Who Were the UDA (Ulster Defence Association)? | 5 Minute History: Episode 2

[@ecurewitz]

My brother once went to Belfast. They asked him if he was Catholic or Protestant. he said he was Jewish. They then asked if he was a Protestant Jew or a Catholic Jew

[@Legionnaire7777]

Didn't someone ask Peter Gabriel of genesis the same thing.

[@historywithhilbert]

10/10 xD

[@Niall001]

Ah Jesus. There are dinosaurs* older than that joke. *The DUP disagrees.

[@ecurewitz]

@@Niall001 not a joke. My family and I really are Jewish, and my brother did in fact travel across Europe, including Belfast

[@Niall001]

@@ecurewitz This is literally a joke so old that nobody knows how old it is. There are different variations - atheist, Jewish, Muslim etc. But if it actually happened, it is highly unlikely the person who made the statement was not aware of the joke.

[@vtec5862]

My dad has an interesting story of his encounter with the UDA. My dad ( Catholic from the Republic ) used to deliver show cars to car shows or dealerships from Dublin port to around Ireland ( North and South. ) While delivering a new Audi V8 around 1990 to Derry/Londonderry. Shortly after he crossed the border my dad encountered an armed UDA checkpoint in a narrow lane. My Dad couldn't go up. They would see hes Catholic and from the Republic if he pulled so my Dad had the option of trying to J turn the car around and drive back or floor the Audi through the checkpoint and duck to avoid any fire from the UDA. My dad decided to turn the car around and floor it, preparing to be shot. The speed of that Audi got him out of there unscathed and thankfully no shots were fired. My Dad lives to tell the story thankfully.

[@theemperor6413]

I am British and I would like to apologize for that, knowing your father could have died is something a son or daughter should not have to go through

[@vtec5862]

@@theemperor6413 No need to apologise. The vast majority of Brits I know are some of the most wonderful people I've met in my life and my father would tell you the same. Our troubled history aside Anglo-Irish relations are now some of the best they've been and hopefully for the future its only onwards and upwards.

[@theemperor6413]

@@vtec5862 I hope so too

[@theemperor6413]

@Rusty Shackleford Did they shoot him?

[@SW-yu2zz]

my dad was a lorry driver from Belfast and the IRA robbed him 3 times , one time they tied him up and wrapped duct tape round his head and left him in some warehouse where he was found just hours later thankfully unharmed, had they known his dad was a soldier and my dad was half english they probably would have shot him

[@iammaxhailme]

It's so sad hearing about the violence in Ireland in shockingly recent history. I have no familial connections to Ireland, but I went there on vacation (from the USA) and almost everybody I met both in Dublin and Belfast were very friendly and helpful. I can't imagine such a lovely group being subjected to such horrors. I wish I had had enough time to go out and see the countryside, maybe next time...

[@galoglaich3281]

Iammaxhailme Not to minimise anything but its important to remember it doesn't really occur in the republic,yes there was a spill over with the dublin and monaghan bombings ,but we have no sectarian tensions down here.

[@markmclarnon7035]

If you stayed in the Europa hotel in Belfast you have been in the most bombed hotel on the plant. Generally we are lovely people as long as you don't ask us anything about northern Ireland or Ireland or local politics.

[@Alex_goat-fn]

@@galoglaich3281 correct it only happens in the north most of the time, and also you are completely factual about politically, are you north or south?

[@galoglaich3281]

@@Alex_goat-fn South down here you would hardly know who was protestant or catholic.Catholics greatly outnumber protestants anyway but protestants in the republic are irish nationalists generally ,religious denomination is not a marker of political stance the way it is n.ireland.

[@Alex_goat-fn]

@@galoglaich3281 very true, my great grandfather was from county Leitrim, and he said the same

[@OldieBugger]

This all reminds me of the first LP record of the Stiff Little Fingers (Inflammable Material) I bought sometime around 1980... I think some of this is still living on.

[@sam6525]

Alternative ulster mate I'm from Belfast.... SLF still going 💪 strong..

[@thegael1996]

The UFF wasn't really a "cover name", it was more like an organisation with in a organisation.

[@ro2857]

yeah backed by your so called iron lady

[@zhilvahle1645]

@@ro2857 one of the few things she got right

[@ro2857]

@@zhilvahle1645 Bringing war to the occupied region of Ireland

[@ro2857]

Uff uda had no war just kill a Catholic the ira hit British personal on Irish land

[@PSH123-m5y]

@@ro2857 I don't think he's Loyalist he's called the Gael and his profile picture is the neutral red right hand of Ulster.

[@ragnarironspear1791]

You missed the UVF you've been around since WW1'but fantastic work

[@ragnarironspear1791]

@@Alex_goat-fn that is true my grandfather was one in the trenches of France . He was one of 57 men that came home out of five thousand . But the UVF reformed as a loyalist paramilitary organisation

[@dan-860]

@@ragnarironspear1791 the UVF was still a loyalist paramilitary. Only difference was the 1912 UVF didn’t target catholic’s or civilians, and even had catholic members.

[@Alex_goat-fn]

@@ragnarironspear1791 god bless your grandfather

[@bepsi6204]

@@Alex_goat-fn how were they good? what are you on about

[@Jupiter__001_]

@@bepsi6204 They fought in the trenches instead of in the streets. They served their country instead of destroying it. They gave their lives for the prosperity of the nation. This is honourable action. Of course, I wouldn't expect a Marxist to understand or even really care about any of that.

[@amandabeaty1492]

Thanks for this. I'd never heard of any of the Protestant forces until I moved to Ireland. Granted, I was 18 when the good Friday agreement was signed, so pretty young during the Troubles but all I ever remember hearing about was the IRA. It's nice to have the British equivalent profiled!

[@historywithhilbert]

I think it's certainly worth mentioning!

[@amandabeaty1492]

@@historywithhilbert Definitely!!

[@stiofanofirghil1916]

British propaganda for you!!

[@xrstufty8651]

Definitely not equivalent to the IRA

[@amandabeaty1492]

@@xrstufty8651 Sorry. I'm not from a county where there are paramilitary groups so to me the UVF, UDA would be the same thing as the RA but on the opposing side. I know it's more complicated than that tho

[@davidrousseau100]

Please make a video about Boko Haram!! The topic is one that remains unadressed on youtube and it's still very relevant today with their activities spiking up !

[@historywithhilbert]

I have one on Boko Haram recorded and ready to upload in the next few weeks ;)

[@davidrousseau100]

@@historywithhilbert Wow GREAT!!! Can't wait especially since I'm doing a dissert on them right now haha

[@historywithhilbert]

@@davidrousseau100 Oh dear - please don't be too harsh on the video haha. Boko Haram are fascinating and egregiously under-reported in the West considering their impact in West Africa. I find their ideology as fascinating as I find it terrifying that people can so firmly believe such things.

[@davidrousseau100]

@@historywithhilbert Yeah it's nuts, liek we'll hear about one murder somewhere in our city in the news but won't hear anything about 200 nigerian schoolgirls being kidnapped. We really do live in a society

[@historywithhilbert]

@@davidrousseau100 Well we did hear a lot about the 200 schoolgirls but then not really much else about the tens of thousands being killed and displaced.

[@tinhizzy8634]

As someone from Northern Ireland the UDA and IRA are very active in my county right now, great video!

[@tinhizzy8634]

@Tammy XoX No offence to you, but I am an advocate for Irish reunification, but thanks!

[@tinhizzy8634]

@Tammy XoX Amen brother.

[@historywithhilbert]

If only more people could get along as easily...

[@tinhizzy8634]

@@historywithhilbert Yeah, it's been pretty bad in Derry, there's been UDA riots almost every week now, they've even had to put barbed wire on lamposts where Irish flags are becuase people rip them off.

[@han3572]

@@tinhizzy8634 UDA riots you say? Hm. Working class Unionists (rightly if I'm honest) believe that their legitimacy is minimized by the general tide of pro-Irish, IRA sympathizing press, academics and self-flagellating educated Brits. Working class unionists were left behind educationally in a way that has really stung their communities and stunted their ability to make their case. Everybody suffered in the North. The IRA made a lot of money in the US in the 70s-80s. They were incredibly politically aware, excellent manipulators of narrative and often educated. It has been portrayed as though Irish Catholics were the only people deprived or struggling here and that their deprivation was solely due to British oppressive influence. The colourful myths of the IRA's honour, stories and martyrs, the pitiful photo-ops always seized upon. The international community views Catholics as an entirely oppressed people in the North when that is just untrue. IRA are now better armed, better financed, have more clout/reverence in their communities and now have many allies in the PSNI/ armed services. The UDA are scum but less well-supported scum. Do you support any paramilitary organisation? These groups have given psychopaths in both communities neat excuses for pure fucking evil for too many years. Remember Jean McConnville? The Scottish soldiers ouside Kelly's cellars? Miami showband? Endless bombs, shootings... I don't want to go back to it. We can't be supporting any of this no matter how hard they try to divide us 🕊 I think a politically united Ireland would do the Island and her people no favours. We are all Irish by virtue of being born in Ireland. I've seen the way the Republic is run, worked and lived there for years, spent plenty of time around southerners. They barely even want Donegal. Dublin has become a dickhead filled European capital, impossible to live in. At least Belfast retains some aspect of it's working class roots, doesn't have to pander to the new Irish oppressors of Google, Facebook, Apple. "Ireland 2040" is something I want no part in. As long as the North continues to grow in its respect for Irish cultural identity as it has done, I do not see how political unification could benefit us. Too much upheaval in an already fragile region. We need the NHS for all the PTSD anyway. I wish I was joking. 100 years of this country. Try to understand what it is before wanting to tear it down. Hard to be unbiased with so much history, so many lives lost. I pray that the peace here might deepen.

[@gre3nishsinx0Rgold4]

This 5 min history videos are quite interesting. Makes me want to see more.

[@historywithhilbert]

I can promise there's more on the way!

[@chiomaakindeleokoye4914]

All I want to see is a United Ireland and the collapse of britian, don't care how many people have to get hurt! And I'm English from London! Eire forever, down with the Racist UK state. ✊🏾🇮🇪

[@nathanhamilton3857]

@@chiomaakindeleokoye4914 all I Want to see is a Ireland taken over by the British empire

[@sb8163]

@@nathanhamilton3857 It already was, and still is a little bit

[@aidanmagill6769]

@@chiomaakindeleokoye4914 the fucking irony

[@NZAnimeManga]

Mostly Scots* not England and Scotland. People keep overlooking this (I think from a place of wanting to always blame the English) - it was mostly Scottish Presbyterian settlers - who became Ulster Scots.

[@Dannydantimpat]

@NZAnimeManga They were sent by the Westminster ( England) ruling elite . They , the Ulster Scotts are merely pawns who can’t see how much they have been used by Westminster. down through the centuries.

[@raymondhaskin9449]

Northern Ireland folk have both Scottish and English ancestry. Which is why they have a natural affinity with Britain. And in fairness, there isn’t really a difference between English and Scottish people, since the people who lived in Lowland Scotland were ethnically and linguistically identical to the people in England - which is why the Scots language sounds so similar to English. Because Scots developed directly from Northumbrian old English. Which was spoken from Humber to Edinburgh.

[@fyrdman2185]

@@Dannydantimpat muh westminster shut up

[@WheelieMacBin]

@@Dannydantimpat - King James I/VI began the plantations. He was King of Scotland and became King of England too, after the death of Queen Elizabeth I in 1603. The plantations were very much a Scottish affair with mostly Presbyterian Scots relocating to Ireland.

[@Dannydantimpat]

@@fyrdman2185 No I won’t.

[@HistoryOfRevolutions]

"If everyone fought for their own convictions there would be no war" - Leo Tolstoy

[@NathanDudani]

@Ollie 7281 It sure seems like it if all your ideas are ahistoric products, rather than critiques of historical conflicts

[@Seth9809]

@Ollie 7281 Most people aren't fighting for their convictions.

[@theaverageitaliandon998]

Yes War and peace great book

[@mumflrpumble9107]

Just mass violence I suppose

[@properbinmen]

I have made a peaceful and legitimate request for cheddar cheese and pineapple on a stick!

[@harry-thepug76]

Classic harry enfield!

[@turnip5359]

Missus bunfield!

[@i_smoke_ghosts]

yum!

[@Crackdalf]

Its always a good day when you upload

[@historywithhilbert]

Thanks my dude!

[@michealmacgearailt8232]

History with Hilbert making up for decades of negligence in British and Irish school history curricula. Thank you!

[@historywithhilbert]

My pleasure - even if this is only the beginning in exploring a very complex period and a very tricky set of issues!

[@SAVAGE-oe3fg]

Please do a video on the boer rebbelions

[@historywithhilbert]

I have one from a long time ago if you're interested: kzbin.info/www/bejne/p3vao41mp9F0l5Y And some more on their conflict with the Zulus: kzbin.info/www/bejne/qnSbnJewgpKMkJo

[@dmcd3895]

I lived in Derry for two years, trust me, the paramilitaries are still active.

[@mathsdebater231]

HON THE RA

[@meepulp]

@Glasgow Kingpin 😂

[@meepulp]

@Glasgow Kingpin lmao I used a single emoji am not raging 😂

[@meepulp]

@Glasgow Kingpin mate i used a single emoji stop spouting shit about energy

[@meepulp]

@Glasgow Kingpin what are you even on about?

[@mkaykaykayy]

these videos are great, subscribed.

[@lols8844]

My great grandmother best friend was blown up by someone in the ira after the woman came out of jail so moved directly across the street

[@padraigpearse1551]

Im glad your bringing attention to the loyalist paramilitaries as well as they arent really known outside of ireland even though they caused just as much harm as the nationalist side

[@karlmtinsley8297]

Liar!

[@GhostGamer123Ghost]

Nice profile pic

[@sionsmedia8249]

Although they were just a response to the nationalists.

[@padraigpearse1551]

@@sionsmedia8249 the loyalists were actually the first to attack people. They attacked peaceful protestors on burntollet bridge and elsewhere (I think it was a dam or resevoir) they set off a bomb which was blamed on the ira which wasnt even doing that or really anything at the time in the North. They also killed the first british soldier.

[@raymondhaskin9449]

Hardly, comparable. Republicans were responsible for over 60% of the killings during the troubles. Loyalists only 30%. That means republicans caused twice as much harm.

[@daviddickey9182]

Can’t wait for you to do a Charlemagne and the Saxons wars vid!

[@peterbrown1012]

I remember Graham Norton telling the story of when he was child visiting relative's in Northern Ireland, because their car had Republic number plates they had to park the car in a Catholic area and walk to the families house in the protestant area, as they were walking he would ask his father things but was told to be quiet as people would recognise his southern accent.

[@LamLawIndy]

Any videos around on how the IRA managed to get financial support & armaments from US civilians? I'm interested in learning a bit more on how such a thing occurred.

[@lanahanbrian0]

Look up NORAID.

[@historywithhilbert]

Yep so I mention this towards the end of my video on William III and how he in many ways caused the Troubles: kzbin.info/www/bejne/pJO7iKmDmNmtsNU

[@sb8163]

@@historywithhilbert thank you for the link to this video 🙏 just watched it, so much info in one video! ❤

[@kiwi_comanche]

Gerry Adams could tell you all you'd ever want to know about that.

[@WheelieMacBin]

There were also collections for the IRA in London pubs. I well remember being in one when the bucket was passed around. That would have been in the late 1970's.

[@cheddarcheeseisgood8030]

I'm waiting on a Shropshire video hilbert. I'm will always wait

[@Skinhead_Stan]

I'd love to see you do a video on their 'sister' organisation the UVF, personally I've always found them the more interesting of the two, largely owing to their secrecy, small size, and their technical capabilities when compared with the UDA. Regards, Irish history student one week away from graduation.

[@historywithhilbert]

I'll be looking into the UVF in a future video :)

[@johndevlin4318]

The loyalists were all considered drug dealers and criminals no match to the ira and would of been liquidated where it not for the British army and intelligence helping them.

[@derekferguson2328]

@@johndevlin4318 You are a dreamer pal. It was Nationalist politicians who called for the army to be brought in to save their ass not the loyalists. You obviously know very little about what really happened in Northern Ireland.

[@johndevlin4318]

@@derekferguson2328 there was no provisionals when all that happened. Oh dear. Looks like you don’t know what happened. And not really a dreamer when the army after operations report praised the IRA stating they couldn’t defeat them and called loyalists drug dealers and criminals and insignificant. All this easy searchable online. Derek I suggest you actually read up on the troubles. Not what your dad told you. The PUL community started the troubles.

[@derekferguson2328]

@@johndevlin4318 The Provisionals ? Oh you mean the cowards that surrendered to the British government when they eventually realised that they couldn't kill all the Protestants ? Just one question pal. Did the Provos drive the Brits out ?

[@calvi-se6ry]

Great video 1.44 just one quick correction the sunningdale agreement was power sharing with the SDLP who weren’t Republicans as you said but were more moderate Constitutional Nationalists.

[@noodlyappendage6729]

How can they not be Republicans? They want to join the Republic of Ireland don’t they?

[@calvi-se6ry]

@@noodlyappendage6729 Republicanism in Ireland is usually applied to those groups who are more radical in there thinking and typically resort to an armed campaigm. Most people in Ireland wouldn’t even consider Sinn Féin (the Provisonal IRA’s political wing) to be a republican party anymore since they have resorted to more constitutional methods of politics.

[@noodlyappendage6729]

@@calvi-se6ry I still consider them Republican. I can’t see how they can be anything other.

[@NakaLumi]

You should do a UVF one

[@JimmyRagZ]

Been learning a lot about "the other side" as you might say lately and this video was quite interesting, thanks

[@micahistory]

it's interesting that this was essentially the only real conflict in western europe since world war ii

[@dirckthedork-knight1201]

No that title belongs to the Bosnian War We also avoided another one a few weeks back

[@dmctztv3842]

@@dirckthedork-knight1201 bosnia is not western europe

[@Niall001]

@John Bold And ETA in Spain.

[@cambs0181]

Greece.

[@WheelieMacBin]

Not so. The war in Donbass is very hot right now.

[@schizoidboy]

It seems to be a habit for some paramilitary groups to degenerate into criminal gangs. I heard this is what happened with the Mafia in Sicily, the started as militias and then became gangs loyal to leader. In Colombia there are a lot of paramilitary groups that are sponsored by drug dealing which brings in a huge income, so if peace ever were to break out they'd just become Cartels.

[@ro2857]

They said that about the IRA in the early 1900s and said it about the provos now I'd say the INLA are criminal gangs taken money and drugs in off the dealers and selling the drugs to different dealers but they got good military target's in the 80s early 90s now it's all money with the INLA

[@ro2857]

And James Connolly be turning in his grave 4 what the INLA are doing nothing for a free Ireland

[@jonathanramos8414]

This happened in Mexico too sadly

[@PelagiustheGrey]

Great vid as always brother. I Always learn a little bit more!

[@historywithhilbert]

Cheers man!

[@MidgeCat]

Here comes the Americans larping as IRA members

[@jamesburke1168]

Many such cases

[@rootin222]

Here comes the grits and Protestants larping as UDA/UVF/Red Hand commandos

[@jamesburke1168]

@@rootin222 Seppo detected

[@potatomahonman5008]

My mam once told me that an American cousin came to visit in the 1980s and was walking through Dublin airport in a pro-IRA shirt

[@MidgeCat]

@Rusty Shackleford We don't need your whole life story pal

[@TheAnthraxBiology]

As a history student studying in Cork I am very pleasantly surprised to see an English person do a good video on this! A few hiccups and maybe some important omissions (historic ties to the DUP and leader Arlene Foster meeting UDA leadership but not other Stormont parties in the wake of riots) but overall it was really good.

[@WolfGamingProductions]

(Reposting can't be arsed to type this out again) With the current state of N.Irelad being stuck & tugged at by two larger entities(UK & EU), the checks between N.Irelad & Britan, along with tensions rising & people being provoked (such as the large funeral for the former ira member that went on in Belfast... I get it funeral whatever but doing it on such a scale right now there is no way it won't piss people off) I'd wager a fair amount of violence will pick up before it returns to the lower levels of violence... For some reason many I've spoken to that live in Britan think the violence had stopped for all these years after the GFA was signed... Ha hardly the violence has never stopped more so it's been bubbling under the surface with small incidents every now & then.. The divide in my area is quite visible as well one side flying high with the flags of the Ulster banner, St.George cross, Union Jack & the various paramilitary groups.. With just across in one smaller area flying the tri colour of the R.O.I... Just as a quick example of that divide.. Living in an area mainly under UVF control honestly hasn't been shite for me tho then again I've known a few members & I fade into the background & do not go out of my way to piss them off... Unlike those who still from time to time "disappear" if you've angered the wrong people.. N.Ireland is more likely to be burnt to ashes than to unify with R.O.I in my opinion.. Not that I like the idea of unifying, I also don't like the idea of my homeland being burnt to ashes.. I do wish people would leave N.Ireland alone rather than try to use her & end up stoking more problems from our not so distant past.

[@noodlyappendage6729]

NI is becoming a better place to live in. It won’t ever join the RoI. 1. The majority support the UK and the pound and do not want to join the RoI and the Euro 2. For all of the big talk from Republicans on both sides of the border they don’t have a plan that they can agree on. 3. NI is a net recipient in the UK and will continue to be for a while. The RoI can’t afford NI and this is well known. 4. NI in the future will be booming and it will draw people from the RoI, rest of UK and the rest of the world. When that happens NI will become a net contributor to the UK. However it STILL won’t join the RoI because then excuse not to join the RoI would be “we’ve done well out of the UK. We’re booming!”. 5. The UK will outlast the EU. Why join the RoI who’s only real perk is being a member of a union which will break up anyway? The problems the EU have are far greater then the UK’s.

[@fritoss3437]

You should talk about the O.A.S is the same but for the pied noir

[@historywithhilbert]

Ooo that would be an interesting one to do!

[@fritoss3437]

@@historywithhilbert Lets go

[@gonzajfk1650]

the OAS were just right wing extremist, ex-french colonial military fanaticals who opposed the independence of l'Algèrie. Why is so important to you? you are always asking about this issue. Go and watch a documenatry named "De Gaulle et l'OAS"

[@alen7480]

Can't forget the Milltown Cemetery attack and subsequent running down of another funeral 3 days later of the victims of the Milltown Cemetery attack. Very brutal attacks.

[@caseytesney959]

Also the corporal killings during the funeral of ira Kevin Brady just days after he was killed in the Milltown cemetery attack

[@owowowowowowowowwowowo]

Let the fire storm begin 😎

[@micahistory]

first ten minute history and now five minute history

[@brandonmckay1912]

The uvf where the 36th ulster division in ww1

[@kiwi_comanche]

My Great Grandfather was with the 12th Batt, 27th Regiment Inniskilling Fusiliers, 36th Ulster Division.

[@brandonmckay1912]

Yeah they played a large roll in ww1

[@kiwi_comanche]

@@brandonmckay1912 They were the only unit to achieve their objectives on the first day of the battle, only to have to fall back to their own lines due to lack of supply and support.

[@voidneptune4554]

Oh did you do the RUF

[@mumflrpumble9107]

Hope our two countries never go through something like the Troubles again.

[@PSH123-m5y]

Even from a neutral point of view, the will for a united Ireland is still growing in the North. And when that happens, who knows when, many Loyalists will be unhappy about it, and I could imagine that they could potentially become violent and the "Real IRA" will jump to the fight very hastily in retaliation, but of course they're not the IRA they're a bunch of gangsters who in reality are more focused on fighting than a united Ireland, so the dick heads from both sides could potentially spark it up again. Just this time there'd be no real moral righteousness, just some salty Loyalists angry that they were voted against and some meat head gangsters focused on violence. Theoretically.

[@duncanwilson2392]

Could you do a video about the loyalist feud?

[@davedavids57]

Your stuff is normally amazing but there are a few issues and mistakes here. Firstly you can't really talk about the UDA/UFF without talking about the UVF/RHC. The rivalry between the two groups, the UDA's links to the British far right (google mad dog) and the fact that unlike the UVF who had a fairly well established political wing the PUP (under David Ervine and Guthy Spence) the UDA wasn't particularly interested in politics with their political wing barely functioning. This at times left them pretty directionless. You also didn't mention the Combined Loyalist Military Command which was set up in the early 90s which was an alliance between the UDA, UVF, RHC which gave the movement direction, helped them actually become effective (the only years where loyalists out killed the IRA were the early 90s) in targeting Republicans. Without this pressure on Republicans and without the guidance of the Combined Command it is doubtful the ceasefire would have happened in 1994 leading to the good Friday agreement. Also when you said they had a big shipment of weapons from Lebanon you were a bit wrong. The guns were captured by the Israelis from the PLO in Lebanon and bought through the help of South Africa agents with money from a bank robbery. The guns actually were jointly shared between the UVF, UDA and a group called Ulster Resistance, The UVF and UDA guns were actually intercepted and it was the Ulster Resistance guns that got through. The UDA and UVF were then given some guns by them when they disbanded.

[@camdollamore6453]

Can anyone tell me whether during the troubles the UDA and British army were allies? Did the British army ever end up fighting the UDA? Or did they keep completely separate and just shared information? Also I would like to know what the UDA and UFF thought of the British army.

[@ripoutyourintestines5099]

This is what I want to know lmao

[@britard8499]

They weren't allies. There was collusion between aspects of the British Army and the UDA/UVF, but they were never officially allies. Loyalist paramilitaries were responsible for a number of British military deaths, and vice versa.

[@onkouth]

The Ulster Defence Regiment (UDR) was part of the British Army, their members were often either colluding with the Loyalist Paramilitary groups or directly involved in the murder of Catholic civilians, that is why the IRA so frequently murdered them!

[@icemanire5467]

They colluded. The members of the notorious UDR regiment of the British Army and British intelligence were involved in the Dublin/Monaghan bombings and the Miami Showband massacre.

[@francisconnellan350]

Some of the settlers were highlanders who were roman catholics.

[@noodlyappendage6729]

Many of them were. Many were even Gaelic speakers. Many moved to Ireland for opportunities after the Earls took flight.

[@captainohcaptain9588]

Have you done anything on the kingsmill massacre yet

[@johnbest4513]

'Who were the UDA' They were Loyalist sons of Ulster.

[@johnbest4513]

@GENOCIDER At least they were nice looking.

[@rafaelkesic]

@@johnbest4513 not really lol. the Provos had cool camo jackets, UDA was a bunch of football hooligans in tracksuits.

[@fixyourfuckingantispamchec8103]

​@@rafaelkesic British camo lol, the British always had better drip

[@enochlee3601]

I've always wondered what the name of or if there was a Unionist equivalent to the IRA and looks like I found my answer

[@triplef533]

They weren’t the IRA’s equivalent. The IRA had no equivalent. It was a high functioning and well structured terror organisation whereas the UDA and UVF were little more than sectarian street gangs that were ran by drug dealers and pedophiles

[@enochlee3601]

Yeah I know I did watch his entire 5 minute history series

[@fixyourfuckingantispamchec8103]

There were quite alot of unionist equivalents compared to the few Irish ones

[@martychisnall]

Absolute Chads that’s who (joking, whist I support the North remaining in the UK they could have handled it better) Speaking of Chads, my uncle was point blank shot by the IRA but survived. (British Army)

[@dmcd3895]

My uncle was shot by the British army lol.

[@dmcd3895]

@Doxx Box Returns they couldn’t give a flying fuck about civilians.

[@captaintaiyaki4879]

Only in this part of the world can a civil war be called "The Troubles" Rip to those who lost their lives and thoughts go out to those whose lives were forever changed.

[@Eyyoh755]

For a German like me it sounds weird that one people don't want to live in one country as a united nation. Unity is the most important issue here in the fatherland.

[@mrsuperger5429]

Ireland was warned in 1922 that a new Irish State would become a Roman Catholic theocracy, and the Vatican would dominate every aspect of that society. That is exactly what happened.

[@irishrepublican756]

Yes it is a very strange and unfortunate fact! Maybe someday Ireland will be United 🇮🇪

[@noname20022]

Die Protestanten die in Nordirland leben sind die Nachfahren von Englischen und Schottischen Immigranten. Sie sehen sich als Britisch und nicht als Irisch

[@thecreepnextdoor7560]

@@mrsuperger5429 that’s a lie. I don’t even think most Irish people go to church anymore

[@voidneptune4554]

You should do who is the LRA

[@loyalist6176]

Excuse me but if the UDA is a terrorist group then why does it have the iconic 'red right hand' on its flag as part of the UK? The UK would have banned it as a result if they thought so, but it isn't, the red right hand stands for loyalty to Northern Ireland and to the union.

[@ripoutyourintestines5099]

As someone from the mainland UK, I back the UDA 100%

[@loyalist6176]

@@ripoutyourintestines5099 at this rate northern Ireland needs to UDA again

[@ripoutyourintestines5099]

@@loyalist6176 honestly lad if they reform I know for a fact you'll have a bunch of the EDL coming over to help out at this rate Ireland will be a warzone soon

[@triplef533]

The red right hand was a symbol before the UDA just cos they adopted it doesn’t mean the UK would ban it you clueless hun

[@triplef533]

@@ripoutyourintestines5099 Good. They can all get massacred by the IRA

[@cmcfadyen6714]

I lived as a Catholic on the Shankhill road (the main protestant/UDA sympathetic road for 6 months.

[@eyeballseesaws]

Why were you living there

[@cmcfadyen6714]

@@eyeballseesaws I was 2, my mum was still in college In Northern Ireland

[@micahistory]

very interesting, i never even heard of these guys

[@PSH123-m5y]

That's because Britain is more powerful and it was easier for them and their news to focus on the IRA and not the Loyalist Paramilitary groups. I don't mean to sound resentful but it's true.

[@Humancompassion1234]

Very interesting

[@NihiluseiUltoniae]

great lads

[@professorminstrels6460]

Murderers

[@sionsmedia8249]

@@professorminstrels6460 Protectors, they didn't want to conqure any more territory, just keep what we already have. In wars even those trying to defend do kill people.

[@professorminstrels6460]

@@sionsmedia8249 no not protectors just terrorist thugs.

[@professorminstrels6460]

@CelticSaxon for who?

[@catpainblackudder01]

My Dad did two tours of Northern Ireland in the mid 70's, I patrolled the same streets in the late 80's, strange thinking about it now... ADU...

[@steveg2251]

Snap. Early 90's.

[@aidanmagill6769]

Who *are*. They're very much still around and a continued menace. Particularly in South East Antrim. This summer is going to be fucking mental. Could be as bad as Drumcree.

[@Normalguy1690]

I think your forgetting about the UVF which the IRA was made to counter act. Also don’t get UDA mixed with UDR.

[@Baldytb]

that’s actually quite inaccurate considering the IRA can be traced back to the IRB. The UVF (when formed) consisted of catholic members such as members of the gaelic league and also the ancient order of hibernian. The UVF did not target innocent civilians from the other side so it’s untrue to say that the IRA was a counter act to them. The UVF in my opinion became a counter the IRA in actuality. the UVF started themselves to target civilians around 1966 (i think)

[@irishrepublican756]

@@Baldytb are you seriously saying the UVF didn’t target innocent civilians? You are extremely uneducated! They killed hundreds of innocent men, women and children during the troubles!

[@PSH123-m5y]

@@Baldytb The UVF certainly targeted civilians, I know many who were threatened and even shot at on account of their religion.

[@fraclarke6523]

Remember , during the troubles , couple of children, ( puzzled seeing a Coloured soldier in uniform ) at an Army checkpoint , approached him , and asked “ Are you a fenian ,or a prod “ to which he replied , “ For F**k sake , I’ve enough trouble being black , without worrying about that load of crap !! 😁

[@adrianmcardle85]

Why no video on the UVF

[@oscarosullivan4513]

*Were they still exist

[@Niall001]

For those who might like some more context: kzbin.info/www/bejne/nKa8qZagq5Zgr68

[@saor4340]

The UDA still exist so your title is wrong

[@2k9r23]

damn right mate

[@username65585]

To get the time down it seems like you are cutting clips a bit too soon before you finish speaking a sentence.

[@napoleonibonaparte7198]

I miss the old days when peasants wouldn’t care about who their lord was...

[@alfiejob6546]

What about succession wars?

[@historywithhilbert]

Not a very republican thing of you to say tut tut... then again, suppose you are an emperor :P

[@vonkaiser6817]

@@historywithhilbert not to mention an absolute lad.

[@niallkelly2990]

You say were like they aren't still a thing up here

[@polishherowitoldpilecki5521]

Tensions heating up in Northern Ireland again.

[@ClearPathBeats]

Good. The colonisers could finally give the six counties back

[@brandonmckay1912]

Ulster says no

[@eddietuite732]

@@brandonmckay1912 The rest of Ireland says I don't give a flying fuck

[@nicholasjeremyson]

@@eddietuite732 Good they don't need Ulster

[@ClearPathBeats]

@Albert Fels shut up prod

[@slkjvlkfsvnlsdfhgdght5447]

why is there a star of david on the UFF flag?

[@thegael1996]

It's a six pointed star that representing the six counties Antrim, Armagh, Tyrone, Down, Derry and Fermanagh.

[@holyravioli5795]

Well, this should be an interesting comment section

[@Temploid-yx6ow]

Did the uda wear berets?

[@christallon184]

Its nice to see someone talk about some of the unionist groups that the crown has backed. Its not just the ira. But i have to say the north didnt choose to remain part of Britain that was decided buy Churchill and considering the catholics wernt aloud leave certain areas without being arrested at that time ment they couldn't vote even if they wanted

[@comradekenobi6908]

Yet the Unionist denied this lol

[@aksb2482]

So is the UDA different to the UVF?

[@alfiejob6546]

Yes, they're both separate organisations.

[@exthetic6755]

yes. the uda and uvf have had several fueds

[@hhhieronymusbotch]

The R.U.F.F.?...Sounds like they're 'rough' ;) Puns are fun, guns or no guns

[@Niall001]

Recent relevant documentary : kzbin.info/www/bejne/Y4jbdYejqMipepI

[@gwine9087]

The reality is that both sides were a bunch of psychopaths that didn't mind killing indiscriminately.

[@bobpobcf9723]

Yep

[@6.5ftkristapsporzingis71]

I don’t get why people can’t understand this

[@oliversherman2414]

I visited Northern Ireland in 2022 and had a great time there. The people of Ulster are very friendly and pro-British

[@Irishman1916]

Not every one lad

[@oliversherman2414]

@@Irishman1916 I wonder why someone with your username would say something like that hmm 🤔

[@Irishman1916]

​​@@oliversherman2414 ok frist of all, Irish people use the term "lad" as well, and what I mean is that there are communities in NI that want a new and united ireland aka Catholics or republicans, like West Derry, West armagh City, and many more.

[@oliversherman2414]

@@Irishman1916 Ok, but at the same time there's also many unionists who don't want to leave the UK

[@Irishman1916]

​​@@oliversherman2414true, but am not saying there are not any in NI

[@southwest2915]

Why does ‘UVF’ just randomly pop up?

[@alfiejob6546]

Perhaps Hilbert made a video about the UVF and a frame accidentally got put in. Or maybe, he originally mentioned them in this video but decided to take it out.

[@southwest2915]

@@alfiejob6546 that’s more than likely because the weird relationship the two organisations had. Hope you have a good day

[@alfiejob6546]

@@southwest2915 Thank you, hope you have a good day as well.

[@NikoHL]

Good effort for 5 mins..

[@skeptic781]

My grandpa was in the UDA 🇬🇧

[@Loci666]

Based

[@chopper-unofficial4935]

Same 🇬🇧

[@firedude3337]

Forgive my ignorance....was there ever a group that wanted independence from the British, but weren't a Socialist or Communist group? It seems the IRA were firmly left wing Socialist and split group of commies...the UDA wanted to remain with Brits. There would have had to been a group that wanted to be reunited with Ireland, but didn't want to be socialist/commies.

[@PSH123-m5y]

No there wasn't, the IRA were Irish Republican (Very different from American Republican), which is socialist. IRA communists did not exist. It is also important to note how different Communism and socialism is.

[@icemanire5467]

Yes, the original IRA, you had a small contingent that socialists but they never made up a significant number. The Provisional IRA in 1969 endorsed socialist ideology not communist. The INLA and Saor Éire were the communist equivalent but much smaller.

[@ddraig1509]

Honestly, comments should just be turned off for the videos on the Troubles/Ulster-Ireland Conflicts. Do yourself a favour and don't look at them

[@jamesburke1168]

The geopolitics of the Island of Ireland sounds like it should be located in the balkans

[@mikeoxsmal8022]

Ulster is in ireland

[@jamesburke1168]

@@mikeoxsmal8022 Northern Ireland

[@mikeoxsmal8022]

@@jamesburke1168 ya

[@padraigpearse1551]

@@jamesburke1168 ulster is 9 counties. 3 in the republic of ireland 6 in Northern Ireland. ALL 9 and therefore the province are in Ireland

[@ALWALEED1911]

I'm sorry if this is offensive or anything, I don't know the history or the politics of the matter but not united Irland never made sense to me.

[@billynwa7418]

Ireland has only ever been united while under British rule.

[@eoghanmc5411]

@@billynwa7418 what do you mean

[@Loci666]

@@eoghanmc5411 it’s quite simple the only time ireland was ever United was when Britain owned it

[@harrybuller8985]

Oh bring back bring back bring back...

[@nicholasjeremyson]

The Black and Tans

[@olek5903]

THE IRB

[@jamesflynn6827]

It's nice to hear about this but I never got how did the old IRA and UDA become involved with crime? I know remainders of both still exist, but how did they get involved with drug dealing and how do/did they justify it? Are they today just criminal gangs or do they still hold political ambitions? And how big and powerful are they compared to their predecessors?

[@padraigpearse1551]

After they had no reason to fight they had to make money somehow so they turned to selling drugs, illegal cigarettes and forcibly taking protection money and They can't justify it thats the thing. We all know its happening but the police force and politicians dont do anything. The politicians are pretty much in the pockets of the gangs. I must admit as well that it is normally the loyalist gangs that do it. The ira certainly do those sort of things as well but generally speaking its the loyalists who are doing that sort of stuff. Where im from anyway the ira are always the ones shooting out dealers kneecaps and the loyalists are always the ones supplying them

[@markmclarnon7035]

There gangs that use a twisted view of romanticised violence to push some agenda but it's questionable what that is. And who you ask.

[@peterfox5897]

Old ira was not involved in drugs. The PIRA executed drug dealers. Although they did extort money out of some criminals. Given the need for funds to keep the war effort going, and the fact they were a illegal organisation, the ira were funded via bank robberys and diesel and cigarette smuggling. Although a huge part of funding came from donations in ireland and ex pats around the world

[@DirtySanchez943]

I heard IRA was ruthless toward dealers and hooligans and it maintained order in their blocks...

[@peterfox5897]

@@DirtySanchez943 you were usually warned and told to leave the country. It would escalate from there. Shot in both knees and arms. Or if you really didn't get the hint and continued to sell something like heroin you would be in real danger of being killed.

[@a.m.jsSTATS]

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[@FiannaUladh]

Can you do who were the UVF

[@historywithhilbert]

Got one on the UVF coming at some point in the future :)

[@FiannaUladh]

@@historywithhilbert cant wait to see it

[@leebowden738]

It's still called Ulster it's just known as Northern Ireland so the thick English can work out where it is .

[@cambs0181]

We're not thick, we just don't care about it enough to find out where it is!

[@barnsleyman32]

or that all of northern ireland is ulster but not all of ulster is northern ireland?

[@fyrdman2185]

whoa what's with the attitude pal

[@steveg2251]

Not that easy the northernmost part of Ireland is in the south.

[@meepulp]

@@cambs0181 exactly 😂 it's hilarious when they think Westminster cares about them

[@ro2857]

what's the difference between what Russia ate doing thr Brits do tje same thing and nothing said about it

[@Niall001]

Good video but you skimped on the co-membership with British security services, UK government awareness of this, Arms & intelligence sharing etc.

[@evelynmccabe3855]

Interesting.

[@NEWBkiller646]

The lack of self awareness for a Unionist organisation to refer to themselves as freedom fighters is astounding

[@noodlyappendage6729]

Why? It no more outstanding then a Republican paramilitary doing the same. Republicans want freedom from the UK. Unionists want freedom from the RoI.

[@NEWBkiller646]

@@noodlyappendage6729 Because Unionists are based exclusively within NI which is already part of the UK...

[@tozen4442]

Freedom from Republican terrorism duh

[@anvilbrunner.2013]

Call it what you will. Border Reiver communities have a staunchly tribal mindset. Fanatically fierce & fearlessly practical. A breed apart.

[@galoglaich3281]

Thurston Radford You could say the same for the gaelic clans that were indigenous to ulster and you still see it south armagh.

[@anvilbrunner.2013]

@@galoglaich3281 Well were all cousins since the days of Kenneth MacAlpin. Each & all mixed with Anglo Norman ancestry. I hear there's a few indigenous native Irish still hanging around the Spanish arch in Galway.

[@galoglaich3281]

@@anvilbrunner.2013 Most of the normans became gaelicised anyway. In the north it was only the east that came under norman control.There was of course huge norman admixture ,but its mainly concentrated around the south east whereas the west and northwest is still mostly native.The Irish are roughly 70% native and 30% norman and norse according to new research.

[@anvilbrunner.2013]

@@galoglaich3281 Ancestry DNA has been very useful. It gave me 13% Irish. 26% of that 13% was of Swiss Palatine origins. The remaining part being West North Western. I was given 45% Doric Scot, 40% English Scottish borders & 2% Swede. Admixed with a Burgundian Basque GrtGrt Granny.

[@raymondhaskin9449]

True. The Ulster Scots always stand up for themselves. That’s why I admire them. When you learn their history it makes sense.

[@callumbush1]

Ireland for the British 🇬🇧

[@RackHasAttacked]

@Joseph Walsh thry were never communist?

[@jf723]

Must be the only paramilitary with a Naval Unit called SEA UDA. Well that's what is says on the walls in Newtownards lol

[@steveg2251]

Aye but Ards also had a gable wall that said Ulter says no

[@tozen4442]

It's South East Antrim lol not the ocean🌊

[@brettalizer3271]

well here's another comment section that's gonna be a total shit show *opens popcorn*

[@addictedtocraic]

Who ARE the UDA?

[@markmclarnon7035]

The plantation of Ulster is misleading but hey even Carson called them the plantation counties that been debunked by Irish historians like Russell Rees. Historians think the high protest count was because people came to place like Belfast and Derry during the industrial revolution that also explains why most southern uniosts existed is places like cork and Dublin. (Sorry for the long comment just a different perspective)

[@steveg2251]

Plantation also was tried before the Stuarts. It's was a Tudor thing too, there's an exhibition in Derry's Guildhall.

[@wolfgangpagel6989]

It is worth to know that Ulster, the original Northern Ireland, consists of 9 counties. Only 6 remain under British control.

[@steveg2251]

The loyalists of the time only wanted a 4 county solution and others pushed for 9 so 6 was a compromise. A lot of Donegal and Monaghan unionists were peeved.

[@noodlyappendage6729]

It’s worth knowing that Ireland isn’t. Really Ireland. Just 26 counties of Ireland. 6 counties remain in the UK 🇬🇧 if you want to be ridiculous I can also be equally ridiculous.

[@wolfgangpagel6989]

@@noodlyappendage6729 Why is that ridiculous? You told literally the same information the opposite way. And many people do not know that there is one Third of Northern Ireland which is not part of Great Britain today. So, whats your point?

[@noodlyappendage6729]

@@wolfgangpagel6989 Northern Ireland isn’t a part of Great Britain. It never has been. Northern Ireland is a part of the UK. 6 of the 9 counties of Ulster are in the UK. Republicans constantly bring that up when Unionists use the word Ulster. Their point being that Unionists don’t have the right to call Northern Ireland Ulster. It’s old and it’s boring. If Republicans want to be that silly Unionists can be equally silly in reverse. ✌️🇬🇧

[@wolfgangpagel6989]

@@noodlyappendage6729 I think that the name for UK is in nearly every country Great Britain. The mentioned fact is not silly by itself. Boring maybe for people who constantly hear that. Old only as old as the separation happened. Now if you would be silly you could refer to the fact that the United Kingdom has been including Ireland and not a mere 6 counties of it. Be happy that there is little violence at the moment. I understood that the Irish feel that they got invaded, and the Unionists feel that they are this invaders. There are other countries with similar problems, let's see what is a good solution for everybody.