[Hikaru no Go] old game review with AIㅣ Sai vs Akira first match Shusaku vs Shuwa

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Go Pro Yeonwoo

Go Pro Yeonwoo

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@RayVitoles
@RayVitoles 3 жыл бұрын
Its actually scary that Alpha-Go agrees with Shusaku on the kosumi.
@Sai4651
@Sai4651 Жыл бұрын
It shows how brilliant Shusaku was, the fact that a man from the 1800s was able to find such an excellent move. Sadly it fell out of popularity due to Komi and was considered obsolete, then Alpha-Go was like "Nah, this teenager from the 1800s had it right from the start" Cause remember, Shusaku was a teenager when he pioneered Kosumi
@purplism4857
@purplism4857 4 жыл бұрын
thanks for doing this! i played go for the first time after reading hikaru no go at age 12, i stopped playing for many years and picked it back up about 4 years ago, now i am a tygem 3dan. thanks hikaru! thanks yeonwoo!
@ВиталийКарнаухов-з9л
@ВиталийКарнаухов-з9л 4 жыл бұрын
I liked Hikaru no go so much that after watching it i really wanted to become pro in go. In a year i became 1 danand even aplied to study in Korea and was approved, but sadly i didnt have money to fly there, so that dream never came true. I still really love go and watch games from time to time even though i cant bring myself to play anymore, which is a bit sad i guess.
@samsowden
@samsowden 4 жыл бұрын
PLAY!!!! go online and beat some people up it will make you feel better!!
@SBhunter
@SBhunter Жыл бұрын
keep playing bro
@tangledwaves2659
@tangledwaves2659 4 жыл бұрын
Dear Yeonwoo, thank you for this very good review. Shusaku did not invent the kosumi move, though, he was the one to use it the most systematically and the most efficiently in go history. According to John Power's book Invincible, The games of Shusaku, the kosumi move can be already found in a 1650s game between Honinbo Sanetsu and Honinbo Doetsu, and in a handful of 19th century games before Shusaku's time, for instance in a 1809 castle game between Inoue Shunsaku and Hayashi Tetsugen Monnyu, or in a 1813 game between Jowa and Gennan Inseki, etc... This shows how go knowledge is a collective work beyond personal genius, across space and time, and now across humans and AI. 😊
@kevinhua8740
@kevinhua8740 2 жыл бұрын
I LOVE this game analysis @Go Pro Yeonwoo! Thank you for doing this. I just started learning Go and the video helps me understand more how other players think while they play. I really appreciate how clean you made the video. The layout is done so well where you can show us the go board, yourself talking, and pictures at the same time. The HnG video clips cut in is great for reference. Fantastic work!
@iamjimfan
@iamjimfan 3 жыл бұрын
This vid deserves more view. Understanding top Japanese games from the past is so difficult. This helps a lot. Keep it up!
@Sai4651
@Sai4651 Жыл бұрын
9:42 - Taisha, famously used by Genan Inseki during the Ear Reddening game. It made Shusaku suffer for most of the game until he played the Ear Reddening move
@rpi9117
@rpi9117 4 жыл бұрын
"AI says Akira you're not alive yet!" Katago bothering Akira even further beyond Sai 😂.
@NotTheWheel
@NotTheWheel 4 жыл бұрын
My favorite Go commentator covering my favorite anime. I'm in heaven :)
@Rubrickety
@Rubrickety 4 жыл бұрын
Interestingly, Hikaru no Go came out right at the time when komi in Japan was changing from 5.5 to 6.5. (I believe the original manga was before the change, but the anime was just after it.)
@gunsbulletsheroin
@gunsbulletsheroin 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah and as I recall Hikaru lost as black in the last game in the manga vs Go Honma by half a point soooooo. .... he actually won?!
@sandybarnes887
@sandybarnes887 4 жыл бұрын
Page 404 of Invincible: The Games of Shusaku
@kongkritayakirana6000
@kongkritayakirana6000 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks Yeonwoo. Japanese audio as well. Super cool!
@sumwon6973
@sumwon6973 3 жыл бұрын
It would be cool to see a spiritual successor to HnG with another strong player from the past learning from the new modern ai style
@sunrevolver
@sunrevolver 3 жыл бұрын
Another interesting idea would be someone from the future with AlphaGo back to the past..
@nickb8755
@nickb8755 3 жыл бұрын
Spirit of Go Seigen
@Bippy55
@Bippy55 2 жыл бұрын
(Dec 2022) - Yes Yeonwoo... please more instructive videos like this using Hikaru no Go. Now I see Go is based on trust between the players.
@motoharumotoharu
@motoharumotoharu 4 жыл бұрын
In their next game, Sai actually went all out and destroy Akira. I'm looking forward to YeonWoo's review on that!
@ozanoguzhaktanir
@ozanoguzhaktanir 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you, this was beautiful.
@Alientcp
@Alientcp 4 жыл бұрын
Huh? Never saw your channel before, but im glad it got recommended. You earned a new sub from Mexico. Keep them coming.
@andresbetancur8980
@andresbetancur8980 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this review, it was so nice!!. It'd be so interesting that you show us more Shusaku's games!!
@RavenToe
@RavenToe 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks Yeonwoo for showing this game! I just recently started watching the Hikaru No Go series , they are so cool :>
@johnpineapple1824
@johnpineapple1824 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you!🙏🙇‍♂️ Such a beautiful video. One on my favorites from now on. It will be great if you can do more studies on old kifu. Now days all I hear is about AI. It is really interesting, amazing, and beautiful when we I find commentary of both worlds, Old Kifu and AI. 👏👏👏👏 👍👍👍👍
@sivyig
@sivyig 4 жыл бұрын
very mcuh enjoyed! can't wait to see more hikaru no go reviews!! :D keep it up :D
@damiester1
@damiester1 4 жыл бұрын
Who was your favourite side character? I thought the semi-pro classmates Hikaru had were all pretty interesting, especially the dude who left Japan to train.
@myrcutio
@myrcutio 4 жыл бұрын
The american biker!
@SantiagoHernandez-ye3vn
@SantiagoHernandez-ye3vn 4 жыл бұрын
Mine was Kuwabara sensei.
@kn9ght
@kn9ght 4 жыл бұрын
Ben Balentine there’s an American biker in the series?
@damiester1
@damiester1 4 жыл бұрын
@@IcyTorment Well, I was mostly talking about the ones who did pass, but are barely 1st dans. I doubt they'd be able to cover their living expenses fully as fresh graduates.
@starvingamnesier
@starvingamnesier 3 жыл бұрын
kaga... just love him
@rougecrown
@rougecrown 4 жыл бұрын
Please do a series of this! I love this
@chombongkojt.338
@chombongkojt.338 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much. I'm really enjoy the video. Plz do more of Hikaru no go's games.
@CristiNeagu
@CristiNeagu 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for mentioning KataGo., which then led to KaTrain. I've been looking for a tool like that for some time now, but i've never come across it before.
@alexanderekelund4424
@alexanderekelund4424 2 жыл бұрын
Great review ❤
@SantiagoHernandez-ye3vn
@SantiagoHernandez-ye3vn 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the Hikaru no go match review. I enjoyed the anime
@IsntThisPaul
@IsntThisPaul 4 жыл бұрын
연우프로님 영어도 된다는거 까먹고 있었어요 ㅎㄷㄷ We need more contents like these!
@Crenneth1941
@Crenneth1941 Жыл бұрын
You are awesome 😍 i learned a lot 💪😊
@zoeconstans7913
@zoeconstans7913 4 жыл бұрын
I enjoyed watching this video :) interesting, fun and hikaru no go nostalgia ㅋㅋㅋ~ merci !
@mrikidubelier45
@mrikidubelier45 4 жыл бұрын
i'm happy with this video ,when i began Go game i bought the book "invicible the games of shusaku "
@paulbloemen7256
@paulbloemen7256 4 жыл бұрын
It’s truly nice to see these great games from the past explained with the aid of AI, even if those games were without komi: thank you! A player from the past that intrigued me for quite a while is Honinbo Satsugen. Nobody writes about him, although he was the strongest player of his time by far. After a period of “not taking the game seriously” (I don’t know how to describe this properly), Satsugen made sure go became at its top again, being quite strict: probably he wasn’t liked very much, but that doesn’t matter right now after some 250 years. His games with his main rival Shunseki feel quite funny, I couldn’t say whether they are good or bad. Maybe you, with the aid of AI, could shed some light on one of these very old games? Like, I found this game below. Satsugen was 34 years old, so he must have been stronger than the mentioned 1p. eidogo.com/#1xAcAT
@samsowden
@samsowden 4 жыл бұрын
I expect any sort of dan rank in the late 18th century were far and away the strongest players of the time, and there's been quite a bit of rank inflation since.
@mikestokes3601
@mikestokes3601 4 жыл бұрын
More! Using AI to help analyze games is a great idea.
@kjhsaranghea
@kjhsaranghea 4 жыл бұрын
Nice... Please next review is toya koyo and sai's game. Please....
@Fanaro
@Fanaro Жыл бұрын
I don't think Shusaku invented that diagonal. He only became famous for it.
@Psychedelicide
@Psychedelicide 4 жыл бұрын
Very interesting. Thnx!! Also, please review other historic matches. Cheers!!
@BicheTordue
@BicheTordue 4 жыл бұрын
didn't know the anime used real shusaku game, that's pretty neat
@あいういお-g3e
@あいういお-g3e Жыл бұрын
ヒカルの碁が国境を超えて愛されてるのが嬉しい。 秀策についての解説もされていて参考になります。
@spanishmackerel
@spanishmackerel 4 жыл бұрын
Nice. Yes, more please. Thank you.
@JannisAdmek
@JannisAdmek 4 жыл бұрын
wow :O what an amazing game! I would also love to see all the top pros like Shin Jin-seo, Ke Jie etc play against Shusaku, it would be super interesting!
@tylerrousey525
@tylerrousey525 4 жыл бұрын
5.5 was komi when the anime aired
@RyuMai
@RyuMai 4 жыл бұрын
this fucking soundtrack gets me every time
@chessprogramming591
@chessprogramming591 3 жыл бұрын
Yeonwoo, could you please explain why the komi actually exists? If it's say 6.5 points for white it feels really unfair because black needs to capture 7 more 'squares' to win, it would probably result in a more aggressive and less balanced game. Was the komi added to get this exact competitive type of games?
@StrategicGamesEtc
@StrategicGamesEtc 3 жыл бұрын
It's to balance the first move advantage.
@breakergod9494
@breakergod9494 2 жыл бұрын
If only they made a quality anime about chess. Now, any mention of chess in anime is bleeding from the ears and eyes.
@sjs9698
@sjs9698 Жыл бұрын
there are several anime featuring shogi ^^
@kimsamjong69
@kimsamjong69 Жыл бұрын
@@sjs9698 Igo is the most professional game in Japan not chess
@ЮрийСергеевич-з9е
@ЮрийСергеевич-з9е 4 жыл бұрын
Can you please add review for all another games between Sai and Akira?)
@김타브
@김타브 2 жыл бұрын
좀 배우고 보니 고스트바둑왕도 중간에 과감한 치중시도라든가 테스트로 죽여보라고 마지막에 놓는돌이나 되게 재밌게 다시 봐지네요
@JV-ge8bm
@JV-ge8bm 4 жыл бұрын
So fun!
@malte8887
@malte8887 4 жыл бұрын
very nice and interesting :)
@唐杰豪
@唐杰豪 4 жыл бұрын
If you really want a challenge try going through 中国围棋古谱精解大系. Even I can tell these guys were masters
@McFugo
@McFugo 4 жыл бұрын
I wonder what AI says about Shuusaku's ear-reddening move
@ApontyArt
@ApontyArt 4 жыл бұрын
AI doesn't particularly like it, 5% mistake. Yoda Norimoto also says it is not that amazing of a move (but still a move expected from a strong player). If an AI were to play it, it would have played it about 13 moves later in the game. What made it famous was how much it threw Shusaku's opponent off his rhythm.
@vedatark4529
@vedatark4529 4 жыл бұрын
Is that tall guy look like Hao Asakura?
@sjs9698
@sjs9698 Жыл бұрын
heh, a little bit? (you mean 'sai' right; the ghost with the fan?) idk how old the manga of hikaru or shaman-king are, but i'd guess hng is older...
@ebefl
@ebefl 4 жыл бұрын
When you say “ai” what ai do you use?
@tierfreund780
@tierfreund780 3 жыл бұрын
katago
@theJade
@theJade 4 жыл бұрын
Love the review of old games. Maybe you can also go through some games of Huanglong Shi.
@douglaspohlbrum5846
@douglaspohlbrum5846 2 жыл бұрын
Daí sim que essa partida existe de verdade!? 😆
@juliomondragon849
@juliomondragon849 4 жыл бұрын
Please make more videos like that
@Husky_Passion
@Husky_Passion 4 жыл бұрын
the english subtitles of that hng episode are horrible.
@tobiichikoyomi4181
@tobiichikoyomi4181 4 жыл бұрын
Why is half
@mashmax98
@mashmax98 4 жыл бұрын
Any chance this character is named after Hikaru Nakamura?
@setonixI
@setonixI 2 жыл бұрын
no but funny thought
@renardpolaire24
@renardpolaire24 11 ай бұрын
Le Go, ce n'est pas comme dans Hikaru No Go, c'est comme dans Fullmetal Alchemist : l'échange équivalent.
@Trevoke
@Trevoke 4 жыл бұрын
Is there a Korean player in history who compares to the likes of Dosaku or Huang Longshi?
@skycompany2855
@skycompany2855 4 жыл бұрын
Esse anime e incrível eu li o manga e meio raro eu disse isso mais o anime é melhor que o manga
@GerHanssen
@GerHanssen 4 жыл бұрын
The English translation is a bit ...what shall I say to remain polite... flawed. But the go is great, thanks.
@seneca983
@seneca983 4 жыл бұрын
Japanese audio this time instead of a Korean dub.
@생각보다맛있넼
@생각보다맛있넼 4 жыл бұрын
?
@miguelpanta
@miguelpanta 4 жыл бұрын
please make a video playing your guitar (and singing?) 😍🎤🎸
@ace_the_reaper_productions547
@ace_the_reaper_productions547 4 жыл бұрын
theres a human version of the show that is in chinese sub and dub
@tailor31415
@tailor31415 4 жыл бұрын
the live action is more of a coming of age drama, it's not really about go. the games are rarely even shown and they change around tons of stuff from the original series to add more drama. the anime is better to review since it focuses on the boards!
@kouvaaj123
@kouvaaj123 2 жыл бұрын
i was Black
@gertrudestrawberry
@gertrudestrawberry 3 жыл бұрын
This is so postmodern
@ahmadfauzan5141
@ahmadfauzan5141 4 жыл бұрын
hikaru no go, first cheater in competitive
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