High Velocity Cartiridge History

[@sparky_-mf2cs]

270 win still my favorite

[@JimParvin-o9e]

I just set my limits on the range to which I know my old guns are going to be used. For my standard rounds is 300 yards. For my magnums is 400 yards, under Ideal conditions. I keep it real, and I WILL NOT SHOOT UNLESS I AM POSITIVE OF A CLEAN ONE SHOT KILL.

[@michaelguerin56]

Randy, one thing I am reminded of, is the introduction of the .260 Remington cartridge. Here in New Zealand, it was quickly discovered that that you could not safely duplicate the factory ammunition velocities achieved in your rifle because case expansion of the Remington cases was excessive. Word got around and sales dropped off. No great surprise, given that one well known NZNRA target shooter-and gunsmith-was popping primers in his 6.5-08 rifle, during a shoot at Seddon Range in Trentham, Upper Hutt. It was also no secret, at the time, that: if you wanted to load up the 7mm-08, it was better to use Winchester cases. Remington case quality may have improved since then. No such thing as a free lunch. Cheers from NZ🇳🇿.

[@Paladin1873]

A 175 grain 7mm round with a muzzle velocity of 3200 fps would be most impressive. I don't know what I'd do with it, but maybe long range shooters would benefit from it. I'd be too concerned about rapid barrel wear, which is why I stick with more traditional plodding rounds such 243, 7mm Mauser, 7-08, 308, and 30-06. I bought a 6.5 CM just to see what all the hype was about, but I have not been overly enamored with it. I think I prefer the 6.5x55. My "reachers" are 7mm Mag and 300 Win Mag, which I know are ballistically outclassed by more recent developments, but they're more than enough for my needs.

[@markmcg777]

Great video. I have hunted Whitetail for 30+ years with a 25-06 and 100 grain Noslers about 3300 fps. Great 300 yard whitetail caliber. If I hunted elk, I would be carrying a 300 Weatherby. God Bless and I hope you and your family have a great Fourth of July!!

[@CharlesRushing-ck2qm]

Love Weatherby Cartridges and Rifles. 270 Weatherby Mag is probably my favorite and spits 130 grainers out at the Magical 3200+ fps. 26" bbl of course. I also have had a nearly 40 year love affair with the 264 Winchester Mag. Thank you for another great presentation.

[@craigleibbrand7761]

The 270 Weatherby is my all time favorite rifle cartridge. I have chronograph 130gr. Bullets at 3400 fps with 74gr of H4831 in a 24 inch barrel.

[@leonardjanda6181]

Love ❤️ channel extremely informative and a knowledgeable person speaking 🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸

[@diggingoonschmit]

Don’t forget about Ralph T. Davis of Modern Gun Works and also MGW Bullets, which he manufactured until about 1967. He specialized in high velocity projectiles after being Roy Weatherby’s main partner and designer of the MK V action about 1957. It was not Fred Jenny as Roy’s biography will tell you. Roy had a falling out with Ralph Davis after the action was designed and Fred Jenny got the credit. I knew Ralph Davis personally. After leaving Weatherby he continued gunsmithing and started bullet manufacturing until he was bought out, forcefully by the US government for the Vietnam war effort to exclusively make 22 cal bullets for the M16. He kept 1 bullet swedging machine for himself, which I saw in his garage in Paramont, CA. He encouraged me to go to gunsmith school back in 1980-81. He was a wonderful man and never given the credit he was due. I also worked for Roy Weatherby for about 14 years from the early 1980’s until the late 1990’s. I knew Roy Weatherby and Fred Jenny as well. A great man was Mr. Weatherby and his company was a great pleasure to work for.

[@davestrohmeyer-saddleupsho8009]

Agree with the commentary about increased velocity out west. The example of the 6.5 Creedmoor loaded with 120-125 grain "Hunting bullet" for more energy can be validated simply by using any free on-line ballistics calculator. Thanks Randy.

[@Trinitystillmyname]

I typically have disagreed with you. But this particular message..... resonates with me. Apologies for past headaches. Thankyou for saying some hard truths.

[@DavidFerguson-s4u]

Amen! Excellent perspective. You are dead on accurate.

[@jasonweishaupt1828]

Randy has the Creedmoore shooters running for their safe spaces! 😂

[@Almost_Made_It]

I think Sharpe talks in his handloading book about experiments that were going on at the time (1930s) trying to push bullets to 10,000fps+. I tried to look up info on how those tests went but I didn’t find anything on the subject at all.

[@jaydurtsche2569]

Great video Randy

[@MrPh30]

Nils Kvale writes in his book about “ About guns and ammo” that he and Norma and Weatherby worked on standardized work of many cases and cartridges . One that he mentions was the 7-300 Wby and no matter how much powder they put in no more gain came from it , just burning powder and chamber walls compared with 7mm Wby This gave Phillip Sharpe the heading that he was on the right track and probably what the max for a cartridge could be , and that was his 7x61 S&H.

[@JohnAngle-vw8yq]

Randy I love hearing your opinions on cartridges. I would like to hear your views on the issue of tighter tolerances by sammi on newer cartridges. Is this a BS sales pitch or is there any validity to it?

[@TheRealGunsmith]

Mostly hype to sell something. Thanks for watching.

[@maddog6493]

vary interesting ,and informative thanks ,, randy I'm a fan of the 300 h-h magnum would love to see you do a in-depth video on reloading for the 300h-h thank you take care

[@jtrguitar6294]

Most people that talk about how geeat the mild performance short action cartridges are, are the same people who flinch when they merely look at a 30-06. They will often say "recoil is very personal" and will not accept getting called out for not being a complete marksman.

[@eddieb4227]

I remember when hornady came out with this 243 win that was fast as all get out. It was over capacity charged, and the bullet was pressure seated in. Something like xrp. I got really decent groups at 100 yards and pretty good at 200 with that taco 3-9 scope. But it didn't take long and I didn't see them on the shelves again.

[@michaelhuffer9966]

Randy, great content, need more videos on rifle 😊😊😊😊😊

[@Weatherby406]

30-378 Weatherby for me.. backcountry 2.0 carbon… gives me the velocity needed for proper bullet expansion at extended ranges when needed. I hunt in high wind open country and close range is rarely possible.

[@thomasdaum1927]

A lot of people want to ignore the facts and believe the factory ( HYPE ) to sell new rifles ! Thanks Randy for sharing your vast knowledge !……

[@duckwacker8720]

Most new loads are for hitting steel and punching paper.

[@paulhazel5754]

thank you again for your knowledge. WOW

[@ThatAngryJho-td3xe]

Thanks for the video Randy. One thing that might be good for explaining what makes for an effective combination for quickly dispatching game is rate of transfer. You know just as well as me what makes a bullet work well is both having energy and how fast it transfers it and that is part of why a lot of the situations that work good have a fairly aggressive yet stable transfer of energy through an animal like the partition and many of the other very very good hunting bullet designs.

[@MrPh30]

DWM in the early 1930s made a full lenght series based off the .404 case . 10,75x73 as metric diameter is . It was 7,65x73 , 8x73 and 9,3x70 Decades later RUM copied them

[@SEOKLADUCKIN]

The 6.5 NeedsMore is a good deer round with 99 grain Hammer Hunters. Like he says the higher velocity

[@poggomon]

Can’t wait to make it out that way! Plan on stopping by and meeting you! Interested in a custom rifle, and I want you to build it.

[@sbacsigadget]

I built a 338RUM for nostalgia reasons, have yet to fire it since ammunition is rather expensive.

[@chrisp308]

Meh... I don't see the need for an absolute barrel burner just because hunters can't get close enough.

[@duckwacker8720]

Speed kills

[@paulsimmons5726]

My thoughts exactly!

[@horse.395]

Exactly 💯%

[@rogerray2545]

👍🏻👍🏻

[@WillyK51]

If I'm not wrong, the fastest "Comercial" cartridge was the 220 Swift. Of course wildcaters have made them faster👍

[@waynemayle865]

220 swift still is the fastest commercial made cartridge made today 204 ruger an 17 remington 22-250 are very close second

[@WillyK51]

@@waynemayle865 He,He, remember when the race for speed was on. Also the plastic case with metal head, Ahead of it's time, (Today with carbon reinforced resins printed cartridges a posibillity) The Triple burn rate powders stacked, for max speed and a Compressed solid powder cartridge, sans metal case. And a tube inside the cartridge(Direct the primer flash forward) to ignite the powder at the front of cartridge. It's been a very long while for new cartridge development. The latest the 277 Fury 70K-PSI cartridge. Nothing to be impressed by

[@diggingoonschmit]

@@WillyK51 The 220 Weatherby Magnum was spec to hit 4150fps. That was in the mid 50’s. But the bullets of the day couldn’t hold up. I saw early films of Roy Weatherby’s (I worked for them for 14 years), in which he was firing this cartridge at a target on a tree from about 50 feet away. The bullet completely vaporized in a trail of smoke before it hit the target. Since he couldn’t hit the goal of at least 4100fps consistently, Roy stopped production. Why make a cartridge that performs no better than the 220 Swift.

[@f64ecc]

Just a word on performance: it comes at a price. Protect your hearing. The magnums generally have more muzzle blast than standard cartridges. A bruised shoulder will heal, hearing damage may never resolve. If you shoot at a commercial range that requires safety glasses be aware that glasses may render the ear muff type hearing defenders less effective because the seal between the head and the ear cups is broken. Don’t ask me how I know this.

[@travissmith-wz5nc]

Faster twist on weatherby

[@sparky_-mf2cs]

Know your rifle. Know your limits and know your prey...

[@Gdone]

7mm rem mag I think is a great round

[@jamesbyers7169]

Would you trust Partition 100 grain .243 Win to take an Elk @~75? Or 30-30 170 grain as a better choice?

[@Thoreau-e4l]

I not sure about that particular bullet, but around here, SC, they kill deer with 243 past 200 yards, all the time. Seems elk at 75 yards would be doable.

[@TheRealGunsmith]

With proper shot placement, yes to either choice. Thanks for watching.

[@trophyhilll]

Randy hasn’t hunted with most cartridges. I take this with a grain of salt…..

[@Accuracy1st]

I have three 7PRCs. With Hornady factory ELDX 175 grain I get from 2820 to 2860fps. With Federal factory ELDX 175 all 3 rifles are at 3000fps. Guess Federal got ahold of some Reloder 26?

[@duckwacker8720]

Eld-X is Hornady. Federal doesn't load them

[@Accuracy1st]

@@duckwacker8720 Don't know where you've been but Federal has loaded the ELDX for about a year in 7PRC. I have 3 cases of it. Do a quick search. You'll see Federal loads the ELDX bullet in a lot of cartridges - PART NUMBER P7PRCELDX1. Nickel plated brass. it's in their Premium line

[@Accuracy1st]

@@duckwacker8720 PART NUMBER P7PRCELDX1. Nickel plated brass. it's in their Premium line

[@Accuracy1st]

@@duckwacker8720 P7PRCELDX1. Nickel plated brass. it's in their Premium line

[@Accuracy1st]

@@duckwacker8720 Nickel plated brass. it's in their Premium line

[@Thoreau-e4l]

I have my great grandfather's little Hamilton 22 short,had gunsmith at darlington gun works do a little work on it, would it be classified as high velocity?

[@TheRealGunsmith]

No, it wouldn't be. Good inheritance. Thanks for watching.

[@Thoreau-e4l]

@@TheRealGunsmith lol

[@larrybulthouse455]

I love my 338 378 ha ha ha ha