Highlight: Minnesota Ranked - But Why?

Decided to take the Minnesota for a spin in ranked for some dumb reason, ended up working better than expected. Ranked is so dumb though.
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[@Flamuu]

Don't bring Minnesota or Kansas to ranked please, ty. Also having the music excluded from the VOD makes the chat on screen so weird KEKW Discord: discord.gg/Flamu Stream: www.twitch.tv/flamuu Insta: instagram.com/flamugram/ Twitter: twitter.com/flamuchz

[@Arashmickey]

Chat still spams pasta faster than the window can keep up. Collectively, twitch chat smashes keyboards quicker than the eye can see. And they even sneak in emojis, it's impressive!

[@karstenbunde9465]

Have seen players bringing a Schultz to ranked and ending up being 1st of the winning team (and they were not even well known Super Unicums as far as their stats could tell). Me thinking that it is still more important who sits behind the keyboard. Personally need a Jean Bart or Georgia to end up being 1st and only a few times.

[@nikolaieh0624]

Ranked is so dum Yeah because random battles are peak iq

[@droidmotorola3884]

What you can bring for gold season is a vercock

[@SausageWithOranges]

Flamu radom question but how do you play an bad dpm upteired DD against great dpm topteir DD?

[@Outdated856]

Once again Streamer guy is abusing new players with OP ships... will this terror ever end?

[@darkhawk4863]

"Why does angling do nothing in this ship?" Because you can't angle a circle, Flamu. Just... look at the Minnesota, pretty sure the beam is wider than most cruisers are long, its FAT AF.

[@optimalkfrt]

You do realise it was Flamu who orignally said "you can't angle a circle"...?

[@darkhawk4863]

@@optimalkfrt Honestly, didn't remember if I'd heard it from him, Flambass or Trenlass, but knew I'd heard it before... Just, y'know, he asked. ;)

[@cainlolsson97]

It is in his Vermont video iirc that he says you can't angle a circle. And it is even more true with the Minnesota than the Vermont

[@07azrael]

You read it also in his chat Someone said so

[@123456789554332]

You were so preoccupied with whether you could, you didn't stop to think if you should.

[@sheevpalpatine539]

Dont worry flamu, i can still bring my “Good job Maerker”.....

[@sheevpalpatine539]

Note: i will not xD

[@Artem_Shepelev]

It's Good Job Merkel come on people stop mispronouncing this ship's name it's not that hard

[@frankvc5899]

Dew it

[@sheevpalpatine539]

@@frankvc5899 oh a star wars fan? A surprise to be sure, but a welcome one xD

[@Lyle_K]

@@sheevpalpatine539 hehe I get that reference

[@YouSietse]

only the most sophisticated of TDT viewers can decipher the cryptic messages that were being broadcast by chat during this battle

[@droidmotorola3884]

I was there. but watching it like this is funny

[@Bruh-id1qc]

It was just Noma: Brain Power right?

[@droidmotorola3884]

@@Bruh-id1qc yeah

[@RPGTKingpin]

I was about to say, I love how you can tell exactly what day this highlight was recorded purely based on the chat.

[@tijmen131]

And it's probably the Gachi brain power as well

[@gernhard.reinholdsen]

An Admiral like Kuznetsov with his biggest accomplishment being "saving the fleet from destruction" aka staying in port for four years is super op. Entertaining.

[@whoosah6289]

"ranked is so dumb" excuse me, what isn't in this game? 😂

[@kurumi394]

The art department yeah that's about it I think

[@fwootamala]

The Uninstall button...

[@u-bum]

CVs

[@agoogleuseranonymous2658]

Kuznetsov makes 20% of the stats lololol. Yeah Luigi ain't exactly a same weight counterpart.

[@k.b.4057]

There's also the fact that Sinop has 406 mm guns while Caracciolo has only 381s. And also better damage con, meaning it uptiers much better. So I'd argue, even without Kuznetsov, Sinop is better.

[@k.b.4057]

@@martinpalmer6203 Stats are a terrible argument. First, because (EU) only 300k battles were played on Caracciolo, while 2,3 million - on Sinop. So the data is not really comparable as new ships tend to have slightly higher stats in general. But even then, it does not support your theory, as Sinop has higher damage per battle in all ranges and only lower winrate when we look at top 5% (74,7% to 74,4%). Yes, the penetration is 50-60 mm better at almost all ranges (which is not really much tbh). But the reason why 16 inch guns are much better is the overmatch, which Caracciolo lacks. This is more than enough to call Sinop's guns better. Especially, in the current horrible T7 MM. Yes, it is more manoeuvrable but also more vulnerable. So while it can disengage easier, Sinop often times doesn't need to disengage at all. Also, about tanking capabilities, it's worth noting that Sinop has 2/3 of its firepower on the bow while Caracciolo - only 1/2. Not only can Sinop hold positions better, it can also deal more damage in the meantime. So... nope, Sinop is still better, sorry.

[@AresKusa]

8 381mm rifles with god-awful flukey accuracy vs 9 406mm rifles with passable accuracy - not even a contest. Sinop also has a better damage control and non-existent superstructure to better stand against HE spam, has better firing angles, and has more guns bow-forward for when you have to angle tank. Add on Sinop having 10k more health and a better rudder plus the potential for the hideously OP Kuznetsov captain makes it even more lopsided. Caracciolo doesn't compare at all.

[@grizzz6884]

@@martinpalmer6203 stats are bull shit , to easy to hid and save a star in the carracolo

[@florianbielawa2919]

Caracciolo as good as Sinop LMAO. That guy never saw the dispersion on the Caracciolo did he?

[@liamfreeman1812]

I mean at most ranges it has better dispersion than Sinop

[@andersonhernandez5282]

no only for that, i used to get R1, blapping CLs cos that SAP is amazing

[@BubiBubison]

In Ranked, even more at the beginning of the season, i experience the condensed potato-community of this game. Yesterday i went 7:0 with the Sinop by just not failing. People stop broadside in the middle of the map, torp teammates, shoot AP for minutes at the same angled BB or just don't ever take a cap.

[@arrrgee]

I can't work out if I'm smarter or dumber from watching this!

[@Josiah_Trelawny1]

9:50 Yep, thats minnesota. Ive suffered a lot while the grind.

[@tomkager4553]

Vermont is more shitty than Minnesota

[@jaywerner8415]

@@tomkager4553 At least vermont has 18inch guns. not Yamato big but still big.

[@repaleonhalo9754]

Yes it happened alot.. I couldnt get more then 1 or 2 hits on stationary cruisers.. But I honestly think the games aim assist is completely bugged and I never hear or see a video about it.. I always aim a bit higher cause im afraid all the shells will hit the water.. Its stupid, you aim perfect for citadel you hit the water with 11 shells.. You aim to high you overpens and shatters on turrets.. Aim in the middle and suddenly your despersion goes over and under!! Its for real bugged

[@terkbro1087]

I've suffured this a lot while grinding my german BBs ^^

[@Josiah_Trelawny1]

@@terkbro1087 at first i grind to Vermont and next to Kurfürst. It was hell. only line i had fun with was the american Cruiser Line (Des Moines and Worcester)

[@SWIFTY_WINS]

13:36 - YAAAAAASSSS!!! Ok good, so it's not just me then who's noticed with the new USN BB line that the much larger and fatter superstructures are seemingly allowing for many more full pens.

[@stevenwiederholt7000]

"Someone is dumber than I." HERE! :-)

[@kerotomas1]

220k dmg needed to win a 7v7... and some wonder why people generally ignore this clownfiesta ranked...

[@gabbygr7]

Stopped playing ranked when i realised i didnt had enough money to buy more painkillers for the headaches

[@tfs203]

Minnesota is now a Block 2, Virginia Class, fast attack Submarine. Has a cruising distance of "how far can you travel in 33yrs?"

[@SaiIor_Moon]

Honestly, I just build my Minnesota and use her like a T9 California playstyle-wise and it works well enough. Then again, I've played California extensively, so I'm strangely used to it lols!

[@timurkasymov162]

Flamu: Do not ram pls An ally in the chat at 9:35: Таран (Ram)

[@natep3851]

that stream chat... reminds me why i never watch streams

[@juubakka5463]

Exactly, if I was the streamer they would have all gotten a ban. Stupid copy pasta 12 year olds.

[@cedric1731]

Love how the 2 worst BBs in the game were 1st and 2nd

[@blork74]

enemy kansas was third on the enemy team so props to him as well

[@lightningstrike5024]

minna is not that bad tbh

[@atmosdwagon4656]

@@lightningstrike5024 Minnesota is really bad. Basically a giant floating citadel in a game where armor does fuck-all unless you're in a Stalinium Cruiser/BB.

[@lightningstrike5024]

@@atmosdwagon4656 well its citadel is below waterline, it has 38mm plating which is normal for usn bbs, it has pretty hefty broadside and it can use t9/10 usn bb dispersion mod and has good aa for a bb

[@faynk.6247]

LightningStrike 502 nah geogia and iowa have the same 38 mm armor and underwater citadel but can still go 32knt . Minne jave a hefty broadside but terrible reload kill it .

[@GiM_Retrospect]

Lol, I ran Vermont last season in ranked. It was quite effective, because of how frequently I was ignored or underestimated.

[@Pittigpiertje]

If you rly wanna lose your mind play fdg ranked:you will miss broadside musashi completely at

[@Dcarp7]

*Angry FDG Noises*

[@dominges]

At 10km? Did that to a broadside Seattle in less than 4km... FdG is for masochists... Right after that ''battle'' I just free exp-ed and that was my ONLY time I did that and I am here since beta! That's how bad, pardon, ''fun and engaging'' FdG is. Gneisenau has better dispersion at 16km than what FdG has at 3km but the later is t9, logic.

[@jaywerner8415]

So whats the point of 420mms other then Yamato gun sound? overmatching cruisers?

[@xixi6253]

@@jaywerner8415 none. you get slightly more alpha and pen at the cost of reload, 420 don't pass a significant overmatch threshold (divide caliber by 14.3 to get overmatch value)

[@xmlthegreat]

I'm not surprised, I've seen so many horrifying potato teams is not even funny. Atlanta and Fijis who don't know what Island cover is, Z-31 that think just because there's no radar he can cap... The list is endless

[@mazda_rt24-p]

Lol I am struggling to get past bronze because well, win one or two games then loose the rest. I've been back and forth between rank 5 and 4 at least 3 times

[@Adplosive]

You're not the only one dude, me and my clan mates, all good players getting 2+ kills a game basically rage quit from ranked dumb plays yesterday. I had games where I stopped 3 people pushes with torps only for my team to push in and die, it's infuriating.

[@smw211]

Frosty Fire Tree camo on a Minnesota is pretty much a floating present for the red team, lol...

[@Chuuuulet]

You said it in the stream but I like how there is no music but we can see the chat spamming the pasta

[@theSl33p3r62]

glad to know it's not just me with shit tier dispersion at 5km with a broadside

[@hulohyou8536]

0:28, "Yeah I can go secure the cap real quick" Yeah right 'Real quick'

[@davhot4107]

That's the reason for me to buy the Pommer. The ship is really a "mini-kurstfurst" on tier 9. And sometimes people don't know they can launch torpedos. I killed several CCs when they try to neak up for a citadel hit on my sides just with torps.

[@07azrael]

How is possible to meet several CCs in battles?

[@davhot4107]

@@07azrael Because yes? It's a common ship.

[@Sporting1210]

yah-ranked is kinda dumb and yet it is more fun then random these days.

[@jaywerner8415]

Probably due to less ships, which means less "randomness" happens.

[@Federalist10TN]

I bid you farewell Flamu, have fun going under 100K again...

[@ricokowalski]

9:50 A full pen: 2000 dmg; An overpen: 5500 dmg. nice work wg!

[@NohopenowEEEEE]

Pommer scariest secondary’s known to man…. POV war gaming just a few months after this vid: Schlieffen sounds like a good idea….

[@Daanlikkewaan]

When I saw the title I thought we were laughing at someone else's choice.....

[@fipsvonfipsenstein6704]

I just noticed that all the cool WoWs-guys are starting their rounds by being afk lately. So I tried that out as well. Karma -10.

[@Borzoi-appreciator]

I don't even need to hear the music to know what song is playing

[@eurocentrist1194]

Heh, you should see all the z-31's in Bronze. I'm convinced that the average player just associates new ships with OP, which isn't a bad assumption to make nowadays but with Germans they should really know better.

[@johnvdk9936]

Don't think so. Many people are now grinding there ships in Ranked. They don't care about winning. German DD's are the newest line so they take them to Ranked just like some do with the Italian and latest US BB's. Ranked games usually take less time than Random and give you similar XP. Downside of this is that the number of idiots in your team determines if you win or loose, not the number of good players. They can not make up for the stupidity of the potatoes (no offence).

[@grizzz6884]

@@johnvdk9936 hit the nail on the head . we need a win only game mode . i spoted 6 ships in a dd for 1000 spotting damage . my team were behind islands

[@TallulahSoie]

There's a lot going on here, but I'm triggered by the 38 second reload. And I love my fat slow BBs.

[@jaywerner8415]

Eh as someone that plays the Oklahoma every now and again, ya kinda get used to it. could probably use a small reload buff though.

[@Wischmob_vE]

I absolutely love how music is muted, but you know what song is playing and what part it is on thanks to chat.

[@anubhavmathur9823]

Lmao you’ve played so much with MalteseKnight that you vocabulary is pretty much his now

[@kurumi394]

You had a Friedrich der Gross incompetence on your side

[@isorukuyamamoto9168]

Minnesota is one of my top pics for Ranked. It is incredibly powerful, pretty tanky & even relatively stealthy. Its slow, but thats genuinely its only true downside IMO.

[@jerichom11x]

Banging your head to music that we can't hear. Looks hilarious

[@alexwells225]

Flamu is a walking, talking shitpost... and I love it.

[@simonebordin6440]

"if Ship A can have Kuznetsov and ship B can not have Kuznetsov , then Ship A is fucking better" said a wise man wile playing Minasota in ranked. Oh flamu please never change.

[@CetoFreakingKaiba]

god bless the guy who suggested you play the Minnesota ranked in the livestream

[@garrettgsf8849]

4 out of 7 ships in each team are BBs... maybe WG should finally consider limiting BBs?

[@danh7411]

They already did, 4 is the hard cap

[@garrettgsf8849]

@@danh7411 4 out of 7 is way too many BBs. Why are we even surprised that no one plays cruisers anymore?

[@danh7411]

@@garrettgsf8849 looking right at the match I'm playing rn A lot

[@lennyfieldy]

Minnesöda is the exact opposite of a ship you use for ranked (imo). Slow reload, no speed, no armor, no pushing potential, easy target for DDs.

[@not2tired]

9:46 You accidentally used the "Kawachi" consumable just before firing

[@grizzz6884]

3. 04 , what if ship a has a farmer at the helm . i thought lower teir ranked would be good idea on sea , and it is from the point of view that teir ten radoms is not to bad for now

[@jimk8592]

That FDG could have helped finish the match a long time ago, yet he was one of the main reasons it was almost lost... So many horror stories in ranked... Totally inexperienced players bringing not fully researched ships without trained commanders is also very common. WG's playerbase: Salem with about 25k matches asks "what's the difference between a Des Moines and a Salem", he ends up being first blood at about 3 min in the match, his overall winrate 38%....

[@grizzz6884]

WG's , make all their money from from new player's , another way to get some good match making is to rage quit and go play another game , they can see what you play in discord . the next day i get good match making

[@JafuetTheSame]

You should install "Unique Camuflage Plus" mod by TheKingOfUm. I can't get how someone is still able to look at these horrid regular camos.

[@MrTrool323]

I don't need to know what the soundtrack is like....because there is only 1 that fits the moment Damn gachi

[@osanixian1499]

9:47 ah i see my luck made it in a flamu vid

[@Dukenukem]

The Iowa is running Type 2 camo, the chapo 4% dispersion only. what player...

[@hq21]

Ah, USS Minnesota. What a nice way to honor Fentanyl Floyd on his special day.

[@SalvaBarbus]

Imagine not knowing Brain Power by heart at this point in time KEKW

[@DocHock67]

I took the Anshan (Tier 6 DD) to go through bronze and ibuki (one of my last grind lines) for the quali to silver

[@adityachanifindhraputra7824]

Minnesota in the hand of my "Master"! GG uncle Flamu 😆👍

[@rpra6435]

for a noob like i was in WOWS - this video is information that Minnesota do not have any real armor.

[@LiveErrors]

Now we know who would win og Yamato ever got in a Battleship Fight, even with All that American firepower she still Couldnt Hurt a Yamato Class

[@solanine6452]

9:50 Overpen for 5k😂 nice weegee logic

[@jonnydepth7530]

I fvcked in my Riga a Pommern and a Bismarck in close quarter (and I mean 0,5 km) in the same match and still survive + won the match

[@顾羽-i9n]

The RNG is the only god in WOWS.

[@padanfain7466]

Er wut? Side on Musashi, 4 shells hit same spot...1 citadel...er wut?

[@Gilvaras]

9:45 Dispersion in WoWs in a nutshell.

[@matthiasdarrington3271]

Those BB players, not a single one using crossfire, all grouping up like apes...

[@timknight68]

Finally got into Vermont. 16 point captain skilled for concealment, tank and turrets. What a waste of three weeks' straight grinding from New York. WeeGee should make a Vermont skin with a target on it and "Farm Me" painted in big flaming letters. So utterly disappointed.Battleships have been orphaned by WeeGee. Going back to my Yugumo, get Shika and farm with the rest of 'em... so sadIf HE DoT was equal to the max value of that projectile as opposed to the percentage of the target ship's hp then I'd not have much complaint. But getting farmed to death by a DD and Light Cruiser is wildly unbalanced. No wonder folks choose the HE spam meta since WeeGee is so intent on protecting and rewarding it.

[@jaywerner8415]

wow that chat spam is annoying. Ya the American DREADNAUGHT line has very WIERD armor. Like due to the roundness of some of the plate angling is actually kinda bad, also doesn't Minnesota's torp belt go ALL THE WAY UP THE SHIP unlike Kansas? So in theory the Enemy gets a bunch of torp protection hits. Plunging fire also really sucks due to how thick all the plating is.

[@erlienfrommars]

Flamu's team mates or WG devs, who's dumber?

[@Herastheblackwolf]

sinop caracciolo discussing. I would agree, that the C is quite strong, even though its italian, but sinop does have a higher caliber, is way more tanky, B E T T E R dispersion,....

[@marcingrzybek8516]

About Kuznetsov... Are we about ships or captains?

[@Ben-fk9ey]

Good on you for calling Zoup out on his shit, hopefully he gets dropped from the CC program or better for it.

[@Blarggnugget]

If you don't mind, what happened?

[@shinki5361]

I'd like to know as well

[@evster7flick]

twitter.com/flamuchz/status/1396077384655380481?s=21

[@Blarggnugget]

@@evster7flick thank you

[@optimalkfrt]

@@RockyRoadRage Thank you for this post, sanity and respect for free speech is too rare nowadays.

[@alinmeleandra3175]

if losing to Kansas should make you uninstall the game... what should I do if I lost to a tashkent in a fricking DM... (well... he outplayed my so hard that I cried like a baby for a hour after that...)

[@HybridRenoII]

Lol she's too slow which is sad as that's my home state but ya I wouldn't bring her to ranked unless the buffed speed Pommern all the way for tier 9 ranked BB that said I'm good in her but she's too slow

[@droidmotorola3884]

Yeah this thing is really annoying when is shooting you. So that’s why when you see you need to kill it and fast.

[@Sarphendon]

Please don't think this is what Minnesota gameplay looks like...its actually a horrible experience to be in this BB

[@christophersmith9074]

i dont have the russen super cap but the only super cap i have is yama and it took my 3 3/4 years to get it

[@kelso331]

Hey Flamu, your commander voice-line is VERY familiar to mine with the kong skin idk why though. Might just be a bug.

[@Italianstallion-v2f]

Don’t you badmouth big minni.

[@Herastheblackwolf]

but why... ?

[@josebonet4779]

Explain to me how its possible black dies against 2 bbs.

[@Cactusjugglertm]

Dramaqueen.

[@easyhistory8126]

What happened to the music?

[@1_2_die2]

What is it with naked ships... no camo at all?!

[@yatzeegamingop]

Will you have an update on Zoup and his shitshow ?

[@SgtSteel1]

What the hell was going on in your chat?

[@freetolook3727]

Clickity-clack, don't look back!

[@Schnatterinchen]

Flamu not everyone has special commanders ^^

[@eze8970]

Well played!

[@MarcAle07]

Not everyone has Kuznetzov!

[@TimeToSnitch]

Was war eigentlich dein höchster Rang?

[@boristhebarbarian]

that chat spammer at 14:00 (flamu chat, not game chat) is that normal or a DDS attack or what??

[@danh7411]

That's normal for Twitch chat

[@grassmann028]

You asked why angling does nothing in that ship Try angling a football

[@김욱현-l6s]

14:00 wow chat mad

[@samuelodonnell2399]

That spam in chat flashing non stop for half the battle isn't at all annoying.

[@insanemaniac9317]

Can't angle Minnesota because you can't angle s circle

[@apatricks.5499]

Minnesota so slow,you need paddles.