The History Of Angel Jin & Angel - Tekken 8 Edition - Devil Gene Transformation, Retcon And Changes!

Hello everyone!
And welcome back to another Tekken 8 video!
With the saga between Jin and Kazuya having finally concluded, today I though It would be the perfect time to sit down and talk, about a surprise reveal In the Dark Awakens story, a remanent of a lost era, and mysterious allusive character of the franchise, Angel, or as we say In Tekken 8’s story, Angel Jin!
Now Angel Is an old, and i mean very old character within the franchise, one as mysteriousas Jun Kazama, but why so has this been the case for the character, especially her for her narrative significance and role In Tekken 8’s story?
Well that’s what we will be exploring In todays video, as well as her connection with the devil gene!
With that being said, It Is worth noting that this video will be an interesting hybrid video of sorts, one based around the character of Angel In the franchise, and then how that’s implemented Into Tekken 8’s story through Jin Kazama!
With that said, please do enjoy the video!
Intro - 00:00
Angels Tekken 2 Debut, Connection To Kazuya And Retcon - 02:17
Reoccurring Appearance In Tekken Tag 1 And Tekken Tag 2 - 04:35
Non Canon Appearances Beyond The Game, Tekken Forever And Tekken - 06:22
Return In Tekken 8 Through Angel Jin And Influence - 08:57
Aftermath And Overall Thoughts - 11:33
Outro - 12:33
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[@CountofBleck]

Interesting to note, there might have been a hint even earlier of the presence of Angel Jin. At the end of Tekken 4, when Jin defeats Heihachi and Kazuya, and he prepares to do a killing blow, he has a brief vision of Jun and decides to leave them. As he flies off, a single single white feather descends, something Angel leaves behind in her non canon Tag endings.

[@brandogents6624]

Love this, I was always wondering about the white feather he left behind

[@HovektheArtist]

Ye wondered if that was forgotten or retconned til now

[@AmariahKemet]

Always thought that was Jin’s presence but yeah I can see that. Although I’m not sure it’s been that thought out in advance

[@selinawalsh9075]

Honestly, that was such a good payoff, since it makes sense he's unconsciously channeling a little Kazama energy since his mum's on his mind.

[@seanfrance3182]

I remember that. I didn’t realize it was a white feather. Always thought it was black but his mercy is very telling in that scene

[@dionysisnance4204]

That fight with jin vs kazuya is space was badass

[@Oneshotmaster256]

In space*

[@Ankhael9]

Harada stated that Jin wings is due to his kazama blood, so I would say Angel is a kazama thing

[@MEM-brain]

By that logic, all bird's are Kazama's and all other beings with non feather wings are devils.

[@Ankhael9]

@mem976 well you probably should tell katsuhiro Harada that lmaoo, let me give you some context. On Twitter a fan asked Harada, why does kazuya devil look different from jin devil like their wings etc. And is it because Jin's kazama blood. And Harada replied yes, Jin's kazama blood is why his devil looks different from Kazuaya's. That tweet was prior to the TK8 release. Now long times fans have always wondered about this and the kazamas connection to Angel, because of the purification power. Fun fact in one of the old tekken comics, Jun transforms into Angel 😇.

[@Ankhael9]

@mem976 lol well you probably should tell katsuhiro Harada that lmaoo, let me give you some context. On Twitter a fan asked Harada, why does kazuya devil look different from jin devil like their wings etc. And is it because Jin's kazama blood. And Harada replied yes, Jin's kazama blood is why his devil looks different from Kazuaya's. That tweet was prior to the TK8 release. Now long times fans have always wondered about this and the kazamas connection to Angel, because of the purification power. Fun fact in one of the old tekken comics, Jun transforms into Angel 😇.

[@mryoung6090]

@@MEM-brainI’m pretty sure he meant the Angel wings

[@elijahdubois7902]

I ain't gonna lie, Angel Jin looks like a Final Fantasy character. I'm just say. He looks cool though.

[@DJAB87]

Like a Warrior of Light.

[@elijahdubois7902]

@@DJAB87 yup

[@overworkedgilgamesh]

@@DJAB87 the only final fantasy game i played is FFXIV. and he looks nothing like the warrior of light. he looks more like those boss primal monsters

[@Azure_Roy]

@DJAB8 As someone who has also played XIV up to EW(not finished yet) he dose look like THE Warrior of Light

[@DJAB87]

Haven't played FF14 but I have played every main offline ff and Jin does indeed resemble the Warrior of Light from FF1.

[@praveenloganathan7495]

I think the power of purification is exclusive to the Kazama line and the Angel is a representation of that power. As for the Hachijo the Manifestation of Devil works in similar manner, which slowly corrupts the users, along with the Mishima who uses their electrical abilities to dominate the battlefield.

[@fra5715]

My childhood dream actually came true to play Angel Jin. My brother and I laughed a lot about how we used costumes and characters to make up stories back in Tekken 5.

[@Winddemonslayer]

Same minus the brother part

[@xxx_jim_the_reaper_xxx]

Same minus the brother and the Tekken 5 part

[@larryragland887]

The angel and devil gene are basically the soul edge and soul calibur of Tekken

[@sharkaholic2171]

Nah soul edge was in jinpachi in tekken 5

[@lancefrank5395]

Same universe as well

[@4yahwey275]

Nah sc was lowkey evil

[@vaivs7903]

I just wanted to say that Jin is in reality Seya. His Rage art is "Pegasus Ryuuseken" and at the end of the game he even gains a cloth /armor xD

[@Winddemonslayer]

It reminded me of the same thing 😂

[@mr219gip5210]

To see Jin in Angel Form was unexpected, but surprising! Ik Angel been missing for years in the cannon story, but she still apart of it, just as much as The Devil. Honestly, I like this form, something different in the storyline, hopefully in the next installment, we get more of Angel Jin character development! Again, amazing storyline, great characteristics, game features, great fighting.

[@HonestJohn_01.19]

Unlikely, as Jins Angel form had been a direct result of the purification of his Devil gene. Of which, has since been eviscerated alongside Kazuya's during their battle just outside of Earth's atmosphere. In his words, they're merely human now, with the only character still possessing such power being Reina- unbeknownst to either of them. Jun will likely help Kazuya to redeem himself between his defeat at the hands of Jin, and the next installment- and he and Jin will fight side by side as normal people (by Tekken standards) to combat what remains of Azazel's power.

[@Leadblast]

Jin's Angel form wasn't surprising. It was hinted at since T4 with the white feather among the black feathers falling off Devil Jin's wings when he flies off the Hon-Maru temple. It was only a matter of time his Angel form would finally emerge.

[@KevinHardaway]

Angel Jin is exactly what was needed to finally end the bloodline battle and start a new

[@vikingfromnorth45]

Yeah but reina is a devil now

[@Jp_games30]

Not surprised, especially devil Jins wings were not a traditional demonic wings. Seing his TK5 pallet swap with White wings I knew that one day he will become an angel. Also he is momas boy so no surprised

[@cromugus]

Devil jin was more of an Fallen Angel rather than a devil itself

[@Nobodysurvivesevenonebit]

The angel form is stunning

[@ladynikkie]

I assumed it would have been an unlockable character after you beat story mode

[@ZorinNephalemz]

​​@@ladynikkieI can see it being a Costume for Devil Jin in the future, game is too new and that is too big of a spoiler to just find someone online as Angel Jin, so just wait a bit till the games been out and people's had time to play/watch the story. Edit: What i really want is the Nephalem (Half Angel, Half Demon) form we got to play for like 2 minutes before he went full Angel.

[@mephistopheles4910]

If Reina is going to be the new big bad, I think it woube nice to have Jin and Asuka take the mantle of Jun and Angel. We know that Asuka has Kazama purifying powers from Tekken 5, so it would be nice to see her come into her own.

[@nicholasnorman4179]

So askua going to be a MP

[@vikingfromnorth45]

@@nicholasnorman4179don’t kid yourself asuka’s tekken 5 is no. Canon

[@xxx_jim_the_reaper_xxx]

​@@vikingfromnorth45 I hope Asuka become relevant again.

[@makisbizarreadventure4669]

@@vikingfromnorth45But the power could be. She is a Kazama after all.

[@Netherwolf6100]

My thing is this, I believe is canon that Jin's Devil Gene created the mark on his left arm, and that the Devil Gene can't exist without Azazel. If Jin's mark is still present and Reina has a Devil form, then both Azazel and the Devil Gene are still around. Maybe Kazuya doesn't have it anymore but Jin and Reina most likely still do, as well as all of Kazuya's future also evil siblings until the game stops making money. Damn shame, was hoping this game would actually end that stuff but it seems like its going to keep going forever.

[@cpmar8400]

I wonder if Asuka Kazama have purification powers like Jun Kazama. She kinda had it in her Tekken 5 ending.

[@simonepinna8554]

Considering how she is treated in the series, i doubt it that she will have a important role,just stuck of being a comic joke with Lilly,which is a shame.

[@karaokepup]

honestly, i always thought angel was jun's form, to be a counter part of devil kazuya. Since jun had died, she would show up as angel. Angel showing up within kazuyas head, because Jun was still trying to save him, even in death. But I was a little kid when i played tekken 2, so that's just my head canon

[@TerrionCarter]

Jun didn't die. In her side story in Tekken 8, she's shown falling unconscious after defeating Ogre. I interpreted that she's been on a spiritual journey all this time; but very much still alive. She also shows up to Kazuya after the credits of the story mode.

[@karaokepup]

@@TerrionCarter :000 thats a big revelation i did not see coming. I still see angel as kazuyas version of her in his head. Like jun was his angel.

[@user-ty1zr9ng6h]

I started playing tekken from Tekken 6 as a kid, and used to label the alternative outfit for Devil Jin was Jin's "Angel Jin" form since he had white wings and stuff and angelic themes to his pants and gloves aside from the horns. It's kinda surreal to me that the concept of "Angel Jin" exists now.

[@TheBlackOtaku]

Is just me or Angel Jin looks like a character from the anime Saint Seiya ?

[@sonyvssnes]

Definitely inspired by saint seiya this game and the franchise have a lot of anime references.

[@nicholasnorman4179]

Final fantasy 4 main character

[@kamudo999]

I can see what you mean, but at the same time, I disagree. In any case, angel jin looks amazing

[@lonewolffang]

​@@nicholasnorman4179 I was thinking that too.

[@rayhayes7701]

Maybe

[@SebastianLoh-cm9hk]

Kazama blood is a kryptonite to the devil Jin, in the Asuka ending in Tekken 5, asuka kazama touch cleanse away the unconscious devil jin

[@grownmannn2]

Angel herself needs a return. The cursed blood been running crazy lately

[@vikingfromnorth45]

Unlikely she lost

[@Leadblast]

No she didn't. Just retconned from the story before she ever reached her goal

[@mercentin1499]

I hope angel jin will return since that end credits ending on the story just tease a tekken 9 for the future it would also make sense for jin to use angel powers again to battle another devil gene user that is part of his family

[@jameljenks2584]

Remember when Asuka was part of the plot?

[@MrInuhanyou123]

No I don't cuz she never was 😂 she had a comic relief ending once in Tekken 5 where Jin fell into her boobs

[@josesoldevilla3092]

Wish angel jin is a costume for devil jin it would be sick

[@mr.checkyourself4672]

Angel really needs a return

[@EmericMAMBOLE]

wouldn't surprise me if she gets announced as dlc

[@KingHoDoKaN]

She’ll be here

[@alexallen126]

TTT3. I think She’s one of the ones that will be exclusive to just the tag games, like Forest Law, Dr Bosconovitch, Michelle, Slim Bob, Ogre. Honestly though I just want Baek and Bruce back.

[@uppercutexplosion8704]

I think she only will be in Tekken games that involves every Tekken character but I can be wrong.

[@alexribeirosoares6355]

Tekken 9. I think Angel's one of the ones that will be returned to canon in Main Games, like Jun Kazama return in Tekken 8.

[@miaimiai1983]

Multiple demons multiple Angels. I dont think they meant to replace Angel. After so many years of waiting for Jin to find the Kazama power of good, this reveal was a dream. So grateful to the team for allowing his story to finally go to this path!

[@BellowDGaming]

St.Seiya that's all I can say.

[@TerrionCarter]

SPOILER ALERT: Jun isnt dead. At the end of Tekken 8's credits, Jun shows up standing over a defeated Kazuya. Side stories are unlocked when beating story mode, and Jun's story shows her falling unconscious after beating Ogre. I interpreted that she fell into a slumber and has been on a spiritual journey.

[@armanightrealm4217]

Angel Jin is just Warrior of Light coming to help him 😂😂😂 Just kidding, just kidding, but the design though! I love it! And it really didn’t help me for crushing on Jin since Tekken 3, his angel form is so cool :”D

[@SabrumBaker]

That very last fight when they both don’t have their powers was iconic, legendary incredible the best thing ever in fighting games. Idk if they can or how they’ll top this

[@TOROTK]

To make things interesting tekken 9 should have where kazuya is with jun and she is teaching him that power wasnt always everything. And Jin realizing that Reina wants to kill kazuya and he has to go help kazuya from Reina and both fight togrther against Reina, doesnt work out and Angel arrives to equalize the battle field

[@agungxs9715]

Or just Jin leavin Lars to deal with it & for all things

[@paytonturner1421]

Nice video on this character of great work.

[@lonewolffang]

Hopefully, in Tekken 9, someone will have the Angel gene.

[@HonestJohn_01.19]

There is no "Angel Gene". Jins Angel form had been a direct result of the purification of his Devil gene. Of which, has since been eviscerated alongside Kazuya's during their battle just outside of Earth's atmosphere. In his words, they're merely human now, with the only character still possessing such power being Reina- unbeknownst to either of them. Jun will likely help Kazuya to redeem himself between his defeat at the hands of Jin, and the next installment- and he and Jin will fight side by side as normal people (by Tekken standards) to combat what remains of Azazel's power.

[@zabes1081]

​@@HonestJohn_01.19 I get What you mean however as you said ángel jin is a purification of devil Jin which means that it is a new form a new Power (hence the name change) meaning that is very posible that he can regain that power since after fighting Kazuya he could barely stand and becuase of reina it makes sence to fight the last devil with an ángel. Sure it does not need to be Jin but there will Lively be a person having the angels power

[@lonewolffang]

@@HonestJohn_01.19 Thing is, even if it's purification, Angel did exist in the Tekken series. Given how they Namco hasn't touched on it doesn't mean they won't attempt to make another counter character. Having thrown out a lot of ideas, thet could create another angel based character if they choose to.

[@HonestJohn_01.19]

@@lonewolffang Yes, they could create an entirely new Angel based character. But as the canon currently stands with this most recent installment (just released less than a week ago, mind you) Angel Jin returning simply isn't in the cards as the Kazama's have the power of purification, not Amgelhood. The only reason why Jin was able to transform into an "Angel" was because the purification process altered/ enhanced Jins "Devil" state. Without access to that power, it can't be purified and by extension, utilized as a transformation. Edit: @zabes1081

[@HonestJohn_01.19]

@@lonewolffang So, as it stands- there is no Angel gene. Just purification via Kazama blood. But again, they could create an entirely new character/ plot-device to allow Angel characters in future installments. Though, as of right now- it doesnt appear all too likely. As that wasn't the route the developers decided to go with this latest entry. Edit: @zabes1081

[@J94nene]

I think with the reveal of Devil Reina tekken 9 is gonna be about Angel Jin vs her as well as Kazuya redeeming himself

[@HonestJohn_01.19]

Unlikely, as Jins Angel form had been a direct result of the purification of his Devil gene. Of which, has since been eviscerated alongside Kazuya's during their battle just outside of Earth's atmosphere. In his words, they're merely human now, with the only character still possessing such power being Reina- unbeknownst to either of them. Jun will likely help Kazuya to redeem himself between his defeat at the hands of Jin, and the next installment- and he and Jin will fight side by side as normal people (by Tekken standards) to combat what remains of Azazel's power.

[@dionr1168]

Kazuya is beyond redemption at this point. The fact that he STILL had evil intent despite losing the Devil Gene proves that.

[@HonestJohn_01.19]

@@dionr1168 Kazuya was still all hyped up on Mountain Dew. He wanted to see the fight through to the end. Even starting to walk away after believing he'd defeated Jin, rather than killing him right then and there. Once he regains conciousness, presumably by Jun's side- Jun, coupled with Jin having spared him, and effectively putting an end to the cycle could be enough to steer him away from his "evil intent"- as you put it. Not to mention, nolonger being corrupted by the nature of the Devil Gene after a reasonable amount of time has passed.

[@HonestJohn_01.19]

@@dionr1168 And that's honestly very likely the whole point in Jun appearing by his side after his defeat. Alluding to her "saving" him during/ or prior to the events of the next installment.

[@KingHoDoKaN]

Kazuya wont be redeeming a damn thing. He has Satsui No Hado. And its too much evidence. True Devil Kazuyas teleport sound fx is that of akumas in street fighter and the scene where he forms his fireball in the same way akumas does his hadouken. Dead give away.

[@UnknownFeng]

I think I was partly right when Devil Jin said “I was always a part of you”

[@josephjoestar995]

Incredible story line, man I had some high expectations for this game but the story really blew my socks off just incredible!!

[@freakzeke6404]

Wanted Angel in the game but didn't expect Jin to become one though I always thought it should happen.

[@fra5715]

Got that Saint Seiya look and feel

[@valeriavitale1290]

Angel Jin was a nice surprise. I hope he comes out as a DLC in the future

[@Bos187]

Maybe they can do something with Asuka after this. Remember her Tekken 5 ending?

[@nnannaonyeka]

I wouldn't mind seeing angel return

[@CorbinLeonard-rp4et]

I knew that there's a angle gen

[@kysworld0]

Don’t want no one in here saying Ryu beating Jin

[@atz9826]

I think a more elegant angel form would of looked much better than some animesque look, in a way showing the more human side of jin

[@MrInuhanyou123]

Tekken is anime lmao

[@gabrielbenitez9257]

From Devil Jin to Angel Jin it was a blast addition to the story even though it was short lived.

[@newhybrid101]

Blood Vengeance/Tag 2s Dark Archangel Jin>>>Angel Jin Angel Jin was only slightly stronger than True Devil Kazuya who was somewhat challenged by Lars and Reina while Movie Devil treated Jin like a little baby and then Movie Archangel Jin completely dominated that Devil. Also those non canon forms give a major height boost,showing its a more drastic transformation. It was stated in the movie that Kazuyas form made him 10x stronger but he didn't seem more than 3x stronger in the game. It makes sense cause Movie Devil Jin seems both angelic and demonic. Angel was never retconned from canon. She is 100% canon. She was never part of Kazuyas soul,why would Kazuya have a blond woman as part of his soul? Angel is stated in manuals to simply be just that,an Angel. She saw what was going on with Kazuya and descended to help him withhis soul by fighting his Devil. Jun was the one to have the relationship with Kazuya while Angel handled the Devil persona. She cant possibly be non canon as she appeared in a canon game. While there have been retcons most of those "retcons" are fans simply not understanding the story. Like the reason Heihachi threw Kazuya off a cliff While there was a retcon there, what was originally said isnt actually undone. Heihachi throwing him off to test Kazuya is what Heihachi told Kazuya and what Kazuya always believed,as the Tekken 1 story is from Kazuyas perspective. The scene where Heihachi tells him he is going to test him is still present in story recap in Tekken 8. Heihachi didnt want to reveal the truth why he did it,but testing Kazuya was simply what was the "public excuse"

[@S1mpski]

i hope they add these skins to the tekken shop would be sick

[@skykyro7712]

considering jin visited his devil self and past self, i think it would be cool to see if jin retains his devil powers and uses it for good use and has full control over it.

[@HonestJohn_01.19]

Unlikely, as Jins Angel form had been a direct result of the purification of his Devil gene. Of which, has since been eviscerated alongside Kazuya's during their battle just outside of Earth's atmosphere. In his words, they're merely human now, with the only character still possessing such power being Reina- unbeknownst to either of them. Jun will likely help Kazuya to redeem himself between his defeat at the hands of Jin, and the next installment- and he and Jin will fight side by side as normal people (by Tekken standards) to combat what remains of Azazel's power.

[@agungxs9715]

Remains of Azazel source ?? you mean !!??

[@itzorin600]

The angel form reminds me of Saint seiyah

[@rayhayes7701]

Maybe 🤔

[@jrbudoybudoy]

I remember that one Tekken film where Jin unleashes an almost similar looking form. It was magnificient.

[@rayhayes7701]

I actually waited to comment on the Jin, Devil Jin and Jun videos because of this video. Anyway, As someone who has played Tekken 2 growing up I kinda gave up on Angel ever showing up again after Tekken Tag Tournament games. There was no reason why I gave up I just didn't think she would show up again. Angel being retconned out of the story didn't help either. But maybe it was wrong for me to give up on her but it is what is it is. I almost gave up on Jun returning too but I still held on. Honestly Jin is one of my favorites as he was easier to use but mainly I felt more connected to his story since playing Tekken was kind of a thing I did with my Dad and my sister back when I was talking to my dad.

[@azazel7505]

Yo can you do THO Asuka, since she has so much wasted potential especially seen in her Tetsuman Comics where an alternate Tekken 6 story is told, although very anime-y, fanservice-y and weird at times, Asuka seems like a much better role for the protagonist role Tetsuman comics also parallel with Tag 2's buddy system of who likes who, and has a nice role for Lars, whom falls in love with Zafina

[@blackmark2899]

It looked like Angel form was achieved due to the Kazama's bloodline power of purification combining with the Devil Gene to make what I can only describe as the Anti-Venom of the Devils. As we saw every hit landed on Kazuya it started purifying him. It did it's job, it purified Kazuya and Jin of the Devil Gene. I think that's a good place to let Jin rest and live his life. He probably still has the Kazama's purification in him but I would propose Asuka as a the hero to go against Reina. She too has the Kazama ability of purification and she really hasn't come into her own.

[@betrapvideos]

For the record Angel is my favorite Tekken 2 and Tekken Tag 2 character

[@user-py8kj5ve4y]

Good thing I finished the story last week or else I would have been spoiled by the video title and thumbnail lol

[@calvinhenderson4426]

Angel Jin is Jin new form I believe Jin has truly become the hope of the world because with his new form Angel Jin Jin now has the power to cleans the devil Jin power from any one who has it Jin no longer has the devil Jin power he has the power of a Angel another power that always was a part of Jin but one that he didn't know any thing about because Jin also possess his mother power to cleans people of the devil Jin power and hold it has on them am so happy with Jin growth and the path that he is on and I hope that they keep Jin this way because he has always been my favorite character in tekken but it always seemed like they never knew what to do with Jin if they wanted him to be a hero or if they wanted him to be bad but I believe Jin was never really bad it was just the family Jin was born into that Jin hated and he wanted to get rid of that side of himself and am so happy that Jin has finally done that and can finally have a happy life moving forward but is Jin fight with the devil Jin really over no it is with his father but now Jin has to take on his father sister who the devil Jin power has woke up in so Angel Jin work is far from over and there is no telling how many more children that Jin grandfather had in his younger days so Jin still has a fight on his hands but at least now Jin has a fighting chance with his new form and Angel power to cleans the devil Jin power from people who have it the child of destiny has become the child of hope and am so happy for Jin

[@HonestJohn_01.19]

Jins Angel form had been a direct result of the purification of his Devil gene. Of which, has since been eviscerated alongside Kazuya's during their battle just outside of Earth's atmosphere. In his words, they're merely human now, with the only character still possessing such power being Reina- unbeknownst to either of them. Jun will likely help Kazuya to redeem himself between his defeat at the hands of Jin, and the next installment- and he and Jin will fight side by side as normal people (by Tekken standards) to combat what remains of Azazel's power. As the canon currently stands with this most recent installment (just released less than a week ago, mind you) Angel Jin returning simply isn't in the cards as the Kazama's have the power of purification, not Amgelhood. The only reason why Jin was able to transform into an "Angel" was because the purification process altered/ enhanced Jins "Devil" state. Without access to that power, it can't be purified and by extension, utilized as a transformation. Ergo- no "Devil Gene", no "Angel form". As the Devil Gene had been crucial in achieving the form in the first place, with it's needing to be "purified" via his Mother/ Kazama heritage. Jin still has Kazama blood flowing through his veins, but he nolonger has the Devil Gene necessary to attain said transformation following its purification.

[@TrueReverse74]

​@@HonestJohn_01.19Doesn't mean it can't become an angel gene sometime in the future we just don't know, there was a time when kazuya and jun were "dead" but that didn't happen and we also were led to believe that jin took out the devil gene before too.

[@HonestJohn_01.19]

@@TrueReverse74 Those decisions were made LONG before the developers had a concrete narrative for the series. We're talking nearly 30 years ago. They've retconned many things over the course of several titles to create, and solidify this current narrative/ storyline. They've put alot of focus on these last two titles- with particular regard to the narrative, and how they intend to push said narrative moving forward. As it stands, what you're suggesting simply isn't in the cards. The attention to detail as it pertains to Tekken 8 is unheard of in the series. All of the pieces have been carefully put into place for the next installment. And new lore pertaining to the Mishima's, and Kazama's have been painstakingly established. An Angel Gene would simply contradict this lore. Pay closer attention to the story, it's clear as day. But, if you'd like to continue believing that it's possible- that's your right, champ'.

[@HonestJohn_01.19]

@@TrueReverse74 Also, at no point in the series had we been led to believe that the Devil Gene was eradicated. At the end of Tekken 6, it's shown that his attempt at doing just that had failed immediately following his defeat of Azazel.

[@TrueReverse74]

@@HonestJohn_01.19 I'm aware that they've retconned many things over the course of 30 years, but that doesn't change the point I made. They also made it clear as day that some of these characters are supposed to be DEAD, but changed their mind, It's not impossible for jin to just be mistaken when the story hasn't concluded. It's happened before and it can happen again, they continously introduce things to bring back old ideas and concepts. You think Devil jin is just gonna be a disregarded moveset too? My guess is that you think they'll just give his moves to reina and jin will lose everything after this game huh? But you can also believe what you want bro.

[@eamsamaraka486]

at the end of tekken 8 when kazuya is defeated a foot with sandals is appearing next to kazuya, and i didnt know what or who it could have been. but i think its angel. the sandals dont fit with anyone but angel usually wears some.

[@prospermanu205]

Do the history of devil kazuya

[@AngelJin5799]

What's the name of the song in the intro?

[@phoenixxtalonzz6650]

Damn I love unavoidable spoilers

[@axmendez1999]

It was obvious when you look at jins Devil form, he had fallen angel wings not devil wings plus with jun there was always white feathers around her. Honestly this was way better then I was expecting, the angel powers might be dormant for Jin now since he still has his mark but kazuya is cleansed for sure

[@KaijinZero]

one thing i have a question about regarding Angel's retcon. In Tekken 4, when Heihachi takes Kazuya to a chained up Jin, Devil takes over and says 'So this is where you were, my other half.' Was it referring to litterally half of his power, or was he referring to Angel with Tekken 8 in mind now?

[@TobiasSaibot87]

Half of his power

[@Xehanort10]

Story wise I always thought Angel disappeared after Tekken 2 because with the good in Kazuya gone after he absorbed his devil half into himself in 4 Angel ceased to exist too.

[@Laberyio]

Story is gonna repeat itself with reina having devil gene and maybe asuka getting angel purification power ?

[@Humtie]

It would bye cool if Jin could combine the devil and angel

[@JcgLounge]

I always thought the angelic side of Jin came from his mom, because maybe Jun and the Kazama family bloodline are descendants of Angel.

[@RockaByeYT]

it all traces back to TEKKEN 4 with Devil (controlling Kazuya) finding Jin in HONMARU. He states: "So this is where you've been....my other half--" moments before Kazuya fully takes control of Devil turning His left eye Red. Also Devil Jin has been consistently showing Yellow/Golden Eyes with every sequel materials since then, a dead giveaway.

[@galan_galantine]

Angel jin basically his devil gene combined with his latent kazama purification power. But I think angel in tekken 2 is jun essence inside of kazuya

[@LeeFeather]

Why did they leave Angel out of the scenes though?

[@nadeemjan8895]

Do hwoarang again ❤️

[@Yuemitai]

That final battle reminds me of Final Fantasy XVI

[@phoenixflameknight]

I need him as a playable character

[@sdlock83]

I think Jin and Xiaoyu's child is going to end up inheriting the "Angel gene" and use it to fight against Reina (never like that character, by the way), while Kazyua becomes the new Jinpachi. Let's hope we see another 19 year time skip for Tekken 9 lol!

[@SevenSznGaming5659]

Angel Asuka kazama vs devil Reina Mishima 😮🤔

[@rikcoflores5588]

I loved what they did with the story

[@iPharaoh54]

History behind Hworang when?

[@Catchingonlinedatersonroblox]

Is tekken over now??

[@TrueReverse74]

Are we sure the devil gene is gone? or does it just exist as an angel gene now? I know Jin said that he and kazuya were normal humans, but number 1 that would mean devil jin is gone as a character in the base roster and number 2, every other time things have been "eradicated" they still come back regardless.

[@agungxs9715]

Chaoss gene ( ange/devil gene ) for between ying Yang power btw 🤣🤣

[@thegreatbocaj]

Loving the new HBW Tekken series.

[@thegametaka]

Kazuya look like Dave Batista and Jin look like Randy orton taking revenge of someone who try to end his life.

[@frandavis1990]

Angel was in tekken 2

[@Hamilton-bm4qj]

Anyone else miss Heihachi? Bring him back!

[@dark_nightwing_xl2797]

Tekken tag 3😂

[@samtonnude941]

I miss Jinpachi😢

[@eldutcholoco1]

Anybody notice that as crazy as it seems this actually shows that heihachi was the good guy all along?

[@Rage_Templar]

Nah, Jinpachi, my homie. Though I'll give him lesser of two evils.

[@eldutcholoco1]

@@Rage_Templar he wasn't there long enough. The overarching hero heihachi cuz he was trying 2 prevent it all by getting rid of kuzuya after he realized what he would become after seeing what his wife became. Definitely a bad guy but with the narrative I just laid out u can easily see he was

[@fightingmedialounge519]

​@@eldutcholoco1 except he really wasn't. He was the one who awakened orgre in 3 to get his power and wanted the devils power for himself in 4. He isn't a hero any capacity.

[@eldutcholoco1]

@@fightingmedialounge519 thats only after he noticed he couldn't kill kazuya so would n strong enough 2 beat him. B4 his wife tried 2 kill him n his son became a devil he was just a regular business man.

[@fightingmedialounge519]

@@eldutcholoco1 no. He went after ogre in tekken three; the game where everyone thought Kazuya was dead. Also before his wife tried to kill him he buried his father alive.

[@jasongonzaga9745]

back in the days on tekken 5-6 i always use the character customize devil jin into angel jin just a "what if" type of situation that jin finally got to master his devil form and turned into angel. i guess all those costumes were hinted all along.

[@user-fu3cu8ti8q]

I'm wondering if Jin will still have his Kazama/power of purification, now that he lost his devil powers. Seems like a bit of a waste to go through all that build up, giving Jin true mastery of his devil powers for the first time, and unlocking a new form, just to lose it soon after. And now that Reina is the only one with the devil gene, who's going to stop her?

[@ginoabes3943]

Tbh I think the next game would be more about kaz than Jin since tekken 8 is pretty much harada saying sorry to all Jin mains since tekken 3. And about who would stop rein, there’s lods of dudes I could see do it in tekken 9. Jin obviously, Kazuya (probably the one who will be responsible for beating reina in tekken 9), and Lars. I mean heihachi went toe-to-toe with devil kazuya before he absorbed azazel.

[@user-fu3cu8ti8q]

@@ginoabes3943 i see what you're saying, but Heihachi is just different. I don't see many people being able stop her except for Jin and Kaz like you said. I'm obviously a Jin main, so I still want to see him heavily involved in the story, but I'll wouldn't mind seeing Kaz taking centre stage again. I would actually like to see him and Jin fight side by side against Reina.

[@agungxs9715]

​@@user-fu3cu8ti8q And yu re saying per next Tekke kaz could be pulling like 50/50 behaviour like vegeta ( DBZ ) ON story lore ?

[@bryankusoo]

Now I wonder is Angel gonna make her appearance once again

[@Yukon_83]

Ima tell my grandkids this. Was a pimp angel Jin on cráck 😂😂😂😂😂

[@rabbitinthemoon8981]

I have a theory that kazama's Blood might be descendants of the angels Kazama's can purify evil things example of this is Asuka Ending in T5

[@I_AM_CIJ]

Can you do Lars history in Tekken 8?

[@glaive616]

So angel Jin is basically Elton John.

[@trethemage]

Thumbnail spoiler 😭😭

[@AshkanAshrafi-cf9vj]

Or devil is the devil gene bu corrupted and angel is true form of devil gene cause you know devil gene comes from azazel and azazrl is a fallen angel

[@retrostendo1920]

They used all that tekken7 money on those cutscenes

[@jonahk7959]

If anyone were to gain the angel form i imagine it'd be another kazama, so id bet it'd be asuka

[@HonestJohn_01.19]

Unlikely, as Jins Angel form had been a direct result of the purification of his Devil gene. Of which, has since been eviscerated alongside Kazuya's during their battle just outside of Earth's atmosphere. In his words, they're merely human now, with the only character still possessing such power being Reina- unbeknownst to either of them. Jun will likely help Kazuya to redeem himself between his defeat at the hands of Jin, and the next installment- and he and Jin will fight side by side as normal people (by Tekken standards) to combat what remains of Azazel's power. Ergo, no "Devil Gene", no "Angel form", as the Devil Gene was necessary to achieve the form in the first place as it needed to be "purified" via his Mother/ Kazama heritage. Jin still has Kazama blood flowing through his veins, but he nolonger has the Devil Gene vital to his transformation after its having been purified.

[@kingspiffy_6mg520]

Still like devil Jin at full power tekken 5 jinpachi ending better 🎯

[@draggoon9121]

Damzz i remember angel chilling with kazuya in tekken 2. She left dad for his son... SMH

[@3cks86]

He went raw in Jun in Devil form😂😂

[@Ankhael9]

Angel never was part of kazuya's soul, even TK2 it never stated that fans just assumed that and ran with it. Harada did not recon her.

[@CAM8689]

angel and devil in tekken 2 both represented an internal struggle inside kazuya's mind anything more then that is speculation

[@Ankhael9]

@CAM8689 Katsuhiro Harada on Twitter said that's false. And even before that I knew that wasn't true because it doesn't state that no where in there TK2 bios.

[@CAM8689]

@@Ankhael9 harada was not in charge of tekken 2 nor did he come up with the story so what he says doesn't matter.....and I never said angel was a part of his soul....the story of the game is clear angel made him conflicted and that is what led to his loss as neither devil or angel could gain a victory over the other....

[@Ankhael9]

@CAM8689 dude it does matter, and still its stated by the tekken team, she does not represent anything to do with kazuya dude. Not his soul or some representive dude. And it never stated what saying in Tekken 2, what your saying is still false.

[@CAM8689]

@@Ankhael9 nothing im saying is false what harada say regarding tekken 2 does not matter he was not responisble for the story and to say she has nothing to do with kazuya.....you don't know what your talking about like at all

[@CAM8689]

early the tekken story had no confusion concerning angel and devil in that they were supernatural period.....not related to any gene foolishness

[@LuisCruz-rv9yo]

I guess angel was in Jun but form the form with Jin. Would been awesome if Angel appear to Jin and form the Angel Jin. But i guess by the space and time seeing Jins mom, she gave him hope and thats how he unlocked from devil Jin to Angel Jin. Mmmmmm makes kind of sence.

[@Angelwheel]

Angel is still my favorite character