I'm glad there is a channel that can enable my addiction to incredibly specific and nerdy facts about old firearms. I love watching these!
@Candrsenal8 жыл бұрын
+aerodip52 consider rehab
@nomad87238 жыл бұрын
My God how have I missed this channel!? In my eyes Great War small arms have this mystique unparalleled by any other era, only approached by the Victorian black powder rifles of empire. Thank you for imparting your invaluable knowledge for free, and with excellent production quality.
@Candrsenal8 жыл бұрын
+nomad8723 Thanks!
@M21Karl8 жыл бұрын
I have three 88/05's from three different makers and they all have very smooth bolts and never had any problem feeding or extracting. They are easily the smoothest bolt action rifles I've ever used. They are all accurate as well.
@Candrsenal8 жыл бұрын
+M21Karl Sweet
@M21Karl8 жыл бұрын
+C&Rsenal I don't know if we are just lucky or if our standard procedure for old military bolt rifles made the difference. We usually take the bolt apart and clean the bolt and the receiver and chamber with boiling water just to make sure all the cosmoline is out. Then we oil everything and then put white lithium grease on the cocking cam. It made a world of difference on more than one tough mosin.
@Candrsenal8 жыл бұрын
M21Karl Actually right on that as well! Probably just luck of the draw.
@tarstakars8 жыл бұрын
well it is clear from this video that the rifle I possess is one of the models that was sent to Turkey during World War I that being said I've personally never had a problem with mine feeding properly but I discovered that the extraction problem was wholly dependent on the type of ammunition used, at one time I have about 500 rounds of Canadian made eight millimeter in about five hundred rounds of British made eight millimeter and those bullets would feed and extract flawlessly regardless of how hot the rifle became but some German and Russian ammunition became increasingly difficult to extract as the rifle got hot causing at one point an extractor failure which I the had to replace. great videos guys keep up the good work.
@Candrsenal8 жыл бұрын
+tarstakars lots of people are pointing at ammo. Which the Germans had difficulty trouble shooting as we can see
@charliewilson81628 жыл бұрын
Back in 1981 I bought a Gewehr 1888 from a friend with the S stamped in it. I shot that rifle a lot and I didn't have stripper clip, I loaded them in by hand. I don't remember having problems cycling the action. Maybe mine was used more and wasn't as tight. Back then I was interested in history of that rifles design and didn't find a lot back then. I'm glad I found your videos I learned a bunch about that old rifle. I also bought a Krag side loading carbine from the same friend but I never shot that one. Keep up the great work!
@Candrsenal8 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@davidwagner46718 жыл бұрын
thanks my dad brought back 4 from WWII and mouser 22 training rifle .he gave them away to his brother's and a nephew I still cry about it today.
@Candrsenal8 жыл бұрын
+David Wagner I'm sorry for your loss.
@reverendkaz17317 жыл бұрын
I just bought a gewehr 88/05/35 so I'm very excited for that video.
@chriswolgamuth238 жыл бұрын
Every time I watch one of these I am impressed and thank full that I live in a time when I can enjoy entertainment so incredibly specific to my interests in hobbies, I cant imagine living in a time when there were 4 channels on television. keep up the great work guys.
@Candrsenal8 жыл бұрын
+Chris Wolgamuth Glad to hear we are a custom fit!
@jtday928 жыл бұрын
C&Rsenal covering the 1888/05 and Forgotten Weapons covering a Winchester 1895 in 7.62x54r, today is WWI as fuck.
@maewinchester20308 жыл бұрын
+jtday92 It's a good day.
@jtday928 жыл бұрын
+Mae Guns The only thing that could make it better would be more .32's.
@maewinchester20308 жыл бұрын
+jtday92 Ok, but only because you asked specifically for them :)
@MaxwellAerialPhotography8 жыл бұрын
i'm sure it will show up eventually.
@lowkeythethiccstergod69398 жыл бұрын
That enfield on the wall in the background is absolutely stunning.
@Candrsenal8 жыл бұрын
+petpeeves117 wait which one?
@lowkeythethiccstergod69398 жыл бұрын
+C&Rsenal it used to be on the racks, although the one with the grenade wrappings isn't bad either. it would be interesting to know how much money is sitting in that room.
@Candrsenal8 жыл бұрын
petpeeves117 don't remind me! I sleep so poorly as it is.
@MrBioniclefan18 жыл бұрын
10:55 it does sound very familiar to the M1 Garand on the last round.
@NeptuneBluez8 жыл бұрын
Getting home after a long day at work, I see that C&Rsenal has posted a new episode. You guys made my day. Thank you.
@maewinchester20308 жыл бұрын
+Neptune Bluez Glad we could help :)
@NeptuneBluez8 жыл бұрын
+Mae Guns The two of you seem to have a good bit of fun making these episodes, and it shows on camera. C&Rsanel is, by far, one of the most in-depth reliable source in regards to surplus firearms on KZbin. Great work as always!
@Rinasoir8 жыл бұрын
Another fantastic episode, thank you.
@Candrsenal8 жыл бұрын
+Peter Larkin Thanks!
@JonManProductions8 жыл бұрын
8:05 Ross is not amused.
@joetaylor4868 жыл бұрын
Another exhaustive and informative episode. Thank you all very much :-)
@Candrsenal8 жыл бұрын
+Joe Taylor Thanks for watching!
@MUCKLEECH8 жыл бұрын
Clock out for lunch, check KZbin and there is a new video on another German rifle. MADE MY DAY! Hahaha thanks again guys, I can't say enough how much I love this channel. Keep it coming!! :):):)
@Candrsenal8 жыл бұрын
+The Watcher You avatar is perfect for this comment.
@MUCKLEECH8 жыл бұрын
+C&Rsenal Haha thank you, and yea it is! I drew that little guy a few years ago and he's been with me ever since:)
@CaptainGrief668 жыл бұрын
10:52 Here ya' go, just like the poor man's Garand.
@boywhohasl1vedhascometodie4693 жыл бұрын
lmao. I agree, even though its a so-so quality rifle. and its nice to see im not the one of the very few weebs whos into guns like you :)
@VSO_Gun_Channel8 жыл бұрын
Very Informative. I was watching The Great War and I was sent here
@Candrsenal8 жыл бұрын
+The VSO Gun Channel Thanks!
@taterporkchop8 жыл бұрын
Always interesting to see the development of these various period arms. Another top-notch video!
@Candrsenal8 жыл бұрын
+taterporkchop Thanks!
@AntiAnathema8 жыл бұрын
The best conversion would have been rechambering the rifle to .32ACP.
@Candrsenal8 жыл бұрын
+Geo Wu It's really the only decent cartridge of WWI.
@wingracer16148 жыл бұрын
+Geo Wu A prototype in .32acp sold at RIA for 3.2 million last month. I wanted it bad but had to stop bidding at 2.5 mil.
@billybatshitcrazy6868 жыл бұрын
+C&Rsenal 45 acp beats the breaks off of 32acp also ever heard of 30-06 MURICA
@utrak8 жыл бұрын
+Geo Wu Pocket rifle.
@kainhall8 жыл бұрын
+Billy Batshitcrazy because 7.62x54r, 303, 8mm, ETC arnt almost exactly the same round? live in montana, i own guns, i like montana....but....32ACP is also an american designed round....
@Alome98 жыл бұрын
I had heat problems with my 1944 K98 too, rapid fire of any kind made it hot to the touch. You could smell the wood handguard heating up after ~40 rounds.
@Candrsenal8 жыл бұрын
+Alome9 weirdly the barrel jacket does its job but the action itself binds
@taofledermaus8 жыл бұрын
I think the gun can be improved by adding a laser and break-action to it. :)IAS... great episode guys!
@micahphilson8 жыл бұрын
+TAOFLEDERMAUS Don't forget aimbot. That makes everything simpler!
@taofledermaus8 жыл бұрын
and a steady-aim button
@DrGun-re1kd8 жыл бұрын
+TAOFLEDERMAUS it's modular! Just like the AR!
@Candrsenal8 жыл бұрын
+TAOFLEDERMAUS ok you can leave now.
@taofledermaus8 жыл бұрын
C&Rsenal I've been banned from the server!
@jamess6628 жыл бұрын
Although I knew the bore diameter changed from .318 to .323 due to the deeper rifling, I thought the change was in the 98 series. Thank you for the great video.
@Candrsenal8 жыл бұрын
+Casey Bareback It twere one then the other.
@Rokkoasas8 жыл бұрын
Great episode guys, congratulations.
@maewinchester20308 жыл бұрын
+None_yo_business Thank you!!
@tisse908 жыл бұрын
New to the channel but i've seen the videos you did on The Great War channel. I really enjoy the quality and effort put into your videos and i can't wait to see future content.
@Candrsenal8 жыл бұрын
+tisse90 Thanks! We'll keep trying!
@fhsreelfilms8 жыл бұрын
Great episode. Interesting to see just how long and in how many guises the Gewehr 88 served. I think one could spend one's whole life studying Mausers. You should add Canfield's "The M1 Garand Rifle" (that really huge one that came out a couple years ago) to your Amazon store. That's one I hope to buy eventually, and when I do, I'd love for you guys to get a commission for it. :-)
@DrGun-re1kd8 жыл бұрын
Thanks to Mae for wrasslin' that unwieldy thing around and to everyone at C&Rsenal for the great episode about the Gew. 88/05. I'd bet the Turks don't miss it either. I enjoy finally being able to understand the model variations.
@swedishviking80272 жыл бұрын
I haven’t had a trouble with my 88/05 with loading or pulling the bolt back but what I think could cause the sticky bolt is maybe the pressure for the improved spitzer would expand the case enough to cause a little friction in the chamber. Just a guess.
@christophergoodwin-qo7tg7 ай бұрын
They are much easier to open after firing if you oil the brass with mineral oil
@23GreyFox5 жыл бұрын
Even with the problems, i have the feeling the M88/05 is still a better rifle than the Mosin Nagant.
@demonbright72922 жыл бұрын
why hate the mosin though?
@23GreyFox2 жыл бұрын
@@demonbright7292 I have no idea where you get the 'hate' part from? One of the worst bolt-action design ever serviced is not a statement of hate, just a fact.
@demonbright72922 жыл бұрын
@@23GreyFox but its not, its a simple desing that has verry much outlived its lifespan. maybe you have only handled mosins in poor condition but every mosin ive handled have been ok rifles, not good, but most certainly not the worst. you are stating your opinion not fact. it is kinda obvious you have much disdain for mosin nagants.
@23GreyFox2 жыл бұрын
@@demonbright7292 I look at the design, and compare it with other designs. Everyone that knows something about rifle construction will tell you the same. It was all what russia had, not because it was good. Your hurt feelings doesn't matter. Even the Arisaka Type 30 was far better.
@demonbright72922 жыл бұрын
@@23GreyFox dude, Im going to call out your bs, cause let's face it. Pretending you know everything about firearms and making wildly inaccurate statements doesn't make you some gun guru, and my opinion on the m91 and its decendants doesn't either. The firearms was manufactured from the 1890s to well into the 1950s by Russia alone. It wasn't their only option, it just happened to be a significantly robust design. Much like the ak47 was after it had seen improvements. There are very few weapons platforms that have had as long a service life as the mosin has. That is a fact that on its own proves that the mosin is while not a great rifle, not the worst. You obviously have never really looked I I firearm design as you most likely infer that complexity makes a weapon better, but that is not always the case. The mosin and its simple system have managed to thrive for so long simply because it's simple. The mosin is not special, it's not great and it's rather heavy, but it is by no means a bad rifle. After all, an objectively bad rifle design usually blows up in the shooters face.
@v220588 жыл бұрын
someone get the 2x4s its bash open the bolt time!
@Candrsenal8 жыл бұрын
+J/22058 Boots!
@MrBioniclefan18 жыл бұрын
Wow natural selection played it's part that's a relief.
@Candrsenal8 жыл бұрын
Not a bad first pass
@MrBioniclefan18 жыл бұрын
C&Rsenal Yeah
@Haldrahir8 жыл бұрын
Good coverage, another great show.
@Candrsenal8 жыл бұрын
+Mikesnafk Thanks!
@mariofobas86828 жыл бұрын
Awesome videos! Since i'm from Italy, i do hope i'm not gonna see for much long that '91 carcano laying on the rack!
@Candrsenal8 жыл бұрын
+Mario Fobas We have finally acquired all the Carcano examples we need. Just have to sit down and do a LOT of translating for research. BUT another Italian gun is on the way very soon.
@MichaelMoellerTRLInc8 жыл бұрын
Simply stellar work once again.
@Candrsenal8 жыл бұрын
+Michael Moeller Thanks!
@skulychen118 жыл бұрын
the fear of every shooter, a barrel blow. great episode as always :D
@Candrsenal8 жыл бұрын
+skulychen11 even just a bilge...the splinters
@mihaeltomasovic6 жыл бұрын
maybe this would be best for me to post on the Mauser G98 video; however, I wanted to just mention it here... I simply adore the Mauser 1889 Belgian model and especially the Spanish 1893 7x57mm as well as the Chilean models in the same caliber. they seem to have a much farther point-blank range, and I find them to be inherently more accurate just because of the 7x57mm rather than the 8mm Mauser cartridge. what do you guys think? have you guys fired both the 7x57mm and the 7.92x57mm Mausers (1893, 1896, and 1898 especially)?
@canadiannationalist55058 жыл бұрын
Continue on man great work
@capajo028 жыл бұрын
I thought I knew about these rifles... haha... I was wrong. I knew about the Gewehr 88 and 88/05, but the other stuff was all new to me. I need to dig out my 88 and see what it is now. Great video!
@Candrsenal8 жыл бұрын
+capajo02 thanks! Glad it was informative
@torpedosaway8 жыл бұрын
Heyo C&Rsenal, you guys really do a bang up job on these videos. Also, love that you have a strong female as the shooter. You go Mae! Perforate those paper soldiers!
@maewinchester20308 жыл бұрын
Thanks! Those paper soldiers didn't stand a chance :)
@trevorphilips37248 жыл бұрын
very nice,thank you guys,you are the best!
@Candrsenal8 жыл бұрын
+Marjan Dicov No u
@ryanterwilliger2255 жыл бұрын
Hi Othias, I’m Ryan! That’s how I start off every one of these videos, and I haven’t gotten tired of it yet! 😅✌🏻
@ralphdodson98658 жыл бұрын
A very good presentation! I own a gew 88/05 with all the proof marks that show it is good to shoot and it is in great shape. I know that you covered it in the video but I have heard conflicting stories about ammo. I am hearing that you cannot shoot off the shelf 8mm mauser ammo, but I also hear that you can. My rifle has the nm, S, Z, the good barrel taper and is in great shape. Any help would be great
@Candrsenal8 жыл бұрын
If you have the updated barrel you should be fine. But the earlier bore tends to put the squeeze on bullets and more powerful rounds could build up a LOT of extra pressure
@Lomi311 Жыл бұрын
Pinging the clip out the top is so ingenious. Surprising more mannlicher systems didn’t try it.
@jimmosher99783 жыл бұрын
Great series, fabulous detail! Regarding ammunition, was Mae shooting .323 S Patrone diameter rounds in the 88/05 demo? I've always loaded .318 bullets for my Loewe 1890 88/05 (Turkish crescent on the safety) as a precaution against overpressuring the rifle. Spitzer .318 bullets have been hard to find and the round nosed projectiles don't feed well from the magazine. I've read that U.S. factory ammo has been downloaded to adjust for the larger diameter S Patrone.
@thurin848 жыл бұрын
great as always! i really smell what your, ummmm, cooking? my theory for the difficult extractions? clearly the weapon is becoming hot and bothered being handled by may. clearly.
@maewinchester20308 жыл бұрын
That can happen :)
@sailingmaster8 жыл бұрын
After seeing the Forgotten Weapons video on the Winchester 1895 lever action built for the Russian army in 7.62x54r, I really hope to see you guys do a video on that rifle.
@Candrsenal8 жыл бұрын
+sailingmaster It is absolutely on our list.
@sailingmaster8 жыл бұрын
+C&Rsenal that's got to be just a fantastic rifle. It's definitely on my want list.
@samhouston12884 жыл бұрын
Did they ever do the video on the Turkish 1888/05/35? I just bought one and would love to know more about it.
@weijohn244 жыл бұрын
Sorry Bud, I don't think they have. Guessing the 35 means the year 1935, I doubt they will. They ONLY cover WWI weapons.
@Bob1942ful8 жыл бұрын
Have you thought of having an end of year or era show and cover your favorite long gun and pistol that you have covered.
@Candrsenal8 жыл бұрын
+Bob1942ful We will definitely do a review once we've got things wrapped up.
@raymondgill97968 жыл бұрын
Fascinating and well presented as ever. I am going to struggle to think of Germany as the "underdog" but I will try. Thank you.
@Candrsenal8 жыл бұрын
+Raymond Gill Manpower and material wise they ended up outnumbered. I don't know that they expected it though. Efficiency for efficiency's sake bought them a LOT of time.
@armoredangel01 Жыл бұрын
Keeping my fingers crossed that the 'Ankara Gewehr 1888' appears soon. That's a cool-looking variant of the rifle
@me33338 жыл бұрын
Is it wrong that I say "BANG" every time the animation fires a round?
@Candrsenal8 жыл бұрын
+me3333 That's how I did it.
@EDSKaR8 жыл бұрын
+C&Rsenal Where is that video where you forgot to record sound and you edited in all the bangs and clicks by voice?
@Candrsenal8 жыл бұрын
EDSKaR kzbin.info/www/bejne/aZ7CY3iBf9CdsKs
@captainchaos77062 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your help in identifying my mystery gew 88! It's an 88-05 with a Turkish rear sight. Got it for $400 today, but it has had the bolt handle hammered down to clear a scope. Did I get a decent deal?
@CobraMustang8 жыл бұрын
Dam I feel sorry for Karl over at InRange trying to run his 88/05 in their 2 gun match.
@EDSKaR8 жыл бұрын
+MrHemimechanic2 Karl and Ian do it to themselves, don't feel sorry for them.
@samhouston12884 жыл бұрын
@@EDSKaR They do it for us.
@AlexLuyckxPhoto8 жыл бұрын
No surprise at the "No" on this one, I could easily see the problems with ejecting/loading the next round as the gun heated up. I'd actually stick to my muzzle loader flintlock instead of this one :P
@maewinchester20308 жыл бұрын
+Alex Luyckx Yeah I tried to handle it as smoothly as possible and it only continued to increase in stiffness with every shot.
@chasetower67732 жыл бұрын
Thanks again
@Targetpopper8 жыл бұрын
I really like my 88/05. I don't have any problems with loading or extracting but then again I am steering clear of WW2 and Cold war 8mm Surplus and run handloads with a .321 diameter bullet. I would like to try the Romanian steel cased ammo in the rifle as that has a .318 diameter bullet and a lighter powder load. They are neat little rifles. I figure that if I want to shoot a LOT of 8mm then I will shoot one of my 98 variants.
@Candrsenal8 жыл бұрын
+Targetpopper Did you check all your markings?
@Targetpopper8 жыл бұрын
Well it has the "S" marking and when the local gunshop and I checked the diameter of the bore of my gun and his 88/05 they both appeared good to go. This is a great episode and one of my favorites.
@Candrsenal8 жыл бұрын
Targetpopper Glad to hear!
@Targetpopper8 жыл бұрын
If I feel squirrely enough tomorrow I'll run a few clips through the gun with a few different chargers and post a video on my channel of the results. The only surplus ammo I have in 8mm is Turkish though and that stuff is loaded pretty spicy for these rifles I think.
@Candrsenal8 жыл бұрын
Targetpopper Link me up if you get any results.
@kenander458 жыл бұрын
Good job!
@NuclearAlchemist8 жыл бұрын
You provided my snow-bound Colorado butt entertainment that doesn't include watching Disney movies over and over and over with my 4 year old. Thanks for another great episode! Also, I love how earnest you both are. It's cute.
@Candrsenal8 жыл бұрын
+NuclearAlchemist It's really warm here. I did my errands on my motorcycle. Also what is snow?
@NuclearAlchemist8 жыл бұрын
The natural form of water! Why, did you think it was liquid?
@williamprince11148 жыл бұрын
Excellence is certainly your base line
@sean737482 жыл бұрын
I have one of the double ground rear sights i think. Also the barrel was forced matched to the reciever by over stamping the serial with receiver serial. Is this the work of fudds?
@ludditeneaderthal8 жыл бұрын
your extraction binding with heat up is actually easy to explain, that jacket. it's not ventilated, and makes barrel contact with only a couple percent of the barrel surface (and thusly, the interior surface of the jacket). the rest of the internal volume is "dead air space". the barrel is, essentially, a thermos bottle. radiative loss only really occurs in the boring, not off the exterior. now, our nice hot barrel gets LONGER as it heats, and is held in compression between fore and aft barrel jacket mounts (and the jacket, being insulated by the dead air space, heats less). add in barrel machining "induced stresses", voila, your barrel "kinks", at really tiny scale, of course. as the biggest "natural stress risers" (sharp corners) on that barrel is the barrel shoulder/receiver interface (and both ends of the jacket mount), you get most "shimmy" right in the middle of your chamber. pretty much why the non-ventilated barrel jacket went the way of the dodo, except in sporting recoil op models. had Mae been shooting at 500 yds from a solid rest, she would have seen her point of impact go all kinds of "wanderlust" as the heat built. that was a major battlefield moan of the 88 in the "great war", it REALLY wandered under heat. it seems that jacket was more a curse than a feature worthy of paying to keep, lololololol. funny how often that happens in "fad brilliance"
@ludditeneaderthal4 жыл бұрын
@Herbert Norkus numrich probably has barrel jackets in stock. if one had a working spitzer converted 88, it would certainly make an interesting experiment to ventilate a spare, or even do a free float reaming at the front mounting shoulder
@IchBinJager11 ай бұрын
Is there a recording of the shooting without the music in the background? I wanted to see if the shooting sound could be repurposed for a game, with your permission.
@williamprince11148 жыл бұрын
Years ago I had a "guild" sporting rifle built on a 88 action in 8X57mm spitzer that had been used on safari by professional hunters. It ended up in Panama where the original owner settled down before WWII. He lived out his last days there as a security specialist for a fruit company. His daughter married a banker and eventually resettled in Miami during the 80's . When he passed she sold it to a neighbor who eventually offered it to my father who was not interested but put me in touch with the seller. $200 later it was mine for almost a month when I was offered $1000. That was about 1993 and I was recently married with a new mortgage and my first child on the way so the money was too much to resist. That and I kept hearing how brittle they were which made me a little worried. But I did shoot a lot of light target loads in that short period I owned it. It went to a good collector of early smokeless powder sporters and target rifles. Upon his passing all those old rifles went to auction and the collection was broken up. Pity.....loved those old schutzen rifles old John had. Sorry for the long post........just wanted to share a tangential experience.
@Candrsenal8 жыл бұрын
+William Prince Family comes first. But that doesn't always silence regret.
@williamprince11148 жыл бұрын
+C&Rsenal Regret is a howling alley cat that wakes you in the night. You can often silence but at what cost now?
@Candrsenal8 жыл бұрын
William Prince shoes?
@piatpotatopeon83053 жыл бұрын
At what point does a spitzer bullet stop being the most effective shape? I've heard you mention something about diminishing returns with caliber.
@generalgrevious51968 жыл бұрын
Will yourself and Mae ever decide to transfer to a WW2 small arms soon? I wish to see the Fliegerfaust; if possible.
@Candrsenal8 жыл бұрын
We have at least 60 more WWI guns to cover. Then we'll be happy to borrow your FliegerFaust.
@burtvhulberthyhbn75838 жыл бұрын
I have a Danzig 1888 with Turkish sights. with 1937-1943 manufacture Turkish ammo I do have difficulty with extraction as described here. I did have to replace the front sight as it was way too short for a 100 yds point of impact. you really provided a fascinating historical story regards the Lowe "jewish" conspiracy. Some things just never change.
@Candrsenal8 жыл бұрын
+Burt Hulbert Glad to hear it's shooting.
@burtvhulberthyhbn75838 жыл бұрын
+C&Rsenal I should note it's 1891 manufacture with the .323 barrel. I bought it for $39.99 in about 1975 with a rather nice bore.
@jamesvatter57297 ай бұрын
Mine obviously does not have its original bolt. So tight to install and work!
@essi28 жыл бұрын
Another rifle that goes 'PING' when it's done! :D
@nicholasford48208 жыл бұрын
Great video as always! Do you ever come across information about the original cost of these guns? It makes sense that upgrading Gew 88s cost less than buying a brand-new 98 but I'm curious what that actually worked our to in marks and pfenning.
@Candrsenal8 жыл бұрын
+Nicholas Ford I probably have the numbers somewhere in these notes... maybe. Great now I'll have to go looking.
@clayronso39328 жыл бұрын
The Germans could have extended this rifles life by issuing it with a Pedersen device in .32 auto.
@Candrsenal8 жыл бұрын
+Clay Ronso all guns should be .32 ACP
@jamess6628 жыл бұрын
+C&Rsenal That should be on a shirt. Lol
@racing77827 жыл бұрын
cool, never heard of the Pedersen device. Damn ingenious...
@samhouston12884 жыл бұрын
@@racing7782 It's really cool in that they basically built a functioning gun that fit inside the chamber of a 30-06. but it's really bad in that it didn't work and would have been a disaster had it seen widespread use.
@o80y111 ай бұрын
Gotta love a good light doohickey
@MrBioniclefan18 жыл бұрын
So if you keep trying to avoid doing the SMLE I'm wondering if your planning on doing the MLE first the Long Lees.
@Candrsenal8 жыл бұрын
It would certainly help
@MrBioniclefan18 жыл бұрын
C&Rsenal Yep and I don't have a long Lee to lend so yeah. :P Wish I had one that I could lend but sorry.
@Jesses0018 жыл бұрын
I am not surprised it has sticky bolt issues. It was a rifle that got re-rimmed once already after a half-ass production job to start with, then re-chambered for a new round. The chamber on that thing is most likely too large, or too small, or too long, or too short, or a combination there of. Like you said, all the ones that are going to blow up already blew up, so any obvious problems have been worked out...though fire.
@kentvesser9484 Жыл бұрын
I wonder if part of the problem too is that that light barrel and chamber get hot very fast and the way the metal expands from the heat it tightens the chamber. It may be reasonable quality steel, but dimensionally is problematic as it heats.
@ETFRoss7 жыл бұрын
Was the extractor at fault for the failure to extract/eject once the rifle heated up?
@MrRoboskippy8 жыл бұрын
Great episode guys. I especially like the animations in the light doo hickey.
@Candrsenal8 жыл бұрын
+MrRoboskippy So technical.
@bigj22405 жыл бұрын
Did you have to work the bolt to unload these? Like a blind box on a hunting rifle?
@TubeYou73 жыл бұрын
So are these general safe to shoot? They've been converted but I've heard you should still be cautious because of their lack of strength compared to a 98.
@avian68tb2 жыл бұрын
They should be as long as you get it checked out by a licensed gunsmith who specializes in old rifles.
@dobypilgrim61608 жыл бұрын
Othais and Mae, I have has my GEW.88/05 for a bit over a month now, and I think 5 range trips. While it is certainly not as easy to extract as my Argentine Mausers, I am really having no problems and it is smoother with more leverage than my WWI era Mosins because of the longer bolt handle. I am using PPU Match 200 grain ammo. Maybe less pressure than the ammunition you were using? Overall I like it enough to get an 88/05/35. That one is smoother yet. Still looking for an actual GEW.88 but that will come eventually. Thanks again for all you do.
@Candrsenal8 жыл бұрын
+Doby Pilgrim Thanks! Unfortunately our data wasn't from rifles that survived 80 years of service in Germany and Turkey. Likely the strong remained as problematic guns wandered off. All we have to go on for the time are German records.
@dobypilgrim61608 жыл бұрын
Oh no your data is supported in the books I have read, But the converse can be true. Often we are shooting rifles with mismatched parts and sometimes the match is better on one rifle than another one. Somehow I doubt Loewe would let out a majority of rifles with stiff bolts. Maybe the one you were shooting was sticky for that reason as much as anything. Mine is an 1891 Loewe.
@shilelea8 жыл бұрын
Haha the Charles Ross graphic.
@Candrsenal8 жыл бұрын
+shilelea official mascot
@EDSKaR8 жыл бұрын
+C&Rsenal I thought Mae was your official mascot?
@Candrsenal8 жыл бұрын
EDSKaR oh. Well then he is co-star
@UrBoiWilson8 жыл бұрын
yay! new video
@Candrsenal8 жыл бұрын
+William Brannan woo!
@ambee5148 жыл бұрын
The Gewehr 1888/05, ejection as smooth as pineapple skin.
@Candrsenal8 жыл бұрын
+ambee514 mmmm
@yuanmingtan65015 ай бұрын
There is no "Z" mark on the receiver. It means the rifling grooves had no been deepened from 8.08 mm to 8.2 mm. Is there any risk of excess pressure?
@coltm4a1867 жыл бұрын
Was this rifle also used by the Austrian-Hungarian Empire during WW1? If it was, how many were used by the Empire's troops? I saw a list of infantry weapons of WW1 on Wikipedia and this rifle showed up on the Austrian-Hungarian Empire page, and I just want to know if that's accurate.
@Candrsenal7 жыл бұрын
They were adopted as the M.13, but I'm unsure of how many.
@coltm4a1867 жыл бұрын
C&Rsenal Thanks for responding. Was there any differences with the M13, or was it just the same rifle as the 1888/05? Keep up the great videos! You deserve way more subscribers!
@bucky1458 жыл бұрын
ping!
@anthonyhayes12675 жыл бұрын
It's a certain rifle's 'garand'father
@pshabino8 жыл бұрын
Good, a new video, just in time to take my mind off my 40% shot at getting an M1 carbine. Fingers crossed - come on CMP!
@Candrsenal8 жыл бұрын
+MadMed Good luck!
@pshabino8 жыл бұрын
+C&Rsenal Is it tuesday yet? No... der-dang.
@Candrsenal8 жыл бұрын
MadMed sorry.
@elfinfluff8 жыл бұрын
The heat seizing is interesting; I've had my Mosin-Nagant do that on me as well on hot days after 20-30 rounds. I've done some quick research online, and common thought is that there's still enough cosmo in the chamber, along with residue/debris building up, that heat expansion becomes an issue. I haven't had a chance to try (and with 7.62x54R prices being what they are now, no real pressing need) to go in there and give the chamber a *serious* cleaning to see if that fixes the problem. I wonder if you guys were running into something similar? I"m guessing that rifle spent a good long while in deep storage at some point.
@Candrsenal8 жыл бұрын
+elfinfluff I would think it had something to do with the new cartridge more than any refurb
@PieterBreda8 жыл бұрын
I suppose if you ended up as a reservist in the trenches, this rifle wouldn't cheer up your day. Excellent work as usual. Question to Mae. Would it have been easier to work the bolt if you had more arm strenght, or was the bolt just that sticky?
@maewinchester20308 жыл бұрын
I mean yeah with more arm strength I could've wrestled it open easier, but it would've still continued to get worse the longer I shot it.
@amateurshooter9278 жыл бұрын
Great video guys, I get the chance to see very few of these guns in the wild (at least at the gun shows and collector shows around me) and it kinda makes me wonder where, if there were high production numbers for some of these, where they've all disappeared to. Is it worth doing a video in the future about the Russian M91, M91 Dragoon and M07 Carbine, or have these rifles been talked about to death already? Keep up the good work, can't wait for another update.
@Candrsenal8 жыл бұрын
+Matthew Shermer yep
@robertadam71824 жыл бұрын
Their bolts are smooth af for those who haven’t shot them
@dongambino53083 жыл бұрын
What ammo did you use? Trying to figure out what’s a good brand or grain
@robertadam71823 жыл бұрын
@@dongambino5308 make sure to buy 8x57js cartridges with the lowest grain you can find, I don’t remember the brand of ammunition I used, but I assume ppu makes it
@brettblades90355 жыл бұрын
Othais, I have a GEW 88 manufactured at SPANDAU 1895. The front band is marked 2. G.R.1.rifle number166 with a 30 stamping sideways above the 166 serial number 5630, all matching numbers with no import markings. It has the markings of the new metal stamped with the S and the punch mark on top of the receiver. Can you give me any history on this?
@dongambino53083 жыл бұрын
Not positive but could be from the grenadier regiment, 166th company and 30th gun, or vice versa 30th company and 166th gun.
@dongambino53083 жыл бұрын
S for the new sfitzer rounds
@girghisyatooma98314 жыл бұрын
I bought one over 50 yr's ago , and have probably fired over a thousand rounds thru it with no problems.
@dongambino53083 жыл бұрын
What ammo do you use?
@girghisyatooma98313 жыл бұрын
@@dongambino5308 standard 8 MM
@generalgrevious51968 жыл бұрын
I am currently looking into your shows! I personally enjoy educated people who put their prioritizing moments on the viewers wanting! I personally want to learn some information I may not know of on my Dou 44 kar98k- all matching.
@Candrsenal8 жыл бұрын
Glad you're enjoying it!
@611_hornet58 жыл бұрын
So what ammo did you guys use in this rifle and for the original Gew. 88? Everything I've read about shooting these things talks about only using meticulously handloaded ammunition otherwise the rifle is going to get blowed up real good.
@drummersc848 жыл бұрын
+Francis Borek They were handloads using .318 cast tin & lead 160 grain bullet with a gas check.
@611_hornet58 жыл бұрын
Cool, thanks.
@moogernaut4 ай бұрын
12:49 Still no Gew 88/05/35 video😢
@SkyPilot546 жыл бұрын
Nice gun
@frederikyde9592 Жыл бұрын
Hey, can you provide me the dimensions of the spring and the position of the spring on the dust/ mud cover on the bothom? Like the one at 10:09. Thank you!
@kwqd548 жыл бұрын
I enjoy your videos. Good job. Gewehr Turk 1888/05/35 video still coming?
@Candrsenal8 жыл бұрын
One day after WWI
@nailed2thecross01 Жыл бұрын
How would you distinguish between the 88/S and the 88/05?
@subjectwau40758 жыл бұрын
My idea made it into the show? I'm glad, although my only problem was with the names, to be honest. So, here's an other one, if I can be so cocky: could you make a short special on how the typical bayonet mount of that era worked? I tried to look it up, but there isn't any reliable info on the net, and in my country it's hard to find a weapon which isn't a hunting rifle or a .22 target pistol.
@Candrsenal8 жыл бұрын
+Subject Wau we could probably do a bayonet comparison in the future
@subjectwau40758 жыл бұрын
C&Rsenal I'd be rather happy for that, so thanks for considering it.
@PGTRegard8 жыл бұрын
If you need an 88/05/35, I have one you could borrow. Not that it's rare or anything, just thought I'd offer.
@Candrsenal8 жыл бұрын
+PGTRegard We have one handy, but man are they cool