Gog Magog War Study - All Parts Together - Chris White

[@billybazilly]

Sir, I just want you to know I appreciate everything you do. Been watching your videos all the way back to the ancient aliens and zeitgeist stuff

[@rigavitch]

Loved that stuff. He was a much needed erudite voice. I hope he moonlights again in that world as it's going a bit mental!

[@abel9061]

1:36:42: The Septuagint is a really good source for the old testament, it is actually the bible the Apostles quote (about 90% of the time)

[@dianehelena]

I first came across Chris White many years when I read his work on which end-time city would best be suited to identify Mystery Babylon. The subject of Gog and Magog has interested me for over 40 years as I also place it the end of the millennium. What a surprise to now find this gem of a video. I'm just pausing to say that many years ago my son asked me how the antichrist could pull off such a deceptions when we know in advance what he will do. A thought popped into my head at the time that maybe, just maybe, he would use bible prophecy itself to pull off his own counterfeits ("Yea, hath God said?"). In the video, Chris just suggested the possibility that he might use Daniel 11 as part of that deception with respect to the timing of the war. I have imagined so many scenarios over the years but that one had never occurred to me. Back to the video...

[@coryryder9070]

i followed him since like before 2010 watching knowwheretorun and always push that for people to watch chris does awsome job

[@coryryder9070]

video by him new age and its relashinship to the antichris also the debunking videos a ++

[@richarddayton5890]

Thanks Chris! Love you man!

[@FKYT]

Thank you for the upload.

[@BillyBob-lt5nr]

I think Chuck Missler actually changed his position to place Gog-Magog at the end of the Millennium in the latter half of his time in ministry for similar reasons. Can someone confirm?

[@BillyBob-lt5nr]

Ah! Found it, Missler kinda punts, he says there's two Gog and Magog events one right before the last week, and a sort of demonic reprise at the end of the Millennium, because "Gog is a demonic title" using Amos 7:1 references Gog as "King of the Locusts" (Greek LXX).

[@FellowshipBibleChapel]

He never changed his position. Clearly, there are two

[@truthtransistorradio6716]

I think Ezekiel 37-39 is parallel to Revelation 19-21. You have the dry bones becoming a great army in Revelation 19. You have the city with no bars or gates being the millennium in Revelation 20, followed by Gog/Magog.

[@Jueyes-vg2gb]

Ezekiel was fulfilled in 48 when Gog and Magog invaded and killed and stole and raped etc it matches the prophecy to a tee.

[@felixwalne3494]

It seems to me that Ezekiel 38 & 39 has at least two prophetic fulfilments. One before the Millennium and one after. I believe it to be a prophetic pattern. In my estimations, primarily because of the parallels between Armageddon, the first fulfilment begins toward the latter first half of Daniels 70th week and culminates at the end of Daniels 70th week with the Armageddon campaign. However, this only fits if Israel is dwelling safely during that time as part of Antichrist’s attempt to deceive them into believing his is the Messiah. I also suggest that the final battle, after the Millennium, recorded by John in Revelation, is a pesher interpretation on Ezekiel 38 & 39. In other words, Armageddon is a prophetic picture, foreshadow or type or the final battle in Revelation 20

[@007MegaRoll]

kashimir has same gematria as rosh 228

[@zara-ly2927]

At 3:01:29 in your video, you cover the word used “center” from your ESV. For Ezekiel 5:5 it indicates Jerusalem, while Ezekiel 38:12 it indicates “in the midst” of the land. Seems to be referring back to Jerusalem and as the context reflects. In the KJB God actually defines what is repeated in Ezekiel 38:12, in Ezekiel 5:5 after He sates its Jerusalem, and that she is in the midst of the nations. You really need to study from the KJB, for there is no confusion there.

[@redlightdeath]

The KJV only crowd has a poor understanding of the Bible, how it was translated, and its history. Go look up what the Dead Sea scrolls say in comparison to the KJV. KJV is useful in places, but I wouldn’t say it’s free of confusion. Also, it fails to properly convey Hebrew and Greek grammatical ideas in numerous places.

[@zara-ly2927]

3_ 01488 m not KJV only. I am Holy Bible only!! I have researched the history of my Bible extensively with prayer. God brought me into all of it. Anything in English afterward had been proven to be a modern version perversion. Dead Sea scrolls are not inspired scriptures. Psalm 12, read it and believe it! Gods perfect words are LIVING and NOT dead. Ponder this! Septuagint is a modern invention and evidenced it took from rather than gave - just like the book of Enoch, and many others. My God had preserved and provided his perfect words for every generation. There is no errors, and nothing new to contradict long believed snd known truths. You are the one in error, regardless of your sad attempts to poison the well.

[@zara-ly2927]

3_ 01488 I don’t speak or understand Hebrew nor Greek. Gods made it so I don’t need to know them. God is the creator of all languages and also has the power and ability to provide it in my native and intimate language - which is evidenced He did just that. We are told in the scriptures that we must understand in our own language - it was the very reason for the gift of tongues/languages (Acts 2). Furthermore, men who come to me saying the Greek or Hebrew says this (in contradiction to my own language scriptures of over 400 years, a red flag comes up for me that such is attempting to pull the wool over my eyes under disguise of such, always with intent to deceive with a false teaching. It’s called spiritual and informed discernment. Another thing to understand is that modern Hebrew is not the Biblical Hebrew and modern Greek is not the biblical Greek- both became DEAD languages. You want to be decieved and you will be because you have not believed God and denied His power and providence concerning it to which He holds ABOVE all else, for the false teachings and deceptions of men who desire to make merchandise of the word of God at your expense. Your choice. I would rather enter the battle with a sharp two edged sword than a dull butter knife and a breastplate that is brittle with many holes.

[@zara-ly2927]

3_ 01488 I can guarantee you, that I can run you for your money with my understanding of the scriptures that God has given me understanding in from my faith in Gods words, against your clear and obvious rejection of it. Try me!!

[@rigavitch]

@@zara-ly2927 You need a good and Godly dose of Michael Heiser!

[@小石植木屋な磨麟麻林]

Dang erudite scholarship!

[@rigavitch]

These are interesting. Thanks for your time and energy! I am going to stick with The Orthodox Church and the apostles/ancient father's interpretation. I think they know best...

[@truthtransistorradio6716]

Traditions of men. I am going with the bible.

[@rigavitch]

YUP! The apostles of Jesus Christ! ☦🙏🏼👌🏻☦@@truthtransistorradio6716

[@patrickedgington5827]

Again, Chris, I hope you will reconsider where you are going with the seven kings. As you know; may know, I am convinced its Herod. Starting with his father who knew and was possibly intimate with the family of Antiochus IV. Herod has been associated with the dragon waiting to devour the child at its birth and more. But primarily you are the one that speaks of being consistent with your hermeneutic. Let’s look at the 7th and 8th King we know something about. You’re the one that said Mystery Babylon is Jerusalem. He is not there attacking that city why would he be he is going to take up a position of being their anointed king. So in what way is he like say Egypt or Rome? Or any of the other kingdoms you are sighting in your current position? Jerusalem is going to have an elevated stasis when he rules from her. Herod did the same for that city in his day. All of that line did elevate the statis of Jerusalem in a worldly fashion, and to that extent I say they are the same. That line of kings is physically related to one another and very possibly to Davids line as well as Antiochus and defiantly to Esau. If my own hermeneutic misses the mark please point out where. All I see in your view is a note concerning the great sea. An inconsistent effort to force fit this piece and that into the text. Chris you are better than this. Likely the best biblical researcher and expositor I have ever come across but brother as happy as I am to tell you the truth when it rings of praise, I am equally convicted to tell you when it does not. Please look into Herod’s family and the close ties they had to Antiochus, As well as the number that ruled in Jerusalem. The nature of the man, in light of the antichrist, the effect they had on the city, the relationship they had or would have had with Yashua, and finally if they could trace Davids line in the descendants. I have tried; I have limited experience and recourses, but I was able to locate even considering that, ties in all these areas.

[@JasperStoneChroniclesIIAngiboo]

Any time scripture says, "four corners of the earth", it is referencing the Israelites (God's people) who were scattered to the "four corners of the earth"... not a compass... 😏

[@redlightdeath]

No, it’s not. It’s talking about the four directions to the ends of the earth. It’s even in the symbolism of YHWH’s throne, the four creatures each have four faces and each face corresponds to a mythical representation of the spirit of that direction in near East folklore. Further, it’s a grammatical device used to describe the phrase “far and wide” in Hebrew and koine Greek.

[@JasperStoneChroniclesIIAngiboo]

@3_ 01488 The definition of "folklore" is fictional tales about people or animals... Both "myths" and "folklore" were originally circulated orally... Absolutely NOTHING about the bible is mythical and all of it is WRITTEN, not word of mouth passed along as some silly folklore, so I don't take anything you say seriously.

[@redlightdeath]

@@JasperStoneChroniclesIIAngiboo you’re misunderstanding what I’m saying. Yes, the Bible is true. But you are extremely uneducated as to its context or the culture it came from. Israel was surrounded by other cultures and religions and borrowed imagery from those religions. It doesn’t mean that those other religions are true. Furthermore, your assertion that “four counters” always refers to Israel is, in relation to this study, idiotic. The enemies of Israel aren’t going to come from “the scattered people of Israel around the world.” Go read some commentaries by Michael Heiser, and learn about the Bible, its history, and its context in general. It will draw you closer to Jesus and also keep you from saying idiotic things about God’s word on the internet.

[@JasperStoneChroniclesIIAngiboo]

@@redlightdeath just because we disagree does not mean I'm extremely uneducated, you clown. I believe you haven't got a clue yourself, buddy. My KZbin channel shows my stance and its hard to refute. Stop using the words mythical and folklore if you want people to take you seriously.

[@redlightdeath]

@@JasperStoneChroniclesIIAngiboo go read the peer reviewed papers on what mythical and folklore means. It’s not a derogatory term. It’s a term used to identify deities in literature from other religions. If you knew anything about “science” or “refutation,” or anything about Biblical history and context at all, you’d know that. But I’m guessing you’re 12 and don’t understand a whole lot anyway. additionally, I noticed you didn’t even bother to address the fact that your notion of “four corners” always referring to the diaspora is idiotic in the context of the Antichrist’s enemies. I’m sorry being wrong and feeling like an imbecile makes you so emotional. Maybe someday when you learn Hebrew and Greek, and figure out the Bible talks about a great many things at different times, you’ll understand God’s word better.

[@zara-ly2927]

I agree with your study/examination on this prophecy. You’ve done an excellent job, covering it all in great detail. Thank you! That being said, I really wish you had not referenced the Septuagint, or the book of Enoch, for both of those sources have serious issues of being not great extra biblical sources. In Fact the Septuagint has been shown to be fabricated. The King James translators wrote of it, saying they had their doubts of its veracity. Furthermore, if you just stayed in the KJB for the study, you would not have had to bring up the whole issue of “Rosh” equaling “chief”, among some other things. Also, Gods name is Jehovah, not Yahweh. Yahweh is the name of an ancient storm god. The Ancient Hebrew comes from the Masoretic texts, NOT the Septuagint. Therefore God indeed gave the vowel points, as Moses was given and told to write it down and the whole of the Hebrew language relies upon them. . There is a great examination of the tetrammaton by John Gill (he was a Jehovah witness, but I’m not) and even by a Harvard professor of Lanuages John Hinton, In Awe of Gods word by Gail Riplinger. Please check these things out. I know it’s a bit off topic, but I see this often in your presentations and wonder why you don’t know this.

[@redlightdeath]

Furthermore, you know Peter and Jude both reference the book of Enoch… right?

[@annmarie2964]

@@redlightdeath It doesn't say they reference the "book" of Enoch, it only says they referenced Enoch, which we could easily surmise were passed down oral teachings, which were not even written down.

[@redlightdeath]

@@annmarie2964 it is widely known that “the book of Enoch” was a pseudepigraphal writing - meaning someone wrote it and then attributed it to Enoch. It’s true that at one time the Israelites and the surrounding cultures used oral tradition. But they did learn to write, and they wrote down their ideas. I assure you they had writing at the time of Christ, which is why you find phrases in the Bible that match the WRITING in the book of Enoch almost word for word. What was even the point of your statement?

[@zara-ly2927]

@budekins542 the English letter “J” is equivalent to the Hebrew letter “Y”. Gods name in English is spelled “Jehovah”