CAPT. DARRELL & the CARL D. BRADLEY TRAGEDY

The world is well in tune with the story of the Edmund Fitzgerald, which sank in a horrific November storm in Lake Superior in 1975; but the lesser known story of the Carl D. Bradley was equally tragic when it broke apart in Lake Michigan in another terrible November storm, this one on November 18, 1958. Of the 35 men aboard, two survived a frightening all-night ride in a life raft in 25-ft. seas with freezing wind and temperatures that haunted the survivors for 15 hours before they were rescued. Of the 33 men who died, 23 of them were from Rogers City, Michigan where one funeral after another affected the small lake town for decades to come. Join me, the History Mystery Man and Captain Darrell Walton for another fascinating dive into more Great Lakes Maritime true stories...this one featuring the "Queen of the Great Lakes", the Carl D. Bradley. Thanks for your support! #CarlDBradley #Shipwrecks #GreatLakes #EdmundFitzgerald #HistoryMysteryMan #FrankMays #ElmerFleming #GreatLakesStorms

[@Bluecollarwelderdad]

Captain Darrel is a guy I could sit with everyday and just listen to his stories.

[@pixelshark6809]

I literally think I would be totally star struck if I met Capt. Darrell at this point. Like “He sailed on the FITZ!!!” 👀

[@Bluecollarwelderdad]

@@pixelshark6809 I could see how you would be he's definitely a guy I look up to

[@HistoryMysteryMan]

He's a lot of fun to sit down with and hear his tales. Thanks for watching...HMM

[@Bluecollarwelderdad]

@@HistoryMysteryMan I bet we need Capt Darrel as a regular guest

[@darrellwalton938]

I had been on the "Fitz", however, it was my brother Tom who sailed on her during a Summer break from college, at the same time our Dad was the Chief Engineer.

[@filmchick6389]

Such compelling testimony. I’d like to sit in a country pub where I live in England - fire in the hearth, drinks on the table, dogs at our feet - and just listen to Captain Darrell for hours. I’d buy the man a pint or two of anything he’s drinking. And if any listeners would like to hear a tale of seafaring courage - search Penlee Lifeboat disaster - cruel sea - and listen to my own country’s 58 minutes of compelling bravery. These men are the best of us.

[@HistoryMysteryMan]

Thanks Filmchick 63. Sitting in a pub in England with you and Captain Darrell sounds like so much fun. I've never heard of the Penlee Lifeboat Disaster, but I'm definitely going to be checking it out. Thanks for your support...so cool to hear from England! HMM

[@filmchick6389]

@@HistoryMysteryMan I think Penlee is a story everyone should know - like the Fitz. These are our great nautical historical legacies and need to be retold. Thanks for your content.

[@HistoryMysteryMan]

@@filmchick6389 You're always welcome; thanks again! HMM

[@darrellwalton938]

Maybe a game of "Darts", too!

[@nw8000]

@@darrellwalton938 I will supply the potato Chips!

[@Bighead_Joe]

Been fascinated by the Fitz, the Morrell, and the Bradley for a few years now! Keep these stories coming HMM!

[@HistoryMysteryMan]

Yeah...it's easy to get hooked on this stuff. Thanks for watching! HMM

[@Peter.w]

We need more of Capt Darrell

[@HistoryMysteryMan]

Duly noted! Thanks for watching...HMM

[@jimross6094]

I always enjoy listening to Captain Darrell

[@HistoryMysteryMan]

Me too! He's the best! Thanks for watching...HMM

[@fluxerflixer1]

Keep them coming. Pretty soon, they will be gone forever. Capture them now. THANK YOU FOR WHAT YOU DO.

[@HistoryMysteryMan]

You're welcome; thanks for watching! HMM

[@RomeroTV]

Yesssss !

[@jeremymcmanus6624]

Captain Walton is all aces! I could listen to him tell stories all day! Enjoy all you and his videos!

[@HistoryMysteryMan]

You and me both, Jeremy. Thanks for watching...HMM

[@stynger007]

Captain Darrell is a great story teller. So many of these freighters split in 2 , lack of maintenance seems to be the common denominator. No other ship sinkings on the great lakes since the Fitz. No one allowed to dive on her either. Liabilities are still a thing same as the lie about the Bradley being in one piece when it was in two. Captain Darrell was right, corporate greed superceded safety. Thanks again for this channel HMM, keep them coming! 👍

[@HistoryMysteryMan]

You're always welcome; thanks for your support. Capt. Darrell is the best! HMM

[@gilliankingston8259]

Maybe not just about where the blame is laid or not or insurance/compensation being due but also a maintenance/repair issue; surely, of course, from a human standpoint regarding the safety and wellbeing of the Crew Members but also the value of the ship herself it makes more sense to keep her well maintained and in good repair than run her into the ground so she becomes worth little more than scrap (possibly at the cost of a cargo run or two)?

[@loricharpentier1654]

Captain Darrell is a wonderful storyteller, and it's all so factual. I would love to meet him in person.

[@HistoryMysteryMan]

Thanks Lori...I'm sure he'd be glad to meet you. Thanks for watching! HMM

[@RAV1953]

My heart goes out to all survivors of these sinkings....especially the children who were orphaned. May all find peace and of course, RIP to all who died. BTW, another excellent video!!

[@HistoryMysteryMan]

Thanks again, R.A.V. So appreciated. HMM

[@artvandelay1099]

As someone with ties to Rogers City and who has spent a lot of time there, thanks for covering the topic. I have family in the Rogers City area and I had a great uncle who did some work on the Bradley fleet. My uncle also worked at Calcite and I had some cousins who worked at Calcite. It was a tremendous disaster for that little town. I don't know anyone who was lost in the wreck, but my uncle and cousins did. Some of the people in Rogers City felt forgotten about and marginalized after the Fitzgerald disaster. The Bradley disaster was worse, after all. When the Gordon Lightfoot song would come on the radio my uncle would turn the channel "ugh, this song again". I don't think he was serious. But the people in Rogers City did feel like they were forgotten about and overshadowed by the Fitzgerald sinking. I got to meet Frank Mays, he was a nice man. I fished for minnows with him. The town of Rogers City just got the bell off the Bradley 10 years ago or so.

[@HistoryMysteryMan]

Wow...you fished with Frank Mays! I'm jealous. I wish so bad I would have taken the time to meet him...and I'm angry at myself for not doing so. I really want to visit Rogers City soon; I can't imagine the effect the tragedy had on that little lake town. Thanks for your support! HMM

[@J.Runk81]

Another great video guys. I’m 41 and have never sailed but find my self absolutely enamored by these stories. Thanks HMM!

[@HistoryMysteryMan]

You're very welcome; thanks for taking the time to watch! HMM

[@robertayers9424]

Thanks again! The conversation with Captain Darrell was another great one!

[@HistoryMysteryMan]

Thanks, sir! HMM

[@beberle9641]

Thanks for another great video HMM. RIP to all we have lost to the mighty Great Lakes. See you on the next video. Brian

[@HistoryMysteryMan]

You got it Brian; thanks for your continued support...always appreciated! HMM

[@MikeHunt-fo3ow]

good stuff......ever interview an old timer tig boat worker........im sure they got epic stories

[@HistoryMysteryMan]

I'd love to interview an old-time tugboat worker. My stepdad was a tug captain, as I was/am. Maybe I should interview myself. Thanks for watching...HMM

[@rogerozdarski2935]

Thank you HMM. Thanks for keeping the memories of these work horses of the lakes alive. It's such a shame so many lives have been lost for the almight dollar.

[@HistoryMysteryMan]

You're welcome Roger; I always appreciate hearing from you. HMM

[@insertnamehere313]

It feels like Christmas every time when you're video's pops up on my notifications.😁

[@andrewnorris1514]

Me too!

[@HistoryMysteryMan]

Thanks...I appreciate you taking the time to watch! HMM

[@Peter.w]

another great video HMM, Capt Darrell is an amazing guy. Thanks for this new video on the Bradley.. a ship loss that was overshadowed by the Fitz Tragedy...

[@HistoryMysteryMan]

Thanks...so appreciated. I know Capt. Darrell digs it too! HMM

[@donmcnally9063]

Really enjoy your channel!!

[@HistoryMysteryMan]

Thanks Don...so appreciated. HMM

[@timlewis9873]

I really appreciate Capt. Darrells knowlege of the Great Lakes shipping. Thank you.

[@HistoryMysteryMan]

Thanks! HMM

[@chrisheinen9628]

Great story 👍👍

[@HistoryMysteryMan]

Thanks Chris...greatly appreciated. HMM

[@gwest3523]

I really appreciate your videos, contributions & passion. I come from a family with my father as an ICW captain. Your videos really help me as my father is no longer with us. I’m on a GB42 in the Puget Sound and really enjoy learning more of life on The Lakes…MUCH more challenging environment on The Lakes. Continued peace & strength for more detailed & insightful videos.

[@HistoryMysteryMan]

@@gwest3523 Thank you so much...greatly appreciated. I'll have to look up what exactly a GB42 is. Thanks for your wished of peace and strength...can't get enough of that. HMM

[@gwest3523]

@@HistoryMysteryMan Grand Banks 42’. Peace and keep ‘em coming. Love your approach/history/commentary.

[@HistoryMysteryMan]

@@gwest3523 Sooo appreciated...thanks!

[@tjhookit]

ALWAYS a good evening when I get home and see a new video from HMM with Capt. Darrell.........thank you sir, salute!

[@HistoryMysteryMan]

You're always welcome; thanks for taking the time to watch! HMM

[@burker1301]

Yet another fantastic job do you and captain Darrell make a great pair. The port town of Roger city is 30 miles north of my hometown of Alpena. All those crew men passed away had a profound effect on that little town of about 3200 people. There’s a beautiful memorial down on the lake dedicated to the crewmembers of the Bradley. I worked with a fellow state trooper whose father was lost on that ship, he was just a little boy when that happened. Keep up the great work. Tell Captain Darrell he needs to get his own podcast going he’s quite the colorful character. Love hearing him. By the way, I got a tour of the Arthur Anderson at calcite harbor when my buddy was human resource Director for calcite about 20 years ago. That was cool.

[@HistoryMysteryMan]

Thanks for your support! I've never been to Rogers City, but we used to go into Alpena with our Tug and Barge...loved that town. I wonder who your fellow state trooper's name was? His dad's name? Thanks for your service as a state trooper! I've already said to Capt. Darrell that he should start his own KZbin channel. I'm certain he would be successful at it. But...to do it right, you have to be willing to commit 8-10 hours a day, every day, to make 'em go. It's a ton of work and commitment, but worth it. HMM

[@difreighterwatcher8603]

Thank you so much for recording these conversations with Captain Darrell. I must confess I could make a plate of cookies, brownies or cinnamon rolls (whichever the Captain prefers) and a pot of Coffee and listen for Hours to the stories of Sailing the Great Lakes this Treasure of a Man could recall. Bless you and bless Captain Darrell, these videos are Gifts.

[@HistoryMysteryMan]

Thanks! I consider your remarks as high compliments, and I'm so grateful. Thanks for watching! HMM

[@goaskmymom1350]

I spent countless hours trolling/fishing Lake Michigan between Milwaukee and Sheboygan. That lake can change in a heartbeat! Got caught in a storm with 25' swells and thought we'd never make it back to shore, I'll never forget the feeling of, 'this is it, just walls of black water totally surrounding us!" We were very fortunate to make it back whole!! I love watching your videos and find your in depth narration is always captivating! Keep up the great work!

[@HistoryMysteryMan]

Thank you so much...and thanks for sharing your stories here on your adventures in Lake Michigan...sounds scary. HMM

[@wordenentertainment1997]

Another fantastic video! I'm curious about CAPT. DARRELL's opinion of a film adaptation to these great lakes freighters? I know I want to do one of the Edmund Fitzgerald, but I would also do ones on both the Morell and the Bradly, but tell them in a honest and respectful way. Love hearing his stories.

[@HistoryMysteryMan]

Thanks for watching. I'd love it someone would produce movies on the Bradley and the Morrell...I'd love to see someone else's take on what happened. Thanks for sharing your thoughts here. HMM

[@darrellwalton938]

A movie about the "Fitz" is long overdue. How about Brad Pitt as Capt. McShorly!

[@neuralmute]

@@darrellwalton938 Hmm, Brad Pitt is a bit young for the part... How about getting Hugh Laurie to dust off his American accent to play a gruff freighter captain? And Jared Harris as Captain Bernie Cooper - he's got the look, he can do the accent too, and he's one of the best actors out there.

[@riverbender9898]

Another "riveting" tale! Thank You.

[@HistoryMysteryMan]

You're welcome riverbender; thanks for watching! HMM

[@chuckg6039]

Both you Captains did a wonderful job with this video. Just wonderful. But what a sad story to tell.

[@HistoryMysteryMan]

Thanks ole friend! Always appreciated. HMM

[@hambam7533]

one more thing you two guys make a good team your like two old friends that get together and reminece about the old days nice job gentlemen

[@HistoryMysteryMan]

Thanks! So appreciated! HMM

[@sikohki_7]

Fascinating discussion about another fateful maritime story. Keep 'em coming.👍

[@HistoryMysteryMan]

Thanks...more on the way! HMM

[@JohnnyLaps]

Love it,thank you again for the content.i could listen to you guys talk about the structure of a potato chip for three hours!!

[@HistoryMysteryMan]

The structure of a potato chip...sounds like the perfect content for the next one. Then we eat the whole bag. Thanks again, John...HMM

[@JohnnyLaps]

@@HistoryMysteryMan I will be there!!

[@critterscute3642]

Another masterpiece. Thank you! ❤

[@HistoryMysteryMan]

Thank you so much. I appreciate your support! HMM

[@johnbloemendal7593]

Saw this and couldn't click fast enough!❤️

[@HistoryMysteryMan]

Thanks John...greatly appreciated. HMM

[@stevenreynolds8393]

Another great video! I remember all three events, the Bradley, Morrell and Fitzgerald and was looking forward to your coverage of the Carl Bradley. My aunt was originally from Rogers City. Her family was in the fishing business and worked on the lake. I don't believe any of her relatives were on the Carl Bradley. However, I'm sure that her relatives perhaps knew some of the effected families. Rogers City is a small community.

[@HistoryMysteryMan]

Thanks Steven. I can't imagine the effect the Bradley had on Rogers City...being that 23 of the men who died lived there. I appreciate you taking the time to watch! HMM

[@ajbaumgart4774]

History mystery man and captain Walton for telling these men's stories and keeping their memories alive I always enjoy hearing these stories these brave men who died on the lakes deserve to have their ships and memories kept alive just sad that these ships had to sink and sailors have lost their lives it just amazes me that great lakes Captain's like yourself and Mr Walton want to keep the memories going big thank you to the both of you I just love our great lakes and our history around our great lakes

[@HistoryMysteryMan]

Thanks again, Aj...sure appreciate your support. HMM

[@todddickinson3262]

Man I watch every channel on KZbin that has anything to do with the Great Lake ships, and yours is by far the best. One of the reasons that is the case is that you have Captain Darrell and nobody else does. He is absolutely mesmerizing, and as I’ve commented before, I could listen to the two of you guys talk all things Great Lakes for hours. Another great video man, and can’t wait for the next one!

[@HistoryMysteryMan]

Thanks again, Todd...I really appreciate that. And I know Capt. Darrell does too. Sure appreciate your support...HMM

[@hectorlumbagoCringe]

You, and this gentleman have incredible chemistry. Now I know everyone says this but, a podcast that’s biweekly or monthly while you guys discuss mysteries of the Great Lakes or maritime history in general would kick major butt.

[@HistoryMysteryMan]

Now that's the Best Idea of the Day Award for you Hector. Based on your feedback, there'll be more on the way. Thanks again, my new friend. HMM

[@rickbrandt9559]

like your stuff. Do speedway Motors Museum too.

[@HistoryMysteryMan]

Thanks! Are you talking about the Indianapolis Motor Speedway museum? HMM

[@KubotaBXathome]

You and the Captain are a fantastic tag team. You lay down well researched facts, he speaks his experience and knowledge, yet another stellar video. Thanks so much!

[@HistoryMysteryMan]

Thanks again...so appreciated! HMM

[@josh4125]

I hope you guys keep up all these wonderful conversations so all the sailors legacies never die. rest in peace men

[@HistoryMysteryMan]

Full speed ahead with Capt. Darrell. Thanks again, Josh! HMM

[@michaelnault5905]

That storm 'did' terrorize the country. I read rescue efforts had to contend with Mississippi River barge radio traffic well they were fighting the same storm. Great video! I've enjoyed Capt Darrell's insights before. I'm glad he's made himself available.

[@HistoryMysteryMan]

Yep...Capt. Darrell is turning into a rockstar. Thanks for watching, Michael...HMM

[@Rammstein0963.]

Mr. Darrell is a legend, we should listen to the keepers of history like him while we still can, they won't be around soon enough.

[@HistoryMysteryMan]

Thanks...great point. That's, in part, why I'm recording all these interviews...to lay the history down for future generations. Great feedback! HMM

[@darrellwalton938]

I plan on being around for a while, if the “Good Lord’s willing, and the Creek don’t rise! Thanks for watching!

[@HistoryMysteryMan]

@@darrellwalton938 In that case, I'll sign you for a 50-year contract!

[@JMK571]

My Mom’s Uncle, Joe Krawczak, died on this wreck. His family is pictured at 0:16 . And I agree that this story would make a wonderful film. I know there has been some discussion about it over the years, but I don’t know how far that has gotten. There is a wonderful documentary called November Requiem about the incident and the raising of the ships bell. One last thing to note-The story about the Bradley breaking in two is FALSE. I am friends with Ric Mixter, a well respected Great Lakes shipwreck historian and expert and he has told me that there is sonar proof that the Bradley is ripped apart, but not broken. According to Ric, the keel or the unloading belt held the ship together so that it did not completely break apart. If the Bradley broke apart into two pieces, it is more likely that the aft end would have sailed on, exactly like the Morrell. What really happened was that the ship split, flooded, and the forward end (still attached to the aft) pulled the aft end up, out of the water, and then down to the bottom. This is why both sections are sitting more or less in line and upright on the bottom of Lake Michigan.

[@HistoryMysteryMan]

Yeah...that photo of Krawczak and his family is haunting...and so sad. What a beautiful family he had. Interesting on the Bradley wreckage, especially since Frank Mays said he saw it break apart on the surface, and then saw it in two pieces on the bottom. I'm not discrediting anyone, but I'm not convinced either way. Experts will also tell me they know what happened to the Fitz when we will never definitively know what happened to the Fitz, short of video footage of it going down...and I'm pretty sure that doesn't exist. Thanks for writing in; I enjoyed hearing your take. HMM

[@JMK571]

@@HistoryMysteryMan You are 100% correct-the complete truth to these tragedies will never be known. The only thing I can think that would span both possibilities is that it ripped on the surface and was open like a hinge as it dove. This may have made it appear to Mays as though it was broken. And as for the video evidence showing it broken on the bottom, everything I’ve seen and read from unbiased people who have seen the footage say it is, at best, inconclusive due to the poor visibility. But, as you said, short of being there when it happened or conclusive evidence in the future, we’ll never know. And really, in the end, it doesn’t matter. It was a tragedy to the men lost and their families and loved ones. Thank you for these videos and for telling these stories, I really enjoy them!!

[@HistoryMysteryMan]

Excellent points, and I'm so glad you shared them here...could not have said it better. You're absolutely correct...in the end it doesn't matter and nothing can bring those men back. Thanks for your support...and thanks for watching. HMM

[@WilliamBolger]

Another fine documentary, I love it thanks guys 👍👍

[@HistoryMysteryMan]

You're always welcome; thanks again, William. HMM

[@kimfleury]

I just left a long comment on that other video about Bud Robinson! 🤣 I should've finished the playlist before I went back to comment 🤣

[@huntm7592]

I have been on a 100ft wooden fishing boat in the Gulf of Mexico. That was losing planks on wood in a storm in the winter taking on a lot of water. Could only imagine what they went thur on them ships in the lakes. I know what wooden timber on a boat sound like when they snap and break gives me chills still. Boat I was on we saved tho just barely but we saved it from sinking.

[@HistoryMysteryMan]

Thanks...great stories; thanks for sharing them here. The splitting of wood would be terrifying...but the splitting of steel would be beyond terrifying...the frightening noise that would make. Thanks for watching! HMM

[@toddgilmore8412]

I have a new respect for the harsh weather conditions in Nov in the Great Lakes. I just can't imagine the feeling of being onboard a freighter that is in the process of breaking up. The fixed life raft was very crude but effective. It was truly a miracle that 2 crewmen survived after such a long period on the raft.

[@HistoryMysteryMan]

The story of the Bradley is off-the-charts amazing. And to think one of the survivors (Frank Mays) died just three years ago. I'm kicking myself where it counts for not having the savvy to interview him when I had the chance. Thanks Todd...HMM

[@andrewnorris1514]

HHM you gotta get to Roger's City. Cool Place

[@HistoryMysteryMan]

I know...I'll be planning a trip to Rogers City; I guarantee you that. Thanks again, Andrew...HMM

[@andrewnorris1514]

@HistoryMysteryMan Richard Book died 11/18/58. He was a watchmen from Shelby county, Iowa. I looked him up cuz he was not from Michigan . Turns out he was raised by his older brother Melvin after his parents passed in 40 and 41. Richard's brother Mel was 18 and raised his 3 siblings. On top of that Melvin raised his own family right down the road from a long time friend of mine in Portsmouth IA. Very interesting reading

[@chuckg6039]

I loved visiting Rogers City. First time was with my parents in the 1970s. They had a cruiser based in Toledo. The last was 3 years ago. I biked the Sunrise Trail and then pedaled through town to the Calcite stone quarry.

[@HistoryMysteryMan]

@@chuckg6039 I really want to get to Rogers City soon...never been. Thanks again, Chuck. HMM

[@HistoryMysteryMan]

@@andrewnorris1514 So you're saying Mr. Book went down on the Bradley? Thanks Andrew...HMM

[@DonRRicks]

I look forward to, and thoroughly enjoy your videos. This one did not disappoint The Bradley appears different to me, as the cause of this tragedy was strictly on the shoulders of the owners. They preferred dollars to the welfare and safety of the Carl Bradley’s crew. I encourage you to read Mr Mays obituary. He lived an awesome life, and accomplished so much after the tragedy Mr Mays was only 4 days shy of his 27th birthday, and passed away in 2021. Mr Fleming was in his 40s when the Bradley sank, but passed away at the age of 53 in 1969.

[@HistoryMysteryMan]

Thanks, sir. On your recommendation, I will be reading Mr. Mays' obit. I wonder how Mr. Fleming died?... being so young. Thanks for watching! HMM

[@darrellwalton938]

Frank May's was 89 years old when he passed away. He was in his 40,s at the time of the sinking . I got the chance to meet him. He was very nice to me.

[@kelcritcarroll]

My husband worked for olgleby norton / Columbia transportation ….sailed twenty two years for that company as an officer in the engine room.

[@HistoryMysteryMan]

Wow! That's super interesting. Did your husband sail after the Fitz went down? Thanks for watching...HMM

[@choxxxieful]

I remember this when I was a child. I went to a summer camp near Frankfort, MI in the summer of 1959 and the sinking was still being duscussed in the area.

[@HistoryMysteryMan]

That's a super interesting childhood memory; thanks for sharing it here...and thanks for watching! HMM

[@Trinitystillmyname]

Help me understand. I do not know the correct answer. If a private citizen has a ice shanty, atv, car, sink ibto a lake. That person is responsible to remove it. They are fined every day until that equipnent is removed. Why are shipping companies allowed to leave or abandon ships in the Great Lakes?

[@HistoryMysteryMan]

That's a very good/fair question...one I don't have an answer for. I can dig into it, however. Thanks for watching...HMM

[@ostrich67]

Because they are rich and powerful and we're not.

[@Ro6entX]

The loss of the Carl B has always been overshadowed by loss of the EF.

[@HistoryMysteryMan]

No doubt...thanks. HMM

[@alonzovillarreal4666]

I used to work at Buffington harbor at a cement plant. We used to load coke into Canadian Steamship ships. I’d sit in that boat loading tower marveling at how huge and amazing these ships are.

[@HistoryMysteryMan]

Thanks for sharing your stories here! HMM

[@hambam7533]

My college roommate and friend was from Rogers city

[@HistoryMysteryMan]

Awesome. I've never been there, but I want to go...soon. Thanks for watching! HMM

[@LadyOaksNZ]

Great hearing from you both! Subscribing.

[@HistoryMysteryMan]

Thank you! I really appreciate that...stop by anytime. HMM

[@lazyrrr2411]

Thank You, Gentlemen ... The Bradley is "MY" wreck - living only a few miles from Seul Choix Pte. lighthouse ⚓ On a clear day you can make out the silhouette of Gull Island in the distance ~ and you Know that's where The Bradley went down. They put up a nifty little memorial to it all, at a lakeside park in Manistique proper ... unfortunately it often gets swept away & there's no big budget to keep it cleaned up . STILL , it's 10x better than nothing .

[@HistoryMysteryMan]

So interesting. Now I want to visit that "little memorial". I'll bring my broom to help sweep up. Thanks for watching! HMM

[@lazyrrr2411]

@@HistoryMysteryMan There are signs along US 2 with a big picture of The Bradley, so you can't miss the park . The memorial is designed to inherently face you in the direction of the sinking . The Seul Choix Pte. lighthouse 💡is open for visitors all season .

[@HistoryMysteryMan]

@@lazyrrr2411 Thanks again...I appreciate your information! HMM

[@georgeadams8230]

That's a horrific story.

[@HistoryMysteryMan]

It certainly is; thanks for watching, George. HMM

[@phillipgarrow2297]

My grandfather knew most of the men he actually sailed on the first CarlDBradley the one that sunk was the 2nd CarlDBradley

[@HistoryMysteryMan]

Wow...I didn't know there was a "first" Carl D. Bradley! Thanks for sharing that here...and thanks for watching! HMM

[@pixelshark6809]

First comment! Woot! 🙌

[@difreighterwatcher8603]

Another Capt. Darrell video, Woot Woot!👍

[@pixelshark6809]

@@difreighterwatcher8603 I love the Capt. Darrell videos! 🙌

[@HistoryMysteryMan]

I like that comment! Thanks...HMM

[@HistoryMysteryMan]

You and me both brother. Thanks for your support...HMM

[@pixelshark6809]

@@HistoryMysteryMan Thank you so much for these videos! 🙏 I love them so much.

[@lisaharrod8386]

Why aren't the owners and insurance companies held accountable for sending crews out in bad weather in sub par vessels? For that matter, the Coast Guard and oversight authorities should be investigated for allowing these ships to sail in unsafe ships. All of these entities should be investigated for covering up evidence of negligent maintenance, over loading, and for dangerous shipping practices.

[@HistoryMysteryMan]

Good question; thanks for asking it here. And thanks for your support of the channel. HMM

[@matthewcosta780]

Hey guys, saw a video on a different channel about the Bradley's sister ship the Cedarville and it sinking. When are you going to do a video on it?

[@HistoryMysteryMan]

That's an interesting idea; I'll ask Capt. D about it. Thanks for the idea. HMM

[@jamesmccarthy5086]

I’ve seen interviews of Frank Mays before and it’s unbelievable what they went through. And they got no compensation either for the disaster either. From the interviews I’ve seen of Mays he’s never seemed embittered towards anyone but man I wonder what he thought of the Coast Guard and what the company ( whoever dove to the ship in 59) had said of the ship that she didn’t break. Did Elmer Fleming ever give any interviews or like writings or anything like that? If so I’d love to know. And love the detail you both gave on the ship on the day she went down. Thank you for keeping their legacy alive.

[@HistoryMysteryMan]

You're welcome; thanks James. I have never seen a video on Fleming...sure would be something to find one. HMM

[@jamesmccarthy5086]

@@HistoryMysteryMan I hope we can see one one day. Or even if it’s in writing. If I do come across some thing. I’ll let you know!

[@gregj831]

Those Lakes are bad news in November. That ship was ripped right in half.

[@HistoryMysteryMan]

The Great Lakes and November are scary days for sure. Thanks for watching, Greg...HMM

[@merriame9487]

It's SS Carl D. Bradley day!!

[@HistoryMysteryMan]

Thanks for the reminder...HMM

[@dknowles60]

it should be noted at the carl bradley hearings that Elmer Fleming Could not sat to much at the Hearing as he was Going Back to The Bradley company for a Job

[@HistoryMysteryMan]

Interesting...I didn't know that. And yes, Fleming went right back to his merchant marine career...thanks. HMM

[@kelcritcarroll]

In that photo at first look how beat up that bow is……….I was marred to a sailor that worked for olgleby norton as an engineer and this makes me mad…..the company knew the weather was horrible and ordered them to do this trip is irritating

[@HistoryMysteryMan]

Thanks for sharing your thoughts here...super interesting. HMM

[@jayhopkins6990]

Have they consider that maybe some welding done on the deck maybe have started açrack .The reason that I say this is because I am a welder of 39 yrs and I have seen a bad stop on a weld turn into a crack After working and flexing for 20 years .

[@HistoryMysteryMan]

Your assessment makes good sense to me; thanks for sharing your thoughts here, Jay! HMM

[@kpd3308]

I love your image of the "suit" making the call for the Bradley to make one last trip. Not that I'm insensitive to the tragedy that ensued. I'm sorry to say it, but part of the captain's job is to protect his crew by knowing when to tell corporate they're not going out. He ran contrary to the judgement of a number of other captains who made the right call.

[@HistoryMysteryMan]

Understood...it was a different era when the Fitz sailed. There was a lot of pressure on Captains to go, go, go. It's changed now, in part for liability reasons. Corporations are more willing now to wait the weather out. Thanks! HMM

[@Worldviewsandthoughts]

Companies will get rid of a ship by accident just to not spend money on refit!

[@danalarose846]

HMM, do you know if the Bradley's lifeboats were made of wood or steel?

[@HistoryMysteryMan]

I'm thinking steel, but I bet I can find out for sure. Thanks again, Dana...HMM

[@deniseflahavin3031]

Whose bright idea is it to make one more trip? Whose bright idea to load 26,000 tonne load on the Fitz in November? The Captain, the employer, the recipient of cargo, the owner of the ship?

[@HistoryMysteryMan]

As best as I can tell, the company (Columbia Transportation) wanted "one more trip"... thanks for watching. HMM

[@joeanderson9852]

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[@loricharpentier1654]

What is it with the month of November???

[@HistoryMysteryMan]

Best question of the day award...HMM

[@hollymartins6913]

Global Marine was a little company owned by a fellow named Howard Hughes.. Global Marine later custom built a vessel, in conjunction with the CIA, for the express purpose of stealing a sunken Soviet ballistic missile submarine 3 & 1/2 miles beneath the north Pacific.

[@HistoryMysteryMan]

Super interesting! I had no idea. Thanks for sharing this here! HMM

[@ZombieSlayer-dj3wb]

I wonder if its keel held cause of how the wreck is

[@HistoryMysteryMan]

Good question...HMM

[@jeffpotipco736]

I dont see any signs of an explosion on the wreck. Am I looking in the wrong place?

[@HistoryMysteryMan]

Let me dig into this...gunna have to refresh myself on this one. Thanks...HMM

[@aaajjjj58]

Yes a Movie Should Be Made-Based On The Truth-And Nothing But💯💯💯❤‍🩹❤‍🩹❤‍🩹

[@HistoryMysteryMan]

I'm with you on the movie, Cindy. Thanks again...HMM