyclery please do video about handlebar angles :)

[@tombarbee729]

I’ve been waiting for a video like this for SO FREAKING LONG. Thank you!

[@flyingnorseman]

Im 6-4 tall and Ive got a Tallboy 4 with a 140mm fork. My steer tube is longish (2, 25mm spacers) to get the bars up some and I use a 65mm, +5 deg stem. Im running this with a fairly flat handlebar. Think about all the variables in those 3 aspects of fit: steer tube, stem and bar. These 3 can be adjusted in an million different ways. Fitting a bike is probably one of the most complicated activities in sports.

[@markobajt9261]

went from flat to 50mm rise, on an old Author Traction. Made a huge difference in comfort, control,.

[@powertapping]

I ride an E bike and it presents different issues mostly because of the weight. I have already raised the bars to max but l still find it a big effort to get the front end up quickly. You r video is great I feel a30/ 35 rise is perfect for me at least I'll start there. I've subscribed and look forward to more good information.

[@diegokleinman8774]

... national intergalactic cycling association ?? lol who they racing against, aliens?

[@WorldwideCyclery]

Aliens and spaceships! Check 10:58 got ya 😁

[@gatoryak7332]

We are all aliens somewhere.

[@jove1155]

I got a BMX 8.5" high rise for my fatbike, that's exactly what I needed. I'm a big fat guy trying to get into cycling and don't need to be hunched over while I ride.

[@stevencole7331]

Actually for me my flat bar hardtail pushing me a bit forward doesnt affect my back on a longer ride but my shoulder arms and hands can be affected putting more pressure on those body parts . I went with a short stem and that was helpful . I do like to climb and to be efficient at doing that but as I get older ( almost 60 ) a higher rise bar maybe worth a try . The problem is figuring out how much rise I should go with

[@boopiejones]

I didn’t catch the hairstyle change, but I coach a highschool MTB team and did notice the intergalactic NICA comment (which I’m stealing, btw). I recently switched from a 20mm to 40mm rise bar. It doesn’t seem to hurt me on the climbs, but I’m considerably more comfortable and confident when descending.

[@Imreadingthisaloud]

Wow, took a punt on some 40mm rise bars to help with my lower back…turns out it might help my downhill too…win win!

[@lparker3446]

Switched to the PNW bar and riding switchbacks, uphill and down, seems easier. But check your current setup. I needed a new stem to fit the PNW 31.8 diameter bar.

[@paultorres4866]

This is an "old" trend coming around again.

[@blazerman61]

About time someone said that!!🙋🙋😎

[@sdqsdq6274]

its not trend, bikes just look better with rise bar

[@blazerman61]

@@sdqsdq6274 ..hence a trend ...

[@miguelandrade199]

but then why the low rise became a thing meanwhile?

[@TheCharleseye]

I didn't know it ever left. I've always run a higher rise bar and never noticed a reduction of fellow "high bar" riders at the trails. That's at least 23 years of "trend" as far as I know.

[@dustinpitts7798]

I just upvrade from 25mm to 35mm bars to do exactly what you brought up...alleviate lower back pain and fatigue...tomorrow will be the first ride on the new setup...gonna go ride slick rock in Moab

[@shaymtbrider7244]

Do u feel any difference

[@dustinpitts7798]

@@shaymtbrider7244 yes, I noticed the difference, it changes your position on the bike and helps during the climbs

[@shaymtbrider7244]

@@dustinpitts7798 how about lower back pain my handle bars has 15 mm rise n i had 3 spacers over my stem so v aggressive position but lately i feel my back really stiff n have a lot of pain so i put all the spacer under my stem but want to upgrade 30 mm or 35 mm rise handlebars . So 35 mm bars help ur back pain or not ?

[@dustinpitts7798]

@@shaymtbrider7244 lower back felt the most relief

[@MrTrav36]

Stack Hight for me been 6' 2'' is so important when buying a bike . Nothing worst than the same stack Hight on a size small ,as to a size XL .

[@jaredtopilko1313]

649 stack height sounds great?

[@A.D.D.O.C.D.T]

Good to see you mate ,some of my favourite videos.Learn session 👊⚡️⚡️

[@69indigoblue]

I ride a 50mm riser (spank 777) plus two 10mm spacers on my do it all AM bike for several years now and never had an issue wether it is going uphill technical stuff or going downhill...the main idea was to prevent my neck from hurting on longer tours when you look upwards some kind to watch the scenery around while doing all that crazy stuff mountainbikers do in between...:-)

[@jeffarcher400]

High bars for me reduce the possibility of Endo, are much more moto when sliding and are the only way to fly. The change in headset angle as a bike wallows through it's travel is an important issue. I've always thought about piggybacking two forks so the shaft travel overlaps. Say one aluminum center with a shaft up and another down. The overlap should allow more travel with less deflection. I first thought about it as a way to separate small chatter from big hits. You could also change headset angle instantly using a seat dropper type valving. Have it slack on the drops and bring it in for climbing.

[@lukehaddix4710]

I expected to see something like the mother ship close up when you said intergalactic. Thanks for this video to help me understand that bars.

[@marcusoutdoors4999]

Useful video. Personally I found a huge difference moving to bars with a 12 degree sweep back, much less hand pain due to a more natural angle + the shift to carbon bars reduced vibration

[@jeffv.akaonsjeffke9865]

Hi Marcus, can you please tell me the brand/model of bars you have bought. I'm looking for more backsweep as in general many bars are 8° and I feel my current raceface are a bit too straight. Thanks in advance.

[@renemens24]

thanks for the video! Im riding a Scott Spark 950 and was looking for a way to make it feel a bit more like a trail- instead of an XC bike. bought a 30mm rise and a slightly shorter stem (60mm). feels more confident on the way down! And looks way cooler :) Thanks!!

[@emtbxl4212]

I love my 50mm rise bars. My buddy has 80mm rise bars. We do alot of enduro riding on ebikes, and I prefer riding in the upright position.

[@charliebrigham1690]

I ordered PMW before I saw this video, very happy I did now

[@sirvince7853]

35mm to 40mm rise because stack on most bikes is way too low. So I make it up with rise and headset spacers. Just like size specific chain stays, so should stack be more size specific. A Santa Cruz Tallboy in size XS has a 600mm stack and a XXL has a 656mm stack. The max rider height for those sizes is 5'1" and 6'7". A 1'6" difference is rider height and a 56mm difference in stack. That's why I've always used 35mm to 40mm rise bars.

[@nanobis]

I've just switched from a 18" frame to a 19" frame on the same bike. Will be interesting to see how my 50mm rise bars work on the new frame.

[@slimjim4ever]

I’m a short guy at 5’6 always preferred my handlebars to be lower than my saddle height by 1-2inches. With 100mm travel fork it’s all good but when I move up to 120mm I have hard time finding 25-35 degree negative angle stem to lower the front end.

[@rocco.mbb.zoccoli]

In the comments before Taylor R. has thrown herself at Jeff.. I shall consider this a productive AF Friday. #tayloryouslippin

[@tayruot]

Dang it! I was trying to move on from asking him out, but my heart can’t stay away from Jeff’s beautiful blue eyes.

[@rocco.mbb.zoccoli]

@Taylor R 😂🤣🤣

[@TalklikeAPirate]

I did notice "intergalactic" but thought you were using clever word play to make it sound cooler.

[@goatsplitter]

Considering your mention about back ergonomics, I'm surprised you didn't mention a handlebar that's meant for that line spanks vibrocore. I know that's not the topic of the video, but it was part of the reasoning to go with high rise and why not double up? Maybe a good topic for another video - configuration and parts that reduce strain/pain

[@jcarls44]

Interscholastic, planetary. planetary, interscholastic!

[@WorldwideCyclery]

Haha you caught that 😁

[@WorldwideCyclery]

10:58

[@XCRiders]

I love the idea of riser bars, But I hate my front wheel getting lite and wandering around on climbs Leads me to crashes

[@virkelie2]

That's what I wondered about - whether the front wheel getting lite can cause you to lose control. You answered my question!

[@jasonpatrickdeleon4701]

So i get 15degress rise up with 2 10mm spacers

[@AmogusSusAmongusSussyBakaAmogg]

Great video! I just want to say if you have rise bars you can angle the bars back more to give less reach rather than using spacers. It will feel a little weird but i got used to it 👍.

[@nomadcarpenter8549]

For me im swapping from a high stack to low stack bike so compensating for that by going from a 1/2" rise to 1¼" rise to get the same position without adding 45mm of spacers.

[@bobcat5496]

Thanks Jeff very cool. Definitely will use this is my new bike!,

[@steezemonk]

I’m running 10mm rise and 640mm wide bars😂

[@footballle5722]

Awesome. Great educational video. I learned so much today. Thank you !

[@QUACKERBACKER101]

Thanks for the video guys! I push my bike up half the time anyway...checkin pnw bars now

[@locktite724]

Pro tip, if you're just getting your feet wet trying to decide what type of rise you would like out of your handlebars but are unsure, you can buy some cheapo ones on Amazon and then if you like them by a reputable brand. BW i think makes a cheap 40 and 60 mm riser bar that I picked up for 20 bucks open box, by doing this I realized that I wanted something more than 40 mm and got a set of handlebars from profile designs 60mm half price brand new just because the box was damaged. I wish this video did a brief description of popular setback angles, they talk about it in the pnw video the 10° setback 5⁰ upsweep on that handlebar is further that typical bars, most bars are 7-9⁰ the people that tested it said they really did notice a difference in that extra degree.

[@RobHill00]

Really useful, something I was thinking about on my last ride!👍🏻😎

[@TheSlowworms]

Had to go back to the beginning to see if your hair actually was longer 😂 Great video, thanks!

[@01airbound]

They should change it to Intergalactic! Really useful info about adjusting reach... Great vid, thanks

[@steyer-crmg]

I’m starting a new trend, mullet wheel set, mullet haircut, box handle bars and a flannelette shirt on my ebike.

[@benschram]

That goat in the fence got me.

[@Themilkmanskid.]

I don't understand the end where changing spacers brings the bars closer, but adding a higher rise handlebar will make them higher but not closer. I won't be changing the spacers on my bike because the clamp is already on the top. It seems that as long as you keep the high rise handlebar in the same configuration as the replaced ones, the effect should be the same(closer and higher). I'm not really keen on this stuff though. I bought high rise (50mm) to replace 25mm ones to further upright my body like at the beginning of this video. Hope they work, 'cause I haven't tried them yet.

[@jestt600]

Great explanation guys Thanks

[@WorldwideCyclery]

Glad you liked it! 🍻

[@jameswilson2815]

I went with changing my stem. Stayed close to original specs. 50mm. with 10 degree rise. Noticeably better.

[@sgresham2706]

Great info, just what I needed! Btw I love your videos. Thanks!

[@jessehill3780]

One thought is where does rider height come into play? I’m beginning to think will be seeing more size dependent bar spec on bikes (like we’re seeing with chain stays). Ibis is now doing this where their S/M size get low rise and L/XL get high rise. At 6ft this makes a lot of sense to me as the differences in head tube lengths between sizes doesn’t seem very much among most brands I’ve seen. When your standing in the attack position with a 32” inseam and low rise bars you end up squatting so low that your legs actually lose power and pop because you can’t squat down further to load the bike because your already squatted down (hopefully that makes sense). I went from 20mm spacers with 20mm bars and then raised to 30mm spacers and it was night and day and now this will be first weekend trying 35mm rise bars with 20mm spacers just trying to get a touch more and gain some reach back while also having room to play with for different areas traveling rather than being maxed with no options. I think you can take the syndicate team as an example, Peaty and Minnaar both taller and both on high rise, Loic and Luca while not short are shorter and not using as high.

[@drOscar]

All this information is useful for ebike , 4 example : turbo levo 2023 ( basic model ) , I guess is correct .

[@thegcpu]

Very good. Keep up the good work!

[@talentedfluke8038]

Now I have to play with my spacers!

[@RNicknackpaddywhack]

I run a 50mm rise vibracore bar, 10 degree rise stem, and a spacer on my DH bike. Makes me feel like I can throw my chest over the front end without fear.

[@olegpetelevitch4443]

Renthal 30 mm Rise bar 31.8 carbon fat bar light 740 and 50 mm Apex stem Renthal, And a 80 mm stem to ! 1 for XC and 1 for MTB !

[@kaippallyvishnu1159]

Awesome presentation brother Liked your videos Very informative

[@James-u5v4y]

In the early 1990s Most mountain bikes came with straight handlebars. I consider anything a high rise handlebar compared to those days

[@nickatdallas]

I like the goat squeezee, thumbs up for that 👍

[@jesusmorales674]

The whole high front thing makes sense I have a dj and only bought bc I was new to the scene didn’t have a lot of money but anyways I try to keep up w the guys on the trails n for the most part I can but one day I was climbing super steep litterally flew otb n bike went flying up

[@guillaume05ch]

Stem spacers change the leverage you get on your front end. Makes quite a difference

[@thomc0m]

Great vid WC!

[@AssyrianLanguage]

I'm glad I found your channel. Good videos with good information. The background music in this video is terrible though.

[@Gene_158]

Very informative! Thanks!

[@passionwithouttalent5894]

Rise for the comfort and aesthetic. 50mm Spanks on my bike now but looking to replace them because the blue clashes with my frame

[@mray8519]

😅 I appreciate the relevant items on the wall; ball cap, water bottle, toy bike, MAKERS MARK. 😂😂