History-Makers: Homer

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Overly Sarcastic Productions

Overly Sarcastic Productions

5 жыл бұрын

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"History-Makers" is a new series from Blue, digging into the backstories of history's most influential writers and their great works. We begin at the beginning, with the Greek poet Homer, trying to figure out how exactly he wound up with the Iliad and Odyssey!
Let me know which History-Maker you'd like me to cover in the comments below!
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@richeybaumann1755
@richeybaumann1755 2 жыл бұрын
I like to imagine Homer, this old blind dude, just standing up in front of his audience, probably leaning on a stick or something, and suddenly rapping the entire Illiad flawlessly.
@DarthWoodrack
@DarthWoodrack Жыл бұрын
A two hour rap at 7.2 words a second
@xryeau_1760
@xryeau_1760 3 ай бұрын
​@@DarthWoodrackTop 10 Rappers Eminem is Afraid to Diss
@dbach1025
@dbach1025 Ай бұрын
Followed by a lively retort, ending in an epic rap battle.
@brettshair3151
@brettshair3151 5 жыл бұрын
Of course, Homer~ The composer of Troy Story and Troy Story 2
@geekgo4
@geekgo4 5 жыл бұрын
@Jon A. ...and Troy Story 4?
@Reyrocksall
@Reyrocksall 5 жыл бұрын
You got an epic in me.... you got an epic in me
@BeckettBaladas
@BeckettBaladas 5 жыл бұрын
@Jon A. Red did the "Troy Story" pun in her video on the Iliad, you probably knew it from there
@pancakes4552
@pancakes4552 5 жыл бұрын
All of Jimin's Jams Namjoon stole lmao troy story
@Nick-dc3vv
@Nick-dc3vv 5 жыл бұрын
i guess Achilles has a friend in Patroclus
@poweroffriendship2.0
@poweroffriendship2.0 5 жыл бұрын
*Achilles:* [hits Hector with the chair] *Hector:* _DO'H!!! I CAN'T BELIEVE YOU'VE DONE THIS!!!_ [dies]
@brettshair3151
@brettshair3151 5 жыл бұрын
Wait..... Is that a vine reference?
@221b
@221b 5 жыл бұрын
It's spelled "annoyed grunt."
@zillasaul
@zillasaul 5 жыл бұрын
@@brettshair3151 it's not from a vine, but a much much older youtube video
@brettshair3151
@brettshair3151 5 жыл бұрын
@@zillasaul ooooooh!!! Thanks!!!
@VanNessy97
@VanNessy97 4 жыл бұрын
That's a funny way to spell "aw fuck"
@Estarfigam
@Estarfigam 5 жыл бұрын
Before the MCU there was the GBU (Greek Bardic Universe)
@ivansaniel1659
@ivansaniel1659 5 жыл бұрын
It was once the boldest crossover of history...... And the most confusing before the dceu
@judiejodia
@judiejodia 5 жыл бұрын
I mean, greek myth WAS canonized into thinhbs called the Trojan cycle and Theban cycle and so on....so yeah they did have EU'S exactly like we did!!
@faunina669
@faunina669 5 жыл бұрын
Personally, i love the acronym HEU (Homeric Epic Universe or Homeric Extended Universe) looks like heureka, too
@nobertosanchez647
@nobertosanchez647 4 жыл бұрын
And it all wrapped up awesomely in endgame, well kind of sort of, because *spoiler alert*... Kratos kills everyone.
@isadorablehope5688
@isadorablehope5688 4 жыл бұрын
This is one of the best things I’ve seen all day
@KnowingBetter
@KnowingBetter 5 жыл бұрын
So Homer is basically the Walt Disney of Ancient Greece...
@bloodraven7237
@bloodraven7237 5 жыл бұрын
Or hes a time traveler
@kaleidoslug7777
@kaleidoslug7777 5 жыл бұрын
Dude, YES
@alexey926
@alexey926 5 жыл бұрын
Knowing Better Your videos are the freaking bomb. I love how rational and logical you are in approaching some really political/controversial topics. Most above all, you do your research and it always shows.
@1Heirborn
@1Heirborn 4 жыл бұрын
Homer laid the groundwork for Joss Whedon
@PikaPenny17
@PikaPenny17 4 жыл бұрын
I read that at the same time as a Disney ad.
@wargriffin5
@wargriffin5 5 жыл бұрын
Wait, the Iliad and Odyssey are supposed to be sung?...….. Now, this is a story; All about how, the city of Troy turned upside down.....
@emperoroftheuniverse5950
@emperoroftheuniverse5950 5 жыл бұрын
Now take a little moment just sit right there and ill tell you how I became basileus of a little town called troy
@williamwyckoff
@williamwyckoff 5 жыл бұрын
In Mycenaean Greece, kinged and raised On the battlefield is where I spent most of my days Chillin' out maxin' relaxin' all cool And all throwin some javelins outside of the temple When a couple of princes who were up to no good Started making trouble with my marriage-hood She got in one little ship and I got scared I said, "We're goin' to war with my army to a city called Troy"
@faristasairuv5143
@faristasairuv5143 5 жыл бұрын
I read all of that to the tune.
@thegreen3918
@thegreen3918 5 жыл бұрын
Same
@michaelweiske702
@michaelweiske702 4 жыл бұрын
The lack of rhyming makes me very nettled.
@yoschiii
@yoschiii 5 жыл бұрын
Is nobody going to say anything about the Baby Blue Bowl cut? No? Ok
@OverlySarcasticProductions
@OverlySarcasticProductions 5 жыл бұрын
I didn't always have this glorious, flowing, two-dimensional, black-and-white mane. -B
@jonsnor4313
@jonsnor4313 5 жыл бұрын
He stil has this arrogant smug i know better look XD we all love.
@Lolo50000
@Lolo50000 5 жыл бұрын
@@jonsnor4313 meaner than I think you were going for
@jonsnor4313
@jonsnor4313 5 жыл бұрын
Sorry he looks cute in a funny way doing that boss pose. I was trying tobe sarcastic, but i guess that didnt work. And i think its brave to put out a kids picture. O would be embarrassed
@Lolo50000
@Lolo50000 5 жыл бұрын
XD yh I agree. And you're right, and I'm sure everything was meant in jest
@stravickovmahn9505
@stravickovmahn9505 5 жыл бұрын
I don't know what's better, the idea of Greek poets having enough stock in their back pocket the spin epic battles 8 Mile style. Or Homer creating his own version of Marvel Cinematic Universe thousands of years ago
@PixelPower0615
@PixelPower0615 5 жыл бұрын
Definitely the Homer Cinematic Universe (HCU) Including, but not limited to The Troy Story Saga
@wratchedlore5015
@wratchedlore5015 5 жыл бұрын
@@PixelPower0615 Don't forget the great Golden Fleece crossover event.
@joeb8935
@joeb8935 5 жыл бұрын
Now i really want to see a rap battle against ancient bards
@wratchedlore5015
@wratchedlore5015 5 жыл бұрын
@@joeb8935 All rap battles are are modern takes on the same concept.
@racoon251
@racoon251 3 жыл бұрын
no
@cindysarangay3686
@cindysarangay3686 5 жыл бұрын
I swear, every time I click on an OSP video I always think I've learned the topic enough only to get blasted with knowledge Blue and Red probably had to fish from the remnants of the Library of Alexandria to get. Well done, guys. A++ content as always. 👌
@BootsThaRareBirb
@BootsThaRareBirb 5 жыл бұрын
Cindy Sarangay Well, Blue did travel back and time and steal the Library of Alexandra, Braniac-style. So, that is entirely plausible, especially with Google Translate.
@artemiswolf4508
@artemiswolf4508 5 жыл бұрын
I like to think that after the apocalypse, when civilization gets rebuilt there will be historians dedicated to study the infinity war saga and there’s going to be a bunch of crazy theories for things that don’t make sense to them. “So this Spider-Man character seems to have a big, pronounce introduction to the story even tho his involvement was minimal overall, his origin story isn’t even mentioned. We think he was a massively worship deity BEFORE the infinity war saga” “We have concluded that there most be a story bit missing between Thor and Thor Ragnarok, but why the ancient ones decided not to mention it, that we may never know” “Guardians of the Galaxy was written hundreds of years after the original text and then retroactively inserted, because boy it does not make tonal sense with the rest of the narrative” “Iron man is clearly a more modern interpretation of the god Batman made by another civilization, the similarities are just too many” “The winter soldier and Capitan America where lovers, is barely even subtext”
@CrimsonBlasphemy
@CrimsonBlasphemy 5 жыл бұрын
Don't forget the great Bio-Magician Stan Lee and his scribe Jack Kirby. Stan Lee appears to have been responsible for the syrup of Captain America, the Radiation of Hulk, the Radiation Spider, and the magical X-Pants that turned teenages into Demi-gods.
@artemiswolf4508
@artemiswolf4508 5 жыл бұрын
Connor Marlow oh yes tons
@cucaulwell1287
@cucaulwell1287 5 жыл бұрын
Spidey is definitely the Quetzalcoatl of the MCU
@Jak239JC
@Jak239JC 5 жыл бұрын
With all the different movie versions of spider-man I can imagine more confusion.
@faristasairuv5143
@faristasairuv5143 5 жыл бұрын
Let’s just hope they only find canon content and not the FANFICTIONS. Because some of the fanfics I’ve read and/or come across are ... dear God.
@artemiswolf4508
@artemiswolf4508 5 жыл бұрын
So the Iliad is Homer’s dark gritty reboot of an already existing story? Is Homer the Tim Burton of Ancient Greece?
@Metaphysicist
@Metaphysicist 4 жыл бұрын
Zach Synder.
@DragonbIaze052
@DragonbIaze052 Жыл бұрын
Tim Burton isn't gritty, he's whimsical in his darkness.
@homelesskiller
@homelesskiller 5 ай бұрын
No it’s an accurate retelling that was inspired by the muses
@Skipston55
@Skipston55 5 жыл бұрын
... this was posted the exact minute I finished my Iliad Final. I'm not sure whether to be happy or furious.
@spencerlemon2679
@spencerlemon2679 5 жыл бұрын
I dunno... seems a lil suspich
@shadowpuppet8192
@shadowpuppet8192 5 жыл бұрын
You could be happorious!
@chogak
@chogak 5 жыл бұрын
Well, it's a lesson either way.
@thepoorsquire
@thepoorsquire 2 жыл бұрын
Channel your Achilles rage and refuse to accept your grade unless your teacher apologizes in front of the whole class.
@monduvdsan
@monduvdsan 5 жыл бұрын
"MCU is the Epic cycle of the modern Era" *Smashes like button* Absolutly yes, I think the same.
@suolympics7895
@suolympics7895 5 жыл бұрын
I hadn't thought of it, but holy shit it makes so much sense.
@iamhungey12345
@iamhungey12345 5 жыл бұрын
I know right?
@taylor_green_9
@taylor_green_9 5 жыл бұрын
Some remote corner of my brain totally knew this, but I'd've never become aware of it without Blue pointing it out. He's 100% right
@devyncabral2198
@devyncabral2198 5 жыл бұрын
That never crossed my mind until now, he’s right
@DavidbarZeus1
@DavidbarZeus1 3 жыл бұрын
Here's a scary note: the oldest copy we have of Homer's works dates to more than a millennium after Homer died, about 300 AD.
@darkrai6543
@darkrai6543 5 жыл бұрын
It's okay Blue, you can just say that it's ancient fanfiction.
@grafvonscyth2928
@grafvonscyth2928 2 жыл бұрын
I mean let's face it, most mythology is functionally fanfiction.
@anemonenaur8468
@anemonenaur8468 2 жыл бұрын
@@grafvonscyth2928 all mythology is fan fiction
@levkrasovsky4920
@levkrasovsky4920 5 жыл бұрын
The inclusion of "We are Number One" lyrics cracked me up so hard when I noticed them! XD
@gretablackwell495
@gretablackwell495 5 жыл бұрын
But not the lyrics to All Star?
@nowhereman6019
@nowhereman6019 5 жыл бұрын
I hope that some time in the future someone is going to write "The World War" and get locations, people and battles mixed up and then even farther into the future this guy will be a mythical writer.
@wickederebus
@wickederebus 5 жыл бұрын
Catch 22
@redactedz6146
@redactedz6146 5 жыл бұрын
Don't worry eventually civilization would start anew and we would be mythical beings in there religion my dude
@DukeofTxtspeak
@DukeofTxtspeak 2 жыл бұрын
Oh yeah, that guy will be me for certain.
@emperortransman
@emperortransman 2 жыл бұрын
If you read any historical fiction, you'll see lots of incorrect stuff.
@wesleythomas7125
@wesleythomas7125 2 жыл бұрын
"Far back in the mists of time, before the Column of Fire ate Neo Yoruk and Kali'Forniae fell into the sea, there were the three mighty empires of You-Rope..."
@korben600
@korben600 5 жыл бұрын
Can you *PLEASE* elaborate on that MCU = Epic Cycle theory? Comics + history? That sounds AMAZING.
@OverlySarcasticProductions
@OverlySarcasticProductions 5 жыл бұрын
Philosophical Phridays Volume 2, chapter 22, page 267. Have fun :) -B
@korben600
@korben600 5 жыл бұрын
@@OverlySarcasticProductions I haven't bought an actual book in months, because I'm a cheapskate and the internet exists...but dammit, 8 bucks for that kind of analysis is a steal! I am now the proud digital owner of this sacred tome...
@JaelaOrdo
@JaelaOrdo 5 жыл бұрын
“The difficulty is not so great to die for a friend, as to find a friend worth dying for.” -Homer
@DukeofTxtspeak
@DukeofTxtspeak 2 жыл бұрын
This is painfully correct.
@amyfiori3118
@amyfiori3118 3 жыл бұрын
"If you're famously blind, that's got to put a bit of a damper on your writing capabilities". Here we see where Red and Blue differ. If this were a Red video, I GUARANTEE Toph would have shown up at some point in that sentence.
@kyrab7914
@kyrab7914 10 ай бұрын
Honestly, strong possibility blind ppl had an easier time with cuneiform and tablets
@s.j.wormwood8946
@s.j.wormwood8946 4 ай бұрын
@@kyrab7914oooo that’s actually an interesting possibility
@owneyw4374
@owneyw4374 5 жыл бұрын
So hyped! Can't wait for the new series! Homer was wack, bro.
@bushdidharambe4219
@bushdidharambe4219 5 жыл бұрын
Don't do Homer kids, it'll fuck up your brain.
@dayalasingh5853
@dayalasingh5853 5 жыл бұрын
Womer was hack, bro.
@nickshaffer80
@nickshaffer80 5 жыл бұрын
Homeric Cinematic Universe when?! Iliad, Odyssey (and Aeneid, the black sheep)
@kaleidoslug7777
@kaleidoslug7777 5 жыл бұрын
Iron Man, Iron Man 2 & Iron Man 3, respectively (altho I like IM3)
@shounenbat510
@shounenbat510 5 жыл бұрын
Don't forget the Oresteia trilogy!
@Punaparta
@Punaparta 5 жыл бұрын
As a Finn, I enjoy the interesting comparison between this and my people's national epic, the Kalevala, published by one Elias Lönnrot in 1848. He composed the epic by visiting numerous bards in rural Karelia and listening to the poems they had memorised. He believed these poems to have originated from prehistoric, pagan Iron Age Finland from circa 6th to 13th centuries. The complete epic was constructed by putting the poems in an order that made a coherent story, with some editor's additions for explaining matters as the mysterious Sampo (which was not described in the original poems beyond being the target of many characters' desire; Lönnrot interpreted it as a magical mill that would produce boundless amounts of grain, salt, and gold). Later in his life, Lönnrot claimed that the poems he had collected could have been shaped into ten alternate and equally narratively coherent version of the Kalevala. Incidentally, one of Lönnrot's most valuable sources, Miihkali Perttunen, was also blind.
@paweandonisgawralidisdobrz2522
@paweandonisgawralidisdobrz2522 5 жыл бұрын
I always love how homer did his research about bronze age weapons but the medieval/rennasaince painters didnt giving characters weapons and armor that 3000 years further into the future.
@JaelinBezel
@JaelinBezel 2 жыл бұрын
Is that kinda like portraying Vikings using laser blasters?
@DukeofTxtspeak
@DukeofTxtspeak 2 жыл бұрын
@@JaelinBezel Given how people usually do things, more likely it's vikings with lightsabres.
@stovepipehat396
@stovepipehat396 5 жыл бұрын
There's a theory that Homer was a family name, for a family of bards. This would explain a lot.
@kimberlynorris338
@kimberlynorris338 5 жыл бұрын
My high school had Homeric Greek as part of a "classic languages" path, so a lot of my peers were able to recite the opening lines of the Illiad. I always loved hearing them do it. In Greek, it's so melodic and yet powerful. I can see why people got invested when Homer did it.
@DIEGhostfish
@DIEGhostfish 5 жыл бұрын
"Around 1870 the Archeologist Heinrich Schliemann straight-up FOUND the ruins of Troy just by homer literally said it was... Then blew it up with Dynamite."
@keolas6916
@keolas6916 9 ай бұрын
I found a book that theorizes that Schleiman didn't find the Troy of the Illiad. That Troy is in England and was fought by Celts over control of tin. Where Troy Once Stood by Iman Jacob Wilkens 2nd Ed. Really interesting!
@hasiumcreeper5384
@hasiumcreeper5384 5 жыл бұрын
Petroclus's final words to Achilles: (Endgame spoilers ahead) I love you 3000.
@Gamespud94
@Gamespud94 5 жыл бұрын
I am Achilles *snaps his fingers and Hector turns to dust*
@aloserthatplaystradingcard4123
@aloserthatplaystradingcard4123 5 жыл бұрын
So what I’ve gathered from this is that The Iliad and Odyssey are the Ancient World’s MCU
@221b
@221b 5 жыл бұрын
And then there's Jason and the Argonauts, which is basically The Avengers.
@joshuakusuma5953
@joshuakusuma5953 5 жыл бұрын
I mean Achilles, Ajax and Diomedes were pretty much the Iron Man, Thor and Captain America.
@RHKang-hl3ps
@RHKang-hl3ps 5 жыл бұрын
Ancient Greek: Have you heard the tenth book of the Iliad yet? Ancient Greek 2: No, don't spoil it. Ancient Greeek 3: Zeus dies in the Iliad! Greek 2: Tarturus!
@kaleidoslug7777
@kaleidoslug7777 5 жыл бұрын
Where's my Greek Cinematic Universe tho?? But seriously, the modern version of the epic cycle? You're a freaking genius
@hugeslingshot
@hugeslingshot 5 жыл бұрын
4:55 Blue is truly a literary scholar, he knows to pay homage to the Number One poet.
@annem4655
@annem4655 3 жыл бұрын
The Odysseus and Diomedes' night raid part is probably Homer advertising his new epic.
@mesektet5776
@mesektet5776 5 жыл бұрын
Three Possibilities 1 Homer plagiarized older writers(Personally I doubt this one but hey could be) 2 Homer was a history buff who wrote a historical fiction based on anally maintained records still available at the time. (Personally I find this one much more likely). 3 Athena and or Hermes sat down with Homer to do an interview with him for a tell all book/poem. (Clearly the correct one).
@trischas.2809
@trischas.2809 5 жыл бұрын
You forgot version 4: Homer himself didn't exist but is the pen name of a group effort of several writers, possibly over some generations.
@kendrajade6688
@kendrajade6688 5 жыл бұрын
Anally maintained records. Definitely.
@nidohime6233
@nidohime6233 5 жыл бұрын
Yes, plagiarism before that was a thing...
@CivilizedWasteland
@CivilizedWasteland 5 жыл бұрын
imagine actually believing oral tradition is plagiarism
@shounenbat510
@shounenbat510 5 жыл бұрын
Definitely number 3. Either that or Homer is a clever disguise for either Athena or Hermes...
@TangmoMopet
@TangmoMopet 5 жыл бұрын
Homer: a blind men who summarize/translate short stories from song to poem and create a two of the greatest greek stories ever.
@cameroncaws8506
@cameroncaws8506 4 жыл бұрын
Honestly I want to see Greek Mythology made into a cinematic universe. You have the small stories like Hercules, works, Theseus and the Minotaur, The Odyssey. Then the big crossover events like Jason and the Argonauts and The Iliad.
@judiejodia
@judiejodia 5 жыл бұрын
I SO agree with you on the Avengers epic concept, I used it as an example to explain Homer in class just this wednesday!! I mean, doesn't infinity war just remind us of achilles and agamemnon's conflict juuust a little? And overall, great video!!
@ryuhitsuya21
@ryuhitsuya21 5 жыл бұрын
Homer was the Kevin Feige of the Greek Cinematic Universe
@dublinjake
@dublinjake 5 жыл бұрын
Does that mean Odysseus is the GCU's Iron Man?
@joshuakusuma5953
@joshuakusuma5953 5 жыл бұрын
@@dublinjake I would have said Achilles because at the end of the Trojan War he... you know... died.
@dublinjake
@dublinjake 5 жыл бұрын
@@joshuakusuma5953 Yes, but, Odysseus and Tony Stark are both bearded smartasses who survive terrible journeys to get back to their families.
@rahmanmoncatar9675
@rahmanmoncatar9675 5 жыл бұрын
@@dublinjake odysseus is tony starks ancestor comfirmed
@BeckettBaladas
@BeckettBaladas 5 жыл бұрын
Please do more of these videos, I'm already super psyched whenever Red drops another "Greek Deity Origin Story" and I would love to see more of these sorts of "History Maker" videos as well!
@zer0w0lf94
@zer0w0lf94 5 жыл бұрын
*Sees the title* Cue the Yuri on Ice and Simpsons jokes.
@Glareflare
@Glareflare 5 жыл бұрын
Okay so I'm not the only one who found this video because of History Maker lol
@zer0w0lf94
@zer0w0lf94 5 жыл бұрын
I subscribed and rang the notification bell.
@thehopeofeden597
@thehopeofeden597 5 жыл бұрын
Finding connections between these vids and my Latin class always makes me happy. Thanks, Blue
@cryonicstupidity4911
@cryonicstupidity4911 5 жыл бұрын
I would find it hilarious if in 1500 years when some archaeologist finds the Marvel cinematic universe story and goes holy crap this is what it was like back then?
@grafvonscyth2928
@grafvonscyth2928 2 жыл бұрын
Closer to 2,500 but aye that'd be amazing. Because I think more likely, is that someone is going to write some kind of fanfiction about the MCU and the print it out, and THAT'LL be what survives rather than the films. Or, worse yet. One generation after the collapse of civilisation, when technology is unusable due to lack of electricity, some guy who heard his fathers explain the MCU to him finds some of the old fucking comics from the 80s or whatever from someone's collection and tries to stitch together some version of Endgame, but with the original psychopath Thanos that's trying to impress the incarnation of death rather than the Malthusian misanthrope that he is in the actual films.
@Punaparta
@Punaparta Жыл бұрын
@@grafvonscyth2928 That sounds absolutely amazing, not gonna lie.
@rustyshackleford6906
@rustyshackleford6906 5 жыл бұрын
This is officially my favorite KZbin channel. I have a passion for history and mythology, so thank you Red and Blue for such awesome content!
@qqwipz6866
@qqwipz6866 5 жыл бұрын
i’m something of a homersexual myself
@Wolfeson28
@Wolfeson28 5 жыл бұрын
Bart Simpson is on the phone for you.
@MrGemHunter
@MrGemHunter 5 жыл бұрын
so you're sexually attracted to old men rocking that English teacher style?
@q345ify
@q345ify 4 жыл бұрын
@@MrGemHunter wait you're not?
@MrGemHunter
@MrGemHunter 4 жыл бұрын
@@q345ify na, ive fucked a few but most of them are a little up their own ass, which understandably makes the fucking a little harder.
@q345ify
@q345ify 4 жыл бұрын
@@MrGemHunter my condolences I wouldn't have that problem
@paulwagner688
@paulwagner688 5 жыл бұрын
Elrond makes fun of the epic poets even as he is in the middle of one: "Come! Tell us your tale. And if you have not yet cast your story into verse, you may tell it in plain words."
@Vespuchian
@Vespuchian 5 жыл бұрын
2:00 GALAHAD: "Perhaps he was dictating?" ARTHUR: Oh, shut up. Well, does it say anything else? MAYNARD: No. Just 'aaarrrrggh'. 8:25 There's also the possibility of later bards/writers claiming 'Homer wrote it' to add legitimacy to their own, derivative work, like when you talk about 'a buddy of mine...'. I'm reminded of Red's video on Arthurian legend and how many characters started as someone's glorified fanfic OC.
@aruzhankenenbaeva1358
@aruzhankenenbaeva1358 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much for this video and greetings from Kazakhstan! At first this theory sounded like an obvious thing to me because in Kazakh literature we have the same thing. It wasn’t common to write down stories or poems for the majority of the population, they always memorized them. There were even contests where singers had to improvise a short poem about a given topic. So I assume it’s not a common thing in western culture, but I may be wrong.
@azamatfleming5427
@azamatfleming5427 5 жыл бұрын
Homer dropped his mixtape and it was so hot, it lasted for thousands of years. What a guy
@AlteryxGaming
@AlteryxGaming 5 жыл бұрын
Happy Troy month everyone. Celebrating 3,202 years of Troy Story.
@PLScypion
@PLScypion 5 жыл бұрын
10 minutes with Blue teaches more about history than entire classes in school.
@KTChamberlain
@KTChamberlain 5 жыл бұрын
Homer described Nestor as having an iron mace. Whoops. Homer also describes Achaean chariot wheels as having 8-spokes, when, in the Bronze Age, they had 4-spokes. One on one duels were unique to the Iron Age, as was the idea of throwing spears in battle like javelins.
@eben3357
@eben3357 5 жыл бұрын
Minor errors, the poetry of Homer is still verifiable through archeology and astronomy (the dates of the Trojan Wars have been determined using the astronomical events and the Greeks were brilliant at reading the heavens). Meanwhile, the Bible describes the 'history' of the Jews and an 'exodus' out of Egypt despite the German archeologists from the 20th century and the Israeli archeologists recently, are still, unable to come up with any evidence of a group of people who walked the Egyptian deserts for 40 years. More problematic is the Iron Age Hebrew does not fit the names and thus genealogy of the supposed earlier events.
@KTChamberlain
@KTChamberlain 5 жыл бұрын
Eben335 I know, I just pointing out a few minor errors in Homer's works just for laughs. Even George R.R. Martin has a couple of minor errors in A Game of Thrones, the first book in his A Song of Ice and Fire series.
@eben3357
@eben3357 5 жыл бұрын
@@KTChamberlain Very good. I just find it interesting what some people call myth, legend and sometimes history etc.
@dionadair8195
@dionadair8195 5 жыл бұрын
Scholar Guy: Can you sing a song about me? Slavs: We got this
@biliminsrlar5752
@biliminsrlar5752 5 жыл бұрын
4:56 *We are number one,hey!* Wow!I didn't know it was actually Homer's!
@AlexMathiesen
@AlexMathiesen 4 жыл бұрын
I would be very interested in seeing a video like this about Herodotus, considering how controversial he is. Yes we know that reading the Histories should be done with a grain of salt, but I want to know why he chose to write his life work in such a manner. How did the Iron Age Greeks view the concept of history, if Herodotus wasn't a good historian, then is his work still worth reading? Yes I know Thucydides was a better historian, but the fact that Herodotus is considered both the father of history and the father of lies makes him that much more interesting to me. Keep up the good work Blue.
@alphaxtitania5597
@alphaxtitania5597 5 жыл бұрын
This made me realize that I should probably do some research into real world bards to help with writing my fictional bard character.
@jananias2985
@jananias2985 3 жыл бұрын
This kind of checks out in the modern day too! When my grandma told me stories of the Mahabharata, she picked just a single plotline and explained it to me (although, in our mother tongue, rather than Sanskrit)
@Inlelendri
@Inlelendri 5 жыл бұрын
I already love your work but this speaks right to my little hearts and I will eagerly yet patiently wait for each installment. I love getting historical context on such things, learning where the threads connect, as it were, and your approach helps it stick in my fatigued brain (acquired brain injury can do that) rather than it just tosses it. So...thank you.
@thomaskalland9276
@thomaskalland9276 5 жыл бұрын
Really enjoyed this type of video! Would love it if you did more
@greenoftreeblackofblue6625
@greenoftreeblackofblue6625 5 жыл бұрын
"Let me watch this new video by the youtuber I respect and have patience wit- Blue:"HEY GUYS I WROTE A BOOK ARE YOU OF PROUD OF ME! AM I A GOOD BOY?"
@DrVein
@DrVein 5 жыл бұрын
I was just admiring the production quality of this video. You know, the graphics and informative diagrams are always really well done. Thanks for your effort, guys. ❤
@Sean-ne3gx
@Sean-ne3gx 5 жыл бұрын
I really liked this and would be happy to hear more :D Also, the half surprised tone in your voice whenever you mention your book always makes me laugh, so thanks for both that and the text being advertised
@Silvershadowfire
@Silvershadowfire 5 жыл бұрын
The description you give of how they use epithets to fill the meter reminds me of the Nordic/Icelandic kennings in the Poetic Edda.
@thenerdiestandroid5841
@thenerdiestandroid5841 5 жыл бұрын
Woo!! Your videos always make Fridays great.
@skye_meeren
@skye_meeren 5 жыл бұрын
This video series better continue, I’ve always wanted to know more details about the storytellers and historymakers of the past
@alanepithet2931
@alanepithet2931 5 жыл бұрын
This is really cool, Blue. I'm always excited for OSP episodes. DO ANOTHER!
@CrazyDyslexicNerd
@CrazyDyslexicNerd 5 жыл бұрын
Fascinating I’d love to hear more about your theory of cinematic universe as epic. It fits with the idea of superheroes as the modern mythology
@RyelynCaster
@RyelynCaster 5 жыл бұрын
And I thought Hermès was complicated
@wavyblate3056
@wavyblate3056 5 жыл бұрын
Yep Homer is one complicated dude that's for sure! Actually living in Greece and having studied both the Iliad and Odyssey I'm actually really impressed with how much information Blue was able to gather!! But what did I expect? it's kinda the theme of the channel sooo 😂😂😂
@eh9618
@eh9618 5 жыл бұрын
Ooh. Plus poetry lesson. Thank you blue!
@StarrTheWitch
@StarrTheWitch 5 жыл бұрын
(Because of Marvel ending) I like this video *smashes like button* ANOTHER!!!!! But yes, this was interesting, I kinda wanna see Dante Alighieri and Virgil done next
@Onemanshowoff
@Onemanshowoff 5 жыл бұрын
Well Blue You do have a point about the marvel movies being like the greek epics But I'd argue that the marvel comics did that first and the movies are adapting what the comics did by making everything connected It's still really cool tho
@Gamespud94
@Gamespud94 5 жыл бұрын
Exactly, the Marvel Comics are the original canon just as the stories Homer learned were carried down over generations in oral tradition, then Homer sewed them into a unified story much like Kevin Feige combined stories from the comics into a unified storyline for the MCU. Basically Homer = Kevin Feige.
@SamPako
@SamPako 5 жыл бұрын
Fascinating that you’re making a series on the history makers! I would recommend one on Giorgio Vasari, I mean the man practically invented the concept of the Renaissance and he is its number one reference with his Lives of the Artists book. I came to know about him through The Medici: Godfathers of the Renaissance pbs documentary, then looked more on him in Andrew Graham-Dixon’s excellent two part show: Travels with Vasari(bbc). Anyhow, great job on this one Blue! PS: If Red finishes up reading the romance of the three kingdoms book, maybe there’ll be a history/literature combo, promoted by TotalWar: Three kingdoms? Idk, but anyways keep it up you guys!
@KelciaMarie1
@KelciaMarie1 5 жыл бұрын
PLEASE YES MOAR! I would love to hear your takes on the people who wrote this history books! Examine origins, biases, styles, myths.... OMG I'm HYPE
@CannonShard
@CannonShard 5 жыл бұрын
MCU & Super heroes in general are totally the modern equivalent of Mythology
@KnightSlasher
@KnightSlasher 5 жыл бұрын
Yeah Homer Simpson is the best so stupid yet so funny
@submarineinthesky8946
@submarineinthesky8946 5 жыл бұрын
We are legally required to make that joke, yeah
@copper803
@copper803 5 жыл бұрын
Dough
@agentjp106
@agentjp106 5 жыл бұрын
Awesome episode! I really liked your connection to how Homer's life and the circumstances surrounding him affect the stories. Keep it up!
@madisoninkster5771
@madisoninkster5771 5 жыл бұрын
Oh I love this!!! This is really interesting, and like you, I appreciate these stories even more! Ancient history is so interesting, I love watching both yours and Red’s videos. Thanks Blue!
@denelian116
@denelian116 5 жыл бұрын
a) really like this new series! b) think you are right about MCU. c) consider: WWE is modern Shakespeare [as in big bombastic drama for the masses...]
@johanandhira5429
@johanandhira5429 5 жыл бұрын
Simply put Homer was the granddaddy of dropping fiery mixtape?
@abigailquick9256
@abigailquick9256 5 жыл бұрын
I already can't wait for the next history makers video! I feel like this is such a creative idea and I am so excited to learn more about the people that have shaped our present :D
@TSmith-yy3cc
@TSmith-yy3cc 5 жыл бұрын
Easily one of the best channels on KZbin! Thanks for all of your hard work!
@jim2075
@jim2075 5 жыл бұрын
The Odyssey was a better story but the Iliad is more of an action story, full with powerful heroes and gruesome battles
@Gamespud94
@Gamespud94 5 жыл бұрын
Phase 2 of the GTU (Greek Theatrical Universe) was much more plot-driven than the earlier more action-focused Phase 1 with the Achilles arc.
@JaelinBezel
@JaelinBezel 2 жыл бұрын
And it has more weapons in it.
@NimhLabs
@NimhLabs 5 жыл бұрын
So... Homer was pretty much just Ancient Greek Netflix then?
@theparrot6516
@theparrot6516 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah but with only originals
@classic_catastrophe4304
@classic_catastrophe4304 5 жыл бұрын
I’m a big fan of the style of this video. Excited to hear more from you, Blue!
@FelipeFV91
@FelipeFV91 5 жыл бұрын
I remember being 12 or 13 and love history class, especially Greece and Rome and their mythologies, and that’s one of the reasons why I love this channel. This idea of the history makers’ history is very cool and I really hope you keep it up. Nice work!
@lilacnymphx
@lilacnymphx 5 жыл бұрын
First comment! Lol now that I've made everyone roll their eyes. I am super excited for this topic! Thanks for covering it!
@mysryuza
@mysryuza 5 жыл бұрын
Who also heard the sound of Homer from The Simpsons saying *"DOH"* after reading the title? 😂😂😂
@CazTails
@CazTails 5 жыл бұрын
I absolutely LOVE that analysis of the MCU though. It's basically the same as what the Iliad and Odyssey were, just in a different form. Good thinking, Blue!
@narri214
@narri214 5 жыл бұрын
Looking forward to more history maker videos. It Should be fun to see the different historians and their take and styles of telling of events relevant to them throughout history and how that relates to their culture at the time
@Niehm
@Niehm 5 жыл бұрын
Baby blue has red eyes. Conspiracy started!!!
@ChocoboKid216
@ChocoboKid216 5 жыл бұрын
Reverse Flash confirmed! It explains why his is good with history.
@DanielSambar
@DanielSambar 5 жыл бұрын
Simpson?
@anotherperson2627
@anotherperson2627 5 жыл бұрын
Marge?
@Kntrytnt
@Kntrytnt 5 жыл бұрын
I loved the video. Anything history related I love. I'm still hoping for a big Romance of the Three Kingdoms romp. Your narration with Red's artwork and music. It would be amazing.
@Ringlord7
@Ringlord7 5 жыл бұрын
This was AWESOME! I'd love seeing more videos like this.
@dtownblastinsalvi62
@dtownblastinsalvi62 5 жыл бұрын
Woah I’m early????!!!! Anyways love this lol
@sovietlamar1294
@sovietlamar1294 5 жыл бұрын
7 views and 25 likes youtube go home youre drunk
@floofcloud6163
@floofcloud6163 5 жыл бұрын
No, Overly Sarcastic Productions is just that great.
@hopejones3255
@hopejones3255 5 жыл бұрын
This was such an enjoyable video! Please please make more of these!
@evilconcarne5560
@evilconcarne5560 5 жыл бұрын
so homer is basically an ancient filip visnjic, a blind bard, singing about epic battles he never witnessed, so good at it that someone wrote it down and atributed it to him
@jhingaming7129
@jhingaming7129 5 жыл бұрын
AAAAAAAA NEW VID
@BeeeeepBoop
@BeeeeepBoop 5 жыл бұрын
My great grandma was a dude!
@crazystorm1659
@crazystorm1659 5 жыл бұрын
I really enjoyed this and all of the osp work, means a lot that I can learn and be entertained by people that know their stuff
@zakwangler6156
@zakwangler6156 4 жыл бұрын
I need more of this. Keep up the good work guys!
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