2023 300XC vs 2023 300SX | First Look | What Is different | Highland Cycles

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What is the difference between the 2023 300SX and the 300XC? We are going to dig deep!
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@philip5798
@philip5798 Жыл бұрын
This has become my favourite dirt bike channel on KZbin, great work Morgan! 👏👏10/10
@highlandcycles
@highlandcycles Жыл бұрын
Wow, thanks!
@CapesOfficial
@CapesOfficial 7 ай бұрын
So you’re saying the sx gearbox and gear ratios are better? If so, better how? (Or if I mixed that up, same question haha)
@highlandcycles
@highlandcycles 7 ай бұрын
Not better. Just closer together. Some people like that.
@shaneobrien6034
@shaneobrien6034 6 ай бұрын
I just picked up the 2023 sx Can't wait to take it out this weekend
@quietrhinoasmr2597
@quietrhinoasmr2597 9 ай бұрын
Cant decide between an xc or sx. I ride mostly trails but like to hop on a track every now and then. Ive only ever had motocross bikes so some feedback would be great.
@highlandcycles
@highlandcycles 9 ай бұрын
Get the XC. It does both very well.
@PezRacer
@PezRacer Жыл бұрын
Please let us know if the gas tanks are interchangeable between the sx and xc.
@jspreparednessandself-reli4856
@jspreparednessandself-reli4856 Жыл бұрын
Thanks, Morgan! I’ve been riding a YZ 250 you helped me with some questions when I rebuild it last , it’s been running great, thanks for that, this year, I think I’m going to upgrade to a 300 two-stroke , so far I’ve had my eye on the 2023 husky TX300 , i’m a woods rider , Which KTM is closest to the TX ? I like the explosive power of the YZ. However, would be nice to have fuel injection in electric start 😂
@natefrogskida5225
@natefrogskida5225 Жыл бұрын
I thought the sx was air forks and xc was springs? Are they both pre mixed?
@highlandcycles
@highlandcycles Жыл бұрын
Both pre mix, both air for 23
@trevorcarr7716
@trevorcarr7716 Жыл бұрын
Great video, appreciate all the content. I have a 23 300sx. Going to try doing a couple hare-scrambles this season. Open b, Michigan. Races are a about 2-1/2 to almost 3 hours depending how the leader finishes. My main question. Do I get an xc tank, or can I make it the hour and half before fueling ? Thanks in advance.
@mark_Hershey
@mark_Hershey 6 ай бұрын
Flywheel?
@SteveKiziak
@SteveKiziak Жыл бұрын
I get so much awesome KTM info form you bro! Thanks for all the work that goes into the videos! And I'll probably trade my 21' 350SXF for the 300sx based on how it does in trails!
@riders.oregon4474
@riders.oregon4474 Жыл бұрын
The thing that prevented me from getting a 250 sx back in 2021 was a lack of electric start. That’s why I got an xc.
@highlandcycles
@highlandcycles Жыл бұрын
Not an issue now
@NewBelgiumCO
@NewBelgiumCO Жыл бұрын
These new bikes are freaking rad!!! I’m gonna have to ride my old 2012 into the ground! LOL!!
@wesmorey6167
@wesmorey6167 Жыл бұрын
According to Jeff you should never touch that cold start knob-what we're you thinking?!?🤣🤣
@highlandcycles
@highlandcycles Жыл бұрын
Haha. Not fouling plugs and not hitting the start button twice like he did.
@joeb10p69
@joeb10p69 Жыл бұрын
Holy shit I did not realize the price difference was that much that's crazy. A skid plate and kickstand don't cost $2k. The xc 4 strokes only cost $400 more.
@brycedavis907
@brycedavis907 Жыл бұрын
5 speed vs 6 speed as well. Still doesn't justify $2k imo.
@lukesnyder9281
@lukesnyder9281 Жыл бұрын
+18” rear wheel
@highlandcycles
@highlandcycles Жыл бұрын
Talking to the owner of this bike, we think that it’s KTM’s way of trying to compete with the YZ market in money. The 250 and 300sx aren’t WAY more than the YZ250
@haroldsmith8454
@haroldsmith8454 Жыл бұрын
My 2014 SX has a different cylinder head than the XC/EXC, also the CDI Is different.
@watts300
@watts300 Жыл бұрын
You really make me want a fuel injected two stroke. I’ve stayed away because I don’t want anything carbureted in my life.
@haroldsmith8454
@haroldsmith8454 Жыл бұрын
My 2014 SX has a different cylinder head than the XC/XCW, also the CDI Is different.
@lucianoarias1268
@lucianoarias1268 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the videos again mate ! Keep going please. I am waiting for my 300sx because the 300XC in Australia is sold out.😬
@johnmarino6444
@johnmarino6444 Жыл бұрын
Im thinking about buying the 23 250 sx i like the fastway kickstand. Im glad i watched this video.
@shaneobrien6034
@shaneobrien6034 6 ай бұрын
Thanks to your channel i kinda know what to what im getting my self into😁
@200xcBruce
@200xcBruce Жыл бұрын
Oh boy cannot wait for the drama, and if you like it more than the xc, and if it is perfect.
@highlandcycles
@highlandcycles Жыл бұрын
Hahahahah. I think it’s going to very similar to the XC
@CodeMoab
@CodeMoab Жыл бұрын
How many teeth are you using on the 300 XC rear sprocket? I was thinking about switching to 51.. would that help on trails like 5 MOH?
@highlandcycles
@highlandcycles Жыл бұрын
50. Yeah, 51 would be good for the harder stuff
@georgecarmel6114
@georgecarmel6114 Жыл бұрын
With all the great changes KTM did to the 2023's, why did they decide to use such a cheesy radiator cap? Hopefully All Balls or Tusk will make a better replacement.
@highlandcycles
@highlandcycles Жыл бұрын
Agree. It does feel solid to be honest. Just a pain to get off
@steelshotproductions
@steelshotproductions Жыл бұрын
Is your skid plate factory or after-market? Additionally, are you saying that it looks like a 300XC skid plate would fit on a 300SX because the mounting holes are the same? I'm picking up my 300SX tomorrow and would like to order a skid plate.
@highlandcycles
@highlandcycles Жыл бұрын
Mine is the enduro engineering rubber mounted plate with the link skid. And yes the XC plate will bolt right up
@stevemarquez9628
@stevemarquez9628 Жыл бұрын
I'll bet you could add a 6th gear for under $300. That was the case with my 2017 FC450. The Fx 6th would drop right in. 6th is blocked off with a spacer in the FC.
@highlandcycles
@highlandcycles Жыл бұрын
For sure.
@brianmullins739
@brianmullins739 Жыл бұрын
@@highlandcycles Need to convince your buddy with the SX to pay you to put in a 6th gear. Then you would have an excuse to figure out how to do it. I bet you would get a lot of views on that one. Especially since no one else is likely to do it any time soon.
@6bt_str86
@6bt_str86 Жыл бұрын
As always bro. Good stuff (from the sweatbox of central fl) 🤘🏽
@my-max-media7621
@my-max-media7621 Жыл бұрын
Love my '17 SX 150 but wish it had another gear or 3. ???? What is top speed on the SX ????? And 250sx Thanks
@highlandcycles
@highlandcycles Жыл бұрын
Based on my XC I’m guessing top speed is maybe 60 wound out
@johnmarino6444
@johnmarino6444 Жыл бұрын
I have a question i just rode my 2023 250 sx and i had a few backfire when i shut the bike off when we stopped it happen twice. Also on our second ride of the day after a 15 mile ride we stopped for a few minutes. Went to leave the bike would not start. I Didn't use the cold start. The motor was warm It took 8 times and a little gas to start . Did this happen to anyone else?
@highlandcycles
@highlandcycles Жыл бұрын
Huh. Might be trying to foul a plug. Switch to a BR7ES
@NOTHERN_SINGLETRAK
@NOTHERN_SINGLETRAK Жыл бұрын
Did u say wifi module? Are they planing on making it like the YZ450s
@highlandcycles
@highlandcycles Жыл бұрын
Yes. That is the idea.
@JP-kr5vu
@JP-kr5vu Жыл бұрын
Question can the air forks work well for a 230lb rider by just increasing the pressure or do I need to do spring inserts? Thank you in advance
@highlandcycles
@highlandcycles Жыл бұрын
The air fork can work for any weight, just depends on what kind of terrain and what you’re looking for. They are the best at Moto and high speed stuff. The spring forks do better at the Rocky chunky stuff
@Bcalhoun4423
@Bcalhoun4423 Жыл бұрын
You or someone said you can’t swap tanks on the sx with the xc because the sx fuel pump won’t work in the xc tank. Not sure if that’s true or not.
@highlandcycles
@highlandcycles Жыл бұрын
I didn’t say it. I am going to figure out if that’s true
@Brandon-dd8dw
@Brandon-dd8dw Жыл бұрын
Anything yet?
@Bcalhoun4423
@Bcalhoun4423 Жыл бұрын
@@Brandon-dd8dw yes it works I have an sx pump in the xc tank on my 300sx
@matthewmcallister8845
@matthewmcallister8845 Жыл бұрын
According to parts numbers the XC and SX use the same pipe. Atleast according to the parts numbers listed on the KTM site.
@highlandcycles
@highlandcycles Жыл бұрын
Thanks man.
@Bcalhoun4423
@Bcalhoun4423 Жыл бұрын
XC rims are made by giant
@highlandcycles
@highlandcycles Жыл бұрын
Thanks
@Adventure_Squidz
@Adventure_Squidz Жыл бұрын
So the xc has a shorter 1st gear and second gear then a taller 3rd gear -5th gear so.its a wide ratio and the sx has more of a race/track bike
@highlandcycles
@highlandcycles Жыл бұрын
It isn't a w transmission but it is closer to one than they used to be. 1st is low and then they are evenly spaced. Further apart than the sx but closer than the W
@motoxmatt
@motoxmatt Жыл бұрын
Can a headlight, brake light and turning indicators be added to the 300 XC? I'm planning on moving to AZ and that's all they require for a plate. Thanks! Matt
@braaap6292
@braaap6292 Жыл бұрын
I've always bent up Excel wheels far easier than the D.I.Ds. Excels are a lot lighter though so that's the tradeoff.
@highlandcycles
@highlandcycles Жыл бұрын
I did some looking and I think the stock ones are not DID. They are some off brand thing. Still pretty good as long as you keep the spokes tight.
@charliekohn4271
@charliekohn4271 Жыл бұрын
I am still currently split. I rarely use 1st on my 18 xc though it has saved me botching a hill a few times and gets used mostly sweeping peewee races.
@highlandcycles
@highlandcycles Жыл бұрын
It’s a tough choice honestly.
@rogercrandall2705
@rogercrandall2705 Жыл бұрын
is the sx a 5spd?
@Bcalhoun4423
@Bcalhoun4423 Жыл бұрын
Yes
@ronhartle3268
@ronhartle3268 Жыл бұрын
What should we expect with the upcoming WiFi module?
@highlandcycles
@highlandcycles Жыл бұрын
I am expecting some access to mapping and code reading. Hoping for code clearing
@GNR325
@GNR325 Жыл бұрын
Also curious how much you can soften up the stock suspension for the trail. I know it's a moto bike so will still be very stiff, but just wondering between the SX and XC. I'm 205lbs without apparel.
@highlandcycles
@highlandcycles Жыл бұрын
It’s super adjustable honestly. In stock form it will never be crazy plush but it’s really not terrible
@GNR325
@GNR325 Жыл бұрын
@@highlandcycles Cool. Thanks. Looking forward to your ride video.
@barswapmedia
@barswapmedia Жыл бұрын
A huge reason for owning a KTM is a 6-speed transmission. I suppose it's for weight savings but I don't know why they wouldn't just put a 6-speed transmission in the SX it's not like it would hurt anything
@highlandcycles
@highlandcycles Жыл бұрын
I hear ya
@haroldsmith8454
@haroldsmith8454 Жыл бұрын
My 2014 125SX is a 6 speed trans.
@davidgrunklee8407
@davidgrunklee8407 Жыл бұрын
Please try backing off clickers to see if you can get stock sx acceptable offroad
@highlandcycles
@highlandcycles Жыл бұрын
I will for sure.
@chadguin
@chadguin Жыл бұрын
Just grabbed the SX. What you guys running for oil in transmission? You guys motorex or die?
@hammeredhitzracing6015
@hammeredhitzracing6015 Жыл бұрын
Awesome, excited to hear how the first ride on SX goes..
@alllen8839
@alllen8839 Жыл бұрын
Where did you get your linkage protector on the skidplate?
@highlandcycles
@highlandcycles Жыл бұрын
Enduro Engineering.
@ascendotuum
@ascendotuum Жыл бұрын
Hey Morgan, PLEASE help if you can. I picked up a 23 300sx, I always go SX and add an XC tank. KTM or anyone else cannot confirm if I can buy the XC tank only and use the SX pump. They use different fuel pumps but it may just be for the fuel indication. If the pumps are otherwise the same, and the place where the fuel is drawn is the same I should be good to go. Can you confirm? Also, thanks for all the videos, nice to ge the heads up before I start riding it.
@highlandcycles
@highlandcycles Жыл бұрын
I will try to check. I strongly think that you’d be fine with the SX pump. Of course, having two pumps wouldn’t be terrible. One with each tank so you can swap tanks quickly. I will probably get a second pump when I get another tank.
@ascendotuum
@ascendotuum Жыл бұрын
True, but the pumps aren’t cheap. I usually just leave the XC tank on for Moto, they don’t interfere too much. Thanks Morgan!
@highlandcycles
@highlandcycles Жыл бұрын
@@ascendotuum I hear ya. I’ll try to figure it out
@riders.oregon4474
@riders.oregon4474 Жыл бұрын
My 2021 xc has a thermostat. Does the 2023 xc and sx have one ?
@highlandcycles
@highlandcycles Жыл бұрын
No. Neither have a thermostat
@bikevault2302
@bikevault2302 Жыл бұрын
Hi Morgan, tell us more about the clicker settings
@highlandcycles
@highlandcycles Жыл бұрын
Will do
@brycedavis907
@brycedavis907 Жыл бұрын
It would be interesting to know if the shafts are the same. Might be nice to be able to mix and match ratios.
@my-max-media7621
@my-max-media7621 Жыл бұрын
Aren't the XC and XCW 6 speed, not 5 🤔. I highly doubt they'd work. SX wider physically I'm assuming.
@highlandcycles
@highlandcycles Жыл бұрын
I bet the shafts are the same actually. Just different drums and shift stars. And spacers to take the place of gears. I will try to remember to check the parts fiche
@brycedavis907
@brycedavis907 Жыл бұрын
@@highlandcycles I tried to find out if the shafts were the same, but I couldn't find a fiche for the sx tranny with the little looking I did.
@SeatTime
@SeatTime Жыл бұрын
When should I fly out for testing?
@highlandcycles
@highlandcycles Жыл бұрын
Now, We are doing it this weekend
@jasonlash544
@jasonlash544 Жыл бұрын
the new airbox cover is a dream to remove compared to my 2020
@highlandcycles
@highlandcycles Жыл бұрын
Totally
@GNR325
@GNR325 Жыл бұрын
Are the bearings and everything sealed the same on both bikes? Just curious as you would expect an XC bike might be built for different conditions.
@highlandcycles
@highlandcycles Жыл бұрын
Seem to be identical that way.
@GNR325
@GNR325 Жыл бұрын
@@highlandcyclesCool. If the power delivery is similar to the XC I may very well go SX. I looked at the gearing and the SX has the same first gear ratio as the pre '23 XC and 2nd gear is even a little lower.
@highlandcycles
@highlandcycles Жыл бұрын
@@GNR325 I will be riding it this weekend. I have a feeling it’s the same
@Tklatti01
@Tklatti01 Жыл бұрын
Have any more info on the bluetooth coming?
@highlandcycles
@highlandcycles Жыл бұрын
Not yet. Impatiently waiting
@brianmullins739
@brianmullins739 Жыл бұрын
Curious on what you think about the 5 speed in really tight trails, steep climbs, and high speed straights. Range with the SX tank? Stock suspension valving thoughts? Oh... and your channel is soooo freaking awesome! Thanks for doing what you do!
@highlandcycles
@highlandcycles Жыл бұрын
5 speed will be good in tight stuff (always in right gear) but would be less than optimal in high speed stuff. SX tank is probably only good for 35-40 Miles depending on where and how you ride. Suspension is going to feel really good at speed even in the Rocky stuff as long as it’s 2/3rd gear stuff.
@GNR325
@GNR325 Жыл бұрын
Me too. I really have no need to go more than 50 - 60 mph on my trails. I'm interested to hear if you think gearing down with a sprocket change would make 1st low enough for tight trails. Thanks for doing this!
@highlandcycles
@highlandcycles Жыл бұрын
@@GNR325 I think gearing down will make the tranny great for tight trails. I mainly like 6th for transfers down roads and the occasional desert race
@brianmullins739
@brianmullins739 Жыл бұрын
Oh... and does the additional air filter cover with more holes actually make a difference? I agree with your comment... my default would be not to use it to help keep the air filter clean.
@blessingslawn
@blessingslawn Жыл бұрын
So much ktm content. Puke lol
@richardhartley1705
@richardhartley1705 Жыл бұрын
Will still get the XC in the new year👍
@highlandcycles
@highlandcycles Жыл бұрын
I like the XC for all around.
@richardhartley1705
@richardhartley1705 Жыл бұрын
@@highlandcycles You certainly know how to spend my money Morgan lol👍
@goodboyringo9716
@goodboyringo9716 Жыл бұрын
If they make a 52 gear sprocket it would give a 3.71 with 14 front. Would that be a good way to bring the SX ( 3.5) gearing in line with he XC ? The XC gearing with the cool 6 speed is hard to beat. One other thing ... XC a trail bike but they put a front suspension so hard for the trails that " it's hard no matter what you do " ?
@highlandcycles
@highlandcycles Жыл бұрын
Depends on how you ride really. I don't mind mine at all in the easier rocky stuff.
@EricCogburn
@EricCogburn Жыл бұрын
Any difference in flywheel weight?
@highlandcycles
@highlandcycles Жыл бұрын
Not sure yet!
@Brandon-dd8dw
@Brandon-dd8dw Жыл бұрын
Will that xc tank fit the SX?
@highlandcycles
@highlandcycles Жыл бұрын
Yes
@siaknijustin
@siaknijustin Жыл бұрын
Are the cranks the same?
@highlandcycles
@highlandcycles Жыл бұрын
Don’t know yet.
@jvincent1960
@jvincent1960 Жыл бұрын
O-ring/X-ring chain?
@highlandcycles
@highlandcycles Жыл бұрын
No, forgot to mention that. It is a normal moto chain.
@zackeryconner2594
@zackeryconner2594 Жыл бұрын
I have the oem ktm WiFi module. It plugs in and lights up but the 300sx isn’t in their system yet. Maybe eventually
@highlandcycles
@highlandcycles Жыл бұрын
Dang. Where did you get that.
@zackeryconner2594
@zackeryconner2594 Жыл бұрын
I got it at my husqvarna/gasgas dealer. I’ve had it on my 21 ex350 and my 22 mc450. I mapped them through the husky app. Never had any issues.
@highlandcycles
@highlandcycles Жыл бұрын
@@zackeryconner2594 man, no one around here can get them. I’ll dig deeper
@zackeryconner2594
@zackeryconner2594 Жыл бұрын
Yeah apparently they are super hard to get now. Just got mine at the perfect time
@highlandcycles
@highlandcycles Жыл бұрын
@@zackeryconner2594 nice
@jamesoso259
@jamesoso259 Жыл бұрын
Really not the same bike at all out on the trail. The money it would cost you to get the sx close to an xc would make up the price difference
@highlandcycles
@highlandcycles Жыл бұрын
Depends on the trails you ride. Just took them both out and the SX isn't bad at all on our trails
@Michael-tf3ix
@Michael-tf3ix Жыл бұрын
Witch one will make a better snow bike?
@highlandcycles
@highlandcycles Жыл бұрын
Probably the SX
@chriszaeske5090
@chriszaeske5090 Ай бұрын
I bought a 24xc to put a timbersled on. What makes the sx a better option for that?
@Tklatti01
@Tklatti01 Жыл бұрын
Whats up
@highlandcycles
@highlandcycles Жыл бұрын
Yo
@elkwhisperer8065
@elkwhisperer8065 Жыл бұрын
Can you put a fan kit on the sx?
@highlandcycles
@highlandcycles Жыл бұрын
Yeah, the stator is the same as the XC as far as I know. But you need to use the Tusk one that draws half of what the TrailTech does.
@elkwhisperer8065
@elkwhisperer8065 Жыл бұрын
Awesome thank you for the reply, my local dealer has one of each the sx and xc so i was gonna get the sx to save money but i mostly ride the steep and slow stuff so I wanted to make sure the sx would work for that. What gearing would you recommend? And can I use the stock battery or do I need to change that out as well?
@oldheadneverlacking7010
@oldheadneverlacking7010 Жыл бұрын
What shift lever is that and is it bigger?
@highlandcycles
@highlandcycles Жыл бұрын
It’s longer and it’s a hammerhead
@oldheadneverlacking7010
@oldheadneverlacking7010 Жыл бұрын
@@highlandcycles everything I look up for my 300sx says, “does not fit your bike” annoying
@highlandcycles
@highlandcycles Жыл бұрын
@@oldheadneverlacking7010 I didn't buy this lever. The owner of the bike did. I am sure it is one from a 22 SX.
@oldheadneverlacking7010
@oldheadneverlacking7010 Жыл бұрын
@@highlandcycles good deal, that’s the answer I was looking for. Thanks sir. Merry Christmas and happy new year
@billboard1894
@billboard1894 Жыл бұрын
Change the piston it is junk
@highlandcycles
@highlandcycles Жыл бұрын
So far mine is ok. We will see though.
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