Texas Ranger vs. Comanche Warriors : Jack Hays and The Legendary Fight At Enchanted Rock

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@5h0rgunn45
@5h0rgunn45 Жыл бұрын
What always impresses me about stories from Western history is how intensely personal it all is. In Eurasia, wars were fought between armies numbering in the tens or hundreds of thousands. In the Wild West, and especially on the plains, warfare was most often a scrap between no more than a few dozen individuals.
@perryhaynes7911
@perryhaynes7911 Жыл бұрын
8i8
@mikejohnson479
@mikejohnson479 Жыл бұрын
Very often, the numbers were in the hundreds and even the low thousands. Many native tribes fought each other constantly. There are many instances. One example. The Massacre Canyon battle took place in Nebraska on August 5, 1873 near the Republican River. It was one of the last hostilities between the Pawnee and the Sioux (or Lakota) and the last battle/massacre between Great Plains Indians in North America.[2] The massacre occurred when a large Oglala/Brulé Sioux war party of over 1,500 warriors led by Two Strike, Little Wound, and Spotted Tail attacked a band of Pawnee during their summer buffalo hunt. In the ensuing rout, more than 150 Pawnees were killed. The victims, who were mostly women and children, suffered mutilation, and some were set on fire.
@5h0rgunn45
@5h0rgunn45 Жыл бұрын
@@mikejohnson479 This is true. The part that strikes me is that a few hundred people being massacred would be completely insignificant in Eurasia, but in the Americas it's huge. Stories on a very small scale carry a lot of weight in the Wild West.
@mikejohnson479
@mikejohnson479 Жыл бұрын
@5h0rgunn I completely agree with that. Many tribes lived on the edge of oblivion, even without conflict with settlers. The difficulty of native life and the often endless warfare kept populations low. Tribes would often adopt people, often kidnapped, from other tribes, Mexicans, or European colonists into the tribe to help bolster numbers.
@ferengiprofiteer9145
@ferengiprofiteer9145 Жыл бұрын
@@mikejohnson479 Fine line between adopt and enslave.
@thomasgumersell9607
@thomasgumersell9607 Жыл бұрын
I found this historical account to be fascinating. The fact Jack received a gift of a golden spoon. In the mail upon his sons birth. Sent by a Chief of the tribe he fought. That truly shows the respect between true warriors. 💪🏻🙏🏻✨
@thechiefwildhorse4651
@thechiefwildhorse4651 Жыл бұрын
This is a complete made up fabrication. Please come to the Comanche Nation Complex in Lawton Oklahoma to hear some real history -COMANCHE NATION
@thomasgumersell9607
@thomasgumersell9607 Жыл бұрын
@@thechiefwildhorse4651 thank you for the clarification. 💪🏻🙏🏻✨
@robertmillen2967
@robertmillen2967 Жыл бұрын
Totally awesome (gold spoon)
@burneyvisser
@burneyvisser Жыл бұрын
Was the respect returned?
@MrLaz0rz
@MrLaz0rz Жыл бұрын
You cant, not respect men you fight against. if you dont you are killed.
@blroye-le5ob
@blroye-le5ob Жыл бұрын
Enjoyed the history lesson on the Comanches and Jack Hayes. I was born and raised in Texas and have hiked on Enchanted Rock, I need to correct one portion of your story. Enchanted rock is granite, not sandstone. Specifically pink granite...the same variety that was used to construct our Texas State capitol building in 1888. The granite was not taken from Enchanted Rock to build the state capital, but was donated by the owners of Granite Mountain near Marble Falls.
@tct84
@tct84 Жыл бұрын
As a native Austinite I appreciate you correcting it, other than this it was an excellent video. To this day Hays County is a holdout of southwestern Freedom. I am one county over in Bastrop County and it’s seemingly falling to the Californication of Austin :/
@kylewayne1098
@kylewayne1098 Жыл бұрын
33 likes… 😅
@SpeedRacer-pz9jn
@SpeedRacer-pz9jn Жыл бұрын
Not to mention, that granite pluton contains thousands of tons of Garnet. And the creek has gold dust. Just don't mine any in the park lol
@bassmangotdbluz3547
@bassmangotdbluz3547 Жыл бұрын
That Pink Granite is unique to the Marble Falls area and one specific quarry. Gorgeous stuff.
@TXLorenzo
@TXLorenzo Жыл бұрын
@@tct84 North Hays County might as well be California.
@JesterLxxix
@JesterLxxix Жыл бұрын
As a Lakota, I have mad respect for the Comanche and Texas Rangers. Old west legends by their right.
@historyattheokcorral
@historyattheokcorral Жыл бұрын
Mad respect to the Lakota as well.
@jackhays1194
@jackhays1194 Жыл бұрын
Comanches were some bad boys. Much respect.
@AnthonyNelms-nh8ko
@AnthonyNelms-nh8ko 2 ай бұрын
Well as a European that descended from tough as nails Texas rangers.... I don't respect the tribes. Especially comanchees. They were brutal and intensely warlike. They tortured small babies and animals and whoever they caught as POW. They did not respect nature whatsoever. Whatever noble savage myth you believe in just know it was concocted by Disney
@RTFLDGR
@RTFLDGR Жыл бұрын
Buffalo Hump bestowed upon Hays the greatest compliment. He acknowledged the greatness of his son. Honors to both men.
@thechiefwildhorse4651
@thechiefwildhorse4651 Жыл бұрын
It's complete nonsense. -COMANCHE NATION
@alaneskew2664
@alaneskew2664 Жыл бұрын
​@@thechiefwildhorse4651 oh yes, respect/friendship is totally unheard-of between enemies 🙄
@Thr33-Quarters
@Thr33-Quarters 3 ай бұрын
​@@thechiefwildhorse4651 Look at how disliked you are... Maybe take a hint? 😂
@thechiefwildhorse4651
@thechiefwildhorse4651 3 ай бұрын
@@Thr33-Quarters You Europeans hate Indigenous PEOPLE it seems -COMANCHE NATION
@zachariah1991
@zachariah1991 Жыл бұрын
The seemingly lost history of America and the Western Frontier that you capture and convey through your channel is incredible 💯
@historyattheokcorral
@historyattheokcorral Жыл бұрын
Thank you very much!
@Astro_touches_children
@Astro_touches_children Жыл бұрын
@@historyattheokcorral No, THANK YOU
@daletreadwell1914
@daletreadwell1914 Жыл бұрын
@@Astro_touches_children poo
@thechiefwildhorse4651
@thechiefwildhorse4651 Жыл бұрын
@@historyattheokcorral Why don't you tell some Real History like the Massacre of 60k Comanche Women And Children in A Mass Grave At Fort Sill Oklahoma Still today??? -COMANCHE NATION
@adidog6243
@adidog6243 Жыл бұрын
Well done H.O.K.C. I'm Australian, and first came to enjoy frontier history through the novels of Larry McMurtry. But to the question: Was Hays an intruder? Yes, but no more than the Comanche at another time. The way I see it, people in general, do what's of benefit to them at the time and it's up to the historians to argue over the rights and wrongs of the actions. It's a pity, so much of modern history is tainted with personal prejudice and an unwillingness to 'walk in another's shoes'. Any 'ow, keep up the good work.
@historyattheokcorral
@historyattheokcorral Жыл бұрын
Hello Australia! Thank you for watching!
@deaddocreallydeaddoc5244
@deaddocreallydeaddoc5244 Жыл бұрын
Actually, traditional historian, such as Edward Gibbon does not judge history but reports it. Lately, biases among historians have harmed the discipline and society.
@jamesgoode2282
@jamesgoode2282 Жыл бұрын
Deaddoc speaks truth.
@daviddawson1718
@daviddawson1718 Жыл бұрын
Larry McMurty has a way around writing that is highly expressive, you can feel his characters, you fell like you know them.
@thechiefwildhorse4651
@thechiefwildhorse4651 Жыл бұрын
We welcome you to the Comanche Nation Complex in Lawton Oklahoma to hear our Real stories and see real Artifacts -COMANCHE NATION
@artisaprimus6306
@artisaprimus6306 Жыл бұрын
Every Texas boy knows the story of the Enchanted Rock fight. I've climbed that rock many times as a boy. It's a beautiful and sacred place.
@jamesgoode2282
@jamesgoode2282 Жыл бұрын
You are correct. Enchanted Rock is a special place.
@theeasternfront6436
@theeasternfront6436 Жыл бұрын
Where did you grow up? Comfort for me.
@artisaprimus6306
@artisaprimus6306 Жыл бұрын
@@theeasternfront6436 I was born in Menard and lived there till I was twelve.
@johnclark1612
@johnclark1612 Жыл бұрын
Played cowboys and indians there as a kid
@artisaprimus6306
@artisaprimus6306 Жыл бұрын
@@johnclark1612 yep, I was always an Indian. We lived in the middle of Texas history. San Saba mission was just outside of town on the river. I once found a 10 gauge shotgun in a field after a rainstorm. The stock was rotted off, so it had to be 100 years old. We would always find arrowheads after rainstorms and places by the river where the Comanches camped. Those grinded out rocks they used to grind corn.
@keithgraham4747
@keithgraham4747 Жыл бұрын
Everything is bigger in Texas and that was one Texas sized rock fight! Hayes is a legend here. On par with Travis & Crockett. I love that most Texas heroes of the time came from elsewhere and helped define what it is to be Texan. Both Hayes & Crockett were born in Tennessee. The Comanches too deserve much respect. Well done.
@pfdrtom
@pfdrtom Жыл бұрын
Read Texas Ranger: Jack Hays On The Frontier by James Greer. Wonderful book. (at least I think that's the title!)
@jimmyhaley727
@jimmyhaley727 Жыл бұрын
All came from the East
@AlexTSilver
@AlexTSilver Жыл бұрын
dude this was a tiny skirmish that wouldn't even make a footnote in any other country's history.
@keithgraham4747
@keithgraham4747 Жыл бұрын
@@AlexTSilver Duuuuuuude. You have a pretty mouth.
@sladeb6036
@sladeb6036 Жыл бұрын
@@AlexTSilver well it's a good thing that we don't give a damn for other countries. Coming from a Texan.
@daleslover2771
@daleslover2771 Жыл бұрын
16:41 "Determine to sell his life to the highest markable price". Can't say it any better. Excellent narration 👍
@tudyk21
@tudyk21 Жыл бұрын
We learned about this fight and the revolver in 7th grade Texas history class.
@craigelliott7286
@craigelliott7286 Жыл бұрын
Men like Jack Hays are what the history of Texas were built upon, terrific story about Ranger Hays..
@thechiefwildhorse4651
@thechiefwildhorse4651 Жыл бұрын
The Numunu are still here and Jack Hays is dead lol -COMANCHE NATION
@tomemery7890
@tomemery7890 Жыл бұрын
​@@thechiefwildhorse4651I'd guess you're a young guy
@thechiefwildhorse4651
@thechiefwildhorse4651 Жыл бұрын
@@tomemery7890 I was probably in Iraq when you were in grade school -COMANCHE NATION
@brianjones7660
@brianjones7660 Жыл бұрын
@@thechiefwildhorse4651 whats a numunu?
@thechiefwildhorse4651
@thechiefwildhorse4651 Жыл бұрын
@@brianjones7660 That's what Comanche call ourselves -COMANCHE NATION
@myes6916
@myes6916 Жыл бұрын
As a Texan I appreciate the Comanche as our constant war with each other hardened us both and as a Texan, help us reinforce the “victory or death” mentality
@Quincy_Morris
@Quincy_Morris 10 ай бұрын
Even now it’s a scary word.
@kurthouse744
@kurthouse744 Жыл бұрын
This is one of the best, historically accurate, colorful and factual videos I have ever seen, and we make them! The narration was absolutely beautiful and the scenes, Texas Ranger photos, Catlin and other artist depiction of Indians were well done. Kudos from a Jack Hays fan, from deep in the heart of Texas where Captain Jack hung out: San Antonio.
@lenwenzel7440
@lenwenzel7440 Жыл бұрын
From what I have read from a book written by one of Jack Hays companions Jack was not initially a Texas Ranger. Instead he was a survey party member at a time of overwhelming Comanche incursions and raids. One reason Comanche raids were so frightening was their great speed of archery attacks. Overwhelming the the pitifully slow rate of fire from the guns at the time. Jack discovered the Patterson revolvers that could have multiple preloaded cylinders creating overwhelming firepower that could overwhelm the Comanchies rates of arrow attacks. Once the success of his tactics with his firearm was noted, the men in his surveying company got him to order a lot more Patterson revolvers. They were then so successful fighting Comanche requests for their protection came from all over. They became known as Texas Rangers because they ranged all over Texas. And so badges, and an organization grew. And that is the story I was told.
@daviddigital6887
@daviddigital6887 Жыл бұрын
Which is the same story told here
@stefano9731
@stefano9731 Жыл бұрын
The Texas Rangers always lost untilthere was the advancement in the revolver..once that happened it more than evened things up
@lenwenzel7440
@lenwenzel7440 Жыл бұрын
@@StuartBailey-re4mh That is interesting, I had not heard that. May I ask was there a source book for that info that I might be interested in readying?
@johnboomerboy3042
@johnboomerboy3042 5 ай бұрын
Sounds plausible but unlikely the Rangers were surveyors turn lawmen. More likely, these young tough’s were sent out with a knowledgeable surveyor and received fast and furious OJT.
@lenwenzel7440
@lenwenzel7440 5 ай бұрын
My reading was some time ago, and there were several books involved. One was San Antonio To San Francisco With Texas Ranger Jack Hays by John Nugent. Without re-reading it, I am not entirely sure, but I believe that I drew from that book somewhat in my previous remark.
@Dang3rMouSe
@Dang3rMouSe Жыл бұрын
Great presentation. I had no idea of the historical significance of Enchanted Rock. Decades ago my dad & I drove to Texas & camped out at a number of places, 1 being Enchanted Rock. We figured it must of had some spiritual significance at some point to native tribes of the region simply based on its unusual appearance & name. The place certainly holds a peculiar unique vibe & at night was very eerie.
@elijahhodges4405
@elijahhodges4405 Жыл бұрын
I'd say Captain Jack was a Hero. He was remembered well by the Army too. "Hay, Hay Captain Jack"...
@WyomingTraveler
@WyomingTraveler Жыл бұрын
Jack Hays was a-man to be reckoned with and a western legend. I have hiked up and down and around Enchanted Rock many, many times. At that time I did not know of Hays’ adventure on the rock. Thanks for adding to my Texas knowledge.
@thechiefwildhorse4651
@thechiefwildhorse4651 Жыл бұрын
Jack Hays was a drunk and a liar lol -COMANCHE NATION
@alaneskew2664
@alaneskew2664 Жыл бұрын
​@@thechiefwildhorse4651 you need to rename yourself Chief Talksoutofhisass
@thechiefwildhorse4651
@thechiefwildhorse4651 Жыл бұрын
@@alaneskew2664 Maybe you should come run the Comanche Nation Complex??? -COMANCHE NATION
@rylanrobinson8487
@rylanrobinson8487 Жыл бұрын
@@thechiefwildhorse4651 been there. Nothing but drunk fools living off the government
@robertbertagna1672
@robertbertagna1672 Жыл бұрын
good presentation thank you
@historyattheokcorral
@historyattheokcorral Жыл бұрын
Glad you liked it!
@dewetmaartens359
@dewetmaartens359 Жыл бұрын
The stories of the wild west are very similar to the Boer in South Africa. Great channel, thanks bro
@jamesstepp1925
@jamesstepp1925 Жыл бұрын
I love these stories, mostly because they're true.
@lehmannadventures3439
@lehmannadventures3439 Жыл бұрын
I heard this account was one of the reasons Hays sent Samuel walker to meet Samuel Colt and make a new pistol which would be later called the Colt Walker- it was from this experience at enchanted rock the hays wanted his rangers to have a 6 shot, and larger caliber bullet - “ship them all to the republic of Texas” and it was that order that pulled Colt out of near bankruptcy
@davidbingley6734
@davidbingley6734 5 ай бұрын
Love your narration style. Very down home.
@historyattheokcorral
@historyattheokcorral 5 ай бұрын
Thanks so much!
@markmendoza5825
@markmendoza5825 Жыл бұрын
Had the opportunity back in Fall of '20 to go hike and be immersed in the beauty of this magnificent monolith. Was my sister and I; when I got to the top, I felt on top of the world. And I realized, no wonder the native inhabitants felt such a strong connection to the rock and what magic it had; it's beautiful and if you ever get the opportunity, please go visit and hike. They also have an evening hike where you can see the stars; 1 day I'd love to experience thar for myself. And this story, it's q of my favorite, told my sister this and she never knew it. She asked me, wonder what he was feeling and experiencing in that moment; was he scared? Did he think he'd survive?
@The_ZeroLine
@The_ZeroLine 7 ай бұрын
It’s like a tiny slice of parts the Australian outback.
@mickeyjmoons
@mickeyjmoons Жыл бұрын
When the reasons to fight are gone, the men who fought find kindred spirits in their old adversaries.
@a.m.hatfield9734
@a.m.hatfield9734 Жыл бұрын
Great tale about Texas Ranger Jack Hays. I already was aware of the reputed fierceness and horsemanship of the Comanche warriors. It is gratifying indeed to see that comparable warlike and capable men were found within the Texas Rangers.
@iamnotyu5548
@iamnotyu5548 Жыл бұрын
for the final question, as a military serviceman myself, sometimes an aging warrior comes to understand his former more enemy than his civilian countryman who have not known battle, but only play at it. the civilians will tell stories and pronounce judgements upon subjects they are clueless about, but the warrior knows what other warriors have endured and thus have a greater kinship. a fellow warrior is a fellow warrior. a patch on our arms, and rich men far away determine if we are friends or foe on any given day.
@charleshopkins3817
@charleshopkins3817 Жыл бұрын
Jack Hays is my 5x great grandfather on my mother’s side. Neat.
@matthewstavrowsky2393
@matthewstavrowsky2393 Жыл бұрын
Wow. You should be very proud of your heritage. He was a great man.
@JimboTheMick
@JimboTheMick 11 ай бұрын
Bullshit😂
@charleshopkins3817
@charleshopkins3817 11 ай бұрын
@@JimboTheMick you probably right though. My grandma is full of shit lol
@JimboTheMick
@JimboTheMick 11 ай бұрын
@charleshopkins3817 yeah no shit kid.
@ephraimgarrett4727
@ephraimgarrett4727 Жыл бұрын
Although he couldn't stop speeding train, or leap a tall building in a single bound, Jack Hays was a man of steel. Buffalo Hump must have recognized that.
@artiefufkin88
@artiefufkin88 Жыл бұрын
What a story. Fantastically told. Awesome job! Love this channel :)
@nancywood9027
@nancywood9027 Жыл бұрын
Well…upon hearing some of this Texas history it makes me understand just how much my Texas school teachers failed to teach us about much of our Texas history. I have heard about Jack Hayes before just in passing, but really never knew about the Enchanted Rock story which is just one story that went untold in any of my history classes.
@TheBelrick
@TheBelrick Жыл бұрын
because public schooling has dark masters writing the curriculum
@RogerCharlamange
@RogerCharlamange Жыл бұрын
Because if we teach the actual history and not just tell kids "WHITE PEOPLE BAD" then the narrative wouldn't be so big right now
@TheBelrick
@TheBelrick Жыл бұрын
@@RogerCharlamange Im sorry Andy, you missed an important memo. We are at war. The reason why kids are told white people bad, is because an entity is using this narrative as a weapon. (and they have many other weapons)
@johnnyjohnson1326
@johnnyjohnson1326 Жыл бұрын
They don't teach us any of our actual history, only what's been approved by the government.
@BigT2664
@BigT2664 Жыл бұрын
That's common core teaching for you... Local history isn't on anymore except in Middle School, and there it's sketchy at best.
@samuelschick8813
@samuelschick8813 Жыл бұрын
Minor correction. The Colt Paterson does not take a cartridge, it is a cap and ball revolver.
@jamesbailey9140
@jamesbailey9140 Жыл бұрын
Words change meaning over time. While now a cartridge is a self contained round of ammunition, back then a cartridge was separate loading with a lead bullet, powder in a paper cone on the butt that doubled as a wad, then a percussion cap, or flint. In fact, Zig Zag shows a French Zouave using a paper rifle "cartridge"as a cigarette.
@samuelschick8813
@samuelschick8813 Жыл бұрын
@@jamesbailey9140 , But the Colt Paterson did not take a cartridge did it? No it did not. The powder was put in the chamber, then a round ball, then packed down, then when all chambers loaded, grease over the chambers to avoid more than one chamber firing. Then the caps were applied. My OP is correct. The pistol in question did not take a cartridge.
@jamesbailey9140
@jamesbailey9140 Жыл бұрын
@@samuelschick8813 It seems that type was loading was done when paper cartridges containing powder weren't available. It came about in the same time frame as the Paterson. But yes. The cap was separate. So it was still a separate loading round vs center or rimfire self contained cartridges. firearmshistory.blogspot.com/2015/11/
@gilbertodominguez5212
@gilbertodominguez5212 Жыл бұрын
Hays County in Texas was named after Texas Ranger John Coffee Hays. The county seat is San Marcos, about 50 miles north of San Antonio, my hometown. I've climbed Enchanted Rock just a couple times, on my way to and from Fredericksburg. It's more of a walk up the hill, not very steep. The story I heard was the rock was called "Enchanted" because at night -- when everything is quiet -- a humming sound can be heard coming from it. So native tribes believed it was possessed. I heard a scientific explanation for the sound but don't recall what it was. Anyway, fascinating account and excellent work on the video
@monabonejakon2797
@monabonejakon2797 Жыл бұрын
The dome is full of cracks and the wind whistles through them. For a real adventure, crawl through the cracks in the dome, in one side and out the other. That''s probably AGAINST THE RULES now.
@talesfromanoldmanpatoneal6372
@talesfromanoldmanpatoneal6372 Жыл бұрын
Well.... I certainly admire his grit. I've known about this gentleman for some time now but now I'm going to have to look into his story a bit more. Brave man. Warriors always respect other warrior's spirit. Warriors are cut from the same cloth.
@kenf4837
@kenf4837 Жыл бұрын
There may not be a friendship between them, but there is a respect between warriors such that they will give gifts to one another if they feel the opponent is honorable!
@Jonnykrav71
@Jonnykrav71 Жыл бұрын
An excellent presentation. I enjoyed the history and development of the Comanche and the Texas Rangers. Another aspect I really enjoyed was the detailing of the weapons used and what advantages and limitations they gave Jack Hayes in his fight with the Comanche. Please continue this as it is often overlooked on other history channels. The old language used in your narration was also evocative and pleasing to hear.
@TexasBurningFlower
@TexasBurningFlower Жыл бұрын
Thank you for this information. I am a Native Texan, and much enjoy the hill country, where they all lived and loved as I do.
@KernowekTim
@KernowekTim Жыл бұрын
Apparently the name 'Comanche' stems from a bastardisation of the word, 'Ki matsi': Pueblo language= 'Those who are always against us'; 'Enemy people'. They got that one spot on for sure! Always a pleasure to kick-back and enjoy another of your videos in peace. Please keep up your great work.
@taivo55
@taivo55 Жыл бұрын
Wrong. "Comanche" is the common Ute word kɨmantsi 'enemy' (modern Southern Ute kɨmatsi). It is well documented.
@Me2Lancer
@Me2Lancer Жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing this account of Jack Hays defending his position atop Enchanted Rock. I've had the pleasure of reading the plaque near the top of Enchanted Rock with an inscription of his account of the defense.
@dougmoore8314
@dougmoore8314 Жыл бұрын
Mr Hays was a Legendary frontier man, I admit I did know until I discovered this channel and a few others like it. May be owned by the same person. A huge Floridian Thank you!
@davemi00
@davemi00 Жыл бұрын
Another well narrated historical account of our past. Your stories are greatly enjoyed and appreciated. Thanks and just Subbed.
@historyattheokcorral
@historyattheokcorral Жыл бұрын
Welcome aboard!
@Optable
@Optable 11 ай бұрын
Because of the gun, the conflicts on the Wild West plains were so personal and small numbered, when compared to the conquests of early Europe, ME, and Asia, fought by the blade.
@riharikaa809
@riharikaa809 Жыл бұрын
Thank you from New Zealand , very informative and a pleasure to watch and listen to.
@idkok1949
@idkok1949 9 ай бұрын
I’m stoned as fuck right now and this is the most interesting thing I’ve ever seen been watching these for like 40 minutes
@Menuki
@Menuki Жыл бұрын
There’s a story during WWII of an army patrol rolling to a French town with Nazi Wehrmacht lined up in surrender. Upon interrogation, the Nazis misunderstood the Army Rangers that were inbound were in fact Texas Rangers, so they decided they were better off surrendering
@defensorlibertatis9342
@defensorlibertatis9342 Жыл бұрын
Heard this same story over 50 years ago by a WWII vet. I always wondered if it was true.
@SwingingInTheHood
@SwingingInTheHood Жыл бұрын
Now that's hilarious. You know you've got a Rep when the most notorious killers in Europe line up to surrender to you without firing a shot.
@geldoncupi1
@geldoncupi1 Жыл бұрын
Of course not😅😅
@defensorlibertatis9342
@defensorlibertatis9342 Жыл бұрын
@zizo 246 The mythos of Texas is easily dismissed by those not blessed with the grace of being born there. Amother story I would relate here is one attributed to W D I Norris of Mexia Texas. Oilmen traveling to far off and distant lands would usually have problems communicating with the locals. One action that they would take was universally understood. If they drew an outline of Texas in the sand even young children understood those men were there to drill for oil which would eventually improve their life and not to loot, rob or kill them.
@ferengiprofiteer9145
@ferengiprofiteer9145 Жыл бұрын
It's been a while but I recall Enchanted Rock is Texas pink granite.
@judithcampbell1705
@judithcampbell1705 Жыл бұрын
Jack Hayes is a legend. It had to be a rough time to live, but he accomplished so much. Thank you for this great telling of history, I was never taught in school. You do that beautifully!
@matthewstavrowsky2393
@matthewstavrowsky2393 Жыл бұрын
There is a wonderful statue of this heroic Texas Ranger in our town of San Marcos TX. In the county named for him. Hays county.
@historyattheokcorral
@historyattheokcorral Жыл бұрын
A big mural of him in Seguin as well!
@thesnapperlapper2559
@thesnapperlapper2559 Жыл бұрын
Great Episode. Level of detail on both sides was exemplary
@reallyright2431
@reallyright2431 Жыл бұрын
Just found this channel, bravo my friend,new subscription.
@historyattheokcorral
@historyattheokcorral Жыл бұрын
Welcome to the HOKC family!
@daviddawson1718
@daviddawson1718 Жыл бұрын
Enchanted Rock is a granite monolith, not limestone. It actually uplifted and pushed the limestone into an erosional environment. Leaving granite rock poking up through the limestone of the area.
@tsanabab
@tsanabab Жыл бұрын
Having hiked up Enchanted Rock several times, I can attest that it is pink granite, not limestone.
@freddileehowell8688
@freddileehowell8688 Жыл бұрын
Thank you! The detail of geology that was in error in this video ruined the whole validity of the info for me. Also, Ranger Jack Hays married a lady, Susan Calvert who I am proud to have blood relation to. 😊
@daviddawson1718
@daviddawson1718 Жыл бұрын
@@freddileehowell8688 glad to assist, I did work around there in college geology
@mynamedoesntmatter8652
@mynamedoesntmatter8652 Жыл бұрын
@@freddileehowell8688 My soulmate was the great grandson of Capt. Jack. Susan was a lovely woman. My sweetie looked like Capt. Jack. I superimposed their photos, and it’s remarkable. He said his grandmother always told him growing up, “You’re the spit and image of my Daddy.”
@mynamedoesntmatter8652
@mynamedoesntmatter8652 Жыл бұрын
The first comment I read was the correction about the pink granite. The channel owner was a total jerk to the one guy about it, saying “nobody cares about the stupid rocks” because “a million other people” have pointed out the wrongs. But he’s wrong there; I care. I care a lot about the details. And what’s “stupid” isn’t the rocks far as I’m concerned. I’m unsubscribed as of now. I’ve seen too many discrepancies on this channel in details, and calling people out like that is tacky, last time I looked.
@chrisnieto5547
@chrisnieto5547 Жыл бұрын
So much better than Hollywood westerns . This grips me. I feel I’m up on that rock with Haynes. The sweat, the adrenaline, the fear, the brutality, the smell of your own hideous death inches away. What a time.
@ae1586
@ae1586 Жыл бұрын
Many South Carolinians came to Texas as well. Nearly a dozen defended the Alamo , many more settled there after both before the war between the states and after when men like the legendary Manse Jolly came to Texas from the palmetto state
@waynemcleod6767
@waynemcleod6767 Жыл бұрын
Bravery is a quality universally respected and admired but particularly from those who have a martial traditions like the Comanche. The Crow believed that a formidable enemy was a reflection on how great their tribe was. Maybe it was the same for the Comanche in regards to Jack Hays. In any event, honoring and respecting one's enemy to that extent is historically uncommon. Very interesting video.
@ericcrawford3453
@ericcrawford3453 Жыл бұрын
Awesome, love this channel! Look forward to more. Thanks
@historyattheokcorral
@historyattheokcorral Жыл бұрын
Awesome, thank you!
@steveclapper5424
@steveclapper5424 Жыл бұрын
Extraordinary times bring out skill sets that are normally not of much use, hell of a man and what a story!
@blackthorn3621
@blackthorn3621 Жыл бұрын
The fact that they went back to work afterwards is the best part and illustrates the character of these men.
@fliellerenterprises1198
@fliellerenterprises1198 Жыл бұрын
I've read everything I've been able to get my hands on that dealt with Ranger history. Jack Hays and his close associate, Samuel Hamilton Walker, were legendary leaders whose reputations were born from, and grew out of, the very difficult and often hostile environment that was the Republic of Texas in the 1830's and 40's. This account is spot on, and a wonderful initial foray into Ranger and Texas history for the newcomer.
@quanahburgess5566
@quanahburgess5566 Жыл бұрын
We weren't pushed out by anyone! We had a dispute with 2 sides of Shoshone, We decided to break off back down South, obtained to horse from the Spanish in Colorado/N. New Mexico, became the most powerful Tribe for over 200 years! I say "Back" down South because We're Uto-Aztecan!
@quanahburgess5566
@quanahburgess5566 Жыл бұрын
@@dorianwolf2198 keyboard comedian
@taivo55
@taivo55 Жыл бұрын
Absolutely, this vision of Comanche in the Northern Rockies grubbing for roots and berries, and eating meat from dead carcasses is racist to the core (and highly inaccurate). The evidence is quite clear--that the Comanches moved south to get closer to Mexican horse herds and set up the "horse conveyor" from Mexico to the northern Plains. It was a bold "economic" decision, not the result of hunger and poverty and stronger tribes pushing them anywhere. Current definitions call Comancheria an "empire". That is far closer to the reality than the "bloodthirsty savages" presentation in this and other portrayals such as the claptrap in Gwynne's book (upon which this video is based).
@terryrogers7899
@terryrogers7899 Жыл бұрын
I live about 20 miles north of Enchanted Rock in Llano Texas. This was our favorite place to drive out to as kids just learning to drive, load up the cousins and go hike. The plaque commemorating Jack Hays is at the top of the rock on the way up. Back around the 1920s a group of Llano teens drove a model T to the top of the rock. My granddad, Herman Rogers was steering. We've seen rattlesnakes there, but they never bothered us. Thank you so much for making this video about this event. tj rogers
@historyattheokcorral
@historyattheokcorral Жыл бұрын
Very cool story! Thank you so much for sharing. Llano is beautiful country.
@markgray6982
@markgray6982 Жыл бұрын
I'm about 40 miles North of Enchanted Rock,,,,,,our Ranch has Comanche Creek running thru it, I have found arrow heads,,,,,,a Friend found a huge Lance Head and i found a fleshing rock. Its super cool,,,fits right in your palm,,,,they used these to flesh animal hides. Captain Jack,,, Brave to much . A Man's man
@historyattheokcorral
@historyattheokcorral Жыл бұрын
Beautiful country up there!
@steveelliott77
@steveelliott77 Жыл бұрын
Excellent story told very well. May we all sell our lives at the highest possible price.
@tysonpotter3205
@tysonpotter3205 Жыл бұрын
I absolutely love this story. And very well told the only critique I have is enchanted rock is made out of pink granite, not lime stone . Been there many times. Thank you for such good story telling.
@lizardsigh
@lizardsigh Жыл бұрын
Furthermore, there's no limestone exposure until a few miles south of ER.
@jamesweise480
@jamesweise480 Жыл бұрын
Excellent historical overview and perspective. Great job and very informative.
@Z0mb3hHunt3r
@Z0mb3hHunt3r Жыл бұрын
Actually the 1836 Colt Patterson .36 cal was loaded via cylinder face with a 17grain charge of fine grade granulated blackpowder, wad, followed by a Greased conical or other projectile(s) before the cylinders capped off with percussion caps. later, nitrated paper enveloped powder/wad/projectile "cartridges" were introduced to speed up reloading.
@RGHuron
@RGHuron Жыл бұрын
Please keep this series going!
@nigeldeforrest-pearce8084
@nigeldeforrest-pearce8084 Жыл бұрын
Excellent History, Outstanding Storytelling!!!!
@ludwigderzanker9767
@ludwigderzanker9767 Жыл бұрын
Hello folks always cool to learn and hear about the Nemen'ah and this time in Texas. Hayes was the roughly base of the captain in Comanche Moon by McMurtry...I don't want to know where this golden spoon was coming from and I wonder if there was only one Buffalo Hump at this time..Hayes had to be replaced in the lexicon and wikipedia's for really tough badass! The picture you show is Q.Parker, the pictures of Buffalo Hump I own are all not that proved...God's Blessings from Northern Germany. Ludwig.
@historyattheokcorral
@historyattheokcorral Жыл бұрын
Hello friend!
@pauljackson4075
@pauljackson4075 Жыл бұрын
You sir are a master storyteller! Thanks for posting your very entertaining videos.
@lewisticknor
@lewisticknor Жыл бұрын
Dayum! Well done sir. It is a crowded field of history channels, but this is some good stuff!
@historyattheokcorral
@historyattheokcorral Жыл бұрын
Much appreciated!
@outhereliving6809
@outhereliving6809 10 ай бұрын
Best history channel going! Thank you.
@renaissanceredneck73
@renaissanceredneck73 Жыл бұрын
Loved the use of footage from "commanche moon", an awesome miniseries.
@JPGoertz
@JPGoertz Жыл бұрын
These stories are great. And full of respect for all those who fought so bravely. Peace be with them now - hopefully in Paradise together...
@kingofcapp
@kingofcapp Жыл бұрын
The Colt's revolver played an undeniable part in the defeat of native warriors. Their huge force multiplying affect was shocking in battle, especially in the late 1830s-1840s.
@slappy8941
@slappy8941 Жыл бұрын
It's either Colt's revolver or the Colt revolver.
@jeffreypaul734
@jeffreypaul734 Жыл бұрын
Yeah, native genocide is cool. Hillbillies are still doing it
@jeffreypaul734
@jeffreypaul734 Жыл бұрын
Real men don't need guns
@kingofcapp
@kingofcapp Жыл бұрын
@@jeffreypaul734 I think you're lost
@thechiefwildhorse4651
@thechiefwildhorse4651 Жыл бұрын
@@kingofcapp Disease had Everything to do with theft of the Lands Guns barley had any part. Also millions of Indigenous People are growing in number and will be taking back the Lands -COMANCHE NATION
@Happyfsscist33
@Happyfsscist33 Жыл бұрын
I was at Enchanted Rock one time and a Chinook did a close fly-by. Awesome.
@JiggerPick
@JiggerPick Жыл бұрын
Wow! Thank you so much for this.
@josephbrickey1302
@josephbrickey1302 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the story. I have heard it before but your version gave much more detail. My daughter can see Enchanted Rock from her back porch; she and her husband love the view. I have climbed the Rock a number of times--great view from the top.
@Sandbarfight
@Sandbarfight Жыл бұрын
Thank you
@historyattheokcorral
@historyattheokcorral Жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@bradpatt2753
@bradpatt2753 Жыл бұрын
Great Video, one inaccuracy, Stephen F Austin passed away in December of 1836. He couldn’t have sent Hays on his mission and it is doubtful given the timelines he ever met him.
@jimmyhaley727
@jimmyhaley727 Жыл бұрын
Dont like Austin or the commie town named after him, dont like Houston either but the man Houston was the Man i do like
@jeremymccarthy8392
@jeremymccarthy8392 Жыл бұрын
Wow! What an American badass! Also, this is so very well written.
@JohnBullard
@JohnBullard 7 ай бұрын
I re-read the rendition of this story in Prescott's THE TEXAS RANGERS for about the tenth time while sitting in the rock cleft that I guessed Hays had used as an enfilade. Enchanted Rock is a granite mound rising out of the green hills of central Texas. When the breeze blows through your hair on top of that rock, spirits from centuries bygone whisper in your ear. Even in bright hot sunshine, it's quiet and spooky up there.
@AVToth
@AVToth 10 ай бұрын
I loved the Larry Mcmurtry books in the Lonesome Dove series. They were about my area of Texas. For years my family talked about them and eagerly waited for the next volume. It was coincidence that I read "Dead Man's Walk", shortly before we went on vacation to New Mexico. We drove across the Jornada. Mcmurtry was spot on. I felt severe thirst the whole way because the writing was so perfect.
@Cereal_Killer007
@Cereal_Killer007 Жыл бұрын
He wanted to sell his life for the highest market value What a great quote
@GilmerJohn
@GilmerJohn Жыл бұрын
Even if you die, you have helped your comrades in parallel units "persuade'" the natives from "fighting to annulation."
@bl18ce99
@bl18ce99 Жыл бұрын
For those of you who do not know. There is a cave system at the top of Enchanted Rock, where you can take a guided tour. IT IS NOT IMPROVED! You will need to be fairly physically fit, and there are no lights so every one will need their own flashlight. Many times you will be on your knees, or climbing up. ( We took a group of boy scouts through ), so it's not really difficult unless you're heavy. This was the best caving experience I've ever had. I don't know if the tour is still available, but I recommend it if it is.
@tedgraves6366
@tedgraves6366 Жыл бұрын
While the victors write the history; respect between combatants and professional soldiers is a remarkable trait. . .
@ken2tou
@ken2tou Жыл бұрын
I ride by Enchanted Rock often on my MC. It’s a beautiful area surrounded by ranches. There is not a lake at the base of the rock. Look at Google Earth. Cool trick of photography producers. There is a small pond away from the rock behind, but not near the base as this video shows. Hayes was an amazing warrior!
@ceceliafraser152
@ceceliafraser152 Жыл бұрын
Oh goodness how much very I loved Thank you for bringing me joy at this tale So much spirit and love in the opponent's
@gerald2074
@gerald2074 Жыл бұрын
Hayes was the embodiment of American Spirit of Adventure Courage Combat and Exploration!! A True Legacy of a Real Life American Hero! A True Warrior!! Loved by his friend s and comrade s and Respected by his enemies! He lead and extraordinary excitingly fulfilling life of a Outdoorsman!!
@Clownlife432
@Clownlife432 Жыл бұрын
24:23 it wasn’t friendship. It was real recognizing real. I don’t think anyone was right or wrong then. I think that conquest was the game of the day through much of human history. It is only in the very recent 100 years or so that conquest has been seen as wrong. I think I can’t judge them by the standards of today.
@jaysmith8347
@jaysmith8347 Жыл бұрын
I finally subscribed to HOKC. Now, I have a suggestion: How about an episode on the First and Second Battles of Pyramid Lake in Nevada? Why? Captain Jack, of course!
@MostCoolestName
@MostCoolestName Жыл бұрын
the spoon damn near brought a tear to my eye, couldnt write a better story
@aresjerry
@aresjerry Жыл бұрын
It's good to visit some of the sights Jack Hayes was involved with, especially if you're one of the many Texans with ancestry here. I have ancestry to both sides. Cynthia Ann Parker in the branch that wasn't in Texas at the time, and ancestry to grandchild of Quanah and Cynthia Ann Parker.
@deaddocreallydeaddoc5244
@deaddocreallydeaddoc5244 Жыл бұрын
The preamble history you provide is perhaps more important than the subject. Few today realize that Indians were violent and most had displaced others who had displaced others before them. Just like in the rest of the world throughout history, until technology made it more difficult and nations came into being. Then, the nations had to find how to live in peace. They are still working it out because some are still tribal in their thinking.
@timandres6410
@timandres6410 Жыл бұрын
Nicely done! Your channel will be a nice addition to my subscription list.
@historyattheokcorral
@historyattheokcorral Жыл бұрын
Welcome aboard!
@peterplotts1238
@peterplotts1238 Жыл бұрын
Well done. Thank you. If you would permit me one correction. Enchanted Rock is a formation of pink granite. The rock heats up during the day causing it to expand. During the cool of the night, the rock contracts. When this happens it makes a lot of spooky sounds.
@michaelobrien1910
@michaelobrien1910 Жыл бұрын
Rock is actually in Llano County
@stuartalexander2657
@stuartalexander2657 Жыл бұрын
Now that's a man's man in any era ❤
@richardkirk5098
@richardkirk5098 7 ай бұрын
We have wonderful statue of Jack Hayes in our town square here in San Marcos TX. A real hero.
@garyelsik3376
@garyelsik3376 Жыл бұрын
I’ve had the honor to know two Rangers I met one morning in 1971 while eating breakfast just on the outskirts of Kingsville Tx. The Rangers were sitting with their backs to a wall talking when myself and two friends sat at the table in front of them. They wore white long sleeve shirts, khaki triwsers and were wearing cocked and locked Colt 1911 pistols. They spoke first asking me and my two teen age friends how it was going. The Rangers were well mannered and chatty. We left after that breakfast with high regard for the men. We met several more times at Paul’s BBQ for breakfast and the Rangers always sat back to the wall and made friendly conversation but never about anything going on in their duties. Respect to the Texas Rangers.
@jimmyhaley727
@jimmyhaley727 Жыл бұрын
always back to the wall,, and me too
@eh_bailey
@eh_bailey Жыл бұрын
Great video, but I think Enchanted Rock is granite, not limestone... maybe not important to anyone else lol, but granite is really uncommon in Texas, but limestone is everywhere.
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