The Maw Quest So Dark, It Was Removed From The Beta - [Unknown Side of WoW]

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hirumaredx

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@aspiringnormie9499
@aspiringnormie9499 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for still covering the lore and parts of the game that are less socially topical.
@Hiihtopipa
@Hiihtopipa 2 жыл бұрын
What do you mean, i talk about these in parties all the time?
@riftwalker9296
@riftwalker9296 2 жыл бұрын
I love how Blizzard thinks the Maw lore was too dark, but left in a quest where you LITERALLY torture someone for information in WotLK.
@devilskiss8421
@devilskiss8421 2 жыл бұрын
ah those were the times, now warcraft lost its soul
@griggins
@griggins 2 жыл бұрын
Well, ya just zap a guy with something right? There are multiple quests where you torture for info and kill people in wotlk. I guess the difference here is that this guy was in a chair lol
@etou1146
@etou1146 2 жыл бұрын
It's called framing. By leaving out crucial information, you create an incomplete picture in the readers mind. So if you really care about the lorewise "torture" (which mechanically is just beating an enemy like you do all the time) you would also have to add the fact that the player is lorewise a unfree servant of the Lich King at this moment of time
@spongebobonmolly
@spongebobonmolly 2 жыл бұрын
the gnomish tavern music was too much
@lenkagamine4145
@lenkagamine4145 2 жыл бұрын
@@etou1146 I think they were talking about the *other* quest where you torture people for information, with the Scarlet Onslaught in borean tundra (I think).
@kou7191
@kou7191 2 жыл бұрын
"too dark" is really an interesting reason, considering you're *literally* in Hell - it can't possibly get darker than that.
@TheTrueDaniel
@TheTrueDaniel 2 жыл бұрын
It's woke Disney hell now 😢
@DiesNahts6969
@DiesNahts6969 2 жыл бұрын
Goldshire Inn....
@northp3214
@northp3214 2 жыл бұрын
So torturing one night elf soul is too brutal for the game, but killing the souls of innocent teldrasill citizens after burning them alive and months of torture in the maw is okay? Blizzard's moral compass is very strange
@kronk1894
@kronk1894 2 жыл бұрын
"a single death is a tragedy, a million deaths are a statistic"
@CrashHeadroom
@CrashHeadroom 2 жыл бұрын
The moral compass points whatever way the party tells it to comrade :)
@z3roo0
@z3roo0 2 жыл бұрын
muh 6 million
@poeticserenade
@poeticserenade Жыл бұрын
I cannot help but feel that the cutting of the anima extraction thing is because of the whole QAnon "adrenachrome" conspiracy shit going on at the time.
@bonefetcherbrimley7740
@bonefetcherbrimley7740 2 жыл бұрын
I remember reading this description in game, but I can't remember if it was the beta or live. Either way, super brutal! Its a shame blizzard wimped out and removed it. We're literally in super warcraft hell and no one mentions the torture? Pft. Pft I say! Still, cool vid.
@HEEHEEBOII
@HEEHEEBOII 2 жыл бұрын
it was around in live for a bit, probably got patched within the first few patches. I remember reading it too.
@PopsicleSponge
@PopsicleSponge 2 жыл бұрын
Its for sure in live. i didn't play beta and recognize the text.
@huslainemaxwell9866
@huslainemaxwell9866 2 жыл бұрын
one possibility is also that they removed those really grim parts about torturing a nightelf by forcing her to relive Teldrassil because it would have only served to emphasize just how terrible and irredeemable the actions of WoWs morally gray universally loved main character are, and that would have clashed with the story direction they want to take Sylvanas after turning on Thanos.
@monkeysk8er33
@monkeysk8er33 2 жыл бұрын
Yes, because seeing both Kael'thas and Garrosh in chains didn't imply any form of torture whatsoever. Especially in the dialogue between Garrosh and his torturer. 🙄
@Feorr001
@Feorr001 2 жыл бұрын
Recently i got a bit into Warhammer 40k lore so im a bit dulled against dark lore things but objectively this isnt "we can't leave this in PG13 game" level of dark. The description isnt detailed at all just says "limit is 114 for kaldorei females"
@Twistybanana
@Twistybanana 2 жыл бұрын
Technically its limit 114, breaking point 115 for a single female Kaldorei. Others may go longer or shorter
@numnaut1314
@numnaut1314 2 жыл бұрын
After learning about the Dark Eldar, or the flayed ones. Stuff like this looks like Childs play.
@bigmeknurgle
@bigmeknurgle 2 жыл бұрын
The Algon star was a pretty neat reference, and it's a great analogy for Ulduar's final boss. A now-active demon star, a sign of ill omen, inconsistent with it's brightness, orbiting around the Titans, but waning when shown the fortitude of Azeroth. Kinda wish I didn't keep getting red herring'd with Garrosh thumbnails tho.
@pumirya
@pumirya 2 жыл бұрын
this is dark? I’m grateful that the people who make final fantasy XIV aren’t so skittish.
@Loki-qo2kb
@Loki-qo2kb 2 жыл бұрын
Funny thing about blizzard's twisted worldview is that they have bosses in WoW like Thaddius, made exclusively from women and children, you can hear them scream in the raid as ambient, and the screams only stop if you killed the boss, but Gnomish tavern jiggs? Too dark man
@habama1077
@habama1077 2 жыл бұрын
​@@Loki-qo2kb If Blizzard was replaced with the current one (that is currently replacing paintings of women with fruit) back in 2006 when they were designing Naxx, you can bet they would not have dared to write a boss like Thaddius. At some point they figured that treating their players like children is better than fixing their actual in-company issues. so yeah, very twisted worldview.
@Shiirow
@Shiirow 2 жыл бұрын
@@habama1077 Dont worry, Thadius will be replaced with a bowl of fruit and the ambient sound will be children laughing and playing. Change coming in 9.2
@BenDover-gc4xs
@BenDover-gc4xs 2 жыл бұрын
@@Shiirow good one mate XD
@MythicalWiseNab
@MythicalWiseNab 2 жыл бұрын
Warcraft Was Meant To Be Dark And Violent
@lukaslefevre8007
@lukaslefevre8007 2 жыл бұрын
this, i wish they would go back instead of this cosmic bullshit
@1nsaniel
@1nsaniel 2 жыл бұрын
It's not called peacecraft, smh
@pyktukasplays4945
@pyktukasplays4945 2 жыл бұрын
To be fair, the works of "Lovecraft" aren't exactly "lovely" so perhaps Warcraft is meant to be an inverse of that? But in all seriousness, older lore is probably darker. Heck, even the orcish hero doesn't eat pork because piggie squeals remind him how the slaughtered children screamed... The whole road in Hellfire has almost an ocean of skulls... Stratholme and what Arthas did in his kingdom after returning from Northrend. Multiple genocides... Enslavement of humanoids and others.
@lukaslefevre8007
@lukaslefevre8007 2 жыл бұрын
@@pyktukasplays4945 older lore IS darker, even in WoD it was pretty fucking dark, it went downhill in legion and after
@pyktukasplays4945
@pyktukasplays4945 2 жыл бұрын
@@lukaslefevre8007 Legion's lore implied another very successful genocide
@VforArt
@VforArt 2 жыл бұрын
the darkest story of WOW is that game it self turned in to wife beater ... it tortures us with its systems, grind, chores and constant obstacles to fun
@TajUrIt-
@TajUrIt- 2 жыл бұрын
The implication that the Kal’dorei female that was tortured may have been Tyrande itches my brain in the best way.
@ZackeroniAndCheese
@ZackeroniAndCheese 2 жыл бұрын
Your final fact about auto trade addon is very cool I never knew that. I would love a video about how wow tried to adapt Everquest (or other old MMO) ideals.
@danielaxc2900
@danielaxc2900 2 жыл бұрын
Idk I think the dark questline left out from the Maw was a huge mistake on the devs parts and I'll try to explain why in depth. Part of what made the Shadowlands shorts so good is they made a strong case for why the Shadowlands are important and what is at stake. We know the Maw is a bad place and bad things happen to the souls there but we don't really get a lot of first hand accounts or real ideas of the severity of the bad stuff. This takes away a bit from the urgency or seriousness of the threat at hand, or at least lends itself to a lot of potentially effective stories they could tell but they just don't. An older example, the Runas questline from Legion, is a good firsthand view of how one character's struggle with the world they inhabit and a consequence of the Legion SELLS that threat. You want justice for Runas at the conclusion of the questline, just how you would have wanted justice for the elf forced to watch the burning of Teldrassil 100+ times. It's just good world building, in my opinion.
@ben-64
@ben-64 2 жыл бұрын
Gods forbid they kept the flavorful PG-13 torture note in a zone that is LITERALLY HELL. This is why I still follow the game despite having quit months ago. Constant reminders that I made the right decision. Fuck Blizzard.
@1un4cy
@1un4cy 2 жыл бұрын
It's not even bad it's kind of funny actually. Well the tavern music part where it tortured the tormentors more than the subject.
@cinnamonroll3342
@cinnamonroll3342 2 жыл бұрын
get a life please
@BenDover-gc4xs
@BenDover-gc4xs 2 жыл бұрын
@@cinnamonroll3342 he did by choosing to quit WoW. Can u say the same thing about urself?
@Mysteriosf2ptwink
@Mysteriosf2ptwink 2 жыл бұрын
@@BenDover-gc4xs Quit wow yet still follows the game to trash on it. Clearly has a life.
@cinnamonroll3342
@cinnamonroll3342 2 жыл бұрын
@@Mysteriosf2ptwink exactly my point!
@SwedetasticGames
@SwedetasticGames 2 жыл бұрын
The Torturer's Note is a massive Amnesia: The Dark Descent easter egg/inspiration. It is the exact process (although with mild comedy thrown in) that Alexander used to extract more Vitae from his torture victims.
@mambojambo4870
@mambojambo4870 2 жыл бұрын
Hiru you're the only warcraft channel i'm still subscribed to, shadowlands did the lore really bad... Thanks for your videos! Love em
@9and12wholepizzas
@9and12wholepizzas 2 жыл бұрын
Hey just wanted to say thank you for the content, I really enjoy your videos and watch them a few times each. Keep doing you man!
@hirumaredx
@hirumaredx 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@chrisramsteck5866
@chrisramsteck5866 2 жыл бұрын
Might as well call all your channels hirumagold. Because everything that comes out is gold
@hirumaredx
@hirumaredx 2 жыл бұрын
lol, that was actually the name of my main in game for years. I only changed it recently in BFA to hirumaredx to better match the channel
@frydsaman6857
@frydsaman6857 2 жыл бұрын
@@hirumaredx A very necessary rebrand
@chrisramsteck5866
@chrisramsteck5866 2 жыл бұрын
@@hirumaredx A very necessary rebrand
@Ryan-sn3uo
@Ryan-sn3uo 2 жыл бұрын
One might mistake that as an Asmongold affiliated channel
@bonkyouded
@bonkyouded 2 жыл бұрын
the whole lore items in the maw made me feel sad. Imagine if we got a lot of logs of different characters being tortured in torghast and the final one sounded like Garrosh hellscream... Nodding to that fact he went to the maw and not to Castle Nathria. I do hope this time the wow team is taking is for the good of the game and not to just repeat the cycle.
@preds43
@preds43 2 жыл бұрын
Like the audio files from Batman: Arkham City. Oooooo, I like that idea.
@Rizon1985
@Rizon1985 2 жыл бұрын
The second event was known. It was going to be the reverse of AQ and make players first need to defend against the continuous flood of demons from the gate while getting supplies ready to breach the gate and setup a defense on the other end to stop them there. Securing the stairs was an advantage over defending in a crater and having a beachhead means safe travel through the portal and sending reinforcements out to the keeps that we lost contact with long ago. They even tested this event of demons flooding from the gate and players having to defend. There were reports of people who were there for it. They were testing if upgraded servers were better up to the challenge or how they could tune the event to make it a better experience for players than AQ. But it just didn't work without applying restrictions that would make the event too small and lose the feel of a world event. They also didn't want to make some kind of war effort again if players didn't gain from joining the effort and they didn't want different servers unlocking travel to Draenor at different times or new servers having to catch up. They just wanted everyone to buy the exp pack and all servers be able to teleport to Draenor at the same time worldwide. So it all got downgraded. Players just have a small quest at the gate and Kruul can be farmed for a while. That's why later in wotlk they implemented personal instances in maps and many more ingame movies. This enabled them to bring more massive events into the world of the player without killing the server or the client. And this then also gave them the ability for other uses with the tech like making maps transform visually depending on the progression of the player.
@noprisoners8621
@noprisoners8621 2 жыл бұрын
The most darkest quest they have is to play shadowlands.
@tomeekun
@tomeekun 2 жыл бұрын
I honestly doubt the lore items were removed because they were just so dark. They've shown way worse stuff in wow before. I think it's just a case of they were forgotten in the scramble when they had to crunch to finish SL for launch.
@hirumaredx
@hirumaredx 2 жыл бұрын
Except they were already in and able to be done, they were removed, not "forgotten"
@xadamx94
@xadamx94 2 жыл бұрын
“115th run of burning of teldrassil” nice little zombies nod. In fact, the maw reminds me of Alcatraz……….
@KokomoJoe23
@KokomoJoe23 2 жыл бұрын
What’s the name of the piano piece playing during the auction house bit at the end?
@theamazinggracia1376
@theamazinggracia1376 2 жыл бұрын
@hirumaredx I think you need to recheck the snarlmane becuase Kealthas also kills a gnoll who was named Snarlmane right on where Fenris Keep should be located on repair the Observatory first blood campaing mission. This located was swarmed by scourge on second mission following that one which can explain his undead being.
@SntMighty
@SntMighty 2 жыл бұрын
I played about 7 years of Guild Wars 1 and u had a face-to-face trade system there, to be quite honest i dont think it felt too social either but u did have some fun faces here and there, but then again nowadays we go for whatever is more convenient rather than things that take more effort
@Pumkin932
@Pumkin932 2 жыл бұрын
A quest that was so spoopy, they removed it from the game? My god... I bet it had something to do with a PG-13 innuendo, demon SlAvEs, or... or... a painting of a woman being... ALL WOMANLY OR SOMETHING OH GOD PLEASE NO IT'S TOO SCARY.
@LuLu-uz3lg
@LuLu-uz3lg 2 жыл бұрын
quick! turn it into fruit !
@hiropisku1078
@hiropisku1078 2 жыл бұрын
Don't worry guys, they'll bring back the quest but replace the NPCs with fruit
@RandomGamerCory
@RandomGamerCory 2 жыл бұрын
at this point being a removed quest does not have a high bar just making a joke or calling something a female will get it cut
@RFC-3514
@RFC-3514 2 жыл бұрын
3:14 - Dark? It's mostly a vehicle for a joke about gnome music. And "forced to re-watch the burning of Teldrassil 115 times" is probably a self-deprecating joke about the way the game replays the same video on every alt. If anything, I think they removed that note because the jokes undermined the sense of danger and torment they were trying to create for the Maw.
@majormom357
@majormom357 2 жыл бұрын
I don't play the game anymore but watching a hiru video makes me feel like I'm 15 again and losing my life to wow. Love the nostalgia
@Pesthuf
@Pesthuf 2 жыл бұрын
It's fascinating how Sylvanas made so much use of mind control to reach her goals in Warcraft 3, but the current WoW writers portray her as this paragon of free will who hates enslavement and serving.
@Icetor85
@Icetor85 2 жыл бұрын
Blizzard be like oh you have to do this Players will we don’t like to do that Blizzard deal with it Players leave game because developers don’t want to listen to Feed back Blizzard pikach face
@ThePariahDark
@ThePariahDark 2 жыл бұрын
"Blizz wanted the game to be very social, face to face" ... ... And one day, they woke up, and decided social is for losers and began making groupfinder, LFR, ...
@Tatuzka
@Tatuzka 2 жыл бұрын
"Too dark" Oh for fucksake Blizzard... That was tame as fuck.. Are they making the game for 8 year olds now? ...
@genultz4866
@genultz4866 2 жыл бұрын
2:58 something like that is in the game, there's a dead lady up by stygian incinerator with a letter beside it with similar writing as just a random readable.
@hirumaredx
@hirumaredx 2 жыл бұрын
that is where it is from, in the beta the note you got from her was readable, but in the live version it is not.
@genultz4866
@genultz4866 2 жыл бұрын
@@hirumaredx I could swear I found it in live shortly after it came out I never played beta but I could be misremembering I'd have to go look again could be something similar it's been a while. If I find it or what I was talking about I'll tweet you.
@preds43
@preds43 2 жыл бұрын
"Breaking point: 115th run of the Burning of Teldrassil" BRUH WTF???
@falscherkim3033
@falscherkim3033 2 жыл бұрын
Regarding your final fact: a Video would be very interesting where you Show all Features added to the Game which where inspired by addons
@MrOrcshaman
@MrOrcshaman 2 жыл бұрын
Sylvanas is as hypocritical as woke collage students complaining about everyone's privilege while on their iPhones in their bolts made in sweatshops in China drinking their soy lattes.
@-Miasimon
@-Miasimon 2 жыл бұрын
"Too dark" Oh but genociding a bunch of elves, personally rolling a molten ball over *hundreds* of leper gnomes (still salty about that not being a repeatable quest), and basically anything in Wrath or Legion, are all OK.
@ilikefishandpotatoes
@ilikefishandpotatoes 2 жыл бұрын
It’s like they are desperately trying to make the game kid accessible yet very few kids play WoW these days and just end up disappointing a lot of adults
@pyktukasplays4945
@pyktukasplays4945 2 жыл бұрын
WoW should just try to be itself again. Then it would attract the right audience for itself, I think.
@SwedetasticGames
@SwedetasticGames 2 жыл бұрын
Also, the Warlock Dark Portal event, would've been so cool if they could've pulled it off. Imagine if we'd had cool stuff like that for Black Temple with pally's and priests, Mages for Malygos, DK's for Icecream Citadel, Hunters for Gruul, Rogue's for Serpent Shrine Cavern...
@hunlepto2239
@hunlepto2239 2 жыл бұрын
And druids themselves should have done a pre-requisite quest for opening the AQ gates in the first place before the War Effort event starts. So many great ideas had to be scrapped.
@iruga7379
@iruga7379 2 жыл бұрын
Me: /spit Blizzard: OH NOO THE HORROR !! Too Dark...remove it..
@DuckBoiGames
@DuckBoiGames 2 жыл бұрын
I've been so addicted to wow recently. This channel has been my best friend during the past few weeks :D thankyou for the content
@enkh-erdenebatbold1177
@enkh-erdenebatbold1177 2 жыл бұрын
Dont play too much and ruin your life brother.
@PaperiLiidokki
@PaperiLiidokki 2 жыл бұрын
Hey nice to hear your having fun with the game, but you know what, you should really try Final Fantasy 14, it's another really good game of the same genre
@DuckBoiGames
@DuckBoiGames 2 жыл бұрын
@@enkh-erdenebatbold1177 I wont haha
@DuckBoiGames
@DuckBoiGames 2 жыл бұрын
@@PaperiLiidokki I will give it a look thanks
@PaperiLiidokki
@PaperiLiidokki 2 жыл бұрын
@@DuckBoiGames Start with just a free to play, don't buy it, you get to play base game Real reborn and Heavensward expansion for FREE! to level 60, with some restrictions BUT you get to experience the FULL story of Realm reborn and Heavensward expansion and it's totally worth it. Heavensward being a award winning expansion After that make your decision if you want to full commit
@Nilllan
@Nilllan 2 жыл бұрын
Im so thankful for These videos, keep it up Hiru
@chuklesty
@chuklesty 2 жыл бұрын
The last fact is what's happening currently on Path of Exile. We have to use a external webpage to find items to buy and then you whisp people on the game. The company gave us a official trade website but it still sucks when buying a lot of items because people doesn't respond often, price fixers, etc...
@hirumaredx
@hirumaredx 2 жыл бұрын
Man, that sounds inconvenient
@thanganbabp5570
@thanganbabp5570 2 жыл бұрын
face to face trading sounds kinda cool. ive heard lots of neat stories from people who used to play runescape about stuff like that
@ShadowDawn
@ShadowDawn 2 жыл бұрын
Great video! Maybe you've already done this, but it'd be interesting to see a history of addons that became in-game features, like you were saying with the Autotrade addon.
@adriangar95
@adriangar95 2 жыл бұрын
Duda there are tons of channels of wow curiositys but are always the same , but you take new one every time! Its crazy like the auto trade addon!
@alphaomega938
@alphaomega938 2 жыл бұрын
Goddamn being a lock never fails to reward, truly the best class first last and always
@gymlife408
@gymlife408 2 жыл бұрын
they should have removed the Maw entirely-this place was what made me rethink even logging in
@bunbox
@bunbox 2 жыл бұрын
"Algol is also the name of an early programming language" ............no, an Algorithm is a thing in computing in general, the programming language just means it used algorithms. Its a reference a "Process" or a "Series of steps pre-defined to be taken" known as an "Algorithm". In this case the Algorithm being an automated evaluation and re-origination. Please don't reach so hard, you're just going to be so desperate trying to find this one thing its a reference to, that you'll miss the actual thing its a reference to.
@ElladanKenet
@ElladanKenet 2 жыл бұрын
"Okay, this is Prisoner #34,522. How should we start off today?" "I'm thinking.... Gnomish Tavern Music!"
@petrameyer1121
@petrameyer1121 2 жыл бұрын
But EQ had a Bazzar on Luclin! Awesome vid as usual. TY!
@Guarrow
@Guarrow 2 ай бұрын
Why didn't they just made their own version of the trading addon instead of the whole auction house system is pretty weird to me. I feel like it was the perfect solution for what the devs wanted and I do wish it was like that too
@KnightofEkron
@KnightofEkron 7 ай бұрын
I think this was my overall problem with Shadowlands, if dumped alot of lore on us and didnt do any of it justice, it seemed like it pulled back at the last minute.
@xenomorphic9708
@xenomorphic9708 Жыл бұрын
Love your videos man! Just got back into wow after years XD. Would love to see a video on how macros work and how to use them affectively to be a better player!
@edluke3415
@edluke3415 2 жыл бұрын
Wasn't expecting to see Durn from Ropetown, shout-out to all the dawgs who played on burning legion US back in vanilla
@codyrockwood15
@codyrockwood15 2 жыл бұрын
If this is dark to you then you're just a baby. That's why the game is in the state it's in. Pampering to children when the majority of the players are 25+
@mathy9408
@mathy9408 2 жыл бұрын
And now they are trying Forced Visualizations with those horrible cinematics on the players. Who said WoW devs dont know how to innovate?
@iceman_twitch
@iceman_twitch 2 жыл бұрын
I think AutoTrade is better than the actual AuctionHouse. But Auction House issue nowadays is most ppl quitted the game so it is hard to sell anything.
@RFC-3514
@RFC-3514 2 жыл бұрын
1:23 - "She wasn't shy about using mind control as long as that control is not directed at her." - Er... what does that sentence mean? That she doesn't want to control _her own_ mind?
@DiesNahts6969
@DiesNahts6969 2 жыл бұрын
Seeing your home and people burn again and again is pretty metal but idk man it just seems so.... meh. I hoped for way worse
@Rheolity
@Rheolity 2 жыл бұрын
I coulda swore i've read that night elf torture note in game before... But maybe i've just seen this video already
@jorgebellidolavado6382
@jorgebellidolavado6382 2 жыл бұрын
I am slowing thinking to go to private servers with altered stories. They don't care about writing
@tschellotov6372
@tschellotov6372 2 жыл бұрын
Good Video Hiru! Keep the good work up!
@renatotamas3889
@renatotamas3889 2 жыл бұрын
please stop using that piano song in the backround makes me fall a sleep on your vid man ZzzzZ
@graysaltine6035
@graysaltine6035 2 жыл бұрын
"it was disconcerting we were changing the game because we couldn't prevent players from implementing their own system." *THERE IT IS BOYS.* Wow, it's almost as if they had all the evidence they needed of where we would end up if they let AddOns do whatever they wanted. Fast forward to 2020 and we have fucking AddOns showing you where to point your screen in order to kick a soccer ball for one mechanic of one fight - a mechanic Blizz had to dream up because AddOns already automated *every challenging mechanic in the game.* There are WAs that literally solve the Mists dungeon puzzle for you smh. Any form of challenge or mental stimulation in the game is swiftly met with a WeakAura that replaces any need to think with an audio-clip of a cat meowing and a big sparkly highlight around the button you should press. You're playing "Barbie Picture Book: Point'n'Learn" with a fucking Warcraft GUI. You can thank AddOns for the Auction House - you can also thank AddOns for toxicity, gatekeeping, loss of social dynamics, over-complicated raid bosses, over-simplified rotations and the reason you stare at the bottom right corner of your screen for 90% of any raid encounter. *Thanks AddOns.*
@pyktukasplays4945
@pyktukasplays4945 2 жыл бұрын
Some add-ons should be banned I guess. Sometimes the players need to be protected from themselves.
@DMSteeley
@DMSteeley 2 жыл бұрын
I've been trying to remember the name of that Cosmo mod for like five years, thanks fam.
@kitsunefire1
@kitsunefire1 2 жыл бұрын
"It was disconcerting that we had to change the game to keep players from circumventing the system" Maybe it's the recent bias, but this is one of the most "Blizzard" things I've ever read "We don't wanna change the game to make it more enjoyable for players, we want it to be as inefficient as possible"
@ballsofsalsa01
@ballsofsalsa01 2 жыл бұрын
Dude people apparently liked Vanilla where everything was tedious and slow, dislike group finder and LFR , QoL although seems obvious to be good, some will disagree They want the forced feeling of social interaction. Ever wondered why we have dungeon queues, instead of going around asking for people to make a group like in vanilla? We can do that now , and walk to the dungeon and do it like the old time, but no one would ever do it when you have a simpler tool like dungeon finder. They've constantly shifted the gane to be more dynamic and leave behind empty time of nothing or just walking to the place, with portals and warlock summon ✌️ if anything, it's modern blizz that gives you liberties to take your road compared to before that was "style over substance", you gotta buy your bullets for your gun bc that's what fantasy 101 says do , and raids had only 1 difficulty for the same reason 😬
@1un4cy
@1un4cy 2 жыл бұрын
I'd much rather have a mythic key queue than having to manually get declined from thousands of other groups and have no one ever sign for my own keys.
@ballsofsalsa01
@ballsofsalsa01 2 жыл бұрын
@@1un4cy POV you're Enhancement shaman
@Vaelosh466
@Vaelosh466 2 жыл бұрын
I stopped playing Shadowlands before the Korthia patch so maybe this was already addressed, but I don't recall the game ever specifying whether other Maw Walkers "exist" in lore, or whether your PC is the only one. If not then that note would effectively confirm that there are multiple Maw Walkers. As I recall all the characters refer to you as if your Maw Walking is unique.
@comradep8519
@comradep8519 2 жыл бұрын
i assumed they were referring to other PCs, since canonically it'd be a bit silly if only one PC could ever exist, thus meaning every character is a separate maw walker
@Bitterman5868
@Bitterman5868 2 жыл бұрын
Thank God that Elder Scrolls killed all the love i had for blizzard. Todd saves
@TheOldestSoul
@TheOldestSoul 2 жыл бұрын
Dude.... not being able to mount in the maw was the biggest "eff you" to players that Blizzard ever pulled.
@1nsaniel
@1nsaniel 2 жыл бұрын
Not really. They could've made the maw more busy, and not a grey barren
@Solus5048
@Solus5048 2 жыл бұрын
How does the mawsworn have access to gnomish jigs?
@foretcl
@foretcl 2 жыл бұрын
Why not, the jailer is basically god
@hirumaredx
@hirumaredx 2 жыл бұрын
Some gnome likely got sent to the maw and wrote em.
@Solus5048
@Solus5048 2 жыл бұрын
@@hirumaredx ur reply makes more sense than the one above
@michaelf447
@michaelf447 2 жыл бұрын
I mean they shoulda just scraped the entire expansion
@1nsaniel
@1nsaniel 2 жыл бұрын
Ok, the last fact is so fucked up. Like the wow developer team intentionally develop the auction house to oppose the system built and used by players. Like why? How can someone have so much contempt for the people who play your game?. I've believed this for a while, but to see such a vivid example of how the devs are fighting their communities, is telling.
@hirumaredx
@hirumaredx 2 жыл бұрын
Well no it was developed because the playerbase wanted it so badly.
@ArcaneEther
@ArcaneEther 2 жыл бұрын
As with that "Auto Trade" add-on becoming baked into WoW, I wish Blizzard would take a closer look at the most popular Add-Ons out there and do the same. Thaoky's Altoholic, BagNon, MonkeySpeed, Molinari, Gryphon Remover, et cetera. These are all Add-Ons that are very popular, yet offer such basic tools that it is a wonder Blizzard never put them in the game by default. I signed up for that Community Council. If I am chosen, I will do what I can to try to convince them to bake this stuff in as options.
@beardedhippo8528
@beardedhippo8528 2 жыл бұрын
Blizzard was disconcerning about players implementing their own systems cause they didnt play the game the way blizzard intented people to play it.; Now in 2021 this sentence carries so much more weight lol xd
@Nexsusthepro
@Nexsusthepro 2 жыл бұрын
Pretty sure I read the torghast tormentor notes in live.
@bakshev
@bakshev 2 жыл бұрын
GNOMISH TAVERN JIGS!?!?!? THOSE MONSTERS!!!
@CroftGaming
@CroftGaming 2 жыл бұрын
1:19 damn that scared me
@shonuff9181
@shonuff9181 2 жыл бұрын
Dont worry guys 9.1.5 is coming ... lol
@DjDoxastic
@DjDoxastic 2 жыл бұрын
stop playing WoW, its time has long passed.
@Gruntman1234
@Gruntman1234 2 жыл бұрын
"Too Dark" is not something I'd use to describe anything in The Maw. "Trying Too Hard," on the other hand, is much more accurate.
@profpuffofficial2
@profpuffofficial2 2 жыл бұрын
YES MORE HIRU 💕💕
@svn8849
@svn8849 2 жыл бұрын
Algol. nice to learn stuff!
@godzgoliath
@godzgoliath 2 жыл бұрын
Anyone thinking about the snarling story from drama time during vanilla launch?
@TheAero36
@TheAero36 2 жыл бұрын
Didn’t the WoW diary flat out say the warlock event was for the tbc opening
@griggins
@griggins 2 жыл бұрын
I hoped for darker, but it's alright. The video was good so I'm not too disappointed.
@InnervateMusic
@InnervateMusic 2 жыл бұрын
1:20?????????????????????????????????????????????
@Arjalineck
@Arjalineck 2 жыл бұрын
blizz need to grow tf up
@Gonourakuto
@Gonourakuto 2 жыл бұрын
This note of lore was dark ? compare to many things in wow in was pretty okayish tbh
@seelcudoom1
@seelcudoom1 2 жыл бұрын
it would make sense for him to be classified as undead even if he was still alive if he was still possessed by a banshee
@wcg6857
@wcg6857 2 жыл бұрын
I thought the star caller guy was based on Vision from marvel
@mrtianflo7728
@mrtianflo7728 2 жыл бұрын
Hiru!! Hope you're doing well and making sure you're well rested 😊
@Jenartik
@Jenartik 2 жыл бұрын
makes no sense why Varimathras was begging for his life now
@pyktukasplays4945
@pyktukasplays4945 2 жыл бұрын
Well be is a manipulator, so maybe it was an act?
@stevensperanza109
@stevensperanza109 2 жыл бұрын
Every video you make i learn something new. Thanks man :D
@Zonofgod
@Zonofgod 2 жыл бұрын
𝘿𝙚𝙖𝙙 𝙜𝙞𝙢 𝙗𝙧𝙪𝙝
@Champeon12457
@Champeon12457 2 жыл бұрын
For the Algorythm!!!!
@Tronarul
@Tronarul 2 жыл бұрын
Tnx for the toy, I'd be nice to have one of those in every video whenever possible
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