History Primer 166: Scandinavian Nagants Documentary

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[@LadyAnuB]

Othais, Mae, and other C&Rsenal viewers, In the church scene in the first act of 'The Harder They Fall,' Nat Love is shown removing the spent casings from his revolver using an ejector rod. I didn't catch this upon first viewing but did in my second and I owe this to the revolver episodes of the Primer series. Mae's shot pattern with the Swedish Nagant looks like a leaning Christmas tree.

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[@brittakriep2938]

Some notes: A longer time ago, in a german arms magazine i read , that swedish revolver was used up to 1950s, may be early 1960s. According to those article, last users had been postal service and lighthouse service, some few guns had been changed for use of 7,65/.32 ACP, which was from 1920s to 1980s a common cartridge. In german language countries the word ,Landsturm' was also known, and in Switzerland used up to 1990s. In 19th/early 20th century this Landsturm was used for the units formed of properly trained, but elderly reserve soldiers. When wwl started, the Landsturm units had been not intended for full frontline service, only fighting enemy breakthroughs, their job was doing military work in rearline, away from front, which is underrated, but very important. As longer wwl lasted, also untrsined men came to army and got shortened military training, the older ones came to Landsturm, also men of younger age , when not realy fit for frontline service ( after accidents, war injuries or with health problems etc.) In 17th/ 18th centuries Germany, the armies consisted of professional soldiers, but there hat been still relicts of medieval/ tribal age levies (Aufgebote). In few cases not so well trained and equiped, but usefull militias, sometimes a mix of target shooters society, tradition keepers and police, but mostly units, badly trained and with dated weaponry. Such units could be used as guards, escorts, armed workers, may be to man field fortifications to defend a narrow valley. Landsturm is used as umbrella term for such low quality levies of 17th/ 18th century.

[@stefanspett7790]

They were used for training police dogs until the 80-ties. So i have heard.

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@@stefanspett7790 : German policemen in former Britisch Ocupied Zone used for some time Enfield .380 revolvers, last ones had been used in late 60s, for training police dogs and horses.

[@newnxntiny8535]

According to Göta Vapenhistoriska sällskap, they were used in the 50s by Verkskyddet, a paramilitary put up to secure and guard among other things, power plants, railways, bridges, telegraph stations and so forth.

[@SlavicCelery]

.32 ACP makes a ton of sense in that instance. A super common police type caliber in many European countries for a long time. Also, a huge amount of pocket pistols were made in that caliber, so ammo had to be reasonably available and cheap. Semi-rimmed, so you don't need to use moon clips.

[@brittakriep2938]

@@newnxntiny8535 : In Germany the word ,Werkschutz' is known for private security branch of Industrial companies. Formerly every large company had its own security personal, in smaller companies often only a single nightwatchman.

[@arturocavendish6859]

I quite like the design of this era of revolvers, a very efficient look.

[@nathanbrown8680]

I was sure the "big" difference between the Swedish and Norwegian Nagants was going to be that they had screw heads sized for different coins.

[@stefanspett7790]

Good thinking but at that time Sweden, Norway and Denmark had unified coinage, in terms of size and metal. It ended 1914.

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This was a great episode covering two countries that there side arms, beyond the 1914 Norwegian and modern firearms, are not talked about much in English language books and such.

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[@Helltanz98]

This is actually the episode I've been waiting for a while. My grandfather's general store apparently had some swedish (so I was told, they could have been norwegian) nagants come in the eighties apparently who knows, but I've always been interested in details about them. Apparently one was in 9x20 Browning so maybe they were

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uhhh, the russian nagants kind of because of the gas seal, but that is a different gun than any on this video, and really the gas seal mechanism is pointless and just makes it more prone to breakdowns. idk why the russians thought a gas seal was worthy of a service revolver. overhyped because "neat" like many a gun

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[@jonathanhudak2059]

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43:25 Could the crown-over-N just stand for Norge/Norway? The distinction of having the crown, where the others didn't, makes me question whether it's merely an inspector's initial.

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[@88porpoise]

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[@fg42t2]

I Had in the 1980s a Swedish Nagant pistol and holster both marked with three crowns. I had sleeved barrel and cylinder to 22 long rifle all off set so the rims line up with the center fire hammer. It was a gorgeous rig. Ioved it-till I shot it. The cases fired or not, worked back after the first shot hitting the frame stoping it from turning. I sold it after informing the buyer that it did not shoot. I'll bet he still has that nice looking rig.

[@Lomi311]

The lock work is blissfully simple. Funny the one Nagant revolver everyone knows is known for being ruined by unnecessary mechanical complication.

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[@Mikkemeister]

I did look and finger one 22 years ago before I bought my first 686. But as I intended to use my revolver, and a lot, so buying something that would be a pain to feed wasn't an option. Still would love to have one as a collector/curio piece, but I'm not going to go through the bother here in Sweden.

[@michaelsliwowski5076]

The last Belgian Negants were actually Polish. The new post WW1 Polish state out of financial desperation bout the now old Belgian production line and shipped it to Poland and I understand 20.000 were made and used by Police. As what caliber they were in I do not know.

[@philipdepalma4672]

The Norwegian front sight reminds me of the front sight on old H&R revolvers

[@whatTheFup]

Scandinavian Nagants, aka HInga Dinga Durgen Nagants :D I wasnt aware we scandinavians had Nagants

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[@MakooWallinen]

As a Swedish person, seeing the original text, would be great. I'm just going to guess the word was "nätt"? I would assume, if this was the case, it was meant as "compact and neat/proper".

[@Re-Booter]

High quality historic content as always, as a Norwegian that has seen Norwegian Nagant in the wild in Norway "unregistered" after WWII. I like them better than the Russian ones, the triggers on those have an excruciating heavy trigger due to the gas seal system.

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"Where's he going with this? I don't know, I'm scared." You and me both, Mae. You and me both.

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Primer 003 is from July 2015, so considering that there's two redone episodes that used to be before that we're just shy of 6 1/2 years of C&Rsenal. Gonna have to give us at least 6 months worth of curious ol' gats before you're allowed to toss in the towel. ... Also as someone with anxiety, I'm fine remembering that I want to see a modern materials Nagant-lockwork revolver with a swing-out cylinder more than whatever childhood memory still gives me second-hand embarrassment.

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For some reason we have a lot of 1895 Soviet Nagants... and weirdly not many got in to our arsenals but just to the grunts. 😆

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