Highlights: Election Debate: Immigration, law and order

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@j2174
@j2174 6 ай бұрын
I am a legal immigrant and I want immigration to be drastically cut. Its ridiculous all of these loopholes
@bettylou3909
@bettylou3909 6 ай бұрын
Why u come here we all hope deported alots of them I will voting reform to stop this .!!!!
@ehudkirsh766
@ehudkirsh766 6 ай бұрын
Same here
@j2174
@j2174 6 ай бұрын
Having an actual conversation about who is a legitimate refugee and who is not, is NOT scapegoating and demonising. Its just as disingenuous to use this tactic to shut down conversation as it is to make blanket statements about refugees.
@xena2559
@xena2559 6 ай бұрын
No to illegal migration. No to immigration pact.
@larrydickman5936
@larrydickman5936 6 ай бұрын
What about the diversity?
@janpetersen7440
@janpetersen7440 7 ай бұрын
I'm pretty sure immigration (legal and illegal) will also be a hot topic in the 2029 election.
@morizwan123
@morizwan123 7 ай бұрын
and in decades to come
@vincentl.9469
@vincentl.9469 6 ай бұрын
@@morizwan123 if you add up all the places in the world where it's not 'good' to live or dangerous or whatever, that adds up to millions of people. A point lost on the useless Green party, The Welsh & Svottish. 'Dog Whistle' politics . People MUST wake up
@stephenhill545
@stephenhill545 6 ай бұрын
An ageing population which is not reproducing itself has to be supplemented by migration, otherwise the economy will shrink and the people will become poorer. It's a choice.
@mrmeldrew693
@mrmeldrew693 6 ай бұрын
It was a hot topic when Gordon Brown had his, 'bigot gate' moment........we have had promises for decades.
@jos9105
@jos9105 6 ай бұрын
always have been. It was the main reason why we had brexit and destroyed the economy.
@miket9724
@miket9724 6 ай бұрын
Army barracks not fit for migrants but absolutely fine for me and my fellow servicemen and women? Cheers love, glad to know we're appreciated.
@alynwillams4297
@alynwillams4297 6 ай бұрын
What does that tell you about how the government treat you both tho. And has always been the same
@Brad-l4s
@Brad-l4s 6 ай бұрын
@miket9724. On the topic of being appreciated, the RAF told white men they need not even apply. That was swept under the carpet and forgotten quite quickly. Just imagine the media frenzy if the shoe had been on the other foot!
@gdnygma490
@gdnygma490 6 ай бұрын
yea but you was in the army .. your not meant to live like that
@Checkit666
@Checkit666 6 ай бұрын
Exactly this is why I’m voting Reform our military services and their families deserve a lot better than they are getting.
@alynwillams4297
@alynwillams4297 6 ай бұрын
@@Checkit666 Reform are just another posh boys club. Let’s be totally honest here the UK government have never in their history looked after soldiers that have come back from war, ever. The closest to it was the building of council houses in the late 1940s and early 50s which they promised would be fit for a king. These council estates are now falling apart. Oh and the introduction of the NHS.
@gerardhampson9089
@gerardhampson9089 7 ай бұрын
700 turned up this weekend again on the boats, no wonder Labour will have to put taxes up , how do we keep affording this , all we get told is don't complain your racist.
@alexanstey1742
@alexanstey1742 6 ай бұрын
They have to put taxes up because the Tories have slashed funding to public services to the point where nothing works as it should. It has nothing to do with immigration and everything to do with corruption as we have just witnessed the largest exchange of public funds into the pockets of the wealthiest in society all whilst living under government enforced austerity. Stop blaming immigrants for everything.
@hermanmunster3358
@hermanmunster3358 6 ай бұрын
You're ffs, YOU'RE!
@KamranDenizer-v2p
@KamranDenizer-v2p 6 ай бұрын
Then paths of legal migration should be made easier and more efficient. When your country has been pillaged for decades where else do you go to get a better life?Desperation is powerful and thats why people cross the channel like this
@neanda
@neanda 6 ай бұрын
@@hermanmunster3358 not everyone spends their time perfectly crafting YT comments, they just want to get their point across and get on with their lives. maybe you should write a book or teach english rather than spend it nit picking comments on the internet, haha so fkn sad 🤣
@hermanmunster3358
@hermanmunster3358 6 ай бұрын
@@neanda Capital 'N' on Not, and capital 'M' on Maybe!
@littlerollingwheels
@littlerollingwheels 6 ай бұрын
no, no more refugees or immigrants, enough is enough
@fragfmgill
@fragfmgill 6 ай бұрын
It won't stop because your too polite. Muhammed taking your job, house, car and women and you grunt over the internet.
@lionroar26
@lionroar26 6 ай бұрын
​@@fragfmgill You do know most immigrants to the UK are from Poland & India. Fact check before you flap your gums. The real issue is UK has never taught it's gammon population about British values of freedom of choice and religion. The gammons only see hijabis and men with beards and salwar kameez. The real issue has always been about colour.
@adds-kz3oc
@adds-kz3oc 6 ай бұрын
​@lionroar26 bit racist to generalise an entire population of white people. Oh the irony.
@shahidzareef2013
@shahidzareef2013 6 ай бұрын
​@@fragfmgillWell if you wage wars on other countries ie Iraq Libya Afghanistan Syria and some areas in pakistan as well and now in Palestine what do you expect where the people will go when you destroy village cities tribes well atleast show some compassion or stand up to your gov policies so they can't wage a war.
@davidmccormick4735
@davidmccormick4735 6 ай бұрын
@@lionroar26 Sanctimonious ignorance. You do know 172,000,000 Muslims live in India??? You do know the average Muslim couple has 4+ children???
@deniseoxland151
@deniseoxland151 6 ай бұрын
I thought this was supposed to have a cross section of people, same as the BBC you only get positive comments about immigration, where are the negative comments ???
@MrFergusferret
@MrFergusferret 6 ай бұрын
The current immigration is unsustainable
@brosephyolonarovichstalin2915
@brosephyolonarovichstalin2915 6 ай бұрын
Yes it’s economic suicide and it was pretty clearly like that 10 years ago. So what did they do? Ramped up the numbers and pumped even more in. Absolutely ridiculous.
@tdevry
@tdevry 6 ай бұрын
Yes, absolutely. On top of that taxes are soaring and people are getting poorer.
@davidwhite8045
@davidwhite8045 7 ай бұрын
Why is it that the media allow these people to just argue across each other, set some rules PLEASE
@woody00011
@woody00011 6 ай бұрын
And this video is a surprisingly tame & civil example. I was shocked to see Tice somewhat patiently respond to Daisy Cooper with a question and then she was allowed to actually talk and answer it.
@tdevry
@tdevry 6 ай бұрын
Misplaced compassion. Do the people getting all the privilege and welfare after arrival display gratitude? What they do is demand more and insist that things should become like the places they "fled" from.
@arundeya22
@arundeya22 6 ай бұрын
Re-Farage. One note that dominates the debate. NHS, housing, education, social care, all down to immigration. Great for the Tory's to blame everyone else except themselves.
@sonofsomerset1695
@sonofsomerset1695 6 ай бұрын
And you think an extra 700k+ people a year dont need any of those? Youve watched too much left wing propaganda.
@DanPhillips-in6qn
@DanPhillips-in6qn 6 ай бұрын
If you are in favour of mass immigration, you are in favour of more traffic on roads , more queues in shops, more crowded beaches and beauty spots in summer, more overcrowding in high streets, more overflowing bins, more sewerage in rivers as more people use water and flush toilets, less free seats on trains, and just generally everything feeling more and more busy with each passing year that this madness carries on for. Oh and less and less countryside as.more and more building needs to be done in a deranged and futile effort to keep up. Sounds like a great future.....
@sonofsomerset1695
@sonofsomerset1695 6 ай бұрын
Labour voters will never get it, not very bright at all.
@fragfmgill
@fragfmgill 6 ай бұрын
I think the Labour guy was right to say goodbye when the white lady said she might move, you should move away, get out of UK your not wanted. Give your house to Muhammed.
@clemedwards5563
@clemedwards5563 6 ай бұрын
your forgetting more people on benifits, more people flooding the NHS, more cultural inrichment, etc
@colinlock-lv9vv
@colinlock-lv9vv 6 ай бұрын
@@clemedwards5563 WHY DO THEY WANNA GO TO BEACH THEY COVERED HEAD TO TOE IN CLOTHING DONT LIKE MEAT OR ALCOHOL
@LWD1099
@LWD1099 6 ай бұрын
That's why ReformUK is the best chance to stop the mass migration and put some cash back in tax payers pockets
@Teasehirt
@Teasehirt 6 ай бұрын
Bias BS is off the scale CH4 calls itself an independent political broadcaster. Do me a favour. I will be Voting for Reform UK.
@Undergroundaristocrat2578
@Undergroundaristocrat2578 6 ай бұрын
Reform has undeniably performed best in each and every debate. I see no genuine reason why a shift in focus from the Tory party, which has been proven ineffective, to Reform should not be the general consensus among right-wing British voters.
@MT-ys6ju
@MT-ys6ju 6 ай бұрын
I think the UK and Europe has done more than enough for refugees.. It's time other safe countries start pulling their weight and start taking in refugees too.
@pablogarrido9255
@pablogarrido9255 6 ай бұрын
The migration must be controlled and regulated. We can not help every single human being who lives in poverty or is fleeing from war. Unfortunately,it is really sad, but it's politician fault.
@mimo5853
@mimo5853 7 ай бұрын
Why do people from all over the world think they have a “right” to enter, live in and become citizens of the UK?!? Why do they think they are “owed” kindness, respect, compassion, a “right to work”, “free” housing, legal assistance, food, clothing etc??? Do they really think there is an UNLIMITED pool of money in the UK to take care of every poor person in the world??? Do they really think their comfort, care and happiness is the responsibility of UK citizens and UK taxpayer money??? This is absurd!
@clytontravasso6488
@clytontravasso6488 7 ай бұрын
Chickens coming home to roost, for 200 years Britain went to india robbed them off their wealth, and that's why so see so many brown people, tbf indians are the most hardworking immigrants this country has
@stephenhill545
@stephenhill545 6 ай бұрын
Because we are a Christian culture.
@3PiD3MiCGX
@3PiD3MiCGX 6 ай бұрын
Because The UK colonized most of the world and fucked their economies.
@StumpyFencepost
@StumpyFencepost 6 ай бұрын
Where is your compassion. These people, if they were allowed to work, would contribute massively to the country if given the chance. They are propping up our social care and NHS
@JonnyMc7
@JonnyMc7 6 ай бұрын
@@StumpyFencepostBasically reform voters are the type of people who moan at people who are doing well in life like their neighbour who has a lovely family car and enjoying life but won’t get off their backside and better themselves and enjoy theirs.
@user-ey6rz3fv5y
@user-ey6rz3fv5y 6 ай бұрын
Vote reform UK sunak has broken his promise he will never stop the small boats
@sv9950
@sv9950 6 ай бұрын
You vote reform for this only, then what about the economy, education, health, security infrastructure... what are they proposing? Just blaming immigration will not solve all problems.
@lakelife8757
@lakelife8757 7 ай бұрын
Elderly care costs are unsustainable. My 99 year old aunt is currently paying almost £75,000 a year in care costs, and that price rises each year. So far she has paid over £250,000 in care fees for a small room! Her home has been sold to fund her care. What are the panel proposing to do about this growing social care problem?
@maniac3173
@maniac3173 7 ай бұрын
That's the logical thing to do. She won't need the home once she passes on. This is common practice throughout the country and part of the financial assessment by care providers. The alternative is for family to care for her, and that way the home remains and can be passed down the family.
@souxcasa
@souxcasa 7 ай бұрын
That is incredible! I really hope it gets better for you and your aunt
@souxcasa
@souxcasa 7 ай бұрын
@@maniac3173 yeah but £75000 a year? That's crazy. Very few people have that money
@user-fw5tr8ht1e
@user-fw5tr8ht1e 7 ай бұрын
​@@souxcasa Private care homes are about making money... Simple. Staff are on minimum wage.
@maniac3173
@maniac3173 7 ай бұрын
@@souxcasa That's where the property comes in. The cost of a nursing home is around 75,000 and care home is a little less around 60,000 on average per year. There are financial support from the local council and NHS which are assessed by financial and needs. Some councils can contribute as much as £600 a week or more. If financial assistance is not available then it's very likely due to the elderly being quite well off. It sure does look like an astronomical amount but often not realised the amount of time and care that is provided. On average 3 to 4 nursing staff and admin, along with medical equipment are funded for with that figure. If you do the maths it really is not enough to provide quality care even then. A carer alone should expect to be paid around the £30k+ region but reality is more than one carer is required.
@rokaskarabevicius
@rokaskarabevicius 6 ай бұрын
If it was genuine asylum seekers, there would be equal amount of men and women.
@mwd331
@mwd331 6 ай бұрын
Would it?
@jimmyb79
@jimmyb79 6 ай бұрын
@@mwd331Obviously, are you soft or something?
@sirrusly
@sirrusly 6 ай бұрын
@@mwd331 Yes.
@mwd331
@mwd331 6 ай бұрын
@@sirrusly based on what? Are there studies showing this to be the case?
@sirrusly
@sirrusly 6 ай бұрын
@@mwd331 Based on something rare nowadays that I like to call 'common sense'. Tell me, how many countries can you name that have and adult male demographic that exceeds 80% of the population?
@justinparsons6201
@justinparsons6201 7 ай бұрын
No way, my Mother in Law is costing us, £1500 per week, and that down in the middle of nowhere Devon. The country is being robbed at all levels.
@justinparsons6201
@justinparsons6201 7 ай бұрын
No offence Devon. I really do love that part of the world.
@sophiemoconnell
@sophiemoconnell 7 ай бұрын
Ditto! I love Devon too!
@Teasehirt
@Teasehirt 6 ай бұрын
When is immigration too much ???????
@fragfmgill
@fragfmgill 6 ай бұрын
To these people? never and your nuts to even ask.
@robertanderson6776
@robertanderson6776 6 ай бұрын
Isn't 700 thousand net every year to much.
@neilp7024
@neilp7024 7 ай бұрын
As if these ppl are screened before they get on the show, this is BBC LITE
@Superlativ1
@Superlativ1 6 ай бұрын
So under the Lib Dems someone comes on a boat, we'll pay for their 3 months in a hotel or luxury home, they get fast tracked and if we can't process them within 3 months they get to work. How about sending every single one back that came on a boat and blacklisting them from ever applying for asylum, if they want to come in, follow the appropriate channels.
@Pauli-tm2zt
@Pauli-tm2zt 7 ай бұрын
Riddle me this; If immigration is sooo great for the countries economic health and wellbeing then why did we have years of forced governmental austerity policy inflicted on us, directly followed by the current never ending inflation and cost of living crisis? Where is the great economic bonanza from all these decades of this mass immigration? Because it seems to me like we are all slowly getting poorer and poorer as time goes by. Although, the rich do seem to be getting richer.
@robertvel4051
@robertvel4051 7 ай бұрын
Because immigration isn’t the only factor that affects an economy. You hit the nail on the head with austerity that has caused the economy to stagnate. Also if the migrants are not allowed to work then they cant contribute to the economy.
@ryanyates5365
@ryanyates5365 7 ай бұрын
Immigrants aren't great for your own personal wealth unless they're working for you or contributing a lot in taxes. They're a direct competitor for jobs, I get it. However, they're also not the reason we're all getting poorer. If you're born here, you're educated, vaccinated, maybe some child benefits, maybe ongoing treatment for a condition or two, maybe you go to university: add that all up, and that's a lot of "debt" you or I owe the treasury before you've even earned a penny at the age of 21+. Then we expect a state pension on top of that. Economic migrants and asylum seekers that come to the UK have had none of their education, health, benefits, etc paid for by the UK - they literally owe the UK nothing. So when a migrant arrives on a boat to earn whatever they can and live a better life, just remember how much we (as British born citizens) owe to the state, before we start pointing the finger at an immigrant whose cost of arrival is, at most, a fraction of the cost of running the rescue boat to drag them out of the English channel! That's why governments will never "take back control" of borders. They have plenty of control already (even in the EU!). They choose not to use it because the financial arguments for using it don't stack up.
@JonnyMc7
@JonnyMc7 7 ай бұрын
You don’t get it because you’re not so bright then. Lots of immigrants haven’t been processed to work so haven’t been able to contribute and help economy. Tories crashed the economy causing austerity under funding public services wasting money on Rwanda scheme the list endless
@Pauli-tm2zt
@Pauli-tm2zt 7 ай бұрын
@@robertvel4051 When are you defenders of open borders going to realize that mass immigration is used by the wealthy classes as a tool of cheap labour to keep the wages of the local working classes nailed to the floor?
@vincentl.9469
@vincentl.9469 6 ай бұрын
@@robertvel4051 would you trust ANY of those guys coming over by boat to look after your Gran or sick relative?? You may feel sorry in the beginning but once settled , you will wish you never had !! bunch of animals
@4x4r974
@4x4r974 6 ай бұрын
10:57 I will NEVER understand this talking point: pay more staff to accept more people faster. how does this solve immigration? It solves nothing. Plus, the UK is legally UNABLE to deport most people because their countries as seen as "unsafe"
@Tomor81
@Tomor81 6 ай бұрын
I do not even need to know anything good or bad about immigration, but I am very sure that any nation should not readily open to strangers. I do not believe in the dream of a beautiful multicultural society.
@0saintclark0
@0saintclark0 6 ай бұрын
I'm getting sick of seeing Daisy Cooper and Carla Denyer, such smug faces. Can't their parties find anyone else to put forward for these debates?
@amiraking6688
@amiraking6688 6 ай бұрын
Carla Denver is brilliant. Interesting that you pointed out the two women on the panel and that’s it. It’s giving misogyny.
@0saintclark0
@0saintclark0 6 ай бұрын
​@@amiraking6688nice try. I pointed out the only two people on the panel who had been involved in every single debate so far, every other party had sent different people at different times - including women. Nothing to do with their gender.
@NuttiGoat
@NuttiGoat 6 ай бұрын
@@amiraking6688 And if it had been a black MP, you'd have thrown the racist accusation.
@HusseinDoha
@HusseinDoha 6 ай бұрын
🤡Lib Dem : “Get rid of salary threshold”. 🤡Lib Dem : [in the same sentence] “we will have a higher minimum wage for care workers”
@yourmother211
@yourmother211 6 ай бұрын
Salary thresholds for migrants has almost nothing to do with careworkers tgat are already here mate
@ehudkirsh766
@ehudkirsh766 6 ай бұрын
Increase salary to doctors and nurses, but increase income tax to those highest paid 😂
@prodlowd
@prodlowd 6 ай бұрын
Labour is correct. We need to train workers here so we aren't dependant on overseas workers.
@jaimiecross2744
@jaimiecross2744 6 ай бұрын
Agreed … But will they cut the numbers !?! I highly doubt it.
@prodlowd
@prodlowd 6 ай бұрын
@@ADNZ5442 yeah I think all parties agree on it, but the right hasn't implemented it for the past 14 years
@fragfmgill
@fragfmgill 6 ай бұрын
You mean Reform is correct. We need to train workers here so we aren't defendant on overseas workers.
@fragfmgill
@fragfmgill 6 ай бұрын
@@prodlowd you think labour will? don't be daft there all internationalists, you heard em.
@Millennial1993
@Millennial1993 6 ай бұрын
I work in back of house in hospitality pay is rubbish long hours with anti social hours every chef 95% of chefs with kids will not ever consider thier kids to become chefs so my question is that how do you expect young workers to get in this gruelling work and majority who join leave the industry within 5 years
@hermanmunster3358
@hermanmunster3358 6 ай бұрын
Yes Krishnan, since those FIRST "Small Boats" or Coracles, arrived on this Green and, once PLEASANT land, all those Millennia ago, we, THE BRITISH, have been through MANY struggles, wars, and bloodshed, to establish a common ground, and a relative peace, LONG BEFORE any Brown People like your parents or grand parents began to arrive within the last 70-80 years, a relative BLINK of an eye in OUR History. We developed a common culture, common law, and a shared purpose to make this land the best it could be, just like other Mono Cultures, as are prevalent in India, Pakistan, China, and most African countries for instance. Since then, we have WELCOMED people, like you, from different cultures. On the understanding that they too would embrace what we have built, and help to maintain, and build upon it. And that Krishnan, has largely been the case, for a few decades. However, in the last 20-30 years or so, we have witnessed a change in our society, whereby a LOT of people who are now arriving here, have NO INTENTION to embrace our long estsblished culture, and indeed, seem hellbent on destroying all that we have achieved, causing chaos, abd conflict in their wake, even much worse in many cases. And THERE IS, overwhelmingly, one COMMON DENOMINATOR in all of it, those people, causing ALL of this Chaos, are people who look like YOU, Krishnan, or maybe those of a creed a few shades darker, but barely do they speak English as eloquently as yourself, well done you! So forgive us if we have the ability to PICK OUT, and RECOGNISE the Common Denominator, it might not be so easy, if it were not so GLARINGLY OBVIOUS! Racism is defined as "An irrational Dislike or Hatred of a people, based on their Racial Origin or Culture" It does not define RACISM as people who want to DEFEND their Race and Culture, from those who wish to infiltrate, and destroy it from within, which is EXACTLY what we are seeing now. And many studies have been done, and stats collated which COROBORATE that fact. You can clutch your "Race Card" and bang your fist as much as you like Krishnan, but the fact is, the REAL Racists, are those who do not share, nor want to embrace what is on offer here. So it is fair and fitting, that WE, who are the overwhelming majority, with a shared history and heritage stretching back THOUSANDS of years, REJECT the intentions of Newcomers, should we deem their intentions to be Destructive or Hostile, in any way shape or form. This is Britain, OUR Country, and OUR BIRTHRIGHT, the LEGACY left to us by our Ancestors. YOUR Legacy Krishnan, lies elsewhere!
@TheHeninhardenne
@TheHeninhardenne 6 ай бұрын
Vote reform, there needs to be an end to a two party system. Two party isn't that much different from communism's dictatorship.
@itwasntme8667
@itwasntme8667 6 ай бұрын
Using the Romans as an example of people coming accross on boats is a false equivalent... unless you're saying we're being invaded that is?
@haydnwalker9588
@haydnwalker9588 6 ай бұрын
Guess I'm from viking imagrant stock where's my free food and accommodation lol
@itwasntme8667
@itwasntme8667 6 ай бұрын
@@haydnwalker9588 I demand reparations you coloniser.
@haydnwalker9588
@haydnwalker9588 6 ай бұрын
@@itwasntme8667 lo I'm skint
@itwasntme8667
@itwasntme8667 6 ай бұрын
@@haydnwalker9588 might I suggest we raise taxes to pay for it instead?
@haydnwalker9588
@haydnwalker9588 6 ай бұрын
@itwasntme8667 it would be a wake up call for the public were raising taxes. Why to pay for imagration housing.
@Pauli-tm2zt
@Pauli-tm2zt 7 ай бұрын
Time for a net-zero policy on immigration. We've had decades of this now and we are still in a cost of living crisis.
@mrmeldrew693
@mrmeldrew693 6 ай бұрын
'We should be compassionate'..... Why? Look at the future of your family - will your kids/grandkids have a better or worse life than you have had? Do they have any hope of owning their own home?
@ophthalmophobicnpc8002
@ophthalmophobicnpc8002 7 ай бұрын
The beginning of this video made me laugh. Krishnan Guru-Murphy is comparing illegal immigrants with foreign invaders (the Romans).
@AKbamoida
@AKbamoida 7 ай бұрын
And pointing out we're all foreign invaders and always have been.
@thethrawnscotsman5260
@thethrawnscotsman5260 7 ай бұрын
I saw that as well. He is basically saying slavery in the British isles by the Romans was a good thing.
@bogglesbiggins1101
@bogglesbiggins1101 7 ай бұрын
Yep, got to love his logic. We were all migrants to Britain if you go back several thousand years, therefore UNLIMITED MIGRANTS
@DanielWilkie-dg4kp
@DanielWilkie-dg4kp 7 ай бұрын
@@AKbamoida tells a lot about your lack of knowledge
@DanielWilkie-dg4kp
@DanielWilkie-dg4kp 7 ай бұрын
@@bogglesbiggins1101 no they weren’t. People have been living here for thousands of years since the Ice Age. It was before even any mass immigration began, which was in the 1960s btw.
@JonoPS
@JonoPS 7 ай бұрын
UK needs to be tougher on immigration. Be like Australia with a points based system.
@DanPhillips-in6qn
@DanPhillips-in6qn 6 ай бұрын
You are so right! It's crazy that we don't have a sensible, restricted skill based immigration system. The Irony is Australia have a strict immigration system and yet you can see a GP same day, wages are higher, people have more disposable income, streets are cleaner, standard of living is better etc etc. Contrast that with the general decline in everything we have seen since mass immigration really started under Blair in 1997.
@mangojango2055
@mangojango2055 6 ай бұрын
Its well established that most brits want to lower legal migration and stop illegal immigration. But this crowd is ecstatic everytime a pro migrant / "refugee" quote comes out any of their mouths. Shows you how well balanced the political spectrum of the hand picked crowd is....
@LWD1099
@LWD1099 6 ай бұрын
They probably get asked and screened that's why anyone who would be a ReformUK advocate will be not allowed to enter.
@unknown-nw2dp
@unknown-nw2dp 6 ай бұрын
making misogyny a hate crime? what about misandry? Do these lot not see the future ramifications of their policy ideas????
@simonh6371
@simonh6371 6 ай бұрын
I didn't get to that part but isn't mysogyny an intrinsic part of the fastest growing religion in the world? Let me guess members of that religion will be exempted from that legislation.
@mac7040
@mac7040 6 ай бұрын
I meet more migrants in low skilled jobs, not in the nhs.
@fragfmgill
@fragfmgill 6 ай бұрын
shut up for the sake of diversity.
@jonathanfell688
@jonathanfell688 7 ай бұрын
Beware clowns saying they have easy solutions
@sonofsomerset1695
@sonofsomerset1695 6 ай бұрын
You mean like saying just cutting Co2 will fix climate change.
@ilyasVa
@ilyasVa 7 ай бұрын
Debate all you like. I’ve heard all the BS before!
@brosephyolonarovichstalin2915
@brosephyolonarovichstalin2915 6 ай бұрын
I dunno I get the feeling we’ve legit had enough now. You can feel it on the streets.
@littlerollingwheels
@littlerollingwheels 6 ай бұрын
ENOUGH IS ENOUGH, NO MORE IMMIGRANTS
@edwardbernthal160
@edwardbernthal160 6 ай бұрын
So no more emmigrants then? can't have one without the other,
@Britain4775
@Britain4775 6 ай бұрын
House price rise because Because there was a huge migration of people into UK. Uk is an island country with small land area, How many houses.schools hospitals are there in UK?
@jonathaneffemey944
@jonathaneffemey944 6 ай бұрын
Thanks for posting
@Jeanne90275
@Jeanne90275 7 ай бұрын
Think of Europe as a lifeboat. Bring enough migrants on board and the whole thing sinks...especially the UK because if its limited size. Eventually politicians will figure it out, but probably too late.
@robertvel4051
@robertvel4051 7 ай бұрын
Only1% of the Uk is built on, we need to build more houses, more hospitals, more schools always have done always will
@Jeanne90275
@Jeanne90275 7 ай бұрын
@@robertvel4051 You know of a European country that is better off for mass migration?
@samruddhabamhankar9412
@samruddhabamhankar9412 6 ай бұрын
I am a legal migrant.. working in Nhs and providing services in London. I agree with Liberal democrats… thats how it should be done… train more British people rather than planning how to recruit more from abroad…
@cokezzz8249
@cokezzz8249 6 ай бұрын
Lawyers are inhibiting progress. She claims ‘human rights’. Oh how poor of illegal men entering UK from EU countries, gaining nice free accomodation and food. Meanwhile poverty has skyrocketed amongst Brits under Conservatives. Has she ever considered human rights of UK citizens???
@stephenhill545
@stephenhill545 6 ай бұрын
The left argue for human rights per se, labour rights, democratic rights etc.
@salkoharper2908
@salkoharper2908 6 ай бұрын
Yeah I've noticed that as well. I'm a centrist Liberal, but I have noticed that Left-wing socialist type people only seem to care about poor people in 'Foreign Countries' now. They don't seem to care much for English poor. Have this arrogant, aloof attitude to the problems of English people. They seem to be more interested in Palestine than in the lack of housing for the young generation in the UK. They seem to have given up on caring about their own nation and people and have become obsessed with 'Saving' the rest of the world.
@elperuno
@elperuno 6 ай бұрын
I saw six Socialists and one Righty. Who do you think is going to bring change and not keep the status quo?
@sneezeey
@sneezeey 6 ай бұрын
Obviously a socialist, because right-wing politics is all about keeping the status quo, keeping its hands off things and letting them simply happen, and not caring for others
@johnrussell3961
@johnrussell3961 6 ай бұрын
Not someone who looses!
@sonofsomerset1695
@sonofsomerset1695 6 ай бұрын
@@johnrussell3961 What a dumb response, you must be a Labour voter.
@alynwillams4297
@alynwillams4297 6 ай бұрын
Scotland and Wales have always voted in majority for left wing parties. Unlike England.
@onetwothreefourfive12345
@onetwothreefourfive12345 7 ай бұрын
Reform UK's Richard Tice is the only one up there who doesn't come across like an absolute goblin.
@robertvel4051
@robertvel4051 7 ай бұрын
Then why did he come across as a goblin?
@stephenhill545
@stephenhill545 6 ай бұрын
He's got no solutions. Brexit was sold the same way. It failed.
@sonofsomerset1695
@sonofsomerset1695 6 ай бұрын
@@robertvel4051 Because you're a brainwashed tribal Labour voter probably.
@MGuðmundur
@MGuðmundur 6 ай бұрын
Hahaha comparing the Roman Empire invasion to the scum of the world Invasion of today.
@wildflowerspoetry
@wildflowerspoetry 6 ай бұрын
Where do they think they will be houses when locals cant even get housed?
@KB-bf2io
@KB-bf2io 6 ай бұрын
Vote reform simple none of the others seem to have a plan.
@california7376
@california7376 6 ай бұрын
Vote ReformUK.
@sebastianthomson87
@sebastianthomson87 6 ай бұрын
The Green's are never short of their ideological opinions when it comes to upholding Law & Order and Immigration.
@WayneJohnsonZastil
@WayneJohnsonZastil 6 ай бұрын
such a small audience guess getting harder to find woke people now haha
@DMJ-01
@DMJ-01 6 ай бұрын
It would be so nice if diversity in Britain was as civilised as the audience in this program. Reality on the streets is abruptly different.
@xena2559
@xena2559 6 ай бұрын
Belarusian leader Lukashenko employed the former Wagner soldiers and they're training migrants to attack on the Polish border. Recently, a Polish soldier died having been stabbed by a migrant.
@bigtony4829
@bigtony4829 7 ай бұрын
Life long Labour voter here but will be voting Reform this time We dont have a bottomless pot of money and the poor suffer more than the rich with uncontrolled migration I wish Labour would wake up and face reality
@jtmxc5474
@jtmxc5474 7 ай бұрын
What about all of the economic policies pledged by Reform which would benefit the rich to the detriment of the poor?
@bigtony4829
@bigtony4829 7 ай бұрын
@@jtmxc5474 Such as ? Earning 20 K before paying income tax and scraping net zero taxes would be the biggest windfall ever for the poor
@Hartley_Hare
@Hartley_Hare 7 ай бұрын
@@bigtony4829 Good luck funding the NHS with that.
@thethrawnscotsman5260
@thethrawnscotsman5260 7 ай бұрын
@@Hartley_Hare Scrapping net zero would free up around £55 billion in England and Wales. If that is transferred to the NUS that would make a huge difference.
@bertiewooles3093
@bertiewooles3093 7 ай бұрын
@@bigtony4829 That would cost billions of pounds, how are you going to pay for it?
@truecolor313
@truecolor313 6 ай бұрын
Fake syndicate making money as lawyers on asylum and illegal migrants
@wizbobcat2146
@wizbobcat2146 7 ай бұрын
Lib Dems being the first to get nods of approval instead of head shaking from the crowd in any of these recent debates is an achievement in itself 😂
@jacobcohen9205
@jacobcohen9205 6 ай бұрын
Economic migrants ar not refugees.
@eggsta6
@eggsta6 6 ай бұрын
Being a British citizen doesn’t make you British!
@lukefleetwood7958
@lukefleetwood7958 6 ай бұрын
It's become such a meaningless citizenship now. Dude doesn't even sound British, yet he says he came here when he was 12.
@BeatRoot14
@BeatRoot14 6 ай бұрын
I can't bring my non-UK wife with me and have to hope i can earn a ridiculous 29k annually. Punishing UK nationals who want to build a family here. Failed governments always blame migrants
@jimbowen423
@jimbowen423 7 ай бұрын
Is there a "cost of living crisis" aka profiteering and exploitation of working people by big business and money laundering by government debate???
@sanchez16
@sanchez16 7 ай бұрын
Never heard an audience laughing at a MP panellist before as much as Chris Philp on channel 4 debate tonight 😂😂😂😊
@stephenhill545
@stephenhill545 6 ай бұрын
That's good to know. He's a you know what.
@carltontweedle5724
@carltontweedle5724 7 ай бұрын
Law those that told us to take the jab should be on remand until life in jail. Those in power must be held to account so no getting away with tax dodges. Lie to the people, if a MP of PM lies to the voters automatic sacked. Simples.
@bearimo2867
@bearimo2867 6 ай бұрын
I think the jab broke your brain, even though you didn't take it, you're all over the place.
@tipofthespear7182
@tipofthespear7182 7 ай бұрын
Someone from Channel 4 please explain why Richard Tice from Reform was not given equal airtime ? If it wasn't for him rightfully interjecting we wouldn't have heard a word .
@robertvel4051
@robertvel4051 7 ай бұрын
He did, and he kept chirping over everyone else.
@blackbeard6423
@blackbeard6423 6 ай бұрын
None of them are taking this problem seriously. This could have been aired 20 years ago. We are being purposefully REPLACED.
@Gisborne1990
@Gisborne1990 6 ай бұрын
12:00 How much do you bet she's illegally helping them to claim asylum with false reports?
@MrCarhoo
@MrCarhoo 6 ай бұрын
I just jumped onto a Ryanair flight however I lost my passport on the way. Your government and country have been so kind,they not only let me stay they gave me a house n money to stay. Where I'm from hospitality is great however this is far to much.
@thegoat11111
@thegoat11111 6 ай бұрын
These people should not be allowed anywhere near power. Tice is the only one with any common sense.
@maneshipocrates
@maneshipocrates 6 ай бұрын
But you? YT expert!
@sonofsomerset1695
@sonofsomerset1695 6 ай бұрын
@@maneshipocrates KZbin experts know more than the Tories or Labour thats clear.
@jammyjamzz
@jammyjamzz 6 ай бұрын
Hold on, I think you left your brain somewhere let me find it for you Muppet or Russian bot or both
@shyrahman4506
@shyrahman4506 6 ай бұрын
It’s becoming a joke now these people are getting treated much better then us taxpayers
@Zeyr01
@Zeyr01 6 ай бұрын
Funny how the Welsh and Scottish fought wars of independence yet today, take the longshanks position.
@taukiriqbal5119
@taukiriqbal5119 6 ай бұрын
Worker Party of Britain is the best option so far and the only hope left for the people of Britain
@TomT-te8yq
@TomT-te8yq 6 ай бұрын
Vote reform get are country back
@sonofsomerset1695
@sonofsomerset1695 6 ай бұрын
Tice couldnt lose because he has facts and logic on his side unllike the rest of these virtue signalling liars.
@lime187
@lime187 7 ай бұрын
Host is brilliant. He should do question time . Instead of bore Fiona
@Conquistador75
@Conquistador75 7 ай бұрын
He’ll never work on the BBC again after News Round. He had John Craven by the throat at a xmas do and never went back in the new year.
@Blorp_
@Blorp_ 7 ай бұрын
@@Conquistador75that’s brilliant haha
@frikkiediehaai9477
@frikkiediehaai9477 7 ай бұрын
Hire a biased crowd 101.
@sonofsomerset1695
@sonofsomerset1695 6 ай бұрын
It's far left Channel 4, what did you expect?
@chickenmadness1732
@chickenmadness1732 6 ай бұрын
Whats the point in Brexit if the main parties aren't even going to stop the open borders.
@taukiriqbal5119
@taukiriqbal5119 6 ай бұрын
So unfair! Why Workers Party of Britain has not been invited?
@lukefleetwood7958
@lukefleetwood7958 6 ай бұрын
While i can't say i will miss the Islamism party that is The Workers Party, i still think they should have a position here so we can ridicule them
@EthanLomas
@EthanLomas 6 ай бұрын
I didn't know Colchester was the capital of Roman Britain - cool
@stephenhill545
@stephenhill545 6 ай бұрын
Chester; latin for city.
@JaxApocalypse
@JaxApocalypse 6 ай бұрын
Deport Deport Deport 😮
@JaneAbbasvand
@JaneAbbasvand 7 ай бұрын
Vote Reform
@tedgroaves
@tedgroaves 6 ай бұрын
Tony blair labour is to blame ,for the open door .no one elsd and labour is about to do it abain
@AbigailBrown-wk7xl
@AbigailBrown-wk7xl 6 ай бұрын
Priority should be on the British people
@adamreed3457
@adamreed3457 6 ай бұрын
Reform uk for the uk this country needs change this also affects all those who are now uk citizens from abroad who have familes and pay just like the rest of us !
@wildflowerspoetry
@wildflowerspoetry 6 ай бұрын
Vote reform😊
@musheopeaus4125
@musheopeaus4125 6 ай бұрын
All liars bar one - can you guess which one . Yup the one without any history
@asdastillwater9977
@asdastillwater9977 6 ай бұрын
4:42 guessing this lady goes to a private hospital 😆
@iamndodd
@iamndodd 6 ай бұрын
How many babies will we allow people to have? How do we plan for infrastructure, how do we plan for schools, HOW DO WE PLAN!!
@fragfmgill
@fragfmgill 6 ай бұрын
its already over. you are witnessing the death of the UK. It will split and fracture and in less than 40 years some nation states will be majority muslim. It's quite a spectacle. And there's nothing you can do.
@neilmcclary
@neilmcclary 6 ай бұрын
this countrys had it if this is the best they have I had to turn it off
@oliverhargreaves2629
@oliverhargreaves2629 6 ай бұрын
10 minutes in, are they going to let Richard speak? lol
@socratestv1730
@socratestv1730 6 ай бұрын
For a presenter/reporter to ask what is the correct number for net migration is a stupid question. The answer can only be "It depends". You first of all have to ask how many people are needed to fulfill all the the jobs that we require to be done, then find the British people willing to do those jobs. You can adjust these by providing training, ensuring sufficient good pay & conditions etc. Then you see what is the shortfall. That is the number of immigrants required. It is a "how long is a piece of string question". For those who say they do not want any immigrants, just imagine that you will not be able to obtain any of the services that you require to maintain your lifestyle & you will realise what a ridiculous position that view is.
@microfarming8583
@microfarming8583 6 ай бұрын
I will be voting *REFORM* on July 4th 🇬🇧🚀💥💪🏾
@Brad-l4s
@Brad-l4s 6 ай бұрын
Scotland proud of helping asylum seekers, but unwilling to ever house and help its own ppl that are desperate. Sound familiar?
@lyudmilakutsenko7045
@lyudmilakutsenko7045 6 ай бұрын
What I want to tell is that British people have always been known for their desire of freedom and independence. And what I believe is that all the people there should have own opinion on whom to choose during the election. Not depending on the media, not depending on their speeches. Follow your own heart and your own perception.
@lyudmilakutsenko7045
@lyudmilakutsenko7045 6 ай бұрын
Neither of those people love Great Britain according to their outfits and their voices.
@lyudmilakutsenko7045
@lyudmilakutsenko7045 6 ай бұрын
So how to choose: choose those who care about Great Britain and talks about it. In whose voice there is love. It should be exciting to be able to help own country. Outfit shouldn't be priority.
@lyudmilakutsenko7045
@lyudmilakutsenko7045 6 ай бұрын
But all of them talk about the Conservatives as if they are taking part in the election of who will be the leader of the Conservatives. Hello! The election is in the Great Britain. Even children know that.
@AbigailBrown-wk7xl
@AbigailBrown-wk7xl 6 ай бұрын
There is 200,000 British families that are homeless in the uk . When economic migrants come to the uk they get free council houses paid by the government. Train British skilled workers
@fuckbankers
@fuckbankers 7 ай бұрын
Are you going to reform the MET.
@Newsopathy-gf2ug
@Newsopathy-gf2ug 6 ай бұрын
What a crappily edited debate highlights. Gurumurthy wasn't even shown introducing the participants. What a circus! Was it my imagination or did the Libdems get almost 6 minutes of these 16 minutes of highlights and the rest just coralled into the remaining ten? Not a well-managed situation. Maybe they should drop Channel 4 from the rosta of broadcasting these 'shows'.
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