8x58r for the Danish Krag

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@accountant377
@accountant377 10 ай бұрын
I can’t tell you how much happiness you bring when a new video of yours drops. I’m going to attempt a rifle hand guard on a 1922 Brazilian rifle with your videos as a guide. Thanks man
@tal1296
@tal1296 10 ай бұрын
You had us in one case conversion and you still made two, Love your videos!
@DEARERFOB771
@DEARERFOB771 10 ай бұрын
You make some of the best videos btw they are so calming and well done
@paulvenn4447
@paulvenn4447 10 ай бұрын
I love this kind of content, keep up the good work mate.
@mikerogers582
@mikerogers582 10 ай бұрын
The Swedish rollers in 8x58 are fine with modern loads. The Swedes case hardened the BP receivers to strengthen them for smokeless propellant.
@rakumprojects
@rakumprojects 10 ай бұрын
They did re-harden the receiver during the conversion process, but it's still debatable if full power loads can be used with them.
@mikerogers582
@mikerogers582 10 ай бұрын
They were strengthened to withstand the Swedish service load. The original service load is the benchmark. I load mine to 2000fps, & of course, the old girl isn't fire much. I have had no problems.
@cordelllush8133
@cordelllush8133 10 ай бұрын
this is perfect, I'm very glad to see this video and it'll be a huge help when I'm able to make rounds for my rolling block
@ThePizzaGoblin
@ThePizzaGoblin 10 ай бұрын
The magazine of the Krag is so cool
@richardsims1805
@richardsims1805 4 ай бұрын
Excellent piece of reloading engineering. Keep up the great work!
@rhettbrown8234
@rhettbrown8234 9 ай бұрын
Whow love your plain no bullshyte commentary. Have learned woohoo much from your vids. Thanks from new zealand.
@nealbullington8301
@nealbullington8301 10 ай бұрын
Am I having a senior moment, or did you once have a video on reloading the 8x52R Siamese (not the 8x50r)? If so I can't find it now.
@rakumprojects
@rakumprojects 10 ай бұрын
I have an old one here kzbin.info/www/bejne/sJK0gnSPnt6lmMU
@colint
@colint 10 ай бұрын
That big of a resize would be easier if you did multiple annealing steps as well as multiple passes through the die.
@dougsmith548
@dougsmith548 10 ай бұрын
A fantastic video. Your voice is very calming. I’m glad I found out you. I have become your newest subscriber. Stay safe and God bless.✌️🇨🇦
@zero-waste
@zero-waste 6 ай бұрын
In the 1980'ties I had app. 3700 pcs. original loaded Danish 8x58R cartridges, but no gun. I sold those cartridges in one lot, for US$ 0.40/pc.
@rre9121
@rre9121 10 ай бұрын
>he used imperial sizing wax the whole time Really you should switch over to metric sizing wax half through to make sure it goes to 8mm properly.
@floridagunrat1625
@floridagunrat1625 10 ай бұрын
You're right, he actually made 323 by 58 R cartridges!
@will7its
@will7its 10 ай бұрын
WoW what a great video. I need to make some 8x58 rd brass for my roller. You're a pro....
@allanrichards3752
@allanrichards3752 10 ай бұрын
A great video. I am surprised at how much you could change the shape of the cartridge without it deforming completely. I would think that once you have fired the cartridges a couple of times they will shape even better to your rifle so that blow by will be reduced
@gravebructer4881
@gravebructer4881 4 ай бұрын
i love at the range section being able to hear the ping of someones m1 garand XD
@joelopezjl28
@joelopezjl28 10 ай бұрын
Have you tried using 8x56r?
@rakumprojects
@rakumprojects 10 ай бұрын
I haven't but it's possible. I have a few pieces and the base diameter is a bit small. I'm not sure about their longevity.
@joelopezjl28
@joelopezjl28 10 ай бұрын
@@rakumprojects would be neet if you tried 5rds and give an update
@krockpotbroccoli65
@krockpotbroccoli65 10 ай бұрын
7.62x54r? Just spitballing.
@brandonkaddatz807
@brandonkaddatz807 10 ай бұрын
Thank god for you.
@TheRedneckPreppy
@TheRedneckPreppy 10 ай бұрын
Surprised you didn't try 8x56mm Mannlicher Schoenauer brass. Used them myself for this round and they worked well enough.
@rakumprojects
@rakumprojects 10 ай бұрын
I only have a couple pieces of brass. The base diameter is a bit smaller than 45-70 so I'm worried they may crack.
@TheRedneckPreppy
@TheRedneckPreppy 10 ай бұрын
@@rakumprojects Well, I'm going to be honest enough to admit that I didn't fire my Husqvarna Rolling Block enough to seriously stress the 8x56MS brass to find out, so you could be justified with that concern. Each piece I used went two or so firings without issue but I was working with a relatively small sample size.
@Haroldmogerson
@Haroldmogerson 10 ай бұрын
Hey man if you have a martini Henry or ever get one could you perhaps make a Morrison tube along with some .297 Morrison short
@richardk6695
@richardk6695 10 ай бұрын
I won't lie id be confused asf if i found your brass at the range expecally the 45-70
@WasatchGarandMan
@WasatchGarandMan 10 ай бұрын
Im not sure if they changed it again but be careful. YT sucks and bans reloading vids
@RapTapTap69
@RapTapTap69 10 ай бұрын
God forbid someone make educational content instead of abusing their kids for content. Leave it to yt to have their priorities skewed
@WasatchGarandMan
@WasatchGarandMan 10 ай бұрын
@@RapTapTap69 For real, Their guidelines are WACK
@paranoiia8
@paranoiia8 10 ай бұрын
Some say they shadow ban reloading and some gun videos by not posting them in search/main and sometimes not even showing them in subscribers feed. No idea if it's true or it's just typical bugs in YT
@ExplizitDuester
@ExplizitDuester 10 ай бұрын
@@paranoiia8I doubt it, I'm not even subscribed an YT recommended the video to me
@OldSmokey1953
@OldSmokey1953 10 ай бұрын
Good video. Bertram Brass in Australia still make 8 x58RD cases, expensive though. As you've said, annealing is vital before forming. 45-90 is good for length, the rims need to be reduced in diameter a little, same as 45-70 .45 basic brass is ideal. I have also re-sized and then fireformed 8 x 56R Hungarian cases from PPU, they are a little short, but they work well enough. You're advice on not using the data from Cartridges of the World is absolutely correct, they are far too 'hot', as is your advice on the load for the Swedish Rolling block, which is much softer than for the Krag.
@mikerogers582
@mikerogers582 10 ай бұрын
The Swedish rollers have case hardened receivers This was done to accommodate the Danish loads. I load 170gr bullets to 2000fps.
@philipfreeman72
@philipfreeman72 10 ай бұрын
How different is 8 X 57 cases ? There is a book called cartrage conversions . The 45-70 is a low pressure gun .
@rakumprojects
@rakumprojects 10 ай бұрын
8x57 Mauser is totally different. Different dimensions and no rim.
@simo1355
@simo1355 10 ай бұрын
could i use these cases to make 8x56r
@alanrandall3024
@alanrandall3024 6 ай бұрын
Did you remove the expander ball from the die while you were resizing it?
@rakumprojects
@rakumprojects 6 ай бұрын
I did when reforming the 300 win mag cases. It's a good habit to get into when sizing in small increments in order to not over work the brass.
@alanrandall3024
@alanrandall3024 6 ай бұрын
@@rakumprojects But not when you were doing the 45-70?
@rakumprojects
@rakumprojects 6 ай бұрын
@@alanrandall3024 I probably should have, but since it's an easier conversation it's not completely necessary.
@alanrandall3024
@alanrandall3024 6 ай бұрын
@@rakumprojects I figured since the 8mm expander is way smaller than the 45-70 it would not really need to be removed.
@alancarr3381
@alancarr3381 10 ай бұрын
Thanks for the video!
@Bibo_Libo
@Bibo_Libo 10 ай бұрын
ANOTHER RAKUM PROJECTS VIDEO LETS GOOOO!!!
@joemiller9632
@joemiller9632 4 күн бұрын
cool great info enjoyed this learning video
@mikerogers582
@mikerogers582 10 ай бұрын
Bertram's make brass for this calibre. I purchased from him. 😊
@rgbgamingfridge
@rgbgamingfridge 10 ай бұрын
is this 8x58rd but smokeless?
@philipfreeman72
@philipfreeman72 10 ай бұрын
I like the long neck on 8X58
@moosesmachinery
@moosesmachinery 10 ай бұрын
Rakum, are you based in the USA? If you need assistance machining parts id be interested in partnering up with you for content. Ps you make want a 6 jaw or collet chuck for turning cases so you are less likely to crush them.
@rakumprojects
@rakumprojects 10 ай бұрын
I'm in the US. I just bought a milling machine so I hope to expand my capacities soon. How do collet chucks work with rimmed or tapered cases? I've been meaning to buy a set of ER32 collets.
@moosesmachinery
@moosesmachinery 10 ай бұрын
@@rakumprojects you can bore a 5c emergency collet to hold each case or make a diy reamer fairly easily. But it would have to be a spiral one to work with the gaps from each leaf.
@michaeljoyce3153
@michaeljoyce3153 6 ай бұрын
Using blackpowder 45-70 brass would solve the blow-by issues as the walls of the brass are ever so slightly thinner. Haven't looked for it in a few years so i dont know if they're even made anymore. I dont see why not but you know the China pandemic hit and all.
@horn410
@horn410 10 ай бұрын
9,3*74R должен подойти для передела
@williamspurgeon3803
@williamspurgeon3803 10 ай бұрын
I use 303 British brass for this
@rakumprojects
@rakumprojects 10 ай бұрын
For 8x58r or 30-40? 303 is dangerously undersized for 8x58r but it can be converted to 30-40 Krag.
@pcmacd
@pcmacd 10 ай бұрын
45-90 brass works quite well. Use a LEE shell holder as the process will destroy multiple RCBS holders. Ask me how I know? You can adjust the rim dia in a drill press w/file. No need to pussy foot around with multiple strokes - do it in one pass. I did a hundert and din't lose a case. Use Tempilaq indicator to tell you when to take the torch off of the brass, then drop it IMMEDIATELY into a pan of water. This is important.
@Tammy-un3ql
@Tammy-un3ql 10 ай бұрын
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