Hilleberg Akto Versus MSR Hubba NX

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High Country Gear Review

High Country Gear Review

Күн бұрын

This video is a detailed comparison of the Hilleberg Akto and MSR Hubba NX 1 Person Tents.

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@Artiskon
@Artiskon 4 жыл бұрын
Finally someone who gets into the tent and lays down to show how much room you have. Thank you.
@TheChadWork2001
@TheChadWork2001 3 жыл бұрын
Excellent tents, both of them. If I had to choose, I'd take the Hilleberg.
@oxe
@oxe 7 жыл бұрын
My first thought was that you should not compare these two tents as they are quite different so I'm glad you mentioned that! You make a great point about the inner tent on the Akto. I have the 3-season Enan as well as the 4-season Unna. Besides from hot summer nights, approx. 0 this summer in Sweden, I almost always prefer the 4-season inner tent because you can close up and avoid the cold draft and stay, as you say, a lot warmer. Great review!
@alandavis9180
@alandavis9180 5 жыл бұрын
My experience with an ultra light tent (MSR Carbon Reflex) is the fly has a limited life span. Mine lasted about 3-4 years before it basically disintegrated. Always be aware there is no free lunch with tents. Buy the NX if you want to camp in gentler climes, the Hilleberg for the open tops and wild weather. The reviewer here spells it out honestly. They are basically 2 completely different tents, the only thing they share is size.
@Snake.coyote666
@Snake.coyote666 5 жыл бұрын
Hilleberg is very very nice tent !!! Expensive but very good quality !!
@DavidAnderson-pr1ru
@DavidAnderson-pr1ru 4 жыл бұрын
Try comparing apples with apples, the tents have totally different uses and are made to different standards and qualities. One is for warmer seasons the other is four season, mesh in one, covered in the other, one flysheet has a minimal hydrostatic head, the other will withstand more. One will survive a Scottish winter, the other will never be found again.
@profd65
@profd65 3 жыл бұрын
The Akto also costs almost twice as much, you stupid fuck, and it's significantly heavier. I'd also wager the Akto has a bigger problem with condensation. I noticed you left this stuff out of your rant.
@terryberdet6547
@terryberdet6547 3 жыл бұрын
the coating and seams of other will never be found again after a couple of years in storage as well.
@DavidAnderson-pr1ru
@DavidAnderson-pr1ru 3 жыл бұрын
@@profd65 It wasn't really a rant though, no profanities or name calling at all. I don't really favour either of the tents or manufacturers so my only "rant" would have been at the O.P. and my only gripe was he didn't test comparable tents against each other. No need for the anger and name calling.
@TheChadWork2001
@TheChadWork2001 3 жыл бұрын
Hilleberg should update the Akto and make the ceiling higher. Essentially enlarging the tent. Imagine if the ends and ceiling in the center where the pole is were at least 4" higher. I bet it would be a hot seller.
@dan001427
@dan001427 Күн бұрын
I have wondered about this, and I wonder if they increased the height of the Akto, if it would reduce it's stability in high winds. One of the things that makes the Akto so stable, even though it only has one pole, is the fact that it's relatively low to the ground and aerodynamic.
@rogerhudson9732
@rogerhudson9732 6 жыл бұрын
'Pull out', guy lines in the Uk. My Akto is 12 years old and still in great condition., quality.
@andrewlinesjah4538
@andrewlinesjah4538 5 жыл бұрын
Hilleberg - Best tents in existence .
@profd65
@profd65 3 жыл бұрын
@@andrewlinesjah4538 For the price, they'd better be.
@andrewlinesjah4538
@andrewlinesjah4538 3 жыл бұрын
@@profd65 WE BOTH KNOW THEY ARE INDISPENSIBLE !
@LA_Viking
@LA_Viking 5 жыл бұрын
Very thorough review. Particularly impressive is the reviewer’s comments on the durability-seasonal usability difference. Finances permitting, I can see the utility of owning both. My biggest concern with any tent is condensation. I spent a number of years in Olympic-style weightlifting and my metabolism runs from hot to hotter. My former paramours invariably describe me as a “heater” and that means that while it’s dry outside, it’s raining in the tent.
@onthefly4711
@onthefly4711 4 жыл бұрын
You can buy a full mesh inner tent for the Akto which makes it much cooler! :)
@TheAnvil1971
@TheAnvil1971 5 жыл бұрын
I go with the Hilleberg - anytime! Simply the best tents on the planet.
@profd65
@profd65 3 жыл бұрын
For the price, they better be the best.
@johnmclean5957
@johnmclean5957 7 жыл бұрын
Hi. Great review. I have the Akto and it is an awesome tent. Subbed
@highcountrygearreview8391
@highcountrygearreview8391 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks
@Foxtrottangoabc
@Foxtrottangoabc 5 жыл бұрын
Good detail comparison. The cost is in the detail of hilleberg tents . They have good strong tear strength fabrics and the waterproofness of fly and groundsheets is often way more than most tents, especially groundsheets. I have recently bought a Hilleberg Unna , never had condensation issues in wet uk and as you say i feel safe in the tent and have observed at least 5 celcius warmer difference inside tent , allowing me to go a bit lighter on sleeping bag and spare clothes if i wanted. They make great tents .
@azclaimjumper
@azclaimjumper 3 жыл бұрын
Sadly, you neglected to say anything about pitching either tent. When pitching the Hilleberg, you pitch the footprint, tent, & fly simultaneously. No fooling around in windy conditions with trying to pitch the fly on top of the tent as with the MSR tent & everyone KNOWS how difficult that is. Hilleberg can be pitched in ferociously gusty winds by one person in 4-5 minutes, NO PROBLEM. Hilleberg makes a less than 3# tent called the Enan that is very similar to the Akto, However, the Enan is a STRONG 3-season tent whereas the Akto is a STRONG 4-Season tent. The Hilleberg Enan & MSR Hubba would have been a better comparison, both are 3-Season tents.
@thomasf.9869
@thomasf.9869 4 жыл бұрын
Perhaps a fairer comparison would be MSR Hubba NX 1 vs Hilleberg Niak?
@CameronLittlesustainablecam
@CameronLittlesustainablecam 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you, great comparo!
@gorankantling510
@gorankantling510 7 жыл бұрын
Great review. Just the two tents I have.
@josefinelarsson9691
@josefinelarsson9691 6 жыл бұрын
Thinking about getting one of these or Hillberg Enan, but I'm not sure about the 3 or 4-season definition. Seems as if this varies,( more of an opinion). Would like to know high wind durability and temperature difference. Maybe some prefers warmer sleeping bag and MSR Hubba NX in the winter...
@adamjames3119
@adamjames3119 5 жыл бұрын
You may have just stopped me from selling my Akto. I've hardly used it since I bought it, just because I have a lighter tent, plus I found it awkward to pack in my rucksack because the 4 built-in stays in the corners made it too long to put in the bottom of my pack. But you make a great point about being able to use a lighter sleeping bag, and it does seem to be a bomb-proof tent. Thanks to this video I'm going to pitch it when I get a chance and re-assess whether I should be using it. Can I ask how you carry yours in/on your pack?
@oldschoolprepper2273
@oldschoolprepper2273 4 жыл бұрын
love the Hilleberg Akto
@pootlingalong8928
@pootlingalong8928 Жыл бұрын
Both great tents, but if you could only have one? Akto …
@krimsonhaze327
@krimsonhaze327 4 жыл бұрын
I've looked at Hilleberg tents and been very interested. I live in the Southeast US and is there any reason for someone like me to get a 4 season tent? I don't have to worry about snowstorms or anything like that.. just thunderstorms, wind, rain. Etc. I also really liked the Anjan 2 GT from Hilleberg.. it's 3 season tent. I understand Hilleberg tents are made for extreme weather or expeditions but I do like the idea of how tough they are.
@onthefly4711
@onthefly4711 4 жыл бұрын
Late but maybe still useful for others: It´s a great feeling to be in a high quality tent during heavy rain or thunderstorm. I spent a night in a Hilleberg Kaitum in Denali during a thunderstorm with heavy rain and hail and felt totally safe while others had to leave their tents to hold them down from the outside. And who knows, maybe you´ll visit all the other great places in the US?
@parsaerfani7973
@parsaerfani7973 2 жыл бұрын
@@onthefly4711 but isn't a 4 season tent too warm for summer trips?
@Boodieman72
@Boodieman72 5 жыл бұрын
The Enan is the 3 season version of the Akto.
@kobold90
@kobold90 4 жыл бұрын
Is it good? I'm thinking about buying a single person tent and can't decide between the Enan and the Akto.
@petergilbert72
@petergilbert72 3 жыл бұрын
@@kobold90 I’m having the same debate! I was sold on the Enan for its lower weight and higher end triangle over your face and feet. But having watched this vid I think the rectangular ends of the Akto, while lower, will contain more space than the triangular Enan, deform less in a string wind, and perhaps the vestibule will stay wider to its end? Also I’ve read that it’s very difficult to close the end vents at night when inside whereas the Akto has easy zips. And its rain cap is handy too. Would be good to hear from someone who has tried both.
@kobold90
@kobold90 3 жыл бұрын
@@petergilbert72 I meanwhile have the Enan. I bought the Akto first and brought it back the next day because I finally decided that the weight might be worth the trade offs. I've tested it in two nights at lower temps to see how the condensation is. 4°C, automn night, I even cooked inside, had the condensation you expect to have in a tent. The inner tent was dry. At -4 is was different but not a big deal. Regarding the size: The tents are basically the same. The vestibule is big enough and I don't think a rectangular end would change much. I am 174cm big and I have enough space on both ends, the triangle size doesn't cut the space at the edges too much. But you have for sure more space right above your head. The Akto sags a little bit, there. The Akto creates the feeling of having a little bit more space as the Enan but for me, the difference is negligible. When I bought them at the store, I set up both. Both are comfortable coffins. Made to stay safe during the night but not made to live there. Nevertheless, cooking was easy, even with my pack in the vestibule. The ends should anyway stay open if possible. Otherwise good luck with the condensation. While the Akto can be bombproof sealed, I think the covers of the Enan are strong enough to keep wind and rain outside. For sure the rain. But you don't close these vents if not absolutely necessary. Thus said, I don't think that matters much in practice. You anyway have to crawl around corners to close them. Pro of the Akto, you can close them half. The Enan has open or closed. Pro of the Enan: bug nets!!! Overall, I am happy with my decision. The Enan will withstand whatever nature might throw at it on my tours. I think the Akto is the better tent but the weight of the Enan is more than worth the drawbacks. My biggest fear was condensation and that wasn't a gamebreaker during my tests in a foggy autumn night and in a cold but dry winter night.During the winter night, the condensation was at the inner tent. But it wasn't too much and my sleeping bag didn't get wet during the whole process. It wasn't windy, don't know how that works. but I've met a girl who stayed 3 weeks on Island with the Enan. If that works, wind isn't a problem. Almost forgot one big drawback. When the outer fabric gets wet, it dilates enough to sag and touch the inner tent. I will use rubber rings to compensate the loss of tension in the future. Hope that will help.
@petergilbert72
@petergilbert72 3 жыл бұрын
@@kobold90 ooh, thank you for that full on review - really useful!! As I don’t plan on summit camping (except maybe in high summer) I think the Enan will suit me better. I’m 188 cm tall so either of them will be long enough but tight when sitting upright. There’s several Aktos on eBay, but no Enans, so I think I’ve decided to get a second hand Akto if I can to see how I like it. If I do then I may order a new Enan in my preferred colour 😃. Like you, I think the weight saving outweighs the added utility of the door flap in rainy conditions. Cheers and thanks for your help! PS May I ask where you bought yours? Being able to see them set up would be really good.
@chazzbolta9742
@chazzbolta9742 7 жыл бұрын
Great review comparison. I've just bought the Akto sand based on your review. Thanks for your great content. Can you recommend a good guy lines to use with the kifaru sheep tarp?
@highcountrygearreview8391
@highcountrygearreview8391 7 жыл бұрын
Awesome, glad I could help. I pretty much stick with regular old 550 paracord because I always have some on me for emergencies or helping with breaking down an animal. I've heard good things about Kelty Triptease line, but I've never used it before. It's lighter weight and thickness than 550, but would be rated for using with the Sheep Tarp.
@chazzbolta9742
@chazzbolta9742 7 жыл бұрын
High Country Gear Review excellent thank you very much
@Mywheel
@Mywheel 4 жыл бұрын
Very good review, thank you. Subd 👍
@effyleven
@effyleven 4 жыл бұрын
White tent? Are you saying you can tolerate waking up at 4:00 am when the sun hits it? Midsummer, in Europe?
@DoubleReel
@DoubleReel 7 жыл бұрын
what camera are you using?thanks
@highcountrygearreview8391
@highcountrygearreview8391 7 жыл бұрын
It's a Sony A5000
@barrchan5358
@barrchan5358 7 жыл бұрын
It looks the Akto a bit more roomy?
@highcountrygearreview8391
@highcountrygearreview8391 7 жыл бұрын
Barr Chan the Akto has a larger floor plan that the MSR but they feel similar because the MSR has considerably more headroom than the Akto.
@barrchan5358
@barrchan5358 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks reply! You mean the headroom when sitting in the tent or lie down?
@highcountrygearreview8391
@highcountrygearreview8391 7 жыл бұрын
When lying down the length of the Akto is greater. When sitting up the tent walls are higher up in the MSR. The akto's ceiling slopes steeply downward at the edges.
@niftyfiftycampingadventure795
@niftyfiftycampingadventure795 5 жыл бұрын
Heads up dude. 199 euros. amazon.de .. Robens Kestrel 2 a massive sleeping area high quality build 3.6kg pack weight close to Hilleburg quality for 2 sharing a no brainer...
@rogerlamb536
@rogerlamb536 7 жыл бұрын
Two great tents and you gave a very good detailed review. We are hikers from the Smoky Mountains in the Tennessee area and if you like meeting new channel friends please check us out. Thank you!
@highcountrygearreview8391
@highcountrygearreview8391 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks Roger, I appreciate the kind words. I definitely will.
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