Why Did Hungary Attack the USSR in June 1941?

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History Hustle

History Hustle

2 жыл бұрын

Hungary became a part of the Triparte Pact in November 1940 and was now one of the Axis Powers. This is how the story of Hungary during WW2 began. This didn't automatically mean the country hád to take part in the German invasion of the USSR. Yet, Hungary did take part in Operation Barbarossa. Why did the Royal Hungarian Army (Magyar Királyi Honvédség) cross the border into the Soviet Union. Actually, it wasn't the first act of military aggression. After the German invasion of Yugoslavia the Hungarian troops also marched in and took some territories. The bombing of Kassa was the direct cause for Hungary to invade the Soviet Union. Learn more about what sparked the Hungarian invasion of the Soviet Union and Hungary during World War 2
History Hustle presents: Why Did Hungary Attack the USSR in June 1941?
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- Joining Hitler's Crusade. European Nations and the Invasion of the Soviet Union, 1941 (David Stahel) Hungary (Ignác Romsic).
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@HistoryHustle
@HistoryHustle 2 жыл бұрын
Hungary's History: kzbin.info/aero/PL_bcNuRxKtpEtGSEzfxyiG6-786SXG4wf
@robertalaverdov8147
@robertalaverdov8147 2 жыл бұрын
So little known fact. When Romania and Bulgaria switched sides. Hungary was offered a similar deal and were even offered to keep parts of southern Slovakia with an ethnic Hungarian majority. Kind of how Bulgaria kept Dobruja. Stalin actually thought that the Hungarians would make good communists due to the 1919 communist takeover. However the Germans ruined any chance of them getting a favorable deal postwar via the 1944 coup. And with the bitter fighting for Budapest, the Soviets were in no mood for compromise afterwards.
@HistoryHustle
@HistoryHustle 2 жыл бұрын
That's where it came down to. Hope to cover more on this topic in the future.
@alien332
@alien332 2 жыл бұрын
The arrow-cross/SS coup happened in 1944, not in 1945!
@anonymousdetective3786
@anonymousdetective3786 2 жыл бұрын
Very interesting!
@andrashorvath6300
@andrashorvath6300 2 жыл бұрын
About who bombed Kassa: there are many theories but the most likely is that the Soviets were the ones who bombed it, but by mistake. Presov, a city in German puppet Slovakia was just 30 kms away from Kassa and was home to an important radio station of the Wehrmacht. The Soviets targeted that radio station but due to a navigational error, they ended up bombing Kassa (it was 1940s technology and there were even greater mistakes, remember, the Allies bombed Switzerland several times while targeting German cities 100-150 kms away).
@HistoryHustle
@HistoryHustle 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing your insights on this.
@connyscippio5623
@connyscippio5623 2 жыл бұрын
Its all about a Dictatorship and more territory to get traitors to fill their ranks
@billd.iniowa2263
@billd.iniowa2263 2 жыл бұрын
If it was the Soviets, why use unmarked planes?
@connyscippio5623
@connyscippio5623 2 жыл бұрын
@@billd.iniowa2263 they don't want other countries to know who dropped the bomb just like when slavery was supposed to be abolished countries flew different flags if they got caught they would chain the slaves together with a heavy weight and through it overboard challenge do your research all this crap come back to the something fucked up
@jon-paulfilkins7820
@jon-paulfilkins7820 2 жыл бұрын
I have always thought it was either a cock up on the soviets part (For you non Brits, A Cock up is kind of a 'big mistake' with a dash of 'unintended consequences' and often 'poorly planned' added in for good measure) or a false flag by 'someone'. But there is no real hard evidence either way. Evidence of a false flag? It was rather convenient for the axis and the hawks in Hungary's government that it happened. Germany had 'previous' in their dealings with Poland in the build up to their Invasion. Yes, totally circumstantial and flimsy.
@kylepracz
@kylepracz 2 жыл бұрын
I've been waiting for this video for months! Thank you!
@HistoryHustle
@HistoryHustle 2 жыл бұрын
Great 👌
@kampfgruppepeiper501
@kampfgruppepeiper501 2 жыл бұрын
Terrific video! Learned a lot, thank you History Hustle
@HistoryHustle
@HistoryHustle 2 жыл бұрын
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@terraflow__bryanburdo4547
@terraflow__bryanburdo4547 2 жыл бұрын
My neighbor was 10 when the Soviets invaded Hungary in '45 and he has many crazy stories. He says the Russians were a lot more uneducated and less civil than the Germans....not surprising. He also got strafed by the Americans when out playing in the yard. He fled to the U.S. 11 years later.
@fazole
@fazole 2 жыл бұрын
There's a book by Georg Großjohann about his war experiences, including being a POW in Russia. He said the guards counted on their fingers ir used a piece of slate to put write hash marks when counting prisoners.
@HistoryHustle
@HistoryHustle 2 жыл бұрын
Must've made a hell of an impression as a kid in that time.
@terraflow__bryanburdo4547
@terraflow__bryanburdo4547 2 жыл бұрын
@Jarod Grave And you might ask Ukrainians who lost millions in the Holodomor what they think of the "enlightgened" Soviet system.He fled an oppressive and repressive system that offered no hope or future for a young man (this also applied to Poles and Czechs who never sided with the Nazis; they were forced to accept the Soviet way). Totalitarianism is evil, whether right of left. As for my neighbor, he is not a "typical right wing reactionary" that you carry around in your tiny head; he loved Obama and voted for Biden and the Democrats.
@bgd_surf
@bgd_surf 6 ай бұрын
Of course that Soviets been more brutal then Germans, since Hungary joined nazi Germany to fight Soviets...there is nothing wrong, its called revenge. You choosed wrong side buddy.
@binder0301988
@binder0301988 8 күн бұрын
hungarian occupational troops participated in genocide
@totallymightybykrisameryck6711
@totallymightybykrisameryck6711 2 жыл бұрын
Cool. You've taugth me a MIGHTY episode I wasn't aware of until your video! This is totally new to me. Thanks for sharing! Best regards from nearby Brussels, Belgium, Kris Ameryckx
@HistoryHustle
@HistoryHustle 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks, Kris!
@xvsj5833
@xvsj5833 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent Research Stephon ✌️ have a fabulous weekend 👍
@HistoryHustle
@HistoryHustle 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks! 👍
@mikewest5529
@mikewest5529 2 жыл бұрын
Congrats on the 80k subs!! Let me learn professor!! Hope that trip has been fun! I love those short story’s! Stay healthy and safe!
@HistoryHustle
@HistoryHustle 2 жыл бұрын
Cheers! Let's go for 100K in this year:)
@AdmiralisFL
@AdmiralisFL 2 жыл бұрын
As always, legendary style of presenting, full of enthusiasm and energy :)!
@HistoryHustle
@HistoryHustle 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@kingerikthegreatest.ofall.7860
@kingerikthegreatest.ofall.7860 2 жыл бұрын
Very interesting. Hungary and Germany have had a interesting relationship over the years. At the end of both world wars, she paid a heavy price. Have you done a video on the 1956 Hungarian revolution?
@HistoryHustle
@HistoryHustle 2 жыл бұрын
Yes I do. An older one.
@snapdragon6601
@snapdragon6601 2 жыл бұрын
@@HistoryHustle Lo
@basfinnis
@basfinnis 2 жыл бұрын
Really interesting stuff. Lots of information I’ve never hear of. Thanks
@HistoryHustle
@HistoryHustle 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you, Basil!
@luxembourgishempire2826
@luxembourgishempire2826 2 жыл бұрын
Interesting video on Hungary Stefan. Keep making great videos! 👍
@HistoryHustle
@HistoryHustle 2 жыл бұрын
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@pop401k
@pop401k 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for consistently filling in my knowledge "gaps" on the details of WWII. You are the "man"!
@HistoryHustle
@HistoryHustle 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for replying 👍🏻
@icecoffee1361
@icecoffee1361 2 жыл бұрын
Another episode another fantastic history hustle 👏🏻 all so over 81k followers amazing but you have worked hard and deserve your success 👍🏻
@HistoryHustle
@HistoryHustle 2 жыл бұрын
Amazing right?! thanks for your reply!
@eleanorkett1129
@eleanorkett1129 2 жыл бұрын
Extremely interesting, especially the bombing of Kassa. Thanks for your research and presentation.
@HistoryHustle
@HistoryHustle 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you as always!👍
@Adrian-ju7cm
@Adrian-ju7cm 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video
@HistoryHustle
@HistoryHustle 2 жыл бұрын
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@teefrankenstein4340
@teefrankenstein4340 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for another great video.
@HistoryHustle
@HistoryHustle 2 жыл бұрын
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@AHOSE97HuN
@AHOSE97HuN 2 жыл бұрын
A very informative and entertaining video, and a big like for you for using the historical city/town names! Only a small correction about the pictures at 1:39 I think that was shot during September 1940 in Northern Transsylvania, you can see the hills behind the soldiers. The Bácska is a completely flat area + the trees have leaves so it is more likely it wasnt taken in early April. About the bombing of Kassa, the most probably theory is that the Soviets bombed it by mistake, they wanted to bomb some radio station in Eperjes (Presov). I read somewhere that the two cities had a very similar appearance from the sky and they are relative close to each other + maybe the Soviet pilots didnt have a correct map, that shows, that Kassa is now beloging to Hungary, not Slovakia anymore. But it is also possible that Romania bombed the town to drag Hungary into the war so it wont station its troops in Northern Transsylvania. Romania had the airplane type that time. Or it was a disguised German action for the similar reason.
@HistoryHustle
@HistoryHustle 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for taking the time to write this reply. Believe you're right about the picture. Couldn't find another one so I had to do with what is available.
@AHOSE97HuN
@AHOSE97HuN 2 жыл бұрын
@@HistoryHustle I found some archive footage about the event kzbin.info/www/bejne/gqSoYnWdls2bpNU&ab_channel=HuNGameR from 11:28
@sghxcy
@sghxcy 7 ай бұрын
​@@HistoryHustle Yes, Romania was the perpetrator. Those kind of bombs used were inavailable either German and Hungarian military stocks, but only still available in Romania (as a consequence of military armaments remained since the end of the WWI, as Romania dealt with the Russians). This was revealed by a former Hungarian military personnal who lives today in Germany. The Romanian motives were: if the crusade of the Soviet Union would fail, without Hungary's participation Romania may loose the remaining part of Transylvania, as the Soviet union would not retaliate Hungary (neither Germans as Hungary was not expected to participate). In case Hungary is dragged into the war, two options would be possible: 1, they win together with Romania, so the situation cannot get worse for Romania as it was then 2, if they loose together with Hungary as well situation cannot get worse for them, since there is still the option to switch sides and gain back Northern Transylvania. Point!
@davidraper5798
@davidraper5798 2 жыл бұрын
Interesting and nicely presented. To me it does look like Hungary was caught between a rock and a hard place, help Hitler in his "crusade" or be invaded by the Wehrmacht and at that time, with the examples of Yugoslavia etc. and Germany apparently unstoppable, their choice is not too surprising.
@HistoryHustle
@HistoryHustle 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your reply!
@fazole
@fazole 2 жыл бұрын
What if Czechoslovakia, Poland and Hungary put aside their differences and stood together against the Axis? A golden opportunity lost. Czechoslovakia kow towed, Hungary collaborated; only Poland stood up and refused, was invaded by 2 nations, betrayed by France and Great Britain and continued to fight even in the Warsaw uprising of 1944.
@johnkilmartin5101
@johnkilmartin5101 2 жыл бұрын
@@fazole both the Poles and Hungarians annexed small parts of Czechoslovakia. It is very hard to overcome ethnic strife fomented deliberately by the previous regime. This isn't unique to central Europe.
@geoeconomics3067
@geoeconomics3067 2 жыл бұрын
@@fazole Nothing would happen Poland Czeckoslovakia Hungary nothing Greatest force could be created if Germany allied herself with Russia this is the only thing that for a century scared the shit out of UK USA this is why you had these wars in Europe Part III is coming
@FeherMate
@FeherMate 2 жыл бұрын
As a Hungarian I would say that they were indeed caught between a rock and a hard place: Staying neutral or risking it all so that they have a chance for more 'revision'. There was no threat of invasion at that point, so I do believe greed was the motivating factor. But saying that Hungary did all that under duress would just absolve all those politicians from guilt.
@danubianmonarchy2839
@danubianmonarchy2839 2 жыл бұрын
Nice work :)
@HistoryHustle
@HistoryHustle 2 жыл бұрын
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@gibraltersteamboatco888
@gibraltersteamboatco888 2 жыл бұрын
An excellent piece of work. BZ. Desperate to prevent Dolphy from favoring Romania in any territorial disputes, Hungary needed a Casus Belli to join the German invasion of the USSR. As you mentioned the Germans were not overly enthusiastic on having Hungary tag along and the Soviets had no problem with them. Conveniently Kassa (a city lost due to Trianon and regained only 2 years prior) was bombed. Several references implicated Hungarian officers including Henrik Werth chief of army staff. As you stated, we will never know.
@HistoryHustle
@HistoryHustle 2 жыл бұрын
One of these remaining historical mysteries... Thanks for watching! 👍
@JohnnoDordrecht
@JohnnoDordrecht 2 жыл бұрын
Great episode
@HistoryHustle
@HistoryHustle 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@BunkersBPV
@BunkersBPV 2 жыл бұрын
Erg interessant en heb weer veel geleerd, dank je wel👍
@HistoryHustle
@HistoryHustle 2 жыл бұрын
Dank voor je bericht 👍
@philbachmann6398
@philbachmann6398 2 жыл бұрын
What we do know, is that 200K Hungarian Soldiers lay in fields around Stalingrad and that from a poorly equipped and disorganised force at the beginning of Barbarossa, the Russians emerged as a Global Power overrunning Eastern Europe.
@philbachmann6398
@philbachmann6398 2 жыл бұрын
@Fabian Kirchgessner l saw a doco where the actual field where the Hungarians are pointed out. Now I could be wrong but a Hungarian language movie I saw seemed to validate this. I did know a Rumanian who served there but the subject never came up. That said, no one wanted to be there.. The doco seemed fact based.
@philbachmann6398
@philbachmann6398 2 жыл бұрын
@Fabian Kirchgessner just did some research Fabian, the Hungarian 2nd Army was destroyed by over 80% at Stalingrad.
@philbachmann6398
@philbachmann6398 2 жыл бұрын
@Fabian Kirchgessner Just a little aside, Albert Speer's brother died horribly there in an open air hospital.
@freebozkurt9277
@freebozkurt9277 2 жыл бұрын
Among them my grandpa.
@philbachmann6398
@philbachmann6398 2 жыл бұрын
@@freebozkurt9277 so sad. In the 70s I met many people who lost family there.
@Denver_Thugits
@Denver_Thugits 2 жыл бұрын
You deserve more subs
@HistoryHustle
@HistoryHustle 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks, feel free to share.
@Albert-Arthur-Wison225
@Albert-Arthur-Wison225 2 жыл бұрын
Another piece of essential viewing !….I have often thought that, somewhat akin to Franco’s Falangist Blue Division in the USSR, Horthy and the Arrow Cross looked at Barbarossa as ‘ revenge ‘ for Bolshevik presences in their respective countries ( 1919, Hungary, 1936-39, Spain ).
@HistoryHustle
@HistoryHustle 2 жыл бұрын
Hope to cover more on that in the future.
@FeherMate
@FeherMate 2 жыл бұрын
Just a correction: Horthy the aristocrat disliked the Arrow Cross to a great degree, unlike many of others in the government, because he saw them as a political rival, with all those somewhat socialistic-sounding social policies and anti-aristocratism. Of course the distaste was mutual, especially since the self-appointed governor put many of them in prison. He was the arch-opportunist, and I would be very wary of ascribing any ideological motivation for these actions. As for the Arrow Cross, I do not claim to or even wish to understand their motivations, and I am not even sure one can understand fanatics this way.
@Kalleri13
@Kalleri13 2 жыл бұрын
Well the Soviets bombed Sweden among other things. Noting really strange when war has broken out.
@HistoryHustle
@HistoryHustle 2 жыл бұрын
Ok.
@keithlordofalbascotland3371
@keithlordofalbascotland3371 2 жыл бұрын
The swedes let the Germans use there railway to invade Norway closet nazis
@chrissandi9613
@chrissandi9613 2 жыл бұрын
I discovered your videos, Stefan, a year ago, and am I glad I did! Everything is well-researched and clearly-presented. A lot of You Tube history presenters have an annoying "homorous" style, but you've got an excellent enthusiasm - and that's all that's needed to capture the audience. Best of all is you don't take sides, but explain the events. No need for cartoon villains of evil Germans or Russians; (their deeds should help the viewer make up their own mind). Keep up this good work Stefan! P.s. how interesting the attack on Kassa. It doesn't make sense for the Russians to do that. It seems like a disguise, as the Germans did at Gleiwitz in 1939. The Germans must be suspect here?
@HistoryHustle
@HistoryHustle 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your reply, Chris!
@militaryorchid7937
@militaryorchid7937 2 жыл бұрын
First of all: nice video, thanks for your great work. Hungary only attacked Yugoslavia when it ceased to exist after Slovenians and Croatians having declared independence. They took only a small part of the former Hungarian Kingdom awarded to Serbia in 1920- the majority of that territory Hungary took back was Hungarian in population. I wonder which European country would not do at least so even today. To my knowledge, the most plausible answer to the bombardment of Kassa (Kosice) is that they were really Soviet planes. They simply missed the target- they wanted to raid Eperjes (Presov) which was in Slovakia even at that time. Slovakia was taking part in the Barbarossa operation from the start. Other possibility is that Slovakian bombers wanted to cause diplomatic turmoil. What seems to be sure: they were neither Germans nor Roumanians- none of them had airplanes of that type at that moment or if yes, they had no time to train pilots. One more thing: I am not sure whether it can be justified or just a rumour but Soviets has offered a joint attack on Roumania and Hungarian politicians (prime minister Teleki) rejected it because Hungary wanted to solve everything with the approval of the Western community (the former Entente). That's why they also rejected attacking Czechoslowakia together with the Third Empire.
@HistoryHustle
@HistoryHustle 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing your insights on this.
@AHOSE97HuN
@AHOSE97HuN 2 жыл бұрын
Romania had airplanes at that time that could bomb Kassa, Im not sure what type exactly, but some Italian type as I read somewhere. And Romania also had motivation to make Hungary jump into the war so that the whole Hungarian army wont station at Northern Transsylvania.
@militaryorchid7937
@militaryorchid7937 2 жыл бұрын
@@AHOSE97HuN Probably, yes. Some say that the planes could have taken off from Suceava but the most probable explanation seems to be a (not uncommon situation before the GPS): the planes simply got lost and raided a different city. This happened quite often that time.
@militaryorchid7937
@militaryorchid7937 2 жыл бұрын
@@AHOSE97HuN They were Russian bombers.
@sghxcy
@sghxcy 7 ай бұрын
@@militaryorchid7937 Yes, Romania was the perpetrator. Those kind of bombs used were inavailable either German and Hungarian military stocks, but only still available in Romania (as a consequence of military armaments remained since the end of the WWI, as Romania dealt with the Russians). This was revealed by a former Hungarian military personnal who lives today in Germany. The Romanian motives were: if the crusade of the Soviet Union would fail, without Hungary's participation Romania may loose the remaining part of Transylvania, as the Soviet union would not retaliate Hungary (neither Germans as Hungary was not expected to participate). In case Hungary is dragged into the war, two options would be possible: 1, they win together with Romania, so the situation cannot get worse for Romania as it was then 2, if they loose together with Hungary as well situation cannot get worse for them, since there is still the option to switch sides and gain back Northern Transylvania. Point!
@keithehredt753
@keithehredt753 2 жыл бұрын
Outstanding work brother. Love the hat. Where can I buy one in the U.S. ?
@HistoryHustle
@HistoryHustle 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks and dunno, sorry. Try check out American webshop for reenactment stuff.
@keithehredt753
@keithehredt753 2 жыл бұрын
@@HistoryHustle doing outstanding work on these little know ww2 facts. Appreciate your work sir
@HistoryHustle
@HistoryHustle 2 жыл бұрын
Great 👍
@EelkedeG
@EelkedeG 2 жыл бұрын
Interesting video! I never considered the awkward position Hungary was in, in between the Axis and Allied powers.
@HistoryHustle
@HistoryHustle 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your reply!
@theorder4592
@theorder4592 2 жыл бұрын
Well, I really enjoyed this video, it was very interesting! Also nice Hungarian flag lol!
@HistoryHustle
@HistoryHustle 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for replying!
@berendko7266
@berendko7266 2 жыл бұрын
Agreeing to be internal friends, did that too, when I was five years old. History is fascinating.
@HistoryHustle
@HistoryHustle 2 жыл бұрын
👍👍👍
@czechhistorybuff9302
@czechhistorybuff9302 2 жыл бұрын
Hey history hustle, i was thinking, do you want to make official history hustle discord? To discuss historical topics, share stories, help each other with research etc. I could help with it, but i'm just saying, it could be Interesting.
@HistoryHustle
@HistoryHustle 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks and maybe I'll do discord. Dunno if and when.
@czechhistorybuff9302
@czechhistorybuff9302 2 жыл бұрын
@@HistoryHustle As i said, i was doing discords for some time now, so if you're busy, i can create it, DM you the link and transfer ownership. I just feel that it's great way to get history hustle community together!
@HistoryHustle
@HistoryHustle 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks but no thanks. No interests at the moment. Also because I am traveling.
@czechhistorybuff9302
@czechhistorybuff9302 2 жыл бұрын
@@HistoryHustle Sure, but still, thanks for early reply as always!
@mariyanadobreva8724
@mariyanadobreva8724 2 жыл бұрын
You are progressing in Hungarian ! Congratulations !
@HistoryHustle
@HistoryHustle 2 жыл бұрын
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@lhistorien8740
@lhistorien8740 2 жыл бұрын
Another way to understand, see and learn the history of ww2! Finally a zoom on the other belligerents and allies of the Axes. Still waiting about Bulgaria
@HistoryHustle
@HistoryHustle 2 жыл бұрын
Bulgaria is covered briefly here and won't be covered anytime soon: kzbin.info/www/bejne/mmPSoIqXpNuCmpY
@andrasbeke3012
@andrasbeke3012 2 жыл бұрын
@@HistoryHustle it's a shame, because there are so few sources talking about Bulgaria in English.
@marcoskehl
@marcoskehl 2 жыл бұрын
Dank je! Obrigado! 🇧🇷
@HistoryHustle
@HistoryHustle 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks again, Marcos!
@Cjnw
@Cjnw 2 жыл бұрын
#Köszönöm!
@mariyanadobreva8724
@mariyanadobreva8724 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for another interesting video. All these territorial claims and ambitions of the Axis countries ended badly (not only for Hungary, but also for Bulgaria, Romania, Italy, and of course, Germany and Italy).
@HistoryHustle
@HistoryHustle 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Mariyana!
@mariyanadobreva8724
@mariyanadobreva8724 2 жыл бұрын
@M T I am not saying some of these claims were not legitimate, but they were not successful. And regarding Italy, chiedo scusa per la mia distrazione.
@tonnywildweasel8138
@tonnywildweasel8138 2 жыл бұрын
👍 Super ! 👍
@HistoryHustle
@HistoryHustle 2 жыл бұрын
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@Artur_M.
@Artur_M. 2 жыл бұрын
There was so much happening for me yesterday that I completely forgot to watch your video, sorry! I have never heard about those suspicious Soviet air attacks on Hungary, that provided the casus belli, interesting.
@HistoryHustle
@HistoryHustle 2 жыл бұрын
No worries! Thank you for watching and commenting 👍
@NoName-re9dk
@NoName-re9dk 2 жыл бұрын
Could you make a video about serbian collaboration units during ww2 ? Like the chetniks , serbian volunteer corps and serbians in the german army.
@HistoryHustle
@HistoryHustle 2 жыл бұрын
One day 👍🏻
@NoName-re9dk
@NoName-re9dk 2 жыл бұрын
@@HistoryHustle nice , thanks for your reply.
@HistoryHustle
@HistoryHustle 2 жыл бұрын
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@bazzakeegan2243
@bazzakeegan2243 2 жыл бұрын
Could it be possible, that the 3 aircraft which bombed Kasa,were in fact German? Once again, great feature Stefan!
@HistoryHustle
@HistoryHustle 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks! And who knows...
@xerxen100
@xerxen100 2 жыл бұрын
Almost certain, those airplanes come from Romania, because they go back to their base to south-east direction. Also Romania have a dosens of soviet bombs at that time.
@ww2hungary827
@ww2hungary827 2 жыл бұрын
Apparently the aircraft were Romanian. They were said to be Romanian operated PZL.37 Łoś bombers. (Air Battles over Hungary (1944-1945) Dmitriy Khazanov page V.
@potatofry1237
@potatofry1237 2 жыл бұрын
Nice hat. Its the join or Die mode!
@HistoryHustle
@HistoryHustle 2 жыл бұрын
Well it's more nuanced regarding Hungary.
@potatofry1237
@potatofry1237 2 жыл бұрын
@@HistoryHustle spot on in the way
@novadhd
@novadhd 2 жыл бұрын
The Hungarians, Italians, Romanians I am sure regretted making a move on Russia. My grandfather fought in the underground in Romania/Hungary.
@attilaedem101
@attilaedem101 2 жыл бұрын
From Hungarian perspective the only regretable thing remotely clsoe to this time period was to getting into the Austro-Hungarian Compromise in 1867 - everything else from that point on was a one way railway with no detour up until 1989. This include Hungary's participation against the USSR - 70% of Hungary's export AND import was directed toward Germany (and since Hungary lost all of its natural resources and access to the sea in 1920 NOT siding with Germany would just turned the nation in a sage kingdom - like North Korea is right now). The military leadership was made up by mostly germans (and most of them was part of NSDP's political organization which aimed to "unit germans abrad in support of the motherland", and Pál Teleki (the man who commited suicide) himself wrote many times in her diary to "the hungarian military act like a shadow government". Romania on the other hand fought for its own survival too. Their just lost without a single shot half of Transylvania (which was the entire point for them to participate in the Great War). Their had to also surrender Bessarabia for the Soviets (again, without a single shot). And their had to surrender some land to Bulgaria too. Germany literally strongarmed them into the war, their also had no choice. And the ironic thing is Romania had no choice, because their put Hungary into a position where Hungarians had no choice either (and Germany could hold us as the stick to beat Romania into submission). Italy was on the other hand been a mistery for me for a LONG while. Their given upon their great relation with the UK, their could have EASILY stayed out of the war and we know Mussolini didnt actually had a good opinion about Hitler either. I never understood why their joined the war in the first place.
@HistoryHustle
@HistoryHustle 2 жыл бұрын
What can you tell us about his experiences? Did you ever meet him?
@novadhd
@novadhd 2 жыл бұрын
@@HistoryHustle Sure I grew up with him around a lot. He was quite a character. He was from Transylvania and had some funny stories and some sad ones. Not sure how / where he resistance movement activities started but one thing he mentioned was planting a bomb in a drum during a Nazi or Hungarian parade. He was treated as a a political prisoner but was Jewish. He managed to get around that but still when thru the camp system where he was eventually liberated from Mauthausen.
@HistoryHustle
@HistoryHustle 2 жыл бұрын
Interesting to read. Many thanks for sharing!
@chrissandi9613
@chrissandi9613 2 жыл бұрын
I discovered your videos, Stefan, a year ago, and I'm so glad I did. Your presentation is detailed and but also clear; there are too many history presenters on You Tube who use "humour", but it is annoying and makes fun of the history. You are enthusiastic, and that's all we need to enjoy the stories. Best of all = you don't take sides. No need to make cartoon villains of ""Nazis" and "Communists"; their deeds can make the viewer make up their own mind. Keep it going! P.s., how interesting about the attack on Kassa. It doesn't make sense for Russia to do that. Seems like a German ruse, like at Gleiwitz in 1939.
@HistoryHustle
@HistoryHustle 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks, Chris!
@tamasbalogh7535
@tamasbalogh7535 2 жыл бұрын
Many people think so that Prime Minister Pal Teleki did not committed suicide really. The real story was as follows : An officer of the German Army that wanted to attack Yugoslavia at that time who had a strict order to get permission from Teleki at all costs - he feared that Teleki will refuse to allow German Army to march across Hungarian territory to Yugoslavia. So he simply shoot down the Hungarian Prime Minister. The German officer was the last visitor on the day of death of Teleki at the residence of Prime Minister. Hungarian secret service was not allowed to declare that friendly German army officer killed Hungarian Prime Minister so a declaration was officially issued to the public that it was a suicide and the spot of murder was duly arranged. Teleki may have been refused to give permission for Germans to march across so he had to die.
@HistoryHustle
@HistoryHustle 2 жыл бұрын
Interesting theory. Lemme know you source on this.
@hdanielnoble6572
@hdanielnoble6572 2 жыл бұрын
I lived many years in Ivano- Frankivsk and the surrounding oblast and never heard of Hungry bombing the city. It was always, always the Germans.
@HistoryHustle
@HistoryHustle 2 жыл бұрын
Okay! Hope to cover more on Hungary's part in the attack on the USSR.
@philbachmann6398
@philbachmann6398 2 жыл бұрын
We can't ignore the fact that Reinhard Heydrich had close ties with the Luftwaffe, being an accomplished pilot himself. Of all the Nazi High Command, it could be argued that it was the most pro Nazi. The vested interests in provoking war in Germany were enormous. The total ruthlessness of these times beggars belief. My only conclusion for this behaviour is that WW1 had so traumatised the people of Europe, sporning these ruthless ideologies. .
@HistoryHustle
@HistoryHustle 2 жыл бұрын
WW1 surely contributed to WW2.
@fazole
@fazole 2 жыл бұрын
I don't think you meant "spurning", which means turn away from; reject.
@philbachmann6398
@philbachmann6398 2 жыл бұрын
@@fazole spelling mistake, I meant "sporning", sometimes the spell check has its own mind!
@kevio6868
@kevio6868 2 жыл бұрын
Do you have any vid on Tito Marshall? He was quite the stalwart
@HistoryHustle
@HistoryHustle 2 жыл бұрын
Search on the channel please..there is one.
@Ar-Rahman61
@Ar-Rahman61 2 жыл бұрын
Fascinated by the other Axis combatants and I would love to know why there was never traction for the restoration of Austria-Hungary.
@HistoryHustle
@HistoryHustle 2 жыл бұрын
Think that nationalism prevented that combined with bad memories of that time.
@demonprinces17
@demonprinces17 2 жыл бұрын
Don't like each other
@FeherMate
@FeherMate 2 жыл бұрын
@@HistoryHustle It is important to realize all that nostalgia for Austria-Hungary happened after the dissolution of that union and the later crises after Trianon. At the time (before 1914), the so-called " '48 supporters" won the elections several times, requiring quite anti-democratic and illegal strategies from the Habsburg supporters in order to avoid those people forming a government and trying to reduce the power of the Habsburgs over Hungary. The period after 1900 is quite interesting in that regard, with the constant scandals and tension.
@nickpapagiorgio5056
@nickpapagiorgio5056 2 жыл бұрын
Loved this video prof Stefan! All of your videos show in depth and important parts of history that are rarely discussed in text books these days. My educated guess on the bombing of Kassa is that it was staged by the axis powers and most likely Germany to look like Russian aggression to give the Hungarians the green light on joining Barbarossa. As you said yourself there is really no strategic reasoning for Russia to bomb Kassa themselves but there is for axis powers to ignite a campaign on the Hungarian front. Just like the attack on the radio tower that was staged on the border with Poland by Germany to start that invasion.
@HistoryHustle
@HistoryHustle 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks again for your reply Nick!
@nickkozanas1147
@nickkozanas1147 2 жыл бұрын
Or it was the Hungarians themselves to justify joining the invasion
@nickpapagiorgio5056
@nickpapagiorgio5056 2 жыл бұрын
@@nickkozanas1147 very true and probably would make more sense that Germany suggested and Hungary executed the planned staging of a bombing run I just wasn’t sure if Hungary had an Air Force at the time to make it happen on their own.
@sghxcy
@sghxcy 7 ай бұрын
@@nickpapagiorgio5056 No, Romania was the perpetrator. Those kind of bombs used were inavailable either German and Hungarian military stocks, but only still available in Romania (as a consequence of military armaments remained since the end of the WWI, as Romania dealt with the Russians). This was revealed by a former Hungarian military personnal who lives today in Germany. The Romanian motives were: if the crusade of the Soviet Union would fail, without Hungary's participation Romania may loose the remaining part of Transylvania, as the Soviet union would not retaliate Hungary (neither Germans as Hungary was not expected to participate). In case Hungary is dragged into the war, two options would be possible: 1, they win together with Romania, so the situation cannot get worse for Romania as it was then 2, if they loose together with Hungary as well situation cannot get worse for them, since there is still the option to switch sides and gain back Northern Transylvania. Point!
@surinfarmwest6645
@surinfarmwest6645 2 жыл бұрын
German planes with red stars flown by Yugoslavians...... ? No? With all the skulduggery that goes on in war I expect the truth will be even more bewildering. Very interesting Stefan.
@HistoryHustle
@HistoryHustle 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you Surin!
@farhanrahman7119
@farhanrahman7119 2 жыл бұрын
Tbh tho im an enthusiast ive never heard of this before💯
@HistoryHustle
@HistoryHustle 2 жыл бұрын
Great!
@billd.iniowa2263
@billd.iniowa2263 2 жыл бұрын
Me too. I learn something new every day. Between Military History Visualized, TIK, Stephan, And the World War Two channel I get informed daily.
@philbachmann6398
@philbachmann6398 2 жыл бұрын
The bombing of Kassa may have been a provocation by the German SD, this has all the hallmarks one of its operations. Also, the failed Molotov mission adds fuel to Putin's arguments that the Germans were encouraged. As you rightly assert Stefan, we will never know the truth.
@duhni4551
@duhni4551 2 жыл бұрын
Hitler pretty much had plans to invade Soviet Union sooner or later, the same as he had plans to attack USA no matter did USA take part to war or not. Those times were politically unstable, there were lots of ideologies around and all of them wanted to be the one in power.
@fazole
@fazole 2 жыл бұрын
@@duhni4551 Where is the evidence Hitler had plans to attack the USA? It's a preposterous idea; Germany never planned to even attack England. They had no long range heavy bombers until the very end of the war--and only 2 were built. Hitler wanted the USSR so he could achieve autarky, obtain more land and exterminate slavs and others. The USA was to be Japan's problem. FDR ordered the USN to aid the British in finding and sinking U-boots and he declared almost the entire N. Atlantic as US territorial waters. Hitler just decided it was time to end the pretense of US neutrality and declare war. This is all verifiable.
@duhni4551
@duhni4551 2 жыл бұрын
@@fazole It is well documented, he had multiple programs to develop means to attack USA. And yes, long range heavy bombers were one of those programs, not just ordinary ones as Hitler wanted the planes to be able to carry nukes, that is what started jet program in Nazi Germany. There were even functioning proto types of these jets. Hitler wanted to stop Soviets since he knew what Stalin had in mind, so there were 2 nuts wanting the same thing. The war between the 2 was inevitable. And all i mentioned here has been verified also, so go figure. Maybe there are more reasons for what countries does than just one?
@luxbeci2
@luxbeci2 2 жыл бұрын
Not proof Who bomb és attacked Kassa…
@HistoryHustle
@HistoryHustle 2 жыл бұрын
Indeed Phil, one of these questions we most likely never get the answer from.
@bobross8786
@bobross8786 2 жыл бұрын
Very simple join or get the Polish treatment P . S . Love your Videos 👍
@HistoryHustle
@HistoryHustle 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks, Bob!
@williamguest6787
@williamguest6787 2 жыл бұрын
Very informative video, I'm glad to see a video on smaller belligerents of ww2
@HistoryHustle
@HistoryHustle 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you. More of this will appear on the channel!
@hunguy3280
@hunguy3280 2 жыл бұрын
Historically speaking Hungary did not join Germany in the initial attack on Yugoslavia, it actually refused the request by Germany. However when the Yugoslav Government collapsed due to the general advance of the German Army, Hungary did invade to protect the ethnic Hungarians living in the Bácska Region that was formally part of the Kingdom of Hungary. The Prime Minister Mr. Pal Teleki did commit suicide as soon as the Regent authorized the entry of Hungarian troops into this Region, which was technically no longer part of Hungary, but it was heavily populated by ethnic Hungarians. But as explained, there was no resistance to this invasion due to the fact that the Yugoslav Government no longer controlled the area due to their collapse. There was a power vacuum in the Country and citizens of former Hungary had to be protected. It is also true that this Region was subsequently was annexed by Hungary.
@HistoryHustle
@HistoryHustle 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for providing this information.
@georgekaragiannakis6637
@georgekaragiannakis6637 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you again Stefan for another interesting and controversial part of WW 2 history. There’s no doubt the Hungarians were itching to get into the war against Russia and this sounds like a convenient event. I’ve read secondary sources that in his memoirs, Admiral Miklós Horthy, Hungary's head of state up to 1944, stated that Hungary's entry into the war against the Soviet Union had been provoked by the "staged" bombing of Kassa carried out by German pilots. Not having read his memoirs is this correct?
@HistoryHustle
@HistoryHustle 2 жыл бұрын
Could be, not sure. As of today there were many speculations. Thanks for watching, George!
@ww2hungary827
@ww2hungary827 2 жыл бұрын
Interesting video! It was a useless campaign on the part of the Hungarians who sent ~ 200,00 men equipped with outdated technologies.
@HistoryHustle
@HistoryHustle 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for replying!
@wonderfluff4830
@wonderfluff4830 2 жыл бұрын
It is also possible that the soviets bombed the two town for mistake. The state border was fairly close to the german soviet front line and the bomber crew got lost a bit on their mission.
@HistoryHustle
@HistoryHustle 2 жыл бұрын
Could be yes.
@vaxuvax
@vaxuvax 2 жыл бұрын
The problem with Hungary was its elites (aristocracy and politicians) that were dreaming of restoring medieval kingdom of Hungary without realising that many things had changed in 400 years. Austria on the other hand was more diplomatic in its approach of minorities. So as long as you respected the laws and the Emperor ,the empire was tolerant with you. On the other hand the Hungarian part of the Austro-Hungarian empire wanted that the slavs and romanians to become hungarians by force ,a delusion that in that age of nationalism failed dramatically. When the Empire colapsed after WW1, Hungary found itself surrounded by enemies and without a friend fighting on multiple fronts with the slavs and romanians.
@HistoryHustle
@HistoryHustle 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching this one.
@egoalter1276
@egoalter1276 28 күн бұрын
Imdeed, the thinking of the hungarian elite during the era of the dual monarchy was very archaic. Though not exactly out of character. France for example did the exact same thing, only a century or so eaelier. Amd the less said about the IS and British, the better.
@mammuchan8923
@mammuchan8923 2 жыл бұрын
Great video as always⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️ Spoiler alert - the Soviets will get their revenge later
@HistoryHustle
@HistoryHustle 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks as always for watching!
@dennisroyhall121
@dennisroyhall121 2 жыл бұрын
Very good and well done for your presentation observations. As a life-long student of history and especially of WW2 and 20th Century politics and social upheavals I have the following reflections, observations and questions: ( i ) thoughts and surprise at the unsolved mystery of the bombing of the Hungarian town : without wishing to award any credit points to the USSR - we know of their capabilities as regards Finland and Poland (Katyn) - but I think they were to much embedded with their Ribbentrop/Molotov Pact…even impatient with their wish to do more trade with the Third Reich… Frankly, it seems to me too much like a Nazi cook-up along the lines of their invasion of Poland, leaving dead bodies around dressed up in Polish uniforms ie bits and pieces of bombs with USSR indications of manufacture, and all to get the Hungarians on board for the attack on Russia. ( ii ) Both Romania and Hungary were rife with rival fascist parties, Romania more so than Hungary, and this despite or as a result of King Carol’s impatience of democratic politics - parliamentary democracy’s darkest hours everywhere because of inability to take resolute action to stem rightful expectations of the poorer classes for better “rewards” for their pains….; then how come Carol “accepted “ the Hitlerite “settlement diktat” of the Transylvanian province in favour of Hungary? ( nb right, the area population was largely Hungarian but the Province historically reflected the old Roman Province of Dacia of which Romania prided itself of being the inheritrix). Somewhere in my memory I think I read that Hitler quelled Romanian objections with promises of territorial reward compensations ie retrieval of Northern Bukorovnia and Bessarabia taken ( at least the latter ) with Hitler’s assent by USSR and the former taken beneath his nose ie without his consent….and other areas of Russia with Romania’s contributory participation in the forthcoming invasion against USSR Bolshevism….All right, Romania was “geographically out on a limb”, and few plus no one could help her oppose the ambitions of one so determined as Hitler at the time riding high with his triumph over the Western democracies, France beaten to collaborative, submission, Britain on our own with Empire, yet with barely an army to speak of on her side of the Channel, and the rest taken up in battles against the Italians in both East and North Africa, with the whole of the Vichy French Empire thereabouts ready to oppose if not to even assist Italy and Germany should they demand this…which they did, in Syria, willing to help Germany weaken Britain in Iraq….and later willing to let Japanese submarines shelter - and threaten - South Africa, with their supportive Zero fighter bombers flying unchallenged over Vichy French Madagascar. ( iii ) Your mention of the Prime Minister of Hungary who committed suicide…I had never read of this before…Of what political persuasion was he, given that Hungary too, like Romania, was riven by fascist governmental groups? ( iv ) Unless I have missed something, you make no mention of the counter-stroke of Yugoslav military circles against their Prince Regent Paul’s alignment to Hitler’s invitation of “ordinary ie not unfriendly co-operation” between the kingdom of Yugoslavia whose King Carol-like authoritarian strong-arm manner King Alexander had been brutally assassinated when on visit to France….[ by Croatian thugs in the pay of Mussolini ] - perhaps it was this that finally persuaded Carol to withdraw while yet alive than fall heroic victim to the fascist hyena…like Alexander…But to Yugoslavia in 1941 ….the USSR had but a week or so before concluded a pact of co-operation and mutual assistance with the Kingdom, and apparently this had got up Hitler’s nose since the Russians hadn’t asked his opinion, let alone his permission. What are your thoughts on this? ( v ) In similar vein but further away, Bulgaria which had also “retrieved” its pre1914-18 Dobruja region, was proving not to be totally warm as regards Hitler’s plans, formulating that the Country would never ever war against Russia…but it did against Greece “retrieving “ its Thracian province and the second largest city of Greece Salonica by its Axis alignment with Hitler against both Yugoslavia and Greece. ( vi ) Certainly the Balkans Region is a motley, rough and sticky area for which the Ottomans and Turkey have much to blame… [ and the Turks are still at it, leading they are “Europeans”… Your thoughts on this? ( vi ) Finally the Hungarian leader managed to conclude not an unreasonable peace agreement with Stalin, but at a terrible cost to its Jewish population who had somehow managed to be left alone ….until then…. ( vii ) the Nazis wreaked havoc and terror upon the Hungarians - in punishment for their change of heart… and later the Russians would add their capacity for evil doing totally, wilfully, or blindly doing harm to decent souls doing their best, like the Swedish diplomat whose fate has never been acknowledged by any of the present Russian hierarchy… Thanks for your comments and good wishes for success. ps re the bombing of Kassa, given this took place on 26th June 1941, I revise my point ( i ) given the state of war between Hungary and the USSR that it must have been a Soviet bombing attack…
@HistoryHustle
@HistoryHustle 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Dennis, Sorry for the late reply. Here my response. ( i ) I understand. ( ii ) Thanks for sharing this. More on Romania in the future. ( iii ) From what I understand is that he did this to make sure Hungary's top politician(s) didn't want this but they were kinda forced by Germany to invade Yugoslavia. ( iv ) Here is my video about the Axis invasion of Yugoslavia and it's prelude: kzbin.info/www/bejne/hni6g5yEbr5nrMk ( v ) More on Bulgaria and Greece in the future. ( vi ) Not read much yet about this, so can't tell. ( vi ) Here my video on Hungary's Arrow Cross State: kzbin.info/www/bejne/hZKyiZmtlqZjfdk ( vii ) Please check the video above.
@egoalter1276
@egoalter1276 28 күн бұрын
Hungary was a conatitutional monarchy with the Christian Democrat party firmly in control, with Social Democrats in second place. Fascist and Communist parties both existed, but both were very minor, and occasionally outlawed. Hungary did see a high turnover of prime ministers, but at no point was it ruled by decree directly by Horthy. The takeover of the fascist arrow cross party only happened as a german puppet gowernment with assistamce by the nazos, after the nazi occupation in late autumn 1944. Hungary was quiet simply not a fascist country, and the fascist movement was not especially widespread or popular. Most foreign policy focused on revision of the peace treaty of trianon to return hungarian majority territories, and reproachment with the west, which was seen as the way for economic prosperity, industrialization, and political security. Hungary was seeking a defensive alliance with Great Britain as late as 1941.
@kiwimedic319
@kiwimedic319 2 жыл бұрын
A suggestion for a future topic - why did Britain and France not declare war on the Soviet Union when Poland was invaded?
@HistoryHustle
@HistoryHustle 2 жыл бұрын
Please type this question in YT search bar and there are already two well made vids on it by other creators.
@olikazombika4532
@olikazombika4532 2 жыл бұрын
my great grandfather was a air defense soldier at the bombing of Kassa and they were told not to shoot because they are friendly planes even after they dropped the bombs interesting
@olikazombika4532
@olikazombika4532 2 жыл бұрын
oh yeah and by look and shape and sound the planes where German
@HistoryHustle
@HistoryHustle 2 жыл бұрын
Interesting, thank you for sharing this.
@olikazombika4532
@olikazombika4532 2 жыл бұрын
@@HistoryHustle wow thanks for reacting means a lot
@hunguy3280
@hunguy3280 2 жыл бұрын
It is true that the Bombing of Kassa did create a lot of speculation as to who did the Bombing, who was responsible for this aggressive provocation. For the record there was major suspicion that Rumanian planes may have been responsible, due to the fact that the planes did fly in a South Easterly direction towards the Rumanian Border. As History Hustle explained, Rumania was in the process of committing a large force for the invasion of the Soviet Union on the side of Germany, but at the same time it also feared that Hungary may invade Southern Transylvania which was still part of Rumania. Thus it was in her interest that Hungary should also commit a large force against the Soviets in order to reduce substantial Hungarian Army concentration or capability which may be used against her.
@HistoryHustle
@HistoryHustle 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing your insights on this.
@bursegsardaukar
@bursegsardaukar 2 жыл бұрын
Hmmm. Yugoslavia, France and Netherlands have the same flags. You just have to turn it sideways and upside down like that scene in the movie Lord of War.
@HistoryHustle
@HistoryHustle 2 жыл бұрын
Ah yes.
@billd.iniowa2263
@billd.iniowa2263 2 жыл бұрын
Three unmarked planes?! Did the Soviets deny doing this? If they did, it wouldnt surprise me if it was Germany trying to push Hungary into declaring war on the Soviets. I wouldnt put it passed them.
@FeherMate
@FeherMate 2 жыл бұрын
They did deny it, but you would deny making such a mistake anyways, I mean they had zero incentive to provoke Hungary. I also do not believe it was the Germans doing it, since discovery would be a great diplomatic problem for them, and it was apparently totally unnecessary: the Hungarians did not even wait for the results of their inquiries or any explanation, just declared war the next day. That is the behaviour of someone who was just looking for an excuse to do something they have already decided to do, regardless of who else did what.
@HistoryHustle
@HistoryHustle 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for explaining Fehér.
@getupa1424
@getupa1424 2 жыл бұрын
És mán megint egy újabb videó. Jaj istenem, ez köllött, hogy ríjak?
@HistoryHustle
@HistoryHustle 2 жыл бұрын
English please.
@getupa1424
@getupa1424 2 жыл бұрын
@@HistoryHustle csak lököm, hogy kösz hogy foglalkozol velünk. I mean thanks for uploading videos of our nation
@HistoryHustle
@HistoryHustle 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for replying!
@nerozero8266
@nerozero8266 2 жыл бұрын
👍
@HistoryHustle
@HistoryHustle 2 жыл бұрын
👍
@Zolega89
@Zolega89 2 жыл бұрын
I wish I never found out the truth about Trianon :( But of course, in Hungary, that is nearly impossible :(
@HistoryHustle
@HistoryHustle 2 жыл бұрын
I can understand.
@walsch80
@walsch80 2 жыл бұрын
Hungary is a country that paid too much after WWI. Many territories were given to Romania, Jugoslavia, Russia and Czechoslovakia.. Millions hungarians were cut off from their homeland. Still nowadays in Slovakia or Romania you can count millions of hungarian speakers. In Transilvânia for exemple I found a town were people spoken just hungarian. And historically Hungary is related with the German area. Politically and ideologically. Still nowadays hungarians are on the right side... But I can grant you that Hungary is a beautiful place with a great way of life. Not like in other places in western Europe. There state is working for the people, not only for the EU.
@inasatok
@inasatok 2 жыл бұрын
@Fabian Kirchgessner The only involvement Hungary had in the holocaust is slowing it down by not letting Germany to use our railways for a while, and by hiding Polish people. other than that there was no Hungarian involvement, as the holocaust was mainly done by the SS which was a purely german force almost through the entire war.
@walsch80
@walsch80 2 жыл бұрын
@Fabian Kirchgessner unfortunately antisemitism was common in all Europe at the time. Especially in east Europe. You should understand that time. All richest persons were Jewish and many of them ruled economy. That economy that was raped many times in ex imperial Germany and K.u.K. Ukrainians too are with a deep hate against the Jewish. Do you know why? For the Holomodor. Try to search what was and why arrived. Bolcheviques were for a big part with Jewish roots. Lenin, Trotsky, Cederbaum were just some of the leaders. I want say that Hungary paid too much. Trianon was a crime. Like was a crime the street choice for Hungary after WWII. A forced communism. As like was a crime the invasion of Hungary from URSS during the rebellion for freedom and democracy during the '50s. Now all talk in a wrong way about Orban. But Orban is a leader chosen by 70% of Hungarians. Don't forget it. And his political views are clear. It's one of the few politicians able to declare mr. Schwartz (Soros) a criminal. Because he is a criminal. Why I say this? I could say it because the behavior used against my country (Italy) in first 90s were he destroyed our Lira and economy, because he is behind the mass immigration but no. He is a criminal for his youth. He was a spy for SS. He was able to sell other jews to obtain money and protection.
@kkkkk9815
@kkkkk9815 2 жыл бұрын
@Fabian Kirchgessner wait till you find out Horty stoped the deportations of Jews from Budapest for like 8 months and took in many polish refuges after Germany invaded Hungary they installed a nzi leader and that’s the reasson
@HistoryHustle
@HistoryHustle 2 жыл бұрын
@walsch80: I agree, Hungary is a wonderful country, but stating it's great and other western European countries aren't goes a little too far for me.
@kkkkk9815
@kkkkk9815 2 жыл бұрын
@@HistoryHustle they are the average gdp per capita is like 8k while Hungary is 15k Poland 16k more than 1,3 billion live in India with a gdp per capita of like 2500 to the average word it’s good in fact not all countries should be compared to the west India has more population than Europe+ usa+ Canada combined so as you can see it’s good for the average
@yumbam5546
@yumbam5546 2 жыл бұрын
Romania also lost the Eastern part of Moldova,the northern part of Bukovina to the USSR and southern Dobruja to Bulgaria. Even though the map clearly shows those territories as "lost" he forgets to talk about those lol
@HistoryHustle
@HistoryHustle 2 жыл бұрын
Read the title. I also have covered this in other videos.
@yumbam5546
@yumbam5546 2 жыл бұрын
@@HistoryHustle Sorry, my bad. Peace🖖
@ericcarlson3746
@ericcarlson3746 2 жыл бұрын
(I thought) Hitler didn't want to invade Yugoslavia until the amenable government was toppled and replaced with an anti axis regime....
@HistoryHustle
@HistoryHustle 2 жыл бұрын
More on that later 👍
@prdubi
@prdubi 2 жыл бұрын
I think Hungary could have done what Spain did and was just allow volunteers to join the war effort, Hungary's military wasn't up to date with modern equipment and Horthy could have told Hitler that quite easily. We don't have the equipment and capacity. Germany could have absorbed and even could have created a Hungarian legion to join the crusade against communism just like they did with the Spanish Blue division.
@HistoryHustle
@HistoryHustle 2 жыл бұрын
Think Spain had a better geographical position to get away like this. If you're interested, here is my take on the Spanish Blue Division: kzbin.info/www/bejne/i2m4g4ONaqqIfLM
@Kyanzes
@Kyanzes 2 жыл бұрын
The bombing of Kassa could have been any of these: 1) mistaken bombing by Soviets (navigation issue, I can't really imagine them doing it deliberately, there was nothing to gain by it) 2) German provocation, that is, to provide a casus belli to the Hungarians 3) Internally planned provocation, done by Hungarian agents. To provide the casus belli. But frankly, in situations like this, usually the country being attacked either asks for reparations or maybe strikes back in about equal measure. Obviously, a full fledged invasion is not justified due to a single bombing. I have a feeling it's the second. As usual, Hungary once more joined the "wrong side of history". Our faith is either to join the wrong side or getting obliterated. The country is in an unfortunate political position. Right in-between the West and the East. Has been all throughout history. Poland is in a similar situation.Romania and Slovakia have similar history. As for Croatia and Serbia: they have their own local problem going on for centuries. Good video, thank you!
@HistoryHustle
@HistoryHustle 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing your insights.
@haunebu8135
@haunebu8135 2 жыл бұрын
There is a legend that the Soviet pilots who bombed Kassa had only outdated maps on their planes on which Kassa (then Kosice) was still part of (Czecho)slovakia and none of the maps showed the new borders of the First Vienna Award. So the Soviets believed that they were bombing Slovak targets (the USSR was already at war with Slovakia). But this is probably just a myth. I haven't found much info about it and I only heard this story from a friend. True or false, this incident (or Soviet mistake) was believed as an act of clear Soviet aggression and convinced the Hungarian government and the people that the war against the USSR is justified which resulted in the death of one million Hungarian citizens during the war.
@duhni4551
@duhni4551 2 жыл бұрын
Sounds solid theory. After all, Russians have issues to know their borders even today, given they keep flying in Finnish and Swedish air space every now and then =D
@HistoryHustle
@HistoryHustle 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing.
@vincentkosik403
@vincentkosik403 2 жыл бұрын
Slovaks too..the Slavic wedge!
@HistoryHustle
@HistoryHustle 2 жыл бұрын
Hope to cover more on Slovakia in the future.
@vincentkosik403
@vincentkosik403 2 жыл бұрын
@@HistoryHustle thank you if you do...many were pro axis and anti communist because of their Catholic faith
@demonprinces17
@demonprinces17 2 жыл бұрын
If the germans did do a black ops ( they had captured Soviet gear ) the secret is still secret, did the soviets send them a message?
@HistoryHustle
@HistoryHustle 2 жыл бұрын
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@demonprinces17
@demonprinces17 2 жыл бұрын
@@HistoryHustle it's when a factory or a building that's doing something another country doesn't like and gets accidentally bombed or has a mystery fire
@demonprinces17
@demonprinces17 2 жыл бұрын
During the veitnam war Finland sold the US 7.62 Russian ammo til the plant had a fire then they stopped
@johnthomson6507
@johnthomson6507 2 жыл бұрын
Bet you horthy regretted that one very quickly.
@HistoryHustle
@HistoryHustle 2 жыл бұрын
As the war progressed yes.
@84rb
@84rb 2 жыл бұрын
The planes that bombed Kassa belonged to the USSR - it is a widely accepted fact by historians in Hungary. The fregments of the bombs were inspected and they had Russian markings on them. It is also belived by most historans that this bombing was a navigational mistake and not Hungary was the target originally. Germany had little interest getting Hungary into the war: the Hungarian Armed Forces were weak, the war against the USSR seemed to be a fast and easy campaign at the beginning. Even with these bombings, joining the war against the USSR was not neceserry - more relaxed diplomatic action would have been enough. Unfortunatly most of the political elit were "German oriented" and they feared that they might lose the (re)gained territories, if the Romanians support Germany's war much more than Hungary does. Germany were undefeated until that point while the USSR seem to be weak according the Red Army's performence in Finland. It seemed to be a low risk enterprise, so the government pushed Horthy to declare war. It was not that, hard as Horthy was a die-hard anti-bolshevik.
@HistoryHustle
@HistoryHustle 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing your insights on this.
@kondorviktor
@kondorviktor 2 жыл бұрын
Hi. A little thing. 'S' in Magyar i s as in sugar, or as 'sch' in Schmidt, or 'ś' in Kośice. When then doubled, like in Bárdossy's name, or Kassa, it sounds 'schsch'. Aast u b.
@HistoryHustle
@HistoryHustle 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks. Gotta work on my Hungarian:)
@Chrizz06041980
@Chrizz06041980 2 жыл бұрын
Maybe the bombing of the city of Kassa/Košice/Kaschau/Kascha was meant in a similar way like the Germans did with the radio station of Gliwice/Gleiwitz in 1939 but not as an open told propaganda. With the cyrillic letters on the bombers the Hungarians should be made to believe that it was an attack by the USSR without a declaration of war and so convince them that it should be only an act of self defense of Hungary in attacking the USSR.
@HistoryHustle
@HistoryHustle 2 жыл бұрын
Interesting comparison.
@Stormbringer2012
@Stormbringer2012 2 жыл бұрын
Stalin ordered the bombing of Hungary as a deterrent. He bombed Sweden in the Finish-Soviet winter war for the very same reason. While it worked against the Swedes, it had the opposite effect with Hungary.
@HistoryHustle
@HistoryHustle 2 жыл бұрын
Feel free to share your source on this.
@Stormbringer2012
@Stormbringer2012 2 жыл бұрын
@@HistoryHustle Apparently everytime I send you the source, juhtube deletes my reply. Imagine that.
@Stormbringer2012
@Stormbringer2012 2 жыл бұрын
@@HistoryHustle In a book called Sweden in ww2 "Across Borders" Soviet bombs fell on the Swedish town Pajala Kyrkby in early 1940, apparently by mistake. [s05]
@HistoryHustle
@HistoryHustle 2 жыл бұрын
Okay, thanks for sharing this.
@puzzled012
@puzzled012 2 жыл бұрын
hm, maybe the reason was the same as the one for invading Yugoslavia two and a half months earlier? you know - land...
@HistoryHustle
@HistoryHustle 2 жыл бұрын
Please watch the video.
@egoalter1276
@egoalter1276 28 күн бұрын
No? Not only did hungary not have territorial claims against the USSR, it didnt svsn border it.
@dr.barrycohn5461
@dr.barrycohn5461 2 жыл бұрын
Great presentation. I love your nazi hat. Hungary as I knew of it, was about sending it being extremely antisemitic and handle over their Jewish populous without batting an eye. Maybe you can do a presentation on the righteous Carl Lutz who was a Swiss diplomats to saved thousands of Jewish people by declaring those people; particularly children as under the Swedish government (I think). He may have not been well known as well as Schlinder and his famous eponymous list. But, Lutz saved way more people even if many were Hungarian children.
@HistoryHustle
@HistoryHustle 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your reply. My hat was meant to look like a Hungarian one. Wouldn't call it a nazi hat since it bears no insignia. About the topic you suggest: perhaps in the future on day. Cannot tell when.
@egoalter1276
@egoalter1276 28 күн бұрын
Hungary did not hand over its jewish population until it was occupied by hermany, and placed under rule of a fascist puppet government. What it did was pass lws that limited the percentage of jewish students in higher education, and ownership of private businesses. Both antisemitic, yes, but both meant to allow for non jewish citizens a better chance at university education and entrepeneourship, as both areas were traditionally dominated by the much more cosmopolitan jewish population.
@mentonschekulin2985
@mentonschekulin2985 2 жыл бұрын
1:27 some pepole thinks that the germans killed Teleki Pál because he was against the war
@HistoryHustle
@HistoryHustle 2 жыл бұрын
I've read these speculations also yes.
@sirdarklust
@sirdarklust 2 жыл бұрын
Could the Soviet planes have veered off course and accidentally bombed Kassa, instead of they intended target? have the bomb fragments survived for examination to see if they really were Soviet in origin? Could it have been the Germans or Hungarians who did it in order to rationalize a Hungarian declaration of war? Seems odd that the Hungarians would jump right into the war after a small bombing without asking the Soviets to make good for the bombing, first. Only if the Soviets refused, could they have declared war justifiably. Smells like a setup, like occurred to justify the invasion of Poland by the Germans. Thanks for the video and take care.
@duhni4551
@duhni4551 2 жыл бұрын
Personally, i don't see any real reason why Soviets would have bombed Hungary intentionally, specially when they were in the situation where they were during the time. I would lean to think that it was German / Hungarian plot to give Hungary a reason to attack Soviet Union.
@sirdarklust
@sirdarklust 2 жыл бұрын
@@duhni4551 Agreed. If you were accidentally bombed, you'd first ask for an official investigation and/or reparations before declaring war.
@duhni4551
@duhni4551 2 жыл бұрын
@@sirdarklust Not so sure when it is war time but even then Germany and UK for example managed to resolve situations where bombs were accidentally dropped near civilian areas. This happened in the beginning of the war though, later on it was just total destruction without any morals.
@sirdarklust
@sirdarklust 2 жыл бұрын
@@duhni4551 Right. Since Hungary wasn't at war with the USSR when the bombing happened, they could have first asked for an investigation, reparations, etc. Instead they immediately chose war. That is why I think this situation was a manufactured excuse to declare war.
@duhni4551
@duhni4551 2 жыл бұрын
@@sirdarklust I think so too, also in my opinion, looking things from our era, Hungary was on the boat against Soviets from the very beginning, all they lacked was an excuse to do it without Western powers condemning their actions.
@cska2001
@cska2001 2 жыл бұрын
Do you know who the Soviet army didn't take as prisones of war? 1. SS soldiers and officers 2. ROA traitors from Vlasov's army 3. Hungarians. The first Stalingrad type battle was near Voronezh. Colonel General Vatutin, after seeing vicious atrocities committed by Hungarians ( against woonded soldiers, civilians, women, kids) gave an order:" Do not take Hungarians as prisoners"! Ask Hungarians now where is the largest Hungarian military cemetery?! Near Voronezh!
@HistoryHustle
@HistoryHustle 2 жыл бұрын
I see, cannot confirm this since I still have to research this.
@cska2001
@cska2001 2 жыл бұрын
@@HistoryHustle Come to the city of Voronezh! Or just google it, at least!
@luishernandezblonde
@luishernandezblonde 2 жыл бұрын
As you said in the vid: Hungary joined Nazi German side. So it was impossible to not take part on invading USSR.
@HistoryHustle
@HistoryHustle 2 жыл бұрын
Not quiet, please watch the video if you haven't.
@theinsideouter6371
@theinsideouter6371 2 жыл бұрын
Hello did you know when we were at war with you, in the time of sailing ships, the Dutch sailed up the thames and stole our best battle ships
@HistoryHustle
@HistoryHustle 2 жыл бұрын
When?
@theinsideouter6371
@theinsideouter6371 2 жыл бұрын
@@HistoryHustle 1667
@theinsideouter6371
@theinsideouter6371 2 жыл бұрын
My friend I mean no animosity to anyone Iam just an old man that knows things peace and love from the old hippy
@silence-humility-calmness
@silence-humility-calmness 2 жыл бұрын
if its Germany they could have marked the planes in russian colors to fully furnish the false flag operation, the unmarked part is very baffling to me. it sounds like the attacker just wanted to bomb a target without any repercussions or fallout ,maybe Germany wasn't confident in its relationship with hungary so this was like a silent warning of what they are capable of, or maybe it really was the russians and they had a strategic bombing target but didn't wanna mess with the fragile relationship they had with Hugary
@HistoryHustle
@HistoryHustle 2 жыл бұрын
Who knows...
@shergy1000
@shergy1000 2 жыл бұрын
Probably seen joining the Axis as revenge against the Soviet Union for their short but cruel invasion after WWI with the notorious Bela Kun.
@HistoryHustle
@HistoryHustle 2 жыл бұрын
Please watch the video.
@haunebu8135
@haunebu8135 2 жыл бұрын
The Soviet Union didn't invade Hungary after WWI. The communists came to power in Hungary in 1919 without foreign intervention.
@shergy1000
@shergy1000 2 жыл бұрын
@@haunebu8135 Pardon me for being so vague, the Hungarian Soviet Republic seized power and lasted 4 months. Are you telling me their was no foreign intervention? No direction from Moscow?
@haunebu8135
@haunebu8135 2 жыл бұрын
@@shergy1000 The leaders of the HSR spent the war in Russia coming home at the end of 1918 and forming the communist party in Hungary. Lenin assisted them with money just as the Germans helped Lenin in the bolshevik takeover of Russia. But the Hungarian communists got imprisoned by Károlyi in February 1919. Béla Kun and his comrades were released by the left-wing of the social democrats in March who wanted to orchestrate a coup against Károlyi with the help of the communists.
@michaeladams5332
@michaeladams5332 2 жыл бұрын
Now tucker Carlson is best buds
@HistoryHustle
@HistoryHustle 2 жыл бұрын
Irrelevant.
@vincentgiasullo
@vincentgiasullo 2 жыл бұрын
I hate Tucker Carson but that’s an off topic comment Michael.
@ipsylon7297
@ipsylon7297 2 жыл бұрын
Hungary occupied big part of Slovakia including Kosice where Hungarian fascists killed and tortured civilians. There was a short war with Slovakia which Hitler ended. Witnesses said planes flew towards Hungary borders.
@HistoryHustle
@HistoryHustle 2 жыл бұрын
Source?
@ipsylon7297
@ipsylon7297 2 жыл бұрын
@@HistoryHustle Mala vojna marec Wikipedia youtube Thank you for amazing information you provide.
@gumdeo
@gumdeo 2 жыл бұрын
Once Barbarossa had begun, Hungary would have been drawn in eventually. A triumphant USSR would not have respected Hungarian neutrality any more than they respected Bulgarian neutrality (the Soviets declared war on Bulgaria in 1944, even though the Bulgarians were always at peace with Russia).
@HistoryHustle
@HistoryHustle 2 жыл бұрын
Yes, although they let them switch sides, the same goes for the Romanians. Hungary could have gotten the same deal if the Germans haven't stepped in.
@egoalter1276
@egoalter1276 28 күн бұрын
It was a case of the jump out being a massive cockup, with barely any planning. The announcme t of the whole thjng was read by a radio presenter in the name of the regent, rather than the regent himself for gods sake.
@philbydoodle6199
@philbydoodle6199 2 жыл бұрын
They say if you a Hungarian friend you don’t need enemies 😂😂😂😂
@HistoryHustle
@HistoryHustle 2 жыл бұрын
ok
@user-xt3wd1nz7x
@user-xt3wd1nz7x 2 жыл бұрын
Hungary is strange thing of 1941
@HistoryHustle
@HistoryHustle 2 жыл бұрын
Fair point.
@RenegadeCossack
@RenegadeCossack 2 жыл бұрын
The Hungarians feared a Soviet takeover like happened in 1919, when Bela Kuhn took over the government. The Hungarian Socialist Republic didn't last long, but it was still a reminder that the Bolsheviks were out for World domination.
@HistoryHustle
@HistoryHustle 2 жыл бұрын
That sured played a part although World domination wasn't on Stalin bucket list, despite him being a brutal dictator.
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