“Hippie” aesthetic or Romani appropriation?

[@florida.florian]

This is why I always recommend buying from Romani, Indigenous and other ethnic designers instead of a misappropriated mismatch of different cultures that doesn’t even match what the “hippie” lifestyle is supposed to stand for in the first place. And for all the “wear what you want” people, fine, but don’t claim that you care about marginalized people and are anti-capitalist, anti-racist, and all the other things hippies claim to be, it’s important to hold yourself up to your own standards.

[@gamingoutlaws9765]

Hi I saw your Nightwing vid Ik it random to bring up but I was wondering who would you cast as Nightwing that is Romani if you had a specific actor in mind?

[@mr.mystery9338]

Felicitări! Să mai faci asemenea videoclipuri. Lupta romilor, negrilor, şi minorităților în general dar şi a muncitorilor în ansamblu va schimba lumea în bine! Mult succes din România!

[@pumamanta1771]

Thank you Florian! The public needs more education on how cultural appropriation also impacts the people and the cultural importance.

[@autumnhomer9786]

🎀I brought clothes like this from a lady in the market many years ago to wear to my dance lessons. I practiced belly dancing, It never occurred to me that she might be Roma. I just thought that she was a lady with darker features, like her hair was quite dark, almost black and her features were different from some of the white Europeans around me but I always assumed she was European. We went there at least twice a month my family and I and my Grandmother always brought things from her.🎀

[@picachugirl2036]

Ill never claim to be anticapitalist, but I do want more socialist policies in the US. But I do have questions, cause im admittedly ignorant as heck. Did romani face the same kind of discrimination in the USA, as they did in Europe? Or was it a Europe issue?

[@CT8-1-0-8]

Hey, as someone who is Irish, whose people have been murdered, discriminated against, and enslaved, if you are not Irish but want to adorn yourself with Celtic attire, go ahead. I would be honoured for people to love my culture rather than fear it. Even if you don’t know what you’re wearing, no problem. It still makes me happy to see that my culture lives on in any way, shape or form.

[@theboujieproletariat]

I want to add some more info if it's ok- I studied fashion history. Originally in the 60s and 70s this movement wasnt called hippy, hippy was something people used to say to mock them and was almost a slur. They were also called "freaks". They were not a fashion movement at all, they were people who travelled around many countries and used to find things on their travels, obviously it wasnt possibly to carry a suitcase when travelling mostly around the world in van, hitchhiking etc so they would wear it. They would travel either from Western Europe to India and north africa, or USA to south america. At the time it wasnt usually plane travel like we do now, so they would exchange things from home with local people. After some of them began returning home, an aesthetic was born. At home, they were heavily involved in politics especially civil rights movements (in the UK these guys protested the forced housing of travellers and romani community, they were aware of oppressive govt action and tried to help, some went to jail). Long story short- original hippies obtained their look by just travelling and swapping their western stuff with locals, later on it became a "fashion statement" and people just bought random stuff that looked foreign and wore it 🤷🏻‍♀️ I guess the original hippies are all in their late 70s 80s now! And those guys were really counter culture as opposed to people who do it for fashion.. store bought fashion can never truly be anti capitalist. And thats where the appropriating comes in. The current fashion like the kids in the photo you shared probably have no idea of the history of where their clothes come from, and how anti-hippy it is to buy them from a store. Im just guessing but I imagine the closest thing to a hippy nowadays would be the kind of person who doesnt travel on planes because of global warming and protests about fast fashion garment factory conditions, not ones who wear the stuff. Its a shame how good things end up sometimes, and its great that you make these videos that hopefully change peoples minds before the next time they go shopping for party clothes.

[@user-ov4wr5yu4r]

You are correct. We liked various ethnic clothes and back home we wore fabrics sourced directly from India. Also, Bohemian actually referred to the Netherlands originally. It goes much farther back.

[@scribblecloud]

i mean.. they probably thought it just looked nice, its not that deep, its just clothes

[@Nat-fn4ou]

What's interesting. I juggle and recently interacted more with other jugglers and artists (like hoop artists or body contortion and so on). This way of style is very common in the community, together with walking barfoot, a very left mindset, a tendency for marihuana and oftentimes dread locks even if one isn't black. All I've talked to so far are very openminded and easygoing. Many also like to wander around, having been part of various shows and simply juggling on the streets etc. I really would like to know what you think about all this! Since they don't buy their clothes to be cool but really as a way to express themselves and because the clothes are associated with peace, individuality and artisty. Many probably bought from different places of the world. They seem to hold the example of the first hippies quite well it seems to me

[@DizzyFoShizzy]

If what you say is true, why is it a problem at all?

[@Alex_Is_Not_Here]

​@@scribblecloud Get ur own ,,nice" looking clothes, do not mainstream opressed/shadowed cultures as white agenda

[@Tullahgit]

I really appreciate your commentary. As an African American I never really considered the hippy aesthetic as problematic (outside of some of the most violent people I know claiming to be "hippies" lol) but your posts really have me double checking myself. And your history is really interesting to learn about!

[@osonhouston]

As a black person, it reinforces that the struggle is universal.

[@sorayatorchic]

You must hate the “a lil hippie a lil hood” also.

[@The_king567]

Hippies are just closeted assholes

[@prettypuff1]

🙌🏿 I’m

[@Tullahgit]

@saranatari3427 Me? No I never said I hated anything.

[@prismarinestars7471]

Wearing clothing that is merely vaguely similar to clothing styles from *several* other cultures (not even one specific culture!) should not be considered bad or disrespectful.

[@jackyjew8607]

It's really hard to pick up on sarcasm whens you're just reading words on the internet.

[@rn6345]

Hippie counterculture was a movement in its own right, with its own ideas and philosophies. Yes, they got inspired from different ethnic dresses, but they weren't cosplaying Romani people or claiming they were Romani, so I don't see the appropriation and how this is offensive. It's great to educate people in telling them that the "free-willed gypsy" image is a stereotype that has nothing to do with Romani culture (which is nowhere as "free" as some people think, in fact they are extremely conservative, much more so than hippies), but telling people how to dress or not to dress and shouting "cultural appropriation" at everything isn't helping.

[@kishinumaayumi]

I think it's important to remember that 1. Florian is an actual rom , he has the right to call put what he sees inappropriate when his culture is involved. 2. Similar to p much every whitewashing/cultural appropriation instance, the culture was used and made to serve the bourgeoisie. It was repackaged to be "bohemian", effectively erasing the culture that it stemmed from. 3. They want the visuals yet the people whom the visuals belong to are still marked as "undesirables", dirty, poor, immoral, over sexualised etc... 4. Florian isnt saying never wear anything similar to this, but call it what it is. And also if you want to have the "bohemian" look, you can, just support Romani creators / fashion designersbwhen you do it ♡♡♡

[@jediptjedipt7594]

​@@kishinumaayumiBruh, hippies are hippies, there is not a snowballs chance in hell they did this maliciously. Start dealing with actual racism.

[@cosmicwinters]

​@@kishinumaayumi 1. Of course he does. And everyone else has the right to call him out when his take is off.

[@coconutmilkhoney]

⁠@@jediptjedipt7594 The man who was arguably the most famous hippie literally looked forward to a race war. Why are we acting like hippies and racism are mutually exclusive?

[@linus6718]

​@@kishinumaayumi Being any color doesn't give you a right to demand what other people can wear or not

[@dhoffman4955]

Thanks to your videos, I am realizing that my attraction to Romani style probably stems from my immersion in Spanish culture as a child. I was unaware of the Romani influence in Spain and the Americas.

[@ricanredru4760]

Flamenco is really music mostly done by Spanish gypsies AKA Gitanos

[@babymoon7624]

Culture is meant to be shared and appreciated, people that choose to wear certain clothing and jewelry pieces do it out of appreciation because they think they are beautiful. I can understand it’s different if someone wears something in an offensive manor or purposely as a costume and deliberately mocks said culture but most people don’t do that when they wear something from another culture.

[@kalishiva18]

Yea like the na zi symbol is close to another symbol. And people freak out. Another culture had it first, na zi took over to where it's at today.

[@alexella9689]

You don't really get to decide for someone else though whats offensive and whats not, ecspecially if its not your culture.

[@ChestersonJack]

And as someone fascinated by the United States counterculture movements, they’ve often been ridden with appropriated fashions, as well as appreciated ones, but the hippies in particular are so strange. There are so many fashions attributed to “hippies” that in reality either belong to an ethnic minority group or originated in an entirely separate counterculture (beatniks, for instance). Tbh I think the most definitive “hippie” fashion is just being naked, as one of their defining tenants is the “free love” movement. I love your videos, and it always warms the heart to finally see credit where it’s due.

[@Updog89]

@icantthinkofaname1677​⁠Not really- many white boomers who formerly or currently identify as hippies just like to paint themselves as such. My father in law is a civil rights historian and was a kid during that time, and he says that while there was a fair amount of overlap in the hippie, Vietnam protest and Civil Rights movements, ultimately they have separate “origin stories”. The Civil Rights movements has deep roots older than America itself. The first wave of enslaved Africans arguably were the grandparents of the 1960s civil rights movements because they set the first layer of organized resistance against racialized oppression that their descendants built on for generations. There have also always been the occasional white abolitionist or resistance fighter allied to those movements, but hippies aren’t really descended from them literally or ideologically. The truth is that the Vietnam war and feminist movement were bigger factors in crystallizing the hippie ethos of “equality and peace” amongst the majority of white Americans. Young people in general were already feeling oppressed by how their parents- who survived WW2- raised them. It was a very conventional way of raising kids, and standing out was stifled. Then the Vietnam War emerged, and young men didn’t want to die or kill in Vietnam for no good reason. And with the advent of better education for women, birth control, and decent wages the women didn’t want to be stepford wives trapped in oppressive gender roles like their mothers in the 50s. The hippie movement obviously overlapped a lot with the Civil Rights one, but in general white hippies didn’t care as much about black oppression as they did about their own. It wasn’t the root of why they were hippies. But many were happy to paint themselves as advocates for racial Justice all the same.

[@TenderNoodle]

As someone who is half Indian this aesthetic along with the “ Coachella/festival” look is also the bane of my and my Indian mother’s existence lol. The blatant misuse of Indian religion, cultural practices and fashion is so disgusting and generally unappealing. Not to mention the way a lot of white hippies who visit India talk about Indian people, either characterizing them as “spiritual” and exotic or gross and criminal.

[@Updog89]

@@HiHi-Duh I never said there weren’t black and minority hippies? Work on your reading comprehension.

[@beansontoasti316]

I had no idea… I’m glad that there’s information available to learn about it and be more aware now

[@LaylaSowards]

All races appropriate from lots of different cultures. Instead of it being 'appropriating' it should be appreciating, shared and celebrated. Everyone does it, from clothing, decor, food, music, religion, etc. Live and let live and love, long as nobody causes any harm. I'm an American Romanichel raised in the south. That doesn't mean I need to wear stereotypical southern attire or decorate my home with roosters and live off of soupbeans and cornbread. If a stranger walked into my home and all the pics were covered, they wouldn't have a clue what race or culture I come from. I love all kinds of different things from different countries, cultures, religions and so on ❤️ We shouldn't be so divided.

[@moon.jelly.27]

This deserves so much more recognition 💕

[@LaylaSowards]

@@quinn9074 I AM ROMANICHEL, did you miss that? I also said SHOULD BE APPRECIATED. So you fully believe that when a non-black person wants braids they've got to travel to Africa to get them? Idk about you but most people couldn't afford to do that, especially in this economic climate (in America anyway). Why couldn't they go to a black stylist for braids/locs and keep it in their community? LEARN FROM the people IN THEIR community. Idk if you were just in a bad mood when you said all that but my original comment was about love, not arguing. You don't like what I said, that's fine. But you're telling a Romany woman how oppressed Romani people are. I don't argue with anybody on the internet, seems like you've already got your mind made up about me and/or what I said and that's fine, we can agree to disagree. However I do appreciate you learning about Romani ways ❤️

[@donteattheferret]

Romani people: Some of us had been forced to stay on the roads, and are facing discrimination all the time! At least our clothes are beautiful... 😢 'Hippies': omg such free willed people! #aesthetic you guys!

[@sweetiemageetie7805]

For sharing education purposes: The term "hippy" came to be in the USA around the time that the opiate problem was breaking out, in the 60s and 70s. At first a "hippy" was a big ass bruise on the hip, due to laying on a hard surface for so long after having a little toke of heroin or whatever drug. It had nothing to do with Romani culture.

[@sweetiemageetie7805]

@@romarose okay, but if the term originated with the Chinese then it would be IN CHINESE. thank you for your input, though it still feels you're trying to make it a Romani victimhood.

[@lovepuppy4627]

​@@sweetiemageetie7805do you think that Chinese immigrants didn't learn a little english?

[@sweetiemageetie7805]

@@lovepuppy4627 no. I don't even think they were immigrants. I'm saying people of China who live in China and speak Chinese

[@quit3118]

My mom wants me to get into the bohemian style I wanted to get into alt/grunge/earth grunge

[@myheartismadeofstars]

I confess that this kinda how I describe my fashion sense, eclectic, flowy, florals and patches, scarves, layers, loose jewelry, stuff like that. And I know it's origin as appropriation (though didn't know bohemianism was specifically a romanticism and appropriation of Romani culture and little to do with the region of Bohemia)...but it's hard when it genuinely is a beautiful fashion (and super comfortable and easy for me to deal with with my sensory issues) and no one should be looked down upon for dressing in their traditional style. I try to buy as much from thrift stores as I can to avoid giving money to people appropriating cultures who are already discriminated against (I'd happily buy from actual people of those cultures but most of them tend to be expensive, which is completely understandable! They need to make back the investment of time and money and be able to support themselvesl!! But as someone living at the poverty line it makes it hard)

[@savannah160]

As long as you don't buy clothes that look exactly like the kids in the photo and do not buy clothes like that in big corporations, then it's all good. If you still want a style similar to it but much better, then buy clothes from the people they stole it from.

[@pvp6077]

I totally get that, there's a lot of styles I really love, but don't want to appropriate. Things I grew up doing and had to learn to stop. Things that I had to learn more respectful versions of. It's all good as long as you're being mindful and trying to be better, and not continuing harmful stereotypes. Like, there were a lot of hippies who started wearing afros "in solidarity" while doing activism. Who then cut their hair to look like "respectable adults" when they were ready to move on and get those paychecks. So for years after, black people wearing afros was 100% associated with criminal behaviour. Same way dreadlocks have come to be associated with dirtiness. Because dirty white people act dirty while wearing it, then cut them off when they want to change styles and be accepted by conservative society. Black people literally can't even let our hair grow out of our heads because a bunch of people appropriated our hairstyles and associated them with counter-culture behaviour. Like what is the "Mohawk" hairstyle associated with? Traditional First Nations ceremonies? Nah. White kids with spiked collars and electric guitars. But no one asked them to stop wearing their hair shaved at the sides, they just call it a cockscomb or rooster comb hair now. Because punks are actually more caring and empathetic than most groups when it comes to actually being supportive. Just saying. I love the aesthetic, and he doesn't say not to wear it, but to be mindful and learn our history before accidentally repeating the harm caused by others doing the dame things in the past.

[@quinn9074]

As long as you recognise the origins of a style I’m sure it’s fine ❤ so don’t worry. For example I’m Somali, if anyone wanted to wear a Dirac (cultural dress) because they think it looks pretty I would let them if they just know WHERE it comes from. (To avoid it being white washed and changed)

[@wickjezek5093]

Me- an American Romani, wearing "bohemian clothes" constantly getting asked "Where are you from?" 😅

[@NC-dw1ir]

dang. I get asked where I'm from too, because of my accent. (I and my parents were born in america so I don't know what they mean by accent) a man told me I sound like I'm from 'an island somewhere'. I would've taken offense but then a Hispanic woman agreed with him, so now I'm like, huh?

[@mynamecausesconfusion9829]

Most of Americans can't afford to buy clothing from private small sellers- Romani or not. Capitalism wins in the US. I just don't see the blame on the individual when our economy has been very intricately designed to only allow a small percentage of small businesses to thrive.

[@kaeya8674]

This

[@anasdomain9994]

How is bringing awareness to an issue blaming the individual? That’s literally the point, and that’s why we need to spread awareness on the issue so that we can change it.

[@mynamecausesconfusion9829]

@@anasdomain9994 then he should've focused on the brands instead of the models . He was specific to those who wear the clothes similar to his culture should ONLY buy them from Romani. Implying that if I do buy them from a retailer I am a bad person. That's not the case. Be mad at the Producer, not the consumer.

[@kgty1295]

Saving money and buying quality pieces that will last a lifetime will always be better than buying a lot of cheap in bulk

[@mynamecausesconfusion9829]

@@kgty1295 I agree? But I stand by my statement that people can't always afford to wait for the best quality. Sometimes you need to just buy what's readily available. This goes for clothing, too. Like I said, be mad at the producers if you're going to be mad at all.

[@retro.raider]

I just like maxi skirts

[@madihaqayyum224]

Same..Pakistani here..I love maxi skirts

[@levelfirdaus]

That's fine. Just be aware of where your clothes, esp., maxi skirts, come from.

[@retro.raider]

@@levelfirdaus yes thats very important. I do try to source responsibly

[@rockstarz5541]

@@levelfirdauswhy 😭 tf its clothes

[@levelfirdaus]

@@rockstarz5541 your ignorance is the reason why bigotry exists. It's neve just clothes for most people...let alone all people. Acknowledging where clothes origin come from, who it belongs to, etc. Connects ones understanding to the community, people, culture, heritage and identity. In addition to the history it's associated it with. To say "it's clothes", undermines it all. Esp., considering the fact, that racism, exploitation of said community, oppression, etc. STILL exists. Esp., for the Roma Community, it's unfair to have this mentality. Do better.

[@moondoll]

Maybe I'm different, but get SO happy seeing other women dress "boho" more today, as I have my entire life. It makes me feel good to be appreciated through someone else's style. I was bullied as a kid for being Romanichal, so for me in a weird way it's lovely to see bits of our culture being enjoyed. BUT! What really grinds my gears is hearing others say "I have the soul/heart of a Gypsy" 🙄 🙄

[@moondoll]

@romarose Ohhh I know! 🙄🙄🙄 It deeply irritates me to the very core of my being. My grandmother always told me stories from her life before and after coming to America, and it's heartbreaking. There is so much more depth to our culture, our very essence, than "heart of a Gypsy" 😑

[@moondoll]

@romarose Facts🙏🏻 Thank you for the replies, it's nice to chit chat with someone who gets it. Hope you have a great day!

[@biguattipoptropica]

1910s and 1920s clothing (for the 20s, especially accessories) also seem to heavily appropriate from Romani and Black American fashion. I know fashion history is a more complex topic, but I’d love to hear your thoughts, as most fashion historians tend to gloss over it.

[@elvingearmasterirma7241]

Yea... As much as I love fashion history, it often feels like the history of theft and racism in high fashion is ignored or glossed over. Even music historian are more candid about it

[@biguattipoptropica]

@@elvingearmasterirma7241 yeah, I appreciate the push to fund more fashion history around the world (which they already should’ve been doing), but they shouldn’t ignore the awful histories behind European and North American fashions (even if we still wear them). It would go a long way to promote vintage fashion, not vintage values in both academia and hobbyist spaces. Plus, established costumers and historians could do more to bring people behind the fashions to make them, for purchase or study. There’s just a lot of improvements that can be made! I think talking about it is the first step. I’m glad other people have noticed this too.

[@biguattipoptropica]

@@romarose I apologize but I’ve seen extant fashion from the time period as well earlier Romani clothes. I was referring to the juliet cap veil (although there were similar millinery versions). There’s an unmistakable influence carried over from the 1910s. I don’t want to speak over you, so I’ll end it here.

[@biguattipoptropica]

@@romarose Researching the origins of fashion and giving the real creators their appropriate credit and financial compensation is the right thing to do. That should be the point of academia and is one of my main concerns in pointing it out. My other main concern is allowing cultures to take credit for their innovations no matter the circumstances, so they can determine their own boundaries with outsiders. You are free to disagree, but I hope you will reconsider discouraging the discussion and research in the future.

[@biguattipoptropica]

@@romarose I’ve had a rough week and it sounds like you have too. I apologize that it came off that way. It’s clearly my mistake. I genuinely hope you have a wonderful day and an amazing summer.

[@SprigPlantar3728]

As a romanian whos part gypsy and loves the hippy aesthetic, just let people wear what they want as long as they dont mean to wear it with bad intentions.

[@CareyLohannya]

THANK YOU!

[@saoirse_miller]

but they are bad-intentioned.

[@mitsuba8026]

@@saoirse_miller a genuine question but how are they being bad intentioned? I think most of them dont know and aren’t trying to be hurtful, but I could definitely be wrong so I just wanna know

[@yeoldetort]

⁠@@saoirse_milleras someone who dresses this way how in any way am I clearly being bad intentioned. Wearing comfortable clothing that you as a person find cute is not having bad intentions it’s just wanting to look cute and feel good about yourself

[@pvp6077]

Y'all don't take advice from people who use slurs unironically. If you were accepted by your community you would **be** Romani, not talking about mixed this and that whatever. You would be accepted as Romani. Period. That said, even black people don't have a right to give anyone an n-word pass, like hell some rando in a comment section has the right to speak over actual Romani people. End of story. It's not even your struggle, you dont get to elect yourself spokesperson for someone else's group. You are part of the problem.

[@yakubduncan9019]

I think one thing that doesn't get talked about enough is that using the iconography of a marginalised group as fashion shorthand for "countercultural/nonconformist/wild-and-free" often contributes to that marginalisation. A good example of this being dreads. A lot of the time (though not all), white people wear dreads to signify that they are 'street' 'gangsta' or otherwise 'outside the system,' which are meanings that have been put upon dreads by white society. These imposed meanings are the reasons that black people are expected to abandon the most practical hairstyles to look 'professional' at work (i.e. not look 'street' or 'gangsta'). In the same way, I'd imagine its association with hippies and other counterculture movements contributes to the kind of profiling that Romani traditional garb attracts.

[@tomseppe6406]

Dreads form naturally on white people their hair as well. We don’t own dreads. I think it’s important to remember who is doing the marginalizing/oppressing, bc in my experience the type of white people wearing dreads aren’t the same people who are doing this, and while yes I agree they don’t help stereotypes as they are often unclean, it’s not their fault that white society has tried to punish us for wearing our natural hair, and they themselves tend to be accepting people. I think coopting and esp cheapening aesthetics is a wrong thing to do, but I don’t think hair is something any culture or group can claim, esp a hairstyle that forms naturally in many different types of hair

[@yakubduncan9019]

@@tomseppe6406 I think at the heart of it is the power dynamic. Whether they're creating that marginalisation or using the iconography of that marginalisation to signify non-conformity, the dominant group (in this case, white people) are creating meaning out of those people and signifiers associated with them, rather than deriving those people themselves. Ultimately if we get rid of that power dynamic, the harm of this imposed meanings goes away (though that's easier said than done).

[@damnianos2557]

​@@tomseppe6406no they do not. Their hair gets matted and stinks. Then it falls our

[@deedeedan8681]

Literally one of the best points Ive ever seen made in a comment section

[@yagirl177]

Just let me wear thrifted maxi skirts/ head scarves. 💀I love flowy vintage skirts and bags from the 60s-80s.

[@BebbaDubbs]

Omfg. This was me, as a child, in the '90s. It took me until adulthood to begin to understand appropriating vs appreciating. Great explanation of the movement!

[@molotochnik.i]

@hishenmathurin2844 This channel is a good example of people refusing to be happy because of what happened to their ancestors despite, they themself never experiencing any oppressions or racial profiling

[@rav0nn]

@@molotochnik.ithis. People are mad about things that happened hundreds of years ago, why are we so fixated on a past none of us experienced? Yes there was appropriation and racism, but as a society we have mostly eliminated that in a lot of places, yet they dig up the past actions of people who were not us and expect us to conform to them.

[@sanuic]

@@rav0nn unfortunately while it's not as prevalent in America (so I think) it is still a very current issue in Europe, where this guy is from

[@artvirgowich]

i mean it's good to know where the fashion you appreciate comes from, but is it really appropriation to wear clothing inspired by those romani women? me and my friend think it is not, it's just styles of people mixing and people wearing what they like

[@heroawesome8495]

Listen man, I just wanna dress in flowy clothes. I didn't sign up for this.

[@morg678]

He didn't sign up for this either. We all just gotta do ourbest to take care of each other and make the world a less harmful place

[@heroawesome8495]

@@morg678 right. Which is why I'm wearing my flowy clothes that fit well without lambasting anyone's culture.

[@yumidean578]

@@morg678 He didn't sign up for what?? Existing?? What are you even on about???? 💀

[@Theonetheoneonecunt]

@@yumidean578think abt it 🤷🏼‍♀️

[@Theonetheoneonecunt]

@@solidsr78 listen to the video, it’s appropriatation instead of appreciation.

[@aduheartlol]

I love how you discuss cultural appropriation all the time! As an Indian American, I often feel like the appropriation of our symbols and some cultural components keeps getting swept under the rug. Namastay in bed shirts? The 🕉 symbol? Chai tea? Naan bread? Lets not forget when the West "discovered" ashwagandha. I die a little inside every time I see companies like MUD/Watr or Goli omg

[@aduheartlol]

Like. Please take a moment to consider the child labor that went into making the "exotic" jhumka styled earrings that Target is selling you. You could instead be supporting Indian artisans and trades people

[@johnnyearp52]

You don't want people to go to Indian restaurants?

[@beckiejani7782]

The very worst appropriation occurred in Germany in the 30s. The word "Aryan" and the Swastika.

[@aduheartlol]

@@johnnyearp52 Indian restaurants with Indian owners, cooks, and people who really know about Indian culture involved in operations should get the attention they deserve.

[@johnnyearp52]

@@aduheartlol 👍

[@LAZURAYOFFICIAL]

why must you find "problematic" angles everywhere? The beauty of humanity is sharing our cultures and celebrating our expressions as individuals - as long as the intent behind it isn't derogatory

[@Ppppftt]

The intent behind it might not be derogatory, but when a corporation profits off the culture of a marginalised group without giving credit to it it's not the best look and it's understandable that people from said group are upset by it.

[@Shambhav-qf7od]

"Sharing cultures" is not the sane as wrongly appropriating them and not giving credit to the communities.

[@samtron5000]

@@Ppppftta lot of boho stuff is also made by people who just like to make stuff, not big corpos. Big corpos target everyone and everything though. You’re on a big corpo app right now watching this video they are making money off of. Using a phone or tablet or computer made by a big corpo or several different big corpos. Using internet from big corpo. Anyway if you’re Romani and you somehow ended up in the United States you’re extremely privileged. Maybe you should make Romani stuff, sell it and give all the proceeds back to the Romani people

[@samtron5000]

@@Shambhav-qf7odyou should very very specifically and explicitly explain what the difference is in this situation Because I have known several people both in the U.S. and Japan who love this style and they will often say “oh my bag is from goa” or “this skirt is blah blah” They wear it because they admire those countries

[@theliosewell896]

​@samtron5000 a lot of Romani ended up in the US via slavery. what luck 😒

[@Sean-dl8ym]

I cannot for the life of me fathom why this is harmful. Are you insinuating if hippies stopped dressing like this, romani people would no longer be racially profiled?

[@soupbird8081]

I cant answer the first question, frankly it shoild be common sense but I wont start there. But the second thjng, it doesnt take one step in the right direction to fix bigotry, but you DO need to start doing the right things to get there. Think broader.

[@kalishiva18]

I believe he's trying to put out there. That the style we see "hippie " which is am actual art piece. And that the inspiration came from romani people. How cool is that. When I weat something native, because of my husband. I learn a small history behind it. "Why do people do this. Where did it come from" really opened my eyes on a whole new way.

[@theGhostSteward]

I think the biggest problem with that Is fast fashion and how those brands destroy the market for artisans/crafts people from those communities. (There is a good video from a art historian trying to re-create the "peacock dress" and she talks about the last remaining embroiders from India and how the the industrial revolution + fast fashion almost extinct the craft while also enslaved a lot of people from those communities)

[@justems7874]

girl people just like the way it looks.

[@Beelzineff]

notice how he doesnt explain HOW this is appropriation just puts it out there. like ik this is all a part of his online presence but... u cannot be saying wearing long skirts is appropriation like there is not enough info here. also in the vein of appropriating native american dress.... as long as ur not wearing a headdress i dont see how its a big deal many native americans artisans make a living selling their apparel to non natives but whatever ig.

[@mauthe3054]

The appropriation comes from not giving credit and big corporations rebranding the clothing. Then you have racists wearing clothes from a culture they are racist to. Buying from native sellers and wearing their jewerly or clothes is different from buying native "inspired" clothes from fast fashion places. Appropriation is when it's only ever ok if anyone but actual natives can partake in their culture without being discriminated against. Wearing it and knowing the history and acknowledging it is OK. But to pretend that it's not a big deal and "who cares" is just saying "hey this doesn't affect me negatively, so it must not be a real issue". It's like wearing native jewerly and not giving a flying duck about native people. It's ass behavior

[@bellaishungry]

why can’t people wear what they want?? as long as their not doing it to make fun of a certain group of people, why is it so wrong?

[@samiam2088]

I’ll admit I’m guilty of wearing hippy clothing without thinking of where the aesthetic originates. I live in the Middle East and get all my clothes secondhand, but generally these looser clothing is more for functionality when it’s incredibly hot.

[@se7ente3n]

why are you acting like it’s a crime to wear what you want? it’s not illegal to dress how you want

[@thatfrogboi4477]

@@se7ente3n Because ppl tell them to feel guilty😔

[@xxxmaysilssss690]

Bruh the unnecessary guilt is cringe-inducing. Stop pandering to whiny crybabies on the internet and wear what you want

[@rodrigocenteno2729]

What is your solution to this “problem” because pointing it out does nothing to change things as they are, it’s only a way of venting and shaming people for wearing clothes that are not exclusively from their cultural or ethnic background, which if you ask me, sounds a little segregationist

[@chickensandwich1432]

I guess Asians can’t wear cowboy hats 🤷‍♀️it’s appropriation.

[@noctuabird]

there a diffrent dynamic here surrounding cultural appropriation of the maginalized by thr privledged

[@pvp6077]

They were explicitly invited to wear them. Just like they've been explicitly invited to wear saree. Yet somehow that trend hasn't exploded.

[@impendingeuphoria8802]

I mean that is what fashion has done for centuries. Many designers are inspired from other cultures. Its akin to acting like languages that change through time depending on location, culture, etc are a bad thing. Many languages are a mixture of others. So a fashion movement was more negative for the romani ppl? Is there sources or proof of this further hurting the romani culture?

[@impendingeuphoria8802]

@@Idontknowwhattoputhere-fd4ou is this a common thing in europe? do romanis get picked on for their clothing over there? ive never met a romani person in america, but i defintely wouldnt care what they wear. I feel bad for them if europeans are treating them so poorly. I guess they dont have laws against that like in the usa.

[@TheBlackLotus]

Punks are nice people pretending to be bad Hippies are bad people pretending to be good

[@AleshaBales]

I came to comment this!!

[@townieofthenorth]

@@AleshaBalessounds like you’re brainwashed

[@gay_0possum]

Definitely, the hippie sub-culture has let racism, homophobia, transphobia and so much more slip under the radar. Punk isn't perfect, but you cannot objectively be punk if you don't have the punk beliefs which are anti capitalism, racism, homophobia plus pro feminism and equality

[@poolhalljunkie9]

As someone who has considered themselves punk for around 25 yrs I can absolutely say I agree. Don't get it twisted though punks can be very violent but not generally without good cause.

[@cherryjumpropequeen]

Dude you're reaching...stop building your brand off of being mad. So what, STYLE isn't allowed?

[@seanceknowles2911]

Because I love Bohemian and Hippie fashion that i started to learn about Romani culture/ fashion and the Roma people❤ Thank you for educating us all and I’m so glad I found your channel 😊

[@wantabangchan]

I dont understand why people can't live their lives and dress how they want, like if they're just wearing the clothes and still being themselves then why do people care?

[@GhostW1thTheMost]

Read the top comment. He doesnt care that people who arent romani are wearing it, he cares thar theyre selling it. Its basically a halloween costume with how mass produced it is.

[@goose8447]

​@@GhostW1thTheMostso you can wear it but you have to make it? or should they buy it but from people who make few of them? if a lot of people like it there will be someone who will provide the appropriate amount and vice versa

[@goose8447]

​@@GhostW1thTheMost costumes are far less produced than everyday clothes btw

[@dovee1]

​@@goose8447it's more about giving back to the culture, the people, that birthed the style of clothes you wear - especially considering the amount of times others have punched down on them and villified them. Oftentimes, you'll find that, given the opportunity to be recognised and uplifted, creators who are a part of these cultures can create amazing and authentic work. Better than random products mass-produced in the interests of profit by somebody who is ignorant on the origins of the clothes they're making.

[@GhostW1thTheMost]

@@goose8447no, the point is youre supposed to be it from people who's culture it's from.

[@pumamanta1771]

Unrelated but your skin and eyes are so stunning 😅

[@donteattheferret]

Ikr he glowing

[@i_am_very_very_confused]

Frr

[@ericsalinas98]

I would hate to live life walking on eggshells.

[@earthwicca8868]

So glad you mentioned that. Feels like that simply existing and doing literally anything is criminalized now because of TikTok kids.

[@worm4238]

@@earthwicca8868not necessarily, it’s just important to be conscious and understand the history of things

[@anasdomain9994]

Of course white people don’t have to worry about being racially profiled 🙄 poc do.

[@thesparks00]

you don't have to unless you're acting ignorant about something you're already aware of.

[@HerbBrid3]

Do you feel like you’re walking on eggshells around minorities in fear you’ll offend them? You should reflect on that.

[@Janine.Najarian]

I recently moved out to Olympia Washington and there's a smoke called shop "g word greens" ugh friggin pacnw never change 🙄

[@donteattheferret]

A literal slur on the shop name istg those people probably have never met Roma before

[@zkkitty2436]

The Pacific Northwest is a nightmare jfc

[@TemujinMSM]

I live in Olympia too and also noticed that store lol.

[@TemujinMSM]

@@donteattheferret Probably not though there's relatively a lot of Roma in the Pacific Northwest states.

[@Rin22730]

​@@donteattheferretyeah i wouldn't want to meet them either 🤣

[@DystoDreamer]

These videos just make ignorant ppl who have no life mad and create further division in humanity. Stop putting humans in culture boxes and demanding we segregate! We belong to one another, we are brothers and sisters on this planet ffs.

[@bearcat0]

This guy gets it!^

[@coeurdemiel1070]

Cultural appropriation is a scam, culture has always and will always be shared especially in a world where everything travels the globe at lightspeed. LET PEOPLE DRESS HOWEVER THEY WANT. (PS: I usually like your content and appreciate your fight but cultural appropriation is non sense)

[@shilohisatransformer3340]

A girl i knew who was rich and white dressed like this and also claimed to be anti capitalist performatively refusing to even recognize where her entire wardrobe derives from. :/

[@himmelsnews3656]

She can't be rich and anti capitalistic at the same time

[@BeautifulMutant]

How can you be wealthy and anti-capitalist? Make that make sense.

[@shilohisatransformer3340]

@@BeautifulMutant which is exactly why i said she “claimed” to be 🤨

[@HandyDandy6]

​@himmelsnews3656 so frederick engals wasn't an anti capitalist? His family was relatively wealthy and he's credited with being one of the founders of socialism as an idea. I think its more how you make your money rather than how much you have

[@Rin22730]

​@@HandyDandy6him and Marx were rich and lived with their parents. Lazy bufoons always want to blame someone else for their misfortunes.

[@MsBELLE7]

As someone within the EDM scene most people wear this style because its beautiful, freeing (the patterns, colors and designs) and they make you feel happy. Though most people i know buy these items from local boutiques rather than from big stores. Theres just a different vibe when someone actually made the clothes. I personally dont think that anyone i know does it to dress up, many people wear those clothes all the time not just for festivals. Id like to think we are trying to bring some freedom and happiness to a culture whos clothes we love so much. Though im not part of the Romani culture so i suppose i cant really say how the appreciation rather than appropriation makes them feel.

[@Nat-fn4ou]

These clothes are also big in the circus artists community! For the same reasons you said

[@BM-fz9yc]

No one is allowed to wear plaid except for Scottish people

[@chastitybryant6120]

... your choosing to be ignorant but he didn't say don't wear it there is a thing called appropriation and if you don't choose to educate yourself fine

[@wheresthelambsauce8273]

​@@chastitybryant6120Americans always say "educate yourself" yet have such a narrow minded view on what culture really is.

[@Andromedacelestia21]

Well said! Lol

[@SandWichPersonHuman]

Im American and the whole “cultural appropriation “ thing gets annoying. Like some things are actual cultural appropriation but some are just wearing things from other cultures. Cultures should be spread and enjoyed by everyone!

[@kgty1295]

Well, it’s a good thing. Many Americans have Scottish roots. I’ll be wearing plenty of plaid this winter.

[@livisbetterthanu4820]

I don’t- I don’t think it’s that deep respectfully, like I do t think any Romani person is actually hurt when they see a hippy in the wild????

[@nennarouse7326]

As someone who is Native American( Chahta NOT Choctaw) I understand the never ending appropriation and rebranding of our culture. We stand together in this fight

[@OrNaurItsKat]

Okay, question for you if you don't mind sharing your thoughts, So I live in Oklahoma and while I'm not an indigenous person myself, I know a lot of people who are. My question is how do you feel about the phrase "five civilized tribes" used in American history classes to describe the indigenous nations that were quicker to establish economic trade with and/or assimilate into the white colonies. I feel like that phrase is incredibly insensitive to all the horrific aspects of colonialism that took place. I'm interested in your thoughts and if there's any movement from within your (or others if you happen to know) Nation to change "five civilized tribes" into something else or get rid of that school of thought altogether.

[@nennarouse7326]

@OrNaurItsKat That's a good question. I personally do not like the term, the reason my tribe was "civilized" was because we had structures similar to western societies like farms, school, and one leader, and a bunch of other things. Every tribe was different, but the "five" just had structures that's colonizers could recognize. I think the reason for the label should be taught.

[@S0m3B0z0OnTheInternet]

Thank you for spreading awareness about these “aesthetics” and how g***y is a slur since it’s so unfortunately normalized and so common to see in films, games, songs, etc. And for anyone wondering, no wearing head scarfs, maxi skirts, and bell sleeves are not cultural appropriation of Romani’s, Native American’s, or Middle easterns so long as it’s worn completely separately from those “aesthetic” styles. Like for example: I can imagine someone wearing a maxi skirt matched with a head scarf to give off a fairycore, cottagecore, or even grunge aesthetic meanwhile bell sleeves can be worn to fit that 70’s or beach aesthetic. So long as you aren’t ignorantly dressing as something offensive and culturally appropriating said clothing. (Heck, I don’t even see anything wrong with trying out different things from other cultures such as traditional clothing. So long as you do it with an open mind and actual information on said clothing’s historical background.)

[@S0m3B0z0OnTheInternet]

@@romarose​⁠Huh! That’s interesting, I never knew that! I definitely don’t have a problem with people who do dress in a sort of bohemian style but like I mentioned before, as long as they know the historical background behind it and aren’t ignorantly wearing clothes that originated from Romani culture but was highly appropriated despite all the hate Romani people faced and still do face for dressing in their own traditional clothes. (Otherwise known as “cultural appropriation”) So as long as they know the cultural background and are either buying said clothing style from Romani-owned stores or separating the cultural appropriation of traditional Romani clothes from what they’re wearing then I believe it’s completely fine. Like I mentioned before, there isn’t really anything wrong with wearing clothes or styling hair that comes from or is traditionally worn from other races so long as it’s done respectfully and not to mock or foolishly ignore the historical background of whatever you decide to wear that’s from a different race, ethnicity, culture, or even religion.

[@GraveyardMaiden]

Thanks for mentioning the difference between wearing similar styles and cultural appropriation. That said stuff like fairycore, cottagecore, and whismy goth takes inspiration from romanticized European history and fairytales with some modern twist to it. But cultural appropriation does drip in when people start to throw in other people's cultures all willy nilly because they think it looks pretty

[@GraveyardMaiden]

​@@romaroseJust small correction, European peasantry actually wore fashion cuts similar to the nobility and also would dye their clothes bright colors, while not as elaborate and decorative as the nobility they were not the constant shit covered people dressed in sacks and rags as the Victorian white men want us to believe

[@Densenugs]

Wearing flowers floral skirts and fabric? OK hahaha

[@angsilaw]

You lack critical thinking and analytical skills

[@millenniumquartz]

I’m pretty sure there’s far more to a “hippie” and “bohemian” aesthetic than just floral patterns. It’s styling, materials, and accessories, too. You are not appropriating a culture by wearing floral fabrics. Duh. That’s not what the video is about.

[@Densenugs]

@@angsilaw haha ok

[@MisstressMourtisha]

noboys controlling what i wear jesus this is rediculous

[@xx44661]

Honestly if certain groups don't want their cultural styles integrated into other cultures then they should live an isolationist lifestyle. In one of his previous videos he talks about Romani dishes, but most of the dishes he mentions are of Hungarian origin. But when other people, let's say French adapts their style it is appropriation. It is okay for them to take from other cultures and fail to give credit as long as it is "white" but on the other hand their culture should stay just that, theirs. Stop the double standard.

[@ftclud.-13yearsago53]

^^^this

[@haze154]

This, wearing some colourful clothes doesnt make you a bad person. This guy just wants attention

[@kewpiemayobaby]

This is facts. People wearing long, colorful patchwork skirts with a TANK TOP isn’t appropriating anybody’s culture. It’s absolute foolishness

[@Talidia02]

Yes right, so true

[@utente1489]

Same with gypys language it's at 60% loanwords from European language

[@laurenhatter6824]

I’m so glad I found these videos. I get so excited when a new one pops up on my feed, not because the content is particularly happy or uplifting, but because I get to learn more about a people that I have been told is either dead or dying out and isn’t worth learning about or respecting. I wish there were culture centers or events here that could more widely spread the information you do to teach people that their common actions have an origin, and that there is a reason to be more respectful and responsible when they partake in those actions.

[@fishy_mcnugget8303]

Can people just stfu why tf do we have to put rules on everything? Clothes, hair, skin, make-up. Literally everything. Life is too short. And who cares if these people have more or less money, or actually live the hippy aesthetic? That's just what they call their clothes. The same way I can call something emo and wear it even if it technically isnt

[@ealpacaf.7463]

Well that's the thing tho. Sub-cultures and "aesthetics" have orgins and a cultural history behind them. Knowing that historical context is HIGHLY important, and that is what the creator is saying. You're getting idiotically defensive for no reason and it shows.

[@noseriouslyimserious4073]

Oppression Olympics.

[@kaeya8674]

@vanessapetralito414i think its obvious dont wear those clothes. The more you are aware the less enjoyment you'll have

[@utente1489]

It's just online, in real life nobody give a shit😅

[@anasdomain9994]

Just say you’re white and never had to face racial profiling before 🙄. It’s literally just informing people where this style comes from. The cultures who created a style deserve to be acknowledged and prioritized. I had no idea hippie chic had anything to do with Romanians at all but now I know and can appreciate whenever I see this style. I even wanna do some research about it now to be more informed about the culture.

[@MikkoHere]

A lot of hippies went to India, especially after celebrities, like the Beatles, went there and popularized it. Indian clothing became hip, and was quite cheap. At least in the 60’s the fad helped to jumpstart the Indian export industry.

[@kittyblackwood5459]

I am so tired of this " cultural appropriation". Culture is meant to be shared, not horded and gatekept. If someone genuinely loves a culture and respectfully uses their at athetics there's no issue with it. I have supported everything you've come out with. I can't support this. I'm Native American and I don't care if someone uses Native dress or hair. It makes me feel proud that others love my culture as much as I do.

[@ealpacaf.7463]

Nobody is saying cultures cannot be shared. Cultural appropriation is taking attributes from a specific minority culture and using it INAPPROPRIATELY. One thing that is important is knowing WHERE the origins of so "aesthetic" came from and HOW it came to be and WHO are the people effected by it. The whole argument of "cultures are meant to be shared" is just bigoted nonsense from people who just want to do negative things with no repercussions. It should be noted that with cultural appropriation, there is a certain disrespect to it. Disrespect to the people, disrespect their culture and lively hood.

[@CierraJohnson-bh4mc]

What I'm so sick of is people like you not knowing the difference between cultural appropriation and cultural exchange or cultural appreciation. And this never-ending conservative nonsense of "cultures needing to be shared" justifies entitlement and cultural genocide, outsiders have no right to speak on what other people do with their culture. One can love a culture while respecting the people of that culture, in fact a culture and it's people are intrinsically linked. And there's very real harm being behind cultural appropriation, such as the perpetuating of stereotypes, or the transforming from what was once good to bad, or lies being spread etc. When will you people learn that you aren't entitled to everything just because you like it?

[@johnnoyobbo8618]

@@ealpacaf.7463who cares it’s clothes

[@NoRockinMansLand]

Learn the difference between appropration and appreciation before trying to victimize yourself

[@cherryberry4264]

@@johnnoyobbo8618 Ok bye, if you don’t care about the subject then you can move along

[@hanne3214]

....so am I not allowed to wear my free flowing skirts anymore... lol. I just like my floral skirts. They make me smile.

[@averyjackson5108]

Yah…no Go back far enough you’ll find an issue with everything. Take pants for example - the Roman’s thought it was barbaric to wear the, since Northern Europeans wore them. The idea that one single culture has all the rights to a look is ridiculous

[@Murder.Muffin]

As a gypsy woman, it's okay if you dress this way.

[@brookecristello2363]

❤❤❤

[@lun4ever]

Thank you

[@colettelee-k2466]

Appropriation is when an aspect of a culture previously used to discriminate against and persecute a group of people is taken, stripped of it's cultural roots, and used in a purely aesthetic way- often by the same people who used it against others to begin with. It is a VERY SPECIFIC phenomenon and this is quite obviously an overlooked case of it. This does NOT mean you can't wear what you want, which was never stated in the video, but the least you can do is acknowledge the issue, educate yourself and apply that knowledge to your decisions. This is not a personal attack, the creator is simply raising awareness and bringing support to an under-priveledged community. I'm tired of people acting as if everyone is out to police their wardrobe, this issue is much bigger than that.

[@theliosewell896]

The demographics that don't experience this, refuse to understand.

[@roramoya]

Perfectly said! There is a difference between appreciation and apropriation and it begins with where you spend your money. I feel this is especially problematic in the health and beauty industry but fashion as well and I hadn't even thought of it that way until you educated me

[@AbadonBIack]

Policing the clothes people wear that may have been inspired by another culture is ridiculous. Every single culture is derived in some way from the cultures before it, and the cultures around it. Limiting your culture to a select group of people that you deem pure enough to partake is a good way to have your culture be lost to history. Ancient cultures still inspire fashion, design, and architecture in the modern day because they were spread across the known world and allowed to be explored and appreciated by everyone who came in contact with them. To cut that off means when the last pure blooded member of your group dies, your culture dies with them.

[@Necrophyllis.]

Womp womp. Welcome to the multicultural world.

[@chacha42778]

you know that we’re lucky to live where we do when the biggest issues in people’s life is someone’s outfit

[@jdl713]

We are in the age of the internet, culture is meant to be shared. Food, lifestyle, clothing, hairstyles, tattoos. Everything is MEANT to be shared. We aren’t selfish about our culture. “Appropriation” is only present in the west 🙄

[@dreamyjae9320]

This is kind of like getting mad at an asian person for listening to Taylor Swift. Gatekeep 💯

[@azadice3534]

Are you ever happy?

[@sadiebEP]

The glitter eyeshadow in your inner eye corners is being appropriated from me as a white girl in middle school and it offends me. Please wipe it off it is appropriating my high school rebellion and you have NO idea what I went through to get that chic look.

[@sadiebEP]

Did you purchase that eye shadow second hand from a middle school girls closet? I don’t think so. Try again

[@mushroomz9931]

I love this comment so much.

[@chrissyswifey]

LMAO

[@pale_n_tired]

😭😭

[@zachcrowl8504]

Seems like people loved the designs and fashion of your culture and others and made it a part of their lives. Why is that bad? Nobody gets mad when a white person loves Mexican food or Indian food Why is it bad to love a different cultures clothing. It seems like you want every group of people to look one specific way and not intermingle and share anything from their cultures. Which seems way more racist then wearing some clothing that came from a village.

[@mustardvigilante8777]

No he emphasized why in the end listen to the whole thing

[@zachcrowl8504]

@@mustardvigilante8777 is it the fact that large companies found a demand and made a larger supply? Is it the fact that the large companies aren’t giving some of the profits to the the less fortunate people who originated the style? Is it that the large companies are taking sales away from people who originally made these clothes? I guess i don’t understand How exactly these people are being “left in the dust”. Or is it the claim that people can’t wear this style of clothing without being racially profiled? If so I would like to ask how? I’m not racist and I don’t know the history or culture of these clothes well enough to make a racially motivated judgment of someone wearing these clothes so explain to me how this causes racial profiling. Because I would just assume that the person is wearing clothes that they like to wear or comfortable clothing or something along those lines. what racial profiling occurs when wearing this style? Is it the assumption that you are Romani?

[@eve6623]

I really love your input on these topics because I feel like there not talked about enough. Things like this and other topics similar need to be addressed. Personally I’m more invested in how tourism has affected native Hawaiian people and culture because I’m native Hawaiian mixed and have family on the islands. But I am always open to looking at other cultures and peoples perspectives as well as their experiences on how their culture has been impacted by aesthetics or tourism. Love your videos by the way! Apologies for the mini rant or if I come off as ignorant(that is not my intent).

[@catherineleslie-faye4302]

Hippies are a social movement we are not an asthetic. Big business wants you to buy into the idea that you can buy your way into being a hippy but that has never been so. You either live the hippy life or you do not.

[@catherineleslie-faye4302]

@@romarose I am Didikai.

[@catherineleslie-faye4302]

@@romarose I as many in the USA do, work Rennaisance Faires... I get called Hippy often. You would call those of us who follow and work the faires marhime but we are not and Roma of my generation know the difference. I will not split hairs with you on ths.

[@TheMoonlightMage]

In my experience is those "love and light" people that are the most angry

[@gemfire400]

Alot of them will give you the shirt off their back if you needed it I would anyway

[@TheMoonlightMage]

@@gemfire400 Then they'd hold that over your head

[@RaeganScarlett]

there’s a book called Living on The Devil’s Doorstep that explains why this is if you’d like to read it

[@val-vi4jh]

as a romani-hungarian person. what??? wearing specific clothing styles or different patterns doesn’t make it appropiation. the only problem is romani people not being able to wear cultural attire bc of racism. it’s a pattern, not a cultural cloth, conclusion: not appropriation. also, it’s a persons intention that can make it appropriation/ appreciation.

[@RoyalRoses]

Nobody can do, say, or wear anything without pissing you off. What a miserable way to live.

[@wackywally69420]

You sound profoundly miserable that you cant handle anyone anywhere being mildly critical without taking it as a personal attack. Maybe check yourself?

[@user-lb3fr8lv1g]

It's not that just respect and ask

[@haleyrsm]

@@user-lb3fr8lv1gif you respect and ask they still say it’s appropriation

[@Theonetheoneonecunt]

@@haleyrsm ok and? That’s them respectfully informing you and wanting to educate you. Acknowledge where they are coming from

[@MisstressMourtisha]

fr im sick of this sh

[@eliasbinde2629]

Just let the hippies wear their colourful clothing, it’s not about you. They didn’t think about you when choosing their outfit, probably nobody does. Stop thinking the world revolves around you and worry about your own stuff. If you put all the effort you put into bitching about other people’s clothing into working on your own life you might be at a point where you are so happy and content with yourself that you couldn’t care less what others wear.

[@Meekavintage]

ROUND OF APPLAUSE

[@cowoooo]

Totally agree

[@Curled.Nettle]

Agreed! I personally love the 'hippie clothes / aesthetic'

[@CierraJohnson-bh4mc]

🙄 Again someone else defending cultural appropriation.

[@eliasbinde2629]

@@CierraJohnson-bh4mc do you really believe someone owns an entire type of clothing? Or a hairstyle? Do you actually believe I don’t have the right to wear any clothing that I find beautiful? (Obviously except for things like nazi or klan symbols etc) Culture should be shared and cherished with and by anyone who enjoys it. This kind of rhetoric creates a divide in society instead of cohesion and mutual appreciation.

[@pinhomaster8261]

This " culture appropriation" thing is getting crazy bruh, well ok then Hippie is just a mix of romani and other cultures, not just "romani appropriayion" like bro lets normalize others to dress things that aren't from their culture

[@ladydread5838]

Culture used to be and is supposed to be shared...not gatekeeped. Btw why is cultural appropriation suddenly like a major no no while sexual appropriation is gaining more acceptance by the masses? This world is so contradictory it makes my brain hurt.

[@Twin.tinyyy]

You clearly wasn’t listening

[@GraceHarwood88]

The Celts and the Viking women that inhabited the lands typically thought of as white, had styles and culture too. The fact you aren’t as aware of it as you are hippie/boho chic, suggests that the erasure of someone’s culture has already succeeded. Vest tops and t-shirts aren’t “their culture” either.

[@combatcanis]

What about you liking those type clothes because you LIKE them? Buying things secondhand, not auditable seeking out? Genuine question.

[@mmddubstepcanbefree6277]

WTF dude, literally this is how culture works, It fluctues and evolve, showing how conected we are to other people and other traditions. This shows us humanity and conection, something that egocentric people don't understand.

[@target0069]

This dude just has a problem with everything 💀

[@Eatdatpoopoo445]

Exactly Everytime i see his face i involuntarily roll my eyes

[@justin12378]

people can wear whatever they want

[@kilkoykil71]

How does taking inspiration from other cultures hurt anyone?

[@robertlaba6053]

Oh no you have a problem with fashion

[@rhorho14]

I don’t get appropriation and why it’s bad and certainly not in this case. What I’d call this is “inspired by”. And tbh it doesn’t even look that much alike? I think hippie style also just comes from like wanting comfort and sort of being closer to nature.

[@goose8447]

Man you're really setting us back with that segragationalist mindset of yours.

[@kobyking01]

Is this not the by product of America known as a melting pot of cultures across the world, is this not what makes our nation great? I do not understand your incessant complaints.

[@yumidean578]

It's. It's a skirt. 💀 Like don't get me wrong, appropriating any culture isnt right. But this is literally just a type of pattern on cloth. Why should someone feel guilty for wearing clothes now??? Shouldn't it be a good thing for people to embrace a small part of a large culture?

[@familysystem]

Yeah, there’s examples of hippie and bohemian fashion that are way more blatant and on the nose with making a prop of certain cultures. The young ladies in the picture here are just wearing long skirts and patterns LOL.

[@pvp6077]

Y'all. What is the pattern? Are you so inundated with this specific trend of appropriating this specific culture that you can't recognize the style? It's not "generic european peasant" or something, this was literally taken direct from Romani women. But we use it so much people have begun to think it was ours to begin with. It wasn't.

[@dingdring6317]

Imagine having such an easy non problematic life that you're complaining on the internet about a type of fashion 💀

[@Daisy_518]

You clearly missed the entire point. Good job. 👍

[@cookienoodles]

Leave people alone, let them dress wtv they want they are not being disrespectful and calling everything cultural appropriation doesn't help making people of different cultures closer, it's the opposite. As a person of a country full of history and culture, I am more than happy to see people "appropriate" our culture, sharing cultural aspects it's the beauty of globalization and doesn't have to be a bad thing.

[@dovee1]

He didn't say to not wear it, just that the sourcing of it and the understanding of its origins is important.

[@malajkomkobakos1792]

Grow up and stop being petty

[@sabrinaleedance]

i used to be a "hippie" in my dress and style and stuff and people wondered why i stopped having that style they think ive changed but ..im def still a "hippie" in mindset lol. ive just enjoyed being myself and i dont have to dress a certain way to have a certain mindset, yanno? plus ...this. and people have just made it be a fashion choice instead of a mindset

[@evilevilhorriblebad]

finally someone who knows that being a hippie is about mindset ❤ i still love bright, colorful clothes and patchwork and accessories but you can have all of these things without needing to appropriate things from a marginalized group + thrifting and upcycling is a way to stick it to the oppressive capitalist system, which is the source of so much hate and violence

[@evilevilhorriblebad]

@@romarose okay??? i'm not roma

[@E42545]

@@romarosethanks for mentioning this lol, I would love to see more talk about how a huge part of the “hippie culture” is socialist philosophy everything just indiscriminately (even literally idolizing people like Stalin 😬) while simultaneously co-opting the aesthetics/dress of the parts of the world whose cultures were most harmed by the worst iterations of it. As a second gen American desperately trying to access my erased roots who also ..I guess…? considers themselves/ is considered a “hippie” it’s weird as hell to experience

[@kate5334]

Hippy style dosnt hurt anyone, it dosnt look like romani style, so just leave people alone. Of they would wear the national clothes and be disrespecful then okey, but a style is not obtain by anyone, and a style is not a cultural clothes. Fasion gets inspiration from everyone, and you should be proud thaf fasion include romani people.

[@tulip811]

... I always associate "hippies" with being stoned ...

[@littlemissnoname3184]

This is the same guy who were triggered of Borat, FREAKING BORAT

[@Kxtie_A]

Why does everything have to be "problematic" THEYRE JUST CLOTHES!!! People are not wearing them to make fun of anyone, theyre just wearing whatever they like. Get over yourself

[@Iatebarbedwire]

OMG THANK YOUUU!!! ITS CLOTHING FROM HOT TOPIC, CHILL OUT!

[@Grace-wq8uo]

okay now you are just looking for ways to be oppressed. just because someone wears something from another culture, does not make it appropriation!

[@suncloudrain3741]

Yesss! FInally someone that has sense and says it straight! :D

[@Andromedacelestia21]

Preach!

[@felixt808]

it DOES, though, if you buy from people that arent part of that culture, and dont know what those cultural things have as a history or what the meaning is. example, evil eyes: a lot of people wear huge ones bought from shein or some other fast fashion store and claim they're just sooo spiritual, which, the belief is fine, but they wouldn't be wearing the evil eye correctly: the big ones so many wear on their necks are supposed to be decorative things for around your HOUSE. neck ones are small but that doesnt fit their "aesthetic". me when i disrespect people's culture to look cool for other people who probably dont care 🥰

[@Lisaaaaaaq]

I know where you are coming from really, but from my understanding there is way more to the story than a lot of people know. There are some of these so called 'hippies' that are actually on their spiritual journey and going to places like India and Tibet to learn more from the teachers/gurus there. Many of them have immersed themselves in the culture, history and teachings of those countries and the people that are actually living there welcome them with open arms and appreciate their appreciation of their culture. Those religions teach that we are all one and part of each other no matter what race, ethnicity or nationality we were born with. As a result, many 'hippies' are influenced by the way they dress. Perhaps clothing they have acquired from the local markets during their travels. It is so easy to judge and label one group of people (as many have done and are doing to the Romani people) as bad, but like you admitted at the beginning of the video, you don't really know many of them and their true intentions. Many genuinely just want peace and to not bother other people. This isn't the first time they have faced discrimination. People also used to break up their peaceful congregations in the past (some time in the 60s) and get brutally beaten up because the government did not understand them. Ofcourse, there are bad 'hippies' too that claim to be peaceful but there are bad apples everywhere. There are narcissists everywhere

[@Lisaaaaaaq]

@@romarose Apologies, I wasn't referring to Romani people in my comment when talking about spiritual practices

[@Evogurl-gf4ne]

Umm, I don't think the Romani people would dress like that. The way I understand it they have some pretty strict dress codes and the hippie aesthetic you're using for your examples shows too much skin.

[@pvp6077]

Are you telling a Romani how Romani women dress? 😬😬😬

[@lou1012]

I used to work retail and by far my worst experience was working in these hippy places. Least environmentally friendly place I've ever worked and also only acknowledged people who made the clothes if it could be used as a selling point. Super catty too. The asthetic is just a facade lol

[@NotANameist]

No one “owns” culture. We’ll dress however we please.

[@auto_math]

"You drink water ? Do you know that romani culture invented water. When you're drinking water you're actually appropriating romani culture in an act of colonisation."