HIMALAYAN 450 vs SCRAMBLER 400X - Which one to buy?

[@ashvin25]

Two uncles on a weekend ride, talking bikes with mountains in the background. Perfect!!

[@bigbearbangalore]

🙏

[@user-tns1986]

😂

[@MixXD947]

Uncles ? These are young lads. Can still beat us in heavy heat 450 kms

[@km00-v1j]

uncles like u and me that sit in home watch riding videos and comment, these are riders on a weekend ride, talking bikes with mountains in the background.

[@vaibhavdubey8647]

😂

[@thekushinator]

Mid-life returning motorcyclist here Bosky. It was the triumph for me. I got an ear to ear grin when I test rode it. Most of my planned riding is going to be up in the himalayas with very little highway touring. I just knew it'll be more fund to ride on the twisties. And I wasn't disappointed on my first ride through Himachal and Uttarakhand. The bike lived up to its promise. To me, the triump is more of a successor to the 411 than the 450 is. Not putting down the Himmy here at all. Every rider connects to their machine differently. I just happened to connect with the Triumph over the Himmy. Just like I connect with the Interceptor above all else in the RE stable. There is no better content to watch on motorcycles other than you two gents talking about bikes. and man, that location is amazing. Now, I live up north, and to make it to Coorg on a bike, I might need a Himmy...haha.

[@bigbearbangalore]

Many thanks. Wishing you many more great trips.

[@atulsathe3579]

I just love how you guys do reviews just with plain simple language and talk about issues users face. Keep it simple like this always

[@bigbearbangalore]

Thank you! Will do!

[@jaydeepmahajan6598]

I Upgraded to Scrambler 400x from Activa 110, just learned motorcycle on my friends Honda Unicorn for 30 to 40kms and realised i was missing the fun of motorcycling, then after a month i took test ride Scrambler 400x, I felt it was this easy to ride this Big motorcycle and then i booked it and got delivered within a week thanks to Surat Showroom. Just clocked 3600Kms on scrambler 400x, it has each and every level of torque, power kick in at the righ time.i never felt I'm missing low end, mid end or high end torque After software update it become really smoother & company is recalling scrambler 400x for replacing front brake lever so after that even the less confidence on the front brake was also gone. Just loving this beast i highly surprised how easily i got used to this motorcycle. Taken her to ooty last week on turns and corners it works like a charm. I'm in love with this motorcycle and enjoying the motorcyling.

[@bigbearbangalore]

Thanks for sharing your experiences. Best wishes.

[@yajushp]

I am using an activa too and this comment proved to be really insightful.

[@vardanrathi7777]

Hi! Fellow Surati here! Big bold step to directly jump onto a 400cc bike with no prior knowledge. 999 out of 1000 people will strictly advise against it but anyway, congratulations! I will be getting the Himalayan pretty soon once the tubeless arrives.

[@jaydeepmahajan6598]

@@vardanrathi7777 that's why I'm learning things about motorcycle day by day, and enjoying it. see you soon in Surat.

[@PiyushPatel10]

How’s your experience on Surat triumph and bike itself

[@S-R-D7]

i am loving my new himalayan 450. Its my first bike.

[@ChAnkur]

*hi5* bro

[@Josenrl]

Same here

[@bigbearbangalore]

Congrats

[@jonathanwallis6854]

Nice one! As a new rider how were your first rides? How did you feel about the weight of the bike to begin with? Thank you.

[@the_wind_walker]

​@@jonathanwallis6854just a tip don't let other's opinion bias you. Test ride the bike yourself if possible. Everyone has a different height weight strength and experience. I felt so easy with Himalayan not necessarily you will feel the same too so test ride and let the bike speak to you

[@patrickjacobs1293]

I started my motorbike life in 1975 with a Honda 50cc and had all kinds of Honda motorcycles till about 10 years ago when i stopped riding. @ the end of this month i'm going for a test ride on the Himalayan 450 and if i like it i'm going to be riding again @ my 65. Your video's are always nice to follow and give much information and inspiration for all.

[@bigbearbangalore]

Best wishes.

[@vamsi9432]

450 replacing the vstrom is a huge compliment to the bike and it's ability. WOW!! As always a level headed approach to the discussion.

[@bigbearbangalore]

Yes and will post a video on why am considering the switch. Many thanks for watching.

[@twowheeledparadox]

​@@bigbearbangalore I will watch that video!

[@km00-v1j]

Thats what the Honda simps are worried of himalayan 450 taking out their big margin profit honda bikes, hence severly attacking the bike by nitpicking silly reasons like weight while putting stand and all.

[@anoopkulkarni9062]

Yeah, that's very big appreciation to Himaliyan, looking forward to detailed video on this.

[@jaegermeister1968]

I think both motorcycles are fantastic and cost almost the same in Austria. But I would prefer the RE, better wind protection, navigation on the display and the better seating position on longer journeys. Plus the design, many scramblers have the design of the Triumph but the Himalayan looks so wonderfully different to all the other adventure bikes.

[@bigbearbangalore]

Agree! 👍

[@Kalume]

Love your videos! This is the exact scenario I am in and you were spot on with the answer for my situation. My Xpulse is undergoing a piston replacement after it broke down on a recent 3000km journey. So I test rode the Triumph, RE and the KTM. 400x felt to me like a beefed up Xpulse with its torque, seat height (rally seat, stock suspension), and rider's triangle. I instantly fell in love with it.

[@bigbearbangalore]

👍 thanks for sharing

[@twowheeledparadox]

The Himalayan is definitely the better and more complete package here. This is for touring and off-road use. I would use it for commuting too. I agree with your points and I land in the 450 camp.

[@bigbearbangalore]

👍

[@radarroi27]

Actually the opposite is the truth, people who buy either as a single bike, the Scrambler makes more sense as one would be spending a lot of time in commuting vs touring, not even talking about off-roading as that would be something 99.99% of people will never do, mainly cos we literally have roads everywhere. . .

[@twowheeledparadox]

@@radarroi27 If I had to have only one bike that does everything, it would be even more important for me not to compromise which the Scrambler 400X seems to be. I would want to buy a bike that can perform the widest variety of tasks. The Himalayan fits that requirement. It can commute, take to the highway and tackle bad roads and rough trails better with its 21" front rim and superior suspension. The Scrambler is not the better choice if you want to venture off road. I have two Dukes so I know how far 150 mm of suspension travel can take you. But yes, if you don't intend to go off road or you just do light trails then the Scrambler is a better. I know it's not an upgrade for me.

[@radarroi27]

@@twowheeledparadox just curious as to where exactly do all of you take your bikes to hardcore off roading? Trails, bad roads, yes I know a lot and ride then, but hardcore off roads? Anyways, if your main priority is, say 70%-80% touring including trails with just 20%-30% commuting, then yes, the Himalayan is the perfect choice n the reverse is true for the Scrambler. . .

[@twowheeledparadox]

@@radarroi27 A trail does not have to be hardcore to max out a bike's suspension. There is a trail not far from where I live. It branches off the Faridabad-Gurgaon road. It has some ruts and some rocks embedded in it but on my mildly modified 200 Duke (in my profile pic) I can reach 50 kmph until I reach a bump or a rut that bottoms out the front suspension really hard. On the same patches, my friend with the old Himalayan had no issues. Those with modified Xpulse 200s hit 70 kmph on that trail but I am not a hardcore off-roader. For reference, you can check out Abhinav Bhatt's videos. I have ridden my Duke on some of the trails on which he rode his modified Himalayan 450. High speeds are possible only on straight stretches. On those trails, the Scrambler won't give me much of an advantage over my Duke. The Himalayan will. I tour maybe once every 2-3 months. That alone is enough to warrant a touring-bias in my motorcycle. Points to the Himalayan again for my usage. I commute almost daily on my Interceptor. Its engine provides excellent midrange torque which is what is most used while commuting. Whichever bike has that will commute well.

[@himanshuchaudhari3536]

I'm not a regular rider, but the Scrambler 400x marks my debut with a 150cc plus bike, and I'm thoroughly enjoying the experience.

[@bigbearbangalore]

👍

[@himanshuchaudhari3536]

I was very happy when you purchased the same .. It was like validation of my decision.

[@venkateswararao4240]

Thanks guys. You kept things simple..One of my colleagues bought the Himalayan and the other the Triumph scrambler..I ride from Chennai to Vizag and Hyderabad on my Suzuki GS 150 R and never felt tired after the ride..I only stop for refueling and eating..I am a passionate rider and I love riding and driving long distance..My only grouse with my bike is the top speed isn't enough. I'm 69 going on 70 and still enjoy touring...I hope I can get a faster bike in the future...Kindest regards

[@bigbearbangalore]

Awesome. Keep riding. Best wishes.

[@tigerinthetunnel]

Recently completed motorcycle ride of Sikkim with my wife on Himmy 411. Flew to Bagdogra, then picked up the rental bike from Siliguri, then onwards to Darjeeling, Pelling, Gangtok, one day local sightseeing in Gangtok & took permit for North Sikkim via agent, rode to Lachung & back. Got to see the destruction caused to Chungthang dam which was completely washed away during monsoon/flashfloods. Couldn't go the Nathula/Lachen/Yumthang valley as the roads were blocked. Needless to say it was cold as hell. Had fun nonetheless! I was planning to buy one of 2 but now mystery has intensified even more 😢

[@bigbearbangalore]

Well done on the trip. The 450 and the 400 will be available for rent too. Check them out to know more.

[@dwayneleonardofernandes1550]

That sounds like an incredible journey you had! I'm planning a similar trip and would love to know where you rented the Himmy 411 from in Siliguri. Any tips or recommendations for the rental process would be greatly appreciated!

[@tigerinthetunnel]

@@dwayneleonardofernandes1550 Himalayan xplorer, Sevoke road, Siliguri

[@dwayneleonardofernandes1550]

@@tigerinthetunnel Thank you so much!

[@v.onthemove]

Id like to appreciate the cameraman and his efforts 👍🏻👍🏻. Subtle things gave me a feeling like i was the third guy standing with you guys with the discussion 👌🏻 Love your content guys.

[@bigbearbangalore]

🙏👍

[@balaji1952]

Yesterday i commented on your previous video. Today i got notification for this video🤩🤩

[@bigbearbangalore]

Hope you enjoyed it!

[@balaji1952]

@@bigbearbangalore yes sir thank you for clearing the confusion out.

[@prasannabaruah3732]

Just how bike reviews should be done... Two grown up men discussing the good and bad aspects of two perfectly capable motorcycles...no loud music in the background, no needless speed test on public roads and lastly no OOH BHAI / BHAI SAB AAH LAGA DEGI like comments... Love from Assam India...❤❤

[@MONO_piston]

what a scenic view 😍 and i booked himalayan 450

[@bigbearbangalore]

👍

[@muttineni03]

@@bigbearbangalore Where is this place, its beautiful!

[@the_hustling_wanderer]

@@muttineni03coorg

[@thefellowbreather]

This has turned out to be the BEST review model ever! No frills discussion with real-world points and zero marketing distractions. This proves that life is simple, our illusions make it overcomplicated. Kudos guys!!

[@bigbearbangalore]

Thanks for watching and kind appreciation. Regards.

[@sanjaysharma-jf8fv]

Thanks Bosky and CK for this.. Has been in the pipeline for over a month now.

[@bigbearbangalore]

🙏

[@OurStoryWorld-26]

These guys give the best, crisp and clear review then any one else!

[@bigbearbangalore]

🙏

[@pratiksoneji8694]

Got my Himalayan 450 last week.. enjoying it.. will plan a long ride after the first service

[@bigbearbangalore]

Congrats

[@SelvaSandy-zu6wg]

I did the first service within 48 hours of taking delivery . So I could go for a ride with my Club

[@sanatandharma4435]

You have articulated what I could not quite figure out! It's the himalayan for me! Thank you!

[@bigbearbangalore]

🫡

[@kmshyamsundar]

props to the cameraman for holding the shot for 20+ mins 😮

[@bigbearbangalore]

Cheers to him!

[@sachinhonnal2226]

This is what exactly one gets to know before buying any motorcycle. Like the way you two explain. 👍👍

[@bigbearbangalore]

Glad it was helpful!

[@billesbacon]

This is a much appreciated video. I agree. It truly comes down to personal preference. I chose the Scrambler 400X. If I later want a touring bike I would add the Tiger to my garage. I hope to one day ride in your beautiful country.

[@bigbearbangalore]

Thanks for sharing! 👍

[@Ayush-sq2kz]

Keep making simple talking reviews/comparisons like this. Much better than channels that talk specs only.

[@bigbearbangalore]

Thanks, will do!

[@pranaypietersen]

I was blown away by the background sounds of those birds, now i wanna visit coorg

[@bigbearbangalore]

👍

[@pastTimesvd]

Nice review guys, thank you for that❤️. One imp point is Scram doesn’t require a prerequisite skill, it will teach you better with less vibration and less noisy knocking engine. Bought 6 days back Scram (80-100 km/hr is best all time) and so much happy. As a RE user for 9 years 350 ThundrBird and 68k kms, I will suggest watchers to think 3 times before going to RE, not saying it’s bad but smooth engine will always reduce efforts and boosts ride pleasure 🎉 Love Scram ❤

[@bigbearbangalore]

Thanks. Congrats. The H450 is also as smooth as the 400X.

[@JourneyOfLife001]

Super nice location, gentlemen. Decorated by two good bikes and two good bikers.

[@bigbearbangalore]

Thanks a ton. Cheers!

[@thangavelkannant81]

@@bigbearbangalore which place ?

[@bodhis96]

Even if the 2 bikes are not meant to be compared but Indian riders end up doing so because most riders come from middle class families and its not possible for them to maintain 2 different bikes for different purposes and scenarios. Most try to go for one single bike that falls within their budget while managing to cover most of their requirements with that one bike. Sometimes they end up comparing bikes from 2 different categories to understand which one will fulfill their purposes the most. The comparison is not always about "Market and Media" instigating misplaced comparisons. Kudos to the answer at the end of this particular topic, "I think it is the buyer's pocket that is causing the confusion". No truer words have been spoken.

[@bigbearbangalore]

🙏

[@PeerlessArc]

I have been using Himalayan BS3 all these years. Would the 450 be a good choice for an upgrade? Any suggestions would be helpful. Thanks :)

[@bigbearbangalore]

Yes, absolutely. I have moved from the 411 to the 450 and am glad I did. Take a test ride to know more.

[@naveenbattula]

I was also in dilemma but finally just booked the Himalayan solely because of how good i felt the suspension was

[@bigbearbangalore]

👍

[@ssandeep2687]

Hellooo and Namaskara. Thank you Boski and CK, love all your shorts and reviews, big fan, love the background and the HELLOS. One of the few channels and journos that is jolly with less anxiety. Been riding for 15+ years. I totally second and resonate both of you on the mid-segment bikes.

[@bigbearbangalore]

🙌

[@ritickgupta9160]

This channel is just pure bliss to watch. Just keep talking ❤

[@bigbearbangalore]

🙏

[@virajvrooms]

How a buzzy RE can replace a butter smooth Suzuki. This is a twist like in Abbas Mastaan's movies 😅. Eagerly awaited.

[@bigbearbangalore]

🙌😃

[@chandrakantkhot8884]

Am really really waiting so long for this video to come.as I am also confused in these 2 motorcycles. Thank you so much to clarify my view on both bikes. And also two major and important points in mid range bike segment. Heat and vibs. Very informative and useful video. Thank you once again.

[@bigbearbangalore]

Most welcome 😊

[@dview3176]

What a refreshing view! nice location to shoot who does what better! Thanks Boski

[@bigbearbangalore]

🙏

[@prajwal8804]

I was waiting for this video for so long and the shubha munjane at the end was ❤

[@bigbearbangalore]

🙏

[@sid20]

Got my himalayan yesterday, eager to explore it now

[@bigbearbangalore]

Congrats!

[@zigyzigy2022]

How's the experience?

[@tigerinthetunnel]

I somehow LOVE the look of Scrambler more than the Himalayan but there is RE service centre even in Kaza 😂

[@bigbearbangalore]

👍

[@kris.sahotra]

That service centre was major selling point for me too 🔥😁

[@tigerinthetunnel]

@@kris.sahotra yeah, I had to get my Himalayan chain tightened and handlebar straightened after a fall at RE SC in Kaza. But the guy was helping other bike owners also.

[@marsmerchh]

Writing a comments for the vlog for you is much easy ! As you are running through every one’s mind and the output is your Videos’s ! So all have to say ! ‘ Job well done ‘ ! Thank you ! Keep vloging with both of your expert Advise’s and view’s 😀😀🙏🙏👍

[@bigbearbangalore]

Many thanks. 🙏

[@kumarraj2012]

I am practicing on weekends on my scrambler 400X and I am trying not to drop it while stopping. I have dropped it 6 times already. Before this bike, I owned Avenger but this was like 10 years ago. All this while I was on my Ather all the time. I realised my basics of riding was all wrong. Now is the time I am correcting them. Really hoping to start enjoying my new bike.😊

[@bigbearbangalore]

Skill up and enjoy the ride! Best wishes. 👌

[@ANIK5261]

Great😅

[@kumarraj2012]

Update: I switched to my friend’s 125 Cc and have practiced 100 slow speed uturns…! Wow, it is fun. My fear of leaning and dropping the bike has reduced immensely. Still struggling a lill bit with stop and shaprt turn right..! I will get there in 2 months. Scrambler here I come..! 😊

[@Subxsh.s]

I already got the bike .... Still I love your reviews..... It's so subtle yet informative

[@bigbearbangalore]

Congrats. Thanks.

[@trueroutescafe547]

Thanks for this vdo. ❤ . I was in a dilemma between these two and now I know what I want. "I am a traveller, need mile muncher, want to keep the machine for another 5 years", it's the Himalayan ❤❤❤ The grey one... that's a wonderful video

[@bigbearbangalore]

🙏🙏🙏

[@GameProgrammer79]

Very pleased to have discovered your amazing comparison video, which demonstrates true depth from experience. I've been riding a Bullet 500, a hefty, bulky motorcycle, since 2013 and wanted something comparable. I will bypass the Scarmbler in favor of the Himalayan because touring is what I intend to do with my next motorcycle. The comparision would be skwed towards Triumph if it brings a Tiger 400x with Bajaj. I strongly believe they should have brought in a Tiger 400x instead of the scrambler as Sramblers are not that popular in India.

[@bigbearbangalore]

Thanks. Yes the 400 Tiger would be one great machine. Hope it does show up.

[@spacebound1705]

Getting my Himalayan this Thursday, excited to start touring again

[@bigbearbangalore]

Congrats

[@raymondwilkinson9255]

Absolutely love your videos. Especially this in depth comparison between the Himalayan and 400X That location and the camera you're using is fantastic. I'm impatiently waiting for deliveries of the Himalayan to the UK as it's my initial choice, but of course you have to consider the options. That's why i value your expert and in depth opinions. You have my respect and admiration sir. Keep those video's coming. Love India. It's on my bucket list to ride there. Must get a move on as I'm nearly 76 😂

[@bigbearbangalore]

Thank you for your kind words. 🙏 Best wishes on your H450. Cheers!

[@the_wind_walker]

I test drove both the bikes just 2 days back and reached the same conclusion as you said. Himalayan is more intimidating at first but the way that engine pulls the suspension feels the relaxed sitting posture the comfortable seat it just add up nicely. Left me with a big smile and at the end of test drive. (RE purist might not like the engine but to me coming from 160cc suzuki I enjoyed the fast revving nature, dont like thumpers in general) The same didnt happen to me when i test drove scrambler later in the day. Its a good bike for the price infact better at finishing than Himalayan but it didnt speak to me like how himalayan did. And the bike indeed feels small (for a 6 footer) My priority was comfortable touring anyway so naturally inclined towards Himalayan. Hoping to be an owner soon. And big thanks to all your videos ❤, these conversations between you helped me paint a clearer picture about the 400cc segment.

[@bigbearbangalore]

Thanks for sharing.

[@antonyjohns]

Cnt explain bettr than this . Him450 has a charctr . Triumph is more refined bettr fit n finish . Bt its too bland. U ll get bored soon.

[@DarshanR1]

The way we travel changes by damping higher decibels through the ears. No noise ear plugs are amazing.

[@bigbearbangalore]

Good to know!

[@melvinchetan3943]

Explained really good.. I’m still not sure to upgrade but when I see a 400cc motorcycles .. I’m tempted.. intentions and purposes should always come while considering these bikes . Happy on apache rtr 160 since 2011

[@bigbearbangalore]

👍

[@Raison_TS]

I've bought Cb300r last month after comparing all these and I am happy ❤️

[@bigbearbangalore]

Congrats

[@dheeraj3945]

No other video can ever match the usefulness of this one. Especially the conclusion

[@bigbearbangalore]

🙏

[@rahul12754]

I completely agree with using the earplugs. It is an absolute game changer while touring. Cuts fatigue greatly on longer rides.

[@bigbearbangalore]

👍

[@vidyanandbidre6844]

Hi bro are you using it , can you explain bit more about it ??

[@thea7979]

Yes please suggest or give link for good earplugs . I am searching for one but not able to trace. BTW your reviews are direct from heart in a no nonsense manner. Kudos to you both.

[@bigbearbangalore]

Alpine or No Noise brands are good. I have no link. Search online.

[@kithara_pragma]

Two grown man….beautiful background…just chatting about bikes….perfect!!

[@bigbearbangalore]

🙏

[@dranantharamanr2819]

Great suggestion about the motorcycle earplug - beginner rider here

[@Ted772k]

Booked Himalayan 450 its going to be my first bike❤

[@bigbearbangalore]

Congrats

[@7rahe13]

You guys do regular long distance touring. I would like to understand how do you deal with chaffing? The biggest issue when i tour over long distances is the sour bum due to sweating. That is the only thing that stops me from going further. I tried using anti-chaffing powders but with very little success. How do you avoid/reduce that? Do riding pants help reduce it over say a normal pair of jeans? Do cycling shorts help? Your inputs would be really helpful. Thanks.

[@bigbearbangalore]

I use riding pants with inner trunks. No issues with excessive sweat nor any chaffing.

[@SeleniumGlow]

Use cotton halfpant. Powder it up if sweating is a major issue for you. Edit: nevermind, I read that powders didn't help. You probably needs tighter yoga pants which stick to your skin and let the outer fabric rub with the riding pants.

[@bigbearbangalore]

Movement between pant and skin causes chaffing. Use motorcycle inner tights and it likely can help.

[@7rahe13]

Thank you all for the inputs. I will try out motorcycle inner tights

[@sureshking89]

I have test rides both. Practically Scramblers are much easy to ride in city traffic and it’s easy to flick around and on high ways and trails it does it job. It’s more fun to ride scrambler every time. ❤

[@bigbearbangalore]

Thanks for sharing

[@preetamhaldar6178]

Love the friendship, love the content, love the simplicity due to your video, some sort of recommendation and two test ride and having fun with it, i am taking delivery of Scrambler 400x tomorrow.

[@bigbearbangalore]

Thanks. Congrats!

[@DeepuAmalan]

Ha ha ha .. Thanks for the added confusion! its an obvious choice for me like the scrambler ..... but you guys made my choice very clear...Thank you for that...Dear Bears of bangalore!!!

[@bigbearbangalore]

Our pleasure!

[@gkreddy9201]

I had booked a Himalayan 450 in Nov and cancelled in Jan. In-between I had observed 450 owners in utube and found many issues. I was not convinced with the absence of tubeless rims and over weight which was a big draw back in city riding. Himalayan is 70% for offloading and rest for city riding. Tell me who can spend their daily life on touring? I found 400x ticking all my requirements. It is more of a city bike and less of a touring. I am sure most of the Himalayan owners will not use for touring purpose frequently. Also I found the Himalayan shape to be bit strange and becomes a odd man out among the latest bikes in india. So far no regrets and happy to go for 400x.

[@bigbearbangalore]

Thanks for sharing your thoughts. 👍

[@NoOne99245]

Long tours on such bikes with a friend like you both is all what i wish for🙏 you both are amazing✨ keep going ❤️

[@bigbearbangalore]

Thanks a ton

[@C0MING_S00N]

One question boss I want to purchase between scrambler and speed which one i have to buy Priority- 1. Mostly ride in city 2. Good amount of power 3. Comfortable 4 good breking But i like the scrambler much better then speed in terms of design. My height is 5.8 Please answer 😌

[@bigbearbangalore]

You've said it yourself. You like the Scram, so buy what you like.

[@askurpad]

Thank you for Bosky and CK for yet another video that surpasses all the BS 1,2,3,4,5,6 and gets straight to the point based on logic, facts, and experience. Please keep this content coming. Couple of thoughts I had when watching this. - The Scrambler 400X target group is interesting because it appeals to riders coming from lower capacity bikes. But it also appeals to those who have bigger bikes in their stables and are looking for a second bike that they can be used more carefree, especially when exploring B and C roads and trails. In that sense, is the availability of parts better for the mid-capacity motorcycles as compared to their higher capacity cousins? - To the point you made after sitting down, I think it was much needed. I have never understood what reviewers mean when they talk about vibrations and buzziness. Probably because my first motorcycle was the old RE cast-iron 350 with the gears on the right and I did a fair share of riding with that workhorse. Over time, I’ve accepted vibrations and buzziness as part of a motorcycle’s personality and without it, I feel something is missing. I obviously haven’t had the privilege of experiencing extremely refined motorcycles and that limits my understanding of how a motorcycle has no buzz or vibrations when being ridden in its power band.

[@bigbearbangalore]

Yes the 400X appeals to some of those who have bigger motorcycles. I have a V-Strom 650 and the 400X is a second motorcycle for having a little more fun on some tricky roads. The weight, cost and the ease of repair is the main attraction. And since I have had the opportunity of experiencing bigger motorcycles, the heat and buzz of mid size don't bother me.

[@amalramdas7888]

Hi. I have a eye on the Himalayan but I’m keeping myself away from the initial batches just to be on the safer side. I heard someone talking about the valve clearance check on every 10k . Is that the case ?

[@bigbearbangalore]

10k, 20k, 40k, 60k which is standard on most engines.

[@rohitchatterjee2774]

Time has finally come for me to get one of two and to be honest, my heart says Himmy but my head says Scrambler. Such a brilliant product from RE but the two chassis snapping incidents brought back the cloud of fear, anxiety and questions regarding the quality. Now even comes with the the cross spoke tubeless rims but I still cant overcome the fear to get this. And for a motorcycle that nearly cost INR 3.50 lakh or above, the quality is still not at the level of Scrambler 400X or ADV 390. I often wonder why. And no matter what RE says about how the chassis got snapped, it simply should've never happened. Not even once and these are not my words but Shubhabrata Marmar's. I wish I could get the Himmy but Scram it is.

[@bigbearbangalore]

👍

[@richardjoyy]

Thanks for clearing the biggest doubt in my self weather to select the HIMALAYAN 450 vs SCRAMBLER 400X your precious knowledge and experience was a big deal breaker to me to finalize which motorcycle I should go with.. And once again I thank you Both

[@bigbearbangalore]

Happy to help. Thanks.

[@KaransPOV]

10:18 Ive bought the speed400 as my first two wheeler, havent even properly ridden a scooter before either. Must say it was very friendly and forgiving, very good beginner bike!

[@bigbearbangalore]

Good choice! Nice to hear.

[@Ripley6867]

How was the experience with the RE adventure screen . Does it do a good job on highways with helmet buffeting and body wind protection ? Or is an extender needed with speeds 110 120 kmph? Thanks!

[@bigbearbangalore]

Far better than stock.

[@maneckkatrak1379]

The biggest issue I have against the H450 is the "gremlins." Thank you CK for the honesty. The Scambler does scrambling definitely better than the H450 does touring (that buzzy engine is a deal killer since it hits at touring speeds)

[@bigbearbangalore]

👍

[@rogerthedodger5788]

@ 3:50.... Im seriously considering getting a T shirt designed for myself with "Bosky Flying on the Rat" graphic! 😂. Another excellent video and what an amazing backdrop. Also a big thank you to the person doing the videoing. Great job. Ps love the intro music!

[@bigbearbangalore]

😃 Many thanks. Glad you enjoyed enjoyed watching.

[@aps250487]

Bosky sir, I am riding him 450 and have done just 200 kms, I m trying to stick to the running in as mentioned in Manual, but due to Mumbai traffic there is lot of wrong shifting and sometimes lugging. Should I be worried or it's ok. I also find a loud noise in gearbox while shifting in 4th gear . How do I improve this??

[@bigbearbangalore]

Don't worry.the gearbox is tough enough to handle missed shifts. Enjoy the ride ans get better at managing the machine.

[@aps250487]

@@bigbearbangalore thank you sir 😊

[@sameerkharade7750]

I have taken test rides of both Himalayan and Scrambler 400X. Loved the suspension, seat and gearbox on Himalayan, while the torque, refinement and road presence of Triumph impressed me well. If I could, I'd most probably go for the Scrambler 400X.

[@bigbearbangalore]

Good choice.

[@prasshantgarje]

Again and again i am coming back to observe the comarision ...its my 5th time ...and still enjoying it more than kapil sharma show

[@bigbearbangalore]

🙌😀

[@supratimsaha3783]

Hello Sir. I am planning to buy a new twin cylinder Royal Enfield motorcycle. Out of the 4 available right now, I am in love with continental GT 650. Is there any update coming to this motorcycle anytime soon? Maybe a new engine / better equipment / more features. Should I put off my purchase for some time? since this bike has been almost unchanged for over 5 years now (except a few color variants / alloy wheels, whatever you covered in this video). Thanks in advance.

[@bigbearbangalore]

You decide this since you are looking at what may be coming than looking at what is available.

[@genuineleo78]

With such a scenic greenwry in the backdrop. The Silence of Nature and cool breeze is what needs to bw enjoyed more than the bikes

[@bigbearbangalore]

👍

[@chilljuncture]

I really like these two surprised i didn't find this channel before.

[@bigbearbangalore]

🙏🙏

[@fortunersoul1356]

I have test rode both of this and some how i feel more confident on Himalayan over scrambler scrambler is more punchy and its hard for me to ride in traffic with those power jerks on other hand Himalayan is calm at low end which i felt more comfortable

[@bigbearbangalore]

👍

[@schander101]

Is this the place Mukkodlu in Coorg??

[@bigbearbangalore]

Yes

[@ferkuzuel]

Am one of those who are stepping down from a bigger adventure bike to be more precise an f800gs, I sat on the 400x at a local dealership here in the states yesterday, and it did look like a regular size bike, but seeing it in this video next to the Himalayan, it makes me think that the Himalayan may be as bulky as my f800gs anyway this is a very good comparison video, thanks for sharing

[@bigbearbangalore]

Check it out when it's available.

[@vidyanandbidre6844]

“I agree with your points, sir. As a Splendor rider who has ridden up to 1 lakh km, transitioning to the Himalayan 450 has been a bit challenging for me. However, I am planning to attend some off-road classes. Can you suggest where I can attend them in Bangalore? It would be very helpful for me.”

[@bigbearbangalore]

Check with Big Rock Dirt Park Kolar

[@nigeldias6771]

Thanks guys 🫶🏻. For getting my purchase decision much easier . Would be settling with the Himalayan. Hope to join ya’ll on a riding tour. All the best

[@bigbearbangalore]

Congrats and best wishes

[@DataSenseiAryan]

At 14:25 you mention about riding classes. Can you give names/recommendations? I am beginner want to learn it properly. (PS: I have done Spiti circuit with Himalayan 450 but usually I drive scooty or my friends Meteor 350 )

[@bigbearbangalore]

Big Rock & Moto Farm

[@sapanvaswani]

Hi, can you please share whether the extended windscreen is from RE or some other brand? And how is it performing? I was looking at the one provided by carbon racing for H450 but I'm confused. Any advice is appreciated. P.S. Always look forward to your videos and love them.

[@bigbearbangalore]

This is from RE

[@sapanvaswani]

Thanks for the quick response. Would you advice the RE one? Or the carbon racing one, in case you happen to have any idea about it?

[@shanejacob9070]

Great break up and definitely caused less confusion. On a separate note, what mirrors did you put on the Scrambler 400x?

[@bigbearbangalore]

Thanks. RAM Mirrors

[@williamsatish25]

I had Himalayan 411 sold it bought Meteor 350 currently struggling unable to do touring hence missing my Himalayan. Tried Triumph 400X bike very light weighted and does 7000rpm easily. The only 2 issues that I am facing is the height as i am 5.7 feet and after driving heavy biles Triumph seems to be very light and i am not sure how it can handle heavy vehicles on the highway. Also tried Himalayan 450 it does have vibrations too, they have not got rid of it. At 5000 rpm there is still vibrations but post that around 6000 and 7000rpm the bike is very smooth. Himalayan behaves differently on the streets and on the highway. Since i am an ex 411 user i strongly think i will move towards 450, eliminating 400X.

[@bigbearbangalore]

👍

[@8891able]

I'm loving the scenery more than these 2 lovely bikes. What a spot to make a bike comparison❤

[@bigbearbangalore]

Glad you like them!

[@ranjeetsinghbnl]

Thanka for the review. How those earplugs will help with Turban? Any problem in hearing over turban? Can you please share the link i will try over turban? Please audience don’t give advice on wearing helmet, I’m mature enough to wear over long rides. ✌️

[@bigbearbangalore]

Alpine ear plugs are designed for motorcycle use.

[@vasanthVamohan]

Hello Bosky, What's your pick for touring among Svartpilen 401, (or Vitpilen 250 2024), Scrambler 400X, Himalayan 450 and KTM Adventure 390/250 (or KTM Duke 390/250)? Thanks so much.

[@bigbearbangalore]

Touring = H450

[@vasanthVamohan]

​@@bigbearbangalore Thanks so much for your response.

[@s-code-b]

Nice discussion. The surrounding nature and in the background is even better.

[@bigbearbangalore]

🙏

[@Rahul-kp6wn]

I rode both, both are good for city. Both are flickable. Comfort is Himalayan superior due to suspension and seat. Engine surprisingly smoother in Himalayan, looks wise scram 0.5 extra point. Fuel efficiency again Himalayan by little margin, service Himalayan obv.. Because of svc centers

[@bigbearbangalore]

Thanks for sharing

[@frankpinion4937]

Ive test ridden the Scrambler 400X & it's very lite-agile-nimble-plenty of power from throttle on throughout rev range. Great rider triangle for me as I'm 5' 7". Very comfortable bike to ride-suspension I thought was very good-plush compared to my Meteor & certainly better than old Himalayan. It's a fraction of the weight of the new Himalayan. I've had a sit on the new Himalayan as they just come in last week. It's got a lot bigger I feel & it's very heavy-even lifting it off the side stand takes some effort so I'd hate to think what it would be like to pick up laying on the ground. You pay an extra $AUD800 for tubeless spoke rims for Himalyan which takes it's price up to the CF Moto 450 MT which has fully adjustable suspension & tiwn cylinder engine. The other problem for Himalayan is the ridiculous placement of air filter under the tank which requires tank removal to change. Both Scrambler 400X & 450 MT can be changed without removal of tank. May not seem like a big deal but if you're taking it into a dealer the cost will certainly be a big deal. You'd want to change the air cleaner every time to adjust the tappets. I think for fast tracks the Himalayan ok but for tight technically difficult terrain-forget it. Too big & heavy.

[@bigbearbangalore]

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[@pradeeprajha]

Uncles with fully loaded Topguns 🥰🥰🥰 Mountain Background is Awesome sir, is it Chikmagalur or Hassan sir?

[@bigbearbangalore]

Mukkodlu

[@prsandeep1]

I am a new 450 user. Love this bike!! Could you please recommend some of the offroading classes you mentioned in your video (Bangalore area). Would be super helpful. Thanks in advance.

[@bigbearbangalore]

Congrats! Big Rock Dirt Park, Kolar.

[@prsandeep1]

Will check out. Thank you sir

[@atyt1517]

Feels peaceful listening to you guys.

[@bigbearbangalore]

🙏

[@kvdiwakar]

Most doubts cleared .. Most Questions answered… TY!

[@bigbearbangalore]

🙏

[@jasgsxr2726]

Great discussion guy's , especially from people thinking about a second bike.

[@bigbearbangalore]

🙏

[@Sheil400]

Can you please do a comparison video on no noise vs alpine earplugs? I want to upgrade from the foam ones, also try to include whether we can hear the intercom at triple digit speeds. Thanks

[@bigbearbangalore]

I use Alpine and happy with it. Will check on the poasibity of the comparison.

[@Sheil400]

@@bigbearbangalore where can we buy the alpine earplugs can't seem to find them online? Are they comfortable for long hours in the saddle?

[@bigbearbangalore]

I bought money several years ago. Don't recall from where.

[@manojnaikvlogs2022]

HI Sir, is the current windshield installed on Himalayan 450 enough to completely avoid wind on the face at 100-120 speeds? I see many are purchasing wind shields from Carbon Racing...I prefer RE's original accessory. suggests me I am 5'11.

[@antonyjohns]

Nt at all bro. Till 90 - 100 max.

[@bigbearbangalore]

I prefer OEM accessory. Morning can completely eliminate the wind. Can only deflect and mininise.

[@TheKishore88]

Hi Sir, which is the hand gaurd and the mirrors in scrambler 400x?

[@bigbearbangalore]

Barkbusters & RAM Tough Mirrors.

[@TheKishore88]

@@bigbearbangalore Thanks a lot sir