How New York Hip Hop Lost Its Cool

[@bigrick3267]

NY put too much hope on Bobby Shmurda failing to realize his music is shmediocre. dude was a flash in the pan and the time for him to pop off is past. he ain't that guy for NY hip hop no matter how much of a real one he is. The stuff he's released since getting out is ok-ish but nothing hot that's gonna blow up the scene, shit's changed way too much since he went away

[@SSJQ127]

Shmediocre is crazy 😂. But facts tho. I knew Bobby wasn't gonna be the same. It feels like everytime we get a little wave going, something happens or it just doesn't stick

[@truthistruth4186]

Bobby and Rowdy are some of the worst rappers that have a big name.

[@mrlofi333]

@@truthistruth4186 disrespect

[@truthistruth4186]

@@mrlofi333 I'm not lying tho. I've never heard them spit a line worth listening too. It's like they don't even try at all. People just like the jail story between them. They're terrible man

[@SpinelessHeretics]

@@truthistruth4186 nah both rowdy and Bobby's energy and charisma have value; I think they need the direction and feeling that pop had to really go to the next level. not sure that can be replicated though

[@mirrormatter6218]

Joe Budden is funny man. Guy really said "He and 50 were the end of New York", like he ain't just a one hit wonder.

[@katleholehlokoane9663]

Peeped that, slipped himself in like we wouldn't notice LMAO💀

[@keithdavid1544]

It's because of ebro

[@mylurr12]

He’s always doing that smh

[@jayc5756]

LMAO!!! 😂🤣

[@jackcarver5412]

He is not do your homework

[@chavinho7793]

Andre 3000 is really the goat of all the southern artists. What a legend he stood in front of a mean crowd of new Yorkers in 95 during east coast west coast beef and he told them niggas then the south got something to say. That type of attitude and rebellion is exactly what hip hop is to it's core. The south took over with hard work and talent. Facts.

[@Luckichiaralucianna]

🙌🏼

[@Messiah_Black]

Difference is, Andre could actually rap. These new nigga’s are just feasting on the dead corpse of the culture. They’re clout chasers, not real emcees. No where near the same category of an Outkast, Gheto Boys, or even Lil Wayne and Rick Ross.

[@akeembrown7945]

Crazy I never knew that until I watched the Hiphop series on Netflix. I was like... Shhyyyt okay Andre

[@Powerule23]

He also came out at a time when lyricism was everything. Even in the south, they had to bring the heat. 8 Ball & MJG, UGK, Scarface, etc.

[@chavinho7793]

@@Messiah_Black I agree these new rappers don't rap that good. But in today's market you don't have to.

[@jynthejedi]

Pop Smoke was gonna take NY to a different level man. It’s been said so many times but he really was a new incarnation of 50. The way he moved and everything. Only difference is, Fif had a grip on the streets so they knew what time it was, he had a small army behind him, Pop unfortunately got caught slipping. It really would’ve been something to see him take over the culture same way Fif did.

[@MrsBraxtonChrist]

that's a great perspective cause it's the truth!!

[@djfusionkotb]

@@MrsBraxtonChrist Pop smoke burrowed Uk sound. And 50 cent blew up because of DrDre beats and had a massive promotion push by the media. At its core. New York needs help to be successful. Pop smoke and 50 weren’t gonna be the ones to make New York cool again.

[@albertofava865]

@@djfusionkotb drill is a Chicago sound not Uk

[@djfusionkotb]

@@albertofava865 what you mean lol. Them pop smoke beats don’t sound like nothing like Chicago? And I don’t even consider Chicago owning Drill. Drill is trap beats from the south they stole.

[@albertofava865]

@@djfusionkotb Chicago made it famous, sosa made it famous, You people are overrating the Uk influence, is still only famous in the Uk, not Worldwide

[@rere0253]

After 50 was shot he was blackballed and couldn’t even get a record deal in New York. He was signed to Interscope which is a west coast label, Dr. Dre from California and Eminem from Detroit. The music industry side of New York barely fucked with 50. Unlike other artists 50 could not represent unity and brotherhood due to real street issues and the threats on his life. Everyone who did not fuck with him was already winning so he had to divide and conquer. The problem is that New York did not groom their artist and looked everywhere else for talent rather their own backyard. The south took over music then the internet came and now everyone sounds the fucking same. 50 cent is definitely one of the last authentic superstars that represented New York hip hop but he is not the reason for its decline.

[@VivoZzz]

You forget ASAP Rocky and Pop Smoke

[@bossanovamurdock5253]

Y'all cats don't know nothing about ny artist y'all continue to listen to lil uzi

[@bossanovamurdock5253]

And pop was suppose to be the next one to take over ny sip to that man solute

[@Messiah_Black]

@@VivoZzz No, they cool but don’t represent the “sound” of NY rap

[@joshingram071]

NYC fucked w 50 he had the streets in a chokehold after he came back from that shooting. It's bc of Ja Rule, Irv Gotti & the street influence of Supreme McGriff is what lead him to be blackballed

[@wajisaleem]

Big L would have been one of the greatest if he had stayed alive.

[@NY-Buddy]

Thats a FACT!!! his flow is Rap!

[@RealAmericanStar]

💯💯💯

[@emjay604]

Facts him and Pun

[@natsusatsujinki8342]

Dude would have been like AZ or Jadakiss. Loved in NY and on the East Coast but dude wasn't skilled enough to lock the West Coast and South.

[@elwinjohnson4004]

Big pun was nice also

[@kristopherwilliams6625]

Having lived in both the northeast and the south I can definitely say how NY treats their artists is totally different than the south. Because NY considers itself the birthplace of hip-hop they are always concerned with who is the best NY artist which encourages beef but whenever a new artist comes along in the south entire cities and regions get behind those artists to push them out to a national audience. The vibe is just totally different.

[@175dee9]

It’s the other way around, there’s more beef in the south fam. In Louisiana it’s a miracle if you make it as a rapper and in Texas it’s hard to make it mainstream because Texas ain’t a industry state and they only have one city and its Houston and they not even top 5. And for the other states like Mississippi, they don’t got no rappers. The only state in the south that I can say you right about is Florida. I been in both too, grew up in queens and Bronx and moved to Dallas more than 10 years having visited Louisiana for family. You got it the other way around shorty

[@kristopherwilliams6625]

@@175dee9 Wasn't my experience but I was in Memphis

[@craz5634]

@@175dee9 I think Louisiana and especially New Orleans is just especially hard to make it out of

[@dae1396]

@@175dee9 nah in New York every artist just wants to call themselves the King Of NY which is very annoying. And New York radio or industry wants you to have Bars or be the vison of New York just bc it’s the birthplace of hip hop trying to give new artists a high standard

[@thdoom81]

yup...too much competition...the south are africans and so they get behind each other

[@KidRivera1115]

It’s crazy to see that the Mecca of Hip Hop has lost its sound while all the other regions have kept their respected sounds alive. It’s just wild to hear NY rappers trying to sound like everyone else especially the UK at the moment, Hopefully NY gets back to their sound.

[@Alrokako]

Yeah never understood why yall got into drill music

[@Officer_Bumpdown_Brown]

@@seanq9884 NY Influence has been gone for 20 yrs bro... That's his point, not hatin I just expected yall to make a strong comeback by now

[@juliusc.8]

That's not necessarily a bad thing. NY influenced all of hip hop, now the rest of hip hop is influencing New York. What's missing is someone who can balance those sounds and make something new.

[@godofthisshit]

@Cesar Rivera Ok, which NY rapper sound like they from the UK? Card pulling time.

[@markl5998]

Hopefully New York "gets back their sound?" You mean boom bap? For the most part people don't want to hear that no more

[@shadowtear101]

As a NY native myself it's wild how NY rappers constantly rap about brotherhood in the city and in its boroughs yet constantly beef with each other.

[@anthonyramos9841]

NY overrated as hell. City is dirty, y’all are rude, everything is expensive, the youth and young adults talk so much shit but never back it up, y’all act a fool for no reason. And most of y’all New Yorkers are coming down to Florida like bruh nobody here want yall! For those New Yorkers moving down here to Florida are basically gonna turn the best state in the US into shit hole New York City

[@SDSOverfiend]

Hip hop is about competition. It was Bree in the back of battling

[@SoSikWitIt]

nobody in 2022 said the word brotherhood in any rap song wyo

[@duvveed3523]

A good limelight like myself as a west coast fam. But respect for the east

[@kitchris5902]

Not even boro v boro- it was block by block and now it’s building to building

[@ALBERTEINSTEIN777]

JOEY BADASS AND THE PRO ERA ALONG WITH THE WHOLE BEAST COAST MOVEMENT WAS LEFT OUT OF THIS STORYLINE. THEY KEPT NEW YORK ALIVE DURING THE 2010s.

[@ProdByNoiz]

until steez jumped off a building

[@giiotm8272]

@A B not even, those niggas might’ve been relevant for a year if that, nobody remembers anything about Joey Badass, he’s barely a footnote in the story of hip-hop. lmao.

[@jumpman366]

Not really lmaoo they were try hards relying on nostalgia. On the bright side Joey is a dope actor

[@ALBERTEINSTEIN777]

@@jumpman366 I disagree. Their Movement was Organic. It just took a Major Blow When Steez Decided to Exit Stage Left. 🎯

[@ALBERTEINSTEIN777]

@@giiotm8272 Says You.

[@mrshaneobuenosnodgrass3328]

Asap Rocky is to me is the bridge from the old school NY rap to the modern day rap. His flow is insane and always has the dopest beats.

[@LeGabruRJN]

His experimental sound sometimes really makes it hard for the mainstream to adopt, although i feel sometimes hes like 3/4 years ahead of everyone with his sound but again like the comments above he does put a lot of time in fashion/art etc which is fair play to him

[@tbj4855]

ASAP rocky that guy

[@fernandodominguez9143]

I guess… but the problem with ASAP rocky is that he really doesn’t even sound like a New York rapper. When I first heard him I thought he was a southern rapper from Houston literally wouldn’t know if he didn’t mention Harlem

[@evergreenstation2536]

Everybody in the asap crew is trash

[@tbj4855]

@@fernandodominguez9143 but you can’t blame him he tried to be different cause ny didn’t have nothing going on

[@rightlibertarian8355]

Hip hop is in it's dark age globally. There's more hip hop then ever, but quality is not what it used to be in 90s and 2000s.

[@marblestaircase4066]

People only remember the good stuff from back then so it only seems better

[@rightlibertarian8355]

@@marblestaircase4066 I agree. It seems like that and also nostalgia factor added to it. But today I don't find almost any hip hop content that interesting. I mean they have mixed with EDM and other genres that makes it so cheesy. Also hip hop back in 90s was more about crime, poverty, neighborhood etc. Now it's about chillin' at the penthouse with bikini laden chicks.

[@marblestaircase4066]

@@rightlibertarian8355 yea it’s true that hip hop has taken a turn for more less conscious music, but I think hip hop is in a golden age of genre bending right now. People like Kanye Tyler Kendrick and others have been bending hip hop in a really interesting way and I think that’s cool

[@rightlibertarian8355]

@@marblestaircase4066 yeah, there has been improvement in hip hop lately. This gives me hopes.

[@majormulatv]

@@rightlibertarian8355 mostly by bending over

[@Throwawayytm]

RIP to Pop Smoke, he was going to be the next big legend.

[@bittercamari]

I think he is that legend right now. but I agree. there's no one right now that has the charisma and power that he did.

[@thizisdez]

Mos Def.. 💙🙏🏽

[@fatted3004]

💯🙏

[@efcfan9295]

Coach is better

[@123mosdefandtalibkweli]

westside gunn is now their next legend

[@LeGabruRJN]

Griselda is a breath of fresh air man, Benny The Butcher will go even higher places

[@BCZ21]

N they Buffalo niggaz

[@onceagain6184]

Not at all. They are all boring and repetitive

[@BCZ21]

@@onceagain6184 so what is entertaining?? All you tight Jean niggaz say the same about lyrical rappers so let me hear what you prefer

[@logandavies8819]

@@onceagain6184 FLYGOD has the best shit 💯

[@Man_eee]

Conway is better. Griselda is only refreshing to people who don't listen to Underground rap. Roc Marciano had this sound over a decade ago.

[@namelesintelect4016]

The guys from New York who can actually spit haven't gone anywhere. While SoundCloud rap was ruling the airwaves NY was just Gathering the troops. Bars is back.

[@jayc5756]

True

[@MM-gp9mb]

No one cares about bars

[@mybestofriendo4615]

Being able to spit and being able to construct a good song are 2 different things.

[@oed706]

that's nostalgia pop smoke didn't have bars but was popping off cause it was new and interesting

[@mentalfortitude5718]

Bro people move in circles After the romance period came rock, after rock got glam in the 80s grunge came Eventually bars are gonna come back, but let’s be real it ain’t right now Always gonna be people who can spit Jid, Denzel curry, even ski mask has bars if you really break down what he’s saying, but people are definitely more interested in melody and harmony right now in hip hop

[@sfdko3291]

You forgot to mention how Griselda is from Buffalo and not from NYC. This made it a lot easier to circumvent the NYC radio shit.

[@bootneyleefarnsworth7307]

New York fell off due to creative stagnance, Rap fans are always looking for the next new sound or way of rapping and the South is always changing and evolving. The South also has a much larger black population than New York/the East Coast meaning it has a larger pool of talent.

[@sahulianhooligan7046]

True but Atlanta is smaller than New York

[@bootneyleefarnsworth7307]

@@sahulianhooligan7046 Who said anything about Atlanta??? The comparison is between the South IN GENERAL and New York/THE EAST COAST.

[@mlspeopleshoulddateeachoth6940]

Yea NY rap fell from its graces cause they didn’t want to evolve with the times. They stayed with the same sample based boom bap beats when the south was experimenting with crunk, snap, trap, chopped and screwed, etc

[@bootneyleefarnsworth7307]

@@mlspeopleshoulddateeachoth6940 Exactly.

[@raymonbristol9628]

Larger black population? How is that even relevant?

[@upat3455]

Too many Drill rappers and the ones that don't do Drill don't get the same hype.

[@jknumber5138]

Same hype? Good music is always heard. Even underground artist

[@timkenda8203]

i agree. I still have Joey Badass record "summer knights" that I play every week; that, to me, has a New York sound. But Joey doesn't go out and shoot people and call out his ops so it doesn't get played.

[@rayedrama]

‼️‼️‼️‼️

[@kensley94]

Thats ironic since drill always existed (not the name itself) but it wasnt recognised....yet (the ones know im talking about) But for me i dont like it at all, rap should be uplifting

[@jonatanmejia7825]

As a native New Yorker I can say it’s due to the lack of community within one another. Everyone is busy competing for clout while other states know how to build.

[@YoungRiaz]

If we are talking about mainstream wise for the New York hip hop style then yes you’re right but if talking about underground that’s a different topic

[@bittercamari]

@@YoungRiaz what's happening in the underground? where's it at?

[@YoungRiaz]

@@bittercamari I am not sure how to explain but it different

[@YoungRiaz]

I have a question what does New York think of Muslim hip hop group Deen squad

[@javionriley8739]

It’s because majority of the afro descendant in NYC population is now majority immigrants!!! Most of the black Americans in NYC (descendants of USA chattel slavery) are in the south

[@darksideon]

Not supporting Tupac also had a long term effect. It's crazy how people forget that he's a east coast rapper that was proud to be from NY, but they NY didn't support him so he went to the west coast. His song "Old School" which is great btw showed how much he loved NY.

[@soundshape6747]

He moved to Oakland at a young age before he was signed and turned his back on New York after the Quad studio incident that left him Robbed and shot. He thought Biggie and Puff set him up and used that to fuel the east coast west coast feud.

[@ReydelSans]

@@soundshape6747 it wasn’t biggie or puff that set him up on the elevator incident Jimmy Henchman was the one that put a hit out on 2pac cuz of jealousy. But since he survived he still believed that big, puff & Jimmy had something to do with it. What’s weird is that around the 50 Cent & Game feud, Jimmy talked the game out of being in this whole feud and was willling to save his life. But fo some reason almost got pac killed, & killed one of 50’s close friends “Lodi Mac” cuz he slapped his sons face. Jimmy Henchman was Interesting🤔

[@051lando]

tupac turned on NY. sop trying to make pac into some saint who did nothing wrong

[@darrenraphael]

That happened to 50 cent as well. Tupac and 50 cent even new the same people on the streets and had the same enemies.

[@berke2336]

I feel like A$ap, Joey Bada$$ and now City Morgue are keeping NY strong. Run the Jewels is 50% NY and Aesop Rock is still releasing increasingly good stuff. NY hip hop and rap will never die, it'll just multiply.

[@fr00tloops]

City morgue for real good call

[@Devante516]

Asap? 😂

[@lorenzoking9944]

Don’t forget Griselda

[@fabolousjada5070]

He don't know his srtost he's talking without ever walking in NYC all you hear now is bronx drill and Brooklyn

[@PanAfricanCommunalist]

Rocky makes Houston rap lmao

[@tembodiaz]

What an interesting perspective. I remember the beef between Nas and J and then 50 and Ja. It was all ridiculous. But it makes sense that those situations are what killed NY hiphop. I’m from Miami. We have had our own sound down here since the 80s and although NY hiphop will always be mg first love. I will always represent the South. And will always love Southern hiphop. Great video!

[@nickmandleberg]

50 was the apex of NY gangsta rap, right man right place right time. Just as hip hop was at its commercial zenith, 50 had the look, the back story, the undeniable talent, the ferocity, the fearlessness, the backing, the entrepreneurial spirit and the business brains which enabled him to package and promote his product as perfect pop music for the time. His music was played globally by everybody everywhere from all walks of life in a frenzy of hype not seen really since MJ. Sure others had been big stars but 50 was something else. A genuine cultural icon. He was both a credible artist and a comic book character for kids. He made a major and credible Hollywood movie and released computer games, clothing lines etc etc . He was a phenomenon. He milked his product for all it was worth just before the music industry imploded and project budgets would have to streamline, of course because of the internet, streaming and social media becoming the global medium. He learnt from the past entertainers and played his hand beautifully. How does a rapper top that ?!

[@jackd6881]

Talent? what talent? dudes trash on the mic and always has been... easily the worst big rapper to come out of here. He did market himself well I give you that and he'd beat the fuck out me for saying what im saying right now.

[@NYSBG96]

💯

[@TTo-pr2vc]

50 authentic asf but r.i.p PRODIGY H.N.IC.

[@nigginthewoodpile7721]

💯💯💯

[@TTo-pr2vc]

@@nigginthewoodpile7721 u already 💯🏆💯🏆

[@ThoughtOuter]

New York is either too interested in Fashion or rappers usually tend to get mixed up in gangs and tragically end up getting shot. For instance, NY literally had ASAP Rocky and if he really wanted to he could be running NY with no problem he has the fanbase and the skills but instead he focuses on fashion too much. Same could be said about Joey Badass who decided to get into acting instead of releasing more music (In his case he is very underrated still). Lets also not forget that most of the NY rappers tend to not unify and always beef with each other more frequent than others in different coasts

[@fabrikskhadafi9473]

Bingo this is the most accurate comment I’ve seen yet .

[@ericglenn9984]

I just think the wave Rocky started passed him up.

[@karlovanjak2576]

NAS IS STILL KING OF NY WHO FOCUSES HIMSELF ONLY ON MUSIC AND MONEY...

[@timkenda8203]

Summer Knights is still one of my favorite albums to listen to, that's what I think of when I think "modern new york sound". But I think the industry also pushes drill wayyyy too hard rn, so if you aren't a drill artist, you kind of get pushed to the side.

[@yz9394]

The streets didn’t fuck with them even tho asap rocky really from the streets I know ppl that know bro but it was all hipsters and outta towners fuckin with they movements.

[@neighborhoodka]

They throwing the blame at each other when they both did it

[@luclongly529]

The internet (mainly) and multiple other factors played a part. Hip hop is just evolving.

[@danteofficial7762]

90's was NYC rap at it highest level. The hunger and the talent was unmatched. This era can't make that happen unfortunately. The talent is just not there. I miss the good old days of the NY rap scene I don't care for drill or mumble or any of this new shit.

[@michaelcox3353]

When Griselda started coming out New York was like, "finally!" A new sound that is still original with old school roots. Plus dudes spit better than everyone else. No Atlanta or Chicago influences, just pure east coast hip hop at its finest. All I'm saying tho is that BOLDY JAMES IS TAKING OVER DETROIT! One song at a time.

[@natsusatsujinki8342]

Except they were never spitting better tham everyone else 😆

[@christophers7160]

You just talkin now, Griselda been rapping circles around everyone for the better part of the last 4+ years

[@natsusatsujinki8342]

@@christophers7160 Crooked I. Black Thought. Lupe Fiasco. Royce 59. J Cole. Nas. KB. Aha Gazelle. Z Ro. Pusha T. Kanye West. KRS. Horseshoe Gang. >

[@natsusatsujinki8342]

And also Flatbush Zombies and Bizzle.

[@PanAfricanCommunalist]

lol detroit and michigan in general has their own unique sound that's getting really popular. Don't think boldy is taking over as much as i love his music

[@oliverphoenix1563]

Griselda is running New York now. Your old droog, Mach Hommy, billy woods, El Camino, are some others that are keeping New York alive. Side note I’m surprised MF DOOM wasn’t even mentioned considering how vital New York was to him and his music.

[@DuckWitDa30]

Exactly

[@cj-wv2ts]

i did notice his absence too but tbf he wasn't ever on rap radio like that

[@wastelandwanderer2693]

A lot of points being said in this video about NY rap can be said exactly about Cali/West Coast rap. I'm from Cali and it seems like we haven't really been in the mainstream since the 90's when Eazy, Dre, Snoop, Cube, and Pac were blowing up. I'd like to see a video done like this about West Coast hip hop.

[@patrickmiller1674]

Um, the game? Kendrick? Joey fatts? Nipsey

[@pibstarr]

Just heard Vince Staples new single on Power 106 this morning. Tyler winning Grammys and Earl still putting out great shit. There's currently 7 up and coming Cali artist on the XXL freshman list this year. Madlib from the underground is getting mainstream praises. Alchemist on national TV performed with Gibbs on Fallon earlier this year. West Coast hasn't really fallen off it just evolved with the times because it wasn't as elitist like NY. Look at Shoreline Mafia and Blueface rapping like Suga Free from Ptown. It's being pretty well represented. Shout out to the Bay too, I bump E40 and Too Short, Guapdad, Andre Nickatina, and Hiero on the regular

[@lukejones7164]

@@patrickmiller1674 From between 2pac's death to the rise of Kendrick Lamar, the West Coast basically irrelevant with The Game being the only West Coast artist at that time to blow up.

[@bp2000k]

@@pibstarr Westcoast Rap never disappoints me. 🔥🔥🔥

[@ThomasFoolery8]

@@patrickmiller1674 to be fair, California is a huge place, so per capita we expect a larger amount of quality rappers from there. Especially since it’s considered to be an entertainment and culture Mecca.

[@thaneros]

You can't put the blame on anyone but the south just added more flavor in the sound of hip-hop. Which in turn got more people listen because if you couldn't get the lyrics the music was bumping.

[@1deep499]

Facts 💯

[@barslounge_preme]

Nah South ruined hip hop

[@dairepurnelll]

@@barslounge_preme how

[@barslounge_preme]

@@dairepurnelll they dumbed down the sound.

[@kbz396]

South corny

[@justteezy91]

It started after New York stopped sounding like New York..they started making records that sounded like down south shit or implementing southern music into their style..A$AP Rockys mixtape LongLiveA$AP is a prime example

[@mikexxxmilly]

That didn’t start the fall it just sealed it. Outkast started the shift

[@bmhwdy]

Yeah, as soon as I saw the title for this video I thought “well what IS New York Hip-Hop at this point?” They’ve got everyone from Fivio to 6ix9ine to Griselda. There’s not really a specific style.

[@jonp9300]

Asap rocky did not sound like he was from the south. Slowing down your voice is not the only element to Houston or screw music. But I wouldn’t expect NY niggas to understand that.

[@ugmcfj]

Us in Houston definitely saw the influence and at first listen had a lot of friends think he was from Texas.

[@MrEOM41]

@@mikexxxmilly well kinda but in the 2000s NY had they own sound

[@khingofswordz43]

Boom Bap Hip Hop ain't dead son ! We can clearly see hardcore Rap artist like Apathy, Vinnie Paz, Run The Jewels, Krumbsnatcha, Blaq Poet, & many others still dropping albums & doing very well. What's going on is the mainstream & popular rap is moved to the forefront over the Boom Bap Rap. The corporations found a way to pimp & profit on popular rap....so in a nutshell us that's staying true to hip hop is now playing the backseat while plastic rappers gets to drive the whip to sort of speak. Also what slowed NY Hip Hop down was NY, (you can ask anybody this), NY only supported its own artist. Other east coast cities like Newark, NJ, Philly, Baltimore, & VA had to be the best out there cities just to get support from NY back in the day....We really can't be mad @ the South & the Mid West for going hard & claim a spot in hip hop by supporting there own artist as well as other region artist......💯👍👍👍👍👍👍👍

[@aw2584]

Na brah you just old and never moved on from what you listened to in your teenage years, nobody needs to listen to no corny ass conspiracy theory obsessed Vinnie Paz (btw not sure what this list have to do with NYC), NYC has to reinvent itself and pioneer some new type shit, stop biting the south or UK like theyve been doing and get creative.

[@tonydamari9468]

This just shows how dead the New York scene became, the list of artists you mentioned are all old artists albeit they're still releasing music, but which new artist has New York produced? Every other city is breaking new talent while New York is stuck on nostalgia.

[@khingofswordz43]

@@tonydamari9468 Well....New York do have new Boom Bap artist but is playing the rear to the industry. Guys like Maino, Murder Mook, Sru Bangas, Uncle Murda, Rustee Juxx, and few.others but again New York only promote New York.....its gotten a little more open to do songs & buy music from other regions.....back in the day, naw Gee....again other East Coast cities like Boston, Jersey, Philly, Baltimore, & VA put out some dope underground hip hop. That's one of the reasons why New York rappers move to other cities.....Q-Tip in Atlanta, Jay-Z in Cali, Fat Joe in Miami.....New York knows if you want to put music out on a global scale you have to get out just being a local artist......💯👍👍👍👍👍👍👍

[@sahulianhooligan7046]

Boom Bap faded because of supply and demand. A lot of the rappers you named aren't listened to by Gen Z like that. Corporations can only benefit from something if its popular in the first place, especially with younger audience

[@khingofswordz43]

@@sahulianhooligan7046 You certainly right....it all comes down to supply & demand, or what I like to call it "Hip Hop Jerrymanderinhg"......

[@DuckDodgers345]

"We are Hip-Hop Me, you, everybody, we are Hip-Hop So Hip-Hop is going where we going So the next time you ask yourself where Hip-Hop is going Ask yourself: where am I going? How am I doing? 'til you get a clear idea". - Yasiin Bey (Mos Def)

[@GStampedeIII]

There goes your Cultural appropriation loop hole. Most Def said it.. so hip hop is mines too lol

[@jonp9300]

@@GStampedeIII it’s yours if you live within the culture. It’s the soundtrack to your life. That’s what he means

[@missbel8849]

Pop Smoke more than likely would’ve changed the game for NY. I can only imagine what DMX’s album would’ve done as well. I wish that collabs w/ the OGs & New artists would get pushed more out there, especially like the collabs w/ A$AP Mob & Method Man.

[@dwaynejpeterkin]

New York destroyed themselves they had some stars coming up and didn’t want to help them the south always helped each other and grew together

[@djfusionkotb]

I blame the “This is real hiphop” boom bap rappers and fans. Out of pride from the birth place of hiphop. New York attempt to take back the crown. Instead of being humbled that hiphop is growing they hated anything that wasn’t New York. Completely forgetting why hiphop was so fun. They created a lyrical niche genre only east coast can love. Early New York hiphop had simple lyrics and they forgot that. This also affected the west coast because the west felt they had to prove them selves lyrically and west coast music started to sound boom bap as well. Meanwhile the south didn’t care about lyrics and produce music that appeased to both good beats and decent lyrics. It wasn’t until the age of the internet where music started to blend. Chief keef from Chicago sounding like he’s from the south. Kendrick sounds like he’s from east coast but he’s LA.

[@MrsBraxtonChrist]

Federal Facts, I just said that they got too cocky and disregarded the other cities and regions that had major talent too.

[@jackd6881]

Man by the time NY rap scene fell off almost every big rapper had long abandoned the boom bap sound for the most part. The early 2000's Hip hop scene was all about overproduced r and b club bangers, that was killed the scene imo.

[@jackd6881]

@@thekidthatdid8788 and if you take away the fancy club beats that usually accompanies most of 50 cent's music you get a c tier rapper\singer that has the lyrical versatility of a rock.

[@jackd6881]

@@thekidthatdid8788 too bad the majority of those artist will be forgotten, who's gonna be bumping "Buy you a drank" or Chief Keef's 100th song about getting high 10-20 years down the road unironically. Meanwhile records like Enter the 36 chambers has stood the test of time for almost 30 years now. Even 50 hasnt made a hit record since Scott Storch and Dre stopped carrying him, like most rap fad chasers there styles are forgotten and replaced by other underwhelming rappers who will be forgotten as soon as there ten seconds dry up. Young people want to emulate whats on the radio and around the early 2000's anything with the new york sound was quickly swept from rotation and never returned since. Kids want to rep what they hear, and if you grow up hearing club rap from the south and trap music you are gonna emulate the sound because that is what you are most familiar with.

[@djfusionkotb]

@@thekidthatdid8788 Huge fan of 36 myself not being biased but without New York hiphop wouldn’t exist lol. But once hiphop got to LA, Memphis, New Orleans, ATL, Texas, and Florida. Hiphop really blossomed.

[@PotatoSeb]

I love when you talk about the history of hip hop, it would be cool to see more videos like these, focusing on old eras Keep up the good work sir 👍

[@gtajets5867]

The 50 Cent & Cam’ron beef was the final nail in the coffin for NY Hip Hop

[@Bingo_the_Pug]

Camron started it, if you recall 50 said on the radio “I don’t have any problems with Dipset” then Cam called & started hurling insults for some reason

[@samuraibeastwarrior2886]

@@Bingo_the_Pug yet Cam'ron is scare to go to war with Jadakiss and The Loxs

[@markoz673bajen8]

Nope it was all about Cam. Everyone diss Killa Cam. Murda Mase for life.

[@gtajets5867]

@@samuraibeastwarrior2886 we’re talking about real beefs and diss records not some pandemic/social media concert 🤣😂🤣

[@samuraibeastwarrior2886]

@@gtajets5867 I'm just saying

[@Iron_Mikaveli]

The east coast as a whole needs an overhaul. I’m from Jersey and there’s not a lot of brotherhood. The old heads are damn near underground and don’t want to help nobody and the young heads are too busy killing each other to actually prosper. The south had the game on lock which help create the SoundCloud era. NY is a thing of the past until further notice

[@treesnclips5845]

It’s honestly fairly simple, the sound just doesn’t stand the test of time. The south was ahead sound wise which is why we still flourishing

[@equinox95]

West Coast rap took the crown at one point then the south started to edge in late 90s early 00s. New York still held the crown but from mid 00s they started to slip.....that explains why rap turned into rubbish when it strayed too far from home.

[@tyrafan4life632]

It didn't start in New York, people from the South had rapped on records decades before New York. NYC only helped to make it popular.

[@equinox95]

@@tyrafan4life632 They say it was a Jamaican that started modern rap.

[@tyrafan4life632]

@@equinox95 He didn't rap.

[@equinox95]

@@tyrafan4life632 He started the sound system mic and DJ part of it, that was the beginning of Hip Hop.

[@tyrafan4life632]

@@equinox95 Sound systems and DJs have NOTHING to do with Rap. That's Hip-hop which is a sub-culture not a genre of music.

[@mylogicisundenyable]

Hip Hop went Pop. That's what killed it!

[@ceasarcruz8312]

exactly, what people call "hip hop" today, whatever the fuck it is it's not it...

[@sahulianhooligan7046]

Ok but irrelevant to the topic of the video

[@ceasarcruz8312]

@@sahulianhooligan7046 more relevant than you think, as NY is the birthplace of hip hop culture...

[@gokuparaguaio1319]

Hip-Hop is my favorite musical genre since childhood, but is time to make Disco mainstream again

[@mylogicisundenyable]

@@Holasoyunurl123 oh snap yo ma'ma calls me that too. Lmmfao!

[@toneriggz]

50 was part of the problem but he’s right- Hot 97 and Power 105 played a role as well. And the irony is Ebro and most of that morning show aren’t even from NYC.

[@__Babaaaa]

I understand J.Cole from the south but when we talk about that 3 headed monster (Cole, K.Dot, Drizzy) let us remember Cole has always been a representative of New York as well. He went to college there and got signed to RocNation there.

[@insideroutside]

This is true but I don't consider Coles sound to be distinctly new York or north Carolina. Nobody else sounds like him or has beats like his. He is just cole world. Kendrick is also a stand alone like he has experimental cali sound nobody else is doing stuff on beats like k.dot

[@__Babaaaa]

@@insideroutside I totally agree! He has a distinct sound! But I wish NY claimed him abit more because he really puts on for them..

[@jeremyjoaseus2004]

@@__Babaaaa how DF does he put on for NY when he’s from the south and says that religiously thru his music NY would look like clowns tryna claim him

[@samuelwilliams812]

Moved to NYC in 2001. Here's what surprises me about the local scene: Even the low power, left-of-the-dial college radio stations don't break new acts. Maybe it's because the mixtape culture (and now social media) is where all the action is, but I came from a place (Bay Area) where stations were running independent hip hop around the clock. Artists literally had to sell platinum (and be hooked in with the right co-artists, it appears) just to get heard in their own home town.

[@Roy_Al_Blak202]

I feel Harry Fraud and French was on the right path earlier on updating the sound. Arab Muzik, Statik Selektah , Heatmakerz too

[@MarkHallOfFame]

That’s a really good observation!!! I actually agree with that statement.

[@Roy_Al_Blak202]

@@MarkHallOfFame thanks

[@Jurissic]

rappers never wanted to be rappers. now cuz rapping makes so much money all these kids dont even finish elementary and start rapping, that's what makes it loose it's cool. leaned out 15 year olds who play playstation all day are not hard, it's just music for kids now.

[@Man_eee]

Bullseye 🎯

[@victormartins7867]

Billy Woods, THERAVADA, Navy Blue, MIKE... The list goes on. NY is still home of some of the most creative and skilled rappers out right now, it is just that the mainstream sound is shaped by trends originated in other parts of the US.

[@javianjohnson8746]

I think before his death, Pop Smoke really put NYC back on the right track of being seen best. His drill sound (even though it’s REALLY UK grime) is now around the entire country so the influence is spreading like crazy. Even though IMO Lil Baby is the best in the game, NYC is definitely competing again

[@CREOLEHEAT]

They are competing but I think Pop Smoke would've actually given NY the top rapper in the game. Maybe not as soon had he not died but I definitely think by 24-25. He was the total package. With time his lyrics would've evolved & improved.

[@ViolentMLG]

Pop Smoke evolved drill though, I do not put Pop Smoke in the same boat as any other NY or UK drill rapper. Go back and check 2018 drill, Pop used adlibs and did things differently, him and Fivio evolved the sound. Then, looking further, Just look what the producers did on shoot for the stars, nobody infused trap/drill like that, Pop was 1 of 1 for sure, and was the future of NYC. Everyone was Jacking the drill wave and claiming it was 'up next', not trying to be that dude who was like; 'I been saying', but I knew once pop died all of these dudes were way too generic to carry on the torch. When CJ popped off and I heard Whoopty, my first thought was; 'Its not awful but its generic', and then he turned around and never produced a hard hit again. People spent all of 2020 debating who was 'next up' and then the scene died. Pop put NYC on the map again, and gave it its respect back after what Takashi did (even though in his prime, he was on fire), and for that, he's the most recent king of NY in the past decade, and that's real.

[@3lancerofficialmaybe871]

It's UK Drill not UK Grime, there's a difference. Pop Smoke took that UK Drill sound from Traphouse mob/808melo and made great music with it, something that 99.999% of UK Drill guys can't do for one song, and Pop did it with over 10 songs.

[@cr0be]

It isn't really UK grime tho. There's a pretty noticeable difference

[@roadrunner7687]

Scrolling reading this as I continue to bump NY music😂😂😂😂

[@kingofme8863]

NY has lost it's leadership ability regarding it's own ....Now it's just a bunch of followers sounding like everyone else but themselves. I never thought I see the day that NY becomes a bunch of followers. We use to set the trends & the standard ... those days are gone.

[@averysmithsr7679]

The minute Andre 3k said the South got something to say , Everyone been following the South wave 🌊 every since

[@chromehearter]

What the fuck is this video lol do you not pay attention to hip hop? All the youth is listening to NY drill. Fivio Foreign, Kay Flock, Sheff G, Sleepy Hallow, Dougie B that drill scene is popping off HARD rn Everybody is trynna get sturdy like NY and using their slang. Even in the underground, Griselda is running the game and it isn’t even close. New York hasn’t been this big in the rap game in a long time.

[@megaboymegaboy1987]

MEGABOY says New York will always be the best still we got the most OG Hip Hop rappers I like and find impressive I listen to rappers that matter like Wu-Tang New Yorks for life Hip Hop started in NYC! 👐🗽🎶 Most of my family is from the Bronx and I'm proud of it thanks to all yall!

[@Juanhernandez-zx7kt]

To be fair, most of hip hop lost its cool.

[@VivoZzz]

Depends on who you listening to

[@ducksoop.x]

Old head mentality

[@fitforfreelance]

This. IF (big IF) you think NYC rap fell off, then you probably believe rap fell off too.

[@Thespeedrap]

Depends on who you listen to.I stopped listening to the radio since Covid showed up and I'm glad that mumble so called rap needs to be done away with SERIOUSLY 😔☹️☹️😝

[@goh02]

@@ducksoop.x Na man, Lupe, Kendrick, Cole, D Brown are greath, but the atention go the wrong people like “munble” rappers. In 2000 era all was about Eminem, Jay Z, Nas, Dre, 50, G Unit, Lloyd Banks, The Game, Outkaz, Busta Rhymes, DMX, Common, D12, Cypress Hill, The Roots, Doom, Big L, Snoop, Xzibit and Missy Elliot. Man... and just think if count the late 80s and all 90s... Today are greath rappers, but sorry, before was better.

[@holychronic]

Hip-hop has evolved into an untamed beast. We know where it originated at. It's a culture that will eventually come back home. but until then the flavor, the crown; is down south. It's an international phenom- it's everywhere. n.y should b proud not h8ing.

[@moniquewelsh1977]

Beast Coast was also slept on. Pro Era, Flatbush Zombies, Underachievers…. Some of NY’s greatest.

[@lil10dot]

joe is wild for self inserting himself into hip hop history 💀💀💀

[@paulpheonix8840]

It’s also worth mentioning people like Joey/PRO ERA, A$AP Mob, and Flatbush Zombies that also kept NY relevant during the early to mid 2010s before NY drill hit the scene. These acts may have took styles from other regions/time periods but they still made sure you knew they were from NY.

[@mikexxxmilly]

Personally, I’ve always felt that as soon as Outkast came out, hip hop changed forever. It slowly shifted south because of them, goodie mob, ugk and everyone that came after. Certain New York dudes always hated on them too and fans noticed that corny mindset. No one likes hateful people

[@GrinchyGreen334]

UGK actually came before OutKast bro. OutKast came out around 93 94, UGK’s first album was 92. Eightball & MJG made Comin out hard in 93. Before them there was Geto Boys and Scarface

[@kelvinnguyen7883]

You could also argue this for the West Coast too

[@Civic06]

Not really we was listening to Geto Boys, Scarface and a lot of West Coast artist. Outkast was definitely a breath of Fresh Air, and then TI and Lil Wayne come on they were nice. But still till this day the best rapper alive is from NY.

[@TheEvilWalrusLord]

The south got sumn a say Edit: lol just got up to the part of the video where they show 3stacks I hadn't watched it yet when I commented I was curious to see comments before the video 😂

[@TheCreatorNFE]

As a Southerner myself, Memphis born and raised, I can see why when it comes to some artists down here. Especially their early works. I wasn't crazy about Southern rap and didn't get into Hip-Hop as a whole until Em came out. I used to watch The Box a lot, but ‘My Name Is’ is the only song I ever called and requested, which got me in A LOT of trouble. Afterwards, my focus shifted to checking out other rappers that I had passed up on, which is where I fell in love with Wu-Tang and just the East Coast in general, but mainly NY. G-Unit changed everything for me. Out of everyone out nowadays, I still bump Lloyd Banks, GZA, Ghostface and Raekwon religiously. Stack Bundles too. Really hate he didn't get to have much of a career. I will add, as far as the South goes, Curren$y stays in rotation for me as well.

[@thenewyorkhip-hopspot5485]

Credit goes out to Nicki for putting NY on her back during the dark ages

[@insideroutside]

I'm glad somebody noticed her here. They really dont give that women her flowers thats why she be upset. Cause she literally was carrying the east coast pretty much alone

[@natsusatsujinki8342]

Maybe as a new/recent act. Jay Z and Nas were still holding it down when ymcmb was taking over. Busta. At best Nicki Minaj was getting more spins outside of home but most likely due to the South

[@Man_eee]

🧢

[@insideroutside]

@@natsusatsujinki8342 in 2008 through the 2010's era nas and jayz were in there retirement phase so they were releasing albums ever 4 to 6 years. In 2020 nas went back into dropping frequently because his and jayz beef ended and Jay stop shelving nas. Busta last album before 2020 was in 2012 and the on before that was 2009. Nobody was holding down new York like that in the 2010 era. That's how they lost there sound

[@natsusatsujinki8342]

@@insideroutside Nas dropped 08. Jay Z had recently dropped American Gangsta. Distant Relatives came out 2010. BP3 2009

[@luishuncho2054]

The death of pop smoke revived New York music. The rise of New York drill has been huge and has started making a lot of noise.

[@bittercamari]

I think it's given the city a clearer identity but on that same note, drill feels like a dead end

[@ashantinyongo7632]

The *rise of Pop Smoke, his death killed a lot of the buzz

[@luishuncho2054]

@@ashantinyongo7632 I love pop smoke and his rise did start the movement but his death brought so much more attention since you got people who never heard drill listening to it to see who pop smoke was.

[@ashantinyongo7632]

@@luishuncho2054 All of those people were going to find out who he was anyway, dude was next up next up

[@Man_eee]

Drill is already dying & real lyrical rap is on the rise again.

[@azae00Vids]

Nas and AZ are still putting that heat so I'll rock with that

[@VitaminVisionTV]

how can a program director blame a singular one artist. Ebro is buggin

[@FunkSwaggMusiK]

The best person to break down the Fall of New York Hip Hop is Troi "Star" Torain. He was at Hot 97 in the Early to Mid 2000s. He breaks down all the shady shit that was going on there at the time and the scams they constantly pulled on people and who they had to play on the radio all the time. I wont spoil it but he names two other FEMALE NY DJs that played apart in NY Downfall, causing Beef and or Drama. I'll let yall figure who he talking about 😉😉😉😉

[@ygo900]

You got links to any videos I can watch to get more info?

[@user-ju4ew6hn1i]

@@ygo900 yh I need a link for this.

[@conrad2639]

The fact it took the verzuz for the Lox and Jadakiss to get their flowers, should tell you the problem is with everyone. The fans, radio personality, artists. Everyone.

[@RPT_CHUPA]

I haven't watched yet but I know this gon be lit

[@allergictofollowing]

New York dont even talk the same thats how Sad the city is right now

[@boozywoozy73]

New York never had a great class of rappers after da 90's and early 2000's nyc rappers. Papoose is the best nyc rapper to come out 2005 and after. He never reached his full potential. In my opinion they don't have a halfway decent rapper draft class 2005 to present day. Plus only a few you could consider a lyricist and Nyc followed trends too much trying to sound like the south and other regions.

[@richynwaehi2182]

I don't know why Big L Is highly underrated.He needs to get more attention.

[@sirraldnus8590]

Not much material available

[@richynwaehi2182]

@@sirraldnus8590 Yh that's a good point

[@bootneyleefarnsworth7307]

*A Ranking of the 4 Major Regions in the Rap Game From the Strongest Region to the Weakest:* -*#1 the South* : No region does it better, the most creative of the 4 major regions. No region is more diverse in terms of sounds and styles than the South, no region has created more Rap subgenres than the South and no region has had a longer reign than the South. -*#2 the East Coast* : This region has always found a way to stay relevant, even at times when they aren't the top region. -*#3 the West Coast* : The West has a noticeable lack of technically proficient rappers compared to the other regions which is a knock against that region from the perspective of stylistic diversity. They also tend to go through periodic droughts where they only have one or two rappers. -*#4 the Midwest* : The weakest of the major regions, the only region that has never had a reign. There's never been an era when the charts were dominated by Midwest artist or by a Midwest sound. The Midwest is also the only region that has never developed any identifiable sounds that represent their region which is a major blow from a production standpoint(The South has Crunk, Trap etc.; the East Coast has Break Beat, Boom-bap etc.; the West Coast has G Funk, Gangster etc.).

[@bootneyleefarnsworth7307]

Hip Hop isn't a genre of music...it's a 1970s Bronx subculture that died out in the early 80s. Rapping/Rap was a part of Black American society decades before the Hip Hop movement existed.

[@noir269]

i was ready to disagree but this makes a lot of sense. Hip hop now doesn't even have half of the stuff what made hip hop in the early 80's. who tf cares about graffiti, DJing, or breakdancing anymore? lmao

[@ceasarcruz8312]

@@noir269 what people today call "hip hop" is not it at all! I hate that mumbly trap bullshit is called "hip hop" when in reality, mostly it's unintelligible garbage.

[@bootneyleefarnsworth7307]

@@ceasarcruz8312 Hip Hop isn't music at all...that's been explained.

[@ceasarcruz8312]

@@bootneyleefarnsworth7307 I never said that hip hop is music... however music is big part of it :)

[@EliteBadFrog]

You forgot to mention Pop Smoke, he was a rising NYC superstar. Sadly his run got cut short. RIP pop smoke

[@marquanmr]

New yorkers had a distinct advantage in rap. Labels always wanted talent from new York. Were now in the Internet age, where anybody from anywhere can get on. New York was never the best in hip hop. We just didn't have a choice back then

[@Alilnoided99]

😂bruh! The only people keeping that sound alive is them backpack rappers. I wouldn't go hard on new york if they respected other region. I'm talking about old ny.

[@Alilnoided99]

Their style aged worse than any other region.

[@berserkronin7654]

griselda and the drill scene are the only things keeping NY alive rn. losing pop was a big hit to NY getting back on top

[@chriswalker9161]

I’m from Atlanta and love the music from the south. New York music Ight but no one wants to hear it, Ik it’s how they talk and rap but their voices are annoying, I just can’t take no one from New York seriously cause being from New York is like 60 percent of their personality. They just need a new flow and new Rhyme scheme.

[@hfiremoonmusicrecords4804]

I’m from Philly & I been telling ppl over two years now the new New York Rappers. Fivo ,Young Ma, Prince of New York, A boggie, & a few others were heating up the city & since Pop not here no more R.I.p pop smoke Fivo is getting the push as top guy let’s come back to this topic next year around this time & it’ll be another Artist in the conversation to bring New York back sounds like progress to me Hip hop since 1978 died in 2005

[@DuckDodgers345]

50 let his situation with ja rule lead him to believe he was superman because he started going at rappers who he was over commercially but lyrically not even close being in the same weight class (Nas & Jadakiss). He also couldn't keep up the commercial momentum after 2005 which can clearly be seen in the lack of quality music. During the Rick Ross (Ja Rule #2) situation he saw his run was over.

[@sbrooks904]

He isolated himself because he was so large at the time. Turned out to be his demise. I think people like drake learned from that

[@GStampedeIII]

You think 50 was supposed to look at Jadakiss & Nas and think to himself "those guys are better lyrically then me, maybe I shouldn't beef with them" lol

[@sbrooks904]

@@GStampedeIII he didn’t have to say shit to nas. That shit was so forced

[@grunggadx25]

@@sbrooks904 all he said was nas was a simp which was true

[@DuckDodgers345]

@@grunggadx25 "They say Jada defeated him Joe too street for him What's next? I guess it's for Nas to Ether him Y'all awaiting a MC burial". "My queen used her milkshake to bring y'all to my slaughterhouses". -Nas 😎🔥

[@sioul8485]

heres something else that needs to be considered.....alot of the ghettos that created the classic boom bap sounds of the 80s n 90s have now been gentrified and hipsterfied. alot of the black new york that birthed and nurtured rap music have moved down south and anywhere else that has affordable rent and home prices.....

[@Kee-kay]

This is full cap look at the BX right now

[@nwcoastlife]

New York is to Hip Hop, what Hollywood is to the movie industry. It’s the Mecca of hip hop. Other places get their moment in the sun from time to time, but it always comes back around to New York. It’s impossible to overstate how huge the scene is there. There are tons of MC’s in New York who are virtually anonymous outside of New York, but they’re getting over huge in the underground there, blowing up shows and on the mixtape scene.

[@belahtheone]

Pop Smoke was bout to get to the top 5 of all time within the next decade. RIP gone too soon

[@tristanirby6272]

No disrespect to the South, Midwest, West Coast or anywhere in the world but New York and the whole entire East Coast need to stand and rise up again in Hip Hop

[@c.g.c.7735]

50 cent is the Heath Ledger Joker and the Tony Soprano of Hip Hop. It's the classic anti-hero story. That's why I love 50. He was the utlltimate super Villian. Hands down top 5 imo.

[@learnandteach7371]

Max b Fred the godson Stack bundles Roc Marciano plus many more never blew,, never got radio play by New York radios that's why ny stopped getting love

[@D.J.52]

We need the Wu-Tang Clan more than ever now days man

[@adm_90]

In all honesty, I don’t think the change of sound in Hip Hop is directly related with New York “falling off” as they say. It’s just that a new sound was developed since the mid 90s in the south and it became the wave. IMO it’s because not only is something new but also people can relate more to that sound. Plus the fact that it’s something that can be transformed into Pop music easily. It’s more of a melodic sound and that makes it easier to be shaped. Personally I think that even with NY’s Hip Hop scene being on the top of the game, this change would have happened anyway. Plus I don’t believe 1 or 2 radios have the power to influence that many people in the times of the internet even in the early 2000s.

[@comebackmechanics]

Pure facts the internet has more power heck look at the early 2010s drill

[@Messiah_Black]

It was a combo of lack of comradery & commercialism. Everybody wanted to be king, and refused to help put new artists on. Then the “lyricism” became formulated & one dimensional. They dumbed down they’re whole style for radio hits & suburban audiences.

[@joelbeltran4437]

Man I guess we forgot that around 2012 Joey badass and the pro era crew popped in the scene with the hardest rhymes to have been spit in the last 10 years plus not to mention action Bronson the underachievers Flatbush zombies

[@plopplop6805]

Did anyone mention Lil Wayne? He did exist and was everywhere. Lyrically was at the top from 2005 to AT LEAST 2014 IN THE WORLD....... The South just had that sound and popularity. It was their time. Its hard to beat out the Ludacris's of Hip hop, the T.I's, and the Gucci's of the south.. Yall act like Wayne wasn't real... Who lyrically was on par with him during that time period and was on every damn song?? They pioneered putting out mixtapes online.. That was actually a thing at one point.. Yall smoking...

[@logansundberg6124]

Need to talk about ASAP Rocky’s influence more and Joey badass

[@aztecza1368]

Pop was gonna take NY to another level. Rip woo! Salute! 💫

[@ReverendWin-id9gp]

NYC gave 69 too much props

[@WuvPain]

Sleepy am sheff g are some of my favorite Rappers from the last 2 years and imo some of the best rn

[@muhddanish8311]

Imagine if Pop Smoke still alive....

[@bittercamari]

I get sad about his death like everyday tbh

[@andrewx2047]

Bruh barely anybody knew who he was, before his death. Go look at his numbers

[@CubensisEnjoyer]

@@andrewx2047 Numbers only tell one story. Dude's career was going up so fast right before he was killed. It really felt like everyone around me in TX was starting to know who he was.

[@andrewx2047]

@@CubensisEnjoyer bro who even cares about tx it’s all about West Coast! In what year would you say this was?

[@staxx2353]

@@andrewx2047 he had big numbers before he died goofy. Pop was already doing shows overseas and was working and linking with the big main artist at that time

[@mickroyster6442]

I don't think New York will get their title from the 90's back. The south ain't letting that shit go. Not only was the south's rise to fame based all off of working to get it and running into the spotlight after Tupac and Biggie were out, the south was unified in a way New York, not even LA ever saw. The south is a connection of Atlanta, Memphis, Houston, Miami, New Orleans, it's too big and too unified to give it up.

[@bananakin94]

Kanye beating 50 Cent in the albums race ushered in a new era of hip hop. People wanted something different. Kanye's style and approach created a demand for more creative and adventurous sounds. Something that strayed away from the tropes of Gangster Rap; something more vulnerable and relatable. Hip Hop simply evolved past its gritty street roots, as the genre became more palatable and branched out into other demographics like Suburban America. But NY just did not adapt are started lagging behind. NY was too attached to its rough and rugged identity. Still to this day, NYers still see their city as a cold and rugged place and it is. So really, it was just a matter of time that NY lost its relevance in hip hop. No one can stay at the top forever. Gangster rap/Street rap has made a comeback of sorts but, still a lot of the relevant acts are hailing from the south. Atlanta rose to the occasion and offered a new sound that was fresh and is still dominating the airwaves today.

[@calebhenderson6507]

Right the people made it clear with that message when they choose. It was a huge turning point for 50s sells and his music career and even other artist

[@JJHaggy]

It’s good to see the New York drill scene in such a healthy position..even if it’s all influenced by UK drill.. ☕️ 🐸

[@ruggerREL]

I thought pop smoke was British for like 2 months no lie

[@heyah1447]

@@ruggerREL fr, I thought Pop Smoke, Sheff G and Sleepy Hallow were British

[@henryjohnson7083]

But yet none of y’all popped

[@SixLowa]

NY shows love to all types of rap but out of state we don't get alota love

[@yahshuayoungeenthenewwave6445]

Facts they hate ny rap