History of TAROT. From Game to Divination

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[@benvinar2876]

Did you know, the symbolism of tarot plays out on the tree of life? (5-D ascension) crowleys deck is the most accurate.

[@Arkonsblake]

Best video on the Tarots, ever.

[@drangelapuca]

aw thanks

[@ryansampaulesi6234]

Never knew there was so much history behind this. Let alone it originated from Italy. I just thought it was a gypsy thing. Love ya Angela ❤️

[@drangelapuca]

Thanks, Ryan

[@kiarahelen6006]

Friendly reminder that the word 'gypsy' is a slur. Romani is better.

[@kmdale7041]

The Hermit my favourite card..and how I live my life in the shadows..blessed be

[@drangelapuca]

thanks for sharing

[@frostythesasquatch]

In your upcoming discussion of the RWS deck, will you be examining Crowley’s Thoth deck as well? Maybe in a separate video? Incredible as always.

[@drangelapuca]

Possibly in the future!

[@BabyBat14]

That would be a great video! Please do one on the thoth deck, Ms Angela 🥺

[@Cesaryeyo]

It's admirable that you can be eloquent in English and that you put a lot of effort in pronunciation when it's not your first language. But it's also very nice to hear you speak your mother tongue, it's very pleasant to hear and you're noticeably more comfortable with it.

[@drangelapuca]

Thank you! 😃

[@steveyj3002]

Love your channel and that t shirt

[@Raelven]

An excellent history of Tarot. Bravo! 👏👏👏

[@drangelapuca]

Thanks

[@HighPriestessK]

I did my paper on Divination for my masters in divinity and it included the Tarot cards. I wish this was posted last year..☺️ Anyways very,very good information 👍🏿

[@drangelapuca]

Thanks for sharing!!

[@brightbite]

Looks like those Scrabble tiles we have been tossing around may end up becoming much more than that one day!

[@drangelapuca]

don't throw them away ;-)

[@brightbite]

@@drangelapuca Nope. ;)

[@justinbirkholz]

Another great video! Thanks, Angela! Tarot is such an important part of modern magic yet most people know so little about its history. This was very helpful!

[@drangelapuca]

Thanks for sharing!!

[@DmitryFromForest]

Thanks for another nicely done informative video, Angela. Btw, I've read that Pamela Colman Smith did draw the major arcana from the descriptions of Arthur Edward Waite and the minor arcana was almost entirely of her doing (she only used three images found in the older decks or something like that). And it's kinda sad that her name wasn't even included for quite some time when they started selling the deck.

[@drangelapuca]

I will definitely research this further for the dedicated video

[@marygreer4036]

I suggest "Pamela Colman Smith: The Untold Story".

[@thomasdolcelli4969]

That is so cool! I knew nothing about the cards. Kind of feel like I played a game when I had them read. And knowing it started in Italy, or at least how we know it, is cooler.

[@drangelapuca]

Glad you enjoyed it!

[@unstewed]

Outstanding!! The best history of the Tarot I've ever seen. Looking forward to the one on the Rider-Waite since it's the deck I use.

[@drangelapuca]

that's lovely, James. Thanks!

[@Mariam_Kir]

This video was great! ❤ I wish it was longer...

[@drangelapuca]

More to come!

[@andrelott6920]

I like your Chilling Adventures of Sabrina shirt and I hope that you're having a good day today!

[@drangelapuca]

Thank you! You too!

[@kbennett2587]

You will never know how happy this video made me. Thank you so much for this video. May you be successful in all your endeavors. Please, keep making videos.

[@drangelapuca]

Thank you so much!

[@kbennett2587]

@@drangelapuca you're welcome

[@edwinbloemendaal1519]

Actually Tarot connected to occult doctrines existed before the Golden Dawn as explained in “The Underground Stream: Esoteric Tarot Revealed.” The GD suppressed the truth about this. Angela is so knowledgeable, I’m surprised I could “trump” her on this!

[@TrionfiTarot]

It should be mentioned that Tarot continues to be played as a game today. In Italy, Tarocchi is played with a modernized double headed deck called the "Tarocco Piemontese" There several varieties of the game mostly played in France and in Central Europe

[@drangelapuca]

thanks for sharing

[@davidcooze2669]

A wonderful presentation covering the main points, given that the Tarot has a complex history. I was hoping that the Sola-Busca may also have been mentioned, given that it is one of the earliest historical decks, but perhaps this will be covered in one of your future presentations. Great summary, thank you.

[@drangelapuca]

you're right. I had to select the ones more relevant to the evolution from game to divinatory tool

[@AdrienneLaVey]

Such a wonderful video! I’ve always been fascinated with tarot and its history. 🥰

[@drangelapuca]

oh, wow! I was just watching one of your videos. 🥰 Absinthe is my favourite drink but, I must admit, I'm not as knowledgeable on it as you and Justin are! Glad you liked the video, by the way.

[@AdrienneLaVey]

@@drangelapuca Aww, thank you! That’s so very sweet of you! I’d love to collaborate one day!

[@baphomet6292]

i think from now on i have to make notes from your video. You cover such an interesting topic. Big fan of your channel.

[@drangelapuca]

thank you, Palak

[@richt63]

Very informative. Thankyou.

[@drangelapuca]

So nice of you

[@jeffaltier5582]

Very nice overview. I look forward to more in depth information in future videos!

[@drangelapuca]

Thanks, will do!

[@SusanDemeter]

Love your channel! Thank you for this.

[@drangelapuca]

That's very sweet of you. Thanks, Susan!

[@williamhorner5660]

Thank you

[@Ahumanwonders]

Loved this. Thanks!

[@drangelapuca]

Glad you enjoyed it, Robin!

[@jenu2959]

Very nice you are improving a lot Angela

[@drangelapuca]

Thank you so much 😀

[@MrZayne8]

Outstanding video.

[@drangelapuca]

Glad you think so, Zayne!

[@rcapracp3867]

Hi, I appreciate that you can only convey so much in a short format video essay, and I don't want to discourage you at all from continuing to produce content (exactly the opposite in fact). However, I've watched a couple of your videos now (the others being the ones about the Leviathan and Sufism), and I just feel like there's nothing in any of them that I couldn't have gotten from scanning a wikipedia article. I know why your videos were recommended to me by the Algorithm, since you've mentioned channels whose videos I've also watched (Let's Talk Religion and Esoterica) but I feel like your videos generally end right when theirs would be getting into the meat of a subject, when they would start presenting some original scholarship and/or synthesis. Have you considered longer form videos, or perhaps two part videos (e.g. "intro to" for part 1, and a "deeper dive" for part 2)? You're tackling subjects that I really want to learn more about, and your presentation and delivery are awesome. And, yes, I know, I'm getting it for free so I'm really in no place to ask for anything else. Just some feedback for you to consider. Thanks.

[@drangelapuca]

thanks for the feedback

[@arkadiusztemplar]

Are Tarot used for divination in Italian Signatura? Because what I understood, it had other purpose in Italy. For esoteric use it started abroad. I was using deck of the golden dawn. Their cards are really speaking to my conciousnes, but what was strange, I was not able to use it for myself, only for others, preferably strangers. Didn't heard about tree of Life connection. Will read on. Best regards and thanks for interesting input. Keep on your opus magnum! :-)

[@rrrosecarbinela]

Grazie, Dottoressa

[@drangelapuca]

Prego!

[@jamesmihalcik1310]

Awesome research content. Always a thumbs up ! The Tarot would seem like a natural progression from a set of runes. If not for Waite, symbolism would still be chaotic and individualistic of the cards. While not a bad thing, its much easier to grasp at intuition with an underlying connotation. Thanks for that :)

[@drangelapuca]

thanks for sharing

[@Saint_nobody]

A day late & a dollar short. Still here to learn from the good doctor.

[@drangelapuca]

Yay! Thanks

[@Saint_nobody]

@@drangelapuca why soitenly. 😁

[@KM-hk9pg]

Great video!

[@drangelapuca]

thanks for letting me know

[@violanteplacido2827]

In Italy you can buy in popular libraries a book by Oswald Wirth, who apparently was a linked to Eliphas Levi. How is this book regarded in Academia?

[@drangelapuca]

Analysed as a primary source

[@onebigzero5266]

thx ;) 🌞

[@DonovanWert]

You have me under your spell!!❤️

[@drangelapuca]

under the academic spell :-)

[@riccardoleone4265]

Yeah, the minor arcana, the king, the chevalier, the jack, and the numbers, are just our traditional game cards. Four seeds, "sword", "rod", "goblet" and "coin", clearly symbols of royalty. To make it sound more exoteric in the tarots the "coin" is interpreted as a pentagram.

[@drangelapuca]

:-)

[@josepht82]

Have you ever heard of the Table of Isis? Some say the tarot archetype origins could be inspired from it.

[@markwarrensprawson]

The Rider-Waite deck has its place in history for sure, but I'm sure if time weren't such an issue when shooting these, you would have brought it back to Crowley and the Thoth deck he designed and commissioned Lady Frieda Harris painted. Esoterically speaking, that is arguably THE deck to check out. Although it's fair of some to disagree with the whole "tzadi is not The Star," thing. Just in terms of the richness of the illustrations - the boatload of symbols they squeezed into each card, somehow without cluttering them and keeping them all super balanced and so, so pretty - they're wonderful. Draw a big picture of the Tree of Life and arrange a deck of those around it, you know, where they all belong, the paths from this to that. Well, I did anyway, and couldn't stop staring at the finished thing, letting stories jump out of that nameless, intangible place behind my eyes in the middle of this thing that's typing now. What a cool deck. Wow.

[@drangelapuca]

thanks for sharing

[@michaelevans3904]

Ty

[@TheAlkhemiaStudio]

I reallt like your videos, but i must point out that AE Waite commissioned the illustrations to Pamela C. Smith, he did not illustrated them as you mentioned in the video. Just a lil errata for an overal amazingly researched video. Keep up the good work!

[@drangelapuca]

I never said he illustrated the cards. Thanks for your appreciation

[@timages]

Tarot's history in this video illuminates for me that they never were a source of divination with any illusory powers, they were just playing cards or later "tarrochi" fakes. I personally don't know how people can compare them to Astrology which is on another level entirely.

[@drangelapuca]

Thanks for sharing

[@tarsismartins8989]

..... Wasn't it Pamela Colman Smith who illustrated the pips?

[@drangelapuca]

Yes

[@surrealdealpick3]

I was hoping you would have mentioned the Medieval Scapini Tarot.

[@drangelapuca]

sorry, time was limited

[@surrealdealpick3]

@@drangelapuca totally understand thanks for your reply.

[@davidelfirium4957]

what is the difference between diving something and and enchanting something. ?

[@johnhanratty4145]

The map of Italy is incorrect, Venice is in the north-east Otherwise brilliant video, I am about to become a patron

[@drangelapuca]

I look forward to welcoming you

[@quinnmallory9025]

You should go on the podcast Magnolias and Magic! DaatDarling runs it and you would be a perfect well of information

[@drangelapuca]

I'd go if they invite me :-)

[@ericalves5514]

Eliphas Levi mentions in dogma and ritual that Court de Gebelin has a book on the meaning of the alphabet of the stars that i have never been able to find, do you know anything about it?

[@drangelapuca]

It'd require dedicated research

[@Vignanello555]

Dottoressa Angela, Conosche-Voi il catalogo della mostra TAROCCHI: LE CARTE DEL DESTINO (a cura di Giordano Berti e Andrea Vitali) che c'e le ho visto nel Castel Sant Angelo en 1990?

[@drangelapuca]

interessante

[@fraser372]

Sound quality is much improved ….

[@drangelapuca]

thanks for letting me know

[@martinwilliams9866]

No one seems to know what the white object on the Visconti Sforza Magician is.

[@Peregryn2356]

When were the Major Arcana cards added to Tarot decks?

[@drangelapuca]

Probably in the 15th century

[@aeonxvii6311]

A 5th Card Suit was added to playing card decks in the 1420s, but none of these experimental decks have survived. Filippo Visconti’s secretary, Marziano da Tortona created his own version of this deck, but again, no physical deck survives, but a book on that deck exists in the Paris library. The Visconti-Sforza decks, which are the basis of modern Tarot decks were created from 1442 - 1463. The word Trionfi, was first used in 1440. The term “Major Arcana” was only coined in 1863.

[@danone2414]

idk tarot here in spain is usually linked to gypsians... is there anything related to it?

[@drangelapuca]

that's a common belief but there's little historical evidence

[@ciprianom8394]

❤️❤️❤️

[@drangelapuca]

[@kiarahelen6006]

Can you talk about the Fata in another video?

[@drangelapuca]

perhaps in a future video

[@davidsanderson583]

😎👍😇

[@drangelapuca]

:-)

[@lauda579]

In tarot, the last letter is silent!

[@drangelapuca]

:-)

[@jbaquinones]

Does Saracen mean Moor?

[@drangelapuca]

No. :)

[@gunkwretch3697]

what people have to understand is that gambling was not considered secular, Christians were very fatalistic, they didnt believe in chance, and so gambling is heretical, and sinful... not to mention the Goddess Fortuna, who also figures in Arthurian legends, and superstitions of knights etc.... then there is the other occult symbolism which was on the playing cards, which could be used for divination right from the beginning. Dice and even the roulette wheel had occult meaning, as the latter is the "wheel of fortune" and has 36 divisions, as like the decans of the zodiac

[@drangelapuca]

any source you recommend?

[@camcan1243]

I thought tarot cards came from Egypt

[@drangelapuca]

that's the belief that became popular among French occultists

[@camcan1243]

@@drangelapuca is there any way to explore that possibility. i know well that mexico is heavy into Tarot cards

[@thalassaraptor555]

Where is Etteilla? How can you cover the 18th century and the divinatory Tarot without him?

[@drangelapuca]

I had to narrow it down to the ones most relevant to the topic

[@emv1309]

Burn the witch! She turned me into a mute!

[@drangelapuca]

that's so 16th century, you're a bit behind

[@emv1309]

Lol, you should watch Monthy Python and the holy grail witch sketch

[@juadwhite1391]

Hey my elder sister, according to your video there is no consensus among the pundits regarding the origin of this game, your research displayed conflicting opinions in this regard. I would like to know the most likely origin of this game from your perspective my elder sister ❤. (Your little brother Juad who belongs to your feet).

[@drangelapuca]

I mention in the video that documental evidence show the first tarot deck emerged in Italy in the 15th century and has Arabic origins

[@violanteplacido2827]

Tarocco 🤣🤣🤣

[@drangelapuca]

Yep