History of WWI Primer 129: Dutch Mannlicher 1895 Documentary

[@MilsurpMikeChannel]

Othias and Mae start an ice cream shop with their biggest seller being the Schlagel-Milkshake...

[@Candrsenal]

take your point.

[@zachsorenson1382]

Sigh

[@Erdanya]

With everything you cover *around* the adoption of the rifles themselves, I've probably learned more about my own country's 1800s - 1940 military and political history in these 51 or so minutes than I have in the 38 years before. History class certainly never bothered with that time period other than 'Economically it was a bit shitty, and then Germany invaded'. :| It also makes me realize I should visit the Hembrug Museum, for that matter. Thanks for doing awesome work, guys.

[@Bird_Dog00]

They do give you some context for the developement of those rifles, don't they? And I think it is very relevant. A lot of the descisions and compromises you see in those rifles only make sense in the context of the political and economical situation as well as the technological progression. You can learn a lot of a countries overall situation by analysing a government procurement program.

[@MrJimheeren]

@@Bird_Dog00why would a high school history textbook give any details about weapon procurement ? We’ve got a couple of wonderful army museums where you can get all the details you want. But high schoolers don’t have to know what kind of weapon the the army was using in 1914

[@Tadicuslegion78]

World: So.....are you really neutral? Dutch: *cocks Rifle* World: *slowly backs away*

[@51WCDodge]

Notice how the Neutral countries, Belgium, Sweden, Switzerland, all seem to produce the best weapons?

[@Cheesytarian]

@@51WCDodge I wonder if the fact that they actually were not used in trench warfare skew our opinion on them? More of a question of logistics, environment and general usage.

[@88porpoise]

51WCDodge Not really. Belgium (not neutral, though not intentionally) and Sweden both used Mausers, essentially the an early version of the Gewehr 98 the Germans used. The Spanish used one as well. You can make an argument that 6.5 the was a better cartridge for a rifle, but you also see that in belligerents like Italy and Japan. In addition, you can make the case that the small bore cartridges, while better for riflemen, were worse overall because machineguns benefitted from the more powerful cartridges (and why both Italy and Japan were moving to cartridges of around .3 inch caliber before WWII. The Dutch Manlichers were not the best rifles. They were plenty good enough, but not above the crowd and probably somewhat below the best (there are good reasons that the Gewehr 88 was replaced by the Germans). And the rifle and cartridge were made for the country that manage to go to war against the Central Powers twice. The Swiss rifle, was definitely among the best. Exclusively used by a neutral nation. But the rest don’t really fit. I do wonder if there is a reason smaller nations seem to have moved to the lighter 7 or 6.5mm cartridges versus the 7.5 to 8mm of the larger countries. Or if that isn’t true at all and just happens to be the ones I am familiar with.

[@51WCDodge]

@@Cheesytarian How many combat forces use weapons from these scources? FN, Bofors, to name two. One of the things about Neutrality, and the US is a prime example , other peoples wars = Large profits at home.

[@51WCDodge]

@@88porpoise I wonder if the South African wars had a major influence on cartridge choice by the bigger nations. You always get the tales of shooting a fly's eye out at a thousand yards, the damm colonials sitting out of range of our rifles and shooting us. So the demand was for is a big long range cartridge.That was the War the decison makers had fought. Same argument that got us 7.62 NATO when the intermediate cartridge was the obvious choice. Thinking more about this: You also have New Toy syndrome. A range of proppellants had suddenly appeared that could be tweacked and fashioned in a way Gunpowder never could, so all of sudden Ballistics becomes a cutting edge technology. What boy dosen't want the biggest , fastist , furthist toy on the block?

[@thesherpa]

Neutrality were declared

[@RonJohn63]

"Tell my wife, 'hello.'"

[@pancakes3250]

Funny.

[@nirfz]

Each of these epsiode i kind of expect Othias to say that.

[@calvinhandley2373]

nirfz He really should do that. Maybe show an old B&W clip of children in Lederhosen playing games?

[@Jason-fm4my]

Pew Pew!

[@genericpersonx333]

Just to say, Othais, I appreciate you being very sincere in your asking for subs, likes, and clicks. Most KZbinrs aren't sincere these days, especially when they just run off the like-sub-comment-etc. thing. If ever you question if your kindly Southern manners are an impediment to this channel, you can allay those fears because it is refreshing to see a man who doesn't feel a need to pander to the audience like some duplicitous Yankee carpetbagger. Keep it up and I look forward to the Feature Presentation on Dutch Bang Sticks.

[@gunsbeersmemes]

Mannlicher: Invents the Enbloc. Every smaller European country scratching their necks like crackheads: tell me bout dat clip, doh.

[@nirfz]

Austria Hungary wasn't a small country, neither were France and Italy, even Romania and Bulgaria were not considered small i think and one war later even the US used them.

[@JohnnyLouisXIX]

@@nirfz Joke

[@LN997-i8x]

@@Romuls753 The 1895 Lee Navy is somewhat like this. You load a "stripper clip" (it's really an en-bloc, but looks like a regular stripper) of cartridges into it; upon chambering the first round the clip is released and falls out the bottom. It isn't integral to the feed mechanism like it is in a Mannlicher, and you can load it singly without one.

[@Drexus76]

After he invented the detatchable magazine.

[@51WCDodge]

The main drawback, and to battle feild soldiers I'd have thought an obvious one. What happens if you don't have the endblock? Can I shove loose rounds in or bash things about to get the rifle to work?

[@Grubnar]

It was funny to see the older clips with Mae showing the other rifles, and noticing how her hair style changes with almost every gun ... shows for how long you have been doing this. Great job as always! A hello and thanks from Iceland.

[@-Ironers-]

Its the appearance of grey hair that really indicates how long they have been doing this show.

[@Barabel22]

Ironers How old is May?

[@planescaped]

Hooray, time to learn some turn of the century Dutch history I know nothing about. Oh and a gun or something.

[@roybakker1973]

My Grandfather fielded one in WW2. Wished i had one. The Dutch high command was shocked by the Rotterdam Blitz. Knowing the army was running low on supplies and ammunition, and after receiving news that the city of Utrecht had been given an ultimatum similar to that of Rotterdam,Winkelman held a meeting with other Dutch generals. They decided that further resistance was futile and wanted to protect civilian residents. In the afternoon of 14 May, Winkelman issued a proclamation to his army, ordering them to surrender. The waterline held against the Germans, only the Grebbelinie, a forward line fell after heavy fighting.

[@pietvermaat5928]

My father was in the army in 1940. The army had suffered from the pacifist movement in the 1930's . Geen man en geen cent. No soldiers and no money. People wearing pins depicting a broken rifle. (gebroken geweertje). My dad told me that they were issued with one clip for every rifle / carbine to shoot at German planes. He was a guest of the Germans (POW) afterward.

[@Procket12]

@@pietvermaat5928 The "Pacifist" movement of the 1930s were the result of communist ideological subversion on the part of the Soviet Union.

[@Procket12]

Had the Dutch had an air force like the British along with plentiful anti-aircraft guns, they might have been able to hold up against German bombing raids. Rotterdam was also the reason that Denmark surrendered in a single day. The threat of Copenhagen being bombed to rubble along with the Danish PM being an idiot by not allowing Danish forces to deploy to the border when the Germans were gathering on the other side guaranteed their surrender.

[@roybakker1973]

@@Procket12 The dutch airforce had 139 Battleready aircraft on the 10th of May 1940. Of those 34 were destroyed on the ground and 43 were shot down. The rest were mostly set on fire by the groundcrew after the netherlands surrendered. But still these few aircraft were able to shoot down 350 german aircraft in a few days where especially the Fokker G1 (an all wood twin engined fighter) was extremely succesfull. not short after the de havilland mosquito was developped in the UK, based on the successes of the all wooden Fokker G-1 and the USA produced the P-38 lightning based on the aurodynamics of the G-1. Only 23 Fokker G-1 Airlpanes entered the Battle and had a K/D ratio of 1:8 what was very impressive. Some say that if the dutch would have had 100 operational the airwar would have had a different outcome.

[@Liam_TheNoob]

As Dutch heritage myself I'm all for 2 more episodes on their small arms! :)

[@theJellyjoker]

"Dutch man licker" you can still get those in the Netherlands.

[@SlavicCelery]

I've heard they're available in Las Vegas as well.

[@PieterBreda]

Yeah. We are very liberal. Not about rifles though. It is infinitely easier to find a man licker than to own a gun legally. The criminals don't have that problem.

[@wijk89]

You cannot.

[@Iandrasill]

licher comes from the german lich or corpse, it is a man corpser kinda

[@drewgates1167]

Amsterdam?

[@HankIndieGames]

I've been playing a lot of Tannenberg (and Verdun) and I love how this channel contextualizes the weapons in those games. Always thorough and entertaining!

[@michaelcoalson]

The quality of this content is incredible. Hundreds of years from now your work will be referred to as the go to source for this info.

[@testhamster123]

Thank you King Simp!

[@Gunsbeerfreedom87]

You're welcome.

[@AAX11111]

@@Gunsbeerfreedom87 Still cant believe you actually pulled it off /k/apt

[@BetterOnichThanSorry]

I am so happy that you've covered a Dutch rifle, and I eagerly await the KNIL episode! It's worth noting that Beaumont-Vitali rifles with Imperial German proof marks have turned up in private collections, apparently used for reserve troops from rifles found in Liege, Belgium, in an arsenal where they were converted from the Beaumont 1871 to Beaumont-Vitali for some time. So the Beaumont did in fact see "service" in the Great War, although almost certainly no shots fired in anger.

[@joshuawayne3941]

I always look forward to your new episodes and have learned a lot more than I thought when I started watching yall, keep up the great work!

[@aaroncfriedman]

Thanks for the history! I’ve watched every episode and have learned tons. Details rock!

[@aaroncfriedman]

Oh, don’t worry about that little guy. Shenanigans.

[@erwinheins6365]

I realize that it has been at least 3 years since this show became available but since I recently became an owner of a Dutch Mannlicher 95 I also realize that a more informative effort will not be happening unless you do it.. Thanks to you I now know so much about this interesting rifle. Another problem with this rifle which I think would happen quite often is that, as happened to me, restoring the bolt into the receiver too quickly can cause the ejector to break. I just wish I could find a replacement or someone that can repair it. By the way mine was built by Steyr in 1901and has side swivels. Thanks again for a very enlightening account of the history of this rifle.

[@Khanclansith]

Thank you "King Simp" for loaning the Rifle, you troll you.

[@Gunsbeerfreedom87]

You're welcome.

[@scipio10000]

I shot the Beaumont just a couple of weeks ago. Toevallig!

[@Franky46Boy]

I love this episode. I love this rifle. Looking forward to the next episode about the Dutch M95 Steyr-Mannlicher rifles and carbines!

[@jcorbo7518]

I have been waitingh for this one for a LOOONG time. I'm elated to see its finally here. Now for the ten episodes of the Geweer variants PS: This is one of the best episodes since the last one, looking forward to the easiest language to learn being butchered variant by variant

[@jasonmartin1668]

Thanks!

[@Candrsenal]

Thank you

[@dhinatta_too8142]

19:31 as always C&Rsenal always have great gun animation

[@vandor1976]

This the 129th episode. I am not complaining just I think it is much more than you or anybody think when you started this documentary serial. Thank you your hard work !!!

[@tenofprime]

I am loving this recent set of neutral power arms. There is a ton of history in how and why a nation stayed out of the fight and it is just as interesting as those who did get involved.

[@ESA221]

My local shop had a M95 carbine Bubba special on the shelf about 3ish years ago for 100 and change. I still kick myself for thinking the 6.5x53R chambering would keep others away.

[@DRNewcomb]

The Dutch Mannlicher was actually popular with some elephant hunters due to the outstanding penetration of the solid 6.5 mm bullet. Of course, they also had someone standing by with a serious express rifle, just in case.

[@tristanpedersen9056]

Always such great and thorough information. Thank you, I have always loved firearms history and you keep me learning. I truly appreciate what you do.

[@jameson7276]

Liked, subscribed and commented to increase engagement. The Dutch don't afraid of anything with this cool .

[@avanticurecanti9998]

Ahh, the Dutch Mannlicher. The best rifle to ever have 6,741 carbine variants

[@Sman7290]

I was just at my lgs and they had a 5 round Dutch Mannlicher clip sitting in a pile of stuff on a shelf. I was a bit surprised to see one.

[@RubberduckWVU]

Literally can't wait for every episode to drop love yalls work

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[@rg8521]

The call to action segment is the perfect time to leave a comment!

[@c.caecilius8791]

Esoteric ... and cool! Another well done episode.

[@SasoriZert]

I often wonder does Othias give off random gun spec, features and history in his sleep at this point

[@Candrsenal]

Just farts

[@SasoriZert]

@@Candrsenal 😂😂😂😂

[@tenofprime]

@@Candrsenal but are those farts gun facts? You could be doing Morse code with your butt.

[@janwacawik7432]

@@tenofprime Wouldn't be surprised if Othais farted out Kar98AZ production numbers in his sleep.

[@colemanmoore9871]

@@Candrsenal Wow! I thought that would have been Patreon-level information.

[@DanielESmith-iz7lx]

How the heck do you maintain the monolog so well?!! You keep me in gaged (sp). You really helped (and I mean all involved in production) understand my SMLE and appreciate it a lot more. It was saved from a crap store and I had to Frankenstein it to working order. You and others pointed me in the right direction and I was able to save a piece of history. Thank you.

[@nesquick84]

That opening remark was spot on

[@davidkatz1503]

Love seeing the notification for a new episode pop up. It really gets me excited for every other tuesday.

[@CaptainCiph3r]

I love how easy that thing is to disassemble.

[@deancorlett7288]

Love the show, have watched everything so far...well i think I have

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[@josephenders1893]

Thanks for the hard work Othias, Mae, et al.

[@patrick2t724]

Greetings from the Netherlands. I never saw this rifle before. Thanks for history lesson.

[@johnbrent1977]

You all do a great job anything want to know about fire arms you and for gotten weapons has me covered

[@MrTeijo]

Morning coffee and an episode of C&R? I don't mind if I do.

[@Boreas74]

Another great episode, hope it gets seen by more people.

[@alk7934]

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[@YYCRS]

I love when a new episode comes out and I have the next day off work . I don't stay up a hour later as they always seem to pop up when I'm brushing my teeth lol

[@tenofprime]

Know the feeling, they always seem to drop around 1AM my time.

[@ironofithaka8357]

I have been waiting for this video for so long, thank you 😄

[@richardanderson2411]

While my rifle is not in the world's best condition, it has proven to be very consistent at 2 inch group at 100 yards. Given my reloads, my C&R eyes and use of a simple rest, I consider this outstanding for an 120 year-old rifle.

[@DutchiefromHolland]

Liked the Dutch music on 20.58, thanks 😀. Looks like an early garand style dumping the clip when the last bullet is in the room

[@DrBreezeAir]

Thank you Othias, thank you Mae.

[@janrobertbos]

Very Nice!!! Greets from The Netherlands!!!

[@trevormott8872]

Excellent episode as always, thank you.

[@kregchrist2826]

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[@bobythebuilder]

Thanks for the episode

[@KuroNekoKohi]

Dutch history lesson with stuff i didn't learn at school, whoop whoop

[@richardcontinijr9661]

The duffle cut gives it a history and that's cool with me

[@pietvermaat5928]

It can also be a repair. The manual for armorers describes how to make the repair.

[@dr.donaldhurley2922]

Wonderful episode, as always. More history I didn't know.

[@alanmcconnaughey2698]

Cool cartridge and magazine ejection shot!

[@Jjbomba]

Top show,can’t wait for the next one

[@jarosejr]

Nice history lesson with an interesting rifle presented. Love these videos. Looking forward to the next two videos of this rifle tree development.

[@gunfisher4661]

Cool my buddy just picked on of these up without knowing what it was until we seen this video.

[@timblack6422]

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[@brianfoster4434]

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[@bruceinoz8002]

Post WW2, quite a few of the "East Indies" rifles / carbines were re-barreled in .303, with barrels made at Lithgow. The few examples I have seen were set up as single-shot arms. These apparently were intended for use by the newly-formed, post-independence Indonesian Army, which had accumulated a weird and wonderful collection of goodies including various Beaumonts, Lee Enfields, Johnsons, Madsen LMGs, lots of ex-Imperial Japanese weapons, the mythical Dutch Lugers, and so forth.

[@jsma9999]

Dutch Firearms OMG Did Not think of them. Thought them to be world war 2 list. Great Film Mae and Othais doing there thing for people who live outside USA.Part 1 of 3 OMG This is going to great for next six weeks Learning about this subject

[@comiketiger]

Remember when you are talking length and balance with May, to give consideration to her size. What will balance for Hickcock 45 at 6'8" and May can be day and night. Thanks for another great video. You guys are great!

[@omenran]

I don't think they talk about it much. But I believe they have Mae shooting in part because her size is close to the average/typical size of the soldiers in the war.

[@johnchristopherrobert1839]

Love the Mae-arsenal

[@paul121784]

great episode, as always

[@zaqzilla1]

I didn't really realize how big that rifle is until I saw May shoulder it. That's a huge rifle.

[@Gamer_1745]

Thanks for another episode

[@minuteman4199]

En block clips were designed for one time use. 100 years after the clips you have, have been use over and over again. I suspect they worked a lot better with factory ammo and one time use. Stripper clips actually get easier to use the older they get. We used to have mag charging tools and stripper clips for 7.62 mm ammo for our FN rifles, and we would take the rounds out of the clips and single load them into mags because the stripper clips didn't work at all.

[@nirfz]

That's an important point! Another thing i would think is that it needs fewer fine motor skills to put the whole en-bloc clip in. (And in stressfull situations or when your hands are really cold fine motor skills in the fingers are gone) Back then i think i would have been with the Dutch (, Austrians, Romanians, Italians, French). As long as you get factory ammo with original clips they would be my choice. Now, 100 years later when nobody produces them anymore, stripper clip feeding has the advantage that the rifle works without them too, which isn't that often the case with en-bloc feeding.

[@peterlazzari3950]

@@nirfz not sure about the en bloc being easier. I shoot a m95 and find it fiddlier than strippers. It also plays up on the feed occasionly though as mentioned my clips have been reloaded numerous times. I think if my life depended on it I'd go the stripper. You know that mosin or Mauser is going to feed fine.

[@jameskazd9951]

youtube failed to notify me of this episode. i think its the first time i have had that happen on this channel

[@Kdssow]

I always wonder why elderly people claim that the Dutch fought with muskets. This thing is a state of the art rifle, and has done great during May 1940.

[@marks_sparks1]

Yes, I thought it was oddon Wikipedia to say the Dutch were using "obsolete" Mannlicher 1895s yet the Germans were using a rifle design K98s just as old but not obsolete 🤔

[@NuclearAlchemist]

Most excellent! I guess my question with en bloc clips has to do with their ability to function well, and repeatedly, in a future semi-automatic that one nation might wield.

[@dnbuk3111]

Awesome content, thanks!

[@monkeyship74401]

Othias and Mae Delve into this classic. With a Delving Bell? Sorry, I see the same line on so many of these European Rifles. And once again Mae is smiling during the action sequences. Thanks for another chapter in the History of these wonderful firearms.

[@vonmazur1]

I have most of the Carbines and several of the Rifles. They were adjusted at the time of manufacture to fire accurately with the bayonet fixed. This was the practice in those times for almost every country...Mine shoot most accurately with the bayonet installed.

[@patrickduis]

Thanks for this nice episode (and yes, I'm Dutch)

[@christopherabernathy6115]

Dam why do I have work late i need to watch this

[@Scott079]

Can’t wait for the next episode, I actually just picked up a Dutch contract M95 styer dated 1911 that has been converted for the east India constabulary to 303 British with the press on compensator, which some people say is a bruiser with the recoil

[@chefemilj]

Thanks for the history

[@erikgranqvist3680]

You should do a special episode diving into the dark arts of ballistic, and how different bullets, loads, calibers (even the wood on a rifle) effect how a weapon shoot.

[@M.M.83-U]

A new 101 will be good.

[@chriscunnane6596]

great review

[@impliedtomato8760]

Love your show, the content is always amazing. Hello from the Great White North! (Canada, not Minnesota)

[@pilgrimm23]

1st post!!! you guys Rock

[@FishingNut]

Thank you ♡ it as always.

[@kylebradley3]

I always manage to see the video before I get the notification.

[@nothim7321]

Great content!!

[@nickg4422]

Schlegelmilk strikes again! Think he’d get more credit if his name was shorter? Poor guy got hosed by having too many consonants for comfort.

[@nirfz]

he even had one consonant more.... ;-) SchlegelmilCH

[@planescaped]

Gesundheit.

[@raylandraybels9462]

I really wished at least one nation adopted his 1896 trials rifle. It would have been interesting to see where it could have gone.

[@CousinDP]

I felt compelled to leave a comment!

[@grantdixon4115]

Leaving a comment to help Othias

[@lundyholland7487]

great vid

[@terrysmith7751]

Three episodes on Dutch rifles? I'm ready.

[@alexgo70]

thanks

[@Ms95670]

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