HiHat Setup & Sonic Ramifications | Ep. 7

HiHat Setup & Sonic Ramifications | Ep. 7 - Cymbal Sounds

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@td4owner 29 күн бұрын

I’ve played orchestral cymbals before and never made that connection with hi-hat tilting. That actually solves my problem with my left foot hi-hat playing sounding dead, thanks a lot!

@Mieczu_DRUMS Ай бұрын

To prevent rod bending, when I'm going for a gig and I'm taking my hihat stand which won't fit into my bag i unscrew the top hihat tub I screw my hihat clutch to the top of the rod and I leave the rod inside the top tub, that way my hihat rod is always perfectly straight!

@thomashassell Ай бұрын

Same

@bbj7383 7 күн бұрын

Yeah me too

@kennymik1509 Ай бұрын

Great video! You're providing a great service to drummers.

@dallasrogers4844 Ай бұрын

Amazing video. I had a close look at my hats today, and gave the top cymbal a bit more freedom in the clutch felts! Far out, it was revolutionary. It sounds so much better! 🔥🔥

@jonashellborg8320 Ай бұрын

I love hi hats, and spend a lot of time with both setup and strike technique. One eye opening moment I remember is whilst keeping a fairly tight clutch, I saw a video with Max Roach - his clutch was super loose. Tried that, adjusted my playing a little and instant nirvana. Since then I keep a mostly loose clutch. You touched on the key parameters in this video, there are endless choices to make with all of this to find the sound you want. I would even argue, from personal experience, that hi hats you think you don’t like might just be a matter of wrong stand and clutch setup.

@G60syncro Ай бұрын

I found out an interesting byproduct of using my old Ludwig hat stand with the hinge in the middle of the rod... It had developped a bit of slop. I learned to live with it but we once had ths song that had a prominent tambourine beat. I quickly figured out I could clamp a ching ring on the rod, keep the ball of my foot firmly planted on the pedal but stomping withthe heel only. It sent enough of a shock wave up the stand to activate the jingles but kept the hats closed tightly to play the groove that was happening there. I've machined replacement bronze bushings and added some industrial hose (Polyethelyne pneumatic hose) material to give smooth action and no metal to metal contact to my stand... But that slop remained because it's a feature!

@danroth7260 Ай бұрын

Very interesting video! It's neat to take a deeper look at a piece of hardware

@kushking420 Ай бұрын

my guitar player bent my hihat rod accidently smacking his guitar neck to it, he almost fell down on my drum set too. I have a Sonor hihat stand with a hex rod, and can't find a new one anywhere in north america online, I don't think they even make them anymore but they're great as the rod never loosens like regular round ones as those ones typically loosen and collapse your top cymbal to the bottom one

@sambeazley3900 29 күн бұрын

I’ve never had my normal round rods coming loose either. Just gotta have a half decent clutch

@kellerc73 29 күн бұрын

Great video! I've been having a strange issue with my stand making a click noise and after watching this video I think I know why. Some rare info here😊

@TsunamiBeefPies Ай бұрын

I use a DW/Gibraltar clutch with a quick-release that's very easy. But I sure do need a new hi-hat stand! I'm using one that was a gift from a friend right now, and it has external springs. It works well, but it sure is noisy. Tomorrow, first thing I do, I'm going to take that stand apart and check the rod. I can't thank you enough for that insight! Tuesdays are better because of SLaD! Thanks Ben and Cody!

@golflre7179 21 күн бұрын

Excellent info - thx!

@lajollascott 20 күн бұрын

I've got three hihat clutches and they all have threading. I love my hats beyond reason, and now I'm kinda freaked out. Off to order a new Remo clutch...

@heathrobertbowden4925 Ай бұрын

Back to the future

@kestassvetikas5491 Ай бұрын

Guys! I love your videos! :) But on this one I don't agree about "Cymbal on the stand is just a cymbal on the stand" part. There are some variables too. The main one is that cymbals sounds better on straight stands because the boom arm gives some weird humming. And also some energy we put to the cymbal is waisted and goes to that boom arm. Of course it's more noticable on lighter stands.

@aheellesstrio6467 Ай бұрын

As always great video. Question; have you ever made video related to different drums… I mean different shells like e.g. maple - poplar -maple and just maple or other ones? That would be interesting from sound point of view…

@bbj7383 7 күн бұрын

Spring tension is so critical... I've played house kits with super high tension, and when heel down, it's definitely hard to get a tight closed sound. Im weird... i play heel up BD but heel down HH. I can be much more creative this way and it helps with balance.

@chrisellis5371 Күн бұрын

I do the same most of the time

@jerrygamez5723 Ай бұрын

Love your videos. Thanks so much.

@patdeniston3697 Ай бұрын

I never thought about the tightness of the clutch. Gonna chack that and i bet mine is too tight. Or at least tighter than i want it. Thanks

@jc3drums916 Ай бұрын

I have mine as loose as it will go without giving me that "click" feel when playing with the foot. I like the sound and the feel that way, but I know a lot of people who like it tighter, I guess it lets the hats open a bit faster.

@ned2one 27 күн бұрын

Have you tried having the tilt mechanism on the other side so that it's angled away from you? Is there a reason we have the angle aiming towards us?

@SoundsLikeADrum 27 күн бұрын

Since the production of this video, Cody now tends to have the tilter on the opposing side so that the bottom cymbal is tilted away.

@StoyanStoyanov88 Ай бұрын

My hi hat is very loud,how can i make more quiet, bottom cymbal to put on top,or top cymbal put on the bottom?

@thomashassell Ай бұрын

Neither. Put GAFF tape on the inside of both cymbals. Let sound be your guide to the amount of tape you use. Or just get a different set with a more subtle breakpoint.

@krusher74 29 күн бұрын

bigger or heavier cymbals are louder, if you don't like the sound of them it better to sell and get some lighter/small one. If you put the heavy bottom cymbal on top they will be even louder. As was said you can mute them somewhat with tape but that not a nice sound.

@StoyanStoyanov88 29 күн бұрын

@@krusher74 Thank you for information

@DarthCiliatus 28 күн бұрын

Try hitting it softer.

@MrMateogaguilar Ай бұрын

Loved it! I generally set the tilter towards me in order to have the place where the two cymbals touch each other. I feel that having them this way, at the place where I'll be playing them, gives me more control on the HH openings and the length of them. Hope this makes sense, english is not my first language. Cheers

@ShawnBohrer Ай бұрын

Yes! If you put the tilter on the side closest to you it also prevents the edge of the bottom cymbal from sticking out and chipping away at your sticks when you play the hi-hat with the shoulder of your stick. I also find it makes it easier for me to see the angle and adjust the screw if needed while I'm playing. It does mean the cymbals will tilt away from you slightly but it is very slight and I've never found that to be a problem when playing with the tip or shoulder of the stick.

@denishaberley2509 Ай бұрын

Recommendations for tilter position when using bottom hi-hat cymbal with drilled holes or wave edge please - level or tilted?

@SoundsLikeADrum Ай бұрын

That’s really up to you. You might not need much of a tilt given the venting of the cymbals but this is really up to personal preference. Experiment with it and see what you think.

@jc3drums916 Ай бұрын

I never needed to tilt my Quick Beats.

@krusher74 29 күн бұрын

I'm surprised you did not cover a part of the distance of the cymbals apart open. People seem to be between 1/2" and 2". Too close, and you don't have much room to get a foot chick. Too far apart, and it takes a lot of spring compression to hold them together and a long way to move than for a foot chick.