British video's are spot on. love them , always good advice
@jcd9456 Жыл бұрын
This video is packed with information. Thanks for the timestamps, I appreciate it very much!
@TheOneAndOnlyTed2 жыл бұрын
I changed out the bars on my bike for ones with a 60mm rise because my back was hurting, and it made a huge difference. Immediately the pain was gone and it feels great going downhill, which is what I prefer anyways. Still not bad up hill either. Only when it get's really steep is hard to to keep the front down, but it's rarely an issue and well worth getting rid of the back pain.
@JackMott Жыл бұрын
yeah you can bend elbows when you need to be lower, anyone reading this get comfortable! you can still shred fine
@green_building5 ай бұрын
are you 40+?
@TrashPandaXpress Жыл бұрын
I use the "armpit to middle finger tip" measurement for my bar width, and its worked wonderfully for me thus far! Im personally a 770mm bar and it feels like the perfect width while cornering and jumping.
@4nanke1299 ай бұрын
Finally I understand the difference between all the numbers of flat bars. Thank you very much for sharing your knowledge.
@teecee44596 ай бұрын
Great video covering a lot of info! I just decided to get a handful of low end model stems in a variety of lengths and rises and brands and see what configuration I like best - they only cost around $30 each. I did the same with handlebars. Once I figure out my sweet spot, then I will know the exact specs I need if I decide to upgrade to a higher end component. I'll also have the ability to modify in the future if I want. Roughly $300 for 4 stems and 5 bars will give me a full range of combinations to play around with. I'm not sure what a bike fitter costs, but I'm thinking this is a better option 😂
@plainuser485962 жыл бұрын
I'd say handlebar rise is just as much about overall bike fit as it is about "more vertical position". The latter is usually built into bikes by design anyway, so the rise is there more to match preferences of reach, rider angle and so on
@mikeschulman80342 жыл бұрын
Great video Anna. I went from a One Up with 20mm rise to 35mm rise, and the difference was pretty noticeable. While my riding position became more upright and comfortable, I did have to work harder when on tech climbs to keep the front wheel planted. Once I got used to the different climbing position, the trade off for increased comfort was worth it.
@iannorris88912 жыл бұрын
Hey Mike. I ride 20mm one up's on my e-mtb & hardtail but was thinking of getting the 35mm for my gravity (80% downhill) bike. How do you recommend one over the other on descent please ?
@mikeschulman80342 жыл бұрын
@@iannorris8891 I think it’s about how they fit you. For me, the higher rise put less strain on my back when pedaling hard on flatter sections. I’m 5’9, and ride a large (S4), with a 40mm stem, and to me, the 35mm feel really great descending.
@gmbntech2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing, Mike! Changing your handle bar rise can make a huge difference to your body position. We're glad you enjoyed this one!
@charlie9ine2 жыл бұрын
I rolled my bars just a couple of millimeters backwards and it made a significant difference in the comfort and handling of my trail bike. You have to adjust the rest of your cockpit accordingly but it’s something very easy to do that isn’t talked about much
@ilanpi2 жыл бұрын
There are actually many -40 degree stems on the market. In fact, they're cheap +40 degree stems meant for beginners, but you just flip them upside down.
@busterbeast9992 жыл бұрын
This sounds like one of those counter life hacks. Like they try to bend the bars to make it negative and you just walk up and flip it over.
@sepg50842 жыл бұрын
@@busterbeast999 installing a stem upside down is not really a "hack", it is basic.
@ancogbernard2 жыл бұрын
the heck. thats written -+40 that means its on you how you used it. what she talking about is the one piece carbon negative 40° handle bar.
@fegasegiawan34402 жыл бұрын
Exactly what I needed. Rocking up 760mm uprise handle bar, but have not settle it and wanted to look for another. Thanks for the insight anna!
@gmbntech2 жыл бұрын
Glad we could help! Hopefully this helps you find a more comfortable setup! 👍
@Dobrinja1921 Жыл бұрын
Love your videos, really do. Informative, simple and understandable for everyone, entertaining. The entire package....But what I´ve learned riding MTB for 20 years is that everyone is different, and the only right way is what fits you best - no measurements and guidelines can help you with that. Im 196 cm, long arms but I don´t have wide shoulders. Initially everyone tells me your handlebar should be at least 800mm, the reach at least 520mm etc. But that doesnt suit me at all, 750mm is what I ride currently - but even 720mm fits me extremly well. Also the reach of 480mm is more than enough, same goes for the handlebar rise - 15mm absolutely sufficient
@pwiles19682 жыл бұрын
I run a 60mm Rise on my bar but i have relatively short legs/arms versus body length its the only way i have found to get comfortable on my bike, i think body geometry is often ignored when considering rise.
@almerseveriusson97794 ай бұрын
same with me but the opposite. I follow the trend with riser bar but it f-uped my riding totally before I figured out I had to overly bend my arms to get in to an attack position.
@tomquimby86692 жыл бұрын
Good video, however you miss the point of body length to leg length, Reach is also a factor of the frame as is extended ride comfort. Ergotec handlebars are a good resource.
@eXaviar Жыл бұрын
I am 1,63m and I tried dozens of grips. Also all angles of my bar rolling forward or backward. My previous grips were the Egon with the mini Wings. They made my outer wrist pain go away, but they caused numbness 😱 I switched to the Ergon GXR. They solved the numbness problem but the outer wrist pain came back. So I looked for something that is nice and squische and provide the angle of the Ergon mini wings. Then I found out that there are bars with way more backsweep. Tested the natural backsweep of my hands, like Anna discribed. Voila: A backsweep of at least 16° is needed. Went for one and on top I shortened the bar to 760mm. Boom: Nice comfy position for a lot of hours of riding to come. Well, I admit they look funny and some friends called me out for using a trekking bar on my trail bike and I may break, but it is certified for downhill riding 💪🏾 Dmn, that was journey to find a good position 🤪 At least it made my way to a comfy position on my gravel bike way shorter 🤫
@galenkehler Жыл бұрын
Look at the angle your wrists make. I found having a lot of backsweep helped a lot to keep wrist straighter. Kona Handplant bars are a nice sweep. Mounted upside down you don't even need a -30⁰ stem or anything. you will need a longer stem to compensate for the backsweep, I went with a 130mm stem to put the hands back in the same position as the flat bar.
@kisilvan2 жыл бұрын
Very helpful thanks Anna
@gmbntech2 жыл бұрын
Glad it was helpful! Cheers!
@mray8519 Жыл бұрын
Good clear explanation of bar configuration. Thanks.
@SrSacaninha2 жыл бұрын
Really thorough. Thanks!
@owenjones762010 ай бұрын
Absolutely brilliant, well explained, totally understandable and so glad I found this information, even for a novice like me, thank you so much for the video ❤ love it..
@BicinViaggio2 жыл бұрын
Excellent and thorough explanation. Many thanks!
@gmbntech2 жыл бұрын
You're welcome! Thanks for watching!
@AgentMTB Жыл бұрын
I just ordered the X-Track Carb Ti. Cant wait 😉!! Want that high power to weight performance...shaving weight is also a big plus! Great vid as always!! Keep🚴♂️
@tomassanesson9022 жыл бұрын
Awesome video ❤❤❤
@madtownangler2 жыл бұрын
If your old like me you use downhill bars on a xc bike because it's better for your back. I can't remember the last time I used a straight bar probably 30 years ago with Onza bar ends
@1969Escobar2 жыл бұрын
Anna wow!!!! great video, you nail it!!!! cheers🤟
@gmbntech2 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much!! Anna knows her stuff!
@shoeonhead2 жыл бұрын
The only thing I feel paralyzed by is how dope you are Anna! My job is literally to be a gear expert in the industry but I come here to refresh!
@judasone83 Жыл бұрын
she is cool
@Adam-vm8kp Жыл бұрын
😂
@willienillie6337 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for the information and sharing your knowledge.
@pjfcarlberg Жыл бұрын
I like this topic, all because struggling with there own perfect position. Just now we still have under zero degrees Celsius, whit snow and ice for the last 2 months and one month more to come. And now back to the topic, a nice safe winterposition is not the same as in the summer. Pushing snowwalls with minimal grip is just one thing.
@frankharradence5546 Жыл бұрын
Great, clear video, useful & timely for me as about to choose a Rethnal alloy bar for my new bike. Good tips re calculating width, I’ve been wondering where/how to start calculating this.
@Tome4kkkk2 ай бұрын
I need a handlebar with angles almost exactly like a sports motorbike's. Sloped down and even more - to the back. The trick is, I need it short. Just throwing it out there. I already accepted I'm gonna need to make it myself :)
@_TheDeanMachine2 жыл бұрын
Just ordered a set yesterday, wish I'd seen this sooner 😂
@ryanmaloney29148 ай бұрын
I went from 0 to +18mm and wow. I was considering a new bike but not anymore.
@andrewsonleitner98822 жыл бұрын
Nice job you made it easy....
@gmbntech2 жыл бұрын
Thanks! 👍
@andrec.136 Жыл бұрын
I'm 6'2 with wide shoulders and it's 800 wide bars for me. I just look out for the trees if I need to, as I feel way more comfortable and confident with that size.
@petererbse62532 жыл бұрын
Rolling the bars slightly backwards on a hardtail makes sense. Thanks! I didn't think about that so far. I don't know if the more agressive the riding the wider the bars is a right approach i have relatively wide shoulders compared to my size and I feel like I have more control with a 740mm bar than a 780 or even 800mm bar because there's more room for the bike to move in a controlled manner underneath me in technical terrain, when the front for example deflects going higher speeds when descending
@sepg50842 жыл бұрын
If the bars are wider than what your body could naturally "fit", you will start getting shoulder aches. If you want better stability without relying on bar width too much, you can strengthen your arms and shoulders.
@j.albertogratacos20762 жыл бұрын
Thanks! Much needed insight on one of the dark arts of mtb.
@gmbntech2 жыл бұрын
Glad it was helpful! Bike setup is an infinite and never ending thing! 😂
@edteach3r Жыл бұрын
Very helpful, thank you.
@14TacomaDR9 ай бұрын
My Specilized levo Turbo has the 35 mm clamp size and there are fewer choices of bars . As a older person I was looking for a higer rise to sit more upright.
i like the top of my grips 1070mm above the floor on all my bikes, due to spinal issues.i'd like to try a bar with more backsweep, but the very few companies that offer them seem to charge alot. great show anna.
@erikl10001 Жыл бұрын
Love this explainer! Definitely clarified some things for me and taught me some new ones like the rolling back for hard tails. Also, what is that stem on the white bike? Looks cool!
@karlosxzy Жыл бұрын
Great video. Thanks Anna.
@wiredblitzen9 ай бұрын
Thank you for your video👍👌
@gmbntech9 ай бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@uldi1s2 жыл бұрын
It's surprising to see how bar width has developed. Back when I was racing in the 90's, expert were adamant that no wider than 650mm should be used. And my push up width is 950mm! 😄 I had to make my own bar extensions in a lathe 🙄
@vilimiryordanov8502 Жыл бұрын
Regardless of wheel size, fork travel and frame stack, I always prefer 40-50mm rise. With anything lower I feel I can't manoeuvre the bike the way I like, especially on jumps, doing bunny hops and in general just pulling the front wheel up (whether do to a bunny hop or just a wheelie). Looking at getting some 50mm Spank Vibrocore bars. I've been hearing a lot of positive feedback on those!
@iannorris88912 жыл бұрын
One up bars, nuff said :-) !
@SalmiakAlert Жыл бұрын
Really good presenter, thanks.
@notcayden_yt38473 ай бұрын
I love this channel
@Maffpalmer Жыл бұрын
Really great and very informed video. Thank you! I am in that exact place right now, trying to choose a bar for my 29er hardtail.
@dannnyw111 Жыл бұрын
gmbn tech tool tour of the shed!
@calvinpgetzke5720 Жыл бұрын
How often should you replace carbon bars? I know my hockey sticks break without warning what about carbon bars?
@DarkstarDarth Жыл бұрын
Some manufacturers explain that carbon bars absorb vibration and provide more comfort than aluminium as you said it does the opposite..?
@JimLacey3572 ай бұрын
“Super Enduro”??? 🤔 Did I miss a new mountain bike classification somehow? 🤷♂️ I still haven’t accepted “Downcountry”. 😅
@xclent1975Ай бұрын
💯
@ctodag98292 жыл бұрын
You know, ... for a channel as big as yours i think it should be fairly easy to instead of just explaining what "handlebar rise", "upsweep" etc. is with words, have some overlaying graphics of it on the handlebar in the video. Like you hold the handlebar, and then a line gets animated from the middle of the grips to the center of the grips ... Still, thanks for the detailed video.
@mikeburgh3956 Жыл бұрын
I think she did great at explaining it🤷
@Canigetanawwwwyyyyeeeah Жыл бұрын
Wind yer neck in…..
@Canigetanawwwwyyyyeeeah Жыл бұрын
Wind yer neck in…..
@ypure38592 ай бұрын
@@ctodag9829 absolutely agree
@armanclark24012 жыл бұрын
banging info.. shes a keeper!
@believe8263 Жыл бұрын
Check out Pro Taper 78mm riser bars. So much more comfortable and feels more like my 450 motocross bike.
@rodwilson391 Жыл бұрын
I can see riser bars coming next 😮
@steve-j7c4 ай бұрын
Anna what rise are the handlebars on the white canyon bike on your left?
@RadoslawAdamStachnik2 жыл бұрын
OneUp❤❤❤ Rise 35
@iannorris88912 жыл бұрын
How is one up 35 for gravity riding (I have one up 20mm on my other bikes, best bar ) !
@aldrinclementina4297 Жыл бұрын
Help me out GMBN Tech. I'm not a full mountain biker. I do like it and ride it when we have rainy season where I live. We don't have snow etc. That's why I'm still using my 26 Giant XTC1. I do have flat bars but narrow. I'm going to replace them with a slight wider one. I do have a 100mm stem on it. What do you recommend me about the stem and raise? It's a Medium frame
@TheButlerNZ2 жыл бұрын
Woo Hoo... So 1st out of the way... What we need is a Retro Girvin Fork system on the bars, giving some non twist suspension and allowing a quick shift bar height for up then down hill... A simple twist or flip lever on the side of the stem changing the rise from high to low on the climb, then back again on the DH... with some rubber buffer for vibration above/beyond the front forks... also means you could lock the front on the climbs but still dampen the vibrations. Bob keeps an eye on my handlebars for me... That's him in my User Icon... He's up front on all my rides (and mediocre videos.. but hey I'm getting a little wimpy in my middle (cough) age...
@David-mu5rv Жыл бұрын
Do these handlebar principles apply to fat tire bikes? I'm very new to this and considering a new handlebar. Thanks
@strongerthanyouallday2 жыл бұрын
Talk about the Spank Vibrocore!
@ianmangham4570 Жыл бұрын
50mm riser 720
@bobothericefarmer18782 жыл бұрын
Makes more sense now
@loft4me Жыл бұрын
Can any of these variables in the handlebar reduce the sense of twitchiness, when I went from a suspended fork to a rigid one? When I went to the rigid fork, I lost a wee bit in fork length, and also lost an offset that I had with the Fox 34 fork.
@scottmh965 ай бұрын
#askgmbntech I recently got back into mountain biking, I've ended up with a Norco Torrent with 800mm bars and I've later also bought a Trek Procaliber with 750mm bars. When I ride the trek I find that my hands hang off the end of the bars slightly, is this likely to be an issue with handlebar width or is it likely I have my brake levers/shifters in the wrong place?
@Emtbtoday3 ай бұрын
Quick question if anyone can help. I switched to 35mm bars this summer, only to find that I can't find a darn clamp that will fit to mount my lights now! Can someone please point me in the right direction if you have a 35mm bar clamp with the screw sliders to lock the lights in or a bar extension? I just need the fatbar mount. I'm not switching back to 31.8s for winter now that I'm used to my 38mm rise. Thanks, folks!
@Freakyfamous_hh Жыл бұрын
So, I 'm still curious, how do I find out the diamaters of the grips. Quite wierd that this diameter is not shown in any technical description of a handlebar
@Adam-vm8kp Жыл бұрын
The diameter of the part of the bar they go onto or the thickness of the grip itself?
@ridesouls28302 жыл бұрын
I run 200mm fork with 60mm bars
@Alondelmonte3 ай бұрын
How long should it be for enduro bikes?
@gmbntech3 ай бұрын
How wide are your shoulders?
@TheDustyShredder2 жыл бұрын
I'm running 720mm carbon bars on my trail bike, but I can't figure out why I can't seem to keep my front wheel planted on the climbs. Idk if the bike is too long or too short, if I need bar drop (I'm running flat bars), or if maybe the stack is too tall, but the bike always pops wheelies if I'm in the saddle and not deliberately shifting my weight forward. That being said, it descends like an absolute champ just keeping my body central on my bike. Any advice would be helpful.
@gazzas282 жыл бұрын
Longer stem, it will naturally bring body weight over the front wheel.
@isaac.g_music5 ай бұрын
uh oh the diameter of my bars I just got is 31.8mm but my stem clamp is actually only 30mm.... I'm so pathetic 🙃 Does anyone know if it might still fit?
@AlexeyPapoi2 жыл бұрын
Hello! Does anybody know a company that makes custom bars? I cant find the ones I really need!!!
@believe8263 Жыл бұрын
What are you looking for?
@bosrey7807 Жыл бұрын
What about Ti bars?
@dystopiaisutopia2 жыл бұрын
I like my Spank Vibrocore
@adlar2005 Жыл бұрын
My homie has a 500mm rise on his lowrider.
@robertbransby Жыл бұрын
The term bottom of the barrel comes to mind. Are bars really that much of a minefield?
@gerardvandijk1173 Жыл бұрын
Love the bike design kzbin.infoUgkxHL1v1R3NE5x4KiYfyt8dnQmyNYz7qi5L and functionality. It is hard to align the front tired to center the disk brakes. The brake wheel touches the stationery side of the brake caliper and pad. I aired the tire up to 40 psi as the markings say 40-60psi. Left the house for a few hours and came back to an exploded innertube.All in all it seems to be a good bike. Have not ridden it yet though so that's the max of my knowledge. Update, put a new innertube made sure the tire was set properly and it did the same thing in under 20 minutes as second pic shows.
@xclent1975Ай бұрын
So max width take your height in cm X 4.4= max width personally I find 740-760 is perfect and I’m 6’1” or 185 cm so way below my max based on the above formula. Wider bars will be harder to pull to jump and technical
@Indicasativa55 Жыл бұрын
800 mm is to wide !!! That’s what my torn up right knee leg and arm and the damaged tree I clipped are telling me
@janeblogs3242 жыл бұрын
7:48 680 to 640? Really?
@gmbntech2 жыл бұрын
Ooops! Good spot, we meant to say 680 - 740 there!
@mikebirkett010 Жыл бұрын
Also, when sat slightly more upright on your saddle, yer arse don't hurt so much.
@daskrahennest2856 Жыл бұрын
Came here to educate myself on something I know nothing about, ended up falling in love. God damn man fuck me.
@uberfu Жыл бұрын
Wouldn't "negatrive rise" (WTF) simply be DROP or LOWER or DOWN or DECLINE. Stop trying to make weird terminology up to be a double negative. Please discuss in future videos about the "Negative Up Tube" (downtube) or the "Reverse Up Post" (drop post) or how you flipped the bike upside down to raise the suspension to a lower position setting. WTF Negative Rise !!!!!