Will Rome's northern frontier fall? - Battle of Watling Street, 60 AD

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@HistoryMarche
@HistoryMarche 5 ай бұрын
🚩 If you like what you see, consider supporting my work on Patreon and you get ad-free early access to my videos for as little as $1 www.patreon.com/historymarche -- You can also show your support by subscribing to the channel and liking the video. Thank you for watching. 🚩 In Britain, at the northernmost edge of the empire, Rome’s strategy for command and control failed horribly. For the first time in memory, the Roman army is in retreat and the power of Rome is questioned. The Iceni army led by Boudica has cornered the outnumbered Romans at Mancetter. The Roman general Gaius Suetonius Paulinus steels his men for the battle ahead: “Ignore the racket made by these savages. There are more women than men in their ranks. We have beaten them before and when they see our weapons and feel our spirit, they will crack. Stick together. Throw the javelins, then push forward! Knock them down with your shields and finish them off with your swords. Forget about plunder. Just win and you will have everything!”
@troels4554
@troels4554 5 ай бұрын
Well done in chosing David McCallion... his voice is fantastic for your videos.
@steveclapper5424
@steveclapper5424 5 ай бұрын
A meat grinder.
@JBulsa
@JBulsa 5 ай бұрын
The bubble 🫧 captions are too small, not up long enough to read
@ThePetersondean
@ThePetersondean 5 ай бұрын
Just don’t like the political propaganda that’s included in Ukraine vs Russia videos.
@patrickmartin6449
@patrickmartin6449 5 ай бұрын
Another great video! If I may ask, will you ever be going back to finish your Hannibal series?
@jonny-b4954
@jonny-b4954 5 ай бұрын
One of the greatest defensive, pitched battles in history. I mean, imagine the adrenaline of those Romans afterwards, when it was starting to come down. Realizing 10k of them slaughtered tens and tens of thousands. Must have been one HELL of a speech from Paulinus before the battle.
@jamescawl6904
@jamescawl6904 5 ай бұрын
Only one phrase were heard for hours by the iceni. "Roma aeterna victrix"
@marccan3267
@marccan3267 5 ай бұрын
I think there should be few zeros deducted from the Roman numbers, especially if you consider the Roman casualties were 400 men.
@neutronalchemist3241
@neutronalchemist3241 5 ай бұрын
Practically he only gave instructions. Of his two legions one was of fresh veterans of the campaign in Wales, and one was "vexillationes", mostly composed of "evocatii", veteran legionaries that had been given a land in Britain and had been hastily recalled for that battle (you can imagine how they could be pissed off, since they were defending their lands, homes and families). They knew what they were doing.
@mrhumble2937
@mrhumble2937 5 ай бұрын
Probably only beat some little tribe. Just propaganda made them want to have some great victory.
@histguy101
@histguy101 5 ай бұрын
​@@mrhumble2937that sacked and destroyed several cities?
@Rome.s_Greatest_Enemy
@Rome.s_Greatest_Enemy 5 ай бұрын
I find it laughable to see people say Boudica is one of Rome's greatest enemies. She did start a rebellion no doubt and had some success. But she mostly attacked small settlements and isolated camps. Plus the Battle of Watling Street... the only battle she ever fought saw her use a strategy that not only decimated her army but ended the rebellion with terrible redemption from the Romans. She made an effort but it hardly was a challenge.
@loowick4074
@loowick4074 5 ай бұрын
She had no experience in combat and most of her troops were probably just rioting Britons with crude weapons. She did post a threat to ousting rome from briton as if the rebellion got too big it's a problem. But as for the fighting it was always roman favoured. The numbers of briton combatants was probably exaggerated by the Romans themselves to make her look scarier. Most of the "fighters" under her probably died of crowd crush than roman swords as a crowd had parked wagons behind the briton.
@Rome.s_Greatest_Enemy
@Rome.s_Greatest_Enemy 5 ай бұрын
@@loowick4074 exactly what i was saying. An effective leader knows their armies and that of the enemies. She knew that the Romans despite outnumbered were severely disciplined and effective in pitched battle. Plus her army was no match for the Romans. If she knew that dhe shouldn't have attacked and if she didn't knew then the attack was stupid
@SolidAvenger1290
@SolidAvenger1290 5 ай бұрын
​@@Rome.s_Greatest_Enemyagreed. She had a better shot of using guerilla warfare akin to how other leaders employed against the Romans in the upcoming centuries and almost replicating Robert the Bruce's rebellion by using the terrain to their advantage alongside ambushing tactics to wear down the Roman forces. Rome couldn't be everywhere in Brition given how far stretch their manpower was by then.
@blockmasterscott
@blockmasterscott 5 ай бұрын
Most overrated female in ancient history. He sacked some towns, killed a bunch of civilians, beat up a rookie legion, but when she took on a real Roman legion, she got her ass kicked, and she got it kicked good. If she would have been a man, she would have been a minor footnote in the back of some book.
@henryxu9488
@henryxu9488 5 ай бұрын
She’s a woman
@Timurlane64
@Timurlane64 5 ай бұрын
I am always impressed how the Roman sources were so willing to call out the fact that many of these wars and revolts were incited by the greed and avarice of their fellow Roman elites. ‘Create a desert and call it peace.’
@LuisBrito-ly1ko
@LuisBrito-ly1ko 5 ай бұрын
That sentence also comes from them and it supposed to be part of a story
@Timurlane64
@Timurlane64 5 ай бұрын
@@LuisBrito-ly1ko It is actually ascribed to a Caledonian, but it was written by Tacitus, whom many believe was projecting more of his own view through a literary device.
@celdur4635
@celdur4635 5 ай бұрын
Countries have always criticized themselves, even only for political gain for another faction.
@Timurlane64
@Timurlane64 5 ай бұрын
@@celdur4635 You see it some, but most of what I see will be something like Emperor Jian, through his arrogance, fell into the enemy ambush.’ The Roman’s were particularly up front about the underlying causes…’things were peaceful and the locals were cooperative, but than Gaius and some of the other officials got greedy and made up crazy taxes, stole property on trumped up charges, and paid their soldiers with the daughters of the local people. That is why we have this mess.’ Yes, it was often written for a contemporary political agenda.
@PoniesNSunshine
@PoniesNSunshine 5 ай бұрын
There is a fantastic critique of Boudicca by J.Draper, well worth watching. Basically 99% of what we know about all this is pure fiction, other than that multiple cities were burned down. The people who wrote about it were never actually there.
@Valterius87
@Valterius87 5 ай бұрын
Rome at its height, with competent commanders must have been terrifying. This battle was an absolute slaughter. What was the legion in battle called? A meatgrinder?
@maceoryan-hess9235
@maceoryan-hess9235 5 ай бұрын
this is why you actually train your troops
@pliniojr95
@pliniojr95 4 ай бұрын
Legio XIV Gemina
@Garlin55
@Garlin55 4 ай бұрын
i bet it was highly exaggerated by the victors and it wasn't exactly a well trained army they were against. I wonder how many women and children they slaughtered too no doubt they wrote that into the numbers they "fought" aswell
@Garlin55
@Garlin55 4 ай бұрын
@@maceoryan-hess9235 and have educated soldiery leading them
@Valterius87
@Valterius87 4 ай бұрын
@@Garlin55 Rome's might was echoed in Britain, when she was an empire. The discipline was ridiculous. And here we are, we can't go 5 minutes without our device in our hands.
@jonbaxter2254
@jonbaxter2254 5 ай бұрын
As a Brit, this hurts to see. As a Roman fanboy, can't get enough...
@AnxiousMrDnD
@AnxiousMrDnD 5 ай бұрын
i know what you mean, but stupid revolts pretty much never win
@tylerdurden3722
@tylerdurden3722 5 ай бұрын
She had minimum 20 000 proper warriors. Plus Britonic chariots were probably the most effective of these weapons in history (under the right Britonic commanders). Even Caesar was made a fool by Britonic chariot tactics when employed properly. If it was even a half competent Briton commander leading that battle, the Romans would have been doomed. Even in the speech of Paulinus, one can tell he was expecting to die on that day, and were minimum aiming to avoid the torturous deaths they witnessed before, in exchange for quicker more honorable deaths, and buy the mob of fleeing Roman civillans some time. But if the Romans were expelled at this point, there probably wouldn't be Anglo-Saxons on Britain, no England, no English language, no USA, Australia, New Zealand, etc.
@mrhumble2937
@mrhumble2937 5 ай бұрын
But these Britts aren't even the same as the alfred the great Britts.
@JDDC-tq7qm
@JDDC-tq7qm 4 ай бұрын
​@@mrhumble2937still happened in England and boudicca brits are real brits not Germans from Alfred the great brits
@alb3598
@alb3598 4 ай бұрын
@@JDDC-tq7qm It did not happen in England, England is a country not a landmass and England and English literally means Aenglisc, which are those Germans you talk about. The "real brits" have gotten nothing but dumped on by everyone, Romans and English.
@b3ygghsas
@b3ygghsas 5 ай бұрын
"A disorderly mob is no more an army than a heap of building materials is a house" -Socrates I think this quote is very fitting for boudica's rebellion
@NewsRedial
@NewsRedial 5 ай бұрын
I remember that as a game load screen from Rome Total War
@RemusKingOfRome
@RemusKingOfRome 5 ай бұрын
No flanking forces, woman in charge, all emotion, no strategies. :D k
@informationyes
@informationyes 5 ай бұрын
@@RemusKingOfRome Oh grow up lol no flanking forces and no stratagy has been done my many men if you watch the channel especially barbarian type forces not to mention all the other blunders us men have made, despite your out dated veiws new studys also debunk this idea woman are super emotional not to mention emotional regulation is a different thing (not that you would comprehend such things)
@popothethird1733
@popothethird1733 5 ай бұрын
@@RemusKingOfRome Sexist military larper, get a life
@baonguyenxuanthai711
@baonguyenxuanthai711 5 ай бұрын
​@@informationyes I agree with this 100%
@denorjigalaxen9230
@denorjigalaxen9230 5 ай бұрын
Even if paulinus had real troops. The ratio was still crazy. I don't get why some people thinks that boudica is more dangerous than vercingetorix. Becuse the sacking of the settlements wasn't all that impresive. No competent military leader, just numbers.
@loowick4074
@loowick4074 5 ай бұрын
Vercingetorix pulled a great maneuver, if it was any other general than caesar the Romans would have most likely lost the fight. Boudicca just screamed "waaaagh" and sent untrained fighters charging into a wall. Like an unorganised mob that big, so many would die just in the crowding and stampede
@Onezy05
@Onezy05 5 ай бұрын
@@loowick4074 "Boudicca just screamed 'waaaagh'" I read this in the Halo elites voice.
@andywomack3414
@andywomack3414 5 ай бұрын
@@loowick4074 Indeed, J. Caesar made all the difference. Or so it would seem. Could Pompey have been successful? He was not slouch as a general either, and damn near beat J. Caesar.
@morva4498
@morva4498 5 ай бұрын
​@@Onezy05AAAAWUBADUGH
@LegioXXI
@LegioXXI 5 ай бұрын
@@andywomack3414 Pompeius actually managed to outmaneuver Caesar at some points and even at the decisive battle he was pressured to fight by his troops and officers. If he managed to pull his strategy without the influence of his officers, it's not unlikely that he would have one. Caesar clock was ticking from the very moment he landed in Greece, he was a bit cocky when he went to Greece to face Pompeius. And it's also not the only time this happened. In Britain, Spain, North Africa and Egypt the same happened. Usually he only came on top because of his battle hardened veterans from his campaign in gaul. Without those, Ceasar would have lost the civil war. And this is why i'd say that Pompeius overall was the better general, but Caesar had better troops and officers. This civil war is a good example for how valuable battle hardened veterans are. They can overcome so many obstacles, even in bad strategic situations. Especially if your opponents forces consist mainly of inexperienced troops.
@pvtj0cker
@pvtj0cker 5 ай бұрын
Paulinus knew that he would be the butt of jokes in Rome if he lost to a woman. It wasn't happening on his watch.
@blockmasterscott
@blockmasterscott 5 ай бұрын
Great comment, made me laugh out loud. 🤣🤣🤣👍
@ambjorninemyr8520
@ambjorninemyr8520 5 ай бұрын
Instead he would lose to Vitellius years later, something even more embarrassing in my book .
@tpain8580
@tpain8580 5 ай бұрын
@@ambjorninemyr8520Paulinus was not the commander for that defeat it was Otho’s brother Titianus. Along with the other generals Paulinus advised against marching on Cremona until other legions arrived.
@informationyes
@informationyes 4 ай бұрын
He had more to be worried about namely not being killed, this isnt a friendly spa lol also in rome they would be more worried about their territory
@informationyes
@informationyes 4 ай бұрын
also remeber the female pirate queen that basically won against china
@Benwatling
@Benwatling 4 ай бұрын
I was teaching my children about the battle yesterday as we drove down Watling street and how we share our surname with the famous street. How fitting you then made an awesome video about it!!
@StevenTheGold001
@StevenTheGold001 5 ай бұрын
babe wake up, historymarche just uploaded
@TriscuitSnacks
@TriscuitSnacks 5 ай бұрын
You wake up your right hand?
@Finkaisar
@Finkaisar 5 ай бұрын
@@TriscuitSnacks Right hand has to click on the video
@MarcusAgrippa390
@MarcusAgrippa390 5 ай бұрын
Then what's the left hand doing?
@TriscuitSnacks
@TriscuitSnacks 5 ай бұрын
​@@MarcusAgrippa390 shoved up his bhole
@jozzieokes3422
@jozzieokes3422 5 ай бұрын
​@@MarcusAgrippa390 hitting the like comment and subscribe button
@camboselecta1
@camboselecta1 5 ай бұрын
I used to live in St Albans. You can still walk the roman walls and even clearly see the London gate, one larger entry for horse and cart and two smaller on either side for foot. Really cool. Verulamium is actually really small, the walls fit easily in to the city park. There is a place you can see the mosaic and under floor heating in one of the larger houses. But, what did the romans ever do for us…..? Hahaha
@Verbindungs
@Verbindungs 4 ай бұрын
What do you mean by 'us'? After the Romans came the Jutes, Angles, Saxons, Vikings and Normans. The country is called England, not Albion. It's the same with the French when they speak romantically about Gaul, when their country is called after the Franks. Each of us is a mix of what history brought, and to pretend to be other is absurd. The country in which I was born had its entire male population exterminated in one point in history by an invasion of a tribe of the east. Do I say that my people was exterminated by barbarians? No, because I am surely descendant in part or completely of those invaders.
@camboselecta1
@camboselecta1 4 ай бұрын
@@Verbindungs hahaha Im aware. You’ve never heard the famous saying in England “what did the romans ever do for us?” Its in Monty Pythons Life of Brian. It’s generally followed by a long list of all the things the romans did for “us”, the us being the uk in general. So take a big step down off that very high horse and put the keyboard away. Hahaha.
@Verbindungs
@Verbindungs 4 ай бұрын
@@camboselecta1 my apologies. I lack Monty Python as a cultural reference.
@JDDC-tq7qm
@JDDC-tq7qm 4 ай бұрын
​@@Verbindungscountries like Sweden and Russia have never been occupied as a whole so they must be the only 2 European nations with pure blood
@Verbindungs
@Verbindungs 4 ай бұрын
@@JDDC-tq7qm that's hilarious
@georgebailey8179
@georgebailey8179 5 ай бұрын
Good as ever. I liked the way that you depicted the land with its coastline as it was then, rather than using a modern map of Britain.
@davidhughes8357
@davidhughes8357 5 ай бұрын
The Romans had already experienced a somewhat similar scenario against Hannibal at Cannae particularly in the total numbers of casualties on each side. And the legions here were not just a mob of individuals without organization. Thank you so much for this fine production of a battle that i have always been interested in !!!
@sophosinio
@sophosinio 4 ай бұрын
every army becomes a mob once a rout starts
@davidhughes8357
@davidhughes8357 4 ай бұрын
​ Especially when completely surrounded@@sophosinio
@thijshagenbeek6554
@thijshagenbeek6554 4 ай бұрын
Boudica's greatest error was to allow herself to get pulled into a battle on a battlefield the Romans were comfortable to offer battle. Rome's legions were not insurmountable but fighting the Romans on their terms and on ground the famous legions could deploy and fight as intended was madness.
@loowick4074
@loowick4074 4 ай бұрын
Never fight the Romans when they are ready
5 ай бұрын
Her (Boudica's) first REAL Battlefield command and she was utterly obliterated.. A very poor leader of men in battle. Totally inept and it cost her and her people EVERYTHING.
@Reignor99
@Reignor99 5 ай бұрын
Ya, when people suggest her as a "strong female warrior" I tell them about Watling Street. She got humiliated and fled. I'm glad HM made a video about it.
@Narrator_of_Tarikh07
@Narrator_of_Tarikh07 5 ай бұрын
No man, you're too rude. She made an outstanding achievement that nobody else in history was able to do both before and after her ! Losing to an army of 10.000 soldiers while having 230.000 men on her side 😂😂😂😂😂
@Narrator_of_Tarikh07
@Narrator_of_Tarikh07 5 ай бұрын
​@@Reignor99No man, you're too rude. She made an outstanding achievement that nobody else in history was able to do both before and after her ! Losing to an army of 10.000 soldiers while having 230.000 men on her side 😂😂😂😂😂
5 ай бұрын
@@Narrator_of_Tarikh07 I refer you to my original statement... It stands.
@blindleader42
@blindleader42 4 ай бұрын
"A very poor leader of men in battle." No different than any other Celtic chieftain encountering Roman legions in battle for the first time. It's the "men in battle" who are not up to the task.That is, the only experience of warfare tribal Celts had, was the occasional cattle raid, border dispute or squabble over resources against other Celtic tribes. They had no chance, no matter who was leading them.
@gibsonrickenbacker6317
@gibsonrickenbacker6317 5 ай бұрын
The flaccid sword image got me 😂😂😂
@mercenaryeyes
@mercenaryeyes 4 ай бұрын
Still doing great work after a really long time and still consistent, which these days is a really rare thing to find in a entertaining yt channel. Thank you
@HistoryMarche
@HistoryMarche 4 ай бұрын
Much appreciated!
@JeffChampagne
@JeffChampagne 5 ай бұрын
The sacrifice has been made. The algorithm is appeased!
@Hillbilly001
@Hillbilly001 5 ай бұрын
@@JeffChampagne All hail the Algorithm.
@Dodlo32888
@Dodlo32888 5 ай бұрын
> revolt against one of the mightiest empire. > Destroy bunch of cities and killed thousands of Innocent civilians. > faced a real army which she out numbered heavily. > lost the battle. > referenced to elaborate. > dies. > Thousands of years later people made her an “icon” by using the female card.
@ElBandito
@ElBandito 4 ай бұрын
A woman whose daughters were raped in front of her resolved to fight a war she most likely knew was not gonna end well with her? Of course she is an icon to be respected. WTF is wrong with your moral compass?
@MW_Asura
@MW_Asura 4 ай бұрын
Possibly the most overhyped and overrated historical woman. There's several other women who are a much better option to use as an "icon" (something I don't like frankly), yet people choose a queen who not only was an awful leader but was also a pretty bad person.
@02_aliftaufiqurrohman98
@02_aliftaufiqurrohman98 4 ай бұрын
​@@MW_Asuratrue, there are atleast dozen more deserved Women in History. Saint Olga of Kyivan Rus, Catherine the Great, and i forget that Georgian Queen.
@alb3598
@alb3598 4 ай бұрын
An icon does not need to be about victory, but standing defiant and rebelling against a suppressive tyrant overpower. Leonidas did not win either yet he is still a great heroic symbol. While she was nowhere near as efficient and put up as much fight as Leonidas did, it's still always admirable to stand up and fight. She simply was not a military leader and can't really be blamed for that, instead those men who had more military experience should be blamed for having less balls than a woman with no military experience, to start the revolt and lead them to battle rather than the tribesmen doing it themselves as is and was their duty.
@Dodlo32888
@Dodlo32888 4 ай бұрын
@@alb3598 what you’re saying is really inspiring but the world isn’t work like that! Leonidas might’ve lost the battle but he lead 7000 man against one of the biggest armies in ancient world and died them. Now you and me can argue all day that “she’s a woman” “she’s not well Experienced General” “she’s didn’t have a trained army”. But the fact is she’s leading a large army (knowing that they aren’t soldiers or skilled enough), killed thousands of civilians. Then got absolutely destroyed by the Romans (while outnumbering them heavily) and flee the battle filled leaving her mans to get Massacred. The only thing Leonidas and boudica have common is they both lost their battles. Without that their story is totally different. The biggest differences is the resistance of Leonidas resulted something which benefited the Greeks unlike boudica! Besides Yes she might have more balls than those man (which you mentioned) but Lacks a significant amount of Common sense compared to them. Because rebelling against the mighty romans while having an army made out of farmers isn’t a good idea at all!💀💀 She remains me a quote which says “F*ck around and find out”
@sanjmalik6282
@sanjmalik6282 4 ай бұрын
I lived on Watling Street as a child and it is known as a old Roman Road. Watling Street is in Wellington, Telford and the County of Shropshire. It borders North Wales. Thank you up loading this video.
@chitterlingsrtasty
@chitterlingsrtasty 5 ай бұрын
Thanks!
@HistoryMarche
@HistoryMarche 5 ай бұрын
Much appreciated! Thank you for the support!
@jonshive5482
@jonshive5482 5 ай бұрын
There's a detailed if speculative description of this battle in George Shipway's Imperial Governor. He has Paulinus elaborate on his legionaries' "line relief systerm" in a letter to Praetorian Prefect Sextus Afranius Burrus afterwards. In this account he supposedly writes "Valen's [legate of Legion XIV Gemini] men fought beautifully. His centurions...were taught to relieve the entire front rank whenever the fighting allowed, before weariness or wounds curbed their vigour. The neat, sidestepping movements whereby each century's front suddenly produced twelve fresh legionaries to oppose a tiring enemy were a delight to a soldiers eye." An interesting sidenote to an incredible battle, masterfully presented as always by HistoryMarche.
@Jack-he8jv
@Jack-he8jv Ай бұрын
this same tactic is almost always parroted by history books regarding small force winning against bigger force in pitched battle.
@Hillbilly001
@Hillbilly001 5 ай бұрын
May this comment be a sacrifice to the Algorithm.
@baoxidiaoyu
@baoxidiaoyu 5 ай бұрын
This is the way
@Hillbilly001
@Hillbilly001 5 ай бұрын
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@Shandalt1
@Shandalt1 5 ай бұрын
This is the way
@jdeadlunar1019
@jdeadlunar1019 5 ай бұрын
Hail
@Hillbilly001
@Hillbilly001 5 ай бұрын
@@Shandalt1 All hail the Algorithm.
@Ycjedi
@Ycjedi 4 ай бұрын
That's the worst name for a Roman official I've ever heard... Biggus Dickus- "Hold my beer..."
@grahamgilbert4883
@grahamgilbert4883 4 ай бұрын
The figure of 80,000 seems highly improbable (let alone 230,000, which would have been at least 10% of the entire population of Britain). It's not credible that what is merely Essex and East Anglia now could have produced armed forces of such a size in this period, raised in the space of a few months.
@Tonyx.yt.
@Tonyx.yt. 3 ай бұрын
most likely 230k was the total iceni population under boudica rule
@TheA8lee
@TheA8lee 5 ай бұрын
I was under the impression that Britain's biggest appeal to, first, the Romans then later the Anglo-Saxons was that the island is a very arable land because it is so well irrigated and frost-free due to the gulf stream. The Romans certainly needed a good source of crops to feed its urban centre's, particularly Rome, and the Anglos preferred the milder climate of Britain to the more frigid and dry areas of Northern Germany, or swampy lands of Frisia.
@AnxiousMrDnD
@AnxiousMrDnD 5 ай бұрын
well, most of west europe has that, including the fact rome had egypt at this point, they didn't need much more land for food, the anglos however came from holstein area which is generally a colder environment then even britanny (think I spelt it right) in France that reduced time for specific crops, and swamps because, well the swamp isn't a good place to farm with soft soil
@neutronalchemist3241
@neutronalchemist3241 5 ай бұрын
it was the only sizable source of tin in Europe and the Mediterranean basin.
@tylerdurden3722
@tylerdurden3722 5 ай бұрын
It had no such appeal for the Romans, because wheat, barley, oats and most vegetables require a drier climate, which is limited to South Eastern Britain and even that isn't ideal. In Britain, furnaces had to be used to dry grain (and plenty of these have been excavated) Compared to the massive grain productions of Egypt, the rest of North Africa and Sicily and even the Pontic Steppe (the modern bread basket of the world), why would Britain have such an appeal to the Romans specifically? To some Scandinavians, it would be an agricultural upgrade...but not for the Romans. Britain was known as the Land of Tin (it's where most of the Tin for making Bronze during the Bronze age, came from...after the end of the Bronze age, Britain's value/appeal decreased significantly) The biggest appeal Britain had was it's previous mythological status. To the Romans, before Britain was discovered by Caesar, it was a mythological place kind of like the Lost Atlantis, that most Romans thought didn't really exist and was just fairytales, which included similar stories of a great civilization, technological advancement and great wealth. To learn that Britain really does exist, and isn't just a fairytale created great fascination among the Roman public. The Phoenicians and their dependents the Carthaginians managed to keep Britain a secret, in order to retain their virtual monopoly on Tin. Btw, Britannia comes from the Phoenician, Bratanac which means, Land of Tin. Caesar milked huge popularity from confirming it existed, sending home written material of his discovery. Claudius wanted/needed some of that milk to shape his political image....beyond that, it had no value to the Romans and it cost them more resources to occupy it than they could extract from it (in fact, Egypt was funding the occupation of Britain...the same was true for Germania)
@tedcrilly46
@tedcrilly46 4 ай бұрын
@@tylerdurden3722 You know, people from Phoenix are called Phoenicians.
@tylerdurden3722
@tylerdurden3722 4 ай бұрын
@@tedcrilly46 lol 😂
@ieuanjones7615
@ieuanjones7615 5 ай бұрын
Goes to show that numbers don't mean everything.
@blaze1148
@blaze1148 5 ай бұрын
....only if a flanking manoeuvre is not possible.
@edwardchristensen414
@edwardchristensen414 5 ай бұрын
I’ve been telling my wife that for years, yet she still insist it matters :(
@lordsbully2456
@lordsbully2456 5 ай бұрын
its kinda is, i mean just look at ww2
@blaze1148
@blaze1148 5 ай бұрын
@@lordsbully2456 Were numbers funnelled into small areas with limited room for manoeuvre - no - in Russia [and France 1944] the Germans were attacked from all sides.
@AnxiousMrDnD
@AnxiousMrDnD 5 ай бұрын
if anything looking at specific battles like historymarche does proves that numbers actually account for surprisingly little compared to expected, always better to have but as long as you replace it with another advantage, meaningless
@Malasorte1989
@Malasorte1989 5 ай бұрын
AMAZING JOB !ALL THE BEST FROM ROMANIA !
@rankcascade9627
@rankcascade9627 5 ай бұрын
I love these new breakdowns before the battle, with Claudius here and in the video about Vlad the Impaler
@hesoyam881
@hesoyam881 4 ай бұрын
Legionnaires in battle against some farmers. It is like if Navy SEALs were fighting a group of competitive paintball players
@Joseph-z2kjdbdbekdb
@Joseph-z2kjdbdbekdb 4 ай бұрын
Even then 23-1 odds would probably still have the navy seal getting overwhelmed. The paintball players you’re referring too had to be under 12
@hesoyam881
@hesoyam881 4 ай бұрын
@@Joseph-z2kjdbdbekdbit’s more like 1-10 since the majority of Boudicas men retreated (most of them probably never even got to swing their weapon once). But the comparison was mostly about the skill and combat readiness
@Endremael
@Endremael Ай бұрын
never underestimate a houthi
@halykacademy
@halykacademy 4 ай бұрын
Great! Thanks History Marche! Love your videos! Highest quality!
@BenAriel-bx2vy
@BenAriel-bx2vy 4 ай бұрын
Agreed
@jackland3387
@jackland3387 5 ай бұрын
Great video as always. Thank you 😊
@bigsarge2085
@bigsarge2085 5 ай бұрын
Incredible, thank you!
@HistoryMarche
@HistoryMarche 5 ай бұрын
Glad you liked it!
@HistoryMarche
@HistoryMarche 5 ай бұрын
It's so awesome to see comments from long time subscribers! Heartwarming truly! Thanks again.
@brianj6701
@brianj6701 5 ай бұрын
Great video, as always.
@ProfessorM-he9rl
@ProfessorM-he9rl 4 ай бұрын
Thank you for this post, much appreciated.
@privateman60
@privateman60 5 ай бұрын
My greatest wish is to find a game like this
@mikaaltarar
@mikaaltarar 5 ай бұрын
Yep
@utkuozi4911
@utkuozi4911 5 ай бұрын
yeah graphics should be 2d. this 3d games good for eye but thats all. why cant we get a good strategic game with logistics, army morale. eu4 is kind of good. but they are just like real time board games with weird rules.
@Vanduo610
@Vanduo610 5 ай бұрын
There is one very similar but small game. It was originally released on the browser, but now it is on steam (the full version is not free). I do not remember the name of the game. I will try to find:... Edit: Winter Falling: Battle Tactics.
@ひろゆき二十一
@ひろゆき二十一 5 ай бұрын
Total war is literally like this if you turn on a certain option and make your command boxes only
@TwoTapTommy
@TwoTapTommy 5 ай бұрын
Crusader Kings 3, not exactly like this but worth a look either way
@Crazyhorse75-u2z
@Crazyhorse75-u2z 4 ай бұрын
Boudica-The patron saint of Karens. Screeching "i want to talk to your Procurator"!!
@Orangeisthenameofmycplour
@Orangeisthenameofmycplour 5 ай бұрын
My favourite channel so far
@Kees247
@Kees247 5 ай бұрын
Super video! Thank you.
@mrowen3430
@mrowen3430 4 ай бұрын
Really well made video
@kombatwoody5868
@kombatwoody5868 5 ай бұрын
@HistoryMarche - we need the Hannibal conclusion videos please! My Son and I are addicted to that series! Thanks!!
@HistoryMarche
@HistoryMarche 5 ай бұрын
It's coming.
@bartvanlieshout3715
@bartvanlieshout3715 Ай бұрын
Awesome to watch after reading the vespasianus books that also describes this battle and the rebellion. Much appreciated!
@HistoryMarche
@HistoryMarche Ай бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it!
@Fabio-Jose-DragonKing
@Fabio-Jose-DragonKing 5 ай бұрын
Thanks as always ( gonna comment as soon as my main accaount works again, daniel here)
@alorikkoln
@alorikkoln 18 күн бұрын
I think the quality of History Marche is, next to Epic History, the best. But the topics are also excellent, because they talk about themes that others do not. Like the Attila of the East.
@SolidAvenger1290
@SolidAvenger1290 5 ай бұрын
It's always a great day when HistoryMarche posts a new video, especially about Roman history. We hope soon Part 20 of the Hannibal series will come out. We eagerly await to continue his story.
@HistoryMarche
@HistoryMarche 5 ай бұрын
I have 19 episodes of Hannibal, you can find them on the Hannibal playlist. I'm working on part 20
@drunkmonk3376
@drunkmonk3376 5 ай бұрын
​@@HistoryMarcheso it will come right
@SolidAvenger1290
@SolidAvenger1290 5 ай бұрын
​@@HistoryMarchegotcha. Corrected on how many parts have been done thus far.
@SolidAvenger1290
@SolidAvenger1290 5 ай бұрын
​@@drunkmonk3376I believe they have finally done the writing after some revisions. Animation is taking some time to be completed if I do recall from previous comments. Could be wrong, of course.
@GalaBrere
@GalaBrere 5 ай бұрын
​@HistoryMarche yep but there is no bettal of Zama were the Roman's won the War😢
@98cents
@98cents 3 ай бұрын
Wonder what it was like going in to that battle thinking they had a massive advantage, only to see it slowly chipped away over several hours and the realization that they were doomed. How infuriating it must be to put up so much of a struggle only to have your "dreams" crushed in such a methodical manner.
@unusualhistorian1336
@unusualhistorian1336 5 ай бұрын
Great video as always! Keep it up!
@JZsBFF
@JZsBFF 5 ай бұрын
Thanks HM for a full account of the Boudica episode. Now I'm off to listen to the Boudica song of the Horrible Histories team.
@jonbaxter2254
@jonbaxter2254 4 ай бұрын
All say yah! Boudicca!
@JZsBFF
@JZsBFF 4 ай бұрын
@@jonbaxter2254 Boudicca! Superstar! Don't diss this miss
@davidhughes8357
@davidhughes8357 5 ай бұрын
My personal algorithm says Historymarche all the way!!!
@danielsantiagourtado3430
@danielsantiagourtado3430 5 ай бұрын
You're the Best! Always look forward to your content! Hearth please ❤❤❤❤❤❤
@AbhyudayaSinh
@AbhyudayaSinh 5 ай бұрын
Very informative ❤❤
@DrKarmo
@DrKarmo 5 ай бұрын
Another superb video, thank you guys!
@verutumnorton4662
@verutumnorton4662 4 ай бұрын
Great presentation. Very well done. I enjoyed it immensely.
@KHK001
@KHK001 5 ай бұрын
Another amazing video HM! love these Roman videos!
@HistoryMarche
@HistoryMarche 5 ай бұрын
Thank you very much!
@alfredosuarez8780
@alfredosuarez8780 4 ай бұрын
Lovely as always!!!
@HistoryMarche
@HistoryMarche 4 ай бұрын
Thank you so much 😊
@barbiquearea
@barbiquearea 5 ай бұрын
I've been waiting on this one to come out for a week now.
@AlbinKlingström
@AlbinKlingström 4 ай бұрын
Great content!
@AnimeFan-dl4qd
@AnimeFan-dl4qd 5 ай бұрын
3:05 even his mother, poor Claudius
@thehturt5480
@thehturt5480 4 ай бұрын
Great History channel ❤
@michaelwong9411
@michaelwong9411 5 ай бұрын
There are times when sheer numbers can overwhelm superior training and equipment, but the Battle of Watling Street was not one of those times.
@HistoryMarche
@HistoryMarche 5 ай бұрын
Classic
@salaudinayobi6997
@salaudinayobi6997 5 ай бұрын
I don't miss any single video OF HistoryMarche by watch , liking and sharing...! When to start Ghengiz khan series ....!
@LookHereMars
@LookHereMars 5 ай бұрын
For the Algo, as always, thank you for the video HM.
@HistoryMarche
@HistoryMarche 5 ай бұрын
Cheers for watching!
@rebeccaorman1823
@rebeccaorman1823 5 ай бұрын
For the record it is highly unlikely that Claudius took war elephants to Britain. The records don't say he did.
@sneeringimperialist6667
@sneeringimperialist6667 4 ай бұрын
I was wondering where they got boats that big...
@BenediktReichlin
@BenediktReichlin 2 ай бұрын
Great story, thank you
@Armans_nfl
@Armans_nfl 5 ай бұрын
love your content
@smfarqadain7223
@smfarqadain7223 5 ай бұрын
Your channel has a unnamed and unclaimed empire of the History of all other history channels must pledge their fealty to you and claim that you're their Liege lord 🎉🎉
@takbirhassankanon2053
@takbirhassankanon2053 2 ай бұрын
From this battle we can learn that "NEVER LET A WOMEN LEAD"
@TimeOfTroubles73
@TimeOfTroubles73 Ай бұрын
Yes. And also, don’t let them hold a remote control. Way too much power for a woman to handle.
@TimeOfTroubles73
@TimeOfTroubles73 Ай бұрын
Yes. And also, don’t let them handle a remote control. Way too much power for them to handle. They immediately begin to abuse it.
@jakebauer3244
@jakebauer3244 3 ай бұрын
All praise the mighty algorithm, may it bless this video with more views
@neilaleksandrov2655
@neilaleksandrov2655 4 ай бұрын
But that is a story for another time 😊
@HistoryMarche
@HistoryMarche 4 ай бұрын
The sequel is the Battle of Mons Graupius. I actually covered that one as well. kzbin.info/www/bejne/i5PRfJxprNijprM
@neilaleksandrov2655
@neilaleksandrov2655 4 ай бұрын
@@HistoryMarche youre the man
@Ciech_mate
@Ciech_mate 5 ай бұрын
That battle with the druid army sounds like a fascinating spectacle. But alas t'was as you said a way of life was lost forever.
@harmacist6623
@harmacist6623 4 ай бұрын
"Without discipline, a military force is no more than an armed mob." I feel like the battle between Rome and Boudica painted this adage *very* clearly. Another thing to note is Rome's ability to NOT fall when it should've been. I swear, EVERY time Rome is on the brink of collapse, their leaders just pulled a fucking win out of absolutely nowhere.
@murategeli6701
@murategeli6701 28 күн бұрын
Nice video thanks.
@mauriciorousselon5261
@mauriciorousselon5261 5 ай бұрын
The algorithm should think twice about not suggesting your fantastic channel. It ought to be defeated in an electronic battlefront!
@trentfry533
@trentfry533 4 ай бұрын
We who are about to comment, salute you!
@HistoryMarche
@HistoryMarche 4 ай бұрын
I love this! I will shamelessly steal your comment!
@gerharddeusser9103
@gerharddeusser9103 3 ай бұрын
If only a mind like Hannibal's had been there to counsel Boudicca... 😖
@baciuandrei875
@baciuandrei875 4 ай бұрын
Have my like and comment my dude. Keep up the great job
@danielsantiagourtado3430
@danielsantiagourtado3430 5 ай бұрын
History marche! My account works again! 🎉🎉🎉😊😊😊😊
@HistoryMarche
@HistoryMarche 5 ай бұрын
Welcome back!
@TrentBattyDrums
@TrentBattyDrums 4 ай бұрын
I LOVE THIS CHANNEL
@YooKkang
@YooKkang 5 ай бұрын
Boudica's rebellion was understandable, would you let a personal humilitation go without trouble?
@jamescawl6904
@jamescawl6904 5 ай бұрын
A rebellion that utterly destroyed her people and culture😂
@tylerdurden3722
@tylerdurden3722 5 ай бұрын
This was in part a case of cultural shock.(in part Rome trying to squeeze water from a rock...Britain had no real value to extract, but governers were under immense pressure to deliver extracted returns) This type of humiliation was the norm among prominent Roman rivaling families. Boudica and her family chose to become Roman Citizens because they thought it would bring advantages and were merely treated as Romans in that scenario, in terms of the norms and Roman Law (Roman female citizens couldn't inherit...tgis didn't apply to non-Roman citizens). Boudicca's family offended Seneca with that Will by giving what is owed to him, to the Emperor (he gave huge loans to them, and others). Seneca was a typical Roman era Loan Shark, so then he hired private thugs (another normal roman event) to treat them as Romans. What Boudicca suffered, thousands of prominent Romans suffered and worse...if this occurred in the city of Rome, it would have just been a normal Teusday.
@alb3598
@alb3598 4 ай бұрын
@@jamescawl6904 Better to truly live even if it's just for a moment and die standing, than live on your knees in chains forever. Had they not rebelled their culture would have been destroyed anyway, their people enslaved and their roots cut off.
@vixen878
@vixen878 4 ай бұрын
​@@jamescawl6904 You'd have done the same
@raclark2730
@raclark2730 3 ай бұрын
According to the Romans and noting they did tend towards political exaggeration. Many Roman captives in the sacked cities were boiled alive among other forms of ritual atrocities. There is a fine line between justified resistance and becoming a monster of vengeance. Its easy to romanticize history, but it is usually way worse than imagined.
@listenherejack
@listenherejack 5 ай бұрын
Like Thermopylae, a terrific lesson in the use of force multipliers in battle. Being outnumbered, even conservatively 5:1, doesn't matter when you're light infantry, fighting heavy infantry, in one direction.
@PastInNumbers
@PastInNumbers 5 ай бұрын
Stop sacrificing to the algorithm. It’s the algorithm that must be sacrificed!
@coyote4237
@coyote4237 5 ай бұрын
Another well done offering for us. I love the irony that a statue of Boudica stands in London today.
@greatjoeblack2202
@greatjoeblack2202 5 ай бұрын
The Hannibal series awaits my friend😊
@Greathistoricalmysteries
@Greathistoricalmysteries 4 ай бұрын
thanks for reupload
@The_Antiquary
@The_Antiquary 5 ай бұрын
Casus belli, not causus belli.
@vectordirect7876
@vectordirect7876 5 ай бұрын
YESSS!!!!! I've been waiting for this for a long time
@Almirante1741
@Almirante1741 5 ай бұрын
In 9:43 the subtitles are wrong. Legio VIIII is incorrect, it should be Legio IX instead. Please give a like to this comment so there is a higher chance for HistoryMarche to correct it
@taxult
@taxult 5 ай бұрын
Sometimes the shortened versions were never counted. The 14th Legion (Legio XIV) was officially Legio XIIII, so it must've been the same for the IXth legion.
@tylerdurden3722
@tylerdurden3722 5 ай бұрын
both are correct. VIIII is called the additive form and was actually more commonly used in official capacities. E.g. to number a legion, it was significantly more likely you'd see VIIII than IX. Seeing both forms used by the same Roman writer in the same document was not uncommon either. In fact, both forms were even sometimes used in the same number. Even numbers like IIIIIII or XXXXXXXXX existed lol. There wasn't any standardization.
@donaldcrawfordiii554
@donaldcrawfordiii554 Ай бұрын
Short but very concise. Enjoyed very much. Thankyou
@H4kkk0
@H4kkk0 5 ай бұрын
Women ☕
@РимскийОрел
@РимскийОрел Ай бұрын
Thanks to this great victory, the Romans retained Britain, and their descendants, the Welsh, live on today!
@StarFox31
@StarFox31 5 ай бұрын
FINISH your Hannibal series. Please!!!!
@Hillbilly001
@Hillbilly001 5 ай бұрын
@@StarFox31 Caesar si viveret ad remum daereris stultus
@HistoryMarche
@HistoryMarche 5 ай бұрын
I'm on it.
@StarFox31
@StarFox31 5 ай бұрын
@@HistoryMarche Excellent!
@Metal-Detecting-NC
@Metal-Detecting-NC 5 ай бұрын
What an amazing history lesson!
@mikaaltarar
@mikaaltarar 5 ай бұрын
Okay now... I have set up this weird rule for myself that I only watch K and g Epic history tv and your videos only when I am eating ... I just finished eating while watching kings and Generals Burma campaign video and the muscaline urge not to click on your video is just... Too MUCH!
@HistoryMarche
@HistoryMarche 5 ай бұрын
Haha, genuinely made me laugh, this!
@mikaaltarar
@mikaaltarar 5 ай бұрын
@@HistoryMarche My pleasure, Sire. But it's been one year now... Please finish Hannibal Barca series even though total war Rome already gave me spoilers but still...
@איזיקאופמן
@איזיקאופמן 2 ай бұрын
thank you very much
@12Italian_Catholic
@12Italian_Catholic 3 ай бұрын
Claudius was ancient joe Biden
@Gigadoomer13
@Gigadoomer13 3 ай бұрын
Don't compare the Emperor who conquered Britannia to that nursing home patient.
@paulofelipebbraga9634
@paulofelipebbraga9634 3 ай бұрын
HAHAHAAHA!
@vortigan9068
@vortigan9068 2 ай бұрын
technically joe biden is ancient joe biden
@MrSujny
@MrSujny 3 ай бұрын
there is like 3% of GOOD chanels on YT. This 3% making YT good site. I am glad i found you in this 3%. And i love this history wievs, especialy for sharing history to those who never opened a history boook. Thank you for sharing knowleadge betwen those folks... Many of this events shape future of europe, ye and give a pay rise to voice dude who comment whole series.
@brainflash1
@brainflash1 5 ай бұрын
I cincerly doubt all of Britain could've sustained an army 230,000 at this time. 50,000 at most given that her army was growing right up until the battle of Watling Street.
@HistoryMarche
@HistoryMarche 5 ай бұрын
Of the 230k most were camp followers, entire families. Typical for all tribes of this era. Maybe a third of these were fighting men, if even that much. But estimates go up to 80-90k warriors, with the rest being their families. Roman historians overblew the numbers by presenting the non-combatants as combatants.
@brainflash1
@brainflash1 5 ай бұрын
@@HistoryMarche Yeah, 230,000 including the families makes miore sense.
@ChristianAuditore14
@ChristianAuditore14 5 ай бұрын
It was not an army, just peasants. The number are acurate.
@brainflash1
@brainflash1 5 ай бұрын
@@ChristianAuditore14 And how were they fed?
@ChristianAuditore14
@ChristianAuditore14 5 ай бұрын
@@brainflash1 how are you fed?
@TurronMix
@TurronMix 5 ай бұрын
Great video
@vitorpereira9515
@vitorpereira9515 5 ай бұрын
Boundicca was brave while massacring civilians but when she faced the Roman legions she abandoned her followers to their death.
@Sirilere
@Sirilere 22 күн бұрын
How, when, and where her end came is unknown to history.
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