Historian reviews True Grit - More accurate, John Wayne or Jeff Bridges? | TWH62

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@Christian_Prepper
@Christian_Prepper 10 ай бұрын
*Glen Campbell sucked as an actor.* *There. I said what every pro knows.* The 2010 was much greater than the 1969 due to overall better acting and authentic feeling.
@bobsteadman9728
@bobsteadman9728 10 ай бұрын
It was sacrilegious to attempt a remake of an John Wayne movie.
@Bronte55
@Bronte55 10 ай бұрын
@@bobsteadman9728 Nonsense. John Wayne was an actor, not a god.
@Bronte55
@Bronte55 10 ай бұрын
@@Christian_Prepper Agreed. The 2010 was a better movie. Matt Damon was superb. Hailee Steinberg and Jeff Bridges were excellent. The cinematography was superior. Both the beginning and ending of the movie were far better.
@frankpienkosky5688
@frankpienkosky5688 10 ай бұрын
it just had more "grit"....John Wayne has made better films....his version of "The Alamo", for example....pales in comparison to the newer version....definitely deserved an oscar for "The Shootist" though......@@Christian_Prepper
@ribcagesteak
@ribcagesteak Жыл бұрын
Both versions add and subtract scenes relative to the book. In the book, Mattie, Rooster, and LaBoeuf stay together as depicted in the 1969 film. The 2010 film depiction of the party splitting is actually a departure from the book. The 2010 film ending is the more accurate ending however. Bear Man is an invention of the 2010 film. LaBoeuf lives in the book like in 2010 version. Overall, I like the 2010 version better. The 1969 does a great job at portraying the classic adventure story where the characters go through adversity yet still prevail in the end. The 2010 version, much like the book, presents a more ambiguous message with questionable ethics, morality, and consequences. The book is narrated from Mattie's perspective and it is clear that she is no ordinary girl and such a character will not live an ordinary life. Her toughness, determination, wit, and "headstrong ways" drive both her successes and failures. She is book smart yet naive. She is courageous yet reckless. She gets her revenge but suffers great cost. The 2010 script and performance from Hailee Steinfeld (who is truly the heart and soul of the film) captures this brilliantly. While I enjoyed the upbeat tone of the 1969 version, I found the 2010 version more thought provoking and emotionally moving (especially the ending scene on the horse which pretty much wrecked me in ways the 1969 version could not).
@WalkwithHistory
@WalkwithHistory Жыл бұрын
Those are such great points. I will definitely need to read the book sometime…both movies are so good 😊
@1N2themystic
@1N2themystic 11 ай бұрын
I'm curious if you're referring to the part when he used his knife to prod the horse to run another mile or two before it died. Cause that was a powerful, thought provoking moment.
@jamesschmidlin1127
@jamesschmidlin1127 11 ай бұрын
Yeah, I would suggest in future film reviews based upon books that you do read the book prior to doing the film review. I thought it strange that you would do a film review on a film that’s based upon a novel without reading the book it’s based up. I understand you were doing a movie comparison of the two movies, but by reading the book first you can give a review of which movie portrayed the feel of the novel better. Plus, I was a bit confused with the title of your pod cast. I immediately think you’d be looking at historical movies based upon actual historical events and people, not fictional novels.
@jamesschmidlin1127
@jamesschmidlin1127 11 ай бұрын
Yeah, I would suggest in future film reviews based upon books that you do read the book prior to doing the film review. I thought it strange that you would do a film review on a film that’s based upon a novel without reading the book it’s based up. I understand you were doing a movie comparison of the two movies, but by reading the book first you can give a review of which movie portrayed the feel of the novel better. Plus, I was a bit confused with the title of your pod cast. I immediately think you’d be looking at historical movies based upon actual historical events and people, not fictional novels.
@jamesschmidlin1127
@jamesschmidlin1127 11 ай бұрын
Yeah, I would suggest in future film reviews based upon books that you do read the book prior to doing the film review. I thought it strange that you would do a film review on a film that’s based upon a novel without reading the book it’s based up. I understand you were doing a movie comparison of the two movies, but by reading the book first you can give a review of which movie portrayed the feel of the novel better. Plus, I was a bit confused with the title of your pod cast. I immediately think you’d be looking at historical movies based upon actual historical events and people, not fictional novels.
@tedbrittingham8707
@tedbrittingham8707 11 ай бұрын
Campbell was a monster guitarist not just a country singer. The man was admired by every guitarist alive. Recorded with the Beach Boys. A pop singer with huge hit songs. TV show. Not just a country singer folks. Do your homework. Campbell was a legend.
@WalkwithHistory
@WalkwithHistory 11 ай бұрын
I appreciate that and respect that but I never heard of him before seeing him in True Grit.
@tedhardulak7698
@tedhardulak7698 11 ай бұрын
I love him doing the 1812 Overture. Never better. I am confident that most opinions are swayed by age on here. Anyone that has not heard of one of the greatest Guitarists EVER is missing a lot. I meant the William Tell Overture.
@jamespohl-md2eq
@jamespohl-md2eq 11 ай бұрын
He was not a pop singer w huge hit songs. Lol
@scmrjim
@scmrjim 11 ай бұрын
Truth. Glen Campbell was a legend.
@paulwiggins183
@paulwiggins183 11 ай бұрын
Just not much of an actor.
@jonmathis
@jonmathis 11 ай бұрын
The novel by Charles Portis, with its rich and colorful language, is the real star. A must read!
@WalkwithHistory
@WalkwithHistory 11 ай бұрын
Sounds cool!! 😎
@christhompson3750
@christhompson3750 10 ай бұрын
Good book
@jaylambert2187
@jaylambert2187 10 ай бұрын
Couldn’t agree more. And for another great Western novel that led to a John Wayne role, try The Shootist by Glendon Swarthout. Much more somber but compelling. It was John Wayne’s last movie and something of an homage to his career.
@merriemisfit8406
@merriemisfit8406 9 ай бұрын
I picked it up either at a school library purge or a thrift store in the 1980s. But I still read it BEFORE I saw the 1969 film version.
@nomadmarauder-dw9re
@nomadmarauder-dw9re 6 ай бұрын
​@@merriemisfit8406I first read it serialized in Redbook. 13 years old.
@susantownsend8397
@susantownsend8397 11 ай бұрын
Glenn Cambell was an enormously popular country music singer when the movie was made. He was also one of the best 12-string guitar players ever.
@WalkwithHistory
@WalkwithHistory 11 ай бұрын
Now we must listen to his stuff. Thank you for watching and the suggestion!
@ministerofdarkness
@ministerofdarkness 11 ай бұрын
Agreed! I’ve got his all instrumental guitar album that’s friggin awesome! PLAY LOUD
@marksman48
@marksman48 10 ай бұрын
He was a bona fide member of the Wrecking Crew, a group of studio musicians who played on many of the hits of the 60's.
@vickyanddanforever
@vickyanddanforever 10 ай бұрын
But True Grit was a movie.....and Campbell was laughingly bad in it.
@randynutt5660
@randynutt5660 9 ай бұрын
I read somewhere that John Wayne loved the singing style of Glen Campbell, and wanted him to do the musical score. Campbell agreed, and requested he be IN the movie as part of his fee. Good call. The 'One Day, Little Girl' song is pure Campbell legend!
@Redmenace96
@Redmenace96 11 ай бұрын
"one would be as unpleasant as the other" is pure gold
@WalkwithHistory
@WalkwithHistory 11 ай бұрын
😂 Yes!
@donollerton4809
@donollerton4809 10 ай бұрын
matte gets the best lines in this story. Not a supporting character but the lead
@frankpienkosky5688
@frankpienkosky5688 10 ай бұрын
yep!...whole movie is built around her@@donollerton4809
@frankpienkosky5688
@frankpienkosky5688 10 ай бұрын
this movie is built around her@@donollerton4809
@paulbattaglia5861
@paulbattaglia5861 7 ай бұрын
Also "Now here's what I have to say about that 😊saddle" after the negotiation.
@davidbradley3735
@davidbradley3735 11 ай бұрын
John Wayne's version is a classic. The Cohen Brothers is a master piece!!!
@WalkwithHistory
@WalkwithHistory 11 ай бұрын
That’s a great way of putting it 😊
@animalntelligence3170
@animalntelligence3170 11 ай бұрын
I would suggest that the 1969 inspired the Coen brothers. What a great thing that Portis lived to see both movies, clearly based on his brilliant writing -- the book is a great pleasure.
@davidbradley3735
@davidbradley3735 11 ай бұрын
@animalntelligence3170 the book did. They followed it much, much closer
@peterpellechia5985
@peterpellechia5985 11 ай бұрын
Coen brothers version is hood but overrated!!!
@peterpellechia5985
@peterpellechia5985 11 ай бұрын
Good
@sagecreekgus7779
@sagecreekgus7779 11 ай бұрын
A little known fact is that one of the three men hanged in the 1969 version was played by Jay Silverheels the Lone Ranger's sidekick Tonto.
@Gerald-do9yg
@Gerald-do9yg 10 ай бұрын
Never heard that one before! Wish they had given him a bigger part, Jay was a good actor and man! Miss him and Clay Moore, need more roll models like them!
@frankpienkosky5688
@frankpienkosky5688 10 ай бұрын
has a decent part in Captain From Castile@@Gerald-do9yg
@thedynamicsolo4232
@thedynamicsolo4232 9 ай бұрын
I have never seen the Dukes FULL version, but the Jeff Bridges adaptation was really endearing. It seems like that is a more appropriate use of language, settings and the wardrobe, voice, cinematography were fantastic. No disrespect to the original, but I prefer the later adaptation. Matt Damon as LaBeuf is a memorable figure as is Mattie Ross, we all knew that "know it all" girl at 14 and she epitomizes that. The B players were great too. The defense attorney was fantastic, the role of the auctioneer was so well played also. Barry Pepper really shined.
@CarDocBabaPhilipo
@CarDocBabaPhilipo 11 ай бұрын
Before he became John Wayne, he was originally signed on a movie because he was good on a horse. This was when he was young and had been working on a ranch so he was skilled horseman. My mother met him in the lobby of our hotel in Miami in 73. He was giving out signed 3x5 pics with the gospel on the back. I still have that photo with his signature to my Mom n Dad.
@WalkwithHistory
@WalkwithHistory 11 ай бұрын
That is awesome. John Wayne’s signature is still worth a fair amount too.
@ThomasCranmer1959
@ThomasCranmer1959 9 ай бұрын
John Wayne was one of my favorite stars. He was a die hard patriot and conservative.
@halwhitman7230
@halwhitman7230 11 ай бұрын
Charles Portis is considered one of the masters of dialogue. The 2010 version stays truer to old timey feel of Portis' work. Also, I've heard that after John Wayne won the Oscar, Portis sent him a drawing he'd made of Rooster that portrayed him a slovenly drunk in long johns, in other words exactly as Jeff Bridges is presented in the back of the store at the beginning.
@brettmuir5679
@brettmuir5679 10 ай бұрын
The 1969 version is nearly verbatim from the book Why the Coen's thought they could improve on a masterpiece is called falling flat
@mikegillettify
@mikegillettify 10 ай бұрын
@@brettmuir5679negative; the 2010 version is slightly truer. Wayne version says LeBeouff died. In the book he did not. That’s a major change. I like the Wayne version alot. I have no problem if you didn’t like 2010, but to call it flat on it’s face because it didn’t stick to the book is an inaccuracy.
@Gerald-do9yg
@Gerald-do9yg 10 ай бұрын
Don't you remember the scene in the back of Chin Lees' store in the '69 film?
@chuckschilling4964
@chuckschilling4964 9 ай бұрын
The Coens have the best feel for dialogue of any filmmakers - ever. True Grit is typical of their mastery of this art.
@nomadmarauder-dw9re
@nomadmarauder-dw9re 6 ай бұрын
​@@Gerald-do9ygThe best 3 minutes of character development ever. That one bit tells us all we need to know about Cogburn.
@davidhudson7880
@davidhudson7880 10 ай бұрын
The Duke vs The Dude...love it!
@WalkwithHistory
@WalkwithHistory 10 ай бұрын
LOL. I love that. 🤘♥️Thank you for watching
@robertfloyd4287
@robertfloyd4287 9 ай бұрын
IMHO, John Wayne is one of the most overrated actors of his generation.
@robertmarvos9451
@robertmarvos9451 9 ай бұрын
lol
@johnbrown5565
@johnbrown5565 9 ай бұрын
@@robertfloyd4287 Jeff Bridges has more acting talent in his little finger than the Duke in all 200 + pounds.
@williamlopez8676
@williamlopez8676 9 ай бұрын
@@robertfloyd4287 That may be true. But, in The Longest Day, he put in one of the best pieces of non-verbal acting on film IMO. In the scene where he orders the bodies of dead paratroopers still hanging from trees and telephone poles cut down , the emotions depicted on his face without words are nothing short of remarkable.
@lloydandfriends4161
@lloydandfriends4161 11 ай бұрын
In the 2010 version, Ned was played by Barry Pepper.
@WalkwithHistory
@WalkwithHistory 11 ай бұрын
Yup! We corrected ourselves in the video description
@jamestaylor8000
@jamestaylor8000 10 ай бұрын
Thank you! and 2010 10 of 10 1969 7 of 10 at best
@puzzleheaddesign3789
@puzzleheaddesign3789 10 ай бұрын
Was about to point this out also. Ben was in another western from the same era I can't remember the title.
@WalkwithHistory
@WalkwithHistory 10 ай бұрын
@@puzzleheaddesign3789 I think it was 310 to Yuma (another movie we should review!)
@puzzleheaddesign3789
@puzzleheaddesign3789 10 ай бұрын
@@WalkwithHistory yes. Russell Crowe. Good movie.
@avantegarde7797
@avantegarde7797 10 ай бұрын
".....backward; I always go backward when I'm backin up !" Always loved that line.
@williamcantwell4545
@williamcantwell4545 9 ай бұрын
Bridges vocal affectation completely takes you out of the experience.
@SmithW-er5do
@SmithW-er5do 10 ай бұрын
Favorite quote: "I KNOW you can wallow in filth and bemoan your station..."
@Bluebuthappy182
@Bluebuthappy182 Жыл бұрын
It's hard to pick between the two movies to be honest. Each has elements that stand out above the other. Guess we are just lucky to have two great interpretations of this novel.
@WalkwithHistory
@WalkwithHistory Жыл бұрын
Agree!! 😁
@dennismood7476
@dennismood7476 11 ай бұрын
Watching both movies a number of times myself, I found I liked them both for different reasons. I think the 2010 was a better movie, while the characters in the 1969 version were more fun to watch, with the exception of Kim Darby, who I think was a poor acting choice. I think she would have ben better in a different part. She didn't seem to actually fit the role well, and didn't belong in the era.
@mikegillettify
@mikegillettify 10 ай бұрын
@@dennismood7476part of the reason might be that Darby was a 20 something years old woman who was pregnant or had just given birth to play a 14 years old girl.
@dennismood7476
@dennismood7476 10 ай бұрын
@@mikegillettify That wasn't my issue with her in the part. My issue with her was I didn't like her acting. Since she was older than her character was supposed to be, I thought she played it poorly. Maybe it had something to do with her vocal inflections that made her seem more out of place.
@Kendrix1
@Kendrix1 9 ай бұрын
​@@dennismood7476I agree her acting is stilted and amateurish but John Wayne is so incredible it makes up for other actor's short comings
@shawnwhite2120
@shawnwhite2120 Жыл бұрын
Just finished watching true grit for the sixth time 10 minutes ago the Cohen brothers version is a masterpiece
@WalkwithHistory
@WalkwithHistory Жыл бұрын
It is so good, but I just love the Duke so much!!!
@austinsmith3493
@austinsmith3493 11 ай бұрын
lol its ass
@austinsmith3493
@austinsmith3493 11 ай бұрын
cohen remake sucks
@shawnwhite2120
@shawnwhite2120 11 ай бұрын
@@austinsmith3493 That mug of yours sucks to
@artwerksDallas
@artwerksDallas 11 ай бұрын
Grow up ​@@austinsmith3493
@chrisdeason27
@chrisdeason27 11 ай бұрын
For me i like them both for different reasons and if a movie brings you joy it did it's job. Both movies did that for me and i have happily watched them both many times.
@WalkwithHistory
@WalkwithHistory 11 ай бұрын
Yes!
@fred5399
@fred5399 11 ай бұрын
same here but the 2010 version is closer to the book. But the 1969 version oh the last sceen when Wayne and his horse jumps the four rail fence that's the way I want to remember wayne.
@brettmuir5679
@brettmuir5679 10 ай бұрын
​@@fred5399you people who persist in claiming the 2010 version is "truer to the book" drive me crazy. The 1969 movie is nearly verbatim from the book and is funny as hell. The Coen's added so much drivel that unfunnied it way out of their league. They were drunk off of their success and full of their genius after No Country (I believe)
@tr5947
@tr5947 10 ай бұрын
Two great movies with great performances. The "fill your hand" scene with Wayne still gives me chills, and Jeff Bridges is sublime as a more gritty version of the same character. What I found really poignant about the ending is while Maddie never married, claiming to haven't had time for such a thing, her wistful remembrance of LeBoeuf's cowlick points to him as being the person who captured her heart. You guys did a wonderful job on the history and overall presentation.
@WalkwithHistory
@WalkwithHistory 10 ай бұрын
Thank you! 😁🙌🏻
@chuckschilling4964
@chuckschilling4964 9 ай бұрын
The Coens trust the audience to draw their own conclusions in this and many other aspects of their films. They respect their audience and don't patronize us by crossing every "t" and dotting every "i" and letting us think for ourselves.
@seantlewis376
@seantlewis376 9 ай бұрын
I read the novel in the mid-70s after seeing the movie. Reading the novel, I thought the 1969 movie was a very good adaptation. I did not ask for a remake 40 years later, but the remake was also very good, and some people prefer it. One of the great things about the novel and the movies is the use of colloquial western slang. All the language used is absolutely the way people spoke in the late 19th Century. "Fill your hand, you son of a bitch!" That's totally the way a marshal would talk in 1880s West. In 1969, John Wayne was 62 years old, and when he says, "Well come see a fat old man sometime," a lot of people thought this movie would be his swan song. His real swan song was "The Shootist" with Lauren Bacall and Ron Howard several years later, and in my opinion, was the perfect send off for such a movie legend. By the way, he and I shared a birthday, and when I was turning 9, I wrote him a letter inviting him to my birthday party. I got a very nice hand-written letter declining, saying that he already had plans with his own kids. I wish I still had that letter.
@PatrolOfficer161
@PatrolOfficer161 11 ай бұрын
When "True Grit" was made in 1969 (Like "The Searchers"), it was altered from the novel to be a "John Wayne" movie. The novella "True Grit" by Portis was about Mattie Ross with Rooster Cogburn in it. "The Searchers" was about the young boy searching for his kidnapped sister and Ethan Edwards (the John Wayne movie character) was in it. Both movies were hits but the later "Grit" movie was more accurate from the novel.
@edmundcharles5278
@edmundcharles5278 11 ай бұрын
No- The Searchers was solely about the character that Job Wayne played - a relentless, vengeance-driven man driven to the point of psychosis for the Indian leader who killed his family and kidnapped his Neice. The hatred consumed Ethan and it’s only in the end that he discovers his humanity and compassion.
@ericdry8850
@ericdry8850 11 ай бұрын
Glenn Campbell was from Arkansas. So was Johnny Cash. Both versions are replete with references to Arkansas.
@WalkwithHistory
@WalkwithHistory 11 ай бұрын
That is cool! We are moving closer to Arkansas and may have to do an episode on Glen Campbell to make up for our ignorance.
@johntalley6028
@johntalley6028 11 ай бұрын
I’m a distant cousin of Dan Blocker (Hoss from Bonanza) and the grandson of a Southern Baptist minister who LOVED westerns. We’d watch Gunsmoke every day when I was a kid together and watched the 1969 version together. My grandfather passed in 2000. When the 2010 version came out, I felt a nostalgia and a duty to see it. The soundtrack of the 2010 being all themed on old Baptist hymns tied it all up into a neat bow for me. BOTH movies are fantastic. It’s what our world needed in 69 and today… a few more men with TRUE GRIT.
@WalkwithHistory
@WalkwithHistory 11 ай бұрын
Ok. This is going to blow your mind. Scotts great grandpa was prop master on Bonanza. He did every episode. We have pictures of his great grandfather with the entire crew and cast. Pictures personally signed etc. Small world. Thank you for watching and commenting.
@petermcgill1315
@petermcgill1315 10 ай бұрын
I’m a big fan of Dirk’s work in Brooklyn 99.
@Ben-tr
@Ben-tr 10 ай бұрын
Was Dan from New mexico?
@johntalley6028
@johntalley6028 10 ай бұрын
That side of the Blocker family was from Texas. His folks ran a grocery store.
@Ben-tr
@Ben-tr 10 ай бұрын
@@johntalley6028 ty,I'm from New Mexico thought he was also
@Brian-uy2tj
@Brian-uy2tj 9 ай бұрын
If you look at the list of movies and their gross earnings from 1969 5:12 the list reads like a who's who of great movies from the 60's that tested the censors. That was an amazing year for movies and most of those movies still hold up today.
@charliewelshans3301
@charliewelshans3301 9 ай бұрын
Are yall on drugs the cinematography and sweeping scenery in the original is amazing
@WalkwithHistory
@WalkwithHistory 9 ай бұрын
Cinematography is great in both 😊
@michaelm7
@michaelm7 10 ай бұрын
The academy awards with John Wayne really shows how Hollywood has changed from a place of stars to so many straining to recreate what was once a magic landscape and now struggles to regain its relevance.
@sonnysantana5454
@sonnysantana5454 5 ай бұрын
the only reason that they gave wayne an oscar was that he stepped out of character he played an old fat haft blind drunk and that's something that wayne never did before
@Coco-oy5sm
@Coco-oy5sm 28 күн бұрын
or are you referring to the '73 oscars when he tried to assault a woman
@SatansSimgma
@SatansSimgma 15 күн бұрын
You sound old and tired
@hermiesnow6947
@hermiesnow6947 11 ай бұрын
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@WalkwithHistory
@WalkwithHistory 10 ай бұрын
Cool. Thanks for sharing and for watching.
@JohnPatterson-kz8jr
@JohnPatterson-kz8jr 10 ай бұрын
The Sharp's was favored by Buffalo hunters.😮😅
@JohnPatterson-kz8jr
@JohnPatterson-kz8jr 10 ай бұрын
When Texas Ranger Captain Leander McNelly cleaned up the Nueces Strip,he issued his men Sharp's carbines instead of Winchrster 73"s.😮😅😊
@JohnPatterson-kz8jr
@JohnPatterson-kz8jr 10 ай бұрын
Don't forget Tom Selleck using a big 50 Sharp's in"Quigley Down Under".😮😅
@hermiesnow6947
@hermiesnow6947 10 ай бұрын
@@JohnPatterson-kz8jr the reason brought up the sharp rifle was for dating that the 1980's be the time period guess was rt when the movie was taking place- since the host said was in the the late 1980's the gun in fact help place the timeline as correct-
@johncunningham8798
@johncunningham8798 Жыл бұрын
I enjoyed your dissection of the 2 movies. My personal favorite was the 1969 version. Glen Campbell was a really big star in 1969, he had his own variety show and many top hits. Also, arguably the best guitar player in the world and yet couldn’t read music. Picked everything up by ear. He was a part of the “The Wrecking Crew”. They were session musicians who played on all of the big hits in the 60’s. He was so good that he replaced one of The Beach Boys on a tour, I believe that it was Brian Wilson. He had to learn their catalog in a matter of days to start the tour. My mother was a big Glen Campbell fan and I remember her taking me and my sister to the Bellair Theater in Houston to see True Grit in 1969. I was all of 6 years old at the time.
@WalkwithHistory
@WalkwithHistory Жыл бұрын
Campbell was definitely a very talented singer and musician. I also think his acting was pretty good, he definitely made me feel for his character.
@captainhowlerwilson508
@captainhowlerwilson508 11 ай бұрын
I prefer the remake far more because it was truer to the source material being so much darker and depressing, which these kinds of stories should be, because revenge does not make anything better.
@deanpennington2961
@deanpennington2961 10 ай бұрын
I liked the Wrecking Crew's video, that's where I found out Campbell, Brian Wilson, ans others were having an unseen role I never knew of. I was offended that someone had the nerve to remake the movie and had no interest in seeing it, but it was a better movie, and the Coen Brothers listened more to the book's author. I liked Wayne better than this in his last movie.
@brettmuir5679
@brettmuir5679 10 ай бұрын
​@@captainhowlerwilson508I doubt you read the book. The original is nearly verbatim. All the screen writer did was lift the lines
@captainhowlerwilson508
@captainhowlerwilson508 10 ай бұрын
@@brettmuir5679 Yes. I read the book, and the dialogue and tone is not completely verbatum in John Wayne’s version, whereas in the Coens’ version the tone is pretty much that of the book with the exception of the Bear Man.
@scottspooner6070
@scottspooner6070 9 ай бұрын
The fact that someone had the balls to remake this kills me. How creative.
@ironwood4645
@ironwood4645 9 ай бұрын
It's always hard to compare 2 versions of a movie when so much time has passed between the two. I liked the 2010 version (i always liked Jeff) but I think the 1969 version edges it out as the better movie. Maybe because it was so iconic and I might have gone in with pre-conceived expectations. But I am glad they made it.
@matthewshannon6946
@matthewshannon6946 9 ай бұрын
I was aghast they were going to remake it. It turned out Great!!
@Urapnes75
@Urapnes75 8 ай бұрын
why would you be upset by this? The remake was superior. Better actors, better directors, better realism, better tone, better cinematography, better....everything.
@danieparriott265
@danieparriott265 8 ай бұрын
Because remakes almost always ruin a great story. This one improved it. @@Urapnes75
@ehmunro
@ehmunro 10 ай бұрын
I will say that I prefer the 1969 version because the character was meant to be larger than life and John Wayne embodies that. Jeff Bridges is a great actor, but he doesn't do larger than life with the same flair.
@WalkwithHistory
@WalkwithHistory 10 ай бұрын
Well said!!! Thank you for watching.
@jplifesong
@jplifesong 10 ай бұрын
I think the 2010 version is SO much better….and honestly a large part of it for me is Bridges performance over Wayne’s. I think Bridges is a master at these kinds of roles and brings an edgy factor that it needs for me.
@wagonmaster1974
@wagonmaster1974 9 ай бұрын
I'll bet Jeff knows to use "roles" to describe what he does, too. "Rolls" are what he eats...
@jplifesong
@jplifesong 9 ай бұрын
@@wagonmaster1974 lol. I’m sure glad we have a perfect person within our midst named wagonmaster1974 who has never made a communication mistake in his life. :). That’s awesome. You may be old but you are definitely an inspiration to all the rest of us here…even despite the obvious ultrasensitive/easily bothered butthurt mentality in regard to someone else’s opinion on movies. Lol Want me to change my movie opinion so you don’t feel as offended? And also I promise to strive for perfection in all future communications. I hope this helps you to heal. We need your continued monitoring. Thanks!
@wagonmaster1974
@wagonmaster1974 9 ай бұрын
@@jplifesong No offense here. Just having a bit of fun with a common spelling/usage goof. Happy to be of service.
@ejaedike
@ejaedike 5 ай бұрын
@@wagonmaster1974 Great to know you're not the one: who's offended, obliviously ultra-sensitive/bothered and "butt-Hurt..."
@melenatorr
@melenatorr 11 ай бұрын
Absolutely: the one with the true grit is Mattie - the drive and the passion is hers: Rooster wouldn't even have bothered to leave town without her refusal to take no for an answer, and her insistence on coming along. It irks me just a little that, in both adaptations of this novel, people give most of the attention to the established star being cast as Rooster when the story is really Mattie's. (I like both versions; having grown up with the 1969 version, I have a stronger attachment to it, but both are very good. The novel is very much worth reading: you meet a lot of historical figures in passing, and in addition to the quirky writing style, there's a nice variety of humor, going from dry to twisted).
@larryyeadeke2953
@larryyeadeke2953 9 ай бұрын
But Mattie makes Rooster the main story. She wants only him to help her. Once she brings him in, his persona takes over.
@melenatorr
@melenatorr 9 ай бұрын
@@larryyeadeke2953 Thanks for this excellent comment and observation! I'm going to argue it.... Mattie may not be as strong a persona as Rooster, but for me, she never ceases to be the driving force behind keeping the quest going. She has focus and concentration, and a determination to see her father avenged. She is the one who finds Chaney in the end, and she is a motivator to Rooster's stronger but easily dissapated (sp) energies to remain where she needs them. It's true that both movies cast a larger than life actor to enliven Rooster, but for me, Mattie remains the center and focus (if Rooster is Jupiter, Mattie is still the central sun that pulls everything into the orbit of the story).
@danieparriott265
@danieparriott265 8 ай бұрын
Only in the 1969 version. Kim Darby just didn't have the grit. Hailee Steinfeld did. @@larryyeadeke2953
@charlespolk5221
@charlespolk5221 9 ай бұрын
Having grown up in Arkansas in Russellville, about 5 miles north of Dardenelle and Yell county. I can tell you that the look of the terrain (hint, Mt. Nebo DOES NOT have snow on it) in the 2010 version is perfect. The 2010 version is, hands down far, far better.
@silkroadcaravan
@silkroadcaravan 8 ай бұрын
Wayne may be a slightly better Rooster, but Mattie is the central character, and Hailee Steinfeld's 2010 performance is truly astounding: as far as I'm concerned, by herself she basically clowned the entire 1969 cast. ...and I saw both films in theaters on their first runs. The '69 was terrific but for me the 2010 absolutely takes the prize. In '69 I was a very young anti-war activist, and Wayne was, to me, a sorry remnant of the 'my country, right or wrong' crowd and was only iconic of mindless rah-rah 'patriotism'. His performance, and his willingness to take on a morally-ambiguous role, won my respect, but not by much. Ultimately for me, the 2010 version was Hailee Steinfeld's film, and she crushed it
@newfertelizer
@newfertelizer Ай бұрын
I loved both movies but tip of the cap to 1969. The True Grit song tells quite a story it reminds me that "Few Battles are Won Alone" Often a traumatized person needs to find a person with True Grit to join them in battle. The rat writ written for a rat scene was key and left out of the 2010 version. The rat was told to git and the writ was delivered with deadly force and the Mattie had no problem disposing hands on of the body. Amazing writing and amazing acting and what character development.
@WalkwithHistory
@WalkwithHistory Ай бұрын
lol. Love the rat writ scene. 😂
@longnamenocansayy
@longnamenocansayy 11 ай бұрын
true grit is a movie about 3 characters that each one of them had true grit. a little girl born and raised in those times certainly rose to expectations that the times demanded of her. she was proud to be able to contribute to the family, even if it was 50c a day helping out at the neighbors farm. and she often times looked forward to the day when she could move to a factory and work full time; sending money back home as needed. such things rarely worked out any better than the thousands of young men who set out to find their fortunes in the gold fields of california. i found the whole thing to be very believable. i liked the part where john wayne confessed to doing a little bank robbing, and ended up marshalling in the indian territory. i think the exact lines got blurry sometimes between who was the good guy and who was bad guy in those times.
@WalkwithHistory
@WalkwithHistory 11 ай бұрын
I love that part too bc in the end they all have True Grit which I believe is a rare virtue in life!!
@summerlakephotog8239
@summerlakephotog8239 11 ай бұрын
As a former buckaroo/ranch hand the 2010 version is far less Hollywood and far more authentic as pertains to dress, gear, horsemanship and speech. This authenticity is very important to people who have lived the life. Wayne worked with cowboys on film ranches but they had developed a less historical look popularized in 50s westerns.
@WalkwithHistory
@WalkwithHistory 11 ай бұрын
Very true. Roy Rodgers and his sparkling shirts really did nothing to help the idea people had of cowboys. I agree the 2010 version is much more authentic. I do still like the look of the 50-60s westerns though as they embrace a look that is their own!!! The Searchers will always be my favorite western of all time!!
@danielyoung5137
@danielyoung5137 11 ай бұрын
It was noted that the first film was a classic and the second was a masterpiece. Exactly so. The first had a Frank Capra-sized layer of sentiment in the script missing in the second. Its best scene comes when Rooster gallantly pulls the injured girl up in his arms after whipping her horse to death and staggering off to find help. Wayne won his Oscar right there. But in the remake, Bridges shooting of a gun and collapsing on the girl while groaning “l am grown old” in the thickening snowfall left sentiment behind and echoed the dark bloody truths of the story unforgettably.
@deanpennington2961
@deanpennington2961 10 ай бұрын
I like Wayne, but that was a pitty Oscar "saluting an Oscar-worthy career." Wayne could have won an Oscar the old fashioned way in The Searchers, or Red River. My 2¢
@brettmuir5679
@brettmuir5679 10 ай бұрын
​@@deanpennington2961I wonder how and when Harrison Ford is gunna get his "Pitty Oscar"?
@chuckschilling4964
@chuckschilling4964 9 ай бұрын
Not to mention a terrible Hollywood soundtrack in the 1969 film. The scoring in the Coen brothers' masterpiece is, as is per their usual, incredibly well chosen and executed.
@JayAr709
@JayAr709 8 ай бұрын
@@chuckschilling4964Iris DeMent’s authentic voice was a thoughtful, if unconventional twist to the closing footage of one-armed Mattie’s retreating form.
@brucepeek3923
@brucepeek3923 9 ай бұрын
The Coen brothers version contains inaccuracies that stand out like a prostitute at the communion railing during Midnight Mass. The Coen brothers changed Labeouf from using a Sharps buffalo Rifle which was a 300 plus yard large game rifle to a carbine which has a lethal range for people or deer of about 125 yards. maybe. You missed out on that. Second the Texas Rangers which never ever used buffalo rifles in their work... never worked outside the state of Texas. Where is the documentation for that? The way to have dealt with the books authors' deliberately fabricated background of Labeouf would have been to point out that the Texas Rangers had stopped being sometime Indian fighters in 1875 and became enforcers of jim crow segregation law against black people. and terrorizing mexicans. best Bruce Peek
@chrissidwell9455
@chrissidwell9455 11 ай бұрын
That Winchester model 92 in 44-40 was one of John Wayne's favorite guns. I heard it was his favorite rifle and he owned one of them. He also owned a Colt Peacemaker pistol in 44-40. So he was very familiar with those guns. That's why he charged Ned Peppers gang shooting a his 92 and Colt. But in the 2010 film and the book he uses two pistols.
@Gerald-do9yg
@Gerald-do9yg 10 ай бұрын
Yep, Got to give Jeff big props for riding and shooting two Colt Dragoon's!!
@Gerald-do9yg
@Gerald-do9yg 10 ай бұрын
Just wanted to point out, he carried a Winchester'73 in the book and movie; period correct! I'm with you though Chris, seeing the Duke without that stubby, ring-lever '92 and Colt SA with yellowed grips is unthinkable! Blsgs, gg
@frankpienkosky5688
@frankpienkosky5688 10 ай бұрын
tried flipping that Winchester around to cock it...almost knocked myself cold!@@Gerald-do9yg
@gregsug1640
@gregsug1640 10 ай бұрын
John Wayne also makes a move with his Winchester that Arnold cribbed for Terminator 2 as he's shooting while he's on his motorcycle...
@chrystalsmith8732
@chrystalsmith8732 9 ай бұрын
I always figured it was a 30/30 that he carried.
@tomboughan2718
@tomboughan2718 11 ай бұрын
I read the book soon after the 1969 movie. The ending of the 69 movie was more to a homage to John Wayne than to the book. The 2010 movie was closer to the book, though still added the John Wayne one-liners and that mountain man that wasn't in the book. Yes, Cole Younger appeared in the book at the end.
@devbob
@devbob 10 ай бұрын
Mattie calls him trash.
@frankpienkosky5688
@frankpienkosky5688 10 ай бұрын
....and that brings up The Long Riders...amorher unique, and excellent western
@frankpienkosky5688
@frankpienkosky5688 10 ай бұрын
nope...that was reserved for Frank James...who was also in that scene@@devbob
@goplad1
@goplad1 10 ай бұрын
One of my favorite lines from the 1969 True Grit that wasn't used in the 2010 remake is when Maddie says to Rooster after he offers her a drink "I will not put a thief to my lips to steal my brain". What a great bit of 19th century dialogue. Kim Darby's Maddie did indeed have true grit.
@litterpicker1431
@litterpicker1431 10 ай бұрын
17th century dialogue. It's from Othello, by William Shakespeare. Cassio says: I remember a mass of things, but nothing distinctly; a quarrel, but nothing wherefore. O God, that men should put an enemy in their mouths to steal away their brains! that we should, with joy, pleasance revel and applause, transform ourselves into beasts!
@JB-ti7bl
@JB-ti7bl 9 ай бұрын
@@litterpicker1431 "For the drunkard and the glutton will become poor. Grogginess will clothe them in rags." -Proverbs 23
@litterpicker1431
@litterpicker1431 9 ай бұрын
@@JB-ti7bl Mattie Ross would have known the King James version - "For the drunkard and the glutton shall come to poverty: and drowsiness shall clothe a man with rags." But she chose to paraphrase Shakespeare.
@melenatorr
@melenatorr 11 ай бұрын
John Wayne also repeated the character in a follow-up movie, "Rooster Cogburn", playing opposite Katharine Hepburn. The movie is definitely weaker than "True Grit", but oh, it is fun to see Wayne and Hepburn go at each other! They were very much opposites in real life, too, and Hepburn was a little hesitant. But she and Wayne ended up working together very well. If you want to see Wayne in an even more impressive characterization, watch "The Shootist", his last major movie role, where his female partner is Lauren Bacall. This is a strong, touching movie, again based on a very good novel, which I read a long time ago. (I'm not really a Wayne fan, but when he's good, there's no one like him).
@WalkwithHistory
@WalkwithHistory 11 ай бұрын
Jenn loves the Shootist 😊
@frankpienkosky5688
@frankpienkosky5688 10 ай бұрын
check out The High and the Mighty....also some of his best work@@WalkwithHistory
@johngriffith6692
@johngriffith6692 9 ай бұрын
Am curious to know what you think about The Searchers, made in 1957 with Jeffrey Hunter and Natalie Wood. One of my all time favorite movies. The final scene is just gut-wrenching. The main character walks out the open door, into the sunset. He gets no thanks and expects none. He just did what he thought was right.
@WalkwithHistory
@WalkwithHistory 9 ай бұрын
@@johngriffith6692 We're planning on making a whole video about the Searchers. 😉
@johngriffith6692
@johngriffith6692 9 ай бұрын
@@WalkwithHistory awesome! Best movie ever.
@davidblack3418
@davidblack3418 8 ай бұрын
Regarding John Wayne’s ‘Rooster’ character delivering lines with more humor than Jeff Bridges, I respectfully disagree. Jeff Bridges delivers did that, but they were done with more of an unintentional, dry tone. Something I would expect from a seasoned character like that.
@michaelrichardson6051
@michaelrichardson6051 10 ай бұрын
Nobody could beat the performance of Strother Martin in the 1969 film.
@WalkwithHistory
@WalkwithHistory 10 ай бұрын
Thank you for watching!!! We love the 1969 film too.
@gregghelmberger
@gregghelmberger 10 ай бұрын
Honestly Strother Martin made every role he played his own to the point that it's just about impossible to imagine anyone else playing it. "What we've got here is a failure to communicate. Some men you just can't reach." One of the great character actors of all time.
@michaelrichardson6051
@michaelrichardson6051 10 ай бұрын
@@gregghelmberger Butch Cassiden and The Sundance Kid: we have no money going down the mountain. LOL
@gregghelmberger
@gregghelmberger 10 ай бұрын
@@michaelrichardson6051 Exactly! The man was gold.
@curtiskretzer8898
@curtiskretzer8898 9 ай бұрын
Dakin Matthew's did an equal performance in the 2010 version. However, Martin's performance as Chong's father in "Up In Smoke" is criminally ignored.
@jonathanthomas121
@jonathanthomas121 11 ай бұрын
Among the many great lines from the 2010 version, my favortie is "Well, that didn't pan out." Master of understatement!
@WalkwithHistory
@WalkwithHistory 11 ай бұрын
Truth. Thank you for watching.
@spikespa5208
@spikespa5208 10 ай бұрын
2010 "Wait,.......are we bargaining again?"
@mikec6111
@mikec6111 9 ай бұрын
@@spikespa5208​​⁠ my favorite line in the movie.
@johnselander8230
@johnselander8230 10 ай бұрын
John Wayne's reaction to Ned Pepper's insult is a great example of what he brings to that character; loved it. Great video guys!!
@WalkwithHistory
@WalkwithHistory 10 ай бұрын
So true. Thank you so much for watching and your comment.
@curtiskretzer8898
@curtiskretzer8898 9 ай бұрын
I liked the way Wayne gingerly placed the reins in his teeth sitting hobby horse still,as opposed to Bridges pulling his pistols, kicking the horse into a run,then putting the reins in his mouth on the move. But yeah. Wayne
@r.e.tucker3223
@r.e.tucker3223 Жыл бұрын
"Lucky" Ned Pepper was played by Barry Pepper, not Ben Foster. I thoroughly enjoy both films, and I agree the John Wayne one is a bit more fun.
@WalkwithHistory
@WalkwithHistory Жыл бұрын
OMG. You are so right!! I loved him in Saving Private Ryan. I should have known better. Thank you for watching. ♥️🤘
@r.e.tucker3223
@r.e.tucker3223 Жыл бұрын
Vivo para servir.
@henrychinaski5223
@henrychinaski5223 11 ай бұрын
I was waiting and reading comments hoping someone would catch this. Like others commenting I like both movies equally well and for different reasons.
@owie4070
@owie4070 11 ай бұрын
​@@henrychinaski5223Same here, to your entire post 👍🏽
@xScooterAZx
@xScooterAZx 10 ай бұрын
Ned was original;ly played by the legendary Robert Duval.
@Akkordeondirigent
@Akkordeondirigent 3 ай бұрын
Thank you, that was very enjoyable! I saw the elder version on TV here in Germany, and being a fan of John Wayne looked at it as the masterpiece that it truly is. What I didn't like then were three things: Campbells acting (although I knew him as a country singer, of wich I'm quite fond of) was believable but not as much engaging to me, I always was annoyed by Mattie in this version, and lastly I missed the color and debth of the pictures from the classic western movies with Wayne. It looked too cheap and more like an episode of the late Gunsmoke or something like that. "True Grit" is the absolutely rare occasion I like the remake better than the first version. The acting of the whole cast is just gorgeous and really grabs my heart. Mattie is so much more likable, so funny, so tough, so dedicated. The closing of the movie is one of the best film endings ever. The cinematography, the music, the sets and costumes! That is just a great, great movie. Opposite to the abomination the remake of "The Magnificent Seven" is, the remake of "True Grid" is a gorgeous movie. And you did a very good job here! Very entertaining, enjoyable, and you both are very likable.
@WalkwithHistory
@WalkwithHistory 3 ай бұрын
Thank you so much! 😊
@BoyNamedSue4
@BoyNamedSue4 9 ай бұрын
I enjoyed both films. Some elements I like better in the original and others I like better in the remake. I give the edge to the original. One thing that’s always bugged me in the remake is that Jeff Bridges regularly aims using his bad eye. Happens in multiple scenes.
@WalkwithHistory
@WalkwithHistory 9 ай бұрын
That is true. Hard to break a habit. Thank you for watching.
@paulmentzer7658
@paulmentzer7658 11 ай бұрын
In the book, when Cogburn dies, he was a sharpshooter at a western show and mentioned in the ads for the show. Mattie's brother bring it up paraphased "I see your boyfriend will be in town". She goes to see Cogborn but he had died, she laims the border and buries him in the family graveyard.
@xScooterAZx
@xScooterAZx 10 ай бұрын
Cogburn
@bob___
@bob___ Жыл бұрын
I saw both movies when they first came out, and I read the book either just before or just after seeing the 1969 movie. I think the 2010 movie is a better movie, partly because it communicates visceral emotions better. As a historical context note, both movies exemplify their times. 1969 was before the post-Vietnam era in America, while 2010 was post 911, post Iraq, a time of greater meanness. Also, based on the inflation adjusted box office figure you gave for the 1969 movie, the two made approximately the same amount of money.
@WalkwithHistory
@WalkwithHistory Жыл бұрын
Very true! They did earn about the same and we did love both versions. I do agree that the 2010 version gave probably a bit more realistic look at the time and (like you said) the emotion characters like that would have actually had. We probably just leaned towards John Wayne because...well we love John Wayne. Thank you for the comment and for watching!!
@bob___
@bob___ Жыл бұрын
@@WalkwithHistory Personally, on John Wayne, I don't think he ever surpassed his performance in Stagecoach. Also, at some point early in John Wayne's career, John Ford had him meet with Wyatt Earp, who ended his days as an advisor to Hollywood movie makers, so that John Wayne could get a sense of how the Old West really was. I don't know if it's coincidence or not, but audio recordings of Wyatt Earp's speech have that slow, somewhat menacing quality that became John Wayne's trademark.
@aatragon
@aatragon 10 ай бұрын
Many of the best lines are quotes from the book. The Screenwriter of the 1969 version was a woman, Marguerite Roberts. The reason that John Wayne's real comment about hers being one of the best scripts he'd worked from is so poignant is because she was one of the accused who refused to answer before the House Un-American Activities Committee in the 1950's and thus became blacklisted. John Wayne, being a staunch supporter of the anti-Communist movement, showed true gallantry in praising her script relatively recently after her return to Hollywood.
@WalkwithHistory
@WalkwithHistory 10 ай бұрын
Not sure I had heard. Thank you for sharing! 😁 and thanks for watching 😊
@flemit35
@flemit35 11 ай бұрын
06:12 while John Wayne is great winning the oscar over Hoffman and Voight in Midnight Cowboy wasn't right.
@WalkwithHistory
@WalkwithHistory 11 ай бұрын
Yes we annotated the correction in the video description. Sorry bout that! 😊
@BongoShaftsbury1
@BongoShaftsbury1 11 ай бұрын
The similarities and differences begin and end with how much of Fortis’s dialogue was included and how tightly the actors were directed. The Coen Brothers are famous for how insistent they are that every line is read exactly as rehearsed.
@Grant25
@Grant25 Жыл бұрын
They both are good but Jeff Bridges had this period of acting in movies at the time like he’d had a stroke or something. He seemed to mumble in a lot of roles at that time. At least you can understand the Duke
@WalkwithHistory
@WalkwithHistory Жыл бұрын
Yes. He is clearer in delivering his lines. The Duke is the better performance in my opinion.
@4Him4u2
@4Him4u2 11 ай бұрын
That is a good observation that I would have to agree with you on.
@chuckschilling4964
@chuckschilling4964 9 ай бұрын
@@WalkwithHistory That's just sacrilege right there. John Wayne is just doing what he always did in True Grit - just playing John Wayne.
@DickGray-v2h
@DickGray-v2h 11 ай бұрын
The use of hymns as a large part of the soundtrack to the second movie is a wonderful choice. To hear the words of the hymns in my head and see the action was an extra gift of the movie.
@WalkwithHistory
@WalkwithHistory 11 ай бұрын
the soundtrack was VERY good
@frankpienkosky5688
@frankpienkosky5688 10 ай бұрын
made me want to order that hymn for my player piano....great soundtrack!
@chuckschilling4964
@chuckschilling4964 9 ай бұрын
Unlike many/most filmmakers, the Coens have always regarded the scoring of their films as just as essential an element worthy of their attention as the acting, cinematography, etc. It's not just something thrown in during editing and post-production as an afterthought.
@expatamerican3234
@expatamerican3234 9 ай бұрын
Good review! I love these films.
@WalkwithHistory
@WalkwithHistory 9 ай бұрын
Thanks!
@JamesSmith-ge2sg
@JamesSmith-ge2sg 9 ай бұрын
She's the one with True Grit? LOL. Everyone in 1969 understood that.
@jasonmcintosh2632
@jasonmcintosh2632 11 ай бұрын
The 2010 version ending with Iris Dement sinning "Leaning on Everlasting Arms" was beautiful.
@JamesLachowsky
@JamesLachowsky 4 ай бұрын
Iris Dement, like the author Charles Portis and Glen Campbell are all from Arkansas and that is where the story is set.
@jasonmcintosh2632
@jasonmcintosh2632 4 ай бұрын
@@JamesLachowsky I always wondered where it was supposed to happen. The mountain scenes in the movies sure don' t look like the Arkansas.
@JamesLachowsky
@JamesLachowsky 4 ай бұрын
@@jasonmcintosh2632 It was Arkansas (Dardanelle in Yell County), Fort Smith on the Arkansas-Oklahoma border, and Indian territory (present day Oklahoma). The River they crossed was the Arkansas River, dividing Arkansas and Oklahoma.
@joyceweir7060
@joyceweir7060 Жыл бұрын
John Wayne, hands down! No one could do it better! My favorite line was "Fill your hand, you son of a bitch!". John Wayne all the way!!!
@WalkwithHistory
@WalkwithHistory Жыл бұрын
I love that line too. Thank you for watching.
@imikey535
@imikey535 Жыл бұрын
Jeff Bridges version was more faithful to the book.
@scottdavidson526
@scottdavidson526 Жыл бұрын
Jeff Bridges' version was way more believable. 3:27
@mattpastell3728
@mattpastell3728 11 ай бұрын
I couldn’t imagine anyone besides Jeff Bridges reprising the iconic role. And maybe because I’m old and my hearing is impaired, but Jeff mumbled his lines. But The Duke’s lines were delivered clearly, but more importantly John Wayne could say so much with just his facial expressions and body language. The new Mattie Ross, Hailee Steinfeld was brilliant. And stole the new movie.
@WalkwithHistory
@WalkwithHistory 11 ай бұрын
Agree with all of that. Thank you for watching.
@unbearable9770
@unbearable9770 10 ай бұрын
"This must have been in the book." "I think it was closer to the book." Is it too much trouble to actually read the book? It's been 30 years since I read it and to my recollection the 1969 version was closer except for the death of LeBeouf.
@WalkwithHistory
@WalkwithHistory 10 ай бұрын
Sorry. We will for the next video. We focused on comparing the movies. Thanks for watching.
@tomw324
@tomw324 11 ай бұрын
The heart of both movies has to be the performances of the two lead characters. John Wayne is hands down the better Rooster but I think Mattie in the 2010 version is just slightly better. But Wayne performance is so much better that I go with the 69 version. Would love to be able to mix and match both to have John Wayne, Hailee Steinfeld, Matt Damon, Robert Duval, Josh Brolin and Strother Martin in the various roles. Love the scenic backdrops of the 69 version more although I suppose the 2010 version is more accurate and prefer its ending.
@WalkwithHistory
@WalkwithHistory 11 ай бұрын
Agreed! A mix and matched version would be interesting
@kenweis7913
@kenweis7913 Жыл бұрын
You guys got one thing wrong..... La Beef is a great shot with the carbine rifle but it was yet to be prooven..... The whole ending is that Rooster prooves he can shoot guns well in battle. La Beef is more of a sniper......in the end both men respect each other equally and will never doubt the others skills
@WalkwithHistory
@WalkwithHistory Жыл бұрын
Ah, I can see that. Great dynamic between those two. Thanks for watching!
@xScooterAZx
@xScooterAZx 10 ай бұрын
Proves.
@davidbradley3735
@davidbradley3735 10 ай бұрын
I'm a 5th generation Oklahoman, and my grandmother's people had been in the Cookson Hills since the 1820s!! Watching the original version left me wondering where those snow caped mountains were near McAllister?? I think Johns version is a classic, and a good movie!! The Cohen Brothers version of True Grit is a masterpiece, capturing the real territory and books characters much closer!!
@philliprawlinson8228
@philliprawlinson8228 9 ай бұрын
Yeah, 2010 version looks like The Choctaw Nation. We live in Mcalester.
@ShawnW-y7i
@ShawnW-y7i 10 ай бұрын
Maddie did not want rooster to kill Chaney she wanted to have him hung for her father's death
@kevinmurphy65
@kevinmurphy65 11 ай бұрын
Glenn Campbell is/was considered one of the worlds best guitarists.
@WalkwithHistory
@WalkwithHistory 11 ай бұрын
We learn something new everyday. We have to listen to some of his music!!! 🎵
@68halfcab
@68halfcab 11 ай бұрын
I like both movies for different reasons, some of which you both hit on. Thank You!!!
@WalkwithHistory
@WalkwithHistory 11 ай бұрын
Thank you for watching.
@MMAallday-
@MMAallday- 11 ай бұрын
I also prefer the 1969 version. The protaganist and antagonist are also much more believable in their parts as their mannerisms & speech are much more rugged and masculine than the 2010 versions.
@Morrisfactor
@Morrisfactor 10 ай бұрын
My brother and I are old timers. To pass our remaining days, we enjoy films and each have lists of THE TEN BEST WESTERNS EVER MADE, and also for war, drama, romances. etc. We list BOTH versions of True Grit on our top ten western list - the only film to be listed twice in any of our categories.
@WalkwithHistory
@WalkwithHistory 10 ай бұрын
That is super coo and I can totally see that. I would probably list it twice too. What is your #1?
@Morrisfactor
@Morrisfactor 10 ай бұрын
I choose THE BIG COUNTRY - an underrated masterpiece! My brother chooses LITTLE BIG MAN). @@WalkwithHistory
@stephengiese7549
@stephengiese7549 3 ай бұрын
Wonderfull discussion about a true classic! Cute exchange between husband and wife. This is the most detailed examination of a film i have ever heard. The acting and the script is first rate. Wayne knew when there is a terrific script similar to the alamo😀
@WalkwithHistory
@WalkwithHistory 3 ай бұрын
Aww. Thank you so much! We really enjoy this movie are we’re so happy to be able to share that with others.
@edcassano7575
@edcassano7575 6 ай бұрын
Should have mentioned Leaning on the Everlasting Arms being played at the end of the 2010 version. Provided a perfect finish/summation of the hardships and emotions brought forth in the movie.
@turton2112
@turton2112 10 ай бұрын
Having seen and ejoyed both films, I found the 2010 remake to havea more authentic look to it than did the original release, but told the same story about equally well. Damon did a wonderful job portraying Loebeef. The locations and the talk of the people of the frontier just sounded more real.
@pauldesjardins8166
@pauldesjardins8166 11 ай бұрын
Charles Portis was a trombone player as a boy. My band director, Thomas Young in South Lyon, was a music teacher for him. He said that when he would go out to 7th position the slide would almost come off the instrument. Mr. Young was a native of Pine Bluff Arkansas before he moved to Michigan for a Master's Degree in music at MSU. I think the 1969 version is the best. The dialogue in the 2010 was rather strange. The people, Cheney in particular, did not use contractions. The music in the 2010 version was very good. The scene near the end when they are riding along the ridge at sunset was excellent. I was 6 when my parents took me to see the original version. It was the only John Wayne movie that I saw in a theater.
@mikegillettify
@mikegillettify 10 ай бұрын
Nice story! I will tell you the diaologue in the 2010 is almost word for word from the Charles Portis Novel. Cheney didn’t use contractions there either. It’s fine to like the 69 version more of course; but if you were ever curious about the reason for much of the diologue, there it is.
@pauldesjardins8166
@pauldesjardins8166 10 ай бұрын
Thanks for the response. I remember seeing a copy of the book in an English class in junior high. I never bothered to read it.@@mikegillettifyP.S. I looked toward the end and saw that the Texas Ranger did not die. He fished Cheney's corpse out of the snake pit.
@mikegillettify
@mikegillettify 10 ай бұрын
@@pauldesjardins8166 highly recommend the book! What instrument did you play when studying under Mr Young?
@pauldesjardins8166
@pauldesjardins8166 10 ай бұрын
@@mikegillettify Trombone. 1st chair in a band that received straight Is in district & state festival for years. We won 1st place in a festival in Wildwood, NJ in 1978. A band from Connecticutt took 2nd.
@mikegillettify
@mikegillettify 10 ай бұрын
@@pauldesjardins8166 thank you for sharing!
@jamescastillo2405
@jamescastillo2405 10 ай бұрын
There is no contest, Jeff Bridges version blows away the Duke's version Thousand percent.
@Michael-yf1wo
@Michael-yf1wo 10 ай бұрын
I'd suggest reading the book before comparing the movies. That way, you would know, for example, if the wandering dentist/doctor encounter from the 2010 film was original to the book or a Coen Brothers quirky add-on.
@WalkwithHistory
@WalkwithHistory 10 ай бұрын
Thank you for the suggestion and thank you for watching! 😊
@paulwhiston1836
@paulwhiston1836 10 ай бұрын
Warren Oates to me is more famous for his collaborations with Sam Peckinpah
@craigryan5290
@craigryan5290 10 ай бұрын
Wayn’s last movie is arguably his best. “The Shootist.”
@WalkwithHistory
@WalkwithHistory 10 ай бұрын
Love that one.
@frankpienkosky5688
@frankpienkosky5688 10 ай бұрын
poignant...considering the circumstances....
@hailslaton
@hailslaton 9 ай бұрын
I know this is going to be an unpopular opinion, but that's really the only John Wayne movie that is even watchable.
@tlcndc
@tlcndc 11 ай бұрын
Greatly appreciated your review, as for me also, John Wayne all the way! Also, having been born and raised in Fort Smith, Arkansas, I know all too well the history of Judge Roy Parker, “the hanging judge“, and some of the accurate historical points in the beginning of the movie. One that was better portrayed in John Wayne’s version that I don’t think was portrayed in Jeff Bridges, was Wayne’s character, taking the prisoners from the Oklahoma territory, across the Arkansas River that divides the two states, then to the jail below the courthouse. That was the accurate location for the jail then. However, one glaring inaccuracy was when Wayne’s character comes back out of the jail and there’s snowcapped mountains off in the background where would’ve been the Oklahoma territory LMAO…. I know of no snowcapped mountains anywhere in the “territory of Oklahoma“. Of course, would have to concede cinematography to the Coen brothers’ version simply due to modern equipment, techniques and processing not available in the Wayne version.
@WalkwithHistory
@WalkwithHistory 11 ай бұрын
I love this!!! Thank you for that insight.
@raymondlee3414
@raymondlee3414 11 ай бұрын
Ft. Smith is in Arkanasas and the Ouchitas Mtns are on one side of the river and the Ozarks are on the other side so it was accurate.
@darthhauler9947
@darthhauler9947 11 ай бұрын
@@raymondlee3414 Sorry, no. What 'mountains' we have around here are mostly just tall hills. Cavanaugh Hill which is about the only 'mountain' visible from Fort Smith is the world's tallest hill measuring just six feet under a proper mountain. It is not snow capped. The next closest is Poteau mountain, which is just over the minimum requirement, also does not have snow on it year round and barely does when it does, albeit rarely, snow around here. You want mountains you have to go further north or south to find them then what you can see in Fort Smith.
@tomcooper6108
@tomcooper6108 11 ай бұрын
Agreed. There are NO snowcapped mountains anywhere in that area. Even the 2010 version was slightly off because of the landscape. Some were authentic, others not, but you'd have to have grown up there to know.
@curtiskretzer8898
@curtiskretzer8898 9 ай бұрын
Hathaway's version filmed in Oregon...because it started w/an "O",too.😐
@mykalpennings5968
@mykalpennings5968 10 ай бұрын
The reason Rooster Cogburn signed on with Frank James in the wild west show in the 2010 version was because they likely knew each other from the civil war, both having served as Bushwhackers under William Quantrill and "Bloody" Bill Anderson. LaBeouf mentions this when they discuss the war and who they served with, disparaging Quantrill as basically an outlaw and murderer.
@WalkwithHistory
@WalkwithHistory 10 ай бұрын
That makes sense. I think it is great tie into American Western History.
@WarDog793
@WarDog793 9 ай бұрын
Great comparison and reviews of these two great westerns. I suppose I like the 1969 version best since that is what I grew up on. As for the 2010 version, Hailee Steinfeld proves with her *debut role* what a superb actress she is. However, two objections I have with the 2010 version is [I read] Jeff Bridges's wore his eyepatch over his right eye to mock Wayne because Bridges disagreed with Wayne's politics. 🙄 The other bad decision (unless it was in the novel) was the shootout *at night* at the cabin. They could have hit almost NO one, shooting at that distance at night. That was just plain stupid.
@WalkwithHistory
@WalkwithHistory 9 ай бұрын
Greta point on the night time shootout. Thank you! 😊
@avantegarde7797
@avantegarde7797 10 ай бұрын
Best supporting actor that year, should have been Strother Martin. His portrayal of the horse salesman, and his banter with Kim Darby, are HILLARIOUS and PERFECT ! His work and comedic timing, in this film tragically, underrated, and underappreciated. Each character, in this film, contributed to an almost perfect film, but, for me, Strother was the outstanding supporter ! Just wonderful !
@WalkwithHistory
@WalkwithHistory 10 ай бұрын
😁
@larryyeadeke2953
@larryyeadeke2953 9 ай бұрын
John Wayne thought highly of him too. He put him in the last movie he did, The Shootist.
@mikeyoung9810
@mikeyoung9810 11 ай бұрын
Good content. I love both movies and being a history buff I am particularly critical of most westerns I grew up with (being 68). I don't find many things that annoy me about either movie when it comes to historical reality. Unforgiven is one of few that I think more accurately portrays the "old west" and still makes a movie worth enjoying (real reality is usually pretty depressing). Now watching your video. (and I don't care how close the movies are to their books since I haven't read them). edit: after watching the video I have to say I enjoyed it very much even with the many spelling mistakes in the text shown across the video. hehe.
@WalkwithHistory
@WalkwithHistory 11 ай бұрын
We have to fix that. Thank you for watching.
@patrickbeck3285
@patrickbeck3285 Жыл бұрын
Yes, Glen Campbell was a singer and not really an actor. He mentioned throughout the years that he was so bad in True Grit that he made John Wayne look so good in the movie that Wayne won his only oscar.
@WalkwithHistory
@WalkwithHistory Жыл бұрын
LOL that is funny. I did not think he was that bad. I actually warmed up to him in the end. I know he sang the opening song for True Grit too. Thank you for watching.
@patrickbeck3285
@patrickbeck3285 Жыл бұрын
@@WalkwithHistory Yes, I actually thought that he was decent in the role of the ranger. The tradition of putting a well-known singer in the supporting role began with Rick Nelson in Rio Bravo and Fabian in North to Alaska. John Wayne always did well, but never as well as True Grit.
@jamesfontes9292
@jamesfontes9292 4 ай бұрын
How can you compete with the Duke ? Jeff Bridges did an excellent job though
@RobertNeumann-j2r
@RobertNeumann-j2r 9 ай бұрын
The 1969 version followed the book more closely and in the 2010 version Barry Pepper, not Ben Foster, played Lucky Ned Pepper. I enjoyed both films equally and I enjoyed the book. I saw the 1969 version on the big screen and I am currently a big fan of the Coen Brothers.
@WalkwithHistory
@WalkwithHistory 9 ай бұрын
Yup! We misspoke and corrected ourselves in the video description. Thank you for watching! 😁 We enjoyed both as well. 😁🙌🏻
@daviddickey1994
@daviddickey1994 6 ай бұрын
Loved both versions.
@ralphtoivonen2071
@ralphtoivonen2071 Жыл бұрын
Coen bros wins hands down ... more raw, real and funny. The 1969 movie was good but acting was more wooden and the Coen Bros know how to get audiences to do work which is richly fulfilling. There are so many many side characters in the 2010 version that are superbly acted.
@WalkwithHistory
@WalkwithHistory Жыл бұрын
Agree! Both so good…I guess we’re all spoiled a bit. 😂
@H0kieJoe
@H0kieJoe 11 ай бұрын
Meh. Bridges was fine. Kim Darby played the role of Mattie far better; and Matt Damon was not convincing in the role. New Grit 6.5/10. Old Grit 8.5/10.
@veseyvonveitinghof
@veseyvonveitinghof 10 ай бұрын
...there will always be one Rooster Cogburn= John Wayne...
@WalkwithHistory
@WalkwithHistory 10 ай бұрын
We agree! Thank you for watching.
@kevg1617
@kevg1617 10 ай бұрын
Barry Pepper plays Ned Pepper in the 2010 version, not Ben Foster
@WalkwithHistory
@WalkwithHistory 10 ай бұрын
Yup! We misspoke and corrected ourselves in the video description. Thank you for watching! 😁
@vezner
@vezner 10 ай бұрын
Great video! I just discovered your channel and subbed. I’d love to see you do more videos analyzing John Wayne films. I’m a huge fan.
@WalkwithHistory
@WalkwithHistory 10 ай бұрын
You read our minds 😉 We defy plan to do that! 😁🙌🏻 Welcome. 😊
@vezner
@vezner 10 ай бұрын
@@WalkwithHistory that’s great to hear! I look forward to it as I look through your library.
@shereewilson6278
@shereewilson6278 9 ай бұрын
I love the humour in the 1969 movie. The part were John Wayne says while laughing watching Mattie crossing the river '' She reminds me of me'' is so classic.
@WalkwithHistory
@WalkwithHistory 9 ай бұрын
I love that part too.
@DUCKSAREEVILLLLLLLL
@DUCKSAREEVILLLLLLLL Жыл бұрын
In the final shootout, Wayne shot at least one of the Ned Pepper gang in the back. 4 against one? Come on! He's not going to be able to shoot them all in the front. That fits Cogburn's character much better than the Coen Brothers version. Also, I've never heard of any historical western figure using 2 pistols with any kind of accuracy at all, as with the new version. In the Wayne shootout, he's got a rifle, which is much easier to aim, and a pistol. That's more realistic. P.S. I can (EVERYONE can ! ) easily hit an 8 inch round target at 80 yards every single time with a basic, site adjusted, Italian Hawken copy black powder rifle with Patridge iron sites. However, with a revolver, my accuracy is reduced around 70%. Two pistols would be extremely difficult to aim, especially for someone wearing an eye patch.
@WalkwithHistory
@WalkwithHistory Жыл бұрын
Agreed. 😁
@longnamenocansayy
@longnamenocansayy 11 ай бұрын
a real movie goer would not complain about john wayne against 4 bad guys. next you'll be complaining about john wayne shooting a rifle one handed and a six gun in the other. it was movie going at it's best and we're all greatful.
@DUCKSAREEVILLLLLLLL
@DUCKSAREEVILLLLLLLL 11 ай бұрын
@@longnamenocansayy Who's complaining? The character was basically good, but he's old, he drinks, he fibs a little, he's overweight, he's got lousy depth perception with one eye, and it's 4 younger guys against one. He needed every advantage he could get, so shooting bad guys who don't play fair in the back was more realistic to me than the newer version. Don't you think so?
@kevinmalone3210
@kevinmalone3210 11 ай бұрын
Not to mention riding on a horse, while trying to hit your targets, who are also moving, riding on horses, ah well, it was a movie after all.
@DUCKSAREEVILLLLLLLL
@DUCKSAREEVILLLLLLLL 11 ай бұрын
@@kevinmalone3210 The Coens say they never even watched the Duke version and used only the book for reference, which is hard to believe. I can't believe that the the book would be less realistic than the first True Grit during that shootout. Two pistols sure look cool, though! By the way, I liked the Coen brothers version, I like almost all their movies, but it was a more serious movie. The Duke version is more of that era, more positive.
@Thestargazer56
@Thestargazer56 11 ай бұрын
The 2010 remake is the only remake of a classic movie that I felt was equal to or better than the original version, because I watched the remake with the expectation of being very critical of it. I read the book True Grit in high school in the early 1970s. I reread the book after the remake and I felt like it was more true to the book., especially the dialogue. True Grit (1969) was, in my opinion one of John Wayne's best movies. Charles Portis was an amazing author by narating the story through the eyes of a young girl.
@Windywoo
@Windywoo 10 ай бұрын
I think the Coens said that they were not remaking the movie, just doing a different interpretation of the book. A small distinction perhaps.
@thebiologicalrealist
@thebiologicalrealist 11 ай бұрын
I was 12 years old when the 1969 version came out and I was a huge fan of Glen Campbell. So very nostalgic attachment to it. But the Cohen brothers version was a great movie.
@DeathGoreGrindcoreChannel
@DeathGoreGrindcoreChannel 10 ай бұрын
Ben Foster was in 3:10 to Yuma but not this. Ned Pepper was played by Barry Robert Pepper who can also be seen in the Green Mile.
@WalkwithHistory
@WalkwithHistory 10 ай бұрын
Yes. I love 3:10 to Yuma. And I love both actors. It is my mistake. Barry Pepper deserves all the glory!!! Thank you for watching.
@mikebirdsall1200
@mikebirdsall1200 10 ай бұрын
Both are great movies, but I liked the '69' version a bit better as I felt the lines had a bit more humor, which to me is more realistic. As a veteran, I know stressful situations often result in strange and "funny" conversations.🤔
@WalkwithHistory
@WalkwithHistory 10 ай бұрын
That is so true!!! I appreciate that comment and observation. Thank you for your service.
@olathestanwalker6717
@olathestanwalker6717 11 ай бұрын
Enjoyed your take, but lean towards the 2010 version. Although, I hadn't seen the John Wayne version in years until recently, I had forgotten how good it was. By the way, Barry Pepper played Ned Pepper, not Ben Foster.
@WalkwithHistory
@WalkwithHistory 10 ай бұрын
Yup! We misspoke and corrected ourselves in the video description. Thank you for watching! 😁
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