History of WWI Primer 132: Danish Krag-Jørgensen 1889/10 Documentary

[@Candrsenal]

For anyone confused why you're seeing this episode again: Some of our patrons noticed Othais had completely left out the Danish Krag's second locking lug. If you've already seen the episode and want to catch the big alterations, start at 26:24 and rewatch the animation at 35:01. C&Rsenal remains committed to providing our viewers and patrons with the most accurate information available. We have corrected our mistake, added a bit more depth, and re-uploaded an improved episode for you all.

[@chekovsgunman]

Aw man, and here I thought Christmas came early this week.

[@niklasaskham4208]

It’s ok, I’ll watch it all over again 😘

[@niel9612]

Mistakes happen, thanks for correcting it and keep up the good work. This combines 2 of my passions guns and history. PS. I would not have noticed it if you didn't say.

[@banzaibailey5891]

You guys are awesome. I can't express how much I enjoy your work. Thank you.

[@rotwang2000]

I admire the dedication !!!

[@john88benson]

Catch Othais and Mae in the hit documentary Danish Krag 2: Locking Lug Bugaloo

[@51WCDodge]

Internet 'Astounded'!!! Or just for the real world,oops! Sorry folks.

[@Snarcksa]

I thought this would be interesting to me because I'm a Dane. It turned out to be interesting because it's a damn good story, told by a wonderfully engaged and knowledgeable host. Kudos to the entire production crew for this wonderful tidbit of Danish/Norwegian small arms history.

[@janwacawik7432]

That's how we can tell that you genuinely care about providing the most accurate information you can. One of the many reasons I've seen every single video on that channel at least once, usually more.

[@JoramTriesGaming]

*Deja vu : I've just been in this place before* Always good to see a new C&Rsenal video, Mk 132 Mod 1 will be watched as if 'twere Mod 0.

[@aussiebloke609]

Mk 132*

[@KarltheKrazyone]

And thus, pleas and supplications are again brought forth to the insane machine god only known to the masses as "Al'gr-ythm". Though there are many factions and schisms among the tribes who live under its shadow, they all must acknowledge that regardless of what they call it, some greater power controls the harvest.

[@WeDontTalkAboutJosh]

Engagement for the engagement god, comments for the comment throne.

[@ZGryphon]

Praise be to the Omnissiah.

[@theallamericanmarine]

Finally finished binge watch all of the episodes, loved every minute of it. It's so fun to listen to history. Good job.

[@davidhansen5067]

Always glad to see these notifications come up, even when they're for corrections.

[@frederikhberg1308]

Hallo from Denmark, I'm 26 years old and that makes my grandpa and great grandpa soldiers in the time when we used the Danish 1889 Krag Jørgensen rifle. I own my great grandpa's original military photo from 1906 and they all stand with their Krags, so that is the one without the safety added. My grandpa used it from 1949-1950, so long service history. Thankyou for all the great vidoes, I watch almost all of them because post war late 1800s to ww1 is my favorit period in arms history and war history. Keep up the great work guys! you are awesome :D

[@troelsmogensen7259]

Having Midsommervisen play in the background while May was shooting was a classy touch.

[@jakobmax3299]

A very classy apology for the butchering of "Madsen" and "Rasmussen".

[@BigVanillaBlast]

Fine. I'll watch it twice

[@captmuttonchops]

Comment for engagement

[@BigVanillaBlast]

@@captmuttonchops gotta do what you gotta do

[@masonhaggerty186]

Glad to see the Danish Krag getting appreciation. I'm ready for the Norwegian Krag episode soon. I own an 1894 & 1912 pattern Norwegian Krags.

[@wonderoushistoryofclassicf9193]

Lucky man

[@impliedtomato8760]

Always happy to see another C&Rsenal upload! Always happy to watch another C&Rsenal upload with improvements!

[@matthewhunter6851]

This is why ya'll are so awesome. Trying to present to us the most accurate and comprehensive information.

[@eric21881]

I’m gonna try to remember to comment every time I watch an episode cause I watch them all a fair bit Really just fell in love with this channel

[@Candrsenal]

Glad you're enjoying it!

[@eric21881]

@@Candrsenal the ultimate sleeper channel for me. I wasnt ready for how much i love it. It seemed at first to be longer and more detailed than i cared for but its exactly what hooked me. The show is so excellently balanced and produced. It caught my interest for the things, particular firearms but the real fun is getting a better understanding of mindsets attidutes and cultural development behind the development advances in technology and how that really just kept changing things so quickly and dramatically. I'm learning about a lot more than the firearms. I can go on and on about how much i really appreciate the show. its more like a digital museum than a show. and i watch them all out of order

[@andik.4235]

Sometimes I start to late to watch an episode and have to watch it twice, because I fall asleep. Not your fault. I always watch it with open eyes till the end on the next day. And often, I watch it at that seconde time from the beginning, because I love that stuff and there is usually so much background information, it is no fault to watch it twice. So, this episode will get it`s thrid watch from me. Keep up your awsome work.

[@BobcatSchneidermann]

>Knows from my patreon update that this is a minor correction >Clicks play anyway >Lets it play in the background muted so they can get their view

[@kregchrist2826]

thank you for putting out informative content and being one of the best shows on the interwebs

[@jakobmax3299]

The danes adopting a metallic cartridge rifle in 1868 just screams "We got badly beating in a war in part because we still used muzzle loading riffled muskets while our enemy was using dreyse guns".

[@bwvideo0905]

Love you guys. Engaging the YT algorithm. I hope. Keep up the good work.

[@Ishmaille]

I have an American Krag-Jørgensen carbine that I inherited from my dad, who apparently bought it because he just had to have the model of gun that Teddy Roosevelt fought with on San Juan Hill. It's a really slick gun that I would definitely take to the range more often, if it weren't somewhat valuable. Anyway, it's cool to see the Danish version.

[@rommulasforthewin]

I know I'm late but I've watch this show from the early days and well done always entering end informative thank you.

[@smackarel7]

The Krag-Jorgenson rifle's are fascinating to me and thet are ones I would consider collecting. Thank you for your hard work.

[@peteranderson037]

Hopefully the re-upload doesn't hurt your metrics too bad.

[@Candrsenal]

There is some good and bad. The worst of it is that we lose the "wave" aspect of the algo. Better to be principled than to be popular though.

[@peteranderson037]

@@Candrsenal I get what you're saying but forgetting the second locking lug doesn't exactly make you Logan Paul.

[@genericpersonx333]

Well, I repeat myself then: does anyone else hope we will get a Berdan episode before the year is out?

[@joachimb9305]

Generic Person X You mean the primer caps for dual holes? Much easier with the boxers.

[@genericpersonx333]

@@joachimb9305 I am more interested in the story of his rifle, which of course would include quite a few details on the ammunition and its primer since that was part of the package he was selling. I find the most all the blackpowder big bores, and their frequent use in WW1, oddly intriguing.

[@joachimb9305]

@@genericpersonx333 Ah, the rifle ofcourse! But yes I agree that it’s fascinating with the use of black powder rifles in ww1. Black powder rifles seem so ancient, while at the same time I know that you can get a black powder rifle that’s so old it doesn’t need paperwork - and it is accurate out to nearly 1000m. I wouldn’t want to operate one in ww1 though!

[@FargoFX]

Another great video. 👍 Liked and shared. As a descendent of Norwegian and Swedish immigrants I’m fascinated to learn of the seemingly outsized role the Scandinavian countries played in European and US gun development.

[@quentintin1]

well it generally helps for recognition if your country was a major player in a big war relatively recently

[@Loutral]

23:16 So about this little hole... Maybe I missed it in the video, but i'm curious to know about it.

[@pkt1213]

Great news. I've even gotten some of my non-firearms friends to watch your channel based on history and mechanical engineering.

[@Davemte34108]

Okay now I see the difference both in the explanation and animation. Thank you very much.

[@JohnDBloch]

Hey, I figured I’d finally add my name to the comment pile. I’ve been sending some of your videos to buddies who have been playing hunt showdown, both of which actually don’t live in the US, and both of them can’t wait to visit and go shooting! I only wish I had some of these old firearms to let them shoot!

[@darklorddylan1316]

Yo dog, I'm just here tryna drive the algorithim.

[@Primarch359]

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[@TomSalesJr]

I'll help with that

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[@hidasinichi9308]

feeding the algorithm choo choo

[@joachimb9305]

Engaging end- engagement, Liking comments Writing words

[@tedking6790]

Hey I love you guys sorry I haven’t been consuming your content as often as I used to, my bad guys! Keep it up!

[@Ntmoffi]

Sooooooooo are missing locking lugs the only way that we're going to get an upload at a reasonable hour? 🤔😂

[@Frank-bc8gg]

Normally I get peices of a rifle embedded into my person when that happens.

[@joemontgomery6658]

I know it’s time to go to sleep when c&r uploads

[@betaich]

Reasonable? Depends where you are in the world. Here it is 11 at night.

[@tobiaszistler]

@@betaich Aha nochn Deutscher hier :P

[@JubalEarly52]

A gun so good they did the episode twice.

[@jamesbraun7550]

I’m a Patreon subscriber and truly appreciate your work. I will start commenting to help your algorithm.

[@oldcomputer4470]

Thank you both for such a though presentation on a cool rifle.

[@RubberduckWVU]

If you love history especially military history you must watch this channel

[@caseymuzio7609]

I love deja vu it's like I know what's going to happen

[@christopherdrekr1078]

The Krag loading system does remind me of my mother's purse when i was a child. I'd love one for nostalgia reasons :). Great design also

[@atvdanny2684]

More people need to watch!

[@TheSmokintbird]

Time 32:30 ish... is it just me, or is there a frowny face in the patina to the right of the mag well? lol

[@thomasborgsmidt9801]

My grandfarther was mobilised as a conscript during WW1 and had the Krag-Jørgensen (either the long rifle or the carabine - I was so young when told, that I don't know which: I do remember he had pinched both the short bayonette and the really long sword bayonette. As to recoil: He remembered (and did he remember?) during an exercise shooting blanks. The blanks were normal cartridges with a wooden plug instead of a bullit. Now he saw a hare and wanted to supplement dinner, so he unplugged the wooden plug and put a small stone in there - replugged, and fired at a hare. (Let's say Elmer Fudd?). The recoil was so harsh that he had a sore shoulder for weeks afterwards - remembering 40 years later. Just for Your information.

[@Grace17893]

God you guys are great; love what you guys do together; I get no one is perfect but I love you guys; God bless you brother

[@StefanLunderskovNielsen]

Interesting about the half cock safety and the 1910 upgrade to a real safety. I have a 1907 KJ later modified to .22 by Otterup Geværfabrik. It does not have the 1910 upgrade, which if i understood correctly is a rarety?

[@mattsgrungy]

Normally I hate the "Please like and subscribe" thing but Othias is so charming and they work so hard I'll be damned if I'm not liking and sharing.

[@orianhullinger7999]

I really like that flannel!

[@cannonfodder4376]

Nice to see the Danish Krag's two lugs compared to the American One Lug bolt. Good to see a good error correction. Fantastic work as always.

[@Master...deBater]

Do you own an American Krag? My US 98 built in 1899 has the second locking lug that butts up tight to the receiver. I have no idea what Othais is talking about!

[@cannonfodder4376]

@@Master...deBater Don't have a Krag so I wouldn't know.

[@Master...deBater]

My 1899 model 98 Krag's second locking lug butts up tight to the receiver...not sure where you're getting your information!!!

[@thomasborgsmidt9801]

The song is: Midsommervisen with score of Lange-Müller and lyrics by Holger Drachmann; but the interesting part is that I think the vocalist is Aksel Schiøtz - about the prettiest tenor voices in Denmark - ever. Probably the 1941 recording as he has a slight vibrato - indicating somewhat later in his carrier? But that is just my lousy ear........

[@andneekey]

another great vid, keep up the good work

[@sparkey6746]

Great episode

[@PoindexterTactical]

I hadn't looked at the Danish Krags much, just the US ones. It's good to learn about their origins.

[@vks_productions]

What was the song played during the firing segment? It was lovely

[@garypaulstratton]

Great work as always.

[@MansMan42069]

Was this before or after the gewehr 71 experimental horseshoe magazine?

[@ashleymesser6792]

Nice job guys.

[@PaulMooneyOutdoors]

Thanks for the great content

[@stewartmungo3971]

Great show

[@JohnnyLouisXIX]

I have a question, why does Mae never cycle the bolt while shooting with the rifle at the shoulder instead of the hip?

[@KarltheKrazyone]

They have mentioned in the past that it has to do with how long she stands there to film the segments (they batch shoot several guns) and they don't want to risk poor footage when they may only have a few spare rounds. Mae is also checking the spent cases to ensure that they are not having a problem with the gun (they have had problems arise in the past) It also keeps the footage and process consistent, so that comparisons are easier. Other channels like BritishMuzzleLoaders go more in depth into the "drill" or doctrine of the times, but that takes a lot more research, and there has to be some limits to the scope of the project, or nothing would ever get done. So, lots of reasons, but overall, it seems like consistency is the main goal.

[@Davemte34108]

That has been answered by them before. These are not in most cases their guns and the ammo is mostly hand made or modified. She needs to make sure of proper extraction and feeding. As she has said this is not target shooting, but a demonstration.

[@JohnnyLouisXIX]

Thank you.

[@maewinchester2030]

Damn, here I came to reply but ya'll are already on it. Longest time standing in one position without lifting my feet is currently 45 minutes. I do not hope to beat that cause my feet go numb after 25 minutes, lol

[@billb7046]

Great series

[@fdmackey3666]

If you know what to look for/know what you are looking at you'll notice that Sgt. Shultz of "Hogan's Heroes" fame carried a Krag-Jorgensen throughout the 1960s TV series.

[@scottieb6876]

Thanks keep up the great work

[@8mmmauserman]

love the video. Thanks!

[@wonderoushistoryofclassicf9193]

I don't know why but I love these guns

[@tap9095]

It is great that some people still care about correcting mistakes and removing fiction even if that comes at some cost. You are probably going to see a lot less watch time and engagement from the reupload, and The Algorithm probably won't look to kindly on you.

[@jeffbangle4710]

People who watch Marvel movies eagerly wait to see the extra scene during or after the credits, but not all Marvel movies have such scenes. People who watch C&R videos eagerly wait to see the "War Were Declared" scene, but...

[@Nic_odd]

11:31 Same nose cap like Swedish 1867/89 military rolling block.

[@stephenhills9347]

Another great Episode! If you are on the fence on giving this one a no based on slow loading, would you revisit your soft yes on the Lebel? This seems pretty superior in every way to me. All of the downsides are even worse in the Lebel.

[@ThatManitobaGuy]

I was wondering about the second locking lug, much appreciated!

[@Master...deBater]

Do you own an American Krag? My US 98 built in 1899 has the second locking lug that butts up tight to the receiver. I have no idea what Othais is talking about!

[@Master...deBater]

Do you own an American Krag? My US 98 built in 1899 has the second locking lug that butts up tight to the receiver. I have no idea what Othais is talking about!

[@nicholasskific4795]

What would a 10 round capsule mag look like?

[@lemonyade]

Forgotten Weapons has a video of a German 10 round Mauser 71 conversion, called "Gewehr 71 with Experimental Magazine".

[@nicholasskific4795]

@@lemonyade thanks man

[@turbo-yu6eg]

Looking forward to the unloading podcast that gives the behind the scenes pandemonium that must have been happening when the error was realized after publishing.

[@maewinchester2030]

Lol we were just discussing what to go over on the podcast yesterday too and then that happened

[@geralddrake3002]

always nice to see another video even if it's a correction.

[@myramadd6651]

was also sgt schultz'z rifle on hogans heroes

[@BobcatSchneidermann]

Quick question: At what point is the correction?

[@maewinchester2030]

Check the pinned comment for timestamps. Edit: huh, somehow it was unpinned. My bad, I repinned it, check it now.

[@TheMwarrior50]

Are you guys gonna do an episode on the US Krag carbines by chance?

[@colemanmoore9871]

Have you met my friend? His name is Albert Gough Rhythm. He goes by Al, and can be a fickle man.

[@avanticurecanti9998]

I've seen other research that, based on loadings offered by Norma, the bullet shouldn't be exceeding 2100fps. Any thoughts, Othias?

[@amerigo88]

The Rube Goldberg loading arrangement that doesn't lend itself to chargers and looks really expensive to manufacture seems appropriate only for a small, wealthy nation (Denmark, Sweden, Switzerland) or one with a small army and the potential for big spending (United States). It was a transitional design moving from the Kropatschek style tube/chain detonation magazine toward the eventual Mauser style. The Krag-Jorgensen line was a dead end and the United States wisely dumped it for a pair of Mausers - the Springfield 1903 and Enfield M1917. One issue I was surprised was not mentioned is the tendency of the bolts without paired locking lugs, offset evenly, to "stretch" over time, leading to increasing inaccuracy as the rounds fired accumulate and the metal in the bolt distorts. guide.sportsmansguide.com/tips/spomer-shooting-rear-locking-lugs-explained/

[@903lew]

Correct. However, Sweden was at the time extremely poor (thus; Minnesota) and wisely chose the Mauser.

[@Jet2416-Reloading]

You know better than I do but I don't know of any other rifle, that doesn't use a changeable box magazine, that you can reload with a round in the chamber and bolt closed than the Krags. They may not be my first choice to go into battle with if I could choose but they were unique and innovative for the time.

[@necrontyr5258]

TYVM for the video!

[@mikespangler98]

If the rifle is 52 inches, how tall is Mae?

[@erzherzogalbrecht8504]

Fun fact, sgt. Schulz from Hogans Heros usualy carrys a Krag-Jørgensen rifle (standing in for a Mauser rifle)

[@giovannicorbarigasparini5352]

Shouldn't it be Episode 132* ?

Thank you from this humble dane for covering this Danish rifle. And nice touch using "Midsommervisen" as soundtrack for the shooting segment. And you at least tried with the pronounciation, and almost succeding "Amager" is more like "Ah-mahr", the G is silent!

[@kkloikok]

Rewatching bc I'm curious how othias is gonna do the correction

[@tee_es_bee]

What is engagement really?

[@Octopussyist]

If you are confused by the name "Christiania" it does NOT refer to the part of Copenhagen that has been populated by squatters since the 1970es, but the city now known as "Oslo".

[@davidkatz1503]

Looks like lightning strikes twice sometimes!

[@Shelmerdine745]

It would be used rested from their fortifications, typically.

[@ryanthorne5432]

Still great the second time around.

[@MJMJ27]

Can we please get to WW2?

[@borkwoof696]

Nah

[@niklasaskham4208]

Repost?

[@ernestorafaeldiaz8374]

*all of a sudden you've gotten all the redditors in the world seeing if this is a repost or not*

[@Huy-G-Le]

The Danish Krag were outdated. It has a side loader but user have to hold it sideways, open that hatch, put individual cartridges in and then close the thing. Sure, the capable to drops each round in without the need to press them down are nice, but if you also need to hold it sideways...it just take time.

[@crablegs21]

Does C&Rsenal have a discord chat?

[@maewinchester2030]

Yup! The link is at the bottom of our website candrsenal.com

[@thralldumehammer]

He'll I don't mind, love watching these anyways❤👏

[@Kyks2244]

im late to the video, going to carbines after. Good Video Thanks !

[@marekkula2510]

1889/10 looks like a snapshot of evolution. Like one unique fossil for bolt action magazine fed rifle. Not a mighty T-Rex (muser, sprigfield 1903 - pick your favourite ), but some smaller and less know species.

[@sbirddesmo]

I was so confused until I read the comments. I want a Krag.

[@patrickaherne3598]

Adding a comment because KRAG! And the algorithm. Plus, who doesn't like Remington Rolling blocks?

[@thetacticaltusken]

Evidently the Danes wanted the RRB’s replacement for one reason or another

[@soshojuku]

Olé! Engagement achieved.