Hilarious excuse by this (karen) pilot!

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[@paulrichards7380]

The blame for this student's incompetence should be directed to her instructor.

[@Flight_Follower]

Absolutely

[@ddthompson42]

Definitely, bro. I’d be embarrassed.

[@ddthompson42]

@@acbulgin2 💯 This student, though obviously based at a towered field, sounds like she’d never been on the radio. Seems odd to not have her making crisp calls AND knowing how to taxi before soloing there.

[@michaelhoffmann2891]

@@ddthompson42 CFI who did all the radio work for them. Because "aviate, navigate, communicate", amirite?

[@ddthompson42]

@@michaelhoffmann2891 😂 I’d never let a student off the ground if they couldn’t do all three at once. But I’m no CFI, so what do I know?

[@MrBiglig]

Sharing airspace with people like this makes flying so much more exciting

[@Flight_Follower]

And Fascinating too

[@speedfinder1]

From my research over the last few weeks looking at the NTSB reports into mishaps in the US, it would appear likely, that it is not a situation with any hope of longevity.

[@HB92647]

Ha! She's the danger zone we all hear about.

[@creloxs]

Which CFI signed off on this student doing a solo? This is crazy.

[@Flight_Follower]

Unacceptable

[@Quotenwagnerianer]

I bet it's another case of pretty privelege. A middle-aged male CFI couldn't help himself and signed her up for a solo before she was ready, because she was attractive. The same attitude that got TNFlyGirl her license without her having any business flying airplanes and getting her killed in the process.

[@TangoDelta8111]

Jeez, i’m not a pilot and I think I know more than she does about proper procedure!

[@thomasdalton1508]

I'm not sure it was wrong to sign her off, but they needed to do a proper briefing with her so she knew what she was doing.

[@tonsssedell4318]

@@thomasdalton1508 What is the proper briefing on an entitled and unresponsive individual? Maybe that exists outside aviation or other tasks that need responsibility and not just moxxy.

[@EchoKilo]

Like totally, cleared for um takeoff and whatever…

[@Flight_Follower]

Whatever 😂😂

[@rudiklein]

Duh!

[@Flight_Follower]

@@rudiklein 😀

[@Flight_Follower]

@@tmb1065 😁

[@kasplatz553]

Can you like, say that slower. Like omg.

[@MrJwill919]

She wasn’t ready, when I was a full time CFI I would never sign off anybody who was that disorganized or unprofessional on the radio even if their flying was good. Props to the controller for being patient with her.

[@Flight_Follower]

I totally agree. It's not about flying only. Best wishes to her for the upcoming days. Hopefully, she will work on that

[@Jack-1595]

Honestly, she’s probably from a school at a nontowered airport. She even says she needs to do the 3 takeoffs and landings from a controlled field. I feel this is 95% on her CFI for not teaching tower communications well enough.

[@tonsssedell4318]

@@Flight_Follower I don't doubt for a while the aviate part was borderline bad too.

[@megadavis5377]

You know, a long time ago, instructors used to introduce students to the dreaded "CONFOUNDING TABLE." It was a Ping-Pong-sized table which had an intricate airport diagram painted on it with many and varied taxiways. My instructor had one up in the attic over the office, and every student was aware that he would someday "face the music" in front of his peers when it was his time. Several students would climb the stairs together in order to practice hearing, copying and carrying out 'ATC' instructions from an instructor while moving their model airplanes around the table on the painted surfaces. This also helped in entering and exiting traffic patterns, as the students would "fly" planes around the room while following more instructions. They were great tools to have around. Often times there would be contests between the students as to who could make the fewest mistakes. There were prizes and everything. It was all in fun - and the students learned a great deal.

[@Flight_Follower]

Very right sir. Thank you for sharing the experience. That's how aviation works

[@quinton1661]

I love it. Getting an overhead visual on what is happening is a useful tool for many situations.

[@MojoMojo5768]

My CFI waited until my read backs were clear and confident before he gave me the approval to solo. This is unreal. I blame her CFI

[@Flight_Follower]

That's how it works. CFI has much more responsibilities to ensure safety.

[@michaelhoffmann2891]

Very much this! CFI did all the radio work and thought they were doing her a favour, but having her focus on "aviating" (and hopefully, navigating).

[@AnonyMous-jf4lc]

Same here. My CFI made me fly in and out of both D and C airports without his assistance all day before he signed me off and let me run my first solo at my untowered field.

[@ro-86alkonost78]

@@Flight_Follower yup. In my country, if a student crashes on his first solo, the bad record will go to his/her CFI.

[@icanflythis]

* presses PTT * "...okay"

[@primitiveflier]

"I need three takeoffs and landings for my student private pilot" lol ohh lord

[@thomaslamb1104]

This is not a Karen pilot, this is a failure to communicate. A Student pilot needing better instruction from a qualified CFI.

[@Flight_Follower]

I agree with u

[@RicCrouch]

@@Flight_Follower I'm confused, then. If you agree, why did you call her a Karen pilot in the title?

[@Tetrumo]

​@@RicCrouchCause she is. "You didn't ask," what kind of response is that? Completely inappropriate.

[@RicCrouch]

@@Tetrumo OK, first of all, the comment was addressed to @Flight_Follower (who posted the video), and secondly, he (the one who posted it) said that they didn’t consider the pilot a “Karen” yet put that in the title, hence the question. And finally, not knowing proper terminology doesn’t make her a Karen-it just means she was poorly trained.

[@Tetrumo]

@@RicCrouch It's not the terminology, it's the way she responded. Her attitude.

[@GoSutto]

She’ll be a United captain in two years.

[@Flight_Follower]

Or southwest. Spirit will also fight 😀

[@joshuavanwagoner7039]

Upgrade times at southwest are 7-8 years so…. No…

[@lyingcat9022]

She doesn’t sound diverse enough sadly. So she wouldn’t be the first choice.

[@EllsworthJohnson-ui1xm]

Due to their hiring policy of diversity, I agree

[@PilotQ-ij3zs]

@@joshuavanwagoner7039 take a joke lol

[@johnscarloshow5315]

It’s not even her skill on the radio, it’s her immaturity.

[@Flight_Follower]

It's the duty of CFI

[@AviatorJohn70]

It's funny reading these comments, all of us had bad days with the radio when we started. She's not a karen, she needs better instruction and more time.

[@Flight_Follower]

Absolutely sir. She needs to improve on communication. We hope she will do fine in the future. Her CFI will definitely take care. Best wishes for her 😊

[@HandelStarwars]

so why did you call her a karen? @@Flight_Follower

[@jimelliott6200]

I would like to hear from her again in about 6 months.She will either be a lot more proficient in her communications, or taking up a different activity.

[@AviatorJohn70]

@@jimelliott6200 I agree with you 100%

[@collinlueckenotte3746]

She definitely got a time builder instructor

[@wassermutt7805]

Thinking the same thing.

[@Flight_Follower]

Same😃

[@lxxsxxx7845]

Or she's training at a DEI school where diversity and inclusion are more important than proper training. Yay DEI! Best invention ever!

[@collinlueckenotte3746]

@@lxxsxxx7845honestly so sad this is what it’s coming too. The quality of pilots is decreasing because of this, which means more FAA regulations 😢

[@fernand3s]

Thats faulty instructing. Her instructor should have told her to let ATC know on first contact that she's a student pilot solo. Request close traffic, full stop taxi back. That would have been very different.

[@Flight_Follower]

I agree with u completely! This is a good practice to inform Atc about your intentions well before especially when going for a Solo

[@blueb0g]

It wouldn't have been that different. She can't work the radios, the issue wasn't just the initial call.

[@kaasmeester5903]

@@blueb0g You would expect that the CFI let her handle comms well before her first solo. And I would think they'd not let her solo if she wasn't comfortable doing that. Maybe a bad case of nerves?

[@fernand3s]

She is solo, probably nervous.. When you have to think about flying the airplane and talking it's a lot to manage at first. Her comms could be better. But it's not her fault. If she wasn't ready. Someone signed her off.

[@alexandrecarriere2849]

I doubt she had an instructor lately. She said she was doing 3 T/O for her private. Probably to maintain currency and by the looks of it, she hasn’t flown in a while lol… and it’s probably her plane. No schools would allow an inexperienced pilot to fly without an instructor on board. That’s my guess

[@arthurbrumagem3844]

You didn’t ask 😂😂👍 Didn’t see that coming. She needs more training

[@alexmiller7721]

She had a point :D

[@Flight_Follower]

Had a good point

[@Flight_Follower]

😂

[@arthurbrumagem3844]

@@alexmiller7721 my experience as a pilot is to tell the ATC people my intentions. They will ask my direction of travel

[@rudiklein]

She needs an attitude adjustment, and I don't mean the plane

[@CaptCap25]

“I have a number for your instructor. Advise ready to copy.” “What?” Poorly titled video. Not a Karen, just poorly instructed.

[@Flight_Follower]

Okay 👍

[@Flight_Follower]

Thanks for the suggestion

[@Glofilter]

I wouldn't say she was incompetent. Just a rookie. A little entitled, but that's just kids these days I think- especially one who's parents can afford paying $200/hr for flying lessons... ATC was perfect. That being said, assuming the flight school is on the airfield, if I were ATC, I would go ahead and call the flight school during my break and have a little chat with her instructor...

[@Flight_Follower]

Well said 😆

[@2bincwrkshop2bincwrkshop87]

While this student pilot was overwhelmed by events, and the safe thing would have been to question her readiness. It may be hard for those who haven’t gotten their PPL to appreciate how challenging simple tasks can be when for the first time your safety net, I.e. CFI is removed from the plane. It would not be out of reason that with the CFI next to her, she performs well within standard. During her first solo she becomes overwhelmed. I am glad this turned out without any real issues and the hope is it was a learning event for her and her CFI.

[@Flight_Follower]

Agreed

[@KMKazie]

I'm a student pilot expecting my first solo soon. Honestly, I laughed when I first listened to these radio calls of hers. No phraseology, no showing of readiness, etc. But at the same I questioned if the same could happen to me. I don't believe it would. But the aeromedical and ADM teach us, it could happen to anyone. The only thing I can do is to try to be ready by reducing my reliance on my instructor. I will see how my solo will go.

[@arthurbrumagem3844]

Any towered airport I’m unfamiliar with I ask for a progressive taxi. Pretty darn easy and avoid embarrassing moments

[@danizweifler6061]

That kid was certainly NOT unfamiliar with the airport. - A CFI will not take that risk for the first solo.

[@arthurbrumagem3844]

@@danizweifler6061 agreed.

[@johnp9020]

@@danizweifler6061I was thinking the same thing. Why do your first solo when you don’t already have the various taxi instructions memorized.

[@icanflythis]

Embarrassment rankings: *Not Embarrassing* - Asking for progressive taxi instructions if you aren't confident you know the airport well enough *Maybe a Little Embarrassing* - Being prescribed unsolicited progressive taxi instructions because it's clear you don't know what you're doing *Extremely Embarrassing* - Pilot deviation and perhaps a pissed off controller on freq

[@jeffreykent6203]

Yikes. I have to say this controller really kept his composure, and I would argue that he treated her with more empathy than she deserved making one fumble after another. At a certain point, it would be understandable for him to lose his cool after so many errors because this person's inexperience can go from charming to dangerous in a matter of seconds. That said, this poor woman was not ready to solo AT ALL. Most of the blame rests with the instructor. It's one thing to enter an unfamiliar airport and need progressive instructions - I think we've all had to swallow our pride once or twice - but I'm assuming this is her home airport where she's likely done dozens (I hope) of laps? Again. Yikes. Hoping this is a learning experience for her and for others: take a minute and study your diagram - orient yourself before you get in the airplane.

[@Flight_Follower]

We hope she will work on her weaknesses in future

[@lesliesmith719]

Curious as to her flying skills Wonder if she has her license today! 😮

[@BirdDog.]

solo student give her a break. We all there once too.

[@Flight_Follower]

Yeah! Out of many, very first person with positive attitude

[@shanelodge391]

‘We were all there once too’ Nope, my instructor would not have let me fly solo with that attitude.

[@BirdDog.]

@@shanelodge391 shut up maverick. I’m sure you’re fun to ride with on a 4 day trip.

[@icanflythis]

I mean I put 90% of the blame on the instructor, but I also had flights *with* a CFI next to me where I could tell my head wasn't in it, I was overwhelmed, and I called it and said we need to head back and try another day. Also had flights as a student where I'm literally driving to the airport and just get a feeling of "Today ain't it" or that I'm underprepared, unfocused, not confident, etc. That said, I was taught that part of being a pilot, perhaps especially a student pilot, is learning to know when it feels like you aren't going to be at your best, you need more training, or when you're behind the plane, behind comms, in over your head, etc. But all that said...barring an absolute brainfreeze of a day (which ADM should have forced into a no-go)...no clue why that CFI thought she was ready

[@BirdDog.]

@@icanflythis she probably was ready. You just spelled it out.

[@PeteV80]

Wouldn't you have been hesitant even to grant takeoff clearance when taxi instructions were being fumbled so badly? Student needs a lot more practice with radios.

[@Flight_Follower]

This is the responsibility of an instructor to brief well before to my understanding

[@eugeneweaver3199]

I would really like to hear what an actual controller would have to say. I wonder if the controller even has the power to say "Taxi back to the ramp and shut down"?

[@Flight_Follower]

@@eugeneweaver3199 I wish 🙏

[@deanfowlkes]

ATC has the power to deny taxi clearance and departure clearance. They can also direct aircraft holding short of the runway to taxi back to the non-movement area.

[@Flight_Follower]

@@deanfowlkes why ATC didn't stop her ?

[@redcapote4760]

I'll bet my tax return she looked at her phone at some point mid flight. And I'll take odds on her taking a selfie with said phone.

[@Flight_Follower]

😅

[@thefungusshow2535]

…and she was doing the “duck lips” while taking the selfie.

[@areza15143]

Absolutely horrible radio technique. Starting out with 8263B when her call sign was actually 8236B. All of the poor readbacks. And then blaming the tower for not asking instead of understanding perhaps that was something she missed. Some bad tendencies, but really is the instructors responsibility.

[@Flight_Follower]

Totally agree

[@KO-pk7df]

Working airport ops and having the ATCT & Grd on all day I hear it all and have to wonder at the competency of the flight schools and instructors. I have to believe that these students are just being rushed or pushed through by instructors with minimum qualifications themselves.

[@Flight_Follower]

Totally agreed

[@copterchaser828]

Lord help her!!! She’s going to get herself killed. That instructor needs to be addressed.

[@Flight_Follower]

She needs some brief before going to fly again

[@pilotho]

I'm like super surprised that like she managed to like land like you know.

[@Flight_Follower]

That's super surprising

[@Flight_Follower]

Whatevs

[@eugeneweaver3199]

😂😂😂

[@MajorCaliber]

It's not that I'm against #DarwinAwards but I am against bending and/or burning perfectly good aircraft! (This is why we can NEVER have flying cars.)

[@Flight_Follower]

Well said!

[@pilotandy_com]

The 4 W's. who you're talking to, who you are, where you're at, and what you want to do.

[@HB92647]

For anyone who may not be aware, this would be her first solo. What a crazy dangerous attitude.

[@Flight_Follower]

She will definitely improve

[@backandforthupanddow]

More concerned about sounding cool than using proper phraseology. Sadly, she will be a United first officer in about three years.

[@Flight_Follower]

Yeah! That's very disappointing

[@idunnoanymore2870]

This is frightening, she’s going end up like TNFlyGirl if someone doesn’t stop her from flying solo until she is competent!!!!

[@Flight_Follower]

She needs to be briefed well

[@Spyke-lz2hl]

The entitlement is rich with this kid.

[@Flight_Follower]

😅

[@user-xk5nl4sb2z]

The incompetency lies with her instructor!

[@Flight_Follower]

She needs more practice

[@user-xk5nl4sb2z]

@@Flight_Follower and who’s the person who should make that decision?

[@GeneHarris1015]

Sounds very confused and should have never been cleared to take off. There is a recent video circulating where the gentleman was found to be intoxicated and was prevented from taking off. Why wasn’t the same due diligence provided here? SMH

[@Flight_Follower]

Yeah! Drunk pilot, he was arrested later on. For this one, just need proper guidance from CFI:

[@andrealuvshouse]

Yeah, I’m not even a pilot and even I can hear tgat this student is not ready to solo anything yet…

[@andrealuvshouse]

And Joplin is a TINY airport. Thank god she’s there and not Branson or Springfield, which are also small but they handle 737s and more traffic.

[@Flight_Follower]

She needs more time before going up in the air

[@GamerChickenn]

I got annoyed when she said "Uh you didnt ask?" like lady what

[@Flight_Follower]

Same here

[@pilotandy_com]

I instructed out of West Plains, KUNO. I would send my students on their long cross-countries to Joplin. Glad I prepped them better than this.

[@as-guardianangel9360]

I blame the instructor…

[@Flight_Follower]

We hope she will be briefed by CFI

[@doyourownresearch7297]

but you have a plethora of said runways!

[@psyience3213]

What an absolute narcissist.

[@Flight_Follower]

😁

[@danvaccariello439]

The title of this video should be "CFI's ARE SIMPS."

[@Flight_Follower]

😀

[@EllsworthJohnson-ui1xm]

She does not seem to be well schooled, maybe more instruction before soloing

[@Flight_Follower]

Agree

[@blueb0g]

2:00 was "call sign?", not "all fine".

[@Flight_Follower]

Sorry for the mistake! Thank you

[@LesBell]

After her final landing, I'd be asking her to take down a number for her *CFI* to call.

[@Flight_Follower]

😀😀

[@josephhaas7413]

She probably should have added “student pilot” to the end of her callsign, so the controller could have a chance to manage his expectations. The controller did both of them a favor by progressively taxiing the SP

[@Flight_Follower]

Yeah! She could do that. After missing the taxiway, ATC remained calm and had a professional attitude 🫡

[@josephhaas7413]

@@Flight_Followerhe sure was calm and professional! Also, he was completely valid when he scolded her for never saying she was staying in the pattern. The controller probably worked to hand her off to departure before she said anything

[@salzstreuerdeluxe]

In Germany we would say: "So wird das nichts. Das üben wir noch mal!". Props to the extremely patient ATC.

[@rudiklein]

In the Netherlands we often say:"Kom maar even wisselen, Pietertje." It's from a commercial, where a kid screws up at a soccer game and he has to changes places with a backup player. 😂 Note: the kid later becomes a famous swimmer and coach.

[@Flight_Follower]

Good one 😀

[@michaelhoffmann2891]

Or as we said in the Bundeswehr: "Das kann geübt werden. Zur Not nach Dienstschluss!" In other words: you ain't going anywhere, anytime, until you have this down pat.

[@BillSmith-rx9rm]

This person is never going to be qualified for a pilot license. Her instructor should have a sit down talk with her and explain it.

[@Flight_Follower]

Probably a little more practice and a proper brief from CFI could help her. But I am not confident 100%

[@AviatorJohn70]

Oh please, you can't make that assessment from this video. We've all been there when it comes to learning to talk on the radio. She needs more instruction and time, she will be fine.

[@BillSmith-rx9rm]

@@AviatorJohn70 how I can tell, is by her cocky attitude and response to the controller. You would think someone in her situation would be a little more modest.

[@EllsworthJohnson-ui1xm]

Disagree, she may not be pilot material, or maybe she is, but I think a good instructor may turn this around. Sounds more like poor training so far.

[@EllsworthJohnson-ui1xm]

@@AviatorJohn70 Agree on both, needs more instruction and no rational assessment should be made from this one video

[@dwoodinnyc]

Someone please keep track of this girl, I doubts she’s gonna be around long.

[@Flight_Follower]

😀

[@Quotenwagnerianer]

Or she'll end up on Blancolirio's Channel as a posthumous warning to all of us.

[@Laurence-qf1cr]

Some people just enjoyed others’ tragedy. Sick.

[@dwoodinnyc]

The real tragedy is her flying solo putting other peoples lives in jeopardy because she can’t even find the correct runway.

[@mh-bc8cj]

This is unbelievable. I cannot believe this woman was allowed to pilot a plane on her own. It's a miracle people weren't killed. I don't think she could have properly completed pre-flight.....if she even knows what that is.

[@vboytan]

I’m surprised they let her take off. That’s pretty scary.

[@Flight_Follower]

🥲

[@blake.gordon]

To be fair, why would you taxi someone out to the runway without knowing their intentions on departure?

[@Flight_Follower]

Good thought!

[@deanfowlkes]

That is not uncommon. Often pilot will just tell Ground that they are ready to taxi. It is not the best or proper way. But, it does happen. ATC will assume that they are leaving their airspace. Hence the approval for a frequency change.

[@thomasdalton1508]

I agree. If there isn't a flight plan, the pilot needs to tell the controller what their destination is or, as in this case, that it is a local flight. If they don't, the controller needs to ask. You can't just say "frequency change approved" without knowing where they are going...

[@deanfowlkes]

@@thomasdalton1508 - I have a different opinion. ATC is only responsible and only has the bandwidth for their own jurisdiction. There are only one of four things ATC needs to know on departure. Those four things are: - Is the flight on an IFR plan; - Is the flight on VFR Flight Following; - Is the flight Closed Traffic (staying in the pattern), and their next desired approach; - In what direction will the flight depart ATC’s airspace. It’s the pilots’ responsibility to choose one of these options and inform ATC.

[@thomasdalton1508]

@@deanfowlkes Other than the distinction between specifying your destination vs specifying the direction of departure, which isn't important here since it was a local flight, you seem to be agreeing with me. Of course it is the pilot's responsibility, but if they don't do that then the controller needs to ask.

[@mikepeck536]

That’s funny she should’ve known 36 departure would like the option

[@Flight_Follower]

She will definitely improve on communication, we hope

[@michaelbrennan8294]

I guess the tower has to play 20 questions if he wants to get helpful information.

[@Flight_Follower]

True

[@hermannator.088]

There are too many of these videos highlighting student deficiencies. This is a failure of the training system and it us a disturbing trend. The increase number of stall / spin fatalities is directly related to poor training. This needs to be corrected.

[@user-hx4kp4bc1u]

all I can say is "Damn"

[@gcolbert99]

Does their ATIS not state upon initial contact advise direction of flight?

[@Flight_Follower]

She didn't find it necessary to listen prior

[@flythebus]

This kid wasn't ready for the solo. Probably a time building CFI let her go.

[@Flight_Follower]

I also think so

[@glennanderson-zv1yd]

Wow just wow.

[@Flight_Follower]

😀

[@TheRealRoch108]

Why I would never fly 121...She would be my Captain...I just threw up in my mouth

[@Flight_Follower]

🤕

[@icanflythis]

What was incorrectly subtitled as "all fine?" is ATC saying "Callsign?" because she KEPT responding to instructions with just ".....okay." The vocal fry/valley girl voice I could excuse if she was competent on comms, but man does this pilot need more instruction before going off on her own. You can hear the nervous ground controller realizing he should over-enunciate "HOLD...SHORT..." And even then I'm sure he's thinking "What are the odds she just rolls right on out onto 36. I'll never blame a *student pilot* for not having everything 100% dialed in, comms and ATC instructions are some of the more difficult things for certain people to master, especially early on. The blame 100% goes to whatever instructor endorsed her for solo flight. "Frequency change approved." "Lol k"

[@SquawkCode]

She may not be ready to solo but the controller was a D-Bag too.

[@Flight_Follower]

She needs more time before going up in the air again

[@GA669]

I’m speechless 😶

[@Flight_Follower]

Tiktok pilot

[@EchoKilo]

Makes you wonder about her training to that point. How a CFI endorsed her for a solo is…questionable.

[@GA669]

@@Flight_Follower scary stuff… I don’t understand how can a CFI endorse this…

[@Flight_Follower]

Well...it made me laugh so kinda funny too 😄

[@bill832]

CFI and student need some quality time at the nearest FAA FSDO.

[@Flight_Follower]

That could fix both of them 🙇

[@tikkin11]

Poor thing needs Google maps in that cockpit..

[@Flight_Follower]

Yeah 🤣

[@jamild]

spit out my drink at "contact tower 119.8 for departure"… "okay"

[@Flight_Follower]

😅

[@johnmedeiros8975]

Every bad move she makes is multiplied onto her CFI by 10.

[@Flight_Follower]

Totally 😆

[@alk672]

Valley girl attitude. Glorious video, an older one I believe...

[@Flight_Follower]

Not that old

[@Sierrapapanovember16]

Ahhhh, let me just take another selfie first

[@Flight_Follower]

😀

[@xplayman]

Part of me wants to believe that a CFI did not endorse this student and she just decided to take it on her own. Another part of me thinks that a time building CFI signed her off because they're ready to leave for the airlines soon.

[@Flight_Follower]

😀

[@shanemichaels8289]

Problem is flight instruction isn’t affordable so all you get are snobby rich kids. I know quite a few people who would make great pilots of the training was reasonably affordable

[@Flight_Follower]

Well said

[@brittonstudios]

She was not a Karen, just a student solo who was too nervous or not ready for the coms on her solo. Instructor shouldn’t have let her go, but guessing you don’t have your pilots license either if you are calling her a Karen…

[@Flight_Follower]

U are right

[@carter1154]

She is 100000% not ready to solo

[@Flight_Follower]

10000000% agree

[@lesliesmith719]

I am somebody with no aviation knowledge per say but somehow enjoy watching these videos. If somebody can help answer the below it would help me and others who are new to this world. My question is does the instructor have knowledge to the interaction between their student and ATC during the student's 3 take offs and landings? It seems the instructor somehow should recieve some type of feedback from ATC in how the student performed before they rrecieve their license. Case in point is this student. Obviously she is unprepared and needs more training. But how does the instructor know how their student did in their radio communications with the controller? Thank you.

[@Flight_Follower]

She is definitely unprepared

[@Codmaster-tc6tc]

Having “Pilot” on there is the cringiest part 😭

[@Flight_Follower]

🤕

[@BruiserFL]

Girl, get a kneepad and write the taxi instructions down!

[@Flight_Follower]

That's the best way to avoid mistakes

[@PietenpolNX899TD]

That is NOT a Karen. Click bait title. Innocent student pilot that just doesn’t know better. She’ll learn. We’ve all been there.

[@Flight_Follower]

Ok

[@joycedudzinski9415]

Another future TNFLYGIRL victim.

[@Flight_Follower]

Yeah! Very close 🙇

[@SnoDawg]

How are these “airheads” getting a license to fly.

[@Flight_Follower]

😆

[@nonspecifie4351]

Valley-pilot. Until you can speak English, without sounding like a Kardashian, you should not be allowed a license

[@SD_AV]

Appalling to see people like this think they should be in the left seat

[@Flight_Follower]

She will improve in the future. Maybe!!!

[@av8or971]

the instructor should have their CFI certificate revoked.

[@Flight_Follower]

🙏

[@michaelhoffmann2891]

I have the nasty feeling that this was a CFI who did all the radio work for them and now they are completely overwhelmed. The student is fine in the air, but has no idea how to communicate. Having learned in a class D smack dab under a class B, my CFI made me do radio work from the very start. It took a bit longer to my solo, but this sort of scenario - or worse, like busting B - didn't happen. As ATC, I would have absolutely said "and I have a number for YOUR CFI to call".

[@thekill2509]

I will bet a crisp $20 that her CFI was probably tired of trying to overcome her attitude and get her to communicate properly and was pressured to solo her, so he or she said "ok, go knock yourself out" hoping that the obvious deficiencies would catch up with her quickly. I know it's a lot to judge from one video, but this student clearly has no idea whatsoever what she's doing other than she appears to be able to get in the air and back down.

[@Flight_Follower]

Totally agree

[@standel8347]

Rn there is a plague of flying karens

[@Flight_Follower]

😅

[@EllsworthJohnson-ui1xm]

Wonder if her instructor was ever made aware of this?

[@thefungusshow2535]

“He didn’t ask”

[@Flight_Follower]

Should be by now

[@sparky6200]

I think she's using the speaker instead of a headset. Its tough to hear, little bit millenial tone there you can hear.

[@eugeneweaver3199]

Holy Frioles! An instructor actually turned this menace loose!!?? This is a Jenny waiting to happen! FAA, calling FAA, do something, quick!

[@Flight_Follower]

Yeah! Totally agree. 😀

[@EllsworthJohnson-ui1xm]

Not necessarily, she did not seem into herself so much. Definitely should have more time with a "qualified" instructor before this phase.

[@rlm975]

Gold from another pilot mill.

[@Flight_Follower]

😂

[@natecouchman4607]

She sounds like the barista from Loudermilk

[@Flight_Follower]

😀

[@coqueto45]

"Not in sight to runway 36, cleared to land" What did that mean?

[@Flight_Follower]

Distorted audio. So might not be accurate

[@srogersrules]

Painful to listen to.

[@Flight_Follower]

Yeah! It was hard. ATC tried to make things easy. She still needs to improve more

[@markzsurka1643]

Hell to da naw naw! 🎶

[@Flight_Follower]

😁😁😁

[@flyjarrett]

So much wrong here. Kudos to the controller.

[@Flight_Follower]

Yeah🫡

[@Dr.sharmin_jahan]

😂😂 this is hilarious

[@Flight_Follower]

😃

[@TrevorVanDerLinden]

I dont think being a pilot is the right choice for this person.

[@Flight_Follower]

She may improve her weakness

[@yakbreeder]

Well, she isn't wrong... ATC should have picked up on her being a student when she couldn't taxi properly.

[@EllsworthJohnson-ui1xm]

Nope, poor instruction. Let her do this flight, and evidentially never told her to preface her calls with "student pilot"

[@yakbreeder]

@@EllsworthJohnson-ui1xm yes, blame does lay on her instructor(s). I picked up on her being a student right away. ATC should have, way earlier than he did.

[@Flight_Follower]

Yeah

[@samuelm3766]

Jesus, ever hear of an airport diagram?

[@Flight_Follower]

I doubt on that!

[@flyjarrett]

I want to hear the rest of the transmissions

[@Flight_Follower]

Will upload

[@CrayCraigie]

Are we sure this is a student? Sounds like a pilot getting current.

[@Flight_Follower]

Not sure

[@EliteGamer_HD]

Just another day in vatsim😂 but real life!

[@Flight_Follower]

😀