The destruction of the bodies at Treblinka

In this video I discuss from Treblinka how the bodies of the approximately 900,000 victims were destroyed, initially by burial and then by fire.

[@j.b.macadam6516]

I used to work in a shop that dealt with military collectibles. During my time there, I occasionally saw items from the death camps. Handling them was disturbing, but I realized that they were solid evidence of horrific crimes against Humanity and therefore, needed to be preserved as a reminder and warning!

[@MrElliotc02]

The historian Jan Gross wrote a book about the human remains of Treblinka called Golden Harvest. It is among the most disturbing books about the post Holocaust period I have read.

[@CutieJones1972]

Terrible place, terrible history. Forever stained by these awful acts. I have never visited the site, I have been to Auschwitz-Birkenau, nor Chelmno or Sobibor or Belzec. I don't know if I could even though they interest me historically. It was enough to sit through Lanzmann's Shoah to get a feeling of Treblinka, especially his interviews with survivors and Franz Suchomel. It's important to know and not to forget, ever, that this happened. I agree with you, Katyn Wood is most likely the factor that led to the pyres, that and the realisation that the Soviets may have discovered it if the War in the East went that way. These camps were a Staatsgeheim (state secret) so some kind of incineration of the corpses may have been expedient to avoid Enemy propaganda using their existence against the Third Reich. That said, the Polish Underground had passed on information about them to the Allies, but it was all just too unbelievable. There was no historical precedent at that time, and I should imagine that it was difficult to gauge just exactly what was going on. The Allies had the Hoffle decrypt, but could not put it all altogether or they had other military priorities to consider. Truly tragic. Thank you Alan. Respectfully presented as per usual.

[@grandaddyoe1434]

* no historical precedent * The Armenian genocide, pepetrated in WW1 by Ottoman Turks, muz vs Christians.

[@HistoryonYouTube]

Thank you!

[@mohammedsaysrashid3587]

An excellent introduction episode about Nazism regime atrocities committed by Anzas groups in( Treblinka) & burning corpses of victims..in Poland 🇵🇱 during WW2. Episode shared by an amazing ( history on KZbin) introduced by Sir Alan 🙏

[@suepalin9202]

Excellent and thought-provoking video. What are those bee-hive-looking structures in the ground? As ever, thanks, Alan.

[@biffruttigan7241]

I'm curious, but he claims that 900,000 people were killed in 15 months, which equates to 1 person every 45 seconds or 1,920 people a day. How is it possible to transport, eliminate, and get rid of 1920 bodies a day? It isn't.

[@HistoryonYouTube]

Thanks Sue, the bee hive things are related to ceremonial use of candles I think.

[@jimhays2772]

After living in Berlin and visiting Dachau and Aushwitz it's still so hard to wrap my head around the scale of death on the Eastern front from Germany and Russia. Not only in war but opon Jews ,Civilians, prisoners and others.

[@dolinaj1]

How can that be? Such industrialized, state-sanctioned murders might have been hard to believe in 1945, but surely not now.

[@rexmasters1541]

I have a footlocker from an Uncle who ran a death camp. Uniforms, daggers, everything. My Grandfather brought it home after the war. It sat hidden away until 2005 when we cleaned out my Grand mother's home. I think I may donate everything to a museum at some point. I keep everything hidden away except for a Hitler Youth dagger. People try to steal it.

[@browngreen933]

Which Death Camp was it?

[@davidleonard1813]

Screw donating it. When I was a kid I could see why as entry was free to museums. Not now, entry fee, curaters on obscene wages, all museums are just a business so sell it to the highest bidder. I'm of the same opinion on any item. Nothing is holy, reverent, pays respect to fallen soldiers, art that brings beauty to people's live. It doesn't matter what type of museum they are a money making machine and will cry poor, or try emotional pleas to get you to donate, while on the other hand they take their profits and are buying stuff at auctions all the time

[@davids8481]

If your statements are accurate. I wouldn't do a darn thing. Why, you will instantly become the poster child of everything Nazi's did. Your life will be turned upside down. Last thing is to be on 60 min, Frontline, Good morning america, the Guardian, and et all. If you have family with kids, just forget it. You could lose your job, neighbors will demand you move like your a sex offender and so on. The Hitler Youth dagger I suspect will be especially disturbing if it includes the cub scout like outfit. Eeek, don't do it. Put it in your trust, for the next person to handle or maybe give it away anonymously to a Jewish museum showing their atrocities. Good luck.

[@lukebloom9785]

Hello @rexmasters1541 I have been a researcher if this subject and WW2 for years. Very interested in hearing about this history and any details and pictures of what was in the footlocker. I have successfully used similiar information to identify an SS war criminal for a renown museum in the US. Would be very interested if somehow messaging me? My skills on these apps are not very good haha. Luke

[@dolinaj1]

@@davidleonard1813 WTF?! Museums and their highly educated staff exist to educate everyone, especially those who are illiterate, unable to travel for whatever reasons, and those such as you, Mr Leonard. Your comment is ludicrous and oddly angry.

[@sandysue202]

Oh my! All those stones!! How can anyone say that the Holocaust never happened?? I will never get to see these places with my own eyes, but my heart hurts so much to comprehend what men can do to other men just because of hate. This is such a sad, sad place, but we just cannot ever fail to remember the precious souls who's lives were taken right at this place. Their blood still calls out for us to think of them, all these many years later.💔

[@biffruttigan7241]

He claims that 900,000 people were killed in 15 months, which equates to 1 person every 45 seconds or 1,920 people a day. How is it possible transport, eliminate, and get rid of 1920 bodies a day? It isn't.

[@kaycox5555]

I appreciate your channel, for the history AND for going to all the places in WW2 era history, that I cannot go to. Love your information, background and history as provided. Keep up the TERRIFIC work, and thank you sir!

[@HistoryonYouTube]

Thanks Kay!

[@lapinfacedelion]

Terrible... The worst thing about that is n 2:01 nothing changed...

[@tomabbott5259]

That is it as in a film the young lions a german officer sums up quote"After all the arms and the legs have been blown off it doesnt matter because nothing ever really changes"and look at people nowdays the bad people are given positions of power and my how they enjoy putting down weak people a hurting word here an evil look there thats how it starts because people dont say no to these things only money is all in all to people 😢

[@wirecutter59]

Thank you, sir, for ensuring that this evil part of our history is not forgotten. The victims deserve to be remembered.

[@ElCid48]

I agree. people today do not know history or the truth of what happen anywhere. we need people like this man showing the truth

[@David-p9p1z]

From what I read the burning of bodies was R&D/experimental burnings in fire science in how to bodies can burn efficient to time and quantity...all this was carried out at Treblinka.

[@i8amouse]

humans did this. We are humans. We are all stained.

[@terrioestreich4007]

Don't include everyone in this, if you want to flog yourself go ahead but don't try to speak for everyone else

[@kr-pm1xg]

🌴😒 Yeah..."stained"..... Some parts worse than others, too.

[@renee1961]

Hello,Alan! I'm watching your Premiere! Beautiful Intro! Thank you, and enjoy your weekend!

[@HistoryonYouTube]

Thanks for coming Renee!

[@teeguy100]

Thanks again Alan!

[@carbinewilliams9943]

I think the W.E.F. may have a similar idea for the citizens of Europe.

[@bar10ml44]

You bet they do but most are so stupid they can't see it.

[@whathappened2230]

The WEF is the new third Reich. Look into Unkle Klaus.. and the others. You will find direct connections. Do your own research and see it for yourself.

[@davidgates4450]

The best description of the horrors of Treblinka are in the book 'A Wrirer At War' by the Jewish-Soviet War Correspondant Vasily Grossmann, edited by Antony Beavor... Grossmann's article was used in the Nürnberg Trials... He was with the Soviet forces that found the then largely erased site, but pieced together evidence from survivors and locals.... The chapter should be part of EVERY School curriculum as well as forced reading for neo-Nazi activists and apologists... Grossman's mother was 'liquidated' by the Nazis as part of the Babi Yar 'Operations'..... To venerate Nazi ideologies is so utterly disgusting that it beggers belief..That it's echoes are present in US politics should be taken very seriously... It's like the Christian Church applauding the worst excesses of the Inquisition.... Nazi doctrines are an abomination..

[@richardque1036]

His book was ban in the ussr.

[@grandaddyoe1434]

@@richardque1036 USSR had its own gulags . . .

[@edwardd9702]

@@davidgates4450 Trap With A Green Fence is worth a read.

[@wingnut71]

@@davidgates4450 hmm Written by a Jewish communist. So totally impartial then. Lol. These were the same people who murdered thousands of Poles at Katyn Forrest and then lied to the world about it. Why should I believe anything they say? Either produce the evidence or stfu. We know the media lie all the damn time. I don't believe mere "stories" when no solid evidence exists, so Treblinka is to me just a "maybe true/ maybe not".

[@terrancenorris9992]

The nazis disinterred the remains and burned them trying to remove the evidence of their horrific crime against humanity.

[@debrapaulino918]

Thank for this work. A book called 'Saving What Remains' the author is the grand daughter of Czech jews. She and her husband have a week to fly there get all details put together and get her grandparents bones exhumed and reinterred in Jerusalem. A dam was planned and the old jewish cemetery doomed to be submerged. Great read. It was scary for her as she was wanted from when she was 13 and eacaped with her mother and brother to NY.

[@davidmajer3652]

Using the term roast does seem to trivialize the severity of the event. Thank you for taking us to a place most of us will never visit.

[@zingwilder9989]

"Roasting Pits" was the phrase that was utilized by the Nazis involved in this horror. Alan was just stating what these perpetrators called it.

[@zingwilder9989]

Yes. Destroying evidence of a great crime was probably the primary motive. However, such an endeavor to incinerate the bodies of their Jewish victims was also another form of humiliation and contempt that the Nazis carried out.

[@Hemp1972]

Thank you for sharing. I'm sure I couldn't walk around there.

[@HistoryonYouTube]

Thanks for watching!

[@opossumlvr1023]

How much fuel does it take to consume bodys on a pyre?

[@charlesfarmer5749]

I read an account that said it depends on how they are arranged on the pyre. They had to get the fire started with wood on the bottom then the bodies would burn themselves. The fat ones burned better than the skinny ones and the old ones burned better than the young ones. The SS had to figure that out.

[@HistoryonYouTube]

How long is a piece of string? That depends on many factors. You need to be more specific.

[@ziggylycans]

@@HistoryonKZbin he is saying you have no evidence which he is right. how about some evidence instead of banter.

[@opossumlvr1023]

@@charlesfarmer5749 A traditional Hindu funeral pyre takes six hours and burns 500-600 kg (1,102-1,323 pounds) of wood to burn a body completely. Before any combustion will occur, a 68 kg body containing 65 percent water would require 100 MJ of thermal energy. Certainly these outdoor pyres would be visible in allied Reconnaissance photography from the period.

[@HistoryonYouTube]

@@ziggylycans I know perfectly well what he is getting at. You don't want evidence. All you know is your deep hatred for Jews - why not see a psychiatrist to help you work on this hatred?

[@john-oj1oj]

What are the black caps near the pyre?

[@zingwilder9989]

According to Muzeum Treblinka: Around the hollow there are several liquid fuel lamps, which, when lit, remind us that a pile of human bodies was burning in this place.

[@TheAlchaemist]

​@@zingwilder9989 thanks

[@zingwilder9989]

@@TheAlchaemist You're welcome. I was curious as well.

[@wayside70]

Did anyone escape treblinka?

[@saeran-neil522]

About 500 escaped in one attempt, but most were hunted down and only 100 survived the war.

[@nobutyeh]

When you say "This is my theory" that means it's just what you you think happened and not what really happened? I hope your not offended because I enjoy your vlogs

[@grandaddyoe1434]

Before prepring and releasing this video, deep research should have been done to produce answers. Offering so many questions simply wastes our time . . .

[@HistoryonYouTube]

If I say something is my theory then it was I think might have happened and others may think differently.

[@bretthewitt3890]

Horrific.

[@stevenorlowski6019]

I find the logistics regarding the excavation, cremation and burial of 900,000 corpses fascinating. This happened in the winter when everything is frozen and snow covered. I have read lots about this and I can't find answers to the following: Who did the work and what type of fuel was used? Was a subsurface study done to examine the soil conditions?

[@waynerobert7986]

A slight correction. Killing and burying was going on at Birkenau before the 4 Krematoria were built. This was at the little red house and little white house outside the Birkenau perimeter. The two cottages served as temporary gas chambers by sealing everything up. The bodies were causing pollution of the water table and creating a stench. The ground around Birkenau was marshy. Later those pre 1943 victims were dug up and burnt on pyres.

[@HistoryonYouTube]

I think that is what I said.

[@THX-ic8yw]

Dr George Sawicki, Attorney General of Poland, member of the War Crimes Commission and chief prosecutor at the Majdanek trails was himself a prisoner at Majdanek. He said that there were specially constructed gas chambers for children and all the inmates were forced to watch the children being marched in (Daily Mail October 11th 1945). This is now accepted as pure fantasy.

[@HistoryonYouTube]

@@THX-ic8yw Are you sure that Mr Sawicki's first name was George or are you making that one up?

[@lalomorales813]

👍🇲🇽

[@wildcolonialman]

Excellent effort, this is grim frontline narrative, and a learning curve. A Peoples murdered, Jesus the Vine, a Peoples enslaved, to Burn. Grim grim grim.

[@john-oj1oj]

Are those archeological pits being dug as well and are they possibly doing what they did at sobibor?

[@HistoryonYouTube]

What is an archaeological pit and what did they do at Sobibór?

[@john-oj1oj]

They dig to search for relics I believe and they spent years at sobibor digging and found the gas chambers and a lot of other things there are videos on KZbin about it

[@yesbutno3422]

I noticed the broken patches of earth too and was wondering

[@djboyle5607]

I didn't think that archaeological excavation or investigation was permitted as these are all protected places being Jewish grave sites. Once burned the remains were further crushed to a powder and scattered in rivers and landscape. The murdering scum left little evidence. Some years back a Jewish supervised dig was permitted but had to be superficial ground break. At once small items of children's clothes and esp a baby shoe was unearthed. I can rem now what camp site it was. The lead archaeologist herself Jewish couldn't continue and cried uncontrollably. The Rabbi in attendance wisely closed the dig. It was on TV a few years ago.

[@yesbutno3422]

@@djboyle5607 I think she was an Academic at an English University. I can't remember her name but I'm sure there is a presentation by her somewhere on KZbin. I recall they also excavated at the Treblinka labour camp, Treblinka I and possibly at a nearby official cemetary. I imagine the earth is littered with tiny bone fragments, like in Alan's old video at Chelmno

[@lamenzies]

Do you think that burning the bodies would have disrupted the smooth running of the camp? So much seemed to depend on lulling the victims then stunning them before rushing them to their deaths that I wonder what the effect of having mass burnings at the height of the camp's operation would have been.

[@nattygsbord]

But the Germans had 5 death camps running, so they could probably easily have closed down one camp and sent all victims to another camp instead while all work with burning bodies were going on. Belzec was a small and a very primitive camp, but still hundreds of thousands perished there. So the Germans could probably easily have opened a new such camp in a short period of time I guess. Treblinka also used pretty primitive technologies and still took the lives of perhaps 900.000 people. And when Auschwitz came into use in 1944 it was able to replace all the other 5 death camps, because its killing capacity was so enormous that no other camps were needed. It killed more than a million people. Most common number mentioned is 1.1- 1.2 million dead. But its own commendant bragged that 4 million people died there. The Germans could however been able to kill even more people there if they had wanted to. But by 1944 was there not much left of Europes jewish population so there was no need to keep all the other camps opened. The camp was if I remember correctly also able to gas much more people in a single day, than what the ovens could burn. So the cremation was probably what limited the capacity of this camp. However when the Germans were in a hurry to kill as many Hungarian jews as possible in a short period of time in 1944, could the ovens not burn people in the large numbers fast enough.. so some bodies were burned outside - which could be seen at photos preserved from that time.

[@HistoryonYouTube]

At the height of the mass killing, the bodies were being buried, but it must have had an effect later. The locals for a very wide area around the camp knew what was happening, they could not open the windows during the summer for example. The smoke must have been visible to new arrivals.

[@KingMob.]

Chil Rajchman's "Treblinka" is essential reading. One tough book to read as his eye witness account is horrific.

[@lablackzed]

Missed the notification just seen it.👍

[@HistoryonYouTube]

I will upload every day now until the end of the year at the same time but some videos will be short ones!

[@WadeRaney-vv5oi]

A Good Presentation on this horrible era,👋Alan

[@HistoryonYouTube]

Thanks Wade!

[@sahhaf1234]

Is there any archeological evidence of the dead people that is buried? Because if they fist buried, then exhumed and burned a few hundred thousand of bodies, surely some bone pieces, teeth etc should remain in the soil.

[@edwardd9702]

After the war the whole site was dug up by people searching for hidren jewish gold 'the treblinka gold rush". Apparently there were bones and pieces discarded all over by the digging. At Belzec, core drilling has been carried out that found metres of compressed bone fragments, even complete corpses preserved in human fat.

[@ziggylycans]

@@edwardd9702 wow preserved in human fat?! kinda like how they made soap out it instead of the thousands of other ways soap can be made? or like wooden doors.

[@HistoryonYouTube]

Less so at Treblinka but I have found bone fragments there. At Sobibór there are quite a lot of bone fragments and at Bełżec they quite literally littered the place. I have video on this channel at bone fragments at Chełmno nad Nerem.

[@edwardd9702]

There's an interesting site call "Belzec Excavations". In the late 90s they conducted over 2000 archaeological drillings at Belzec and found the graves.

[@ziggylycans]

@@HistoryonKZbin allied bombing of rail,road and bridges had nothing to do with the preventable deaths at these camps? also why have the numbers of the dead been revised so many times if it was all true from the start from "witnesses" and "confessions"?

[@sujumongge6987]

😢😢

[@Jeffrey-c2z]

So here we have the location of Treblinka. We also have many hideous stone structures that weren't there before. Can't one remember those who were prisoners there without erecting endless artifices like these ?

[@HistoryonYouTube]

The stones represent the names of the communities that were destroyed by the Nazis.

[@slimrummy4616]

They didn't burn the bodies at the beginning, because they thought they were going to win the war. And therefore didn't expect to have to hide the evidence of there crimes to sucha degree

[@nattygsbord]

That is partly the truth I think. However, I also think that the nazis was amateurs at the beginning. At first they did only do some small scale killings and used very ineffiecent methods. They killed handicapped people with morphine overdoses and poison gas stored in bottles and such. And hiding their crimes was not so difficult then. And nor did all the dead bodies in mass graves cause poisoning of the ground water. But as the nazis started to kill people by hundreds of thousands and millions.. then did things like this become a big problem. Even with excavators like at Treblinka do I think that it would in the end become a problem to find places dump all the dead bodies that did not lay too far away from the death camp. And the health of the nazi guards became threatened by the ground water that was being poisoned by thousands of dead bodies. And new methods of killing people had to be developed. Germany could not produce enough morphine for killing people when it was fighting a war and needed all morphine it could get to give german soldiers pain relief after they had been shot or had a leg blown off. And having rooms in mental hospitals rebuilt into gas chambers was ineffiecent and could not fill it with much people, and after people had died did it take much time for the gas to leave the room and the dead bodies had to be carried a long way. And once that had been done and the room had been cleaned up so the next group of unsuspecting victims could go in there... then had much time passed. The Germans realized that they needed new methods that was more effiecent. Most victims of the holocaust died in mass shootings like Babij jar. However this method wasted much ammunition that was needed in the war, and the nazi killers suffered from mental stress and alcoholism by having to do the awful job of killing innocent people day in and day out. So a new method where they did not have to see their victims in their eyes before killing them was developed. And the nazis solution was the gas chambers. By transporting people into the isolated forests in Poland could Europeans not know what happened to the jews. And the jews were unaware of that their train ride to Polands 6 death camps would be their end - so they did not pantic and desperatly tried resist the germans even if the odds were hopeless, and that made the job easier for the Germans to do their final solution. The specialized gas chambers also allowed people die in many hundreds at the same time. Pumping in gas from car engines or using insecticide powder was also much cheaper than using the old method of taking gas from glass bottles. And burning the bodies in ovens allowed to germans to hide their crimes as their were no longer any bodies and mass graves to hide. All that was left was ash - which the germans could dump into river or use as fertilizer to grow trees - like they did at Sobibor. And jewish slaves was forced to do all the awful job so that the nazis themselves were spared most of the psychologically painful work. Like carry out all the dead bodies from the gas chambers and burn the bodies. Or crushing all skeleton bones left from the cremation and make it into a powder that germans could spread out so that no one would find out about their crimes. So I think that the decision to go over to burning bodies, had mostly to do with the Germans step by step becoming better at killing people at an enormous scale through learning by doing.

[@michaelciccone2194]

Is this narrator reading from a teleprompter???

[@ErnaldtheSaxon]

Tel Aviv prompter

[@johncraig2684]

And this is why the Jewish people defend themselves today with great courage.

[@sahhaf1234]

What jews do in middle east is not defence but attack.. And they are attacking a people who had committed no wrong to them.

[@billywalker9223]

In America, they vote for the same people who killed them in Europe, and who want to disarm them. Why is that?

[@johnduffin9425]

Operation Paper Clip.

[@grandaddyoe1434]

Tom Bower's books, "Blind Eye to Murder" [post-war cover-up of widespread, generalised atrocities in Europe, done mostly by Nazis] and another, "Paperclip Conspiracy", examined selection of those guilty of war crimes but not prosecuted, being deemed useful to the USA.

[@johnduffin9425]

@@grandaddyoe1434 thank you for the heads up!

[@robinblick9375]

Hamas says this never happened.

[@ElCid48]

the terrorists of Ham arses are sociopaths who sold their soul to satan like the nazis did. the Islamic terrorists that surround Israel in Lebanon, Jordon, Gaza and Iran are the 21st century version of Hitler's nazis like the globalists in the new world order is the 21st century version of the USSR. they both want all Christians and Jews gone and are working together to do that. remove all people in this world not needed. sad. but in the end these satanists even if they do not call themselves that are losers because satan is the eternal loser.

[@ziggylycans]

botsand NPcs say this did happen.

[@robinblick9375]

@@ziggylycans In a press release concerning an academic conference on the Holocaust held in Stockholm in January 2000, a Hamas press release described the Holocaust as an 'alleged crime that never happened.'

[@ziggylycans]

@@robinblick9375 who runs the world since ww2? so then how easy it would be for lies to shown as fact. i bet you still think anne franks diary wasnt written by her father with a ball ink pen(invented after ww2) OR That all those videos you seen in school were re enactments bec it wasnt winter when the allies found the camps.anne franks sister even said so on nat television. who declared war on germany in 1933?

[@ziggylycans]

how many times where there headlines about 6 million BEFORE ww2?

[@stephanbateman5410]

I find you videos extremely interesting

[@corneliushojl7994]

Hi, I would like to know when you will make a video of the mass graves in Gaza. Thank you.

[@dolinaj1]

Thank you for another exceptional exposition and tour of another site of Nazi war crimes and crimes against humanity. Lest me forget is too poignant in this age of Israeli genocide against civilians in Gaza and Lebanon; the mass starvation of the Sudanese; Russia’s invasion of Ukraine. I could go on, but surely I have made my point.

[@Snookwisperer]

It's a great story until you ask for evidence 😉

[@HistoryonYouTube]

So what evidence do you require?

[@ffdv7458]

Quit trolling and clean your room

[@kamilj49]

It was the Germans who did it, not the Nazis

[@HistoryonYouTube]

If I have understood you correctly, you accept that this happened, but are claiming that the Nazis had nothing to do with it. I presume you are one of these neo Nazis trying to say that Hitler was OK.

[@owensomers8572]

I don't think the Poles and Soviets had diplomatic relations in 1943. The Nazis started burning bodies in late 1942, to include exhuming earlier atrocities, because they knew they were going to lose, some (like Heydrich) thought they would be able to negotiate a better settlement if there was less tangible evidence of their acts. I always assumed Heydrich was eliminated (and rightly so) because he was able to straddle the gulf between the most rabid Nazis, and pragmatic apparatchiks who were running the Reich.

[@nattygsbord]

Heydrich died in the middle of 1942 when Germany was at the height of her power and when the holocaust was in its most deadly episode 80% of the victims that died in the holocaust died in this year. So I do not believe in theory. Nor do I consider Heydrich a moderate, but rather a childish hateful antisemite that preferred the most brutal solution to the jewish question. He did however at first run into opposition. Some were upset that the war industry would suffer when Germany's best most experienced jewish workers did not get any exception from the list of people who would die - But Heydrich did not care. One nazi who wrote the Nuremberg laws and put much of his time in his life to put togheter the Nuremberg laws, found his life work torn apart in just a few minutes during the Wansee meeting. Heydrich did however not care about such details. Both jews and half-jews would be killed. Even jews who had served Germany bravely during war and distinguised themselves with medals would be killed. And so would also patriotic jews who had helped Germany with science and money in the past. Doctors, engineers, and scientists would all be killed. Even people who only partly had jewish blood would be killed on Heydrich orders. And it did not matter if someone had converted to another religion - they would be killed anyways. And it did not matter if someone was totally unreligious and saw themselves as Germans first and foremost - because to Heydrich theses were just jews anyways. Some other protests were also made. Some people advocated forced sterilization instead of mass killing, but Heydrich hated the idea and wanted to use gas chambers instead. And forcing people to move to Palestine or elsewhere was a halfassed plan that Heydrich now finally gave up on in 1942, when the jews in German occupied areas had grown by millions after all new lands conquered. And the war had made it impossible to put them all on a boat to Madagascar or Palestine. And no other country in the world wanted them. And just leaving the jews alone was not an option either from the radical nazis point of view. As the ghettos spread diseases due to poor hygiene and undernurished people that were easy victims for the spread of diseases. And the smuggling of food was also seem as a problem, because the nazis thorught that German soldiers and the German people better needed that food. And the growth of a black market was also seen as a problem by the nazi state. So I would say that Reinhard Heydrich and Adolf Eichmann were among the worst radicals that participated in the Wansee conferance. While Wilhelm Stuckart, Friedrich Wilhelm Kritzinger, and Roland Freisler looked more like moderates by contrast.

[@owensomers8572]

@@nattygsbord I agree with your sentiment, but I in no way suggested Heydrich was a moderate. Rather, I view him as an amoral, probably psychotic, opportunist. I believe his enthusiastic antisemitism was an act to draw favor to himself within the Nazi structure rather than based on any internalized hate, he was prepared to endorse or propose anything to get ahead. While at the height of its power (at least in terms of lands occupied) in mid-1942, Heydrich was a perceptive analyst, and before that time would have recognized that Germany had over-reached. In the video, at about 5 minutes in, the narrator mentions how in the winter of 1942, Heydrich had directed an Einsatzgruppen commander to begin digging up existing mass graves and burning the bodies, then proceeds to speculate on why that order was passed.

[@nattygsbord]

​@@owensomers8572 I think that the nazis had come to more over to the idea that they would move the jews to the killing site, than doing the opposite and transport germans to the place they lived and then shot them. The germans wanted more secrecy in their killings, instead of having people taking photos and eating ice cream while massacres like Babij jar took place. So transporting people by train was essential from now onwards - which had been decided at the Wansee conferance in january earlier that year. And perhaps even earlier than that as some death camps had already been put to use before that conferance. So it would make sense to burn the bodies and clean up the mess after themselves. Many experimental methods was probably also used as this stage. It was not until say 1944 that the germans had finalized and perfected their killing methods with the creation of Auschwitz-Birkenau. But before then in 1942, was Germany trying everything it seemed. Progroms and lynching, starvation, working people to death, sterilzation experiments, gas vans, mass shootings, lethal injections, gas chambers and different types of gases, etc etc. So to me it makes sense that they tried the same thing with the disposal of bodies - they tried many methods. Pyres, cremation ovens, mass graves dug by the jewish victims themselves, excavators at Treblinka, bone crushers, dumping ashes into rivers, using ashes as fertilizer to grow birches etc etc. The nazis had not yet decided which method was most effiecent for their needs so they tried out different methods to see what did work and which did not work.

[@HistoryonYouTube]

The Soviet Union broke off diplomatic ties with Poland in 1943 following the discovery of the bodies of the Poles who had been murdered by the Soviets.

[@owensomers8572]

@@HistoryonKZbin Well, let's call a spade a spade. The Soviet Union broke off diplomatic ties with the Polish "Government in Exile", in the UK.

[@chaoticdeertick7213]

So there's a vacant field with an odd monument and a "recreated" burn pit. This whole story about missing bodies that were buried, exhumed, and burned (with no evidence) is nonsensical. This whole story sounds fabricated.

[@john-oj1oj]

The guards that ran the camp actually testified about what happened it wasn’t fabricated

[@ziggylycans]

@@john-oj1oj sure they did.go read a book wrote by someone who questions the narratives of this evil world instead of blindly believing in fairy tales.

[@HistoryonYouTube]

Why don't you become the first denier liar ever to do some research? Try reading the trial testimonies. Or try going there and talking to eye witnesses? Of course, you won't, you racists are so full of irrational hate. The same hate as the Nazis had.

[@john-oj1oj]

@@ziggylycans kzbin.info/www/bejne/oKXKiaSEqL2mqKc&rco=1

[@ziggylycans]

@@HistoryonKZbin why do you hate whites so much?

[@ErnaldtheSaxon]

Absolute bollocks

[@j.b.macadam6516]

Are you one of those ignorant Holocaust deniers? I certainly hope not!

[@davidlynch9049]

What's "bollocks"? At least have the backbone to be specific, coward.

[@HistoryonYouTube]

But you cannot name one single thing in the video that is incorrect, can you?

[@ErnaldtheSaxon]

@@HistoryonKZbin Not with You tube censorship, no

[@HistoryonYouTube]

@@ErnaldtheSaxon In other words you think it is 'Absolute bollocks' but you cannot find one single thing incorrect in the video.

[@died4us590]

The holocaust is in the Bible, and other thing's related to wwll, and also the exact year that Israel became a nation. I can't give you the name of the website to show you this undeniable proof, because my comment is deleted every time. I can email you the info, and the dates and proof of many thing's that nearly no one knows can be verified by dates. The other thing's he has in his pdf library are eye opening as well, they have to do with what's going on in Israel right now. The only reason to not at least look at this information, is that people should be open to look at anything, otherwise you just bury your head in the sand. G-d bless.

[@davidlynch9049]

No. There is no mention of either.🙄

[@ChrisTian-rm7zm]

The Holocaust is not precited in the Bible. You must not take biblical passages out of their context.

[@grandaddyoe1434]

A chillingly informative book "Final Solution: The Fate of the Jews 1933-1949" David Cesarani OBE, explains a long, insidious process, mercilessly effective. Read the book - and weep.

[@djboyle5607]

I'm a Chx and i.can assure you none of what you say is true. Certainly not the pieces about the holocaust or date of AD 70 when Roman forces obliterated Jerusalem.

[@died4us590]

You would be surprised, and if my comments would stop being deleted, i could give the two word channel name, which would give you the website with the pdf library that you can go to your Bible for the proof. The last part of the name is now, and the first word of the thing is the name of the last book of the Bible.

[@SimonFlax]

Fantastic video thanks for your hard work making this thank you si gt.yarmouth Norfolk uk 🎉🎉🎉

[@HistoryonYouTube]

Thanks Simon. I did a video in Great Yarmouth too - I think I didn't publish it though!