History of football in Baltimore

The History of football in Baltimore is discussed in anticipation for the colts return to Baltimore in the playoffs

[@DeathSwitch109]

I wasn't born then but I can't imagine how these fans might have felt during that night in 1984. But I will say that I'm glad we have the Ravens.

[@rockvilleraven]

Don't forget the Maryland Politicians who slapped the "Eminent Domain" clause on Irsay and the Colts that forced him to move.

[@Eli-ss9gj]

Nah fr, dude lied to the whole city by saying he wasn't going to move the team

[@boogitybear2283]

Baltimore is way better off having the Ravens than the Colts.

[@Airsoftcleaner]

To me that means Baltimore are TRUE world Football Champs!!!!!NFL,CFL,USFL.

[@budbowl77]

Baltimore Stallions Grey Cup Champions!!

[@colonelrobertsjr.7882]

Bill McCue I loved watching the Stallions play That was a great team!!

[@rockvilleraven]

@@colonelrobertsjr.7882 Had the Ravens never came, Baltimore was slated to host the 1997 Grey Cup, being the first US City to do so.

[@centuryrox]

Other than that, your team, name, colors, and history are all still intact. Imagine how you Cleveland fans would feel if all of your past greats were listed as Baltimore Browns. Imagine how you would feel if you had to jump through every hoop to get an expansion team, only to see it unjustly given to Jacksonville, and furthermore told by Tagliabue to "build a museum" instead of hoping for the NFL to return to your city.

[@SuperSparrow45]

Except instead of robbing another team of their franchise (like Baltimore did), the Browns had to build everything they lost from the ground up. The Ravens essentially got everything the Browns had made and rode it to a successful franchise with 2 Super Bowls this millennium. Meanwhile, the Browns went from a respectable organization to the literal laughing stock of the NFL.

[@Eli-ss9gj]

@@SuperSparrow45 they didn't "ride" anything. The Ravens got that championship on their own after 3 losing and 1 break even seasons. 3 former Cleveland Browns were on that roster, DE Rob Burnett, backup DT Larry Webster, and K Matt Stover. Cleveland hardly gets any credit for that one, and they get zero for the 2012 championship.

[@boogitybear2283]

The name “Browns” is lame. They should change the name.

[@hitek9too255]

@@boogitybear2283 And the uniforms.

[@theOlLineRebel]

@@hitek9too255 With the orange helmet. :D

[@mikeburkholder9153]

We absolutely despised Irsay even before he moved the team

[@mrperson0140]

This was the lesson for every city where they realized, money talks.

[@RockSmithStudio]

I’m glad we have the Ravens now. Love the team and front office

[@masterbader8718]

@@mrperson0140 indeed.

[@vinceniederman3235]

If Your a Ravens Fan Now And a Former Colts Fan From Way Back Then This Video Brings Tears To Your Eyes Without Question And I Can't Believe That The Colts Moved Away From a Great City Then The City Waits 12 Years For The NFL To Return!

[@MMbrown7532]

+Vincent Niederman What bothers me is the bitterness that fans have towards one and other. I'm a Ravens fan and even I hate the Colts somehow even after all these years. I understand the people of Cleveland. I think that the NFL did do it right allowing Cleveland to keep it's history. The future of football will always include teams moving to better markets. It's a business after all and in that sense I understood Bob Irsay back then. The NFL needs to make the case of Colts/Browns/Ravens a bylaw. If a team leaves a city- the city keeps the colors and history. If you move your team you will have to start a new. My opinion but a franchise is a copyright- but sole less if it doesn't have a fan base- and that fan base will be bitter always if you don't give them hope. Did Colts fans become Redskins fans? No. In fact- we hated the Redskins even more in our house. They were the reason it took us 12 years to get a team back into Baltimore- after the 1992 expansion. Got to love football!

[@vinceniederman3235]

Mark Brown I Don't Understand Why The Old Browns Kept Their History In Cleveland After They Moved To Baltimore!

[@vinceniederman3235]

@Cool Guy I Know and Since Your a Ravens Fan U Can Thank Art Modell For Bringing back Football to Baltimore in 1996!

[@vinceniederman3235]

@Serenity Now How Can The Colts Moving To Indy Be Way Worse Then The Browns Moving To Baltimore?

[@vinceniederman3235]

Serenity Now True I Agree With That Big Time And It Did Take 12 Years For Football To Return To Baltimore in 1996!

[@el6401]

Baltimore took the franchise and created a new legacy. The Colts had one of the greatest QBs in history only won 1 ring with him and are headed to the Division basement. The Browns are still the Browns

[@joesakic91]

Baltimore had to wait 11 years to get another football team since the Colts left in 1984. They had a new stadium in 1998 and won their first NFL world championship as the Ravens in their fifth year in 2000 and won another in 2012. The Colts had to wait until Peyton Manning and Tony Dungy arrive for their first title in 2006, 22 years after the move and if it wasn't for Peyton, Lucas Oil Stadium would've existed and that building would've been part of the Super Bowl hosting cycle.

[@jW-hf1we]

THE main reason for Baltimore's discontent is that the Colts franchise continues in Indianapolis! Hall of Famers who played for BALTIMORE Colts get compared to Indianapolis Colt current players as if they played in Baltimore. That doesn't happen in Cleveland. I'm sorry that we took Cleveland's team. However, we didn't take their colors, name or HISTORY with them. Their records continue, their colors and name continue and their fans can take pride in their history as if nothing happened. Not true for Baltimore. So, if you are offended by Art Modell's choice, remember that Maryland, Baltimore and Art all gave you back what you deserve...your dignity.

[@xevious1538]

i wish the NFL would make it so the history of the team belongs with the city. All of Baltimore Colts history, titles and HOFers should belong to the Ravens, while the Indianapolis Colts should be their own history. the Titans should not have the Oilers hstory and should give it back to Houston.

[@johnnyroberts3761]

Irsay and Moddell moved their team for the same reason: wanting a new stadium. However, the Browns history was left in Cleveland when they moved unlike the Colts history staying in Baltimore when they left

[@JamesGhee3]

Except for a winning team

[@jimlorentz4982]

Xevious 1 what about the Raiders, Rams or chargers? I totally understand that sentiment but I also think that it doesn’t always work nowadays.

[@gregpaspatis9425]

@@xevious1538 That's completely on target. Titans look hideous having Earl Campbell in it's ring of honor. He was a college Texas Longhorns great and Houston Oilers great. Houston Texans should be allowed to have full ownership of Oilers history with a five season void 1997-2001 in-between. Texans cheerleaders should be linked together with the Oilers Derrick Dolls cheerleader alumni.

[@bubblinbrownsugar616]

I'm glad no one from Baltimore has acted a fool and urinated on Irsay's grave. You can hate the drunk but don't pull actions like a drunk.

[@Danishsnufkin]

Unlike the salty Cleveland fan

[@coachredbone]

Plenty of us in Cleveland are still to this day upset about The old Browns leaving to Baltimore. However, I feel as Art did what was necessary after the other teams had new stadiums built. Nobody deserves to have their final resting place violated in any way possible. Baltimore felt our pain, they just didn't share it. Four Cities, four franchises...Browns Colts, Ravens, and Stallions Cleveland, Indianapolis, Baltimore, and Montreal has a link and that's their love for football.

[@bonichols8511]

Yeah BUT i tell ya what bubblin, i sure would hate to find myself standin' anywhere near that "scumbags" grave because in my thoughts i would sure be thinkin' about it. That man was SORRY for doin' what he did to the Baltimore Colts & it's fans, i'm from Greenville S.C. & i grew up from my dad LOVIN' the Baltimore Colts & they were ALWAYS my favorite team by faaaaar !!!!!

[@MadHoosier]

Hate to tell you but people from Baltimore, have Piss and Shit on Irsay grave. Sorry to tell you the truth.

[@kirkmoore4515]

I'll be whipping it out when Dean Spanos is on his journey to meet Satan. His soul will be roasting but his grave will be moist.

[@jdlund]

You don't need league approval to move. Al Davis's 1980 anti-trust suit against the NFL settled that matter. Blame the Maryland state legislature for the Colts moving out in the middle of the night or moving at all. The legislature passed a bill that would allow Baltimore to seize the team by eminent domain. The team had to be sneaked out to avoid police seizure.

[@johnlevalley521]

That fact is never mentioned when the topic of the Colts moving to Indy is discussed. Irsay is always couched as the villian and the crooked politicians get off scott free.

[@33baugh]

I will never forgive IRSAY!!!!! Bmore will always be in my ❤.

[@ravensblm]

On November 22, 2002, Newsome was named general manager of the Baltimore Ravens, making him the first African-American to occupy that position in the NFL. His administrative experience started with his former organization when he was the Ravens' vice president of player personnel. Newsome is very well-respected and is considered one of the best general managers of the NFL.

[@ellamihulka8355]

Who Got the super bowl first? O yea the Ravens!

[@1perfectstrangerr]

True, but they all wore Cleveland Browns tee shirts under their jerseys in that super bowl because it really was Clevelands team onthe field that day...

[@robertharvey9047]

love

[@robertharvey9047]

ravens vs. new York jets

[@Eli-ss9gj]

@@1perfectstrangerr no it wasn't. There were 3 former Browns on the field for the Ravens in 2000, DE Rob Burnett, backup DT Larry Webster, and K Matt Stover

[@Eli-ss9gj]

We also have 2 to the Indy Colts' 1

[@quincee33]

i give respect to Baltimore as a city when they embraced Canadian football for 2 years..... they obvious just love the sport of football.

[@ccth22]

You have to give the mayor of Cleveland credit for making sure Art Modell didn’t take the Browns name. I do believe it’s worked out for Baltimore though. They have one of top 3 most stable and smartest organizations in the NFL in my opinion.

[@stevencruz5113]

The City of Baltimore has one distinction that no other city has,They have won NFL Championships,Super bowl from two different teams ,The CFL Championship and the USFL championship thats a lot to be proud of. But curse the Irsay Family for taking a once proud franchise away from these wonderful fans.

[@quincee33]

Ya i'm Canadian and remember the CFL was in financial trouble and the federal government wasn't gonna bail them out so they expanded in the U.S. to try something else. Baltimore was the only city that really got into it, 2 Grey Cup appearances, losing the 1st and winning the 2nd over Doug Flutie and the Calgary Stampeders. The only American team to win the Grey Cup! The Stallions moved to Montreal and became the Allouettes who were a storied franchise but folded. That team is still dominant.

[@vinceniederman3235]

As a Huge Eagles Fan I Feel Sorry For Baltimore So Bad That Day In March in 1984 At Least They Got The Ravens In The City Now After The Old Cleveland Browns Moved To Baltimore in 1996 All Thanks To Art Modell Making "The Move" My Dad Was a Huge Colts Fan Cause Of Johnny U And Those Other Greats!

[@Airsoftcleaner]

Well, the same thing happened with Baltimore Baseball, The Orioles are The old St.Louis Bfowns

[@vinceniederman3235]

So True I Forgot About That!

[@PASSPORTKING2106]

We had an Oriole team before but it was a long time ago

[@georgeharleydavidsonrider156]

Thanks Vince for the kind words .

[@nziik4542]

Back in the days when people cared for their football teams, football in general. Nowadays, a team moves, nobody sheds a tear....

[@enterzone263]

ITS CALLED BUSINESS WHETHER YOU LIKE IT OR NOT....ROOT FOR YOUR LOCAL COLLEGE FOOTBALL TEAM INSTEAD THEY'LL NEVER MOVE.....

[@ravens5192052]

yea your right i glad baltimore has their part of colts history i hope it stays that way for good.

[@WalstromT]

Colts fan since 1970, still a colts fan with Indy. Hell, Tom Matte was to my house in the 70's in Pennsylvania. Picked my team when I was five because of the uniform and went with it.

[@DustinPlatt]

3:54 when someone talks shit on the Internet about you.

[@blanchelincoln]

@swggamer Didn't they leave the SB V trophy in Baltimore when they moved or "return" it some years later? I remember reading that somewhere.

[@tjohn55]

great peice...start to finish!

[@lukintube]

it's uncomparable. browns lost their team for only 3 years. they were almost immediately promised a new team, and they maintained their name, colors, and history.

[@9mm54]

@Adem242 I'm actually confused. Was the Colts moving over night the first notification to the fans? Like did you guys wake up and find out or did you know they we're moving?

[@cadillac4100]

Despite the fact that I'm a Cowboys fan...I thought that this was a raw deal what Bob Irsay did to Baltimore...the Colts were one of the most storied franchises in football.. It was the 1958 Baltimore Colts(Not the Indianapolis Irsays) that helped the NFL make it's way to T.V.'s across the country. The song that was played from 2:57 to 3:09 was that the Colts' fight song..if so who knows the lyrics??

[@robertrock8778]

It’s my understanding that whenever Indianapolis plays the Ravens in Baltimore the scoreboard list the visiting team as Indy. The Ravens would not acknowledge the stolen Colts name.

[@richardhenckel9406]

Is this the 13-3 year?

[@taylorhodges7624]

***** yes

[@collinghood6828]

Richard Henckel and went one and done

[@MrFootballman52]

How about the Baltimore Bears? My dad played for that team as a tight end.

[@quincee33]

ya i like their uniforms.

[@ravensblm]

1991-95: (with Cleveland) First position in the Browns front office was as a special assignment scoutTwo years later (1993), Newsome was promoted to a very comprehensive assignment assistant to the head coach/offense/pro personnelIn 1994, Newsome was named the Browns director of pro personnelAlthough he continued to help on the field, Newsome provided detailed studies on other NFL players and recommended which players the Browns should try to acquire

[@brettshepherd5240]

I hate this ...the colts should be in Baltimore. Im so glad my rams are home in LA

[@MadHoosier]

To the people of Baltimore If it was 1984, I would demand that the that the Indianapolis NFL team to be called the Racers or Worriers because of the Native American roots in Indiana. But being born in 1994 and growing up in Indianapolis I have except that the Colts are my team. Colts have been Indianapolis longer than they were Baltimore, more win and more playoff wins. Sorry Charm City, but you have the Ravens with 2 Superbowl win you should be happy.

[@kennethfordjr4214]

Rosenbloom knew Irsay was a crazy guy.

[@Adem242]

@panthersXyankees89 It is the fact that after promising that our team would not move, the owner, in the middle of the night snuck the team and equipment out of Baltimore and headed towered Indianapolis. We in Baltimore had to wait many years as they passed us over for teams, giving them to other smaller cities. The Browns old team notified publicly that they were leaving for Baltimore and got a brand new team. Baltimore helped build the NFL and it was like we were shit on.

[@4poolwater4]

To enhance this, you really should see the documentary, The Band That Wouldn't Die - by Barry Levinson! This is such a moving story!

[@francoamerican111]

@centuryrox You are so right centuryfox. Everything you said is true. The only thing that isn't mentioned enough is how the Maryland State Legislature played politics with the Colts while they were here in Baltimore.

[@robertstinson5811]

COULD NOT BELIEVE IT!!!!!!

[@Airsoftcleaner]

Yes, The Stars

[@Airsoftcleaner]

Exactly!!!!! At least Art Model(God Rest His Soul) told Cleveland he was moving his team.

[@rockvilleraven]

And Irsay left after Baltimore Politicians after forcing Emmitt Domain down his throat.

[@acharleyhorse1]

@@rockvilleraven He was going to leave anyway. Eminent Domain was just a last ditch effort to prevent the inevitable move.

[@Fanik10]

@MrTestNTune My family and I are from Massachusetts. My mother really isn't a football fan but sometimes I say the Pats are playing the Colts. She's says oh the Baltimore Colts, forgetting that they moved. So I guess to you current and ex-Colt fans, it's kind of bittersweet. She'll always think of the Colts as the Baltimore Colts.

[@RollOnToVictory]

cool video, very sad what happened to that city and .... wait.... what??? Gerry Sandusky? dang.........that's unfortunate.

[@rockvilleraven]

RollOnToVictory If you read his book "Forgotten Sundays" a great book about his relationship with his Dad who was a player and later a Interior Colts head coach which Gerry wrote, there's a chapter about that unfortunate first name he had and that Penn State Pedophile had, he spelled with a G, instead of a J.

[@disownkaos1784]

5:06 yeah we do celebrate the 4th of July here in New Zealand. No I'm just playing

[@Oat57]

@bigbadredsox Exactly right.

[@kennethfordjr4214]

Harry Hughes & don Schaefer blew it !!!

[@michaelhession2105]

I play this clip whenever the Ravens host the Colts ever since it came out.

[@darlakajca6454]

Every time the browns play the hypocrites in Baltimore I watch art modell's lies

[@michaelhession2105]

@@darlakajca6454 You're jealous about our 2 Super Bowl Championships and excellent winning culture over the past 20 years. Thats why you're the ones that make the "Lamar is a RB" campaign, because Browns fans are jealous. Just like we were when the Colts kept beating us in the Colts. The difference was that the Ravens won a Super Bowl before the Colts did in Indianapolis.

[@darlakajca6454]

@@michaelhession2105 you guys wouldn't have a team if it wasn't for Cleveland you Baltimorons should be thanking us only reason you have that culture because of Cleveland you got belichicks front office I don't care about Lamar browns got a better QB then the ravens you guys don't realize how foolish you look when you talk about Indianapolis stealing your team while pretending you didn't do the same to Cleveland

[@michaelhession2105]

@@darlakajca6454 Watson being better than Lamar is BS. Watson has gotten crushed by the Ravens both times he has played them. We don't act foolish about the Colts is because we've done to them what you haven't done to us. Win a game against the Ravens with playoff implications on the line. Yeah let that sink in. Yes we are thanking Modell but your guys are stuck with a clown as your owner.

[@darlakajca6454]

@@michaelhession2105 Modell was a lying pos so it's fitting that you Baltimorons worship him like a weird cult Watson is better than Lamar ESPN and Mike sando from the athletic polled coaches, GMs, and players and in both polls Watson was rated higher than Lamar yeah let that sink in I'm glad Cleveland didn't embarrass it's self by stealing another team and be hypocrites like you

[@aharman314]

@raiddarick well said

[@encierro75]

Actually, you did. For the first couple of years after 1996,the Baltimore Ravens record book included statistics from the Cleveland Brown years. Only after Tagliabue announced the formation of a new Cleveland Browns in 1999 was the Baltimore Raven record book wiped clean.

[@Fanik10]

2 teams made moves that year. The Colts move to Indianapolis and the New York Jets, heartbreaking 24 mile move to East Rutherford, NJ.

[@essvee86]

I bet he keeps on saying "Hey! My name starts with a 'G'!"

[@indy54]

spoke like someone who's never tried to catch a wild horse or ride one.

[@jamespowell9008]

You know I was so angry when the Colts moved out of Baltimore and also angry at the sneaky low down way they did it.My stepfather was a die hard Colts fan and when the Colts moved, I talked with him on the phone and he was so hurt inside and shocked.After they moved my stepfather all of a sudden started getting sick a lot and finally in 1986 my stepfather passed away at the age of 79.

[@francoamerican111]

@Cosmictalk Yeah and the CFL Stallions gave Baltimore the Canadian Football championship, the Gray Cup.

[@theprolificnetwork4670]

That's ok the Stars came and saved the day with an 85 championship in the USFL!

[@MrTestNTune]

@Fanik10 Just laugh these days , I grew up in South Baltimore & We saw'em all the time.

[@kevinkiss3340]

After the Colts left the NFL tried jamming the Redskins down our throat. We had a team we loved. Then in 1994 Baltimore had got screwed again and gave Jacksonville/ Carolina a team when we had a better Presentation.

[@essvee86]

Imagine how the Browns fans feel...

[@michaelleroy9281]

Last game was with Houston 12-18- 83

[@jakealden2517]

I was devastated when the Colts left Baltimore, but in reality Irsay did not sneak out in the middle of the night. He tried for years to negotiate with the city, but the city didn't do anything. The city officials knew very well they were running out of time. Once the city voted to never give a dime for a new stadium, there was nothing for Irsay to do. And let's not forget that the fans were not showing up to watch games, making it more tempting to take the team.

[@theOlLineRebel]

Yes, there was that issue very much in public (never mind no one liked Irsay, even his son). What was NOT in public was that he was, indeed, leaving - we just suddenly woke up and found them gone! Within 24 hours, gone, no "announcement", nothing. Unlike Cleveland which was announced well ahead of time, in public, and months ahead.

[@jakealden2517]

@@theOlLineRebel The public didn't know he was leaving, but he told the politicians in Baltimore that he would leave. They refused to even upgrade Memorial Stadium. He begged and pleaded with them for years.

[@ravens5192052]

i agree unitas and manning played in two differnt eras plus indy baltimore had good success so i think baltimore colts should be in baltimore and indy colt be with indy colt history go ravens.

[@brettfavreify]

And then an evil, despicable man moved his team from Cleveland to Baltimore, and torn the hearts out of Brown's fans.

[@Airsoftcleaner]

+brettfavreify Bullshit, The Browns got the sweetest deal in NFL History, The Got to keep their name ,colors,The works and did not have to wait 12 goddamn years for them to come back

[@FAITHandLOGIC]

+Airsoftcleaner Seriously? Tell that to the Cleveland fans. Sweetest deal? They lost an owner that put a competitive team on the field every year. Look at the (new) Browns since 1999 - one (1) playoff appearance; two (2) winning seasons and thirteen (13) last place finishes.

[@brettfavreify]

+Airsoftcleaner Continuity in Cleveland after 1995 with Belichick, Ozzie (and Ray Lewis?) and the others. might have led to a championship. But hindsight is 20/20. Anyone who suggests the Browns got a "sweet deal" - whatever the fuck that means - is delusional. For a Super Bowl trophy, I don't think Cleveland would care that if they completely sold out and were called the Cleveland Subway Foot-longs. Colours, my ass. Think people in Baltimore give a rat's rectum if the Colts or Ravens won a Super Bowl?

[@johnd9402]

what?

[@darlakajca6454]

@@Airsoftcleaner it wasn't Cleveland's job to give Baltimore a team Cleveland got screwed

[@DASCO2136]

God i know what they'll feel like when the Ravens come to Cleveland for a AFC divisonal playoff round in the future

[@MagnesiumSulfate]

I am from the future with some bad news...

[@tconlon251]

I know this video predates the Penn State scandal...but that is the same Gerry (or Jerry) Sandusky, right?

[@swggamer]

tconlon251 no different guy

[@mastshke]

the sad part was how the NFL did exactly nothing to give Baltimore another team and also other things that stopped baltimore from getting a team. example in the early 90's two new expansion teams. they gave them to jax, and NC...

[@MJ521_]

I’m a Indianapolis Colts fan and this makes me feel evil

[@jdlund]

I have an honest question for Baltimore people who are old enough to remember the Colts move. If the team was so precious to you, so treasured by the city, why didn't people go to the games? Ticket sales were awful for several years leading up to the move. Sure they had bad records, Bob was a bad owner. But when Indy Colts went 1-15 the Hoosier Dome still sold out that year and the next. Why didn't you all go to the games? Teams need a revenue stream to function.

[@cityhawk]

Let's make something clear. The point we are forgetting is that the Baltimore/Indianapolis Colts are a franchise of a team, not the city. In other words, the cities of Indianapolis and Baltimore DO NOT own the Colts, it's owners do. What players like Unitas forgot was that he was a quarterback for the Colts. The city didn't own his rights, the NFL and the Colts did. in other words, those who are making that Johnny Unitas didn't play for the Indianapolis Colts are making a very flawed argument.

[@nathanthapar9254]

At least we have a new the baltimore ravens

[@erikmartinez8814]

idk if it would be worse for the 49ers to be called the santa clara(or any other new city) 49ers or watch shanahan, jimmy garrapolo and the rest of our team go on as a new team and win titles the browns must be livid that the ravens went on to become a great franchise baltimore at least got the ravens and two titles to make up for not having manning, but i get it Unitas is now tied to Indy history, would suck if montana and young were part of a new towns history as of now Santa clara doesnt get any recognition as the teeam is still the San Francisco 49ers

[@squidparty2000]

I’m a bears fan so yeah I hate the Colts, (Super Bowl 41) I’m also a Ravens fan. The colts are Such a shameful team. I don’t know what I’d do if the bears moved. I don’t think it will happen because it’s literally the founding franchise of the league like the Packers. The Cards moved and they’re older than the bears.

[@swggamer]

true they originally intended for Baltimore to become the browns but they didn't. People cant complain about something that didn't happen. The browns didn't pack up and leave in the middle of the night without anyone knowing. Simple, if your not from Baltimore you'll never understand the hurt Baltimore felt when they left.

[@theOlLineRebel]

It's more than that, actually. Cleveland DID NOT have a team take off in the middle of the night; they were TOLD at the start of the season it would be their last; Browns' fans had a whole season to prepare and adjust while they got to watch the team 1 more time. The Colts disappeared in the night, suddenly gone in 1 day. Totally different situation.

[@darlakajca6454]

Not true Modell criticized owners for moving wanted the stadium renovated that's why he announced he was moving the team the day before the vote took place for stadium renovations Modell had 3 years left on his lease you don't know anything

[@theOlLineRebel]

@@darlakajca6454 What do you mean, not true? Your writing isn't very clear. However, it stands that Cleveland KNEW well before the next season they were leaving. By Thanksgiving as I recall. He may have hemmed and hawed like Irsay but it was made known. You even wrote, though unclear, "announced". Sorry, not at all the same!

[@darlakajca6454]

@@theOlLineRebel you don't understand anything that happened Modell wanted the stadium renovated so it was going to be put to a vote in June of 1995 Modell said there's going to be a moritorium on stadium talk he had 3 years left on his lease do you really think Cleveland knew he was leaving after the Year with with 3 years left ? The team fell apart because of the announcement of the move

[@theOlLineRebel]

@@darlakajca6454 Nothing you write contradicts. The bottom line is the public knew as it was announced publicly that the team was moving. Sad, but the Dodgers - of all teams, the BROOKLYN Dodgers - moved, the Rams moved, lots moved even before the Colts. Common - they all knew it. Sad, but knew it. Colts - we did not know and he never announced. Knowing it's possible and threatened is not the same as "announced". Modell announced. Sorry.

[@ravens5192052]

he played for the b-more nod indy so i think they should seperate the indy colts between the b-more colts.

[@wizeman5974]

I agree ..... when Unitas played, the Colts were not in Indianapolis, they were in Baltimore. Yes, a portion of the history of the Colts is in Indianapolis, but his (Unitas) history is with the "Baltimore" Colts. Lenny Moore didn't play in Indianapolis. The '58 championship was won by the "Baltimore" Colts. I think they're histories should be kept separate.

[@sammyvh11]

Losing that playoff game to Indy and not even trying to score with 1 min 30 sec left in the second quarter got Billick fired the next year.

[@ravens5192052]

yea he could be like johnny u i guess the nfl will see hopefully he becomes like the late great johnny unitas go ravens.

[@Baltimorehop]

What this is all about is comment of the man @ 4:36. He hit it right on the head. I never understood why Baltimore did not fight for the Colts namesake like Cleveland did. I was so happy for that mayor in Cleveland when he kept their name. I, to this day, feel the City of Baltimore should unprecedentedly petition for their name back. Let the Indy team be called something else. The "Colts" name & legacy BELONG IN BALTIMORE! I was born in B'more in '65 to Ewtah St. I exited from Pimlico Rd. ={

[@burns1210]

All the old Colts memorabilia is on the splay in Indianapolis. Trophies, cleats, game balls, whatever. Jim Irsay, Bob's son, said that stuff belongs to the Colts. But Baltimore can buy it back for 10 million dollars.

[@tonycozart]

When I said "To hell with Indy" I meant the indy colts; not the whole town. Btw; I don't know where you heard that our mayor signed papers for the Colts to leave. You'll have to provide proof. Also, what happend between Bmore and Clevlnd was unfortunate for Clevlnd, but only for 2 yrs. We had to wait 13 yrs. And, no matter how it came about Clvlnd got to keep everything. You guys got to keep all our history and nobody there even gives a damn

[@mathiasmorqubus]

That was the legacy of the Indianapolis Colt's. They lost Superbowl 3 they played (and won) the worst Superbowl ever played and had an idiot give them another in 2006.

[@MadHoosier]

mathiasmorqubus And you played Carry Collins.

[@DoctorDelaware]

Indy fans should have demanded their own identity when that team moved instead of accepting stolen goods. Even Jim Irsay had more class than his dad and keeps the history somewhat separate.

[@893160007]

Luckily, the league recognizes the current Als as being the same as the old ones, and not the same as the Stallions

[@brooks323]

I'm over with the team moving to Indianapolis. The only thing that gets me pissed is that they couldn't come up with their own team name. I guess the people of Indianapolis were to stupid to think about that. I'm so glad that Baltimore didn't take the Browns name and the team's records.

[@bangylong22]

@drcadam they let cleveland have the browns and formed a new team its totally different. they took everything from baltimore the name, the jerseys everthing

[@quincee33]

they didn't even mention the Baltimore Stallions of the CFL. They won the GREY CUP and are the only American team to win the Grey Cup...not too mention they were successful before returning to Montreal and becoming the Alouettes. Baltimore showed it's a football city by supporting a team from a Canadian league.

[@Adem242]

@panthersXyankees89 They Left in the middle of the night. Nobody new really until the morning when they turned on the tv and realized that they were gone. THERE WAS NO NOTIFICATION.

[@Mentallyawake568]

yeah the ravens name came from Edgar allen poe's poem "the Raven."

[@joslone]

Didn't the Raven 's move from Cleveland.

[@nathanthapar9254]

Colts are at there new city now

[@hushjoker666]

Go Ravens !!! Get over the colts Baltimore the Ravens are way better.

[@mikesmith1226]

hushjoker666 right aren't they the real Cleveland browns

[@Chris87md]

Ravens4life

[@chaseredwhiteandblue3163]

Wrong

[@rollotomasi8116]

Baltimore fan wanna be.......the Colts will always be the BALTIMORE COLTS.......

[@RobertBrown-jz4qj]

Here we go again. The colts will be here tomorrow night. Clev kept there name, uniform, and history. Wr got none of that.

[@jscraig4]

And the city/area that has been screwed more than any other.... Saint Louis!!!

[@bubblinbrownsugar616]

He's mentioned when the whole Penn State stuff was blowing up, he got hate mail left and right and when he introduced himself to people outside of Maryland, they'd give him second looks and keep their distance from him. So he had to introduce himself by saying he's Gerry with a G.

[@TheSSUltimateGoku]

1:52 "former colts owner (1923-1997)" Uh The Colts franchise was created in 1953 so he couldn't of been the owner that long. He became the colts owner in 1972 after he made a trade with Rosenblum for the LA Rams franchise Irsay own at the time.

[@colonelrobertsjr.7882]

TheSSUltimateGoku 🍗🍗🍟🍟 That was his birth year to the year he died!!! 😂😂

[@RavensFAN815]

@Ampxxx777 Yup we won the CFL cup in 1994 I think,,,,Dont hate on my CFL history I was born in 1994 :p 2 years before we got the Ravens! But yea the Stallions were good.

[@TheOHbuckeyeIO]

Oh, and you know how much it hurts to see that Colts history in Indy? Here's one thing you're all to hypocritical to admit.....you signed, sealed and delivered Art Modell to Baltimore before anyone knew for sure that he wasn't going to take the Browns history to Baltimore. You know that winning tradition the Ravens have "built"? Yeah, that all resided in Cleveland until you decided you had the right to interfere w/OUR team and heritage. The success you've had since '96 should've been ours.

[@farpointgamingdirect]

Not a word about the ORIGINAL Baltimore Colts who played in the AAFC. OUR Colts were the Dallas Texans.

[@theprolificnetwork4670]

The Stars would have Takin Care of Baltimore had the USFL merged with the NFL!