Historian Kate Lister Rates Historic Couples In Movies

[@megan5867]

I lost it when she said "that old move, he swept her off her feet. I had a partner that did that once, but he buckled" 😂😂😂 Same, girl, same 😂😂😂

[@katfromthekong414]

That was such an excellent comment, wasn't it! 😂

[@marykaygerrets6363]

My grandmother was a 3rd class passenger on the ship that brought her to America. An officer requested someone who spoke Italian to be companion for a 12 year old girl who was traveling 1st class with her parents. Seems the young woman they had hired, backed out at the last minute. My grandmother who was 17 at the time volunteered and as a result spent majority of the time in 1st class. She ate breakfast & lunch with the family but could not attend the dinners since she did not have the proper dress, but the family arranged for her to have the 1st class dinners. One of my grandmother's favorite things to do was to eat it in front of her older sister who suffered from sea sickness.

[@Disneyfilmily]

That is such a cool story! Did she become friends with the first class girl? Or was it a temporary situation?

[@marykaygerrets6363]

No, both went their own way. The girl was from NYC and my grandmother settled in Ohio.

[@rosemarie5489]

Did you grandmother's family survived as well?

[@vicente8749]

The last part 💀

[@kimberlyc1406]

i don't think they were on the titanic lol @@rosemarie5489

[@Wladislav]

I fear the analysis of marriage and relationships throughout history is riddled with these _"this person was actually 10-14 years old at the time"_ stories...

[@monmothma3358]

I think you're right, unfortunately

[@gloriamontgomery6900]

Excellent point.

[@Katw76]

When you're dead by 30, 15 is middle-aged 🤷‍♀️

[@RhosynGwyn]

@@Katw76 Good point and we judge with modern eyes 13/14 was normal for girls to get married

[@christinaandre6286]

Very correct. I despise Braveheart for the fact they made a love story between William Wallace and the princess, when in reality she was I think 2 or 3 years old when he was executed. Also, they didn't wear kilts in that century, but that's a different video lol.

[@an80smetalwoman66]

“Oh, he carried her, swept off her feet: I had a partner who did that once, but he buckled.” 😂🤣

[@thebagelsproductions]

In our defence, it's a good bit harder than it looks. Also, oftentimes a great deal of ale has been taken 😂😂

[@leavoda3791]

​@@thebagelsproductionsthanks for being a good sport about it and for not losing your humor about it❤

[@yevgeniyaleshchenko849]

​​@@leavoda3791What are you thanking him for? I mean, such things are most often taken with humour.. or are you that insecure that yours is "buckling" too?🤔

[@Marginallist]

"Don't cry, go find your self another king" Motto of the life.

[@theorderofthebees7308]

Lol

[@yevgeniyaleshchenko849]

Sure... You'd wish.

[@KittTheHistorian]

"Go get yourself another king!" is possibly the single best quote I've ever heard about a royal favourite 😂

[@paramitch]

I love Kate - she's hilarious and witty and so much fun. I'd watch anything she comments on.

[@bryan7938]

Yes x

[@beth3471]

Her podcast is the BEST! I was hooked when she described Rasputin as “looking like he was drug through a hedge”. Funny and very true!!!

[@AlexanderDeusvult]

True 🙂👍🏻🇸🇪

[@mazzaf7575]

Alexander…bit of a nonce is genius😂

[@yevgeniyaleshchenko849]

That's just British humour and wit, aren't you familiar with it at all?

[@sabrecrafted7409]

That bit about looking up young Henry slayed me 🤣🤣

[@nette4307]

Please folks, MORE videos with Kate Lister! She is witty, strong, funny and very blunt in just the right way! Watching anything she does is a great experience. She so clearly knows her subject, and she makes history come alive. KUDOS!

[@yevgeniyaleshchenko849]

How do you know if she's "strong"? Do you personally know her? Why throw these words around?🤨

[@newgabe09]

@@yevgeniyaleshchenko849 This can mean strong in her opinions and way of expressing herself. Which can be seen on video without knowing her personally.

[@RuletheWorldwithsong]

What makes me so angry about Anne Boleyn is that people always call her a master seductress. No! Henry was an entitled ass who wanted to sleep with any woman he wanted. Poor Anne was doing her job as a lady in waiting to Catherine and then here comes horn-dog-Henry. Anne told him that she would rather be his wife than to be his mistress probably thinking that that was the end of it but noooooo! Fuckin Henry!!!

[@ladyofnoxus6733]

Actually no, Henry didnt have many mistresses, and YES Anne was a master Seductress, what else are you doing if you are playing hard to get but still leading on a man. (in her case a very powerful man) to get what she wanted. She was not a victim. the only victim is Queen Catherine of Aragon.

[@RuletheWorldwithsong]

@@ladyofnoxus6733 the historian just said that he had a lot of mistresses. Henry has a many mistresses as well as illegitimate children. Including Henry Fitzroy

[@maia_gaia]

@@ladyofnoxus6733 love that you think that only one woman could be the victim

[@ladyofnoxus6733]

@@maia_gaia I not once said that. But you think what you want.

[@elizabeththequeen57]

@@ladyofnoxus6733 I can agree with you, except for the fact that Anne actually fell victim to either her own or her family's ambition, which have been planted and preserved by her courtly education; that and Cromwell's intrigues, as well as Henry's changeful temper eventually lead to her downfall. It's not like she was free in her choices. She knew there's no way of saying "no" to the king, so she wanted to take advantage of the situation, unlike her sister, but paid an ever bigger price for it than what anyone could have seen it coming. Catherine of Aragon at least had the entire Habsburg Empire rooting for her and threatening Henry with invasion, while Anne was the career ladder for her cousins and relatives for many years and who couldn't even protect her, given they would want to do that for her (which most didn't want to do, they've chosen the safe path). One born privileged, only to lose her privilege based on supposed fertility issues on her part and one guy's opinion; the other being brought up in the ranks for perceived youthfulness and sex appeal, only for it to be used against her and accused of infidelity, despite being innocent (at least evidence now suggests that).

[@Maazzzo]

Please do a part two with Kate, she's amazing.

[@JJONNYREPP]

i'm basically wanting a castle and, maybe, the whole of east anglia, wessex and scotland.

[@Sam-ql4ze]

Interesting fact Anne Boleyn was Queen Katherine's lady in waiting and Jane Seymour was Anne Boleyn's lady in waiting when Henry 8 started to cheat on her. Textbook "How you get them is how you loose them."

[@sidney7129]

I like how she give her comments to these movies in such a simple direct way like we're gossiping with her..

[@no.3royston612]

Loved this! More of Kate please - she's brilliant!

[@graphiquejack]

Henry VIII had only one confirmed illegitimate child by Bessie Blount. He didn’t ‘take care’ of Mary Boleyn’s children and he never acknowledged any as his own. In fact, it was Anne who became Henry Carey’s ward, and she originally helped her sister when she was in a bad financial situation after her first husband died. It’s unlikely, in my view that Mary’s children were Henry’s but I suppose it’s possible her first child, a daughter, was. Just because she named her second child (which almost certainly wasn’t his) Henry means nothing as it was just considered smart policy to name your children after powerful friends and obviously the royal family.

[@TheBeetress]

The myth that Henry father to some of Mary's children is that Henry gave Mary's husband money and/or lands. But Mary's husband was part of his court and many other men granted money and land too. It's interesting that none of those other men's children are similarly thought to be the kings

[@Luanna801]

Very true. The comments about Henry having loads of illegitimate children and loads of mistresses are both inaccurate - or rather, if he did, we have no solid evidence of it. The only confirmed mistresses we know of other than the Boleyns are Bessie Blount and Jane Seymour (before she eventually became his third wife).

[@ladyofnoxus6733]

@@Luanna801 THANK YOU! I was going crazy reading some of these comments and the "historian" didn't bother to help or debunk.

[@thebagelsproductions]

Royal bastards were often openly acknowledged, the name Fitzroy means issue of the king more or less. I'm not sure how universal this was or the historical period this applies to the most. I'm happy to hear details about it

[@Ashbrash1998]

I don't think we will ever know for sure how many bastards Henry had, whether ot was kept secret, he never cared, or the cases of unsure paternity.

[@quimenga]

I love Kate's analysis, reactions, and commentary!! very hilarious and witty, and still informative - i love it

[@Wen1515]

Kate is so watchable and makes history so accessible! Love her!

[@cSquaredFactotum]

Aw, I thought this was a part 2. Since this was originally uploaded I've completely binged her podcast (Betwixt the Sheets). Love her!

[@TheBeetress]

I discovered the podcast first- I'm glad to be able to put a face to the voice

[@moonlily1]

No, you're right about the makeup. Rouge and powder, that's it. Maybe a homemade version of eyebrow pencil and mascara that you wouldn't admit to using. Molly Brown's blue eyeshadow was definitely not a thing.

[@brontewcat]

We do not actually know for how long Mary Boleyn was Henry’s mistress. When Henry was courting Anne, there was a rumour that Henry had slept with Elizabeth Boleyn as well as Mary, I think by an ambassador. When Henry was told of the rumour he reputedly said “Not the mother,” which implicitly admitted to an affair with Mary. Cromwell or Wolsey was with him at the time, and apparently added “Not the sister either.” This implies that the affair was not that well known so as to be possible to cover it up. This suggests it was of relatively short duration.

[@sputnicksteerpike]

"I think I was still doing beer bongs in the park in my early 30s." ... 😂

[@ladyredl3210]

As an amateur Victorianist, this is making me cackle and I haven't even started yet. This historian is fantastic.

[@phoebeel]

She actually wrote a book about the history of sex which is highly entertaining!

[@ladyredl3210]

@@phoebeel thank you! I’m on the hunt now

[@ads2686]

if you like her she also has a podcast called betwixt the sheets that is very funny.

[@ladyredl3210]

@@ads2686 thank you! Yes I love it

[@Henry-dt9ht]

My father and mother worked in museums for most of their lives. My father was a classical Sculptor and did work at the Smithsonian making figures for the various displays and Halls. My mother was a museum curator and was involved in the management of museums. My sister and I or needless to say given an education in natural and human history. One would think that this would be a great advantage and in some cases it was however when you went to a drive-in movie or to any other form of Hollywood entertainment that had anything to do with history most of the time we'd end up laughing at what we were watching because it was so historically inaccurate. So I empathize with her reaction to the movie Titanic you like the movie but historically speaking it's a bomb. For us the movie in question was the Vikings with star and Kirk Douglas. Our family was almost ejected from the drive-in because we were making too much noise laughing and pointing out all the historical errors and untruths that literally flowed from the screen into the car. Was a good thing it was a drive-in.

[@ChiChe555]

I would HONESTLY love to watch movies with you and your family 😅

[@emilyb.8219]

That sounds like an interesting and enriching childhood, I'm jealous!

[@captaincurtains4804]

This woman is awesome. "Alexander, bit of a nonse 🤷‍♀️" Love her ❤️

[@horstyoutube6413]

Came here in hope for a part two. Please make one (or 20, I‘ll watch them) more video with her! Or maybe a double feature with doctor Janega?

[@mattmcguire1577]

There is a double feature. Look up the title - What was sex really like for medieval people?

[@HannahTLee]

Love the commentary and facts dropped throughout. Also, she does and amazing job tying in modern culture references without seeming to try too hard 😂

[@misterhoeflak]

Dear History Hit, give Kate and Eleanor their own series already. 😊

[@Theturtleowl]

I adore Kate. Love the way she talks about herself, history and the movies.

[@LauraLopez-sv4dk]

Kate is just wonderful! Loved this and Betwixt the sheets is fantastic too.

[@sweetmusic3821]

14:40 "Thee up?" 🤣

[@maibouchot9573]

Not the pause to google young Henry!!! 😂🤣😂

[@NoOrdinaryRabbit93]

We need more Katie Lister on the channel, she's brilliant. Love the pod too, look forward to seeing part 2 👌

[@sarahkiernan3358]

I LOVE Kate Lister! More of her please. She should have her own show. Xx

[@christyokie3305]

I love how she has such a sweet reaction to these couples getting it on. It's quite moving. I wish this was the standard reaction because. It's such a loving way for people think of each other--sympathizing with what their hearts are asking for.

[@onemysore6120]

12:00 Hilarious. Love the breaking of the 4th wall bit 😅

[@anthonyhebisen]

The car , the Renault , make and model was absolutely on the RMS Titanic . Its inventory even accounted the vase with the flowers inside the carriage . However , the car was more than likely completely crated and would have been impossible for anyone to enter

[@JJONNYREPP]

surprised she didnt scrutinize the little malcolm film and the inept stance the lads took with a vulnerable woman..... which is kindda the attitude deeply religious males take with women per se - hysterical, to say the least. i have no concet re: the attitude nuns have regards the opposite number... maybeit's of a similar hue - myth and whimsical notions being put into play to erase the inclement thoughts that have been induced?

[@vintagearisen]

Okay so as soon as she said Henry VIII was a fine piece of man in his youth I googled it while leaving the video running and then went back to the tab and the video had accurately predicted my exact behavior, kudos

[@RheverendJ]

Just the thought of lying in bed at 11:30 and hearing my phone go off… “Thee up?” 🤣🤣🤣🤣💀💀💀💀

[@benburkin7942]

I love Kate's videos, always entertaining and enlightening 😎👍

[@TinyJem101]

"but he buckled" just killed me hahahaha

[@killiansirishbeer]

Wow, first video with this historian and she is just great 🤩😂 and so funny!

[@danmay7234]

kate lister is incedible! funny, knowledgable, down to earth... thoroughly enjoy her historical commentary... up the north!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@MrShnier]

Love Kate lister and her sense of humour, please do more videos with her!

[@bodacioustness5054]

Reportedly, Henry had relatively few mistresses by kingly standards and didn't have very many illegitimate kids. He had a loving first marriage. But, who knows - none of us were there. The Other Boleyn Girl was a god awful mess. PS - I love your look, Kate!

[@VoidOfShadows]

Kates a great guest, would love to see more critiques from her!

[@daytonapeanut]

16:11 Thank you. Letting a person like Jack into 1st class at that time would have been the scandal of the century. They would have chucked him overboard before they let that happen!

[@judithweiss6727]

Speaking of Eleanor of Aquitaine .... it would have been fun to rate "The Lion in Winter."

[@BrittanyCocchino]

I could watch this woman do this all, damn, day. What a fully entertaining person to listen to !

[@zachary6706]

We need more of Kate, I loved this video

[@melenatorr]

I believe that the reference to Mary Boleyn being called "great mare" by Francis was reported in 1585 by Nicholas Sandor, who generally wrote in a negative light about Anne Boleyn, spreading the report of her extra finger and other injurious details. I don't think there's any contemporary reference to "great mare" being applied to Mary Boleyn (just like there was no contemporary reference to Anne of Cleves being called the "Flanders Mare"). We have to be careful about these kinds of remarks, when they were applied and by whom.

[@jaymees6637]

Love Kate!! She makes history fun!!

[@katieedwards5926]

“But he buckled.” That’s it, I’m in love.

[@laurahare653]

Oh I love her! Please feature Kate again

[@gemstonesparkle7915]

The searching Henry VIII picture part got me 😂

[@bryan7938]

Brilliant. Very watchable and on point 👏

[@monicavernon2976]

This was such a fantastic show. More please!

[@megansimmons1485]

Kate Lister is a goddamn treasure. I found her books first and this is exactly how I imagined her. 👑🧡👏🏼⭐️ More Kate please!! 🥂🍻

[@kballetk]

I just want to watch this woman reviewing movie scenes forever! 😂❤

[@TomIdelson]

Bless you for pausing and showing us young Henry VIII because I was just about to do it! (for a second there I thought my computer was reading my mind 🤣😂)

[@aliciahowell9617]

Henry’s mistress Bessie Blount gave him a son that somewhat legitimized and later considered marrying to Elizabeth. He gave him a title but he died young.

[@BigHenFor]

I love Kate Lister. She makes social history fun.

[@ukallii]

The car on Titanic would have been in a crate, and likely would have been disassembled. Also, the car would have been in Cargo Hold #2 in the Orlop Deck section, which is not accessible via a door from the boiler rooms. That's Cargo Hold #3, which was not used for any 1st Class baggage. 1st Class baggage had it's old hold next to the mail room and post office on G-Deck and the Orlop Deck, so the entire car sex scene doesn't work.

[@history_loves_anime8927]

It could've been whole. There are ship wrecks in the great lakes that have entire cars assembled at the bottom of Lake Huron.

[@Canuck13]

About the Titanic, James Cameron took artistic license in order to move the characters between the classes. While it’s not accurate, it was more of an illustration of the times.

[@lily21207]

Kate is absolutely amazing! This was hilarious 😂

[@mazzaf7575]

There is one with both of them in! It’s called Medieval Pleasures: What was sex like in the Middle Ages? and it’s on History Hit.

[@jmc7034]

I love the way Kate approach’s this subject. Makes it such a pleasure to watch

[@blinard1]

You should do a historian talking about the history of KZbin channels reuploading videos and simply changing the name.

[@lorencappelson6475]

The guy playing King John is Oscar Isaac! So YES, quite sexy! Even if historically inaccurate.

[@OfficalRichardd]

This was a good video. I laughed so much when she said Alexander was a bit of a nonce lmao

[@VenomHalos]

Regarding Alexander- the Irish accent was very much on purpose! All the Macedonians had Irish accents (to varying degrees… looking at you, Hephaestion 👀) to set them apart from the Greeks in a way that emphasized the sort of “class difference” (not quite that, but idk how else to describe it). Aristotle and the other Greeks have fancy RP accents, and they look down on the Macedonians, who for effect have Irish ones.

[@thebagelsproductions]

I don't think the Irish accents worked at all. They could've indicated the class differential in a number of ways.

[@throughthelookingglass5973]

I agree about the inaccuracies of the Titanic film. The early 1910s were very much about staying in your class. The 1st class would even look down on what they call "new money." Something the film is correct about. James Cameron himself remarked about how he took creative liberties to show the audience all the classes of Titanic and noteworthy rooms because, in the end, the story is about Titanic, its crew members, and passengers. Not the love story of Jack and Rose. EDIT: The car is not inaccurate. It actually existed on Titanic and still was not found in the wreck to this day. I think what Kate was recalling is that only two versions of this car were ever made.

[@alexger85]

kate has quickly become my favourite person on the hh channel ♥

[@MultiCappie]

"He wasn't sexy. He was a redhead." That's an official ouch from me!

[@rickynieves3144]

Rose would have used Jack's body as a lifeboat! 😂😂😂 What a great way to put it! 😂😂😂

[@6Tulips]

Oh my gosh, I listen to Kate on her awesome podcast “Betwixt the sheets” and love it but to have visuals and actually see her, well that was just amazing. Kate is my hero.

[@Henry-dt9ht]

At that time as well as before, the classes were separated by locked Gates. In some cases the gates prevented individuals from saving their their own lives in the event of a sinking. I don't know if this is true with the Titanic itself. Given that this happened on other vessels I would be very much inclined to believe that was the way it was on the Titanic.

[@MorganChaos]

Actually, we know the answer to this. The gates were not routinely locked on the Titanic, though someone did lock them in the source of the evacuation; this did not stop anyone because the gates were only waist-high and easy to jump. The reason so many from lower classes died is because they were not told there was an emergency to get out of bed for until the situation had been ongoing for awhile, and there weren't that many employees assigned to getting third class passengers out of their rooms and moving. But they did get as many third class women and children onto life boats as they could.

[@oneangel77x3]

I love your commentary!

[@fosterfuchs]

"Thee up?" 😂😂😂

[@eliskadvorakova1717]

I think I found my favorite historian right there...

[@richardcanedo1614]

I knew the woman I was dating was the one for me when, while watching Jack's death scene in Titanic and listening to the audience sniffle and stifle sobs around me, I glanced to my right and caught my (now) wife rolling her eyes at the clichéd lines. I am a romantic and I cry at movies readily, but the combination of 1) historical inaccuracies, 2) dramatic clichés and 3) gaping plot holes had just lost it for me as I watched. Examples: 1) In spite of James Cameron's much-trumped boasts of historical accuracy, there are many little things wrong, like women's makeup (as Lister points out), and big things like the way people relate to one another, more like the 1990s than the 1910s, or "steerage" on the maiden voyage of the biggest luxury liner on earth being full of immigrants and their livestock rather than, say, a shopkeeper and his wife going on a 25th anniversary trip -- which is what "steerage" would have been on that ship on that trip. 2) Clichés like Jack's best friend Fabrizio who, having done his character's job of established that Jack is not a weird loner, completely disappears from the movie and its plot, except to reappear momentarily as the ship sinks so that someone we "know" can die; or Jack and Rose being the first couple to have sex in the back seat of a car -- ha, ha!; or almost everyone in first class being catty, nasty, elitist gossips, while those in steerage (none of whom are ever developed as characters) are gregarious and happy. 3) More than a few plot holes (some of which Kate Lister notes -- how did Jack get onto a 1st class deck in the first place?), but the only part of the plot that seemed to make sense to me as I watched was that Rose kept the "Heart of the Ocean" diamond (her family was now poor, remember) and used the money from it to live the wide-ranging life of travel and adventure her photographs indicate she had lived. She then somehow still has the diamond -- so how had she afforded all those things? Then, even though it had plenty of negative "Cal-related" associations for Rose (it was Cal's way of "buying" her as a bride; it was used to frame Jack and lock him up, which is why they ended up freezing in the water; it was technically still Cal's, so stealing it and then hocking it makes perfect sense), Rose nevertheless kept it for 80 years and then for no clear reason throws it "to Jack" in the ocean. Why? He didn't give it to her, and it caused her nothing but trouble, so it would make sense to sell it make a life of adventure possible for someone so poor. Then it became the most honored film (in Academy Award terms) in Hollywood history, tying with Ben-Hur from 1959. Sorry for the rant: Titanic is a visually spectacular movie, and there are good actors (if not performances: I didn't even mention the dialogue or 2-D characters) in it, but the gap between this film's popularity/awards and its flaws, as noted above, just exasperates me.

[@monmothma3358]

Omg you must be my twin soul or something! Titanic came out in my teens, so I was in the target audience (it was _definitely_ made for teens..), AND I am a romantic who cries at everything, but I never liked that movie, and I so vividly remember that feeling of hearing sobs around me, while I roll my eyes, getting annoyed at the terrible script and two-dimensional black-and-white characters. Seriously, that script is so bad. Remember when Rose tells the ship's engineer, Mr Andrews, whom she "happened to" be able to talk to, that she had noticed there didn't seem to be enough life boats? Or when Cal chased the Lovers with a gun, no less (a scene originally intended to be much longer). A few years ago, when the 3D version came out, I decided to give it another chance with my husband, who had never seen it. I ended up apologizing to him as I hadn't remembered exactly how bad it was. I think James Cameron is a bit like George Lucas: He has very specific strengths and weaknesses. He's great at tense action, visual effects, and he doesn't feel threatened by strong females. I love Terminator and Aliens. However, he doesn't really know how humans work. He should stay away from stuff meant to be realistic and/or based on real events. I find it slightly insulting that he imagined a real ship to be full of cartoon heroes and cartoon villains.

[@richardcanedo1614]

We’ll said - and a lot more briefly than I did!

[@MorganChaos]

Re: the first class deck thing, I think the story was that Rose had descended to a lower-class deck, because it was closer to the water and none of her people would think to look for her there. The movie probably doesn't explicitly say so, but I always assumed that was the intent of the writing. (Idk how she got him up to dinner though.)

[@ladyredl3210]

The more history I learn, the more I hate Titanic.

[@potocatepetl]

@@richardcanedo1614 for someone who likes to criticize, you don't seem to have the same expectation of precision from yourself...

[@animerlon]

Not even a minute & a half in & had to comment. The sarcasm is already flowing, i believe this is going to be a very bumpy, but highly entertaining ride. Am totally ready for it. LOL & Carry On.

[@abigruber]

I must know her lipstick colour and brand! And also, more vids with her because she’s unabashed and knows her stuff!

[@vegansrirachamac]

This is my first time seeing this video/channel and I love Kate.

[@elle_rose_xx]

Kate is hilarious bring her back 😂

[@_Kyprioth_]

‘You get your lesbian on’. Love it. Absolutely love it lol

[@GoGreen1977]

As to the Boleyn sisters, Mary most likely was not Henry's mistress "for years." They probably only had a few "encounters" and he married her off when he was tired of her. Anne denied to have sex with Henry until it became more obvious that he was going to divorce Katherine by breaking from Rome. They most likely didn't have sex until the latter part of 1532. And no, there's no certainty that Henry had "lots" of illegitimate children. Also, claims that Anne made fun of Henry's sexual prowess were probably false, made up by her enemies to strengthen the charges against her when Henry wanted her gone.

[@ladyethyme]

Honestly he was pretty restrained compared to most other medieval monarchs.

[@monmothma3358]

I knew it! She might be an expert but not specifically on Tudor history, I don't think. Anne didn't "bang" Catherine's husband while being her lady-in-waiting, because Anne refused to until marriage or right before, that was the whole point. I also had the impression the affair with Mary was brief. Incidentally, Catherine was not dark-haired. I've never heard "The Other Boleyn Girl" getting graded this highly before lol

[@monmothma3358]

@@ladyethyme Or did he simply have trouble biologically fathering living children? There are some theories about that. I've never heard him described as restrained, though I know you mean relatively.

[@tsarina24honolulu87]

Source?

[@GoGreen1977]

@@tsarina24honolulu87 Are you referring to my comments? I've been studying English history since I could read, which was several decades ago. I've had a particular interest in Tudor history and I've read many nonfiction books on the subject and have watched documentaries from some of the most respected Tudor historians. I've done most of my research long before there was an Internet, too. I did real research the old-fashioned way, using well-researched books and other sources from libraries and bookstores.

[@JBunny7482]

I need more of her!!!!

[@theorderofthebees7308]

‘Rose would have used Jack”s body as a Life boat” 😂😂😂

[@lonesomevalkyrie]

Love Kate's videos and podcast!

[@luisaalmonte1157]

I can’t get enough of this lady 😂😂😂

[@DanBrown96]

21:16 I mean, technically, Rose DID use Jack as a life preserver, the poor sod! Lol

[@DiabolicDistortion]

Lol, the 3 AM "thee up?"text

[@martinwillis9601]

Knobbing in a car.😂😂😂 brilliant.

[@SofiaGonzalezMusic]

i never knew I had a dream job until now to be honest. Kate is amazing

[@Kiki-cs8xv]

Would Rose and Jack have got together? Putting aside the question of whether they would have met, the Titanic sinking was only 16 years before Lady Chatterley's Lover was published. The story was controversial because it's about an English Lady in an unhappy marriage, then having an affair with her gamekeeper. So yes, there was some awareness at the time that the aristocracy sometimes ran off with the serving classes.

[@sitcomchristian6886]

I've read the book. The affair is a slow burn, not a sudden whirlwind like Jack and Rose. It's really one of the most incredible novels about depression I've ever read.

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Ah god bless ya, Kate! You’re always a fun time ❤️

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more of Kate!! fascinating.

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Amazing, love the historian, she is a queen

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Your hair is amazing!!!! I think you need to do a video on how you get your hair to look like that. I've been trying for years.

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Bleach and perm

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Love Kate and Betwixt the Sheets!

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When it comes to historical figures and their personal relationships We must remember the context that these relationships . We can't use our modern day biases and our modern day moralities. Even from one contemporary civilization to another Cultural differences or tremendous compared to our and it's near global civilization. Misinterpreting ancient relationships causes A misrepresentation and intent Of individuals in those personal relationships at that time.

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