Historical errors prove the Qur'an is made by man!

The Qur’an has many Internal Historical Problems, proving it came from Human origins, and was not from God. For instance:
A) The Qur’an introduces a Samaritan too early
Surah 20:85-87, 95-97: "the Samiri has led them astray...[Moses] said, "And what is your case, O Samiri?"
-Yet, Samaritans did not exist at the time of Moses (1400 BC)
-The Samaritans were created after the fall of the Northern Kingdom of Israel by Sargon II the Assyrian king in 722BC, almost 700 years later.
B) And a Mosque too early
Surah 17:1 “Glorified is He who took His slave for a journey by night from al-Masjid al-Haram [Mecca] to al-Masjid al-Aqsa” [Jerusalem] (known as Mi’raj - 621 AD)
-The Dome of the Rock was built in 691 AD
-The Masjid al Aqsa was built in 710 AD,
-Yet, this night journey is known as the Mi’raj, which supposedly happened in 621 AD!
-What’s more, Muslims didn’t get to Jerusalem to build anything until 638-639 AD
-It couldn’t even be the Jewish temple of Jerusalem, as it was destroyed in 70 AD!
C) And Coats of Chain-Mail too early
Surah 34:10-11: “And We certainly gave David… And We made pliable for him iron, Make full coats of mail and calculate [precisely] the links”
-David lived in 1,000 BC
-Coats of chain mail were not invented until 200 BC, 800 years later!
D) The Qur’an mis-places Crucifixions too early
-S.7:120-124 [Pharaoh said to sorcerers at the time of Moses = 1400 BC] "Indeed, this is a conspiracy which you conspired in the city to expel therefrom its people...then I will surely crucify you all." (also S.20:71)
-S.12:41 [Pharaoh to a baker at the time of Joseph = 1800 BC], ”O two companions of the prison! `As for one of you, he will pour out wine for his lord to drink; and as for the other, he will be crucified…"
-Moses’s pharaoh = 1447 BC; Joseph’s pharaoh = 1800 BC
-Crucifixions were not even used in Egypt
-They were first introduced in 500 BC
-Thus, the Qur’an’s crucifixions are in the wrong place, and 1,000 - 1,300 years too early!
E) Then Denies the Crucifixion of Jesus
S.4:157 And [for] their saying, "Indeed, we have killed the Messiah, Jesus, the son of Mary, the messenger of Allah." And they did not kill him, nor did they crucify him"
-Thallus Greek (Samaritan hist. 52 AD) talk about the crucifixion
-So did Phlegon the Greek (Rome writer 1st c.)
-Josephus Jewish (AD 37 to 90)
-Tacitus (Roman hist.-110 AD)
-So, Greek, Roman, and Jewish Historians from the 1st - 2nd century ALL agree that it was Jesus who was on the Cross
F) It’s got the Wrong Mary
-Surah 19:28 = “O Mary, you have certainly done a thing unprecedented. O sister of Aaron”
-Surah 66:12 = “And Maryam, the daughter of Imran, who guarded her chastity”
-Surah 20:30 = “Aaron, my [Moses] brother”
-Miriam is the sister of Aaron and Moses
-All three are the children of Amran (Ex. 6:20)
-In Luke the Father of Mary is not Amran, but Heli (Luke 3:23)
-And she lived 1400 years after Aaron and Moses
G) It confuses Pharaoh, the Tower of Babel, & Haman
Surah 40:36-37 (and S.38:28) “And Pharaoh said, "O Haman, construct for me a tower
that I might reach the ways -The ways into the heavens - so that I may look at the deity of Moses; but indeed, I think he is a liar.“
-Egypt never built any towers. They built pyramids and temples
-Haman was not an Egyptian, but a Persian
-Esther 3:1 = Haman was the minister of the Persian king Ahasuerus (Xerxes 1 according to the Greeks) and reigned between 486-465BC
-Thus, Pharaoh (1500BC) and Haman (510BC) never met each other
H) It makes Alexander the Great an amazing engineer
Surah 18:96: “Bring me sheets of iron...between the two mountain walls...that I may pour over it molten copper"
-He Builds an iron and copper Wall between 2 mountains! In 330 BC?
-There’s no Record of such a wall in his 3 biographies!
-Such a feat would hardly be possible even today!
I) It refers to ‘futuristic’ coins (Dirham) too early
-Surah 12:20 “a few dirhams counted out” (The coins used to buy Joseph)
-Joseph lived in 1800 BC
-Coins were created = 600s BC by the Lydians
-Dirhams were introduced post 661 AD, by the Sufyani family
-Could this be a later Redaction?
CONCLUSION: Whoever wrote the Qur’an didn’t know their history
-The Qur’an introduces, Samaritans, Mosques, chain-mail, crucifixions, and Dirham coins too early
-It introduces the Qibla and the Ka’aba in Mecca too late
-It suggests that Alexander the Great was an amazing engineer
-It confuses the OT and the NT Marys, as well as Pharaoh, the Tower of Babel, and Haman
-This suggests that either the authors of the Qur’an didn’t know their history well, or that they borrowed these stories from other sources with little discretion on their parts
-Either way, this once more proves that the Qur’an is not from God, but created and written down by finite and frail men like you and me
© Pfander Centre for Apologetics - US, 2020
(32,490) (Music: "small adventure", by Rafael Krux (from filmmusic-io - License CC BY)

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quran perfectly preserved since 1924.

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[@R-rr1]

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[@Margaret.Thatcher.]

​@@neomatukana7357 amiri mus'saf, the publication of the Cairo edition of the Qur'an

[@kilausmikhail826]

You are just following what some people said without doing your own research

[@stephenngethe4886]

Man made Qur'an, Qur'an made man mad.

[@chrisazure1624]

MuMadman.

[@aldredtawasil9339]

there are many reasons why the Bible is corrupted... the reason are ; as it pointed out on the 500 and 80 second page of the volume of encyclopaedia of Religion of ethics,Jesus( a.s) didn't leave behind him a written work,nor did he command any of his disciples to write literature.as it seen this great encyclopaedia,confirm the 4 gospel do not have religious value,and they consist of contradictory stories with anonymous authors. as the European scientist and historians and even Christian theologians announce that,todays Bible are corrupted books.... enemies of religion,who rejected spiritual forces and who have dizzed by the pace of technological changes.. and therefore,are quite unconscious of the existence of spiritual knowledge.. as for the Bible,nothing was it preserved in original purity. for one thing,no one knew the Bible by heart. why word Bible is not in the Bible? " preached the gospel"( luke20:1) " and Jesus went...preaching the gospel and healing every disease among people".( Matthew 9:35) therefore,nowhere does the new testament call itself the new testament.. and nowhere the old testament call itself the old testament.. and also the word" Bible" is unknown within the page of the bible.the English word" Bible" comes from " Biblos", a Greek terms means book or books. George Bernard Shaw,the well- known man of literature goes to extreme in this subject. he is of the opinion that; " the Torah and the Bible are the most dangerous books of the world.they must be locked in a strong safe ,lest they should appear again".. why the Bible had been editing? the reason is, the Jews and Christians have been editing their books of god. from it's very inception. the difference between them and ancient forgerer is that forgers,didn't know the arts of writing- " preface" and" footnotes".... , I

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[@rahulbhartiya9728]

Nice one

[@sergiofernandes6798]

The Quran is the worst error is the history of mankind ...

[@ExtraEcclesiamNullaSalus]

Islam is right about women though 😂

[@aldredtawasil9339]

why the holy Bible is corrupted? the reason is: the followers of Jesus( a.s) did not have the new testament in it's present form.even in the accepted new testament. it is admitted that Jesus( a.s) had declared that he definitely he had no intention of making any changes in the Jewish scripture. to make matter of worse,the Bible had been corrupt...

[@annekenna2768]

And we are all paying for that error now, not only Muslims

[@umarmujaahid1065]

@@ExtraEcclesiamNullaSalus so is the (uninspired) bible in 1 Timothy 2:12 "I do not permit a woman to teach or to assume authority over a man; she must be quiet." 1 Timothy 2:14 "And Adam was not the one deceived; it was the woman who was deceived and became a sinner." Well that's my evidences from the (unjust) bible.

[@ExtraEcclesiamNullaSalus]

@@umarmujaahid1065 how is that evidence of the bible being unjust or uninspired?

[@AlphaOmega888]

MUST SEE - After YEARS of being a scholar in Islam, he concluded that the Prophet NEVER even existed! -"Sven Kalisch (also Muhammad Sven Kalisch, born March 21, 1966) is a German who converted to Islam at age 15, became the first in Germany to hold a chair in Islamic theology (at University of Münster), then in 2008 announced that he had *come to the conclusion* that the prophet *Muhammad probably never existed."* -Wikipedia

[@George-iv1hi]

Strange - I have concluded the same after a minute. But I have never been brainwashed.

[@Peter-xf9jy]

He existed, but he was not a prophet, just a frustrated preacher who became violent and raided Palestine anno Domini 634 hhh

[@avi3860]

Muslims seriously believe the myth of Mohammed's MBUHV MERCY be upon his VICTIMS, night ride on a winged horse with a human face to JERUSALEM to AL AKSA MOSQUE which was not even built until 80 years after Mohammed died. Myths and fairytales from the 7th century backwardness.

[@greenzone7371]

The real Mohammed is iya ibn qabisah al-tai...

[@markeden767]

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[@NoOne-jy7vd]

Quran made by man inspired by the falling angel on purpose to mislead billions human... may the Holy Spirit bring them all back to Jesus.... come home muslims...

[@kafirlindaclark6148]

Amen!

[@a-the-1st324]

Monotheism & Infinity is the first & absolute property of Almighty creator! No trinity can split his infinity. No finite can be his son! He is pure! He is The Almighty one!

[@sairsuphi5429]

It makes sense that falling angels inspire men to mislead many. That's what I think about Pauline writings which should have never been part of Bible. It contradicts both Torah and Jesus' words. May the Holy Spirit lead you to the narrow path of Jesus PBUH.

[@sairsuphi5429]

@Ruso ed so you're failing to be deragotary. Great. It is a important discussion, do you have anything intelligent to say (question mark omitted on purpose)

[@sairsuphi5429]

@jasno ko dan tried but didn't understand your question.

[@BenElyon3]

I'd be shocked in bewilderment if as many as a million Muslims remain after these things really get viral. The truth is becoming louder.

[@LordJagd]

I think a major issue is that we only get Christian apologists bringing this research up. If someone presented it neutrally then it would be way more effective, I think.

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[@JoeMCool]

maybe you should learn Arabic so that you can explain to them what you think you know?

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[@fliporhold]

Have they ever identified the muddy pond that the sun sets in every night?

[@livewireOrourke]

But they did find it! It's in a retention pond behind a Walmart in Ohio.

[@Zebred2001]

Nope but we've identified the murky morass the koran and islam are sinking into!

[@bentan7610]

Either the massive sun must shrink, OR the earth gets burnt beyond ash or cinder when that happens 😂😁 but has anyone really seen either happening before? 😎🤯

[@a-the-1st324]

BUT BRO! WE HAVE A BIG PROBLEM! ✍ If someone dies on the cross for the sins of others, it is never considered as love, it is worse than suicide! & if any god has done such evil, he is worse than the cow that the pagans worship!

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[@daughtersofthekingdom6779]

Got the Name of Abraham's father's name wrong!!

[@reylambarte5615]

Great argument brother smith

[@truthofgod6213]

Brother Smith, 1st off I love your work and thank you for sharing it. May I ask your opinion of author John Preacher? I read his work: The Islamic Antichrist.

[@mikeisrite]

Thanks for doing this

[@gstggmail]

God bless you mr Jay 👍👏👏👏👏

[@yesupathamkenneth3651]

Fantastic....one of the words for the presentation....well done sir....

[@petervdbnz2]

LOL "God bless the British... everywhere they went, they stole things and brought [them] back to the British Museum so we could look at [them]!" Love it! The historical errors in the Qur'an seem to me to be an insurmountable problem for Islam. I remember reading the Qur'an and being surprised at how it simply did not seem to have a correct understanding of basic Christian doctrines when it criticised them. Like you say, Jay, the real God would not get those historical details wrong. In contrast, the Bible gets confirmed by archaeology regularly despite the best efforts of anti-Christian scholars.

[@2adamast]

I thought most biblical stuff predating 7th century BCE is mythical

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[@ddman5025]

They really didn’t steal anything. It all belong to them in the first place.

[@lauraaw.2095]

The worst part is you cannot get it into a Muslim's head how wrong the Quran is about most of these historical facts 😢. Like they just don't understand.

[@Advaitam-vh9ii]

​@@ddman5025so a burglar comes into your home, breaks in, stays illegally in your house killing your most family members, then suddenly one he moves to his OG place and takes away things from your house 😂😂😂😂😂 And then the things are his ? How low you have to be to support a race of ignorant, shrewd rapists, looters, civilization and culture destroyers ?

[@johnsondaniel6351]

Amen very good explain brother Jay God bless you

[@janiceshugantini14]

Dr.Jay good job keep it up

[@welcomesmart]

Awesome! Please, keep it coming. Thank you, Sir.

[@ZxNaba]

No pls don't keep it coming he just lie and don't know about quran 3:30 samiri THAT'S THE NAME OF THE PEOPLE

[@oiver9894]

I see a mistake they have here before getting into the link they say samiri means sumarian which is inaccurate and it means in Arabic a stranger this is A B. The whole area is the mosque in islam not the newly built mosques C. The verse in Arabic doesn't mention any coats D. is the opposite in the story of Joseph it mentions a king not a Pharoah and historically it is if you do research which i doubt E. the jesus dying on the cross is not a historical fact all the historians who recorded it were Christian or only heard of it + the Quran says clearly that they thought he was so he didn't deny them recording it F. in Arabic the word اخت doesn't mean a sister all the time it just means that she's from his area G. the verse never mentioned the tower of babel H. the verse no where mentioned Alexander it mentioned another king called tho al karnain I. the verse doesn't mention what we today call dirham it's used to describe current not the same dirhams we know today And from the end of the description we can clearly see that they are just ignorant trying to hate on islam.

[@oiver9894]

@@ZxNaba samiri means a stranger in Arabic and possibly the name of the person it's not about sumarians

[@ZxNaba]

@@oiver9894 Yeah i know

[@allo5170]

@@ZxNaba Let every Muslims, Christians and everyone pray this. Love for God and love of God enter into my heart now, Amen

[@Gorillarevolta]

Fantastic. Thank you Dr Smith!

[@user-kn6kq6nn1g]

All I have mentioned are just deceptions, and I can respond point by point What is the translation you rely on? Because the translation of some verses is wrong, and while studying a religious text, we must read the original, not the translation Whoever wants to hear the truth about his distortion, let me know

[@ellismaytham456]

Love your videos

[@saulien3675]

Good dr. Jay!

[@kaloarepo288]

I once heard a Muslim apologist say that the phrase "daughter of Amran" was a Jewish honorary title that was often used in those times and does not refer specifically to the Old testament person who was sister of Moses and Aaron.Trouble is that there is not a scintilla of evidence that this was ever an honorary title -just a desperate attempt at a cover up.

[@dont-click-or-checkmyplaylists]

Not sure which Muslim said that but what is the argument? I will look in to it when I have time, please respond with the argument.

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[@XaeeD]

1. Samiri is a nickname. Ibn `Abbas is reported to have said: "As-Samiri was a man from the people of Bajarma, a people who worshipped cows.. ..his name was Musa bin Zafar.'' Qatadah said: "He was from the village of Samarra.'' Samarra is an ancient place in Iraq that already existed in prehistory. It is a World Heritage Site on UNESCO's list. So this is not referring to the Biblical Samaritans, nor to the geographical region of Sameria in Israel, but to some person from the city of Samarra. Samaritans are not from Samarra, and "the Samiri" was not from Sameria: the two have nothing to do with one another. 2. The Al-Aqsa mosque is the Sacred House in Jerusalem. Doesn't matter if there were no Muslims in Jerusalem. How's that relevant? The name refers to the House, whether it was standing there or not, again, this does not matter. The locations is what matters: he(saw) travels from Makkah to Jerusalem. 3. Chain-mail. How do you know when chain-mail was and wasn't made? Evidence for chain-mail goes back to the 5th century B.C. Those would be written accounts. Due to corrosion, iron objects wither and dissolve entirely, unless preserved under very favorable conditions. It's unintelligible to assume that the oldest extant remnants of iron items were invented at that exact moment in time. 4. Crucifixions. Same thing basically. This is an argument from silence. How would you know that people of ancient times didn't crucify others? It doesn't even have to be the typical type of crucifixion. You can hang someone on a tree, nail them to the ground, etc. "You can't have crucifixions that early" is like saying "you can't have people throwing others down to their deaths from really high places that early in time". Why not, Jay? What's so special about crucifixions that it only ever occurred to people at a specific moment in history? A caveman could've crucified another caveman. This is not some logical impossibility. It's very much possible. 5. More crucifixions. Yes, someone was indeed crucified, but it wasn't Jesus(as). His(as) enemies had some other guy executed, and the people believed it was Jesus(as), but it wasn't God's prophet. 6. Maryam(as) is called "sister of Harun" by those who slandered her. They did this to emphasize the supposed sin. She(as) belonged to a righteous bloodline. In Luke's Gospel, Elizabeth is called a "daughter of Aaron". Elizabeth and Maryam(as) were related. To call Maryam(as) a "sister" is to place her even closer to Harun, because the sister of Aaron has a very high status in Judaism. Rashi says that as Moses(as) lead the men out of Egypt, his sister Maryam(as) lead the women. And as he(as) taught the men the Thora, she(as) taught the women. To call her "sister of Harun" makes sense, because they had the same name. They compared her(as) to that lady(as) to compound the sin. It's one thing if a beggar steals a loaf of bread, it's much worse if the King steals a loaf of bread. There's also a hadith in which the prophet(saw) specifically states that there's a 1000 year gap in between Jesus(as) the son of Maryam(as) and Moses(as) the son of Imran(as). Nowhere in the Qur'an is Jesus(as) ever placed within the timeframe of the Exodus. That's ridiculous, but Jay knows that, I'm sure, as this is an old argument that's only ever used by ignorant people, or deceivers who know the answer, but still bring this nonsense up. 7. Jay's Qibla nonsense has been sufficiently addressed by many different Muslims. I'm not going to bother with this one. 8. Comparing this to the Bible is pointless. Haman was an Egyptian stone mason according to the Qur'an. Leo Rienisch wrote in his book "Die aegyptischen Denkmaeler in Miramar" the following when commenting on the inscriptions on a stone tablet: Am unteren Theile der Stele sieht man das Bild eines Jünglings, welcher Opfergaben auf einen Tisch legt. Hinter diesem sitzt ein Mann mit einer Frau, wohl die Eltern des opfernden Sohnes. Die an der Stele befindliche Inschrift lautet (Taf. XXXIX, B): "...auf seinem Tische, lieblichen Hauch der Lebensluft, und eine schöne Beerdigung nach einem hohen Alter der Person des Aufsehers der Opferspenden des Ammon, Hmunhu, des Gerechtfertigten." "...alle guten und reinen Gaben der Person des Aufsehers der Opferspenden des Ammon, Hmunhu, des Gerechtfertigen." Lucky for you, I speak all West-Germanic languages, so I can translate this for you: On the bottom part of the tablet an image of a youth is seen, who places offerings on a table. Behind it, a man and a woman are seated, Probably the parents of the sacrificing son. The inscription on the tablet states: "...on his table, sweet breath of life, And a beautiful funeral after old age for the person of overseers of the offerings for Ammon, Hmunhu, of the righteous." "...all the good and pure gifts of the person of overseers of offerings for Ammon, Hmunhu, of the righteous." In a properly structured English sentence you'd say: "And after a ripe old age, the righteous provided a beautiful funeral for Hmunhu; the master of overseers of the offerings for Ammon." "All the good and pure gifts of the righteous to Hmunhu; the master of overseers of offerings for Ammon." Hmunhu is the name of the deceased person. This person was in charge of the sacrifices and offerings to the god Ammon. Likewise, Rienisch writes right after this: "...der Genosse des Gottes in der Südmauer, der königliche (beamte), Fürst in Memphis, Bakah, der Gerechtfertigte." Meaning: "...the partner of God in the southern wall, the royal official, Prince in Memphis, Bakah, the righteous." Interpretation: "The helper of God from the southern wall, Bakah, the royal official, Prince in Memphis, the righteous." Here, a man named Bakah is mentioned after Hmunhu, who was an official, a prince, and a righteous man. Hmunhu is therefor the name of an Egyptian man. Hmunhu according to the German Egyptologist: possibly Haman in Arabic/Semitic. The point being that this name does occur in the hieroglyphs, and so it's not a Persian name. This happens: Kim is a name in Korea, but it's also a name in English, Dutch and German (etc.), and so you cannot insist that a name could only belong to one geographic area and/or language, while excluding the possibility that the same name pops up in a different region, in a different language. 9. Alexander the Great. Who says the Quranic story is about Alexander the Great? That's an assumption. I have seen the location the wall was most likely constructed. It's a very narrow gorge with extremely steep and high mountains on both sides; running through a canyon in the Greater Caucasus. The gorge connects south to north, and there's a road there even now. You can find videos of the entire passage (filmed from a car) on YT, and at one point the road passes through a very narrow section, as I said, with very steep and very high mountains on either side. If an army approached from the north, then you could hinder their advancement by constructing a barrier at the narrowest point. Archers could then fire down on the enemy, and they'd have no choice to retreat. It doesn't have to be a gigantic dam at the narrowest point. Whatever structure was erected there has long since disappeared. People could take the materials and re-use them. 10. Dinar means gold, dirham means silver. It denotes value. So he(as) was sold for a few pieces of silver is what that means (obviously). That concludes that. I'm a nobody, no education worth mentioning, and so all of this is coming from a lay-person. For more detailed explanations, I'm sure others who are more qualified than I am have already responded to these points.

[@jakemacory6035]

Whoever believes in the Lord Jesus Christ shall not perish but have everlasting life repent for the kingdom of God is at hand! Jesus is returning to judge the living and the dead

[@AgAkal99]

Thanks for those detailed explanations. I have not seen any response from Smith. He is so happy thinking he killed it, well obviously he didn't. Thanks again

[@XaeeD]

@@AgAkal99 This is 2 years old now. I can further expand and elaborate on several of the points I addressed. I've done an in-depth study of the Syriac Alexander Romance, for example; something I hadn't done at the time (when typing my initial response). It would only make it worse for Jay Smith's bogus critiques. But you're right; nobody's responding, because they have nothing to stand on. These people are just overly confident ignorami. Upon closer examination, their arguments can all be deconstructed.

[@AgAkal99]

@@XaeeD I have been following Jay Smith for some time now, well he seems overly confident and he some times makes arrogant claims while he has no proof, just interpretation and bending the meaning of some Quran verses to what he wants. He thinks destroying Islam will save Christianity, well not really, if Islam is false so is Christianity...

[@emirsahedov]

Hi, I can argue with you on this theme. Can I contact you somewhere or shall we have an argument here?

[@thewordofgod5309]

God bless u, Bro Jay Smith. ❤️🙏✝️🙏❤️

[@andrewdoraiswamy2199]

Excellent video. God Bless.

[@angelnieves2000]

Thank you for all your diligence may God continue to bless your ministry.

[@user-kn6kq6nn1g]

All I have mentioned are just deceptions, and I can respond point by point What is the translation you rely on? Because the translation of some verses is wrong, and while studying a religious text, we must read the original, not the translation Whoever wants to hear the truth about his distortion, let me know

[@oiver9894]

I see a mistake they have here before getting into the link they say samiri means sumarian which is inaccurate and it means in Arabic a stranger this is A B. The whole area is the mosque in islam not the newly built mosques C. The verse in Arabic doesn't mention any coats D. is the opposite in the story of Joseph it mentions a king not a Pharoah and historically it is if you do research which i doubt E. the jesus dying on the cross is not a historical fact all the historians who recorded it were Christian or only heard of it + the Quran says clearly that they thought he was so he didn't deny them recording it F. in Arabic the word اخت doesn't mean a sister all the time it just means that she's from his area G. the verse never mentioned the tower of babel H. the verse no where mentioned Alexander it mentioned another king called tho al karnain I. the verse doesn't mention what we today call dirham it's used to describe current not the same dirhams we know today And from the end of the description we can clearly see that they are just ignorant trying to hate on islam.

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[@dinum4378]

Coincidentally I was just telling a Muslim yesterday how the Pharaohs references makes no sense. The idiot had no idea that Pharaohs were not contemporaries to the death cult. It's almost as if he got all his knowledge of history from Qur'an.

[@MrResearcher122]

Hi friend, can you put your idea clearer? Quran mentions Pharaohs in same way as the Bible.

[@yabesira7351]

@@MrResearcher122 4:31 in the video talks about it.

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[@Malazkafi]

@@yabesira7351 in quran the history is more clear than bible, quran says to the leader in joseph time is a king and in moses time is a pharoh , bible says they are both pharoh, new researches says like quran not bible, please read more then talk.

[@williamgarayua5878]

Dear @@Malazkafi : Watch this video first, then Talk, otherwise you show NO interest on historical accuracy and research but FANATISM; Bye bye Armies of JIHAD!

[@umaireng506]

Sir God bless you.

[@mikegreen2229]

Super cool seeing the video clip of you showing up at Speakers Corner with ALL those different Qurans 😎

[@monogenes3091]

Thank you Dr. Jay Smith and GOD bless you. 👍

[@feister2869]

I see

[@user-kn6kq6nn1g]

All I have mentioned are just deceptions, and I can respond point by point What is the translation you rely on? Because the translation of some verses is wrong, and while studying a religious text, we must read the original, not the translation Whoever wants to hear the truth about his distortion, let me know

[@monogenes3091]

@@user-kn6kq6nn1g So you're saying when Allah made his book alquran, firstly Allah need everyone goes to Arabic class, Is that what you mean?

[@Basaljet]

Its a Qirat Cake!

[@zarqashkhan969]

Intro music is awesome and even more the stuff that u told. God bless u sir

[@dont-click-or-checkmyplaylists]

Lol kzbin.info/www/bejne/mWPSp3yCmMSmgbs

[@mrsviggychillsout4813]

dr jay., thank you for everything. where do I go to understand these words like qiraat and hats etc.. that are often used in videos. sorry, am a newbie

[@lolasobande8663]

It's HAFS not hats; try Google

[@rjn2536]

Amen.. Blessed Warrior of Christ the King!

[@oiver9894]

I see a mistake they have here before getting into the link they say samiri means sumarian which is inaccurate and it means in Arabic a stranger this is A B. The whole area is the mosque in islam not the newly built mosques C. The verse in Arabic doesn't mention any coats D. is the opposite in the story of Joseph it mentions a king not a Pharoah and historically it is if you do research which i doubt E. the jesus dying on the cross is not a historical fact all the historians who recorded it were Christian or only heard of it + the Quran says clearly that they thought he was so he didn't deny them recording it F. in Arabic the word اخت doesn't mean a sister all the time it just means that she's from his area G. the verse never mentioned the tower of babel H. the verse no where mentioned Alexander it mentioned another king called tho al karnain I. the verse doesn't mention what we today call dirham it's used to describe current not the same dirhams we know today And from the end of the description we can clearly see that they are just ignorant trying to hate on islam.

[@allo5170]

@@oiver9894 Let every Muslims, Christians and everyone pray this. Love for God and love of God enter into my heart now, Amen

[@bragiodinsen4604]

@@oiver9894 it cannot mean sumerian, because the quran includes the vowels unlike all other arab texts. there is no magical arab root word reinterpreting allowed when you have to change the vowels

[@oiver9894]

@@bragiodinsen4604 1 there's vowels 2 the quran was memorized the text is just to preserve it more generations have memorized it today there are 300 million people who memorize it by heart the quran is not dependent on the text

[@ngatatan2597]

As for the Mary anachronism, Mary the mother of Jesus is a Jew (of Judah), Mary the sister of Moses is a Levite...

[@user-kn6kq6nn1g]

All I have mentioned are just deceptions, and I can respond point by point What is the translation you rely on? Because the translation of some verses is wrong, and while studying a religious text, we must read the original, not the translation Whoever wants to hear the truth about his distortion, let me know

[@chewbacca138]

Wow! Like all of your videos!

[@interqward1]

Jay Smith, these days when you open your video presentations, your smile is getting broader all the time. ...Wonder why that is? LOL

[@RamoLasiaf]

Greetings, Probably he knows the truth about the Creator of all there is. Al - Fătihah Activation with link by foto Activity with memory by current of hierarchies activation with hierarchy Bismillăhir rahmănir rahîmi (Electric device) Chrominance with current by signal of mechanic with current by link of [șăbdu] (performing) link activity with (standard) hierarchy by current of receptor with [șăbdu] (eye) receptor Activation with hierarchies by (usage) mechanic activity with numerous by current of receptor [șăbdu] with (eye) receptor Activation with (standard) hierarchies by currenting of mechanic with current Al-hamdu lillăhi rabbil 'ălamîna [lăm alif] Activation with (way) link by (assignment/arrangement) hierarchies Activation with mechanic by deliver of utilize with (cable) link by current of link with [șăbdu] (performing) link activity with (standard) hierarchy by current of (eye) receptor Activation with chrominance by [șăbdu] (electric device) chrominance of current with (performing) link {organic, words, physical} activities with (way) link (perform) activation with mechanic by currenting of (possible) numerous activation with Ar - rahmănir rahîmi [lăm alif] Activation with receptor by [șăbdu] (eye) receptor Activation with hierarchies by (usage) mechanic activity with numerous by current of receptor with signals activity with chrominance by deliver of utilize with (eye) receptor Activation with (standard) hierarchies by currenting of mechanic with current by Măliki yaumid - dîn (i) [qăf lăm] (Usage) Mechanic activity with (way) link by (cable) link of current with enlightment by current of (general) system activation with utilize by mechanic of current with deliver by [șăbdu] deliver of currenting with numerous by current of Iyyăka na' budu wa iyyăka nasta' înu [qăf lăm] Current with system by [șăbdu] (society) system activity with (practical) enlightment activation with (possible) numerous activates {organic, words, physical} with chrominance by utilize of deliver with utilize by wavelength Activation with chemical activation with wireless by current of system with [șăbdu] (society) system Activity with (practical) enlightment activation with (possible) numerous activation with signal by memory {tantalum} activates {organic, words, physical} with currenting by numerous of utilize with Ihdinaș șirățal mustaqîma [lăm alif] Current by hierarchy of deliver with current by (possible) numerous activation with signals by [șăbdu] (affirm/digital) signals of current with (eye) receptor Activity with memories {tantalums} activation with (way) link by mechanic of utilize with signal by memory {tantalum} activation with knowledge by currenting of (use) mechanic activation with Șirățal lazîna an' amta 'alaihim [lăm alif, hă] gairil magdubi `alaihim wa lad - d ~ăll [Madd Farq] ~ îna [' aîn] (Affirm/digital) Signals by current of (eye) receptor Activity with memories {tantalums} activation with (way) link by [șăbdu] (perform) link activation with (data) booking by currenting of (possible) numerous Activation with activation with (possible) numerous {organic, words, physical} activation with mechanic by memory {tantalum} Activation with activates {electric} with (way) link by (perform) activation with current by (standard) hierarchy of current with mechanic by ^ library Activation with current by (display) receptor of current with link by (use) mechanic activation with library by delivers of utilizing with (electric device) chrominance by current activates {electric} with (way) link by (perform) link Activation with current by (standard) hierarchy of current with mechanic by wavelength Activation with chemical activation with wireless Activation with (way) link by (perform) Activation with (initiate) delivers by [șăbdu] (create) delivers ~ activity with (way) link by [Madd Farq] ~ (cable) link by currenting of (possible) numerous activation Note - Lăm alif - performing activity with mechanic activation with cable of foto Qăf lăm - understanding with foto performing with mechanic Hă - Hierarchy activity (assignment/arrangement) or software activity 'Aîn - activates {electric} with currenting by numerous Madd Farq - Use mechanic with deliver by signals activity with chrominance by deliver of utilize with deliver by picture with receptor by knowledge. Vowels - A - activation, with (future) I - current, by (present) U - utilize, of (past) Thanks admin. Thanks all

[@interqward1]

@@RamoLasiaf Yep. As I told the Dean of the Electronics Engineering Dept at U. of W.A. (Australia) Prof Yanni Atikiouzel one time: 'in our search for Artificial Intelligence... ...we have found Genuine Stupidity.' He never talked to me again.

[@Tumbleweedpassingby]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/j3S1aaiKipJka9E

[@henktmmr]

Thank you Jay for your honest reporting, always hoping that people find the Truth and may be saved for eternity.

[@analeahmacadatar7784]

Their intention is to extinguish Allah's light (by blowing) with their mouths: But Allah will complete (the revelation of)His light, even though the unbelievers may detest (it) -Qur an Surah As-saff Verse 8

[@oiver9894]

I see a mistake they have here before getting into the link they say samiri means sumarian which is inaccurate and it means in Arabic a stranger this is A B. The whole area is the mosque in islam not the newly built mosques C. The verse in Arabic doesn't mention any coats D. is the opposite in the story of Joseph it mentions a king not a Pharoah and historically it is if you do research which i doubt E. the jesus dying on the cross is not a historical fact all the historians who recorded it were Christian or only heard of it + the Quran says clearly that they thought he was so he didn't deny them recording it F. in Arabic the word اخت doesn't mean a sister all the time it just means that she's from his area G. the verse never mentioned the tower of babel H. the verse no where mentioned Alexander it mentioned another king called tho al karnain I. the verse doesn't mention what we today call dirham it's used to describe current not the same dirhams we know today And from the end of the description we can clearly see that they are just ignorant trying to hate on islam.

[@oiver9894]

@@analeahmacadatar7784 I see a mistake they have here before getting into the link they say samiri means sumarian which is inaccurate and it means in Arabic a stranger this is A B. The whole area is the mosque in islam not the newly built mosques C. The verse in Arabic doesn't mention any coats D. is the opposite in the story of Joseph it mentions a king not a Pharoah and historically it is if you do research which i doubt E. the jesus dying on the cross is not a historical fact all the historians who recorded it were Christian or only heard of it + the Quran says clearly that they thought he was so he didn't deny them recording it F. in Arabic the word اخت doesn't mean a sister all the time it just means that she's from his area G. the verse never mentioned the tower of babel H. the verse no where mentioned Alexander it mentioned another king called tho al karnain I. the verse doesn't mention what we today call dirham it's used to describe current not the same dirhams we know today And from the end of the description we can clearly see that they are just ignorant trying to hate on islam.

[@dont-click-or-checkmyplaylists]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/mWPSp3yCmMSmgbs Good luck,

[@t7zkc5tpxgim28]

May God bless you abundantly man of God

[@JimOverbeckgenius]

The biggest error in the Quran is to deny the Godhead of Jesus of Nazareth whilst saying He is the Word through Whom God created everything.

[@tryjesus749]

Wow the information is mindblowing

[@TempleofChristMinistries]

The reason being is this, that when the Arabs came to Jerusalem when they were conquering the world, at least wise their part of it, they found one thing, that the Jews had prophets and they had a God, and the Christians had a prophet and they had a god, so where was the prophet and god of the Arab nation, if these Nations have one then we should have one also, so they create a history and a connection with the Jewish and Christian god and call our prophet Muhammad as the last prophet of God, what greater power that can unify a nation and inspire it then a prophet and a God, and thus Islam was born, there's one thing man cannot produce and that is a godly truth, no matter how hard man will try to produce a God, he can never do this because he has no idea of what is godly and what is not. What is immaculate and what is not, what is divine and what is not, what is holy and what is not, what is truth and what is not.

[@Dealer_Ss]

arabs are son of prophet Abraham and u son of who ?

[@Dealer_Ss]

@Salih Abdullahi i'm not talking to u but ok Arabs back to adnan and qahtan Adnan they are son of abraham And qahtan im not sure but may they all back to hemir And yes we all sons of adam And adam mean black in arabic and i believe adam was black In hebrew adam mean red And the hebrew language came 100 years after arabic

[@Dealer_Ss]

@Salih Abdullahi cuz this michel talks about we arabs wanna to be like jew and have prophet That's so funny Go to any arab and ask him u wanna be like jews

[@TempleofChristMinistries]

@Salih Abdullahi Christ is the image of God because he is the spirit of God, you have the spirit of man, but Christ is the spirit of God in man, this is the difference, Islam is brought out of the spirit of man, therefore it has no God, the only God in Islam is man, but those who believe in the Christ, believe in the one true living God, because Christ is the light of God, like father like son,

[@TempleofChristMinistries]

@@Dealer_Ss those who are the Sons of Abraham, are the Sons of God, but the Sons of god are not the Sons of God because of the flesh, that is the bloodline, they are son's of God because of spirit, for God is spirit, the true son's of Abraham are those who belong to the Christ, because Christ is the spirit of the father, and those who believe in the Christ, are born of the spirit of the father.

[@Frst2nxt]

Samaritans were named for a capital of the northern kingdom not established until after Solomon's death, centuries after Moses. In egypt the man hung was simply hung, by a rope, not on a cross.

[@moyatem7957]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/j3S1aaiKipJka9E no go to the crucifiction part of this video

[@islamforever64]

@@moyatem7957 thanks for video link

[@mordecake6344]

@@islamforever64 give me the link too plz

[@indonesiakita2545]

Brother Jay in Yeshua Hamashiah, thanks for this film. Indeed. Will you help us more by sharing short clips your debates with Moeslem scholars when they presented this facts. And please make more short simole movie flip like this one. May our Lord Father Yahweh be Shem Yeshua Hamashiah be with you .

[@Heafyshiu]

Brilliant sir. 👍👍👍👍👍

[@opitavengers5341]

Dr. Jay, I thought you were telling us about the Houdini's magic book. Then at the last minute I realized you were talking about the Quran.

[@beliveroneGod]

The journey of the Quran, which began to be revealed to Prophet Muhammad during the month of Ramadan in 610, in its original form to the present day is a characteristic that none of the previous sacred books have. The companions of Prophet Muhammad, who were great people, played an important role in the compilation of the Quran, leaving an interesting story behind. 12 People During the 23 years of Muhammad's time as a prophet, the verses of the Quran were memorized as they were revealed, and about 42 scribes wrote the verses on different materials such as paper, cloth, bone fragments and leather. In ancient times, literacy was a skill that few people had and Muhammad himself did not know how to read or write. During the time of Caliph Abu Bakr, when 70 people who knew the Quran by heart (qari), were killed in the Battle of Yamama, Umar ibn al-Khattab became concerned and appealed to Abu Bakr in order to compile the Quran into a book. Abu Bakr formed a delegation under the leadership of Zaid ibn Thabit, one of the leading scribes. This delegation of 12 people, including famous figures such as Uthman ibn Affan, Ali ibn Abi Talib, Talha ibn Ubaydullah, Abdullah ibn Masood, Ubayy ibn Kab, Khalid ibn al-Walid, Hudhaifah and Saleem, came together in Umar's house and collected all the materials on which verses from the Quran were written. In addition, the verses memorized by the companions were heard as well. Each of them was asked to show two witnesses for the verse they read. Mushaf Thus, all the verses of the Quran that describe the creation of the universe and people, judgment day, exemplary stories of the people who lived before and the beliefs, worship, morals and legal bases that believers should obey were collected together into a single-volume book. Each of the verses was taught by the archangel Gabriel and declared by Prophet Muhammad. The verse is the name given to each sentence of the Quran and the surah is the name given to each part of the holy book. There are 6,236 verses, 114 surahs and about 323,000 letters in the Quran. Saeed ibn al-Aas, who was renowned for the beauty of his handwriting, wrote them down on gazelle skin. The writing used was the Arabic script of the time, which was already old and used commonly at that time in Hejaz. The companions reached a consensus that this writing, which was used by Prophet Ismail in Hejaz, is the writing of Muslims. The copy of the Quran was recited to the companions at a general meeting. There was no objection. So, a book called "mushaf" emerged, which means written verses. A total of 33,000 companions agreed that every letter of the Quran was in the right place. Then this mushaf was sent to Umar ibn al-Khattab. After his death, this book passed on to Hazrat Hafsah, the daughter of Umar and a wife of Prophet Muhammad. Dialect of Quraysh A difference was observed in the recitation of the Quran in the Armenia battles between Muslims from Damascus and Iraq during the period of the third caliph, Uthman. Hudhaifah, one of the companions, went before the caliph on his way back from an expedition and asked him to prevent this. On the 25th year of the hijra (647), Uthman gathered a delegation attended by Abdullah ibn al-Zubair, Saeed ibn al-Aas and Abd al-Rahman ibn Harith under the leadership of Zaid ibn Thabit. All of them, except for Zaid, were from Quraysh. Uthman said that the dialect of Quraysh should be preferred if they were to fall into conflict with Zaid regarding the dialect, since Muhammad was from the Quraysh tribe. The Quran had been revealed in seven dialects of the Arabic language of the time. The first Muslims who were literate could easily read the writing of their own language, but somewhat differently, since at the time the Arabic script did not have diacritical marks to differentiate letters or vowel symbols. For example, those from the Tameem tribe pronounced the letter "sin" as "te" and read the word "nas" as "nat." It was diverse and convenient, and did not change the meaning. The delegation brought the original mushaf from Hafsah. In this mushaf, the surahs were not separated from each other. The surahs were sorted according to the order of their descent in Ali's manuscript and according to their lengths in the manuscript of Abdullah ibn Masood. Now the verses were written in the Quraysh dialect. The surahs were arranged in rows, separated from each other regarding their length and alignment with each other. The order of the surahs was not based on the order the archangel Gabriel gave them to Prophet Muhammad, but on the consensus of the companions. Seven copies The old copies were destroyed to prevent future conflicts. Because of this, there are some Shia sects that accusing Uthman of changing the Quran. From the new copy, some mushafs were also written on parchment and sent to different places such as Bahrain, Damascus, Basra, Kufa, Yemen and Mecca, accompanied by a qari. There are also rumors that copies were sent to Egypt and Jazeera. The copy that stayed with the caliph was called al-Mushaf al-Imam (the head mushaf). There is no difference between the mushafs recited around the world today since they were all copied from original copies. Thus, the Quran was written during Muhammad's lifetime, while its compilation was done during the caliphate of Abu Bakr and it was copied during the caliphate of Uthman. Uthman also established special schools for the correct recitation and writing of the Quran. During the caliphate of Ali, saw the introduction of diacritical marks. During the time of Umayyad Caliph Abd al-Malik, vowel marks were also added. Since then, countless Muslims have memorized the Quran. In the month of Ramadan, the entire Quran is recited in the Tarawih prayer at the Kaaba. Even the slightest mistake can stand out to Muslims who know it well from all around the world. Original mushafs Some of these first seven mushafs have disappeared over time. Today, in Topkapı Palace and the Museum of Turkish-Islamic Arts in Istanbul, there are mushafs from Uthman and Ali's period. One of them was handwritten by Uthman, and the other two by Ali. While the copy in Egypt was in the Mosque of Amr ibn al-Aas, it was presented to Ottoman Sultan Selim II and brought to Topkapı Palace after the conquest of Egypt. Some claim that this is in fact the copy from Medina and that the last survivor of the Abbasid family took it with him while escaping to Egypt from the Mongol massacre. It is said that due to a blood-like stain on it, this is the mushaf that Uthman read while he was martyred. Other mushafs belonging to the first period of Islam are displayed in Al-Hussein Mosque in Cairo, the Bibliotheque Nationale in Paris, the British Library in London, Hast Imam Library in Tashkent and other museums. A newly opened museum in Mecca also features verses of the Quran written on bones and stones. The verses written on rocks and stones in the seventh century in Arabia have also survived to the present day.

[@worldlypersonal1042]

@@beliveroneGod i think the Quran is a French spy novel. Or may be a Russian one? Hihihi. My apologies.

[@suleymanyehya]

@XCS8000 the quran doesn't even mention abt samaritans. Where are u gettin this notion. It just talks abt a man named samiriy and they just linked it to samaritans.

[@adinrocks4305]

@XCS8000 here’s an answer mate, couldn’t explained it better. www.quora.com/What-does-65-4-of-the-Quran-mean-My-translations-are-confusing-me

[@adinrocks4305]

@XCS8000 don’t understand what you wanted to say, but I gave you the link and answer so it’s up to you,,,

[@jesusislord9999]

God bless u sir for this video. I pray for God’s Grace n mercy upon ur life

[@Peter-xf9jy]

Inscription in Hima al-Namur near Hada, Taif: - Kaaba was built 78aH=697f AD كىىــ هدا الكىىــ عامـ ىىى المسحد الحرام لسىه ىماں وسىعىں

[@kafirlindaclark6148]

Dr. Jay, if the Qur'an was truly perfect, as Muslims claim, we would not even be able to discuss it! Because we wouldn't be able to prove the opposite! But because we SEE the inaccuracies in Qur'an, it gives us lots to talk about.

[@daffodilempire4408]

Jesus is not The son of GOD: JESUS IS GOD

[@hashmi8790]

Thinking research and analysis

[@kafirlindaclark6148]

@@daffodilempire4408 Jesus is who he said he is. Why would he tell his deciples to GO AND BAPTISE IN THE NAME (one name) OF THE FATHER, SON AND HOLY SPIRIT? Jesus is both human flesh and YHWH.

[@kafirlindaclark6148]

@Jesus is not The son of GOD I am not deceived by anyone, including you. I study Qur'an and Islamic texts, AND my Bible. I know EXACTLY what those books teach. Jesus said, "Who is the Antichrist, but he who denies the Son and the Father". Go away Antichrist!

[@cassiusalithegoat3286]

What if your just stupid.

[@ExtraEcclesiamNullaSalus]

There difference between the Islam and Christianity.... Christianity left a Church- Christ left leaders he appointed to teach and to preserve Christ's teachings first, which then created the bible. Islam wasn't a Church, but a political amalgomation by caliphs, which tried to then later construct a religion for the territories they conquered.

[@davidmcintosh3468]

The historic anachronisms and factual errors may help point to the actual sources and dates of when the material for the koran was actually compiled … further, if the original material can be identified and contrasted with the corresponding text in the koran, it will identify the bias in the compilers of the koran. A list of biases could identify the background and motivations behind the compilers themselves... nothing happens in a vacuum.

[@dr.gbolaboonasanya2306]

God bless you sir for this revelation

[@TrueMafiya]

Well done Bro. This is one of my favourite topic!

[@dont-click-or-checkmyplaylists]

Nice 👍 kzbin.info/www/bejne/mWPSp3yCmMSmgbs

[@akira9946]

This is the only rebuttal of the Quran I accept. It's the only serious one. Thank you

[@dont-click-or-checkmyplaylists]

Haahahahahahahahaahhahahahahahahahahah kzbin.info/www/bejne/mWPSp3yCmMSmgbucttps://kzbin.info/www/bejne/mWPSp3yCmMSmgbucttps://kzbin.info/www/bejne/mWPSp3yCmMSmgbs

[@yordanoskubrom7096]

God Bless you

[@donatist59]

I am reminded of Jesuit scholar Thomas O'Shaughnessy's comment about "the melee of heresies that passed for Christianity in pre-Islamic Arabia."

[@2adamast]

Nothing wrong with Nestorians unless you're fully invested in the trinity.

[@aqheebpasha1477]

Saamri/Samiri and Samaritan are two different words but this guy is misleading the people. Saamri/Samiri: It refers to rebellious follower of Moses who created the golden calf and attempted to lead the Hebrews into idolatry. Samaritan meaning: A charitable or helpful person. Instead of saamri/samiri this guy has stated about the Samaritan which has a different meaning than saamri/samiri.

[@dont-click-or-checkmyplaylists]

Yeah kzbin.info/www/bejne/mWPSp3yCmMSmgbs

[@AnbuRenzo.]

Oh, u wanna think u debunked it? Debunk me the others.

[@alexagudo9756]

The historical background of the Qur'an is broken, the Qur'an has been revised and supplied.

[@Malazkafi]

Hello sir.. i am a muslim.. would you please tell me.. where can i find these different copies of quran if they exist??? And how many are they?? Do the contradict like the bible copies do??

[@Tumbleweedpassingby]

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[@islamforever64]

@@Tumbleweedpassingby thanks for video link

[@oiver9894]

I see a mistake they have here before getting into the link they say samiri means sumarian which is inaccurate and it means in Arabic a stranger this is A B. The whole area is the mosque in islam not the newly built mosques C. The verse in Arabic doesn't mention any coats D. is the opposite in the story of Joseph it mentions a king not a Pharoah and historically it is if you do research which i doubt E. the jesus dying on the cross is not a historical fact all the historians who recorded it were Christian or only heard of it + the Quran says clearly that they thought he was so he didn't deny them recording it F. in Arabic the word اخت doesn't mean a sister all the time it just means that she's from his area G. the verse never mentioned the tower of babel H. the verse no where mentioned Alexander it mentioned another king called tho al karnain I. the verse doesn't mention what we today call dirham it's used to describe current not the same dirhams we know today And from the end of the description we can clearly see that they are just ignorant trying to hate on islam.

[@richardj8853]

What's the title of the music composition played as the video begins?

[@donatist59]

Alexander the Great was a great engineer -- he besieged Tyre by constructing a land bridge to connect what had been an island to the mainland. But that's a far cry from a metal wall between two mountains!

[@richardthornhill4630]

The Bible is the most authenticated book ever written. It gives numerous specific dates, events, locations, and names specific individuals - NONE of which have by refuted by archaeologist or historians. Pontius Pilate was thought to be an error until the amphitheater was discovered in Caesarea. The Quran events are locations are vague and geographically inaccurate.

[@mariamchannel123]

hello i invite you to watch Muhammad hijab KZbin channel with a open mind peace

[@taheelshahid5615]

God bless U brother; for ur wisdom and research work. God Bless U more and more. Amen

[@user-kn6kq6nn1g]

All I have mentioned are just deceptions, and I can respond point by point What is the translation you rely on? Because the translation of some verses is wrong, and while studying a religious text, we must read the original, not the translation Whoever wants to hear the truth about his distortion, let me know

[@dont-click-or-checkmyplaylists]

Garbage research. kzbin.info/www/bejne/mWPSp3yCmMSmgbucttps://kzbin.info/www/bejne/mWPSp3yCmMSmgbucttps://kzbin.info/www/bejne/mWPSp3yCmMSmgbucttps://kzbin.info/www/bejne/mWPSp3yCmMSmgbs

[@yohanmenny5593]

Thank you Jay. it's gold. God bless you.

[@King_David794]

God bless you Doctor Jay Smith

[@ExtraEcclesiamNullaSalus]

"Preserved by allah" back in the days of caliphs probably had a different understanding than muslims believe today without caliphs. Caliphs were probably the equivalent of the Christian Pope, but while the Pope doesn't change the word of God, and Pope's don't contradict each other in infallible teachings, Caliphs probably set themselves up as the preservators of allah, and therefore changed what they wanted.

[@Tumbleweedpassingby]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/j3S1aaiKipJka9E

[@sleeexs]

popes do

[@JoeMCool]

You should try living up to your chosen handle, Skeptical -- Popes have changed MANNNNNY things of the millennia! 😂

[@ExtraEcclesiamNullaSalus]

@@JoeMCool No they haven't...

[@ExtraEcclesiamNullaSalus]

@Arief Sheik No they didn't. The council merely confirmed what books are the word of God for use in liturgy.

[@yenomrofuoy5444]

The two who pressed the thumbs down button must have found the heat of the truth was unbearable for them. They are so comfortable with muhammad and islam's lies.

[@ZxNaba]

He Wrong in Minutes 3:00 The Quran does not say about when Samiritan was made And the samiri is name Lolz the Quran only says what Allah said in Surah taha Chapter 85 قَالَ فَاِنَّا قَدۡ فَتَـنَّا قَوۡمَكَ مِنۡۢ بَعۡدِكَ وَاَضَلَّهُمُ السَّامِرِىُّ Mean:He (Allah) said, "Indeed, We have tested your people after leaving, and they have been led astray by Samiri. SAMIRI IS NAME STUPID 3:28 Al isra سُبۡحٰنَ الَّذِىۡۤ اَسۡرٰى بِعَبۡدِهٖ لَيۡلًا مِّنَ الۡمَسۡجِدِ الۡحَـرَامِ اِلَى الۡمَسۡجِدِ الۡاَقۡصَا الَّذِىۡ بٰرَكۡنَا حَوۡلَهٗ لِنُرِيَهٗ مِنۡ اٰيٰتِنَا‌ ؕ اِنَّهٗ هُوَ السَّمِيۡعُ الۡبَصِيۡ Mean:Glory be to the One Who took His servant ˹Muḥammad˺ by night from the Sacred Mosque to the Farthest Mosque whose surroundings We have blessed, so that We may show him some of our sign puft, misread Quran? 4:04 وَلَقَدۡ اٰتَيۡنَا دَاوٗدَ مِنَّا فَضۡلًا ؕ يٰجِبَالُ اَوِّبِىۡ مَعَهٗ وَالطَّيۡرَ ۚ وَاَلَــنَّا لَـهُ الۡحَدِيۡدَ Remember human can't change Quran

[@robertruggiero9999]

I think it’s time we non Muslims stopped giving deference to the Muslim book by calling it the Koran. We should instead call it the comic book as it is as laughable as any comic book

[@dont-click-or-checkmyplaylists]

Yessir kzbin.info/www/bejne/mWPSp3yCmMSmgbs

[@jeremyrodriguez324]

I'm just very curious if there's a response to this video. I'm not sure how one would even address these "anachronisms".

[@someonethatisachristian]

Huge thumbs up for this video, Jay!

[@user-kn6kq6nn1g]

All I have mentioned are just deceptions, and I can respond point by point What is the translation you rely on? Because the translation of some verses is wrong, and while studying a religious text, we must read the original, not the translation Whoever wants to hear the truth about his distortion, let me know

[@user-kn6kq6nn1g]

All I have mentioned are just deceptions, and I can respond point by point What is the translation you rely on? Because the translation of some verses is wrong, and while studying a religious text, we must read the original, not the translation Whoever wants to hear the truth about his distortion, let me know

[@someonethatisachristian]

@@user-kn6kq6nn1g Sure I'll help you out: the text with errors are the nestle aland text which modern "scholars" push, it's from 50 bibles in parchment made to emperor Constantine, 2 of them are codex vaticanus and sinaiticus, and the reformers knew about codex vaticanus. So choose a textus receptus based bible, in English that is KJV(or NKJV, which is less faithful to the literal words in greek and hebrew, but more easy to read in modern English). This is the text 95% of the church have used trough history while they have always rejected the nestle aland text (also called critical text or alexandrian text), if you search here on youtube for Jonathan Sheffield or look at my profile you can learn more why.

[@user-kn6kq6nn1g]

@@someonethatisachristian Where is the gospel that was revealed to Jesus? If we were 1400 years ago, I would have discussed these matters with you Leave these things, manuscripts, translations, distortions, etc Follow the book of God, the Qur’an, one book, preserved as God revealed it to Muhammad 1400 years ago, letter by letter So that the gospel that was revealed to Jesus was for the children of Israel and not for the whole world Most Christian theologians acknowledge that Muhammad is the Messenger of God, so follow him, and do not be like the Jews who disbelieved in Jesus.

[@someonethatisachristian]

@@user-kn6kq6nn1g Don't ask me about "the gospel revealed to Jesus", that's a lie you muslims spread. The gospel is the new testament, and the earliest christians did not even need the new testament but preached Jesus in the new testament from the old testament, it was only when it spread out from Israel away from the eye withnesses and apostles the life death and resurrection of Christ was written in the new testament. The quran is the book of satan, and there is no christian anywhere that ever has thought muhammed was a messenger of god, if they claim he was they are not christians or extremely ignorant.

[@theydontlikeitupem7363]

Jay have you come across this book, Sahih Bukhari .. The End of a Myth, I believe its only in Arabic, it was mentioned by one of the guests on your Friend Mels channel Sneakers Corner.

[@reidvanastrea]

@Blue Berry it s a critique of sahih al boukhari

[@prashanthmadhary4950]

Dr.J Smith,you r doing good job,may God bless you abundently & he may use you in his ministry for long time.

[@jameslevara8027]

Made by man and inspired by the great deceiver...

[@George-iv1hi]

And spread by sword,

[@anjaliroymukherji1086]

no not deceiver, actually kuran is written by some deceiver to fool people in the name of allah

[@vuarey]

"allah is the best deceiver" proof: www.answering-islam.org/Shamoun/allah_best_deceiver.htm

[@George-iv1hi]

@@anjaliroymukherji1086 Allah does not exist, so he could not write this stupid book.

[@baconthulu]

Twinkies

[@satmat6566]

Outstanding exposé !!! Undeniable and tangible proofs that everyone could examine abd verify.

[@user-kn6kq6nn1g]

All I have mentioned are just deceptions, and I can respond point by point What is the translation you rely on? Because the translation of some verses is wrong, and while studying a religious text, we must read the original, not the translation Whoever wants to hear the truth about his distortion, let me know

[@satmat6566]

@@user-kn6kq6nn1g What is your point???

[@oiver9894]

I see a mistake they have here before getting into the link they say samiri means sumarian which is inaccurate and it means in Arabic a stranger this is A B. The whole area is the mosque in islam not the newly built mosques C. The verse in Arabic doesn't mention any coats D. is the opposite in the story of Joseph it mentions a king not a Pharoah and historically it is if you do research which i doubt E. the jesus dying on the cross is not a historical fact all the historians who recorded it were Christian or only heard of it + the Quran says clearly that they thought he was so he didn't deny them recording it F. in Arabic the word اخت doesn't mean a sister all the time it just means that she's from his area G. the verse never mentioned the tower of babel H. the verse no where mentioned Alexander it mentioned another king called tho al karnain I. the verse doesn't mention what we today call dirham it's used to describe current not the same dirhams we know today And from the end of the description we can clearly see that they are just ignorant trying to hate on islam.

[@satmat6566]

@@oiver9894 Desperate and out of context arguments !! Koran is a man made book so mistakes and errors will abound in various ways!!

[@oiver9894]

@@satmat6566 and Deuteronomy 18:18 tells you about a prophet who's not from the Israelites who will come read the whole chapter if you want so no according to your bible he's not from man

[@TheBornfree83]

shouldnt the farthest mosque be the one in canton, china?

[@noobfighter8262]

It was also build later

[@blindvision4703]

Hey, Dr. Smith. I didn’t tune in very much to the debate between you and Dr. David Wood about whether Mohammed was a real person or not. Could you tell me if there was a clear Victor that debate, and if so who? Just curious. I don’t know if David is going to make a video on the topic or not.

[@nacanieliraboiliku7470]

Thank you for your holy crusade.

[@sislertx]

May i inquire WHICH KORAN...lol

[@gussetma1945]

Upon reading the Koran, the first thing a knowledgeable reader notices is the borrowing.

[@houssemalayet7194]

The same borrowing you find in the Bible from older religions and myths ? Like the ones about creation, the flood etc. There are numerous stories in the Bible that are taken directly from or inspired by earlier pagan stories. For example, we know the Epic of Gilgamesh is far older than the Book of Genesis, so either the story of Noah’s Flood was copied from the Epic or they both developed from a common, earlier source. Some of Psalms and some of the proverbs in the Book of Proverbs have counterparts in earlier Egyptian culture, leading scholars to believe they originated in Egypt, and quite close parallels exist in three passages. Egyptian Influences on the Biblical Text says: Psalm 104, a creation psalm, shares a number of motifs with the Great Hymn to the Aten from the Amarna period (14th-13th centuries B.C.E.). In the book of Proverbs, a whole paragraph (Prov 22:17-24:22) draws on an Egyptian wisdom text (the Instruction of Amenemope). And in the prophetic books, one of the oracles against Egypt seems to have been composed using an Egyptian tradition (Isa 19 and the Egyptian Oracle of the Potter). Dennis R. MacDonald, in The Homeric Epics and the Gospel of Mark, has identified a considerable amount of material in Mark’s Gospel, such as the story of the demoniac who gave the name ‘Legion’ when asked his name, that appears to have been derived from Homer’s Epics. Much of this material was copied into Matthew and Luke, then into John. Acts of the Apostles appears to have based its story of the conversion on the road to Damascus and the prison escapes of both Peter and Paul, on the ancient play, the Bacchae by Euripides.

[@Tumbleweedpassingby]

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[@gussetma1945]

@@houssemalayet7194 We don't claim that the Bible has existed from all eternity in Heaven with God.

[@gussetma1945]

@@houssemalayet7194 So, Allah, from all eternity, included garbled versions of non-canonical gospels, the Talmud and pagan legends in his holy book. Following your logic, the moon god was so dim he didn’t realize that including this stuff make us suspects that his holy was a giant fraud.

[@jamesbeebe2870]

@@houssemalayet7194 So then the Quran is full of shit. Since it gets its authority from the assumption that islam is a continuation of the OT (and arguably the NT) narratives. So if OT and NT are plagiarized - which you haven't proven you just clearly copy pasted some wiki shit up - and fallacious then what's the Quran? The Quranic narrative requires the assumption of the Bible being divinely inspired at the least and the word of god at most, because it constantly refers back to the OT and NT for authority and history. Like the ismailite narrative of arab origin for instance. Kind of funny how all those critiques of yours could be applied to your book.

[@rainerlanglotz3134]

About "C". Contemporary archeology has it that iron age in Palestine started ~1130 BC. According to septuagint chronology (that is the OT-version from which the new testament constantly quotes) David became King of Juda in 1129 BC. Thus the Quran is correct to ascribe the processing of iron to Davids time. We have no clue if David himself was involved in iron manufacture but it cannot be ruled out either.

[@neilanadams5173]

Fascinating!

[@dont-click-or-checkmyplaylists]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/mWPSp3yCmMSmgbs Good luck,

[@BananaYT]

Their was a Jewish historian that proved their was a wise man named Jesus during that time.

[@dont-click-or-checkmyplaylists]

Who? kzbin.info/www/bejne/mWPSp3yCmMSmgbs

[@AlphaOmega888]

Muhammad Asad actually put that Muhammad is a FATHER to believers BACK INTO the Quran: - Surat 33:6 "The Prophet has a higher claim on the believers than [they have on] their own selves, [seeing that *he is as a father to them]* and his wives are their mothers…" -Muhammad Asad translation actually re-inserts this back into Quran. - "The Prophet is closer to the Believers than their own selves, and his wives are their mothers..." "...In some Qiraats, like that of Ubai ibn Kab, occur also the word *"and he is a father to them..."* (A. Yusuf Ali, The Holy Quran, 1975, note 3674). - *"He is a father to them,"* but it is *no longer* recited since it is *at variance* with the version of ‘Uthman. -(Muhammad Messenger of Allah (Ash-Shifa of Qadi 'Iyad), Qadi 'Iyad Musa al-Yahsubi, translated by Aisha Abdarrahman Bewley [Madinah Press, Inverness, Scotland, U.K. 1991] - Today the Qur'an has approximately 78,090 Arabic words Compared to 77,439 words in 10th century, that is at least 651 words different: "According to the statement of Ubayy ibn Ka'b the total number of the verses of the Qur'an is 6,210. The total of the surahs of the Qur'an according to the statement of 'Ata ibn Yasar is 114 its verses are 6,170, its words 77,439, and its letters 323,015. According to the statement of 'Asim al-Jahdari, there are 113 surahs. The total number of verses of the Qur'an as stated by Yahya ibn al-Harith al--Dhamari is 6,226, while its letters are 321,530." -The Fihrist (p.62) (tenth century) - "Some of the parchment pages in the Yemeni hoard seemed to date back to the seventh and eighth centuries A.D.., some of these fragments revealed small but intriguing *aberrations* from the standard Koranic text. Such aberrations, though not surprising to textual historians, are troublingly at odds with the orthodox Muslim belief that the Koran as it has reached us today is quite simply the perfect, timeless, and unchanging Word of God." -Jan. 1999 Atlantic Monthly (p.43-56) - 'Ubai bin Ka'b, one of Mohammed's secretaries, has extra suras, and omits about 12 suras in the Qur'an today. (The Fihrist p.61 footnotes 43-48) Abu Musa, of Basra, also had a text that was the same as 'Ubai's. (Suyuti, Itqan I, p. 65; Ibn Abi Dawud, Masahif, pp. 180-181, also Noeldeke, Geschichte des Quran's, pp. 33-38.)

[@lolasobande8663]

Tanx; very Informative.

[@Tumbleweedpassingby]

Dirham is the Arabic version of the drachma and you can look up the pre-Islamic poet of Antara ibn shaddad that mentions the word dirham.

[@faisalibrahim2297]

Second, in Quaran there was no Pharoah in the time of Yusuf. There was at that time at that location as per the Quran "Malik" which means "King"

[@dont-click-or-checkmyplaylists]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/mWPSp3yCmMSmgbucttps://kzbin.info/www/bejne/mWPSp3yCmMSmgbs Good luck,

yes, so true. Great video

[@abutorab2914]

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[@dont-click-or-checkmyplaylists]

No kzbin.info/www/bejne/mWPSp3yCmMSmgbs

[@Peter-xf9jy]

the Qurans say: "Mention in the book!" does that sound precreated or uncreated ?

[@Peter-xf9jy]

and "this is the word of a ... messenger." freudian lapsus ??

[@a-the-1st324]

No matter what the fools are trying to prove but monotheism is not a property of biblical triune gods & the Jews! Every monotheist tried their best to preserve the law of monotheism properly. But on the Day when the Hour rises, the preserved book of the heaven will testify which book is the pure 1.

[@mrb2315]

@RetroMan It never was a religion. Just a cult.

[@OrotiqueProductions]

Hi Jay, good to see you. I was on one of your very first British Museum tours in 2009 (?) when you were in the UK and taught in KT.....

[@MarioPoluan]

Sir, can you give Indonesian subtitles. It will helps a lot.. God bless you

[@lilikkrismantoro2027]

I don't think Jay Smith can speak Indonesian, it is your duty to help him.

[@suelove1442]

Don't relaying just on translation because thats one of the reason the book got corrupted, instead try to learn in aramic,.

[@oiver9894]

I see a mistake they have here before getting into the link they say samiri means sumarian which is inaccurate and it means in Arabic a stranger this is A B. The whole area is the mosque in islam not the newly built mosques C. The verse in Arabic doesn't mention any coats D. is the opposite in the story of Joseph it mentions a king not a Pharoah and historically it is if you do research which i doubt E. the jesus dying on the cross is not a historical fact all the historians who recorded it were Christian or only heard of it + the Quran says clearly that they thought he was so he didn't deny them recording it F. in Arabic the word اخت doesn't mean a sister all the time it just means that she's from his area G. the verse never mentioned the tower of babel H. the verse no where mentioned Alexander it mentioned another king called tho al karnain I. the verse doesn't mention what we today call dirham it's used to describe current not the same dirhams we know today And from the end of the description we can clearly see that they are just ignorant trying to hate on islam.

[@kamarudinhj.dolmoin8578]

Indonesian Christians are helplessly desperate to counter effective rational Islamic dakwah..

[@kamarudinhj.dolmoin8578]

@@oiver9894 right on!

[@willliammensah5053]

I like you so much sir for what you are doing for God at this time. Keep exposing these group of liars for us.🙌🏻🙌🏻🙏🙏🙏

[@user-kn6kq6nn1g]

All I have mentioned are just deceptions, and I can respond point by point What is the translation you rely on? Because the translation of some verses is wrong, and while studying a religious text, we must read the original, not the translation Whoever wants to hear the truth about his distortion, let me know

[@oiver9894]

I see a mistake they have here before getting into the link they say samiri means sumarian which is inaccurate and it means in Arabic a stranger this is A B. The whole area is the mosque in islam not the newly built mosques C. The verse in Arabic doesn't mention any coats D. is the opposite in the story of Joseph it mentions a king not a Pharoah and historically it is if you do research which i doubt E. the jesus dying on the cross is not a historical fact all the historians who recorded it were Christian or only heard of it + the Quran says clearly that they thought he was so he didn't deny them recording it F. in Arabic the word اخت doesn't mean a sister all the time it just means that she's from his area G. the verse never mentioned the tower of babel H. the verse no where mentioned Alexander it mentioned another king called tho al karnain I. the verse doesn't mention what we today call dirham it's used to describe current not the same dirhams we know today And from the end of the description we can clearly see that they are just ignorant trying to hate on islam.

[@dont-click-or-checkmyplaylists]

Okay 😂 kzbin.info/www/bejne/mWPSp3yCmMSmgbs

[@hasnathabdullah1253]

Lol 'masjidul aqsa' means A mosque which is far .. Lol you really made me laugh .... On the time of Muhammad (pbuh) people used to refer it as 'a mosque which is far' then as time went muslims call it masjidul aqsa

[@mannuny]

May god bless u ...

[@jamalkhan3708]

God bless Dr Jay Smith ✊❤️

[@user-kn6kq6nn1g]

All I have mentioned are just deceptions, and I can respond point by point What is the translation you rely on? Because the translation of some verses is wrong, and while studying a religious text, we must read the original, not the translation Whoever wants to hear the truth about his distortion, let me know

[@R-rr1]

@@user-kn6kq6nn1g rage in peace😂😂

[@esthoosampule129]

Jay Smith saying TRILLION thanks is a very small and tiny word to say you on your this research based video because it’s an EYES opening for all positive thinkers and the beauty is it's based on truth which is full of Historical FACTS on Islam and on Christianity dear Jay Smith I PRAY May LORD God Almighty bless you and your team more, SO keep teaching thanks in the name of JESUS.

[@ngatatan2597]

Jay, check out ibn Hazm of Andalus who was the first Muslim who did comparative scripture to find that the Qur'an is completely contradicted by the Bible in a 792ad. In reaching his conclusion that the Bible has been corrected, ibn Hazm had to acknowledge that the early Muslims including Muhammad and the Rashidun ALL acknowledged the veracity and authority of the Bible. The "myth" of the perfect preservation of the Qur'an and the corruption of the Bible was hence concocted... From this key discovery by ibn Hazm.

[@dont-click-or-checkmyplaylists]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/mWPSp3yCmMSmgbs Ok lol

[@rainerlanglotz3134]

About "H" Quranic "Dhul Qarnain" is not Alexander the Great although some old quranic commentaries claim that. Yemenite chronicles mention "Dhul Qarnain" as an early yemenite King who lived few generations after Noahs flood. He may well be an early prophet like Hud and Salih - filling the gap between Noah and Abraham.

[@greenzone7371]

Tafsil of ibn Jay Smith abdulalla 😁 explains that Quran is made by man.

[@hahaloser3914]

jay smith is in his own world, can split lies everyday about quran

[@gallonsham5863]

God Jesus Christ bless you Dr. Jay Smith... Amen. 🙏🙏🙏

[@jackoliver7024]

if Jesus is God then how many God do you have? John 20:17.. who is the God of Jesus?

[@pebblesintheshoe4438]

@@jackoliver7024 - Tried, tested and answered again again. Will give you the answer here. However, you will still keep asking the same question again and again. Thick skin and thick brain. THERE IS ONLY ONE GOD. ONE GOD in THREE PERSONS. NOT THREE GODS.

[@jackoliver7024]

@@pebblesintheshoe4438 where can you read that there are 3 persons in one God and all these 3 persons are co Equal God, what verse. The problem with you is that the Catholic who's the originator of this dogma admitted that the Dogma of Trinity is not scriptural, but you keep insisting that it is, so where can you read the dogma of Trinity in the Bible? Remember, just ONE MISTAKE means you are in a false religion having false belief, go ahead show the verse.

[@pebblesintheshoe4438]

@@jackoliver7024 - Oh really?? You have all this “knowledge” of the originator of the dogma saying its not scriptural and stuff. And you didn’t take time to investigate the verses of the Trinity? A simple Google search would have done the trick. I did that simple search for you - go ahead read it - overviewbible.com/trinity-bible-verses/ And then come back again unlearned and ask the same questions again here and in other posts. Stay in the same class all your life. Never learn and go to next stage. Also, don’t speak in the air. Who is this dogma originator? Is there a name to this person?

[@pebblesintheshoe4438]

@@jackoliver7024 - What does the Bible teach about the Trinity? - www.gotquestions.org/Trinity-Bible.html

[@Monotheism]

is there any chance to connect with Jay smith? or does he only speak to famous people?

[@jeffyoungdeacons1475]

Is there any record that Muhammad had a facebook account? Just asking... I would like to add him as a friend.

[@Tai91827]

How did Muslims practice Islam in the 7th and 8th century?. The hadith collections were written approx over 250 years after Muhammads death (Bukhari etc) and Muslims claim the Quran was completed in the time of Uthman, but as you know, you need the hadith collections to understand the Quran. The question here is how did Muslims practice Islam during this 250 year period? For example, I am a Muslim living in 8th century Ummayad Spain, the Quran tells me to give zakat, how would I know how much to pay? how would I know who has memorised the hadith regarding zakat? (That person could be thousands of miles away in Iran) how would I know if its reliable? (as hadith are graded as sahih, hasan etc). Muslims will more then likely say hadith collections would have been shared via oral transmission, this still wouldn't make sense as information didnt travel at the speed it does today, we are talking about hundreds of thousands of hadith (not a handful) and the hadith collections were not graded untill the collectors came centuries later. This suggests to me that the Quran must have been created and written around the time the hadith collections and seera of Muhammad were being compiled and written, which is centuries after Muhammads death, meaning the Quran had nothing to do with Muhammad and the whole traditional narrative on the Quran is false.

[@mariamchannel123]

hello i invite you to watch the KZbin channel of farid responds with a open mind(especially his video called "no need for Sahih Bukhari"peace

[@thewordrevealsgod.7744]

The quran is split in two Then shreded Like the moon. And the lamb mohammad ate That poisiond him.

[@Malazkafi]

Have you ever read quran ??

[@thewordrevealsgod.7744]

@@Malazkafi not read is more look at. Because the quran is not history ore a story from beginning to end. It is more vers to vers. Mixture

[@Malazkafi]

@@thewordrevealsgod.7744 you are partialy correct.. it is verse to verse but my dear some verses tell history.. some verses are a story others talk about science and some talk about faith , any way it is not a picture it is a group of letters so you will read it at the end .. and you cannot pick certain verses about war and leave those that talk about mercy that not only in quran in the bible and in any book.. you read it all to have a general look not partial short view

[@Malazkafi]

And that still dont answer my queation.. i dont think you read it...i invite you to read quran with translation...from a muslim friend

[@thewordrevealsgod.7744]

@@Malazkafi i read it my friend. I have come to the conclusion that the quran. Central message is allah JESUS And allah revelations. It is a book with allot of mixture From difrent jew and christians Secterian books. And yes also litle christian and jew sectetian storys of apocrifa. Mohammas is only mention 4 times by name it is most about JESUS.